DOUG, CINDY, EXCUSE ME, MR. IAN.
[1. Call to Order ]
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>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. CLEARLY NO ONE WANTS US TO GET OUT OF HERE TONIGHT. SO WE WILL STAY LATE.
GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING FOR THE CITY OF PARKLAND ON METAL-- WEDNESDAY MAY 20TH 2026 AT 6:00 P.M. TO ORDER.
PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE. >> EVERYONE: I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> ROLL CALL. >> COMMISSIONER'S ALIMONY-- COMMISSIONER SALOMONE. COMMISSIONER ISROW.
[4. Approval of Minutes ]
MAYOR WALKER? COMMISSIONER BRIER.AND COMMISSIONER CANTERBURY? >> APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
>> MOTION APPROVED. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY VISE MAYOR BRIER, AND A SECOND BY MURPHY TRAN-- MURPHY SALOMONE.
[5. Comments from the Public on Non-Agenda Items ]
ALL IN FAVOR. >> EVERYONE: AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ONANA AGENDA ITEM.
>> WE HAVE ONE SIDE SPEAKER, ELLIOTT ROBERT.
>> MY NAME IS ELLIOT ROTHBERG. I JUST WANTED TO UPDATE TOPIC THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AT THIS COMMISSION.
I KNOW AT LEAST TWICE, BUT I BELIEVE THREE TIMES BEFORE, AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE LAND THAT TOLL BROTHERS IS DEVELOPING, AND IN THE ZONE THAT IS EARMARKED TO BE THE VILLAGES.
AND THROUGH THE DISCUSSIONS OF PRIOR PURCHASE, AFTER PURCHASE, AND FOLLOWING THAT, THERE WAS ALWAYS DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING SOME CANAL DREDGED TO JOIN THE TWO WATERWAYS THAT SURROUND THAT SO THERE IS A WATER BARRIER AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF THAT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT TO PROVIDE SECURITY AND SAFETY FOR THE COMMUNITY. THE CURRENT ARRANGEMENT WAS AT A MINIMUM TO HAVE A BERM THAT WAS GOING TO BE THERE, BUT IT WOULD STILL BE LAND THAT WOULD BE CONNECTED.
SO WHAT-- WHEN IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE PAST, EVERYONE SEEMED TO AGREE WAS A GREAT IDEA.
THE CITY TOLD THE DEVELOPERS AND OFFERED THEIR HELP TO DO WHAT THEY COULD. BUT IT WAS ALWAYS DECIDED THAT IT WAS NOT THE RIGHT TIME. AND IT WAS SORT OF KICKED DOWN THE ROAD FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.
WELL NOW ALL OF THAT LAND IS GRADED.
THE ROADS ARE IN AND PAVED. THERE ARE HOUSES BEING BUILT.
SO I THINK THAT IT IS TIME FOR SOMETHING TO BE DONE.
SO I AM HERE FOR THE COMMISSION. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY TOLL BROTHERS REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE, BUT I KNOW IT'S AN ISSUE THAT HAS TO BE SETTLED BETWEEN THEM IN THE CITY.
AS FAR AS WHOSE LAND IS GOING TO BE USED, IF IT'S A SPLIT OF THE LAND, OR WHAT THE CITY OWNS, AND WHAT TOLL BROTHERS OWNS, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING COME TO FRUITION ON THIS, SO WE KNOW THAT-- AND QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK THAT IT CAN BE KICKED DOWN THE ROAD ANYMORE. BECAUSE THEY ARE SELLING THESE LOTS. SO PEOPLE COME AND BUY, THEY THINK THAT WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE THERE-- IT NEEDS TO BE THERE BEFORE PEOPLE MAKE A FINANCIAL COMMITMENT TO PURCHASE THOSE
THANK YOU. >> AND I WELCOME ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE.
>> I THINK WE ARE GOOD. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC ON NOT AGENDA ITEMS? WE WILL GO TO THE COMMISSION. I WILL START WITH-- ARE YOU STILL WRITING COMMENTS? OR ARE YOU WRITING SOMETHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER MURPHY SALOMONE.
YOU CAN GO FIRST. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THIS COULD BE A LATE MEETING, BUT IF I SAY THAT, MAYBE IT WILL NOT BE. I WILL JUST SAY THAT IT HAS BEEN A GREAT MONTH. I KNOW LOTS OF GRADUATIONS, WE KNOW THAT MARJORIE DOUGLAS' GRADUATION IS COMING UP ON JUNE 1ST. VERY EXCITING FOR ALL THE GRADUATES. AND IT IS A NICE TIME.
SPRANG, COST BOB SUMMER. SO HOPEFULLY EVERYONE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL THE AMAZING THINGS THAT NOT ONLY PARKLAND
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HAS TO OFFER, BUT THIS BEAUTIFUL STATE THAT WE LIVE IN.AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING SOME IMPORTANT DECISIONS TONIGHT AND GOING FORWARD. AND I WOULD SAY EVERYONE ENJOY YOUR SUMMER, AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE, MAYOR.
>> RATE, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ISROW.
THANK YOU. I'M ALSO GOING TO KEEP IT SHORT.
WE HAVE A LARGE AUDIENCE AND I THINK WE HAVE A LONG NIGHT.
SUFFICE TO SAY, ASIDE FROM SUMMER COMING UP, I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO CITY STAFF FOR THE STATE OF THE CITY.
>> WHOEVER CAME OUT AND WHO COULD MAKE IT.
THANK YOU. BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS, WHILE IT SEEMS KIND OF EFFORTLESS, YOU GET TO SEE THE FINAL PRODUCT AND HOW IT ALL WORKS, BUT A LOT OF TIME A LOT OF EFFORT GOES INTO IT. AND IT'S NOT JUST THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT GOES INTO PRESENTING THE STATE OF THE CITY, AT THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT GOES IN TO THE WORK THAT BECOMES A PRODUCT OF WHAT WERE PRESENTING AS THE STATE OF THE CITY.
I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE LOST ON OUR COMMUNITY.
THAT WE SIT HERE AND MAKE THESE DECISIONS, THEY COME BEFORE US AND WE HAVE TO DELIBERATE ON WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY, ET CETERA. WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE REALITY, THE DECISIONS WE MAKE ARE JUST DECISIONS.
THOSE DECISIONS REQUIRE ACTION. AND THAT ACTION REQUIRES A STAFF AND 18. AND OUR TEAM IS UNMATCHED.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WON'T ACKNOWLEDGE, THEY WON'T EVER SEE IT, THEY WON'T KNOW HALF THE TEAM EXISTS IN PARKLAND.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO TELL YOU HOW GREAT THEY ARE. THESE ARE YOUR STAFF AS WELL.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE. HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE A NICE NIGHT TONIGHT AND GET THROUGH EXACTLY WHAT WE DO AS A CITY.
WORKER ISSUES ON DATA AND FACT AND GET TO WHAT IS BEST FOR EVERYONE. THANK YOU.
>> WELL, SAID. COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I ALSO WANT TO GIVE THANKS TO THE CITY STAFF, PARTICULARLY THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT FOR MAKING US LOOK SO GOOD IN THAT VIDEO.
>> WHO SAID YOU LOOK GOOD? >> I DIDN'T SAY ME, I SAID WE.
I WANT TO ALSO GIVE A HEARTFELT CONGRATULATIONS TO NST'S VARSITY BASEBALL TEAM FOR THEIR SIXTH CONSECUTIVE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP.
AND PEOPLE THROW THE WORD "UNPRECEDENTED" AROUND A LOT LATELY. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY UNPRECEDENTED. THE LAST TEAM TO DO THAT-- THIS IS TERRITORY THAT NO ONE HAS BEEN BEFORE.
AND I WANT TO GIVE SOME SPECIAL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO ONE PARTICULAR PLAYER, GEO, A GRADUATING SENIOR NOW.
HE DID THINGS AS A HIGH SCHOOL BALLPLAYER THAT HAVE REALLY NOT BEEN SEEN BEFORE IN THE STATE. AND REALLY IN THE COUNTRY.
IT'S INCREDIBLE SEEING THAT WORK.
WITH A 28-1 RECORD FOR HIS ENTIRE HIGH SCHOOL CAREER, WITH SOMETHING LIKE A .65 ERA THE ENTIRE TIME.
THAT'S INSANE. LESS THAN A RUN FOR ALL NINE INNINGS THAT HE PITCHED. SOMETHING LIKE 253 STRIKEOUTS.
I LOOKED IT UP. HE IS COMMITTED TO MY ALMA MATER, UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI. WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE HIM PLAY THERE, BUT WE WILL NEVER SEE HIM IN EIGHT CANES IN UNIFORM, BECAUSE THE DRAFT IN JULY WILL BE AN INTERESTING TIME FOR HIM AND HIS FAMILY.
AND I CONGRATULATE HIM GOING FORWARD.
-- IN A CANES UNIFORM. [APPLAUSE]
>> EPI- MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, I WILL KEEP IT SHORT. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE BOB, WHO IS IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT. BOB HAS BEEN A LONG TIME SERVING COMMISSIONER. THE CITY COMMISSIONER WAS ALSO AWARDED OR NAMED TO THE BROWARD COUNTY SR. HALL OF FAME.
WHICH SHOWS HOW OLD HE IS, BUT IT'S ALSO RECOGNIZING.
BUT THE AREA AGENCY ON AGING AND BROWARD COUNTY SELECTED TEN PEOPLE WHO WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET THAT.
[APPLAUSE] >> THERE WILL BE A BREAKFAST HONORING HIM NEXT FRIDAY. BUT THANK YOU TO THE AREA AGENCY ON AGING FOR THE RECOGNITION. AND I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE WE HAVE MEMORIAL DAY COMING UP. MEMORIAL DAY IS A SILENT DAY WHERE WE THANK AND HONOR THOSE WHO MAKE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE FOR OUR FREEDOMS. THOSE WHO SERVED IN THE ARMED FORCES AND LOST THEIR LIVES.
THEIR FAMILIES. I KNOW WE WILL RECOGNIZE THE GOLD STAR PARENTS, BUT IF-- I WOULD ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS TO COME OUT MONDAY AT 5:30 TO THE P RACK TO HONOR THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED IN OUR ARMED FORCES AND HAVE LAID THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR OUR FREEDOMS AND TO RECOGNIZE THEM.
IT'S A GREAT FAMILY EVENT, IT'S GREAT FOR THE KIDS, TO GET SOME PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT IT MEANS FOR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY.
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SO 5:30 AT THE P RACK. AND THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.>> THANK YOU, VISE MAYOR. I TO WANT TO CONGRATULATE EVERYONE WHO WILL BE GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL OR COLLEGE.
I HAVE A HIGH SCHOOLER WHO WILL BE GRADUATING AT MSD, AND A COLLEGE GRADUATE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF DELAWARE.
AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAYBE MOVING UP, NOT GRADUATING FROM KINDERGARTEN TO FIRST-GRADE OR EIGHTH GRADE TO HIGH SCHOOL, BEST OF LUCK TO EVERYONE AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR HARD WORK. MEMORIAL DAY, WE DO PUT A NICE EVENT ON THERE, WITH SOME GREAT SPEAKERS WE HAVE.
SO IT'S A NICE EVENT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CAN ATTEND, TO ATTEND, AND TO REITERATE COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN, ON THE MSD BASEBALL, ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC.
SO WE WILL SEE WHERE THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR THEM.
AND I WILL WISH A BELATED BIRTHDAY TO MY WIFE, IN CASE SHE IS WATCHING. HER BIRTHDAY WAS LAST WEEKEND.
SO I DO NOT WANT TO GET THAT. I WILL GET IN TROUBLE.
[6. Proclamations and Recognitions ]
>> NO CHANCE SHE IS WATCHING. >> THAT IS VERY TRUE.
[LAUGHTER] >> WITH THAT, LET'S GO DOWN FOR OUR PROCLAMATIONS AND OUR RECOGNITIONS.
>> ALL RIGHT. THE MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS.
WE HAVE-- WHO DO WE HAVE HERE TO ACCEPT THAT? TODD TOLD ME, LISA? YES.
GREAT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
YES. MENTAL ILLNESS AFFECTS THOUGHTS, FEELINGS, BEHAVIORS AND GENERAL INTERACTION WITH OTHERS, AND THE STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH MENTAL ILLNESS MUST BE ADDRESSED SO NO ONE FEEL SHAME OR DISGRACED IN SEEKING HELP AND TREATMENT.
THE BREATH OF MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AFFECTING CHILDREN AND ADULTS IS PROFOUND. ONE IN FIVE ADULTS WILL ENCOUNTER MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGE IN ANY GIVEN YEAR.
HALF OF ALL MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS BEGAN AT AGE 14, AND 75% BY 24 YEARS OLD. PROMPT PREVENTION LEADS TO MORE FAVORABLE OUTCOMES. THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE ON MENTAL ILLNESS, MISSION IS TO ENHANCE AWARENESS AND PROVIDE PROGRAMS IN BROWARD COUNTY THAT SUPPORTS A WORLD-CLASS SYSTEM FOR THE TREATMENT AND RECOVERY OF INDIVIDUALS FACING MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES. NAMI BROWARD DELIVERS SUPPORT, EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY TO DELIVER BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND COPING STRATEGIES AND POSITIVE OUTCOMES FOR PEOPLE AND THEIR FAMILIES NAVIGATING THE COMPLEXITIES OF MENTAL HEALTH.
NAMI COMMENDS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, DIVERSION PROGRAMS, AND NORM-- NOBLE-- MOBILE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAMS THAT EFFECTIVELY GET INVOLVED IN THE SYSTEM AND ENHANCE SAFETY.
NAMI BROWARD COUNTY DOES NAME THE MONTH OF MAY AS MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH, TO PROMOTE MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS WITH THOSE LIVING WITH MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES TO SEEK SUPPORT AND TO BE UPLIFTED BY YOUR MESSAGE, "YOU ARE NOT ALONE." BE IT RESOLVED THAT I, MAYOR RICH WALKER, AND THE CITY OF PARKLAND CITY COMMISSION, HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY AS MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND FLORIDA. [APPLAUSE]
>> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CITY OF PARKLAND FOR RECOGNIZING MAY AS MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH AND THE PROCLAMATION.
THANK YOU MAYOR WALKER, VISE MAYOR BRIER, CITY COMMISSIONER ISROW, AND THE OTHER CITY COMMISSIONERS.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF PARKLAND FOR 20 PLUS YEARS, I'VE LIVED IN MEADOW RUN. I RAISE MY FAMILY HERE.
AND MENTAL HEALTH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
I SERVE ON OUR BOARD AND I AM THE PRESIDENT.
AND THE MESSAGE TODAY IS IF YOU NEED HELP, OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW NEEDS HELP, IF THEY ARE IN CRISIS, DIAL 9-8-8 AT-- THAT NATIONAL LINE HAS HELPED REDUCE TEENAGE SUICIDE BY 1400 OVER THE LAST YEAR. SO IN CRISIS DIAL 9-8-8.
IF YOUR FAMILY MEMBER-- YOU ARE A FAMILY MEMBER OR LOVED ONE AND YOU NEED SUPPORT, WE OFFER FREE PROGRAMS AND SUPPORT GROUPS.
AND WE HAVE MEN'S GROUPS, WOMEN'S GROUPS.
TO. , WE ARE IN BROWARD SCHOOL SYSTEMS. EDUCATION SPEAKERS.
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GO TO THE WEBSITE AND LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW WE CAN HELP-- YOU CAN HELP EVERYONE. WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE EVERYONE BEHIND, NO ONE IS ALONE, AND THERE SHOULD BE NO STIGMATIZED TO MENTAL HEALTH. THANK YOU.>> WE HAVE QUITE A FEW SCHOLARSHIPS THAT WE ARE GIVING OUT TODAY. IF YOU JUST WANT TO HOLD THOSE? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD SCHOLARSHIP RECIPIENTS. SO COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD, IF YOU GUYS ARE HERE, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP HERE? [APPLAUSE] HERE YOU GO, BILL.
BILL IS THE CHAIR OF OUR COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD.
SO IT IS USUALLY TRADITION THAT I LET BILL DO ALL THE SPEAKING.
>> THANK YOU. I AM HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUES.
THEY ARE TWO MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY COUNCIL.
I HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO BE A PART OF IT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
BEFORE THAT IT WAS CALLED THE EDUCATION ADVISORY BOARD.
BUT WE HAVE THE-- I GUESS YOU COULD SAY THE DESIRE TO DO THIS EVERY YEAR BECAUSE OF WHAT WE GET TO DO WITH THESE KIDS.
WE HAVE A BUNCH OF AMAZING STUDENTS.
WE GIVE OUT AWARDS AND SCHOLARSHIPS EVERY YEAR.
AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT THE AMOUNT OF SCHOLARSHIPS THAT WE ARE GIVING OUT, WE ARE MORE THIS YEAR BECAUSE THANKS TO DOUG AND CINDY FOR THE PARKLAND CHAMBER, THEY GOT SOME MORE BUSINESSES INVOLVED. IF ANY OF YOU KNOW OF ANY BUSINESSES THAT WOULD LOVE TO GET INVOLVED AND THANKS-- NEXT YEAR, GET IN TOUCH WITH THE MAYOR, OR WITH MYSELF.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW FAR THIS MONEY GOES FOR THESE KIDS.
WE HAD A LOT OF KIDS THAT WERE A PART OF PUTTING IN APPLICATIONS THIS YEAR. I CANNOT TELL YOU THE AMOUNT, BUT OUT OF THAT WE HAD A LOT OF INTERVIEWS, AND A LOT OF THOSE-- OUT OF THOSE INTERVIEWS CAME THESE EIGHT KIDS.
WHEN I TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE DESERVING, YOU HAVE NO IDEA.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE-- THE FIRST 1Q-- OKAY.
WE WILL GO WITH YOUR LIST? OKAY.
IT'S AN ORDER. THE FIRST RECIPIENT OF THE 2500-DOLLAR C.A.B. SCHOLARSHIP IS LL LEE.
DO YOU WANT TO COME UP? ELLA LEE ATTENDS MSG AND PLANS TO STUDY DIAL-- BIODIVERSITY AT VANDERBILT.
THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THE STUDENTS.
>> THE NEXT RECIPIENT OF THE 2500 C.A.B. SILVER MILLER LAW SCHOLARSHIP. IS SILVER MILLER HERE? NOT HERE? OKAY.
IT'S SARAH MORALES. IS SARAH HERE? THERE SHE IS. SARAH ATTENDS PINECREST AND PLANS TO STUDY POLITICAL SCIENCE AND GOVERNMENT AT GEORGETOWN.
>> CONGRATULATIONS. [APPLAUSE]
>> OKAY. NEXT, FOR THE $2500 SCHOLARSHIP, PROVIDED BY MY COMPANY, THE KENNEDY LEGAL TEAM, AND THE DESERVING RECIPIENT OF THAT IS ETHAN KLEIN.
IS ETHAN KLEIN HERE? ETHAN ATTENDS MSD AND IS HEADING TO THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA BUSINESS STUDIES ADMINISTRATION.
[APPLAUSE] >> ARE ANY OF HIS TEACHERS HERE? MISS WEBSTER, CAN YOU COME UP HERE, PLEASE? I HAPPEN TO SEE ONE OF THE MSD PROFESSORS HERE.
AND I FIGURED SHE SHOULD BE IN THIS PICTURE WITH ETHAN.
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>> VERY GOOD. CONGRATULATIONS.
NEXT, WITH THE EATON FAMILY FOUNDATION, FROM DOUG.
ANOTHER 2500-DOLLAR RECIPIENT, IT WILL BE AWARDED TO ALEXANDER FRIEDMAN. ALEXANDER IS AN MSD STUDENT WHO WILL STUDY DATA SCIENCE AT UF. CONGRATULATIONS.
>> NEXT IS THE FAMILY FOUNDATION, THEY WERE PROVIDED A $2500 SCHOLARSHIP, AWARDED TO... AS ANYONE FROM THAT FAMILY HERE? SAMARA GOES FROM MSD TO U OF F TO STUDY MICROBIOLOGY AND SELL SCIENCE. [APPLAUSE]
AVA. SHE ATTENDS AMERICA-- AMERICAN HERITAGE AND WILL STUDY BIOLOGY BUT ALSO PLAYS SOCCER AT VASSAR COLLEGE. CONGRATULATIONS.
SHE IS THE RECIPIENT OF THE $2500 SCHOLARSHIP FROM THE STEINBERG FAMILY SCHOLARSHIP. [APPLAUSE]
>> ANYBODY FROM THE STEINBERG FAMILY SCHOLARSHIP.
>> HE WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING? >> THAT'S OKAY.
>> YOU SHARE? [LAUGHTER] -- YOU SURE? [LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE] >> IS ANYBODY FROM THE BIN DR. HERE? NO? OKAY. WELL, THE BIN DR. HAS PROVIDED A $2500 SCHOLARSHIP TO MSD STUDENT, BRIAN LISTA PAD.
HE PLANS ON STUDYING FINANCE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
>> A JOB, BRIAN. >> CONGRATULATIONS.
-- GOOD JOB, BRIAN. >> CONGRATULATIONS.
>> GOOD JOB, BRIAN. [APPLAUSE]
>> IS MEHRAN SHANK HERE? >> NO? I THINK IT'S DESERVING TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THE PARK-- PARKLAND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PROVIDED A $1000 SCHOLARSHIP TO MEHRAN SHANK. SHE PLANS TO STUDY BIOLOGY.
THANK YOU. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU.
OUR YOUTH AMBASSADORS. ARE THEY HERE? YES? OH, THERE THEY ARE.
[APPLAUSE] >> OKAY. SO THE YOUTH AMBASSADOR PROGRAM IS A PROGRAM THAT THE COMMISSION-- COMMISSIONER MAYER SPEARHEADED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
AND IN PARKLAND WE HAVE STUDENTS COME IN AND THEY GET AWARDED A SCHOLARSHIP, WHICH I BELIEVE I IS-- $2500 SCHOLARSHIP, THEY GET SERVICE HOURS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THEY GET TO SPEND TIME IN EACH DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY, SO THEY GET TO LEARN A BIT HOW LOCAL GOVERNMENT WORKS. SO WE HAVE EIGHT IN.
THERE IS AIDAN. [APPLAUSE] RAINY? GEO?
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AND DANIEL IS NOT HERE. OH, THERE YOU ARE.>> OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO START OUR REGULAR MEETINGS. NO ONE HAS TO STAY, YOU ARE WELCOME, BUT WE WILL BE STARTING OUR REGULAR MEETING.
IT'S OKAY, WE WILL NOT GET OFFENDED.
THIS IS WHEN PEOPLE USUALLY LEAVE.
>> ALL RIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
[7. Approval of the Agenda ]
ALL RIGHT. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECONDED.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MURPHY SOLEMN-- MURPHY SALOMONE. AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER
[8. Consent Agenda ]
>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? THIS PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THE CONSENTGENDA.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.
>> ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING THAT THERE IS NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER ISROW AND A SECOND BY VISE MAYOR BRIER.
ROLL CALL? >> COMMISSIONER ISROW.
[9. Regular Agenda ]
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SALOMONE.
THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ANTHONY, REGULAR AGENDA.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. ITEM NINE A IS RESOLUTION 2025 DASH ZERO FOUR, PARKLAND TRUST... A BOARD APPLICATION TO LOCATE AND INSTALL A TRASH COMPACTOR WITHIN THE SHOPS OF PARKLAND GENERALLY LOCATED WEST OF STATE SEVEN.
AND NORTH OF THE BOULEVARD, AS DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT A, CASE NUMBER 25 DASH 13 DASH SPA AND 2025 DASH 17 DOW C.A.B.
DIVIDING FOR CONFLICT-- CONFLICTS, SEPARABILITY AND AN
>> IT EVEN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AND MAYOR.
I WILL PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHT'S HAPPENED SINCE OUR LAST MEETING AND TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT TO GET THEIR PRESENTATION. SINCE OUR LAST MEETING WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND THEY HAVE GONE OUT ABOUT ONCE A WEEK TO TAKE PICTURES AND KEEP US UPDATED ON THE STATUS OF THE CONDITION AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT REAR ALLEY AND SERVICE DRIVE. SO THEY SHARED PICTURES WITH US THAT WE SHARED WITH YOU. PORTRAYING THOSE PICTURES.
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THOSE PICTURES WERE TAKEN AROUND MIDDAY, AND AFTERNOON CAPTURING EACH SITE VISIT. SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THE FULL COMPILAION OF LUNCH AND DINNER HAD NOT COME THROUGH IN TERMS OF THE SERVICE HOURS.AND THE TRASH HAS-- IS GENERATED LARGELY BY LUNCH AND DINNER.
SO WHAT YOU SEE IS THE MIDDAY PICTURES PERMIT EARLIER FROM LUNCHTIME, LIKE I SAID. SINCE THEN THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH THE MAINTENANCE TEAM AND THE LANDLORD. AND THE PROPERTY OWNER, TO WORK WITH THE TENANTS. THEY HAVE GONE AHEAD AND FIXED THE ENCLOSURE HINGE ON THE NORTH ENCLOSURE, THAT IS REMAINING.
THAT ITEM HAS BEEN ADDRESSED THAT WAS RAISED DURING PNC.
THE APPLICANT DID COMPLETE PRESSURE WASHING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH, AND THAT'S ON A MONTHLY CYCLE.
SO IT SHOULD BE COMING UP IN A COUPLE WEEKS AGAIN.
THEY ALSO HAD SEVERAL VISITS WITH THE TENANTS.
THEY HAD MEETINGS BETWEEN THE MAINTENANCE TEAM AND THE TENANTS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO CAME DOWN TO THE PROPERTY AND MET WITH THE TENANTS, AND THEY HAD A FOLLOW-UP EMAIL AFTER WE SHARED A CODE ENFORCEMENT PICTURE WITH THEM TO AGAIN KIND OF REITERATE THE IMPORTANCE OF MAINTAINING THE REAR ALLEY.
SO THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN MAKING DILIGENT STRENGTH-- STRIDES TO STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF MAINTAINING THAT REAR ALLEY.
THEY HAVE ALSO DISCUSSED THE POTENTIAL OF IMPOSING FINDS IN THE FUTURE. AT THIS POINT THOSE FINDS HAVE NOT BEEN STARTED TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE PRICE OF THE SERVICE AND OVERAGE CHARGES.
RIGHT NOW, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS WISHING TO IMPLEMENT AT THIS TIME.
BUT WOULD CONSIDER POTENTIALLY IF AND WHEN THE COMPACTOR IS APPROVED AND THOSE RATES COME BACK DOWN.
AND JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT WITH THE COMPACTOR, THE NUMBER OF SERVICE DAYS WOULD GO FROM ONCE A DAY PICK UP FOR THE TRASH DOWN TO ONCE A WEEK. AND LAST POINT IS THAT KEEPING IN MIND THAT-- THAT NORTH ENCLOSURE WOULD REMAIN, THE SOUTH ENCLOSURE GOES AWAY AND IS REPLACED WITH THE NEW COMPACTOR ENCLOSURE. WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT TO THE APPLICANT TO SHARE AN UPDATE FROM THEIR SIDE AS WELL.
>> YOU CAN USE THIS. >> HELLO, GOOD EVENING.
WE ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
I AM GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE PRESENTATION PRETTY QUICKLY.
I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE COMPACTOR.
BUT I WILL GIVE YOU SOME OF THE UPDATES.
IT'S LOCATED IN THE SHOPS OF PARKLAND IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE BUILDING. IT IS GOING TO BE LOCATED IN THOSE TWO PARKING SPACES ON THE CORNER.
AND THE KEY POINTS THAT WE WANT TO POINT OUT, I KNOW IT WAS JUST MENTIONED, BUT THIS IS A RETAIL SHOPPING PLAZA, SEVEN TENANTS, FIVE OF THEM ARE FOOD AND BEVERAGE.
WHICH IS WHY THERE IS SO MUCH TRASH BEING GENERATED AT THIS PLAZA. CURRENTLY THERE ARE 13 TRIPS TO PICK UP FROM DEMPSTER'S, THAT INCLUDE SEVEN FOR TRASH AND SIX FOR RECYCLING. THE PROPOSED CONTRACT-- COMPACTOR WOULD REDUCE THE TRIPS FROM SEVEN TO ONE, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN TRUCK TRAFFIC ON THE SITE.
WE WILL BE CLOSING THE COMPACTOR WITHIN A WALL AND LANDSCAPING.
SO IT WOULD BE SHIELDED. AND THEN, HERE IS THE SITE PLAN.
BUT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD-- >> I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, YOU SAID GOING DOWN FROM PICKUPS TO ONE PICKUP A WEEK.
THIS AS IT REDUCES IT FROM 13 TO SEVEN?
>> THAT'S BECAUSE RECYCLING IS STILL STAYING AT SIX.
WE HAVE 13, SEVEN IS TRASH, SIX IS RECYCLING.
AND THE COMPACTOR IS GOING TO BE PICKED UP BY A PRIVATE PROVIDER.
SO THE COMPACTOR, THE SEVEN TRASH TRIPS, ARE GOING DOWN TO ONE. RECYCLING IS STAYING AT SIX.
SO THERE WILL STILL BE SEVEN TRIPS TO THE SITE FOR TRASH RELATED PICKUPS. SIX OF THEM ARE RECYCLING.
ONE OF THEM IS TRASH. >> THANK YOU.
>> NO PROBLEM. SO, HERE WE HAVE-- WE HAD ORIGINALLY COME IN TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND CAME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION WITH THE LOCATION, OR THE LAYOUT ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY HAVING THE PICKUP COME FROM THE CORNER. SO THE TRUCK WOULD BE COMING RIGHT AT THAT INTERSECTION. WE ARRANGED TO MOVE THE WATER METERS AND WORKED DILIGENTLY TO ROTATE THE COMPACTORS SO THE PICKUP IS IN THE DRIVE I'LL. AND AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THAT WE ARE REMOVING THE MORE SOUTHERN TRASH ENCLOSURE, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE THE RECYCLING IN THE NORTH, AND JUST KEEPING THE TWO RECYCLING. IF WE KEPT THE LAYOUT THAT WE HAD ON THE LEFT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP FOUR RECYCLING
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DUMPSTERS ON THE SITE, AND WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REDUCE THE TRIPS EVEN FURTHER. BUT THE LAYOUT TO KEEP THE TRUCK AND THE DRIVER PILED NOW HAS US ONLY KEEPING THE TWO RECYCLING TO STAY AS IS. AND THIS IS JUST A RENDERING ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING IN THE WALL WILL LOOK LIKE.AND HERE THIS IS NEW FROM OUR PRESENTATION LAST TIME.
SO CAITLIN DID GO OVER SOME OF THE TENANT BEHAVIOR, AND THINGS THAT WE DID WITHIN THE LAST MONTH OR SO.
BUT WE ALSO WORKED WITH OUR TRASH CONSULTANT TO CONSULT-- GO THROUGH OUR INVOICES AND TRY TO FIND PHOTOS FOR WHEN WASTE MANAGEMENT CAME TO PICK UP THE TRASH.
THESE ARE PHOTOS FROM JANUARY FROM ONE OF THE DUMPSTERS.
THIS IS A MORE SOUTHERN ENCLOSURE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THESE ARE THREE SEPARATE PICKUPS THAT THE TRASH IS SPILLING OUT OF THE DUMPSTERS.
AND THAT IS WHEN TRASH IS PICKED UP, LATER IN THE EVENING, OR EARLY MORNING. THIS IS WHY WHEN-- CAITLIN MENTIONED THAT THE CODE CAME EARLY IN THE AFTERNOON AND IT'S NOT A TRUE REPRESENTATION OF HOW FULL THE BINS GET EARLY IN THE DAY. AND I WANT TO POINT OUT, PART OF THE REASON WE ARE DOING THIS IS THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE SHOPPING PLAZA.
SO RIGHT NOW, IN MARCH, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT $1800 AND OVERAGES.
BUT WE ARE AVERAGING ABOUT $1000 PER MONTH AND OVER-- OVERAGES ALONE, WHICH IS PASSED ON TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS.
$243 ANY TIME THE DUMPSTER REMOTELY FULL.
IF THERE IS EVEN A LITTLE BIT OF SINGLE PICKUP.
SO THE PROPOSED COMPACTORS GOING TO REDUCE THE COST, IT'S EXPERT-- ESTIMATED BY 48%. THAT'S HUGE SAVINGS.
AND THAT IS REALLY IT. SO THAT IS NEW FROM OUR PRESENTATION. JUST TO REMIND YOU, THE POINT OF THIS COMPACTOR IS THAT THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE AT THIS PLAZA WITH THE TRASH. SO THE WHOLE GOAL-- WHOLE GOAL IS TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY, BUT THE ADDED BENEFIT IS THAT IT WILL CREATE A CLEANER AREA BECAUSE YOU HAVE A SELF-IMPOSED, SELF-CONTAINED COMPACTOR THAT IS LANDSCAPED WITH A WALL AROUND IT. IT'S GOING TO KEEP VERMIN AND BUGS OUT BECAUSE IT IS IN THIS ENCLOSED AREA.
IT HAS AN ODOR CONTROL SYSTEM. CURRENT DUMPSTERS DON'T HAVE ANY ODOR CONTROL. IT'S GOING TO REDUCE THE COST FOR THE BUSINESS OWNERS, AND IT IS REALLY GOING TO IMPROVE THE TENANT EXPERIENCE WITH HANDLING TRASH, AS MUCH AS THAT CAN BE DONE. SO WE HAVE TO VISUALIZE THE, THE WAY THAT THE DUMPSTERS ARE NOW, THEY ARE THESE BIG DUMPSTERS, TRYING TO LIFT THE LID AND TAKE A BAG OF TRASH AND THROW IT INTO THE DUMPSTERS IS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THAN GOING TO THE COMPACTOR AND OPENING THE DOOR AND HAVING WHAT YOU WOULD EXPERIENCE-- NOT ON A BIGGER SCALE, BUT IN AN APARTMENT, WHERE YOU PULL IT DOWN AND DROP IT IN AND PUSH THE BUTTON AND IT IS GONE. SO WE ARE HERE REQUESTING APPROVAL. AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE. >> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> YEAH,,-- YEAH, THE DAYS OF DRIVEN BY THERE, AND I SEE THE PHOTOS FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT, WE HAVE OVERFLOWS OF THE RECYCLING TOO. IS THE RECYCLING A PROBLEM? AURAS-- IS THERE ENOUGH CAPACITY FOR RECYCLING? AND AGAIN, THIS IS A UNIQUE PROPERTY.
THIS IS A PROPERTY WHERE THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY THAT HAS ALL THE DUMPSTERS AND THE BASE IS EXPOSED TO THE PUBLIC.
AND PEOPLE DRIVE BY IT. THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN EVERY SHOPPING CENTER IN OUR CITY. THIS IS ONE OF THE UNIQUE ONES THAT IS DESIGNED THAT WAY. BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THE CONCERN IS THAT IT IS-- IT STILL REMAINS A BIT OF AN EYESORE BACK THERE. SO THE TIMES THAT I HAVE BEEN BY IT RECENTLY, THERE IS STILL DEBRIS AND TRASH OUT THERE, IF IT'S NOT BAGS, OTHER STUFF. THERE IS RECYCLING, OVERFLOWING RECYCLING BOXES ON THE GROUND. SO WHAT EXACTLY HAS BEEN DONE TO CURE IT? THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE IT WAS, DO WE HAVE A CAPACITY ISSUE OR BEHAVIOR ISSUE, OR BOTH? YOU HAVE ARTICULATED THE CAPACITY ISSUE, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY-- THE RECYCLING IS STILL A PROBLEM, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE STILL HAVE BEHAVIORAL ISSUES, WE HAVE STUFF BACK THERE THAT SHOULD NOT BE BACK THERE, AND IT'S NOT A PLEASANT LOOKING REAR END. DON'T TAKE THAT THE WRONG WAY.
>> I WON'T. IT'S A HUMAN BEHAVIOR ISSUE.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE TRASH, THERE IS REALLY ONLY SO MUCH THAT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF CHANGING BEHAVIOR WHEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT CORRECT FOR WHAT THE NEED IS.
SO I THINK, WHEN IT COMES TO TRASH, OBVIOUSLY THE PROPERTY OWNER, WE ARE GOING ON ALMOST THREE YEARS AT THIS POINT OF TRYING TO GET THIS APPROVED. AND THE COMPACTOR ITSELF IS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
SO I THINK THAT THEY ARE HOPEFUL THAT THIS WILL SOLVE THE TRASH PROBLEM. THAT IS WHY WE ARE MOVING THROUGH THIS. AND CREATING BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE TO RESOLVE THE TRASH COMPONENT.
I UNDERSTAND THE RETURN-- CONCERNED WITH THE RECYCLING.
I BELIEVE THAT THE CAPACITY IS SUFFICIENT FOR THE RECYCLING, IT IS JUST THE TENANT BEHAVIOR OF BREAKING DOWN THE BOXES.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE DUMPSTERS THAT CAN
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HAVE-- IN AN IDEAL WORLD WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HAD A DUMPSTER THAT CLOSES AND HAS ONE OF THOSE SLOTS WHERE IT FORCES THE TENANTS-- CREATE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT DOES NOT GIVE HUMAN BEHAVIOR THE CHOICE TO TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT.>> OR SLIDING DOORS ON THE BACK OF THOSE BAYS SO THEY EVENTUALLY
SHUT. >> THE ISSUE WITH THE DUMPSTER IS BECAUSE THEY ARE 4-YARD CAPACITY THEY DO NOT HAVE THAT SIZE THAT I'VE BEEN TOLD-- IT'S JUST NOT AVAILABLE IN THE 4-YARD CAPACITY TO HAVE THE ONES WITH THE LITTLE SLOTS.
AND I DO NOT KNOW, IN TERMS OF ENGINEERING, IF IT CAN BE DONE WITH THE SLIDING DOORS TO KEEP THE DOORS CLOSED.
BUT WITH THE BOXES, IT IS JUST ABOUT TENANT BEHAVIOR AND EDUCATION. AND THE PROPERTY MANAGER HAS BEEN TRYING. AND IT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE.
THE TENANT SENT AN EMAIL OUT WITH BASICALLY ALL OF THE RULES, AND GOING FORWARD HOW THEY ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT FEES-- FINDS, RATHER. AND THE CHOICE WAS MADE NOT TO DO IT IN THIS INTERMEDIARY 45-DAY PERIOD THAT WE WERE GIVEN BECAUSE THEY ARE PAYING SO MUCH AND OVERAGES THAT THEY FELT IT WAS NOT FAIR TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS TO ADD ON TOP OF THAT THESE NEW FINDS. BUT GOING FORWARD, ONCE HE COMPACTOR IS IN PLACE, TENANTS HAVE BEEN PUT ON NOTICE THAT THE PLAN IS AS SOON AS THEY FIND OUT WHO IS VIOLATING THAT, THEY WILL GET A WRITTEN NOTICE, CHARGE 25-DOLLAR FEE PER FINE, AND ANY SORT OF COSTS THAT GO WITH FIXING THE ERROR.
>> WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO MONITOR THAT? HAVE THEY PUT UP-- UP CAMERAS IN THE BAC? WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST MEETING.
A-CARET OR STICK SORT OF INCENTIVE TO GET TENANTS TO
COOPERATE? >> THEY EXPLORE DOING CAMERAS, THERE IS JUST NO MANPOWER TO REVIEW THAT TYPE OF FOOTAGE.
>> TO YOUR POINT, IT IS HARD TO CHANGE BEHAVIOR WHEN IT IS NOT A
GOOD SET UP. >> BUT THE RECYCLING HAS NOT CHANGED. THIS SORT OF ECHOES THE POINT.
WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE AND SEE RECYCLING ALL OVER.
>> THIS WILL SAVE THE TENANTS MONEY, CORRECT?
>> IT WILL SAVE THE TENANTS MONEY, AND THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF NOW IS RECYCLING YOU WILL HAVE BOTH DUMPSTERS IN THE SAME SPOT. SO BEFORE IT WAS MAYBE ONE TENANT IS MORE BOX HEAVY AND THEY ARE GOING TO ONE DUMPSTER AND IT'S FULL. NOW BOTH OF THEM WILL BE THERE SO THE RECYCLING IS SPREAD OUT OVER BOTH.
THEY HAVE THE OPTION, IF THEY REALLY ARE NOT WALKING TO WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE EXPOSING IT, THEY CAN PUT IT IN THE COMPACTOR. BUT THIS IS A RECYCLING ISSUE.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN. ALL WE CAN DO IS WORK WITH THE TENANTS AND DO OUR BEST WITH ENFORCEMENT.
>> MY CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVEN'T FIXED THE BEHAVIOR.
ADDING THE COMPACTOR IS JUST GOING TO TAKE THE GARBAGE FURTHER. ALL THE ISSUES THAT EXIST THERE, RECYCLING, OR PUTTING STUFF OUTSIDE, BANNERS OR ANYTHING THAT IS OUTSIDE THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, WITH THE BAY DOORS BEING OPEN, THEY WILL STILL BE OPEN.
WE ARE NOT STOPPING ANY OF THE EYESORE PROBLEMS. WE HAVEN'T REALLY FIX THE OTHER COMPONENTS, ASIDE FROM JUST THE
CAPACITY ISSUE. >> I WILL ECHO THAT.
I THINK, AND I'VE HEARD A COUPLE THINGS, I HAVE HEARD THAT THIS IS A BEHAVIORAL ISSUE, AND I HAVE HEARD THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE. WHILE THEY CAN BE BOTH, WE CAN DISCERN WHICH IS THE-- WE CANNOT DISCERN THE PRIMARY ISSUE UNTIL YOU SEPARATE THEM OUT AND EVALUATE THEM INDEPENDENTLY.
RIGHT? SO WE TALK ABOUT BEHAVIORAL ISSUES. THE LANDLORD WANTS TO PUT INTO PLACE THIS PROCEDURE POLICY ABOUT WHOEVER IS AN OFFENDER.
THE TIME TO DO IT IS NOW. WHAT I'M HEARING IS IT'S LIKE SOMEBODY GOING TO THE DOCTOR BECAUSE THEY ARE EXTREMELY OBESE AND UNHEALTHY, SAYING "DR. I NEED HELP." THE DOCTOR SAYS "WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
YOU CAN START EAT-- EATING HEALTHY AND CHANGE OUR BEHAVIORS, OR WE CAN DO A SURGERY." AND THERE ARE ALL THESE RISKS, AND GOING FORWARD YOU SLOT TO DO THESE PRECAUTIONS. WE HAVEN'T EVEN TRIED TO DIET.
AND WE ARE GOING FOR THE SURGERY.
AND MY CONCERN IS IF THERE ARE SOME OFFENDERS WERE NOT PUTTING IT AWAY THE WAY THEY SHOULD, ET CETERA, THERE SHOULD BE CAMERAS. IT'S AN OUTSIDE AREA OF THE PERIMETER THAT SHOULD BE SECURED TO BEGIN WITH.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD HAVE CAMERAS BEHIND THE BUILDING ANYWAY. BUT TO ME, ONE OF THE BIGGEST BENEFITS THAT I SAW WHAT THIS WHOLE CONCEPT WAS REDUCING THE GARBAGE PICKUP TRIPS. BUT IF RECYCLING IS STILL PICKING UP EVERY DAY, YOU CAN REDUCE THE GARBAGE TO ONE PER WEEK, BUT YOU HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF TRUCKS COMING IN PER DAY. RIGHT?
>> MAY I SPEAK TO THAT. >> JUST ONE SECOND.
WE HAVE ROBIN HERE. ROBIN, WHEN YOU SPEAK, INTRODUCED HERSELF AND WHERE YOU WORK AND YOUR ADDRESS.
BUT I WANT TO KNOW, IN TERMS OF CAPACITY,-- HUMAN BEHAVIOR.
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LET ME REMIND YOU, AND LET ME-- WE ARE HERE FOR A SITE PLAN AMEND MITT FOR OUR APPLICATION. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN WITH THE TENANT BEHAVIOR. THE PROPERTY MANAGER IS WORKING WITH THE TENANTS AS MUCH AS THEY CAN.PUTTING A 25-DOLLAR FINE. IT MAY OR MAY NOT HELP, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TENANTS, THEY ARE TRYING. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S BEEN STAFFING CHANGES AT SOME OF THE BUSINESS BECAUSE SOME OF THESE ISSUES, WAS WHAT I WAS TOLD. WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND ROBIN WILL SPEAK TO THIS, IT'S ABOUT THE NUMBERS. WHEN WE SEE OUR BILLS FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT, THERE IS MORE TRASH THAT CAN BE HELD BY THOSE DUMPSTERS. ON THE FLOOR OR THE DUMPSTERS, WHERE THE GATE WAS OPEN OR CLOSED.
THAT SHOPPING PLAZA IS GENERATING MORE TRASH THAN CAN BE ACCOMMODATED BY 24-YARD TRASH CANS.
>> BUT IS THAT THE CITY-- AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS.
SHOULD LANDLORDS HAVE ALLOWED THAT MANY TENANTS WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING OF THAT CAPACITY? I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU SAY THIS 25-DOLLAR FEE MAY WORK, BUT ADMITTEDLY THEY HAVE NOT TRIED. SO YEARS WERE LOOKING AT TRYING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM AND LOOKING AT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR A COMPACTOR. BUT YOU'RE TELLING US, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, THE BEHAVIORAL CHANGES WERE THE SYSTEMS, OR THE PAVLOV PENALTIES IN PLACE HAVE IS JUST A FOREGONE CONCLUSION
THEY WILL NOT WORK. >> IT HAS BEEN YEARS OF CAPACITY ISSUES, AND MY UNDERSTANDING. WHICH PRECIPITATED THIS FROM THE BEGINNING. AND I KNOW THE TENANT BEHAVIOR AND CAPACITY ARE INTERTWINED IN A WAY THAT IS HARD FOR ME TO EXPLAIN AROUND. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY A CAPACITY ISSUE.
NO ONE WOULD BE UNDERTAKING THIS, AT $350,000 TO CONSTRUCT
THE COMPACTOR. >> I'M NOT DEBATING NOT.
BUT I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE NOT RESPONDING TO WHAT I'M TELLING YOU. YOU ARE SAYING THIS HAS BEEN A MULTIYEAR PROGRAM, A MULTIYEAR PROBLEM.
I'M ASKING WHAT ARE THE STEPS THAT THE LANDLORD HAS TAKEN AFFIRMATIVELY BEYOND THIS FOR THE BEHAVIORAL ISSUES.
>> YOU CAN'T CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOR IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE
CAPACITY TO PUT STUFF IN THERE. >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE VISE MAYOR SAYING THESE ARE ISSUES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH CAPACITY. THESE PEOPLE JUST DON'T CARE.
AND I GET IT. THEY ARE ON A JOB.
I COMPARED TO WHEN I LIVED IN COLLEGE WITH FOUR ROOMMATES.
IT'S WHOEVER THE LAST PERSON TO PUT THE STOCK OF TRASH ON THE GARBAGE WHEN IT FALLS OVER A, THAT'S WHO'S RESPONSIBLE.
AND WE HAVE FIVE TENANTS ARE PLAYING A GAME.
SO RATHER THAN THE FUTURE, MAYBE WE CAN HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND MAKE THEM INDIVIDUALLY RESPONSIBLE SO THIS EXTRA COST THAT IS NOW ALLOCATED TO EVERYONE UNFAIRLY IS ATTRIBUTED
TO PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE. >> I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT THE ARGUMENT THAT I AM UNDERSTANDING IS THEY DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PUT EVERYTHING IN THE GARBAGE.
>> IF THAT WAS THE CASE THERE WOULD BE GARBAGE ON THE GROUND.
BUT I'M LOOKING AND THERE ARE BAGS IN A DUMPSTER.
>> THEY GET CODE VIOLATIONS FOR THAT TOO.
>> I AGREE IN THE SENSE THAT THIS PROBLEM STARTED IN THE TENANT MIX WHERE THERE ARE RESTAURANTS CREATING DISPOSABLE PLATES, THERE IS NO DISHWASHING ANYWHERE IN THAT PLAZA AND THAT CREATES THE PROBLEM. BUT THAT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE AT THIS POINT. WE CANNOT UNDO THAT CHOICE TO HAVE A TENANT MIX CHAIN IN ANY WAY.
ALSO, TO DROP THE TRIPS DOWN FROM 13 A WEEK TO SEVEN A WEEK IS ALMOST A 50% REDUCTION IN THE TRIPS OF TRUCKS COMING BACK AND FORTH. IT IS A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN TRUCK TRAFFIC, AND A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN THE EXENSE THAT WILL BE PICKED UP WITH OVERAGES. YOU ARE LOSING A BAY WITH THE BAY DOORS THAT CANNOT BE LEFT OPEN BECAUSE A COMPACTOR HAS REPLACED THEM. SO YOU HAVE TWO LESS DOORS THAT COULD BE LEFT OPEN. SO THAT DROP THE POSSIBILITY OF BAY DOORS BEING LEFT OPEN BY 50%.
I THINK IT'S GOING A LONG WAY TO RESOLVE MUCH OF THE ISSUE, WHICH IS THAT THIS WAS TRYING TO RESOLVE, IT'S NOT GOING TO RESOLVE EVERY ISSUE, AND THERE MAYBE STILL A WAY TO GO TO HELP TENANTS LEARN HOW TO BREAK DOWN BOXES AND GET THEM INTO THE DUMPSTER BETTER, BUT THIS IS SEEMINGLY RESOLVING A LOT OF THE CONCERNS, ON A COSMETIC LEVEL AND A COST-SAVING LEVEL.
>> WHEN WE WERE HERE 45, 60 DAYS AGO, WE UNDERSTOOD THERE MAYBE BOTH A CAPACITY ISSUE AND A BEHAVIORAL ISSUE.
AND I GET YOUR POINT. IT IS A FAIR POINT.
BUT WE ARE MOVING THE TRASH TO A EVEN MORE PROMINENT AREA IN THE
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SHOPPING CENTER, TAKING UP PARKING SPOTS AND PUTTING IT RIGHT ON THE CORNER WHERE EVERYBODY COMING IN AND OUT WILL DRIVE-BY. AND THE NOTION THAT WE CANNOT FIX ANY OF THE BEHAVIORAL ISSUES BEFORE THAT HAPPENS, TO ME IS PROBLEMATIC. NOW YOU'RE PUTTING THE TRASH IN AREAS WHERE, WHETHER IT'S THROWN IN THE BIN OR NOT, REMAINS TO BE SEEN, RIGHT IN THE DRIVE I'LL, RIGHT IN THE EYESHOT OF EVERYONE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.I THOUGHT WE WOULD USE THIS 60 DAY PERIOD TO PUT SOME HARD TEETH MEASURES IN PLACE, CAMERAS, FINDS.
ADDITIONAL PICKUPS, WHATEVER, TO SHOW THAT THE BEHAVIORAL ISSUE HAS BEEN SOLVED. NOW LET'S FIX THE CAPACITY ISSUE. BELIEVE ME, I WANT TO FIX THE CAPACITY ISSUE. BUT I DON'T WANT TO BRING THE JUNK FROM THE BACK OF THE HOUSE TO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND JUST MAKE IT MORE VISIBLE. AND THAT'S THE CONCERN I HAVE.
>> TO YOUR POINT, I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
BUT IF THEY START IMPLEMENTING FINES FOR TENANTS, WHEN THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE, I CAN APPRECIATE THAT THE LANDLORD IS WAITING TO START PENALIZING THE TENANTS, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE TIMES WHERE THEY WON'T HAVE ANY WHERE TO PUT THE GARBAGE.
SO NOW YOU'RE GOING TO START FINING PEOPLE, AND THEY'LL SAY I
DON'T HAVE ROOM TO PUT ANYTHING. >> THEY CAN'T FIND PEOPLE, BECAUSE WE CAMP A UP BECAUSE WE CANNOT MONITOR THEM.
>> IT'S PRETTY EASY TO DETERMINE WHOSE GARBAGE IT IS.
AND THEY WILL JUST START FINING EVERYBODY, AND EVERYBODY WILL...
>> IF YOU DRIVE-BY THERE AT ANY GIVEN TIME OF THE DAY YOU SEE BEHIND THE DOORS, AWAY FROM THE RECYCLING BINS, GARBAGE BINS.
>> FOR THIS DECISION, FOR ME, WE NEED TO DECIDEIF WE DON'T LIKE THE TRASH COMPACTOR, AND WE DON'T WANT TO GET A SITE PLAN REMOVAL BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT LOOKS, THEN THAT'S THE DECISION WE SHOULD MAKE. FORGET ABOUT CHANGING BEHAVIORS, THAT WILL WORK ITSELF OUT WITH CODE VIOLATIONS.
SO WE EITHER DON'T LIKE THE TRASH COMPACTOR AND WE DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON THAT BECAUSE OF OUTLOOKS, WE MAKE THAT DECISION, THEY CAN'T GET THE COMPACTOR, CODE ENFORCEMENT GOES OUT THERE, AND THE LANDLORD DOES WHAT HE HAS TO DO, WITH HIS TENANTS.
FINING HIS TENANTS. HIS TENANTS WILL BE PLAY MORE FOR GARBAGE. WE ARE MIXING APPLES AND ORANGES. THE DECISION WE HAVE TO MAKE HERE TODAY IS DO WE WANT TO GIVE A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT TO ALLOW THE TRASH COMPACTOR. IF WE DON'T LIKE THE LOOK OF IT AND WE DON'T WANT TO APPROVE THAT, THEN THAT'S A DECISION WE SHOULD BE MAKING, AS FAR AS HOW TO DISCIPLINE THEIR TENANTS, HOW TO FIND THEIR TENANTS, THAT IS UP TO THE LANDLORD.
HE HAS TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. THAT'S NOT FOR US TO MAKE THE
DECISION. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT, WE WERE IN CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR A LONG TIME WITH THIS PROPERTY. AND NOW WE ARE MAKING A DECISION WITH THE TRASH COMPACTOR THAT IS PERMANENT.
SITE PLAN AMENDMENT IS PERMANENT.
IF IT DOESN'T WORK AND WE HAVE BEHAVIORAL ISSUES, WE ARE IN THE SAME BOAT, BUT NOW WE HAVE THE COMPACTOR.
>> EVERYONE IS TELLING US THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE.
EVERYONE TELLS US THERE WAS A CAPACITY ISSUE.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THEM EXTRA CAPACITY.
AS FAR AS THE WAY THEY ACT, I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S IRRELEVANT, BUT THAT'S BETWEEN THE LANDLORD AND THE TENANTS AND OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT. BUT WE HAVE TO DECIDE.
WE HAVE A TENANT HERE WHO IS ASKING US TO ADD A COMPACTOR BECAUSE THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE.
OUR DECISION SHOULD SIMPLY BE, WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU THAT THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE, WE THINK IT'S A BEHAVIORAL ISSUE.
SO WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT, SO WERE NOT GOING O PASS THE AMENDMENT. OR WE SAY WE BELIEVE THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE. WE WILL APPROVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND THE TRASH COMPACTOR OR SOME OTHER MEANS OF ADDITIONAL CAPACITY. THAT IS ESSENTIALLY OUR DECISION, AS FAR AS HOW THE TENANTS ACT AND HOW THE LANDLORD ACTS AND HOW THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTS.
THOSE ARE THE STEPS WE WILL TAKE.
FOR ME, FOR SURE. IF I APPROVED A TRASH COMPACTOR, IT BETTER BE CLEAN. ALWAYS.
I WILL MAKE SURE CODE ENFORCEMENT IS THERE EVERY DAY CHECKING AND MAKING SURE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE LANDLORD. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE GIVEN FALSE INFORMATION FOR WHATEVER REASON.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WOULD GO THROUGH THIS EXPENSE TO TRY TO ADD A COMPACTOR. TO BUILD A WALL.
TO BUILD EXTRA LANDSCAPING, UNLESS THEY TRULY FELT THERE WAS A CAPACITY ISSUE. FOR ME, THE DECISION IS SIMPLY, I EITHER BELIEVE THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE AND I FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THEM ADDITIONAL CAPACITY, THIS IS THE BEST DECISION THAT OUR STAFF-- OR I DON'T BELIEVE THEM AND I DENIED.
BUT FOR ME I AM TAKING THE WORD OF OUR LANDLORD, OUR TENANTS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE.
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IT'S MY JOB TO FIND OUT A WAY TO GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL CAPACITY.BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ASKING US FOR.
>> I'M GOING TO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.
TO THE POINT THAT WHEN A TENANT OR SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY COMES AND ASKS FOR AN APPROVAL OR EXCEPTION, THERE NOT ASKING YOU BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THEM.
WE HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THEM BECAUSE IT HAS TO MAKE SENSE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF WHAT'S GOOD FOR THAT BUSINESS AND SURROUNDING AREA AND GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
YOU SAY "I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE BEHAVIORAL PROBLEM.
THAT IS FOR THEM TO FIGURE OUT." BUT IF I GRANT THIS GOING FORWARD-- MAYOR, ALL YOU'RE DOING IS KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND SAYING, THEY HAVEN'T PAYMENT-- BEEN ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE NOW. THE REASON WE TABLED THIS WAS BECAUSE WE SENT IT TO COMMISSION.
WE WANT TO SEE FROM THE APPLICANT PROOF OF COMMITMENT.
RIGHT? SHOW US THAT WITHIN THESE TIME PERIODS THERE WILL BE A CLEANER-- CLEAN AIR AREA THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED. AND I HAVE NOT SEEN IT.
SO WE TALK ABOUT, WELL, LET'S LURE-- WORRY ABOUT THAT AFTER WE APPROVE IT. I THINK THAT'S THE OPPOSITE PROBLEM. DON'T PUT SOMETHING IN STONE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO CHISLETT OUT. IT'S LESS MOLDED NOW AND MAKE SURE IT'S CORRECT SO WHEN IT'S PUT IN PLACE WE DON'T HAVE TO DEMO IT. TO ME I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT THE LANDLORD HAS TAKEN THE INITIATIVE TO MAKE THIS AN OPERATIONAL RESULT. AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE CONFIRMED TONIGHT THAT THESE IDEAS ABOUT THE PENALTY PROGRA AND ALL THAT ARE NOT SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURAL OPERATIONAL PROGRAMS. THIS COULD BE IMPLEMENTED PROBABLY WITHIN LESS THAN A WEEK.
A RING CAMERA ON AMAZON. IT COMES WITHIN LESS THAN 24 HOURS. PROBABLY $100.
YOU GET A NOTIFICATION ANY TIME SOMEONE IS BACK THERE.
AND UCO LOOKED, THEY LEFT THE GATE OPEN.
RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE.
AND APPLICANT THAT SAYS LOOK, WE'VE DONE THAT.
THEY ARE NOT PAYING THE FINDS, I UNDERSTAND.
YOU GO TO THE SURGERY OPTION. I'M LOOKING AT THIS BEEN RIGHT HERE, IF I SAW BAKES STREWN ACROSS THE FLOOR, IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ENOUGH ROOM, IT'S THAT THEY ARE NOT TAKING CARE OF THEIR SURROUNDINGS. THESE ARE ROOMMATES WAITING FOR MOM AND DAD TO COME HOME TO CLEAN UP, AND WE ARE ASKING MOM AND DAD, THE LANDLORD, TO SAY LOOK, TAKE CARE OF YOUR HOUSE.
WE ARE HERE TO HELP YOU SUPPORT A PROBLEM THAT IS STRUCTURAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CANNOT BE CONTROLLED BY BEHAVIOR.
BUT TO ASK US TO FIX IT WITHOUT FIRST DEMONSTRATING THE BEHAVIORAL ISSUES CAN BE SOLVED, I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN JUMP TO STAGE TWO. SO FOR THAT I WILL MAKE A MOTION AND DENIED ON THE GROUNDS THAT AGAIN, I STILL THINK THEY HAVE NOT ESTABLISHED THAT THEY'VE TAKEN ALL THE MEASURES AND STEPS TO DO IT WITHOUT THE NEED FOR THE CHANGE.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. >> ARE YOU DENYING IT OR TABLING IT TO ALLOW THEM ADDITIONAL TIME.
>> WE TABLED IT LAST TIME AND I FEEL LIKE WERE HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION AND NOT GETTING TO WHERE WE WERE LAST TIME.
SO I'M GOING TO DENY IT. >> DO I HAVE A SECOND TO DENY
I WOULD PREFER RECONSIDERATION TO TABLE IT.
>> I'M FINE WITH THE TABLING MYSELF.
>> HERE IS MY PROBLEM. IF WE COULD PUT THE COMPACTOR IN TOMORROW AND SEE IF IT WORKS, I WOULD LOVE TO DO IT.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT IS PERMANENT.
IT'S A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT'S PERMANENT.
SO TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, I'D LOVE TO SEE IF PUTTING THE COMPACTOR IN FIXES ALL THE OTHER PROBLEMS. I DON'T THINK IT WILL. YOU WILL SELECT THESE BEHAVIORAL ISSUES. BUT IT MIGHT SOLVE SOME OF-- SOME OF THEM. THE PROBLEM IS THE PERMANENCY OF
THE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT. >> I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH TRYING TO ASK SOMEONE TO CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR IF YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN THEM THE PROPER TOOLS TO SUCCEED.
THAT'S LIKE ME, WHEN I PARENT, I MAKE SURE THAT MY KIDS HAVE ALL THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
AND IF THEY THEN FAIL, THEY GET IN TROUBLE.
BUT IF I HAVE NOT GIVEN THEM THE TOOLS TO SUCCEED, HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO SUCCEED. HOW CAN I THEN PUNISH THEM FOR FAILING WHEN I HAVE NOT PROVIDED THEM.
>> I NEED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION WITH A QUESTION.
WENDAT DEVELOP IT FIRST CAME BEFORE THE CITY AND GOT APPROVAL, HE WOULD AGREE THAT THEY HAD TO PUT A PLAN TOGETHER AS TO WHAT THEY ANTICIPATE OR WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, THE CAPACITY, YOU AGREE. THAT'S THEM PUTTING THAT FORWARD TOTHE COMMISSION. THE CITY DESN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO DO THIS. THE CITY SAYS WE WILL ALLOW THAT OR NOT, RIGHT? WE GRANTED WHAT THEY REQUESTED.
I WAS NOT HERE AT THE TIME. THE POINT IS THEY CAME UP WITH THE PROPOSAL. THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING UNDER IT FOR YEARS. NOW THEY HAVE PUT OUT UNDER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TENANTS MORE THAN WHAT THEY REALISTICALLY
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SHOULD HAVE. THAT WAS AN OPERATIONAL DECISION. THAT WAS NOT A CITY DECISION.NOW I UNDERSTAND YOU AS THE MAYOR ARE SAYING WE HAVE TO
FIURE THIS OUT. >> WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT. THE LANDLORD NEEDS TO FIGURE IT OUT. HE IS ASKING US FOR ADDITIONAL
TOOLS. >> ALL I'M SAYING IS WE WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT TOOL. I THINK THE ANALOGY IS PERFECT, WHY GO TO SURGERY IF YOU CAN GO ON A DIET.
>> I DISAGREE. THERE IS NO QUESTION IN MY MIND THAT THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE WITH THIS SITE.
I DON'T TRACK YOU GUYS, BUT I KNOW THAT STRIP.
I GO THERE MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK AS I HAVE A BUSINESS NEXT-DOOR.
THERE IS VERY LITTLE DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THAT STRIP, AS IT SITS NOW, IS CREATING MORE TRASH, AND THAT IS PROVEN BY THE OVERAGES THAT IT'S BEING BURDENED AND IT'S BURDEN-- BURDENING THE CURRENT TENANTS. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION OF A CAPACITY ISSUE ā-DASH THINK THIS RESOLVES THAT ISSUE. EVEN IF IT DOES NOTHING ELSE, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I REALLY DO.
>> HERE IS AN IDEA. I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THEM FOR A SELECT PERIOD OF TIME-- I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING NOT, BUT FOR A SELECT PERIOD OF TIME, EVEN IF THEY HAVE TO HAVE MORE PICKUPS, TWICE A DAY.
WE SOLVE THE CAPACITY ISSUE. BUT SEE IF WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO TRULY ADDRESS THE BEHAVIORAL ISSUE? WHETHER THAT IS COMING UP WITH NEW DOORS ON THE OTHER BAY THAT WILL STAY THERE AND EXIST, CAMERAS, WHATEVER IT IS, BUT I HEAR WHAT THE MAYOR IS SAYING, WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE TOOLS.
IF FIVE PICKUPS A WEEK IS NOT ENOUGH.
>> WE ARE JUST ASKING THEM TO MAKE THE TENANTS SPEND MORE
MONEY. >> WHO DO YOU THINK WILL PAY FOR THIS COMPACTOR? DO YOU THINK THE LANDLORD IS LIKE OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT THE COST IS THE COST. THE DIFFERENCE THAT WILL HAPPEN IS INFRASTRUCTURE TO THAT PLAZA, AND HOW CARS OPERATE IN THAT CORNER. I DRIVE IN THAT CORNER JUST AS MUCH AS ANYONE, BECAUSE MY OFFICE IS ON THAT CORNER.
AND I CAN TELL YOU IT'S A PRECARIOUS CORNER.
>> I GET IT. WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, AND IT'S TOTALLY FINE TO HAVE THAT OPINION.
IF YOU ARE NOT-- IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THE COMPACTOR FITS FOR WHATEVER REASON, BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC AND IT'S HAD TO GO OVER THERE, THEN THAT IS THE DECISION THAT YOU MAKE.
BUT YOU KEEP SAYING THAT IT'S A BEHAVIORAL ISSUE.
SO HOW ABOUT ALLOWING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ANOTHER DUMPSTER BACK THERE, WHICH WE ALREADY SAID NO?
>> LET US ASSUME. ALL TELL YOU WHAT I WOULD'VE DONE. FOR THE LAST 60 DAYS I WOULD'VE CLEANED THE WHOLE AREA, I WOULD'VE HAD AN ADDITIONAL PICKUP THERE TO SOLVE THE CAPACITY ISSUES, AND ENFORCE THE RULES ON THE TENANTS TO SHOW THAT THERE IS COMPLIANCE.
>> BUT WE WOULD SAY THERE IS NO CAPACITY ISSUE.
YOU DON'T NEED A COMPACTOR. >> YOUR MIXING APPLES AND
ORANGES. >> IF YOU HAVE EXTRA PICKUPS, LET'S MAKE 20 PICKUPS. A PICKUP IN THE MORNING, A PICKUP AT NIGHT. LET THE TENANTS PAY FOR IT AND THERE WON'T BE A CAPACITY ISSUE BECAUSE THEY HAVE DUMPSTERS
GETTING PICKED UP TWICE AS MUCH. >> HERE IS MY PROBLEM.
HERE IS MY PROBLEM. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD, AND THIS PROPERTY PRIOR TO THIS LANDLORD HAS BEEN IN CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THE BACK OF THAT COMPLEX IS CONSISTENTLY AN EYESORE. SO IF-- WE WERE TOLD THAT IF YOU PUT THIS DUMPSTER IN THAT WILL SOLVE THE CAPACITY PROBLEM.
BUT THAT DOES NOT SOLVE ALL THE OTHER PROBLEMS THAT HAVE LED TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES, THAT LED TO THE EYESORE ISSUES.
AND THEY ARE EXISTING NOW EVEN THOUGH WE GAVE 60 DAYS TO SAY CLEAN THINGS UP IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS.
>> THEY WILL CLEAN UP A WHOLE BAND WITH TWO DUMPSTERS.
WITH DOORS. THAT IS GOING TO BE GONE.
SO NOW YOU WILL HAVE HALF AS MANY-- AND THERE ARE ALREADY DUMPSTERS BACK THERE. THAT'S A PROBLEM.
>> I HEAR YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THERE COULD BE A CAPACITY ISSUE.
SOMEBODY WHO WENT OUT THERE TO PUT UP THE GARBAGE AND LEFT IT WHEREVER THEY LEFT IT. THAT COULD BE THE CASE.
>> I WANT TO SOLITUDE-- TRY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
I JUST HAVE A CONCERN THAT WE DID NOT GET TO WHAT WE WOULD GET
TO AFTER 45 OR 60 DAYS. >> I THINK BY LOOKING TO CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR-- WERE LOOKING TO BE ABLE TO SAY THERE'S NOT A CAPACITY ISSUE SO YOU DON'T NEED THE COMPACT.
>> HAD THAT HAPPENED, AND THEY SAID FOR THE TIME PERIOD WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED THESE PROCEDURES. WE'VE DONE CAMERAS, WARNINGS, WE'VE DONE WHATEVER, FINES, ADDITIONAL CLEANUP WORK.
NOT JUST ONCE A MONTH PRESSURE WASHING.
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WE HAVE INSTALLED A SLIDING DOOR FOR THE BAY THAT WILL REMAIN THERE, AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE OVER 60 DAYS.I WOULD'VE BEEN A "YES" TO THAT. BECAUSE I WANT TO FIX THE PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS I'VE HEARD NONE OF THAT. EVEN THOUGH WE WERE PRETTY ADAMANT 60 DAYS AGO, OR 45 DAYS AGO ABOUT THOSE ISSUES.
SO I DON'T WANT THIS ULTIMATELY. I'M MINDFUL OF THE TENANTS AND THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE IMPACTED. I DON'T WANT THIS TO ULTIMATELY BE A FAILURE. TO YOUR POINT, WE HAVE TO FIX A PROBLEM, BUT WE HAVE TO COLLECTIVELY FIX A PROBLEM.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT PUTTING THE DUMPSTER IN ALONE FIXES THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROBLEM. SO I WOULD LIKE IF IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED TO SEE IF WE COULD WITHDRAW THE MOTION TO DENY, AND I WOULD MAKE A MOTION OR ENTERTAIN AN AMENDMENT FOR A MOTION TO TABLE THIS AND PROACTIVELY WORK ON THESE ISSUES. AND I CAN TELL YOU, IF THE LANDLORD SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE WILL DO A FEW MORE PICKUPS A WEEK TO HELP CLEAN THINGS UP AND MAKE IT LOOK TIDY AND ALL THESE OTHER MEASURES, I'M NOT GOING TO COME BACK HERE IN 30 OR 60 DAYS AND SAY WE DON'T HAVE A CAPACITY ISSUE ANYMORE.
>> OF COURSE HE WOULD SAY THAT. AND I AM NOT SAYING YOU SPECIFICALLY. BUT OF COURSE HE WOULD DEDUCE
THAT THERE IS NOT A CAPACITY-- >> NOT NECESSARILY.
THAT THEY ARE DOING AN ARTIFICIAL INCREASING CAPACITY TEMPORARILY TO TEST IF THE THEORY IS CORRECT, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
>> THIS IS ROBIN, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
>> ROBIN, PLEASE SAY YOUR ADDRESS.
>> THIS IS ROBIN HARDER, WITH COMPLETE SOLUTIONS ON SOURCING.
ON DIRECTOR-- DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC SOLUTIONS.
MY ADDRESSES 210 SOUTH U.S. HIGHWAY IN DUNEDIN FLORIDA.
I'M LISTENING TO EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ARE SAYING.
FIRST OF ALL, THERE IS JUST-- A SECOND PICK OF THE DAY IS NOT AVAILABLE-- PICKUP IN THE DAY IS NOT AVAILABLE.
THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE, AND THE CAPACITY ISSUE IS PRIMARILY WITH THE TRASH. WE WANTED TO DOUBLE THE CAPACITY OF THE RECYCLING, BUT THE CITY WANTED US TO REDESIGN THE ENCLOSURE, WHICH REQUIRED TAKING AWAY ONE OF THE ENCLOSURES WHICH NOW MEANT THAT WE ONLY HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF RECYCLING.
WOULD THAT BE ENOUGH IF EVERYONE BROKE DOWN THE BOXES? YES. IS THAT A BEHAVIORAL THING? IT IS JUST A CONSTANT EDUCATION AND TRAINING THING.
AND IF YOU LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE IT IS ALWAYS A MESS, YOU GET USED TO THE MASS. BUT IF YOU BUILD A NEW COMPACTOR ENCLOSURE AND EVERYTHING IS ALL NICE AND PRETTY AND CLEAN, I THINK YOU ARE MORE APT TO WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAN.
AND I WOULD SAY BELIEVE IN THE PROCESS.
WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING WITH COMPLETE SOLUTIONS IS I BUILD BETTER MOUSETRAPS. I DESIGN WASTE AND RECYCLING SYSTEMS. I DO THIS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
I HAVE DONE THIS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
THIS IS LIKE THE ONLY PLACE WHERE-- I FEEL LIKE THE CITY JUST DOES NOT WANT THIS HERE. AND GIVING THEM 45 DAYS TO TRY TO PROVE THAT IT WAS NEEDED,, OR PROVE THAT EVERYTHING COULD BE CLEANED UP, IT WAS ALMOST LIKE SETTING UP TO FAIL.
WE NEED THE COMPACTOR IN ORDER TO MAKE IT BETTER.
SO THAT IS REALLY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.
YOU CAN'T DO TWO DAYS PER WEEK TWO TIMES.
SO THE COUNTY, WASTE MANAGEMENT IS FRANCHISED HERE.
WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE IN WHAT TRASH COMPANY WE USE.
AND PUTTING THIS COMPACTOR IN IS GOING TO SAVE THE TENANTS ALMOST 50% ON THEIR MONTHLY BILL. THAT IN ITSELF IS A NO BRAIN OR.
BECAUSE THE FRANCHISE RATE OF WHAT TRASH PICKUP IS IN PARKLAND FLORIDA IS FOUR ORBACH TIMES WHAT IT IS IN OTHER MARKETS IN
THE AREA. >> WE LOVE WASTE MANAGEMENT.
ALL THE PRICES ARE SET. I'M NOT SAYING YOU DON'T LOVE THEM. I'M JUST SAYING WE DON'T HAVE A
CHOICE. >> I WOULD ADD ONE THING, I DON'T THINK THE ADDITIONAL TIME WAS SETTING US UP TO FAIL.
I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE MADE EFFORTS.
I KNOW THE CAMERA WAS NOT INSTALLED, THE SIGNS WERE NOT INSTALLED, BUT WE DID DO THINGS THE LAST FEW DAYS.
WE HAD A LOT OF OUTREACH WITH TENANTS.
IT'S NOT FEASIBLE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THINGS FACE EACH OTHER.
WE HAVE OUR ARCTIC-- ARCHITECT HERE IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT. WE WENT THROUGH OUR PASSED BILLS AND INVOICES WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT TO PROVE THE CAPACITY ISSUE. I DON'T WANT TO BE LOST THAT YES, WE DID DO SOME OF THE THINGS-- DIDN'T DO SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WERE HOPING TO SEE. I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHY WE CHOSE NOT TO DO THOSE. BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO SEEM LIKE
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WE DID NOTHING OVER THE LAST DAYS.WE DID PRESSURE WASHINGS, EDUCATION WITH THE PORTERS AND TENANTS. A SITE VISIT.
WE SPOKE WITH A LOT OF THE TENANTS.
I WAS HOPING SOME OF THEM WOULD COME WHO ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AND UNDERSTAND THE CAPACITY ISSUES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF MANAGING THE HUMAN BEHAVIOR WHEN WE HAVE THIS CAPACITY ISSUE.
AND I MENTION THIS LAST WEEKEND-- LAST MEETING.
IT'S A CIRCULAR TRAP THAT WE ARE STUCK IN HERE OF THE TWO ISSUES THAT ARE RELATED BUT SEPARATE IN TERMS OF CAPACITY AND HUMAN BEHAVIOR. I SHARE THE FRUSTRATION THAT WE ALL WANT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. --
>> I WAS THE ONE WHO MADE THE MOTION.
AND IT WAS ANYTHING BUT A RECIPE FOR SETTING YOU UP TO FAIL.
IT WAS JUST THE OPPOSITE. IT WAS THAT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A YES DECISION. HAD OVER THE LAST 45 AND 60 DAYS EVERYTHING WITHIN THAT SHOPPING CENTER BEING PRISTINE IN THE BACK OF THAT SHOPPING CENTER, EXCEPT MAYBE THERE IS EXTRA GARBAGE SITTING BACK NEAR THE DUMPSTERS BECAUSE THEY ARE FILLED, OR WHATEVER ELSE, I WOULD SAY NO PROBLEM.
I GET IT. WE STILL HAVE A CAPACITY ISSUE.
LET'S FIX IT WITH THE COMPACTOR. BUT NONE OF THE OTHER THINGS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. THERE'S DEBRIS AND ITEMS AND CANS AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER STUFF IN THE BACK OF THAT SHOPPING CENTER, AWAY FROM THE DUMPSTERS AND BAYS.
BAY DOORS ARE NEVER CLOSED. IT'S NOT CLEAN BACK THERE.
I WAS EXPECTING AND HOPING OVER THE LAST 60 DAYS FOR THERE TO BE A DRAMATIC IMPROVEMENT. AS THEY ARE STILL TOO MUCH GARBAGE GENERATED FROM THE TENANTS THAT CANNOT FIT IN THE DUMPSTER? MAYBE.
SO YOU SEE THE EXTRA BAGS THERE WHERE IT'S OVERFILLED.
BUT THE REST OF IT DIDN'T GET ADDRESSED.
AND I FEEL LIKE MAYBE THE MESSAGE WAS NOT COMMUNICATED AS CLEARLY, BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE PRETTY BLUNT.
I FEEL LIKE THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE.
I WOULD RATHER SEE THAT GET DONE AND THEN WE SOLVE THE PROBLEMS. LET SHOW THAT WE CAN BE THE GOOD STEWARDS AND FIX SOME BEHAVIORAL ISSUES AND THEN SOLVE THE CAPACITY ISSUE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
ONCE YOU CONCLUDE THE SITE AMENDMENT, IF THAT DOES NOT WORK ON THAT SHOPPING CENTERS IN THE BACK, NOW WE HAVE A COUPLE PARKING SPOTS GONE AND STILL THE SAME PROBLEM.
>> YOU TOUCHED ON THIS THE HERE PRESENTATION.
AND I HAVE A SHOP TO THE NORTH. OUR CARDBOARD DEMPSTER IS THE LAST SPOT THERE IN THAT SLOT AND THAT FORCES US TO BREAK DOWN OUR BOXES AND PUT THEM INTO THAT SKINNY SLOT.
HE MENTIONED THAT IT DOES NOT COME IN THE RIGHT CAPACITY FOR THAT STRIP. IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE A CHANGE TO THE DUMPSTER TYPE IN SOME WAY THAT ENFORCES THAT FOR THE
RECYCLING? >> ALL GIVE YOU AN ANSWER HERE.
AND ROBIN, PLEASE CORRECT ME. >> I'M HERE AND HAPPY TO SPEAK
ABOUT IT. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE ENCLOSURE THAT WE HAVE ONLY FITS THE 4-YARD DUMPSTERS THAT WE CURRENTLY USE, AND THAT THAT TYPE OF DUMPSTER FOR RECYCLING WITH THE LOCK IN THE SLOT DOES NOT COME IN THE 4-YARD SIZE.
>> HOW BIG IS A TYPICAL SLOT RECYCLING DUMPSTER?
>> IT'S AN 8 CUBIC YET-- AND EIGHT THE CUBIC YARD.
THE PROBLEM IS YOU CANNOT PULL THEM STRAIGHT TO PICK UP THE DUMPSTERS. THEY HAVE TO BE ON WHEELS AND THEY HAVE TO BE ROLLED OUT FOR THE TRUCK TO EMPTY THEM.
SO THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY AS A 4 CUBIC YARD.
WITH THE SLOT, IF YOU LOCK IT DOWN SO PEOPLE CAN BEND THE LID BACK, THEY CAN REACH THEM. IF YOU PUT THE SLOT AND IT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES UP ON THE SCREEN, IT'S GOING TO BE BOUND BY THE BOTTOM OF THAT STICKER, RIGHT ABOVE THE SLEEVES. AND YOU HAVE BASICALLY CUT THE CAPACITY OF THIS DUMPSTER IN HALF.
IF THAT MAKES SENSE. LIKE YOU, BUT IF YOU GOT RID OF 24-YARD CLAMSHELL DUMPSTERS AND REPLACED THEM WITH ONE THAT COULD BE STORED AT 90 DEGREES FOR PICKUP, AS A POSSIBLE?
>> THE LARGEST CAPACITY DUMPSTER THAT'S AVAILABLE WITH WHEELS ON IT IS THE SIZE THAT THEY HAVE THEIR.
>> AND SHE IS ALSO SAYING THEY WILL STILL HAVE AN OVERFLOW OR CAPACITY ISSUE WITH RECYCLING, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PUT MORE RECYCLING BINS IN, BUT WE ARE HAVING THEM GET RID OF THAT BAY
ON THE NORTH END. >> WE DID NOT WANT TO PUT MORE IN, IT'S AT THE ORIGINAL LAYOUT THAT WE HAD ON THE BACK.
>> THE CAPACITY IS AN ISSUE WITH PEOPLE PUTTING FOUR-- BOXES IN
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THE DUMPSTER. IF WE BREAK THEM DOWN INTO FLAT>> THE SLOTTED DUMPSTER IS A POROUS BEHAVIOR CHANGE BECAUSE THEY CANNOT PUT IT IN THERE WITHOUT BREAKING IT DOWN.
>> THE DESIGN WE HAD COMING BEFORE HE WAS THE ONE ON THE LEFT THAT HAD THE OPENING IN THE CORNER THERE.
WITH THAT DESIGN WE WERE ABLE TO RETAIN BOTH DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES.
SO WE THOUGHT, HEY, WE STILL HAVE THIS DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE.
WE DON'T NEED TRASH DEMPSTER'S. WHY DON'T WE PUT IN 24-YARD RECYCLING. BUT SINCE WE ARE SHIFTING A TO THE DESIGN ON THE RIGHT, WE DON'T HAVE THE OPTION OF ADDING THIS. IT WAS NOT THAT OF WE NEED IT AND WERE DOING IT, IT WAS JUST HAVING THE SPACE, WHY NOT ADD
MORE RECYCLING. >> IT WOULD HAVE CUT THE PICKUPS DOWN AS WELL. WE WOULD'VE HAD FOR DUMPSTERS GOING THREE DAYS A WEEK INSTEAD OF TWO GOING SIX DAYS.
AND HAVING THE ADDITIONAL ABILITY TO INCREASE PICKUPS IF
NECESSARY. >> VICE MAYOR BRIER, AND COMMISSIONER ISROW, DID YOU GUYS WORK OUT--
>> I'M HAPPY TO AMEND IT AND TABLE IT.
BUT I'M NOT READY TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO I WOULD MOTION TO TABLE. >> I WILL SECOND WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE WANT-- I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME WE THINK THAT WE NEED, OR THE LANDLORD THINGS THAT WE NEED.
IF WE COULD SEE REAL TANGIBLE ACTION PLANS HERE, TO RESOLVE THE OTHER ISSUES, I WOULD MORE THAN BE HAPPY TO BE A "YES" AT
THE END OF THE DAY. >> AND WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE CATCHES LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK, IS WHAT I HEARD LAST TIME.
SOME MANAGEMENT. SOME OVERSIGHT OF THIS AREA.
AND REALISTICALLY, THERE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE A COUNT FROM EACH TENANT HOW MANY BAGS OF TRASH. IF WE ARE PICKING IT UP EVERY DAY, THERE SHOULD BE AN OBVIOU IDENTIFICATION.
LET US START LOOKING AND SEEING HOW MANY-- NUMBER 1, HOW MANY ACCESS BAGS-- EXCESS BAGS ARE NOT FITTING IN THIS DUMPSTER EVERY DAY. IF YOU SAY IT'S A CAPACITY
ISSUE, WHAT IS IT? >> YOU WANT TENANTS TO COUNT
THEIR GARBAGE BAGS? >> I WANT THE LANDLORD TO MANAGE. WERE TALKING ABOUT DATA.
WE ARE DOING A TRASH MANAGEMENT PLAN.
IF YOU'RE ASKING A QUESTION LET ME ANSWER.
UPPER TALKING BOOK CAPACITY, HOW DO YOU MEASURE CAPACITY WITHOUT
KNOWING THAT? >> IN TERMS OF KNOWING THAT, I WELCOME ANY SOLUTIONS YOU GUYS WANT AND WE WILL EXPLORE THOSE.
BUT IN TERMS OF THAT SPECIFIC ONE, TRASH IS PICKED UP LATE IN THE EVENING. OUR PROPERTY MANAGERS NOT EVEN LOCATED IN FLORIDA. OUR QUARTER COMES AT CERTAIN TIMES. AND THERE IS JUST NOT A PERSON ON SITE TO--
>> I UNDERSTAND. I JUST WANT TO RESPOND.
>> I'M TRYING TO HELP. >> I'M ONLY RESPONDING NOW.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I DON'T EVEN COME BACK UNTIL YOU WE DID NOT DO IT. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW.
>> I WILL SAY THIS. I WILL ENCOURAGE OUR STEP TO WORK WITH THE LANDLORD ON THIS. I AM WILLING, MAYBE THERE ARE SOME TEMPERING MEASURES WHERE WE CAN ADDRESS THE CAPACITY ISSUE IN THE IN TERMS SO WE CAN SOLVE THE BEHAVIORAL ISSUE.
I WANT US TO BE CREATIVE. I WANT YOU TO SUCCEED.
>> I THINK SHE IS CLEAR. SO IF WE COULD JUST... DID YOU
I SECONDED IT. >> MAYBE DEFERRED TO A DATE CERTAIN? THAT'S A BETTER IDEA.
>> IF YOU TABLE IT, THEN YOU MAY FALL OFF THE TABLE TONIGHT AND DIE.
>> I WILL SECOND. >> AND OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS THE TIME. BUT I'M ECHOING THE VISE MAYOR.
I THOUGHT THE LAST TIME THAT WE WENT THROUGH THIS WE WERE AT THE STAGE WE ARE AT AGAIN NOW. 40 DAYS, WHATEVER IT IS, I WANT YOU TO GIVE US MEANINGFUL INFORMATION, OTHER FOR US TO KEEP COMING BACK AND TALKING ABOUT THE PROBLEM.
WE UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM. WE ARE TRYING TO DECIDE, OF THAT PROBLEM, HOW MUCH IS BEHAVIOR, HOW MUCH IS STRUCTURAL? HOW MUCH BEHAVIOR DO YOU WANT T% INFLUENCE? IT WOULD HELP FOR US TO HELP YOU BY UNDERSTANDING.
>> I THINK THAT WE SHOULD GIVE THEM A TIME.
NO? >> WELL,, LAST TIME, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE SAID 45, I SAID WE WOULD GIVE THEM 60.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME THEY NEED.
>> SO IS THERE A WAY TO DIFFER IT AND CONSULT WITH THE APPLICANT AGAIN ABOUT WHEN WE SHOULD PUT THIS BACK ON?
>> WE CAN DEFER ITEMS TO A FUTURE MEETING.
BUT IF YOU DON'T SET A SPECIFIC DATE IT WILL NEED TO BE RENOTICED. AND THE NOTICE WILL BE UPDATED.
>> SIXTY DAYS? >> YES, 60 DAYS.
THAT WORKS FOR ME. >> THEY SHOULD NOT NEED MORE
THAN THAT. >> I'M JUST TRYING TO GET DATA.
BUCK, THAT TO ME IS KIND OF AN EXCUSE.
WE ALL LIVE EVERYWHERE. THE MAN OWNS A BUSINESS AND HE
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RUNS IT. WHERE THERE IS A WILL, THERE IS A WAY.>> AUGUST 12TH. >> WE WILL GO AUGUST 12TH
BECAUSE WE ARE OFF IN JULY. >> WE WILL BE HERE.
>> DIFFERED TO AUGUST 12TH. >> AND THE SECOND FROM THE VISE MAYOR. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? OKAY.
WE HAVE OUR RESIDENT TRASH EXPERT.
>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VISE MAYOR'S, CITY MANAGERS.
SUPPORT THE MOTION TO DIFFER FROM A STANDPOINT OF A SITE PLAN, SOMEBODY LIKE COMMISSIONER KATZMAN WHO GOES FREQUENTLY IN THAT AREA, I CANNOT SUPPORT PERSONALLY THE SITE PLAN AND PUTTING THE COMPACTOR THERE. I THINK IT'S A QUALITY-OF-LIFE ISSUE. YOU HAVE IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER, THE BJ'S PROPANE TANK RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING LOT. QUALITY-OF-LIFE ISSUE.
YOU WILL GET BACK THE THINGS THAT ARE LOOKING.
BUT IN THAT DEFERRAL THERE MAYBE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS EXPLORED OR COULD EXPLORE TO PUT A DUMPSTER SOMEWHERE. AND I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR FOUR MORE FIVE YEARS. INITIALLY WHEN THAT SHOPPING CENTER CAME INTO PLAY THERE WAS JUST THE TWO DUMPSTER AREAS.
BUT THE ISSUE GETS BACK TO IF YOU CLOSE THOSE GATES AND YOU CLOSE THE LIDS. EVEN IF IT'S OVERCAPACITY YOU WILL NOT GET THE UNSIGHTLY QUALITY OF LIFE LOOK.
AND THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT IS THEY ARE.
THERE ARE OTHER SHOPPING CENTERS IN THE AREA, THEY ARE GETTING SO CLOSE, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEHIND THERE.
THEY COULD HAVE TONNES OF BOXES THAT ARE CRUSHED AND OTHER STUFF, BUT YOU CANNOT SEE IT AS YOU DRIVE BY.
AND THAT, TO ME, IS MORE OF THE ISSUE.
AGAIN, THE BEHAVIOR, BUT WE CAN GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, AS YOU HAD MENTIONED. I CANNOT APPROVE A TRASH COMPACTOR THERE. I THINK THERE MAYBE OTHER OPTIONS. I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.
THE OTHER THING THAT, AGAIN IS A TEMPORARY MEASURE.
WE ALL HAS RESIDENTS HAVE THESE 96-GALLON CONTAINERS WE THROW OUR TRASH END. MAYBE THAT SOMETHING EACH TENANT GETS. IT'S NOT UNSIGHTLY, YOU GO OVER HERE AND SEE WHERE THE CITY HAS THE TRASH DUMPSTER.
THERE ARE HOW MANY? 15 RECYCLABLES OR WHATEVER THEY ARE? IT IS NOT UNSIGHTLY.
IT LOOKS CLUTTERED, BUT IT IS NOT UNSIGHTLY.
IT'S NOT LIKE THE TRASH IS OUT THERE ROLLING AROUND THE PLACE.
MY SUGGESTION IS TO TALK TO COASTAL, TALK TO WASTE MANAGEMENT. MAYBE THEY HAVE SOME SOLUTIONS.
CURRENTLY IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY GO THROUGH A THIRD-PARTY TO CONTRACT OUT. BUT THE CITY HAS GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH COASTAL. THEY HAVE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT. MAYBE CONSULT WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT THEY DO. MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING THEY WANT TO BUILD. BUT GETTING BACK TO THE MOTION AT HAND, I DO AGREE TO DIFFER IT.
GIVE THE APPLICANT SOME TIME TO WORK ON SOME THINGS, AND HOPEFULLY I THINK WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT, WE WANT TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE AND MAKE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AS WE GO TO THAT SHOPPING CENTER. THANK YOU.
>> ANYONE ELSE? SEEING THAT THERE IS NONE.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> I THINK IT IS TOO LATE.
>> I'M JUST KIDDING. [LAUGHTER]
>> I'M STILL LEARNING. OUT OF RESPECT TO YOU, MAYOR.
SO, CAN MARRY-- FORMER COMMISSIONER, ALL THE ACCOLADES YOU HAVE, I CAN'T KEEP TRACK OF THEM.
THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT INDIVIDUAL DUMPSTERS IS INTERESTING. AND I DO AGREE, IT CAN GET CLUTTERED. BUT HOW VIABLE WOULD THAT BE?
>> WE DON'T HAVE SPACE IN THE BACK FOR INDIVIDUAL DUMPSTERS, WHETHER OR NOT THE TENANTS GET LARGE GARBAGE CANS, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. WE CAN LOOK AT IT, I JUST DON'T
HAVE THE ANSWERS. >> I THINK WE HAD ORIGINALLY TRIED TO DO THAT AND THERE IS NOT ENOUGH ROOM.
>> AND JUST TO SCREEN IT AND EVERYTHING.
AND I WILL SAY WE DID LOOK, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.
THIS WAS THE FIRST LOCATION THAT WE LOOKED AT OVER HERE.
THEN WE LOOKED AT A LOCATION HERE.
THEN YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT, BUT WE LOOKED AT TWO OTHER LOCATIONS AND A FOURTH LOCATION, AND A FIFTH LOCATION.
AND NOW WE ARE ON OUR SIXTH DESIGN.
BECAUSE OF EASEMENTS AND OTHER THINGS IN THE BACK THERE, WE ARE
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LIMITED. BUT WE DID EXPLORE EVERY OTHER CONFIGURATION. DUMPSTERS, OR THIS COMPACTOR.>> IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA EVEN IF IT IS TEMPORARY AND IT DOESN'T SOLVE THE LONG-TERM CAPACITY ISSUE.
MAYBE WE WILL SEE A CLEANUP ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
MAYBE SOME LARGE GARBAGE CANS BACK THEREFORE THE OVERFLOW, AND SEE IF THE REST OF THE CLEANUP OCCURS.
>> I THINK WE CAN WORK WITH HIM ON A TEMPORARY BASIS, A PERMANENT SOLUTION WOULD BE THAT IT HAS TO BE FULLY SCREENED.
IT ON A TEMPORARY BASIS IF YOU WANT TO WORK WITH THE APPLICNT TO SEE IF THAT ADDRESSES THE COMMISSIONS ISSUE CAPACITY, WE
CAN DO THAT. >> I WILL SAY THAT I HEAR FROM A LOT OF RESIDENTS. THERE ARE TIMES THAT I HEAR THAT THEY FEEL LIKE EAST PARKLAND IS-- AND I WILL JUST SAY THIS, THIS IS WHAT I HEAR, WE DON'T GIVE THE SAME ATTENTION TO EAST PARKLAND AS WE DO TO WEST. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S TRUE, BUT I RESPECT THAT PERCEPTION, OPINIONS AND CONCERNS.
SO THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF TRYING TO BALANCE ALL THE CONCERNS. AND TO THE POINT, IS THERE A HAPPY MEDIUM HERE? I DO THINK THERE COULD HAVE BEEN MORE DONE IN THE 60 DAYS, THAT SAID, YOU GAVE US A WHOLE LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT WERE DONE.
AND I THINK SOME OF THEM ARE NOT LISTENING.
IF ANYTHING IT'S WATER ON THE OF THE BRIDGE.
BUT THERE WERE FAR TOO MANY FOOD BEVERAGE PLACES THERE.
I REMEMBER WHEN MOM'S PIZZA WAS A RETAIL PLACE, AND IT IS NOT ANYMORE. BUT THAT IS DONE.
IT PROBABLY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN.
THAT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW THAT MAYBE THERE ARE SHORT-TERM OPTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE WE VOTE? >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT MY DISTRICT IS A HOOD TO. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ROLL CALL.
>> COMMISSIONER MURPHY SALOMONE. >> WEARE VOTING ON DEFERRING TO AUGUST 12TH WITH ADDITIONAL CLEANING UP OF ADDITIONAL MEASURES FOR BEHAVIORAL CHANGES AND POTENTIALLY WORKING WITH CITY STAFF ON A TEMPORARY ADDITIONAL GARBAGE SOLUTION DID
I GET THAT RIGHT? >> SOUNDED GREAT TO ME.
>> I THINK THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE THIS IN A WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE IT NOT PERFECT, BUT THE BEST SOLUTION.
SO I THINK DEFERRING IT WILL ALLOW FOR THAT.
AT LEAST I HOPE SO. I REALIZE THIS HAS GONE BACK AND FORTH QUITE A BIT. SO I AM VERY TORN.
BUT I WILL SAY YES. >> COMMISSIONER ISROW.
>> COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN. >> YES.
>> THE ISSUE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> HAVE A GREAT SUMMER.
WE ARE NOW ON NINE BE. THE NEXT FIVE ITEMS ARE RELATED.
TO AN EXPANSION. THEY WILL BE PRESENTED TOGETHER.
EXCUSE ME. THAT WILL NOT HELP YOUR CASE.
[LAUGHTER] >> I CAN APPRECIATE THE ENTHUSIASM FOR A POTENTIAL APPROVAL, BUT, ALL KIDDING ASIDE, IF WE COULD HAVE NONE OF THAT, IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
OKAY? >> THE NEXT FIVE ITEMS ARE RELATED TO THE SOMERSET ACADEMY EXPANSION.
THEY WILL BE PRESENTED TOGETHER. SO I WILL READ THE NEXT FIVE TITLES IN TO THE RECORD. BEAR WITH ME.
WE WILL NEED SEPARATE VOTES AT THE END ON EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS. FIRST ITEM IS ITEM 9B AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE APPROVED MIRALAGO MASTER PLAN TO ALLOW FOR A MAXIMUM OF 135,000 SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT ON PARCEL C AND TO AMEND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ESTABLISHED IN ORDINANCE 2011-036 PERTAINING TO MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT ALLOWANCES FOR THE PROPERTY; GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF N. UNIVERSITY DRIVE AND W. HILLSBORO BLVD. (SOMERSET ACADEMY EXPANSION; APPLICATION NO. 2025-5-MPA): PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
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9C. RESOLUTION 2026-029: PLAT NOTE AMENDMENT - DEFERRED FROM THE MAY 6, 2026 CITY COMMISSION MEETING A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA APPROVING A PLAT NOTE AMENDMENT FOR PARCEL C OF THE DEBUYS PLAT TO PERMIT A MAXIMUM OF 135,000 SQUARE FOOT PUBLIC CHARTER SCHOOL, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 8401 UNIVERSITY DRIVE (SOMERSET CHARTER EXPANSION; APPLICATION NO. 2025-29-P); PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.9D. RESOLUTION 2026-028: SOMERSET ACADEMY EXPANSION - A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA APPROVING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION, SITE PLAN AMENDMENT AND COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD APPLICATION TO PERMIT AN EXPANSION TO AN EXISTING EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION GENERALLY LOCATED AT 8401 UNIVERSITY DRIVE (SOMERSET CHARTER EXPANSION; APPLICATION NOS. 2025-18-SE, 2025-17-SPA & 2025-19-CAB); PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 9E. RESOLUTION 2026-031: AMENDING THE DECLARATION OF RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO A DECLARATION OF RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, RECORDED AS INSTRUMENT NO. 109938295 IN THE BROWARD COUNTY PUBLIC RECORDS, TO PROVIDE FOR A MAXIMUM OF 135,000 SQUARE FEET OF PUBLIC CHARTER SCHOOL USE PERMITTED ON THE SCHOOL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8401 UNIVERSITY DRIVE, SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 9F. RESOLUTION 2026-030: AMENDMENTS TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PARKLAND AND PARKLAND SCHOOL PROPERTY LLC., RECORDED AS INSTRUMENT NO.
115758152 IN THE BROWARD COUNTY PUBLIC RECORDS, TO ACCOMMODATE A PROPOSED SCHOOL EXPANSION PROJECT ON THE SUBJECT SITE, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 8401 UNIVERSITY DRIVE, AND THE PROVISION OF RELATED OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE SO THE APPLICANT IS BACKED BY SCOTT BACKMAN. BEFORE OUR PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW THE CLIENT HAS THE RIGHT TO A MORE FORMAL QUASIJUDICIAL PROCESS WITH CROSS-EXAMINATION, ET CETERA.
OR YOU CAN CHOOSE TO WAIVE THAT MORE FORMAL PROCESS.
PLEASE ADVISE WHAT YOU WOULD SO CHOOSE.
>> I WILL WAIVE THE QUASIJUDICIAL PROCESS.
>> IT EVENING, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
CAITLIN FORBES, FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
IS A CITY ATTORNEY READ INTO THE RECORDS, THERE ARE SEVERAL ITEMS BEFORE YOU PERTAINING TO THE PARKLAND SOMERSET CHARTER SCHOOL PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED ON 10.3 ACRES AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF HILLSBOROUGH UNIVERSITY.
THE SETTING WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 2018.
WITH A SIMILAR LIST OF APPROVALS AT THAT TIME.
TONIGHT BEFORE YOU THE FIRST ITEM IS THE SECOND READING OF THE MASTER CLAIM AMENDMENT. THIS WAS BEFORE YOU ON FIRST READING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH.
AT THE TIME YOU HEARD A PRESENTATION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE APPLICATIONS, AS WELL, TO GIVE YOU AN OVERALL IDEA OF THE TOTALITY OF THE APPLICATION AND REQUEST.
THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THAT MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT.
THE APPLICATIONS IN ADDITION ON THE ONE AND ONLY READING INCLUDING THE PLATINUM AMENDMENT, A REQUEST FOR THAT TO INCREASE THE ALLOWANCE FROM 100,000 TO 135,000 SQUARE FEET OF CHARTER SCHOOL USE. WE ALSO HAVE, AS THE CITY ATTORNEY MENTIONED, THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION, SITE PLAN AMENDMENT AND CBE APPLICATIONS. WHAT THIS ALLOWS THE APPLICANT TO DO IS INCREASE THE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE ON APPROXIMATELY 98,000 SQUARE FEET TO RIGHT AROUND 125,000 SQUARE FEET IN CHANGE. IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR AN INCREASE IN ENROLLMENT FROM 1280 STUDENTS TO 2100 STUDENTS.
AND AN INCREASE IN THE RANGE FROM K TO EIGHT TO K TO 12.
WE HAVE THE DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU THAT LARGELY PERTAINS TO THE OPERATIONAL CHANGES AND OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING-- PROFFERED BY THE APPLICANT, AND THE DECLARATION OF RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT MIRRORS THE MASTER PLAN AENDMENT REQUEST, WHICH IS TO INCREASE THE ALLOWANCE OF 135,000 SQUARE FEET TOTAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY.
SINCE THE LAST TIME THE APPLICANT WAS BEFORE YOU THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO WORK WITH STAFF TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION'S CONCERNS, THEY PROVIDED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENTAL GRAPHICS AND DETAILS IN TERMS OF THE SITE OPERATIONS. AND THEY MADE SOME CHANGES TO THEIR PHASING PLAN. EARLIER IN THE PROCESSBE BUILT- CONCURRENTLY WITH BUILDING D. AND ALSO HAVE GUARANTEED THAT THE GYMNASIUM WILL BE CONSTRUCTED THROUGH VARIOUS MEANS, AS YOU WILL SEE IN THE APPROVAL.
THEY HAVE BEEN COURT AND AIDING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED AT THE LAST MEETING, LARGELY PERTAINING TO LANDSCAPE AND MAINTENANCE OF THE LANDSCAPE AREAS.
SO, WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANTS TO MAKE
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THEIR PRESENTATION. SCOTT BACKMAN ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. AND FIRST, LET ME SAY, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US BACK THIS EVENING. I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE EVER STOPPED SINCE WE LEFT HERE ON MAY 6TH.COUNTLESS INTERNAL MEETINGS, MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF, SEVERAL CONVERATIONS AND MEETINGS WITH ALL OF YOU IN AN EFFORT TO REALLY AND DILIGENTLY PROVIDE THE FEEDBACK AND INFORMATION. WE CAME IN HERE AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PRESENTATION TONIGHT. WE DO HAVE THE PRESENTATION FROM THE LAST MEETING, BUT ONE OF YOU SAID AT THE LAST MEETING, WE CAME IN AND MADE A VERY TECHNICAL PRESENTATION ABOUT THE VARIOUS APPLICATIONS THAT WE WERE REQUESTING THAT WERE ROPED-- BEFORE YOU. AND WE HAD GIVEN THE THOUGHT RELATED TO THE SCHOOL AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE SCHOOL. BUT IT'S WHAT THE SCHOOL DOES ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, AND WE HAD GIVEN THAT THOUGHT TO IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD. WE DID NOT THINK TO NECESSARILY% PRESENT AS MUCH OF IT AS WE DID IN OUR FIRST MEETING.
TONIGHT I AM GOING TO-- I THINK I HAVE THREE, FOUR SLIDES, THE PRINCIPAL WILL SPEND SOME TIME WITH YOU TALKING ABOUT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMMING AND ACADEMICS.
THE SCHOOL CURRICULUM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AND THEN OUR ARCHITECT IS GOING TO SPEND SOME TIME TALKING YOU THROUGH A VARIETY OF THE ISSUES THAT EACH OF YOU POSED AT THE LAST MEETING. SO, UNLIKE THE LAST MEETING, WHERE I THINK THAT YOU LET US GET THROUGH THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR PRESENTATION, WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE OPEN DIALOG TONIGHT, ISSUE BY ISSUE. WE WILL BE GOING POINT BY POINT THROUGH PROBABLY A SIX OR SEVEN POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AT ANY POINT ALONG THE WAY, PLEASE, WISHES TO HAVE OPEN DIALOG THROUGHOUT THE EVENING AND TRY TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES AS THEY COME UP AND WHEN QUESTIONS COME IN TO YOUR MIND. THANK YOU.
CAITLIN JUST SUMMARIZED, JUST A REMINDER, THERE ARE FIVE ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA. THERE ARE ACTUALLY SEVEN ITEMS TECHNICALLY BEFORE YOU. A FEW OF THOSE SPECIAL EXCEPTION-- EXCEPTION SITE PLANS AND THE COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD IN ONE AGENDA ITEM AND THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPED AGREEMENT, WHICH IS WHAT I WILL SPEND SOME TIME TALKING ABOUT NEXT. AS WELL AS HE AMENDMENT TO RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, WHICH EMBODIES THE SQUARE FOOTAGE CHANGE TO THE FLAT NOTE AND THE MASTER PLAN.
WE DID SPEND SOME TIME TALKING AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT HOW BACK IN 2018 THERE WAS A LOT OF CHECKS AND BALANCES, SUSPENDERS PUT INTO PLACE THROUGH A SIGNIFICANT VELMA TO AGREEMENT AS IT'S APPLICATION MADE IT'S WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS.
THE SUMMARY AND BULLET POINTS YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THIS TO VELMA TO AGREEMENT PROVIDE FOR ALL KINDS OF CHECKS AND BALANCES TO MAKE SURE THAT AT THE TIME WHEN SCHOOLS APPROVED AT, 1280 STUDENTS THAT IT OPERATED EFFICIENTLY. THAT IT WOULDN'T CREATE CONCERNS OR PROBLEMS AND I THINK WE ALL AGREED AT THE LAST MEETING FROM EIGHT TRAFFIC AND PACKING STANDPOINT IT'S WORKING GREAT.
THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOMETIMES WERE NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT THE SCHOOL IS WORKING THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO.
SO WERE DEALING WITH AN INCREASE OF PLUS OR MINUS 1000 ADDITIONAL STUDENTS. AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO, AND WHAT KINDS OF CHECKS AND BALANCES AND SAFEGUARDS CAN BE PUT IN PLACE TO DEAL WITH THAT.
SO THAT'S ALL FROM THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.
WHERE WE GO TO THE AMENDMENT OF THIS AGREEMENT.
I BELIEVE IT WAS COMMISSIONER BRIER AND ISROW AT THE LAST MEETING THAT RAISED WHAT ARE THESE PROTECTIONS A WE ARE BUILDING IN MOVING FORWARD. AND MORE STUDENTS AND VEHICLES WILL BE ON THE ROAD. UNDER THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS TWO WEEKS AGO.
THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT HAD A 1000 STUDENT CAP BEFORE YOU COULD EXCEED AND GO TO 1280. THE TRIGGER FOR THAT IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WAS GOING TO BE EXCEEDING 772 STUDENTS.
YOU CAN DO A STUDY. WE DID THAT STUDY I THINK IN 2023-2024. WE WERE ABLE TO SURPASS AND NOW WE ARE AT 1028 STUDENTS. INITIALLY WE ARE ONLY IN TO THE AMENDMENT AGREEMENT AND WE JUST CARRY THAT PROCESS FORWARD AND CHANGE THE TIME FRAMES. RIGHT? SO NOW WE CAN'T EXCEED FROM THE 1280 THAT WE WERE ALLOWED TO BE AT, WE CANNOT EXCEED 1700 TO GO TO 2100, AND LESS WE PROVIDE THE REPORT THAT IS REQUIRED AFTER WE HIT 1400 STUDENTS.
SO THAT IS ALL LANGUAGE IN THIS AGREEMENT.
THE SECONDARY PIECE OF IT, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I SPENT SOME TIME ON THE PHONE TALKING ABOUT IT.
WE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE AGREEMENT AND THE CONDITION OF THE APPROVAL THAT REFLECT THIS. COMMISSIONER, I BELIEVE IT WAS
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YOU. WE HAVE THIS RAMP-UP SCHEDULE, IT HAS THESE STUDENT THRESHOLDS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.EACH YEAR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO ANNUAL OR MONTHLY REPORTING.
THE AGREEMENT PROVIDES VERY CLEARLY THAT IF WE FAIL, AND IT'S OUTLINED HERE AS WELL, IT'S A NO ACTION REQUIRED FINDING THAT WE HAVE A 60 DAY WINDOW WITHIN WHICH TO AFFECT AND ADDRESS AND FIX WHATEVER THAT SITUATION IS.
SO THERE ARE A COUPLE MINOR LITTLE ISSUES THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER TIME, AND WE ADDRESS THAT AND CORRECTED IT VERY QUICKLY AND THAT'S WHY THIS AGREEMENT WAS PUT IN PLACE.
WHAT YOU SEE THERE, AND WE'VE ADDRESSED THIS TO HAVE MINOR CHANGES IN THE CONDITIONS, IS EVERY SINGLE YEAR, THROUGHOUT THE RAMP-UP SCHEDULE, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE TIME WE HAD 2100, BECAUSE OF THE MONTHLY AND ANNUAL MONITORING REQUIREMENTS, THOSE ARE THE CAPS. THE THRESHOLDS.
WE GET TO 1454, THAT'S WHEN WE OPEN, AND WE WILL GET TO THE GRAPHICS AND SHOW YOU THE STUFF AGAIN AS REMINDERS.
BUT WE OPEN THE FIRST BUILDING THAT WE WANT TO OPEN.
WE HAVE REUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO INCREASE THAT AND GO TO 1675 TO SHOW YOU, TO PROVE TO YOU THROUGH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, NEW YORK TRAFFIC ENGINEER, THAT THINGS ARE WORKING THE WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO. THE ROADS ARE NOT BEING CONGESTED. ALL THESE REQUIREMENTS, ALL OF THE STANDARDS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN LANGUAGE IN THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE AMENDMENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND THE EXHIBITS TO ESTABLISH UNSATISFIED-- SATISFY THAT IT WORKED AND ALL THESE LOCATIONS, IF AT ANY POINT ALONG THE WAY HE, IF WE ARE DOING THAT REPORTING, IT DOES NOT WORK, YOU HAVE PROTECTIONS IN YOUR AGREEMENT THAT LET YOU HOLD BUILDING PERMITS AND STOP AND CAP OUR NUMBERS UNTIL WE ADDRESS AND FIX IT. SO WE WERE NOT NEARLY AS CLEAR AS THAT TWO WEEKS AGO. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS AS CLEAR TO YOU ARE NOT. WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT THAT MUCH MORE CLEAR. TO PROVIDE SAFEGUARDS AND BELTS AND SUSPENDERS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
WE UNDERSTAND THOSE CONCERNS. IN 2018 THE AGREEMENT WAS DRAFTED THE WAY IT WAS. WITH THE LANGUAGE ON THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE THE PLANNING ZONING BOARD, AND THE MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO, AND THE NUMER OF CONVERSATIONS AND VIRTUAL MEETINGS THAT ANTHONY AND CAITLIN AND I HAVE HAD TO WORK THROUGH THE LANGUAGE, NOT JUST ON THIS ISSUE, BUT ON BUILDING THE GYMNASIUM AT THE SAME TIME, ON THE ROUNDED OUT CONDITIONS, ALL OF THESE TRIGGERS MAKE SURE THAT THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND ARE GOING TO BE OPEN AND OPERATING EFFICIENTLY SO THAT THERE IS NOT A PROBLEM. NICU AND-- SIT HERE AND TELL YOU THAT THERE WILL NEVER BE A PROBLEM? OF COURSE NOT. BUT HAVING SAFEGUARDS LIKE THIS IN PLACE ALL THE WAY UP THE LADDER TO GET TO THE NUMBER THAT WE UNDERSTAND AND ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
SO I FELT IT WAS NECESSARY TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND ESTABLISH FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING THIS EVENING THAT THERE ARE PROTECTIONS AND SAFEGUARDS AT THE CITY CAN LEAN ON AND RELY ON TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE OPERATING VERY EFFICIENTLY.
AND FOR WHATEVER REASON IF WE ARE NOT, WE CAN GO TO THAT NEXT NUMBER. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON. THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS IN THE AMENDMENT. WE ARE FURTHERING AND ADDING MORE SPECIFICS REGARDING CONTROL OFFICERS.
WE ARE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL CROSSING GUARD OBLIGATION.
THERE ARE TIMING COMMITMENTS FOR PEDESTRIAN CROSSING SIGNALS, OR FLASHERS. I MENTION FOR THE ROUNDABOUT THAT WILL REPLACE THE SIGNAL. ALL THESE THINGS ARE DESIGNED TO MAKE SURE THE SCHOOL IS WORKING EFFICIENTLY AND HAVING HIS MINIMAL IMPACT AS POSSIBLE ON THINGS IN THE CITY OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL AREA, AND CERTAINLY OUTSIDE THE A.M.- P.M. ARRIVAL FOR SCHOOL HOURS. I'M GOING TO MOVE ON, UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE. OKAY.
>> ONE CLARIFICATION. IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE LAST SLIDE, YOU ALL AGREED THAT IT IS NOW THE 1675 STUDENTS, SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE RECORD.
>> YOU ARE RIGHT. I DID NOT CHANGE IT ON THE SLIDE HERE. THE CONDITION IS NO LONGER 1700, JUST TO MAKE THINGS CONSISTENT. WE CHANGED IT FROM 1700 TO 1675.
>> BEFORE WE MOVE THIS LINE, I TAKE IT THAT THERE IS NOTHING THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY-- I DON'T THINK THE AGREEMENT CONTEMPLATES A VOTE BEFORE HE COMMISSION, BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS RAMP-UP SCHEDULE, TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE IS-- OR BEFORE THERE IS AN ANALYSIS AND APPROVAL OF GOING TO THE NEXT PHASE OF THE RAMP-UP SCHEDULE, IS THAT SOMETHING THE COMMISSION CAN BE BRIEFED ON AND DISCUSSED WITH US, A WORKSHOP OR OTHERWISE BEFORE THAT NEXT PHASE?
>> I THINK THAT STAFF COULD CERTAINLY BRIEF YOU ON WHERE THEY ARE AT IN THE PROCESS TO KEEP YOU UPDATED.
>> AND IF THERE WILL BE ISSUES PRECLUDING A RAMP UP INCREASE?
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>> I THINK THAT STAFF CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION, I
GUESS. >> ALL OF THAT STUFF WILL BE
PROVIDED TO NANCY. >> THE MONTHLY AND ANNUAL TRAFFIC REPORTS. THEY GET REVIEWED BY THE TRAFFIC
ENGINEER. >> OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS HAPPY TO COME ONCE A YEAR. YOU GUYS CAN COORDINATE WITH US, YOU GUYS CAN COME AD PROVIDE AN UPDATE IF YOU LIKE.
THE ONLY OTHER ITEM I AM GOING TO ADDRES BEFORE I PASS IT ALONG IS AN UPDATE, SINCE OUR PLANNING AND DONATING MEETING FOR OUR RESIDENTS IN THE TOWN PARK, AND THE COLLECTIVE ASSOCIATION THAT HAS SHOWN UP, THERE'S BEEN REGULAR DIALOG AND LOTS OF EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE GOING BACK AND FORWARD.
IN THE LAST FEW DAYS. LAST WEEK WE PREPARED A DRAFT LETTER AGREEMENT TO DOCUMENT SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED. JUST TRYING TO GET THE PARKING ISSUES AND THE E-BIKE AND GOLF CART ISSUES, PARENT EDUCATION, MEDIA MAINTENANCE, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS THROUGH SOME CORRESPONDENCE. ADDITIONAL COMMITMENTS, SCHOOL LIAISONS BETTER COMMUNICATION. TIMING OF EVENTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE ARE NOT AT A POINT TODAY WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO GET THERE, I COULD'VE HELD UP A PIECE OF PAPER AND SAID THERE'S AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTIES, BUT AS RECENTLY AS ABOUT 2:00 O'CLOCK THIS AFTERNOON THERE HAS BEEN BACK-AND-FORTH CONVERSATIONS TAKING PLACE, WHERE THE RESIDENTS OF MAR LAGO, AND PRINCE WILL CASTRO, I TOLD HIM TO CALL ON MY OFFICE AND HAVE US PUT TOGETHER SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT.
SOME OF THE POINTS YOU SEE THERE ON THE SCREEN BEFORE YOU, INTO A MORE FORMAL DOCUMENT. I'M MORE HOPEFUL YOU WILL HEAR FROM THOSE REPRESENTATIVES THIS EVENING, THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY AND WE APPRECIATE THERE IS OPEN DIALOG AND WERE WORKING TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND TAKING ON THE IMMEDIATE RESPONSIBILITY IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL AREA.
WE WILL ADDRESS THE COST OF T THAT, LANDSCAPING DAMAGE, TAKING OWNERSHIP AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE ISSUES BEING CREATED BY THE SCHOOL AND FURTHER REINFORCING AND ESTABLISHING THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE SCHOOL IN THE ADJACENT ASSOCIATION SO THERE IS ACTIVE COMMUNICATION GOING FORWARD.
>> HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU NEED TO FINALIZE THAT AGREEMENT.
>> IT'S 2:00 O'CLOCK THIS AFTERNOON.
MY HOPE IS THE NEXT DAY MY OFFICE WILL PRODUCE SOMETHING FOR MY CLIENT AND SHARE IT WITH THE ASSOCIATIONS.
AND ASSUMING THAT WE ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE IDEALLY IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, IT REQUIRES REVIEW AND AGREEMENT FROM ALL PARTIES.
BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE BEEN-- NOTHING THAT WE HAVE SEEN REQUESTED FROM MAR LAGO HAS BEEN PROBLEMATIC.
THEY HAVE EFFECTIVELY AGREED TO EVERYTHING.
>> JUST A QUICK QUESTION. ANY APPROVAL CONDITIONED ON THEM FINALIZING AND MEMORIALIZING THAT AGREEMENT?
>> THAT WOULDN'T BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ON THE AGENDA TIED TO IT. BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT NOTWITHSTANDING IF THAT AGREEMENT IS EXECUTED OR NOT, THERE IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL WITH THE APP-- WHICH THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO IN THE SITE PLAN ITEM, AS WELL AS THE FIRST AMENDMENT THAT REQUIRES THEM TO TAKE OVER THE HILLSBORO.
THE MAINTENANCE OF THE MEDIAN IN FRONT OF HILLSBORO.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES BROUGHT UP.
THAT'S IN BOTH THE DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT AND IN THE SITE PLAN CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
>> WE WILL NEVER BE A PART OF THAT AGREEMENT RIGHT? TO ME THAT IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WHEN WE HAD A TOLL BROTHERS PROJECT AND WE HAD TO WORK OUT THE AGREEMENT FOR THEM.
IT WAS CONDITIONED ON THEM FINALIZING THEIR AGREEMENT WITH THE HOA AND MEMORIALIZING THAT AGREEMENT.
ISN'T THIS THE SAME? >> WELL,, THERE WAS ACCESS ISSUES, AND ISSUES ABOUT THE COMMUNITY BEING WITHIN THE HOA AND THE THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE WORKED OUT MOR PRACTICALLY, SO THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COULD WORK. THE WAY IT WAS PLANNED.
I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I WOULD SEE A DISTINCTION.
>> TOUCH ON THIS ISSUE, ON THE OVERFLOW PARKING.
WHERE ARE YOU GUYS ANTICIPATING LOCATING THAT?
>> AT THE MOMENT THE ANSWER IS NOT 100% SURE, BUT I HAVE BETTER ANSWERS FOR YOU AS WELL. PRINCIPAL CASTRO TOUCHED ON THAT IN A SECOND. WE PROACTIVELY REACHED OUT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE PRINCIPAL CASTRO MAY HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE CHURCH, THE COAST COMMUNITY CHURCH A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH ON UNIVERSITY DRIVE. WE HAVE EXPLORED, CAITLIN WAS HELPFUL WITH RESEARCH, WITH THEIR NEED TO BE AN OPTION TO ENTER INTO SOME KIND OF OVERFLOW OFF-SITE PARKING AGREEMENT WITH
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PUBLIX? THE ANSWER IS PROBABLY VERY UNLIKELY. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF EXTRA PARKING THERE. THE ONLY OTHER OPTION IS TO PUT IT OUT THERE-- BOTHERED ARE JUST NO OPTIONS.THE ONLY OTHER OPTION WHEN IT'S COMPLETED WITH THE CITY WOULD BE THE WEDGE PART, AND ONE SIDE IS DONE, THEY ARE OFF AT PEAK HOURS BETWEEN SCHOOL AND PARK USE AS WELL.
SO THAT'S AN OPTION WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE.
WE ARE FULLY COMMITTED TO ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO VERY PROACTIVELY EXPLORE OFF-SITE OPTIONS.
BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR THE UPDATE FROM PRINCIPAL CASTRO.
>> GOOD EVENING. TAYLOR CASTRO FOR THE RECORD.
TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, I WAS ABLE TO MAKE CONTACT WITH VICKI BROCKMEIER-- I MISPRONOUNCING HER LAST NAME.
BRUCKHEIMER FROM COASTAL COMMUNITY.
WE SPOKE THIS AFTERNOON. SHE HIS UNDERSTANDING OF THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. SHE SHARED HOW HER AREA HAS GROWN AND THEY WILL BE MAKING SOME PARKING ADJUSTMENTS.
THEY CURRENTLY HAVE OVER 300 SPACES.
SHE DID ASK HOW MANY SPACES BUT WE ANTICIPATE.
I AM ANTICIPATING APPROXIMATELY 100 AT THIS POINT.
AND SHE STATED THAT SHE WILL BE BRINGING IT TO HER LEADERSHIP TEAM. AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE WOULD BE IN A GOOD PLACE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
>> MEANING THAT WHEN THEY ARE NOT UTILIZING THEIR LOT--
>> WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IS THAT WE WOULD BE LEASING SPACES FROM THE PROPERTY BETWEEN 7:00 A.M. AND APPROXIMATELY 4:00 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. THAT IS THE TIME WHERE THEY HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MOVEMENT THERE.
SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY MOVE FORWARD WITH.
>> HOW WOULD THE KIDS GET FROM SCHOOL AND VICE VERSA?
>> IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WILL BE ASSIGNED FOR STUDENT PARKING.
IT COULD BE ASSIGNED FOR STAFF PARKING.
WE HAVE OTHER SCHOOLS AND WE HAVE GOLF CARTS THAT PICK UP STUFF AND TAKE THEM TO THE LOCATION OF THE SCHOOL.
SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS OF MAKING THAT COME TO FRUITION.
>> RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY OUR GOLF CART IS ON HIATUS.
LET'S TAKE THAT OUT OF THE PICTURE FOR A SECOND.
LET'S SAY TEACHERS GOING PARK AT THE CHURCH.
WOULD THERE BE A SHUTTLE? >> I'M REFERRING TO A GOLFER AS MEANS OF A SHUTTLE. OR EVEN A BUS WHERE WE CAN PICK UP THE STUFF AND TAKE THEM TO THE SITE.
>> THE CITY AND IF SUMMERSIDE, IF THEY WERE TO COME TO SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT OVER PARKING, WOULD THERE BE SOME KIND OF FINANCIAL BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND THAT AGREEMENT?
>> ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN PUT TOGETHER AND AGREE ON SOME TERMS AT LEAST SOME OF THE SPACES AS WELL WHICH WOULD BE
BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY AS WELL. >> THANK YOU.
>> NO PROBLEM. >> I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.
>> SURE. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS COASTAL IS LOOKING TO EXPAND AS WELL. SO WE KNOW ALREADY IN CERTAIN TIMES THE PARKING IS REALLY CHALLENGING OVER THERE.
I ESSENTIALLY LIVE ACROSS THE STREET AND I SEE IT ALL THE TIME. BUT IF THEY EXPAND, IF THEY RAISE THAT WITH YOU ALL, AS A FUTURE POSSIBILITY, COULD IMPACT
ANY AGREEMENT YOU HAVE? >> I DID SHARE WITH HER THAT IT WOULD BE MOST LIKELY IN THE 28-29 SCHOOL YEAR IF WE NEED THOSE PARKING SPACES. THEY ARE GOING TO BE MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO PARKING, I WANT TO SAY TO INCREASE OVER 500 SPACES FROM THE CONVERSATION HER AND I HAD EARLIER TODAY.
SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT BEING IMPACTED BY THE TIME WE NEED THE
PARKING. >> I WAS TALKING ABOUT EXPANSION ON WHETHER IT BE PART OF THE CHURCH ARE POTENTIALLY
EDUCATIONAL TYPE EXPANSION? >> FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WAS NO EDUCATIONAL EXPANSION ON THE PART OF THE CHURCH.
SO IT WOULD NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE HOURS WE WOULD BE
UTILIZING THE SPACES FOR. >> I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS ARE UNDER A TIME CRUNCH, BUT THIS WAS A PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION.
>> THIS WAS A PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION.
SHE WILL TAKE IT TO HER LEADERSHIP TEAM ON MONDAY.
THAT WAS ONE OPTION. WE ARE DEFINITELY BEING DILIGENT IN TRYING TO RESOLVE ANY CONCERNS AND FEEDBACK THAT YOU ALL PROVIDED AT THE LAST MEETING.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW WERE TRYING TO BE AS PROACTIVE AS WE CAN.
WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE CITY OF
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PARKLAND. WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN ENROLLMENT PERIOD FOR THE CITY IN WHICH STUDENTS LIVING WITHIN A CERTAIN RADIUS OF THE SCHOOL, WE HAVE A ONE-MONTH LIMITED EXCLUSIVE ENROLLMENT PERIOD. OUR GOAL IS TO EXTEND THAT INTO A THREE-MONTH PROCESS. MOVING THAT FROM JANUARY 1ST TO JANUARY 31ST. AND MOVING THAT FROM NOVEMBER 1ST TO JANUARY 31ST. THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE WANT TO REACH OUT TO THE HOA'S. AND SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS.MAYBE HOST IF YOU COMMUNITY MEETING SO THEY CAN LEARN ABOUT OUR SCHOOL AS WELL AND PROVIDE SOME TOURS TO PARKLAND FAMILIES WITHIN THAT TIME PERIOD OF THE ENROLLMENT PROCESS.
WITHIN THE LAST THREE YEARS 100% OF THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE APPLIED FROM PARKLAND HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED IN GRADES KINDREE THROUGH SIX, THE GRADE LEVELS WHERE WE TYPICALLY HAVE MORE OPENINGS AND SEATS AVAILABLE, SINCE WE'VE BEEN EXISTENCE-- IN EXISTENCE FOR SIX YEARS. WE RECEIVE 100 APPLICATIONS YEARLY FROM PARKS AND RESIDENTS. AND WHERE WE SEE THE MOST DEMAND, AND ONE OF THE MANY REASONS WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING, IS BECAUSE 50% OF OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL IS CURRENTLY FROM PARKLAND FAMILIES. WHEN WE LOOK OVERALL, I KNOW WE SHARE A DIFFERENT NUMBER, THAT'S WHEN WE LOOK AT K-8.
BUT WE NOTICE AN INCREASE IN PARKLAND FAMILIES, BUT MOSTLY IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL GRADES. AND I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE THERE LOOKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL OPTION.
AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL THERE ARE THREE OTHER ADDITIONAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT ARE ALL PHENOMENAL.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO MIDDLE SCHOOL, THEY DO A PHENOMENAL JOB AS WELL. BUT WE ARE PROVIDING THEM ANOTHER EDUCATIONAL OPTION, AND WITH THAT SAID WE CAN PREDICT THAT IT WOULD LOOK PRETTY SIMILAR WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL, CONSIDERING MSD IS THE ONLY SCHOOL IN THE CITY.
ON OUR CAMPUS, WE ARE A HIGH-PERFORMING CHARTER SCHOOL WHO OFFERS CAMBRIDGE PROGRAMS, AND WE WERE THE FIRST SCHOOL IN THE CITY TO OFFER THE CAMBRIDGE PROGRAM.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN EXTENDED. TO MSD, IT WOULD PROVIDE DUAL ENROLLMENT, AND EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS FOR OUR STUDENTS.
WITH THAT SAID ON YOUR SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE OUR STUDENTS HAVE ALREADY EARNED OVER 450 CREDITS FOR COLLEGE AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL. OUR INDUSTRY CERTIFICATION, YOU WILL SEE THERE IS A LIST OF COURSES THAT ARE BEING OFFERED, AS WELL AS ATHLETICS. WE'VE HAD DISTRICT CHAMPIONS, WE HAD GOLF THIS YEAR, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO AT THE REQUEST OF WHAT OUR STUDENTS WANT AND ARE LOOKING TO PURSUE.
I KNOW THAT BASED ON SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE HAD, WE DISCUSSED SECURITY AND OPERATIONS.
AND I FELT-- SORRY. THANK YOU.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. I KNOW THAT SECURITY AND SAFETY HAS BEEN A CONCERN. AS WELL AS THE OPERATIONS OF IT ALL, CONSIDERING WE ARE REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN STUDENT ENROLLMENT. I WANT TO SHARE THAT CURRENTLY IN OUR CAMPUS WE HAVE 80 CAMERAS ON CAMPUS, TWO SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS, AND AS THE BUILDINGS ARE COMING OUT OF THE GROUND, WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ADDING MORE ADDITIONAL CAMERAS AND SUPERVISION. I THINK THAT THAT IS-- WE PRIDE OURSELVES IN SECURITY. AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE VISITED THE CAMPUS, ESPECIALLY DURING SCHOOL HOURS, IT'S CHALLENGING TO BE ABLE TO COME IN TO OUR SCHOOL.
ASIDE FROM BEING THE-- ONE OF THE FEW SCHOOLS WITH AN ELECTRIC GATE OUT FRONT. YOU CANNOT EVEN PASS THAT PART OF THE BUILDING. OF THE FACILITY, WITHOUT HAVING A SECURITY CHECKPOINT. I AM CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE ONE OF THE SAFEST SCHOOLS.
I KNOW THAT WITH THAT SAID, WE TALKED A BIT ABOUT OPERATIONALLY HOW THIS WORKS. I KNOW IT MIGHT BE CHALLENGING TO UNDERSTAND OR TO-- FOR ME TO CLEARLY STATE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN FIVE OR TEN YEARS. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE WOULD BE IN 2026 IN 2018. BUT WE DO USE A CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT LEADERSHIP MODEL. OUR STAFF IS WELL-INFORMED.
WE HOLD MONTHLY MEETINGS TO GO OVER OPERATIONS, PROCESSES, SO
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WE CAN BE AS EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE.THIS DOCUMENT I HAVE HERE IS PROVIDED TO OUR STAFF AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY SCHOOL YEAR. THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. OUR SCHOOL CALENDAR WITH ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS ARE PLANNED OVER THE SUMMER.
SO WE ARE NOT GOING AS THE MONTH GOES BY.
WE PLAN AHEAD SO WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE HAVE PROCEDURES AND POLICIES IN PLACE. CALENDARS FOR THE ENTIRE SCHOOL YEAR ARE ALREADY PROVIDED. SO EVEN WHEN IT COMES TO TALKING ABOUT CONFLICT BETWEEN EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO IT'S HARD TO SCHEDULE SOMETHING AT THE TIME.
THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A CALENDAR PROVIDED TO EVERYBODY KNOWING THERE ARE DATES AND TIMES OF THE EVENTS.
WITH THAT, WE DO MEET MONTHLY AS A TEAM, NOT JUST THE ENTIRE STAFF, BUT AS A LEADERSHIP TEAM, AND OUR TEAM LEADERS, AS FAR AS TEACHER LEADERS AS WELL, BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK. SEE HOW PROCESSES ARE GOING AND HOW WE WILL EXECUTE THEM GOING FORWARD.
SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT WOULD BE-- AND I'M GOING TO START THIS NEXT WEEK, WE LIKE TO DO THINGS AHEAD OF TIME.
SO WE KNOW THAT THE CONSTRUCTION WILL POTENTIALLY IMPACT THE UNIVERSITY, WE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS NEXT WEEK, SO WE CAN PUT PRACTICES IN PLACE WHY? WE HAVE THE MAJORITY OF OUR ENROLLMENT AND FAMILIES ALREADY ON BOARD.
THEY ARE THERE AND USED TO OUR PRACTICES.
LET'S ADJUST IT WITH THEM. LET'S TEST OUT THE SERIES AND SEE HOW IT GOES. AND LET'S DECIDE IF WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IN PREPARATION WITH WHAT'S TO COME IN AUGUST.
WE DON'T WANT TO DO THOSE CHANGES AND ADJUSTMENTS WHEN THE SCHOOL YEAR STARTED, BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT THE FIRST FEW WEEKS OF SCHOOL LOOKS LIKE WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC.
WE TRY TO BE PROACTIVE AND DO THINGS AHEAD OF TIME.
WE DID IT LAST YEAR AS WELL WHERE WE CHANGE THE LOCATION, THAT WE TESTED IT OUT THE LAST TWO OR THREE WEEKS OF SCHOOL, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCESS WAS GOING TO WORK.
WE GOT FEEDBACK AND EXECUTED IT. SO THERE IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE A CHECKS AND BALANCES WITHIN OUR TEAM.
I SPEAK TO BRIAN, WHENEVER WE SEE A METER OR A CONCERN, SOMETIMES WE JUST MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT OURSELVES.
BECAUSE WE SEE INTERNALLY WHAT IS HAPPENING.
AND OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THE SMOOTHEST POSSIBLE-- NOT JUST TRAFFIC WISE, BUT CAMPUS THAT WE CAN, UP-- ACADEMICALLY.
AND FOR OUR FAMILIES, THE LEAST HEADACHES WE CAN GIVE YOU ALL, THE BETTER AND HAPPIER EVERYONE ELSE WILL BE.
I LISTED SOME EXAMPLES OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST WHEN IT COMES TO SCHOOL ACTIVITIES.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE VISITED WINTER SUMMER LAND, I KNOW TWO OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE MAYOR WAS THERE THIS PAST DECEMBER, OUR SCHOOL WAS FULL.
THERE WAS PLENTY OF FAMILIES OUT WITH FOOD TRUCKS, ACTIVITIES, AND TRAFFIC WAS NOT A CONCERN. EVERYTHING WAS KEPT WITHIN OUR SCHOOL FACILITY. THERE WAS NO PARKING OUTSIDE.
WE SELL PARKING TICKETS FOR CARS AND FOR GOLF CARTS WHEN WE PARK THEM. WE MANNED THE STATIONS WITH PERSONNEL TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS NO SPILLAGE ANYWHERE.
SO I WANTED TO SHOW SOME EXAMPLES.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PUT IN TO PRACTICE. TO MOVE ON TO THE PROVEN BENEFITS OF THE KINGSVILLE CAMPUS, I THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO HOPEFULLY GET EVERYONE ON BOARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS ABOUT BEING A FAMILY, A LONG-TERM FAMILY.
THIS IS AVOIDING TRANSITIONS, FOR SOME CHILDREN IT'S WONDERFUL, FOR OTHERS, THEY MAY NEED TO BE IN THE SAME PLACE NHK THROUGH 12 SETTING. -- IN A K-12 SETTING.
IT'S PROVEN THAT THERE IS A REDUCTION IN LEARNING LOSS.
WHY? BECAUSE WE ARE GOING AND BUILDING FROM WITHIN. WE GET TO KNOW OUR STUDENTS FROM WHEN THEY ARE LITTLE. AND WE START BUILDING THEM.
THEY ARE HOMEGROWN. AND WHEN I SAY THAT IT'S BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY PROVEN. IF WE LOOK AT OUR DATA FROM WHEN WE FIRST OPENED, OUR SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL DATA AND COMPARE TO OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL DATA TODAY, IT IS MIND-BLOWING.
THE PROGRESS AND THE LEARNING GAINS THAT OUR STUDENTS HAVE MADE BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
SO THERE IS PROOF TO THAT CONCEPT, AND I AM HOPING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THAT ON THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL.
WE DO SEE FEWER DISCIPLINARY ISSUES THAN OUR TYPICAL SCHOOLS, BECAUSE OF THE SAME CONCEPT. THEY ARE USED TO OUR EXPECTATIONS. THEY KNOW WHAT IS-- WHAT IT IS TO BE A SOMERSET PARKLAND COWBOY.
AND IT IS NOT THE SAME WHEN YOU ARE TRANSITIONING FROM ONE SCHOOL TO THE OTHER. AND NOW LEARNING A BRAND-NEW SET OF RULES, AFFECTATIONS FROM ONE SCHOOL TO THE NEXT.
IT IS ALL EMBEDDED WITHIN THE SAME SCHOOL.
OUR K TO 12 VISION IS TO DEFINITELY CONTINUE ELEVATING
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THE ACADEMICS. BUT NOT JUST THE ACADEMICS, THEIR ENTIRE EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE.AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE SOME STUDENTS GRADUATING WITH THEIR AA EVEN BEFORE THEIR HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION.
SOMEWHAT THEIR BACHELOR'S DEGREES.
WE ARE-- WE KNOW OUR STUDENTS WILL CONTINUE THEIR PATHWAY FROM AP IN CAMBRIDGE SO THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EARN THOSE SCHOLARSHIPS, AND HOPEFULLY ONE DAY THEY CAN BE UP HERE RECEIVING SOME OF THE SCHOLARSHIPS THAT YOU ALL HANDED OUT EARLIER THIS EVENING. THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL TO SEE.
WE DO-- WE BELIEVE THAT IN ADDITION TO THE COLLEGE TRACK WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO OFFER MORE CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS. THE EARLY CHILDHOOD ONE IS ONE THAT PARTICULARLY FOR ME, I FEEL IS IMPORTANT IN A K TO 12 SETTING BECAUSE IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO EMBEDDED WITHIN OUR SCHOOL. WE HAVE SOME EXAMPLES AS FAR AS EMR AS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY. AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE ATHLETICS, WE OFFER A PLETHORA OF THEM ALREADY, CONSIDERING THAT THEY ARE K TO EIGHT AND THEY ONLY HAVE 276 MIDDLE SCHOOLERS. BUT WE PLAN TO OFFER ADDITIONAL SPORTS. HERE IS A LOOK AT FULL CAMPUS COURSE OFFERINGS WE ARE ANTICIPATING TO HAVE BY THE TIME WE HAVE OUR FIRST CLASS. I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM. BUT I WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK.
THIS IS NOT JUST WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING OFFERED, BUT WHAT THE VISION IS MOVING FORWARD.
AND A LOT OF THIS IS DRIVEN BY OUR STUDENT BODY.
SO THIS IS A PRESENTATION AND I'M SHARING WITH YOU WHAT THE FULL CAMPUS COURSE OFFERINGS COULD LOOK LIKE.
COULD THERE BE ADJUSTMENTS TO COURSES, ABSOLUTELY, BASED ON WHAT OUR STUDENT NEEDS AND WANTS OUR.
AND WITH THAT SAID, I WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE VIEW OF WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE A MEMBER OF SOMERSET PARKLAND ACADEMY K TO
12. >> BEFORE THE VIDEO PLAYS, I AM THE ARCHITECT FOR THIS PROJECT AND I'M HAPPY TO BE A PART OF THIS AMAZING PROJECT. WHAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE RIGHT NOW IS A QUICK TOUR OF THE CAMPUS.
WE DECIDED THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEEDED TO DO WAS SHOW YOU SOME OF THE DETAILS OF WHAT IS WITHIN AND WITHOUT THIS CAMPUS, SO THERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MULTIPURPOSE BASE, THE UPPER SCHOOL. WITH THE SEPARATE LUNCHROOM, SEPARATE KITCHEN, ET CETERA. WE ARE NOW GOING TO SORT OF COME AROUND FROM THE EAST ALONG THE NORTH AND LOOKING BACK SOUTH.
THERE IS THE ACADEMIC BUILDING FOR THE UPPER SCHOOL WITH THE ACTIVITY THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN A BIT, AS WE SORT OF COME TOWARDS THE WEST, AND NOW YOU WILL SEE A VIEW OF THE PARKING SPACES INSIDE THAT BUILDING. THERE IS THE GYMNASIUM.
THE GYM HAS A CAMPUS CENTER, AND EXTERNAL INTERESTS FOR ADVANCE FROM THE PARKING AREAS. AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO FLY YOU IN TO THE GYMNASIUM, AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THE USERS-- THIS IS QUITE AN IMPORTANT. THERE IS A RUNNING TRACK AT THE TOP. VIEWS OF THE LAKE THERE.
LOOKING NORTH. AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK-- COME BACK AND CONNECT. AS WE MENTIONED IN OTHER DISCUSSIONS, THIS CAMPUS IS ALL CONNECTED BY A SERIES OF PATHWAYS AROUND THE OUTER PERIMETER OF THE CAMPUS.
WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL. THIS IS THE CENTRAL COURTYARD THAT BRINGS THE WHOLE CAMPUS TOGETHER IN THE CENTER.
AND YOU SEE THE MULTIPURPOSE SPACING, A BASKETBALL COURT ON THE LEFT AND A SMALL SOCCER PITCH IN THE CENTER.
AND AN OVERVIEW OF THE CAMPUS. AND I THOUGHT THAT I WOULD BE THROWN IN THE MIX WHILE THE VIDEO IS PLAYING.
I'M DOING MY BEST. I'M READING FROM THE STATISTICS FROM OUR STUDENT, OUR ALMA MATER THAT WE WILL NEVER SEE PITCH AND ENDING. I BELIEVE WITH A COMMIT-- I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON THAT POINT.
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CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. AGAIN, I FOUNDED THIS COMPANY IN 2004. BUT WE ARE NOW ON OUR 22ND YEAR OF EXCLUSIVELY WORKING ON EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES, PRIMARILY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE FOLKS IN SOMERSET AND ALL THEIR AFFILIATED NETWORK SCHOOLS FOR THOSE 22 YEARS.
SO OVER 1 MILLION AND A HALF SQUARE FEET OF EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES OUT THERE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO STRESS IS THAT WE LISTENED INTENTLY AT THE LAST MEETING AND I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED BY SCOTT EARLIER THAT THAT MEETING HELPED US REALIZE THAT THERE WERE ASPECTS OF THIS PROJECT THAT NEEDED TO BE FURTHER EXPLAINED AND FURTHER DISCUSSED. THERE WAS ALL THE TECHNICALITIES OF THE FIVE ITEMS BEFORE YOU AND SO ON.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE FELT IS THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU ALL BASICALLY HELPED US CRAFT THIS PRESENTATION.
WE HEARD FROM EACH OF YOU SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS AND OBSERVATIONS. AND I HOPE TO ADDRESS THOSE TONIGHT AND MY PRESENTATION. YOU WILL HEAR A LOT ABOUT WE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE. YOU WILL HEAR A LOT ABOUT HOW WE HAVE SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF THIS. AND I WILL SHOW THEM TO YOU.
BOWLBY UNDERSTAND AND WE REALIZE THAT THE MOST UNIQUE PROJECT IS THE ONE THAT YOU CARE ABOUT MOST.
THIS ONE. THERE IS NO OTHER K TO 12 CAMPUS NEXT TO TOWN PART, THERE IS NO K-12 CAMPUS NEXT TO TRAN-- MIRA LAGO. THERE IS NO ON THE CORNER OF HILLSBOROUGH AND UNIVERSITY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING OVER HERE WITH YOUR STAFF, AND AS YOU HEARD IT BEFORE, CAITLIN IS A STALWART ADVOCATE FOR YOUR CODE, FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND YOUR CITY.
AND I THINK THAT THE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY-- AS DETAILED AS THOSE CONVERSATIONS WERE OVER THE COURSE OF ABOUT A YEAR, THEY HELPED US MAKE THE PROJECT BETTER.
SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND I HOPE THAT SOME OF THAT YOU WILL SEE, TO UNDERSCORE THE FACT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A UNIQUE PROJECT AND PARKLAND. REGARDING THE OTHER ASPECTS YOU WILL SEE. SO IF I JUST GO RIGHT ARROW, I GUESS? YES.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO START WITH IS THE PROGRAMMING.
YOU HEARD FROM PRINCIPAL CASTRO HOW THEY CRAFTED A RATHER SOPHISTICATED CURRICULUM TOWARDS NOT JUST THE K TO EIGHT BUT LOOKING FORWARD TO THE COLLEGE READINESS ENVIRONMENT THEY WANT TO CREATE WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL. WE WORK WITH PRINCIPAL CASTRO AND HER STAFF QUITE INTENTLY AND OVER THE COURSE OF MANY MONTHS TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE DESIGNED THIS BUILDING IT'S NOT A COOKIE-CUTTER PROJECT. THIS PROJECT IS UNIQUE TO THIS SITE. IT'S UNIQUE TO PARKLAND AND SOMERSET AND PARKLAND. WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU THERE IS YOU SEE SOME OF THE PROBLEMATIC ASPECTS OF THE CAMPUS.
I WANTED TO TOUCH ON A FEW. TOP LEFT CORNER.
YOU SEE THE GYMNASIUM IN GREEN THERE.
IT IS A FULL-COURT HIGH SCHOOL REGULATION SIZE BASKETBALL COURT. VOLLEYBALL AS WELL WITH BLEACHERS ON FULL-SIZE. AREAS FOR ATHLETES AND RESTROOMS. THERE'S A DANCE STUDIO, A FITNESS STUDIO ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF THAT BUILDING.
.CA TWO STORY SECTION OF THE GYM AND I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER IN TERMS OF PROXIMITY TO THE TOWN PARK.
MOVING OVER UC BERKELEY PARKING THE PARKING IS, THAT IS THE FOOTPRINT OF THE UPPER SCHOOL ACADEMIC BUILDING.
THAT'S A MULTILEVEL BUILDING THAT HAS THE ACTIVITY DECK AND ALL OF THE CLASSROOMS, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THE CLASSROOMS. BUT ALSO CONCEALING THOSE 35 PARKING SPACES. YOU DON'T SEE THEM FROM THE STREET OR THE PARKING LOT. MIRA LAGO DOES NOT SEE THEM.
THEY ARE CONCEALED IN THE FACADE.
AND I'M HAPPY TO PLAY THE VIDEO AGAIN WITH A LITTLE MORE TIME, IF YOU WOULD LIKE. BUT THE PCC BELOW THAT IS THE MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING. THAT IS BUILDING SEE, THE FIRST BUILDING THAT WOULD BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND THAT HAS THE WASHROOM FOR THE UPPER SCHOOL, SEPARATE FROM THE LOWER SCHOOL. AND A PART OF THAT SPACES A SMALL STAGE AREA ATTACHED TO THE DRAMA ROOM THERE THAT USE EITHER. AND THERE ARE POSSIBILITIES
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THERE AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES AND AFTER-HOURS EVENTS TO ADD SMALL PERFORMANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.THAT SPACE LOOKS OUT INTO THE-- INTERNAL COURTYARD.
AT THAT POINT I WANT TO PAUSE A BIT AND TALK A BIT ABOUT HOW THE DESIGN OF THIS BUILDING AND CRAFTING OF IT TO-- LET'S SAY DELIVER ON ALL OF THE PROMISES IN TERMS OF THE CURRICULUM, WE LOOK AT SAFETY AND SECURITY. WHAT THIS IS ALLOWING US TO DO, WITH THE LAST VERSION OF THE PROJECT APPROVED IS IT'S ALLOWING US TO CREATE AN INSULAR COURTYARD THAT IS SAFE DURING THE DAY. ALL ACTIVITY, ALL CIRCULATION OCCURS WITHIN THE BUILDING, AROUND THE PERIPHERY OF THE COURTYARD ANDTHE RECREATIONAL SPACES FOR BOTH THE YOUNGER KIDS AND THE ELEVATED ACTIVITY THAT OCCURS IN A SAFE PLACE WHETHER IT BE ON THE GROUND OR ELSEWHERE.
THESE ARE TWO BUILDINGS, IT'S TWO COMING TOGETHER TO CREATE THAT INTERNAL COURTYARD. WHICH IS AT THE HEART OF THIS
CAMPUS. >> BEFORE YOU GO TO ANOTHER SLIDE, HOW MANY CLASSROOMS ARE IN THE UPPER SCHOOL?
>> WE WILL GET THAT NUMBER IN A SECOND.
SECOND FLOOR, THE SECOND LEVEL OF THIS CAMPUS, THERE UCD 30 THE 35 CLASSROOMS THERE. ON THE TOP, LET'S START WITH THE GYMNASIUM, YOU SEE THE RUNNING TRACK, TOP OF THE CORNER.
THERE IS TD PRODUCTION SUITE. ONE OF THE IMPORTANT CLASSROOM-- ELEMENTS WE INCLUDE IN GYMNASIUM SETTINGS.
ALLOWING STUDENTS TO PRODUCE PROGRAMS LIFESTREAM SPORTING EVENTS AND SO ON. HAVING THAT ADJACENCY TO THE GYM IS IMPORTANT. WE HAVE RECOVERY HEALTH TRAINING SPACE, A BAND ROOM. THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT THOSE KIND OF FUNCTIONS, WEIGHT TRAINING AND FITNESS ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
THAT IS A UNIQUE PIECE TO THE CAMPUS, ALL CONNECTED BY VIRTUAL COVERED WALKWAYS AND SO ON. IN THIS CASE TO THE EAST TOWARDS THE ACADEMIC BUILDING, WHERE YOU SEE REGULAR CLASSROOMS, YOU SEE ANATOMY, ART, CHEMISTRY. AND WE ARE STILL FLESHING OUT A FEW OTHER SPECIFIC ACADEMIC SPACES WITH PRINCIPAL CASTRO.
WE HAVE COLLEGE PREP AND DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU SEE THE MULTIPURPOSE BUILDINGS AND THE POT OF CLASSROOMS TO THE SOUTH OF THAT. THESE BUILDINGS ARE INTERCONNECTED, BUT THEY ARE A-- FROM THE STANDPOINT OF RESTROOMS, OFFICE SPACE AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR SECURITY TOGETHER AROUND THIS COURTYARD, THERE IS OPERATIONAL INDEPENDENCE. AND THAT'S HOW WE DO IT.
IT'S A HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL ZONING OF THE LOWER SCHOOL AND THE UPPER SCHOOL. AND I THINK THAT IT'S NOT ONLY OUR FACILITIES EXPERIENCE, BUT SOMERSET'S EXPERIENCE WITH THESE TYPES OF ENVIRONMENTS, I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE KNOW HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK. I JUST WANTED TO SHOW A FEW SLIDES OF TV PRODUCTIVE-- OF PRODUCTION AREAS AND SPOTS THAT DOUBLE AS LUNCHROOMS AND PERFORMING SPACES AS USE EITHER AT THE TOP. A BAND ROOM AT THE BOTTOM THERE.
A BIOMED SCIENCE CHEMISTRY LAB. COLLEGE READINESS, CONVENTIONAL SCIENCE LABS, AND DIGITAL PRODUCTION.
AT EACH SPACE, THEY ARE QUITE UNIQUE ESTHETICALLY AND FUNCTIONALLY. THEY ARE NOT COOKIE-CUTTER CLASSROOMS. THEY ARE JUST CONVERTED OR FURNISHED ANYWAY TO BE A SCIENCE LAB.
THESE ARE STATE-OF-THE-ART ROOMS THAT ARE DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT USE. DANCE ON THE LEFT, AND A FITNESS AND TRAINING ROOM ON THE RIGHT. THE GYMNASIUM IS THE THING I WANTED TO STRESS, ABOUT THE GYM. ONE IN PARTICULAR, LEFT AND
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RIGHT ARE THE SAME FACILITY AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS THAT SAME FACILITY. THE AMOUNT OF NATURAL LIGHT WE WANT TO INCORPORATE INTO THE SPACES IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE WANT THESE TO BE UPLIFTING SPACES, NOT JUST FOR SPORTING EVENTS, BUT OTHER TYPES OF ACTIVITIES AT THE SCHOOL MAY HAVE WITH ACTIVITIES, WHETHER THAT'S A SPECIAL MEETING WITH STUDENTS, OR OTHERS. THERE SO MANY ADDITIONAL WAYS THAT THEY ARE USED. SO NATURAL LIGHT THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY, BUT IN PARTICULAR HERE, AND IN THIS CASE WE HAVE THIS AMAZING VIEW TO THE LAKE. THERE IS ANOTHER SOMERSET SCHOOL ON THE BOTTOM LEFT DOWN IN THE HOMESTEAD AREA.AND I WANTED TO SHOW HOW WHAT YOU MIGHT NOTICE THERE, IS THAT WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH ACQUISITIONS AND ENGINEERS TO MITIGATE SOUND. THERE IT'S BOTH IN THE CEILING AND ON THE WALLS. THERE ARE ACOUSTIC PANELS THAT ARE INSTALLED FROM DAY ONE. AND THAT GOES FOR THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS USE SO IN THE VIDEO.
AND THAT LEADS ME TO THIS. ANOTHER POINT THAT CAME UP IN THE LAST MEETING. WHICH IS WHAT IS THAT WORLD THERE ON THE WEST SIDE TOWARDS TOWN PARK.
AND THE ISSUE OF NOISE. WE KNOW YOU HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE. WHAT YOU SEE AT THE TOP IS A DRAWING THAT ILLUSTRATES THE SEPARATION THAT EXISTS BETWEEN THE EASTERNMOST WALL OF THAT PARTIULAR TOWNHOUSE TO IT'S PROPERTY LINE IN TO THE WINDOW WALL OF THE GYM.
THE GYM IS SCALED-BACK. THERE IS A ONE-STORY COMPONENT, AND THEN THE TWO STORY WHERE THE GYM IS FACING WEST.
AND THAT'S TYPICALLY 77 FEET. THERE ARE STABLE PALMS ALREADY THERE, AND PART OF THE REQUIREMENT BY STAFF WAS TO ENHANCE AND CREATE A ROBUST BUFFER OF LANDSCAPING.
YEO-- SO YOU'LL SEE THERE'S TWO SPECIES OF TREES THAT WE ARE ASKED TO INSTALL THEIR TO CREATE EVEN MORE BUFFERING BOTH VISUALLY AND FOR SOUND. BUT WE WANT TO STEP FURTHER.
-- WE WENT A STEP FURTHER. IS A CONVERSATION OF IF YOU'RE ON THE RUNNING TRACK AND YOU SEE THE WINDOWS FACING WEST, WHAT HAPPENS THERE. OF SOME BY STOPS ON THE RUNNING TRACK, MOSTLY ACTIVITIES ARE DOWN AT GROUND LEVEL AT THE GYM.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THAT PROPOSAL TO LEAVE IT, HALF OF IT WILL HAVE A CODING-- COATING. SO WHILE THE NATURAL LINE GETS IN, THERE IS STILL AN ABILITY AT I LEVEL TO LOOK OUT.
AND EVEN WITHOUT THAT, SIGHTLINES IN THE DISTANCE ARE IN OUR FAVOR IN THAT REGARD. BUT ON THE RIGHT SIDE THERE SOME TECHNICAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE WALLS OF THE GYMS AND HOW WE DO GYMS. AND INSTALLATIONS IN ADDITION TO THE SOUND PANELS. BUT BETWEEN THE LAST MEETING AND THIS ONE, WE REACHED OUT TO OUR ENGINEER.
WE GAVE THEM BE SPECIFICATIONS OF THE DISTANCES AND THE GYMNASIUM THAT WE ARE DESIGNING. AND NOT JUST WHAT'S INSIDE THE GYM, BUT WHAT'S OUTSIDE THE GYM. MEANING THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S ON THE ROOF. THERE IS ONE UNIT, OR TWO FULL-- SMALL UNITS AT FEET DOWN INTO THE GYMNASIUM.
THEY ARE CENTERED ON THE WIDTH OF THAT GYM, WHICH IS ABOUT 80 FEET WIDE. WHILE AWAY FROM THE WEST PROPERTY LINE, AND NOT VISIBLE. THAT GENERATES SOUND.
SO WE DID A REPORT, AND THE PEACE AT THE BOTTOM THAT YOU SEE THERE IS AN EXCERPT OF THAT REPORT.
THE THREE COMMENTS IN THE CENTER ARE BASED ON TIME OF DAY.
I THINK IT 60 DECIBELS-- SORRY. 60 DECIBELS IN THE DAYTIME.
55 IS THE MAX. AT THE PROPERTY LINE AT NIGHT, ON THE RIGHT HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, WE ARE AT-- DURING THE DAY AT HALF CAPACITY. SO OF PHYSICAL EDUCATION CLASS,
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THERE ARE NO SPECTATORS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.HALF CAPACITY WE ARE AT 40 ENMAX COMBAT-- CAPACITY WE ARE AT 40.
WHILE UNDER THE THRESHOLD IN YOUR CODE.
WE FEEL QUITE CONFIDENT THAT THAT ASPECT OF IT IS COVERED AND WILL NOT BE A DETRIMENT TO THE FOLKS IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST.
I WILL SAY THE REASON FOR THE WINDOWS IS NOT JUST NATURAL LIGHT. I THINK THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT.
BUT WE DIDN'T WANT FOLKS IN TOWN PARK TO BE LOOKING OUTDOORS NCA BLANK WALL. SO THE WINDOWS ARE IMPORTANT.
THEY HAVE SUNSHADE AT THE TOP. AND WE THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A SORT OF BALANCE OF SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANYONE SORT OF LOOK IN. WE DEALT WITH THAT, AND WE DON'T WANT TO GET RID OF THE WINDOWS WITH THE WINDOWS WE HAVE ON THAT SIDE. VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PROJECT.
OBVIOUSLY I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK TO THE SLIDE.
>> 'S ARIA SLIDE FOR THE NORTH END, OR IS IT THE SAME THING WHERE YOU WILL CROSS THE WINDOWS ON ONE SIDE.
>> ON THE NORTH END WE DON'T HAVE DIRECT-- BECAUSE OF THE LATE CUTS. WE DON'T HAVE A DIRECT VIEW DOWN TO ANYONE. SO IMPORTANT NOT TO HAVE TO DO THAT SO THAT PEOPLE IN THE GYM CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE WATER AND NOT JUST SEE AN OPAQUE SURFACE. WE ARE HAPPY TO REVISIT THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW HOPEFULLY THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD LAND ON THAT.
THE CONCEPT OF THE ACTIVITY THAT WAS THE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION LAST TIME, AND I WANTED TO STRESS, OBVIOUSLY IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS IN GREAT DETAIL, BECAUSE SEVERAL OF YOU BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION OF HOW DOES THAT WORK IN TERMS OF SAFETY AND OTHER THINGS. WE HAVE DONE MANY OF THESE.
CANDIDATES FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS THAT WE SEE THEM BECOME MORE AND MORE POPULAR, NOT JUST BECAUSE LAND IS AT A PREMIUM, AND GROUND LEVEL, AND CREATING GREEN OPERA SERVICES OF BUILDINGS IS A GOOD THING FROM A SUSTAINABILITY POINT OF VIEW, FROM A VISUAL POINT OF VIEW. YOU DON'T HAVE THE ROOFS WITH DRAINAGE ON THINGS LIKE THAT. ALL OF THAT IS STILL THERE.
BUT IT'S CONCEALED. BUT WE SEE IT ALSO AS AN ASPECT OF SECURITY. EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE SPACE, THEY LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE A SECURE ENVIRONMENT FOR CHILDREN.
AND I'M GOING TO GO INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT VIEW THAT YOU SEE THERE, IT'S A SCHOOL THAT IS ACTUALLY IN THIS CASE A-- THE FIFTH LEVEL OF THE BUILDING AND THIS ACTIVITY DECK IS USED ALL THE TIME. I WANTED TO GET INTO THE SPECIFIC DETAILS OF ONE RECENT ONE WE DID IN CENTRAL FLORIDA.
THIS IS A CORNERSTONE ACADEMY, IT'S A JUNIOR LEVEL K5 BUILDING.
THE ACTIVITY DECK IS UP ON THAT. YOU SEE ON THE LEFT, THE PLAN FROM ABOVE, THE ACTIVITY DECK AREA.
YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THE PICTURE OR VIDEO IN A SECOND.
YOU HAVE ALL OF THE SAME REQUIREMENTS ON THIS LEVEL THAT YOU WOULD AT ANY ASSEMBLY SPACE IN THE BUILDING.
RESTROOMS. DRINKING FOUNTAINS, SHADED AREA.
IN THIS CASE THE SCHOOL HAS YET TO PUT THE SAILS-- I'M NOT SAYING THERE GOING TO SEE THAT. BUT IT'S DESIGNED STRUCTURALLY FOR SUPPORTING SHADE STRUCTURES. AND IT HAS A VERY TALL-- CERTAINLY TALLER THAN REQUIRED PYRAMID HEIGHTS.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT DOES ARE SCREENED.
THERE IS A MESS APPLIED TO THAT SURFACE.
BUT TO CREATE THAT SENSE OF ENCLOSURE.
AND THAT MASH IS A PRODUCT THAT IS VERY STRONG BUT ALSO VERY TRANSPARENT. ON THE RIGHT YOU SEE THE SECTION THAT SHOWS YOU HOW TO NAVIGATE THIS.
YOU HAVE THREE VERTICAL CORRIDORS HERE, STAIRS AND THE ELEVATOR COURT OR, WHICH STACKS ACCORDINGLY.
I THINK THIS IS THE VIEW OF THAT PROJECT.
THIS IS A VIEW OF THAT PROJECT IN CENTRAL FLORIDA, YOU SEE HOW IT'S USED, YOU SEE THE MASH AND SO ON.
YOU SEE THE ELEVATOR COURT OR IN THE MIDDLE.
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TOP LEFT ARE THE STAIRS AND BOTTOM LEFT IS THE OTHER STAIR.THIS IS A TOUR BY THE STUDENTS. THERE IS THE ELEVATOR LEADING TO THE TOP. THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE YOU UP THE STAIRS, I BELIEVE THEY SPED THIS UP.
THEN YOU'RE GOING TO COME OUT ON TO THE SHADED AREA.
IN THE LOBBY THERE WITH THE RESTROOMS, STORAGE AND DRINKING FOUNTAINS, AND THERE YOU SEE THE ELEVATED ACTIVITY DECK.
THIS IS JUST LAST WEEK SINCE WE ARE-- SINCE OUR MEETING.
THIS IS A MULTI-BUILDING CAMPUS. THIS IS THE K5 COMPONENT.
ON THE TOP RIGHT YOU SEE THE GYM UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
WE HAVE THE SMALLER KIDS ON THE GROUND LEVEL.
AND IN THE K5 THE OLDER ELEMENTARY KIDS ARE USING THE ACTIVITY DECK. THIS IS ANOTHER TOOL THAT WE DID RECENTLY. CORNERSTONE IS THE K TO 12 CAMPUS. THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING IS THE K5 BUILDING. [INDISCERNIBLE]
>> YEAH, MULTIPLE BUILDINGS ON THIS CAMPUS.
[INDISCERNIBLE] >> YOU'RE SAYING WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THE CORNERSTONE CAMPUS? CORNERSTONE CAMPUS IS A LARGE CAMPUS WITH A FOOTBALL FIELD AND A BASEBALL FIELD THAN A SOFTBALL FIELD. YOU HAVE THAT ACREAGE IN MULTIPLE BUILDINGS. IT WAS INITIALLY A CHURCH THAT OWNED THE PROPERTY AND HAD A SCHOOL, AND OVER TIME THE CITY HAD ACQUIRED PROPERTY AND OPENED THE CHARTER SCHOOL OF SUPPORTS.
AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.
THE BUILDING IN THE FOREGROUND WITH AN AIR-CONDITIONING UNIT UNIT WAS AN EXISTING K5. ON THE TOP RIGHT YOU SEE THE NEW GYMNASIUM THAT IS BEING BUILT. SO IT'S A DIFFERENT CAMPUS IN THAT REGARD. I STRESS THIS, BECAUSE THE SPECIFICS OF THIS BUILDING, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD CASE STUDY TO SHOW HOW THESE SPACES WORK IN PLAN AND IN SESSION.
[INDISCERNIBLE] >> CORNERSTONE WILL ULTIMATELY GET TO 2800 IF WE BROUGHT MORE STUDENTS IN.
AND THE TOTAL K-12. [INDISCERNIBLE]
>> I DO NOT KNOW THE NUMBER. BUT I COULD GET THAT FOR YOU.
>> THIS IS A SCHOOL IN THE CITY OF MIAMI.
AND UPPER SCHOOL, IN THE CITY OF NORTHLAND.
THIS IS A MULTILEVEL BUILDING WITHIN ACTIVITY THAT YOU SEE THERE. THIS IS BEFORE THEY PUT IN THE SHADE STRUCTURES. YOU SEE PICTURES OF IT WITH THE SHADE STRUCTURES. ULTIMATELY.
I WILL GET BACK TO THAT IN A SECOND.
OUT GET BACK TO THAT. THIS HAS BOTH.
IT SORT OF A T-SHAPED ACTIVITY, AND ONE SIDE HAS A HARD-CORE BASKETBALL COURT, THE OTHER SIDE HAS A SOCCER PAGE.
SO IT'S A RATHER LARGE SPACE. AGAIN THERE IS AN OFFICE UP THERE, AND SO ON. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO ROUTINELY THERE, YOU SEE THIS IS QUITE REMARKABLE IN DOWNTOWN MIAMI, THEY HAVE A MOVIE NIGHT. SIEVES NOT JUST SOMETHING THEY ARE INTO TODAY. THEY ARE SOLVING AND HELPING TO CREATE SOME RECREATIONAL OPTIONS FOR THE STUDENTS.
BUT ALSO IT BECOMES SOMETHING PARENTS AND FAMILIES CAN USE OVER THE COURSE OF THE SCHOOL YEAR AND SO ON.
THE VIEWS ON THE RIGHT, THAT ONE YOU SAW AT NIGHT, LOOKING DOWN THAT DID NOT HAVE THEM, ULTIMATELY THEY WERE INSTALLED FOR PLANS. AND THESE ARE VERY ROBUST.
OBVIOUSLY WITH FOCUS ON THE BUILDING CODE AND FIRE CODE AND ALL OF THAT, THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS THE ONE YOU JUST SAW BEFORE.
THE PARKLAND ACTIVITY ADDENDUM. IN THIS CASE, THIS IS THE
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FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING, THE UPPER SCHOOL BUILDING.AND THOSE ARE THE STUDENTS THAT LEAVES US ON A DAILY BASIS, THE UPPER SCHOOL STUDENTS. HERE YOU HAVE INGRAINED THE SHADED AREA, WITH THE SALES, COMPLETELY CONTAINED WITH THE MASH, A 7500 SQUARE-FOOT SPACE. IT'S NOT SMALL.
IT'S A DECENT SIZE AMOUNT OF SPACE.
THERE ARE SOME UNSHADED AREAS. AND ACTIVITIES LIKE LARGE-SCALE CHESS, THINGS LIKE THAT. WHAT YOU SEE IN YELLOW, UC FOUR STAIRS THAT ARE SERVING THIS SPACE.
AND ELEVATOR LOBBY. AND THEY ARE WILL BE STORAGE AND RESTROOMS FOR THE STUDENTS. WE WILL BE FLESHING OUT OUT AS WE GO. THAT'S WHAT WERE LOOKING AT WHEN WE SEE THESE TYPES OF SPACES. AND THIS IS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. YOU GOT A GLIMPSE OF IT WHEN WE WERE DOING A FLYOVER. WE WERE DOING SOME MULTIPLE VIEWS OF WHERE THAT WOULD WORK. IN THE AREAS WHERE THE SALES ARE, THAT SOME-- AT 7500 SQUARE-FOOT AREA.
JUMPING TO PROJECT PHASE THAT WAS ANOTHER CURRENT-- TOPIC OF
CONVERSATION. >> I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON
THE DECK. >> CERTAIN AREAS AS YOU WALK OUT OF THE LOBBY, THERE IS A HIGHER RAILING AREA, AND OTHER AREAS WHERE THE KIDS ARE PLAYING, IS NOT IN THIS DRAWING AS WELL FOR
THE SOMERSET LOCATION? >> IN THIS CASE, AND IT'S SUBJECT TO REVISITING, WHAT YOU SEE IN GREEN IS COMPLETELY CONTAINED WITH THE MASH. THAT IS WHERE THE MORE ACTIVE USE WOULD BE. RIGHT? AND IT'S NOT JUST MASH DOWN TO THE FLOOR.
WE HAVE A HIGHER THAN NORMAL PARAPET END.
AND THEN THE STRUCTURE, AND THEN THE MASH.
THAT HAPPENS IN THE GREEN AREA. THE AREA YOU SEE BELOW THAT WILL HAVE THE SHADE STRUCTURE THAT ALLOWS FROM LOBBY TO STARE TO STARE, SO IN INCLEMENT WEATHER, OR THE WEATHER CHANGES, YOU CAN GET IN THERE AND GO TO THE STAIRS AND GO DOWNSTAIRS.
SO THAT IS HOW WE WILL-- >> AND THIS MASH AND THE RAILING WITH THE HIGHER PARAPET, YOU USE THESE AND OTHER VERSIONS OF THAT? ANY SAFETY ISSUES IN OTHER LOCATIONS? MAC?
>> THERE ARE A FEW PROJECTS THAT I DID NOT EVEN MENTION, WHERE WE RECENTLY AT A SCHOOL IN MIAMI, THE ACTIVITY DECK ON THE FIFTH FLOOR NEAR THE BASEBALL STADIUM, WHERE THAT YOUNG MAN MIGHT PLAY ONE DAY, THERE IS A HOCKEY RINK. THE NHL AND SLAM-- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, BUT THERE WAS A GAME PLAYED AT MARLINS STADIUM, THE WINTER CLASSIC. AS PART OF PROMOTING THAT, THE NHL DONATED-- NOT ICE, A HIGHLY SPECIALIZED PLASTIC THAT THEY HAVE DEVELOPED, THAT YOU CAN SKATE ON, NOT WITH BLADES, BUT WHEELS THAT ARE SUPER SHARP. AND THEY BUILT THIS ON THAT AS WELL. AND THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE SAME KIND OF ISSUES. EGRESS, SAFETY.
SO WE'VE DONE MANY OF THESE AND CONTINUE TO DO SO AS I MENTIONED THE REASONS THAT WE HAVE SCHOOLS SAYING WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT. IT'S ALSO AN ATTRACTIVE ELEMENT AND IT SOLVES THESE PRACTICAL ISSUES.
PROJECT PHASING WAS ALSO A MAJOR TOPIC OF CONVERSATION, AND AS YOU HEARD FROM SCOTT EARLIER, WE WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD ON THAT, AND I CAN REMEMBER IN THE COURSE OF CRAFTING THE PHASING PLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS, AND I THINK IT WAS THE COMMISSIONER WHO IS NOT HERE NOW, HE SAID LAST TIME, HE WAS REALLY LOOKING DOWN ON THE SEQUENCING OF CONSTRUCTION, AND
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THE ISSUE OF PARKING. YOU ARE TAKING DOWN FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME A CHUNK OF YOUR PARKING LOT, TO CREATE SAFE STAGING FOR CONSTRUCTION WORKERS.SEPARATE ENTRANCE. MANY OF YOU RAISE THAT POINT AS WELL. HOW WILL THAT WORK.
WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ACT AND THE SAFETY OF THE CAMPUS AND SO ON. WE ARE KEENLY AWARE.
WE HAVE MANY PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT DONE IN ONE FELL SWOOP.
THEY ARE DONE OVER TIME. AND I WILL SHOW YOU A FEW OF THOSE IN A SECOND. AS I CONCLUDE.
BUT WHAT WE DID HERE IS THE SAME, OKAY, IF YOU DO THIS AND NOT AT THE SAME TIME, WE WILL BE SHORT ON PARKING.
SO WHAT WE DID IS SAY OKAY, WHAT IS IT THAT WE NEED TO DO TO BUILD D AND EE, THE GYM AND THE UPPER SCHOOL CLASSROOM BUILDING TO SIMULTANEOUSLY... ONE THING THAT HAPPENS AS A RESULT OF DOING THAT IS WE CUT A YEAR OFF OF THE SCHEDULE.
I KNOW WE DON'T DEFECT THE RAMP UP.
I THINK THE RAMP UP NUMBERS DON'T CHANGE.
AND THESE FOLKS CAN EXPLAIN THOSE BETTER THAN I CAN.
THAT'S COUNTING AS MANY REITERATIONS AS YOU SAW.
THOSE DON'T CHANGE, BUT WE COMPRESS THE TIMELINE OF CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS GREAT FOR EVERYONE.
IT'S GREAT FOR THE SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL COMMUNITY.
IT'S GREAT FOR MAR-A-LAGO, IT'S GREAT FOR EVERYONE.
IN THAT REGARD. BUT WE HADAN ISSUE OF PARKING SPACES, AND THERE WAS A MOMENT GOING ON WITH CONSTRUCTION THAT WE WERE SURE ABOUT PARKING. SO WE LOOKED AT, AND YOU WILL REMEMBER THIS, IT'S A CONVERSATION FROM A LONG TIME AGO. AND WE DECIDED TO FORGO THAT AND GO FORWARD. AND YOU SEE THE TURQUOISE PARKING SPACES ON THE LEFT THERE, THE LEFT SIDE OF THE CAMPUS. THAT IS NOT ABATING ANY FLOW OF CUEING. SO WE THOUGHT WHAT IF WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON, WISHART TEMP PARKING SPACES FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. PUT THEM THERE TEMPORARILY, AND WHEN BUILDING D GETS A TCO THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO OCCUPY THE 35 SPACES AT GROUND LEVEL, THERE MAYBE THINGS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE BUILDING THAT ARE NOT FINISHED YET, BUT WE WILL WORK THAT OUT WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THOSE TEN TEMPORARY SPACES GO AWAY. BECAUSE NOW WE PICKED UP 35.
AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S 204 PARKING SPACES TOTALLY ON THE CAMPUS. SO WE WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT, AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.
I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND FEEDBACK FROM THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS LOOKING AT IT.
NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
BECAUSE HE FIRE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE NOT IMPEDED BY THOSE TEN PARKING SPACES.
IT'S A FLOW. AND THIS IS A DRAWING THAT THE FOLKS DID. THIS IS AN-- A SOFTWARE THEY USED TO LOOK AT THE MOBILITY OF FIRE TRUCKS, FOR EXAMPLE.
AND THEY LOOKED AT IT. THIS HAS BEEN SENT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE QUESTIONS THAT I SAW HAD TO DO WITH A CONCERN ABOUT THIS.
I THINK THEY WERE JUST MORE CONCERNED ABOUT ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT GATES AND ENTRANCES.
WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT. SO THAT WILL ALLOW US TO BUILD THOSE BUILDING SIMULTANEOUSLY. SO IF I GO BACK A STEP YOU WILL SEE THE BOTTOM RIGHT. SO THE CONCLUSION WOULD HAPPEN IN AUGUST 2029. A FULL YEAR AHEAD OF IT'S PRIOR
SCHEDULE. >> YOUR AT 1675 FOR THAT SCHOOL
YEAR. >> I WANT TO STOP YOU, YOU MENTIONED IT BEFORE. YOU MENTIONED COMPLIANCE WITH THAT ACT. CAN YOU SHARE WITH US THE SAFETY PROTOCOLS OR MEASURES ON A 10,000-FOOT LEVEL OF WHAT WILL BE PUT IN FOR THE CONSTRUCTION ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT?
>> AS YOU SAW THERE AND IT WAS DESCRIBED IN THE LAST PRESENTATION ON THE NORTH, THERE WAS AN INDEPENDENT ENTRANCE.
THE YELLOW WAS ALL CONSTRUCTION STAGING.
SO THAT AREA OF PARKING IS NOT NECESSARY, AND IT'S BEING REBUILT FOR MORE EFFICIENCY AND ADDITIONAL PARKING.
BUT THAT AREA WILL BE WHERE CONSTRUCTION STAGING OCCURS.
FROM THERE THEY ARE ABLE TO BUILD THESE BUILDINGS AND GET ON CAMPUS WHILE SCHOOL REMAINS UNAFFECTED, THE AMOUNT OF PARKING DURING THE DAY IS NOT AFFECTED.
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THE PARKING THAT YOU NEED TO CODE.SO THAT IS TOTALLY FENCED IN, AND EVEN WITH THAT-- OUR SECURITY DIRECTOR IS HERE. WE WORKED WITH HIM QUITE CLOSELY. HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE ORIGINAL PROJECT AND WE WORKED WITH HIM ON ALL OF OUR PROJECTS.
WE INTRODUCED THEM TO THESE CAMPUSES EARLY ON IN THE DESIGN PROCESS. AND WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT.
BUT FOLKS ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE WE WORK WITH, THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT TEAM, THE ACADEMIC WE HAVE FOR ALL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, THEY ARE KEENLY AWARE.
THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. THIS IS NOT UNIQUE.
TO USE THAT WORD AGAIN, TO THIS PARTICULAR CAMPUS.
THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. IT'S UNIQUE HERE.
THERE ARE ASPECTS OF THIS UNLIKE ANY OTHERS.
BUT YOU CAN REST ASSURED THAT THAT ASPECT OF APPROPRIATE SEPARATION, FENCING, BACKGROUND CHECKS, COMPLIANT WITH THE JESSICA LUNSFORD ACT, IS FRONT AND CENTER.
I'M SURE THE PARENTS THAT ARE HERE WOULD ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT IF WE ARE NOT PUTTING THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS WHOLE THING, I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
AND FINALLY, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU A COUPLE-- A FEW CASE STUDIES OF K-12 CAMPUSES. I THINK WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE MERITS OF THE K-12 EXPERIENCE, AND I THINK THAT YOU SAW THAT.
AND I'VE SEEN THAT PERSON, JUST THE OTHER DAY WE WENT TO A K-12 CAMPUS IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY. AND WE WERE ACCOUNTING FOR THE GYMNASIUM, THE LAST PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.
THE WHOLE EVENT WAS A PRODUCT OF WATCHING STUDENTS COME IN AND PERFORM, FROM THE CHEERLEADERS TO THE LITTLE KIDS, FROM THE PERFORMERS, TO THE HIGH SCHOOL CHEERLEADERS.
ALL IN THE SAME SPACE AND IN THE SAME FAMILY IF YOU WILL.
LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY. NOT-- SOME OF THOSE SENIORS THAT ARE PLAYING BASKETBALL OR CHEERING, OR WHATEVER, HAVE BROTHERS OR SISTERS THAT ARE IN THE FOURTH GRADE AT THAT SCHOOL.
AND WHILE THEY DON'T BASICALLY LIVE TOGETHER IN THAT SPAN OF THE EIGHT HOURS THAT THEY ARE IN SCHOOL, THEY ARE IN THE ST. CATHARINES AREA. SO WATCHING THAT DYNAMIC, AS SHE SPOKE SO WELL ABOUT IS REMARKABLE TO SEE.
BUT ON THE FACILITY SIDE, THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING QUITE COMMON IN OUR EXPERIENCE. THESE CAMPUSES, AND THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, A 9-ACRE CAMPUS, 2000 STUDENTS IN HOMESTEAD, THEY DON'T START BY TURNING ON THE LIGHT SWITCH.
YOU DO NOT BUILD THAT ON DAY ONE.
THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. IT'S NOT SMART.
SO IT STARTS IN PHASES. THERE YOU SEE THE MIDDLE PHASE ONE, THE LOWER SCHOOL, AND NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THAT SMALL PHOTO YOU SEE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THIS IN THAT SENSE. IT HAS THE UPPER SCHOOL CLASSROOM BUILDING AND LUNCH OR MULTIPURPOSE SPACE, AND THE GYMNASIUM IN THIS CASE IS BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.
SO THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.
THAT WILL EXPAND OVER TH NEXT TWO YEARS TO 2000 STUDENTS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY DON'T HAVE THE SPACE.
BUT THEY ARE INCLUDING THE 2000 STUDENTS.
THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE K-12 CAMPUS.
HERE IS ANOTHER ONE IN CENTRAL FLORIDA.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE IMAGES AT THE BOTTOM, LEFT TO RIGHT.
FD-- EMPTY LAND OF ORIGINAL SITE.
THIS WAS 13 ACRES, 2500 STUDENTS.
FOUR FACES. THE FIRST BUILDING IN THE UP-DOWN POSITION THERE WAS THE LOWER SCHOOL.
THEN YOU SEE THE NEXT BUILDING, THEN YOU SEE GREEN SPACE BEING DEVELOPED, THAT ONE IS LARGE ENOUGH TO HAVE A SOCCER PITCH.
RIGHT NOW, ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT YOU SEE THREE BUILDINGS.
THE ONE TO THE RIGHT IS THE GYMNASIUM, THAT'S THE LAST PHASE. AND THE OTHER TWO BUILDINGS TO THE LEFT OF THE GYM ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW AND WILL OPEN SOMETIME IN THE 26-27 SCHOOL YEAR.
THEY WILL NOT MAKE THE AUGUST OPENING, BUT PERHAPS THE JANUARY MIDSEMESTER OPENING OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW IN OUR K TO 12 CAMPUS IN CENTRAL FLORIDA.
ANOTHER ONE IN WESLEY CHAPEL. SAME THING.
FROM LEFT TO RIGHT. YOU SEE HOW THIS CAMPUS GREW OVER TIME. AND ON THE RIGHT YOU SEE THE CIRCLE TO THE RIGHT. THE HIGH SCHOOL COMPONENT BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW. CLASSROOM BUILDING, GYMNASIUM, A MIDDLE SCHOOL BUILDING, AND A LOWER SCHOOL BUILDING.
ON THOSE 10 ACRES. I WILL END WITH THIS ONE.
IN THIS CASE, THIS ONE IS QUITE SIMILAR IN OTHER ASPECTS TO THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WHERE THE ORIGINAL CAMPUS WAS APPROVED AS
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A K8. 1100 STUDENT STATIONS.AND YOU SEE THERE IT OPEN WITH A SMALL BUILDING, AND THE NEXT BUILDING REACHED A POINT WHERE THE K8 HAD PRETTY MUCH REACHED IT'S LIMIT OF 700 STUDENTS IN THAT BUILDING.
AND IT WAS PARENTAL ENCOURAGEMENT FOR THE COUNTY.
IT WAS OF THE-- ONE OF THE DENSEST AREAS IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY. AND ONE OF THE SUPPORTS THAT WENT TO IN THIS CASE, PINECREST KADAM-- ACADEMY, THE FOLKS SAID WE WANT A HIGH SCHOOL. WE LIKE THE SMALL SIZE OF THIS CAMPUS. WE LIKE THE WAY THAT THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS ARE WORKING. WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE OUR CHILD'S TRAJECTORY TO SOME OTHER SCHOOL.
BUT THE PROBLEM WAS THAT WE WERE APPROVED AS A K-8.
AND THE HIGH SCHOOL IS NOT PART OF THE ZONING GROUP.
SO WE WENT BACK ENDED THE STUDY AND LOOKED AT INFRASTRUCTURE.
LOOKED AT THE PROGRAMMING OF THE NEXT BUILDING.
MOVE THE RECREATIONAL SPACES TO THE NORTH, IN THIS CASE.
SO THERE IS STILL AN OUTDOOR BASKETBALL COURT.
OUTDOOR RINK SPACE, A COURTYARD. A RECREATIONAL COURTYARD.
USE EATING GREEN THERE ON THE RIGHT.
AND THIS RECENTLY OPENED. THAT'S THE GYM I SHOWED YOU THAT HAD ALL THE NATURAL LIGHT. BUT THERE IS ALSO A CLASSROOM BUILDING WITH LABS. PRODUCTION.
ANATOMY, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE REQUIRED AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL. IN THAT SENSE, THIS PROJECT IS SIMILAR GIVEN THE MOVING PARTS OF OPERATING WITHIN AN EXISTING CAMPUS, AND GOING TO GET AN APPROVAL THROUGHOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL OF LOOKING AT TRAFFIC AND IMPACTS AND ALL OF THAT. AND FINALLY HERE, HERE AT THE AND, WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WHICH I STARTED WITH B% SAYING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS A THOUSAND TIMES.
WE HAVE NEVER DONE THIS, AND WE KNOW THAT.
AND IN A WAY THAT IS BOTH CHALLENGING AND FANTASTIC AS A DESIGNER OF FACILITIES AND WORKING WITH THESE AMAZING FOLKS ON THE ACADEMIC SIDE, PARENTS AND STUDENTS AND SO ON, THAT THEY GET A CUSTOM-MADE PROJECT FOR PARKING AND FOR THIS LOCATION AND COMMUNITY. SO WE ARE STATIC TO BE A PART OF IT. WE UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES AND WE UNDERSTAND-- WE HOPE THE PRESENTATION ADDRESSED MANY OF YOUR ISSUES YOU HAD IN THE LAST HIRING.
>> COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE HOMESTEAD IN A MOMENT?
YES. AND YOU SAID FOUNTAIN BLUE.
I KNOW IT'S ONE OF THE DENTISTS. OKAY.
THANK YOU. BEAUTIFUL PROPERTIES.
>> WE DID IT AND I THINK IT'S BEEN CERTAINLY SCRUTINIZED AND
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LOOKED AT. BUT I WILL SAY THAT IT'S NOT JUST PARKING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE.[INDISCERNIBLE] >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING A DOUBLE, RATE? ARE YOU SAYING THAT LAND CURRENTLY SET UP IN PARKLAND IS ENOUGH FOR DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF CLASSROOMS? LET'S PUT PARKING SIZE SIDE.
WHAT WE'RE HEARING HEARING FROM PARENTS OF STUDENTS RIGHT NOW? CURRENTLY SOMERSET HAS TAKEN ON TOO MANY STUDENTS AND YOU HAVE KIDS NOW THAT INSTEAD OF BEING IN THE CLASSROOM TO TAKE PART IN SCIENCE OR WHATEVER, THEY DON'T HAVE A ACTUAL CLASSROOM.
NOW THEY HAVE A TEACHE COMING TO THEM.
TO ME YOU ARE ALREADY HAVING ISSUES.
IT MAYBE ANECDOTAL. BUT I'M HEARING THAT THERE ARE ALREADY ISSUES OF DILUTING EXPERIENCE FOR STUDENTS IN A CAPACITY-- [INDISCERNIBLE]
>> WE SIGNED UP FOR YOU. WE NEVER GOT THAT.
AND NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER 1000 STUDENTS, TRYING TO PROVIDE FOR THEM. YOU ARE GOING TO PROVIDE FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHICH IS A DIFFERENT PROVISION.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT I CAN SAY WITHIN TWO USUAL HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL IF I SAY GO AHEAD.
I HAVE NO DOUBT. MY CONCERN FROM LAST MEETING AND EVERYTHING DISCUSSED THIS MEETING IS AT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT THE FOUR WALLS OF HOW TO OPERATE THIS.
AND I CANNOT INTERFERE WITH HOW YOU OPERATE, THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS. ALL WE CAN CONTROL IS WHAT HAPPENS. EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED HAS BEEN LOOKING INWARD, INSTEAD OF SAYING HOW THIS WILL INTERACT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA? AND-- [INDISCERNIBLE]
>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOL OR THE COMMUNITY?
>> THE COMMUNITY. >> THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN MY FAMILY GROWING UP HAS BEEN EDUCATION.
THAT'S BEEN MY PRINCIPAL, MY FAMILY'S BACKBONE, WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET THE BEST EDUCATION. AS MUCH AS I WANT TO SIT HERE, I SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT FURTHERS EDUCATION EXCEPT FOR THE ONE PRIORITY THAT IS PARAMOUNT TO EDUCATION, SAFETY.
I CAN'T SIT HERE AND SAY THAT THESE STUDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND STAY IN SCHOOL IF I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT IS ABLE TO HAPPEN IF YOU CAN MAINTAIN-- CANNOT MAINTAIN A SAFE-- NOT JUST SAVE, QUALITY-OF-LIFE.
50% OF THE STUDENTS DON'T EVEN LIVE IN OUR CITY.
SO WE WANT TO PROVIDE AND PROVIDE JUST-- PROVIDE JOBS FOR OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY AND WHO MAYBE ONE DAY MIGHT, THEY MAY NOT EVEN HAVE KIDS YET. BUT THEY WANT THE OPTION.
BUT RIGHT NOW, SAFETY HAS TO BE KEPT IN MIND.
AND I'M SITTING HERE LISTENING TO ALL OF THE THINGS YOU'RE PUTTING THAT STUFF ON THE WALL, AND I GET THAT.
THAT IS ONE WAY TO DO IT ALTHOUGH I STILL THINK IT IS A TERRIFYING THING ON THE ROOFTOP, THAT JUST ME.
THAT DOESN'T EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED OUTSIDE.
AND ONE THING I HEARD THAT WAS VERY CONCERNING BUT WAS JUST A FACT, WAS THAT I HAVE BEEN TO WINTERFEST BEFORE AND YOU ARE RIGHT, IT IS PACKED. SO WHAT IS IT THAT NOW YOU STAND AND AT ANOTHER 700 STUDENTS AND HAVE A FULL SCHOOL EVENT? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- WE ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT HOW PEOPLE DEAL WITH OVERFLOW, RIGHT? THAT IS A CONCERN TO ME.
AND THE AFTER WORD ANSWER IS THAT THEY MAY BE WILLING TO DO THIS AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT FOR YOU TO KNOW, TWO MONTHS AGO, WE HAD THE SAME CHURCH COME IN HERE ASKING US HOW TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR PARKING. SO THE IRONY CANNOT BE LOST, I HOPE YOU SEE THAT. I'M TRYING TO GET THIS TO THE PLACE WHERE I KNOW YOU WANT TO BE.
BUT THOSE QUESTIONS CAN'T BE LEFT FOR US TO SOLVE.
AND THAT WAS MY POINT AT THE LAST MEETING, IF YOU THOUGHT THEY WERE PHILOSOPHICAL OR NOT, THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS.
AND EVERYTHING IN THIS PRESENTATION HAS BEEN HOW GREAT OF A SCHOOL IT IS GOING TO BE. AND PART OF MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT PROGRAMMING. I CAN CONTROL PROGRAM YOU HAVE BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE IF YOU WILL HAVE A FOOTBALL TEAM AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A TRACK AND FIELD AND YOU WILL HAVE VOLLEYBALL, WHERE IS ALL OF THIS GOING TO HAPPEN? WE TALKED ABOUT YOU ALREADY HAVE EXPORTS FOR KIDS IN MIDDLE
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SCHOOL. 'S YOU HAVE MINUSCULE BASKETBALL TEAM AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A JV TEAM, A UNIVERSITY TEAM AT A VARSITY. THAT IS THREE DIFFERENT TEAMS OF THE SAME SPORT. NOW YOU EXTRAPOLATE THAT.YOU HAVE VOLLEYBALL AND THESE. MY POINT IS, THERE'S A PARCEL DOWN THE ROAD THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD PURCHASED HOWEVER MANY YEARS AGO WITH MONEY AND SUPPORT FROM THE SCHOOL THAT HAS BEEN DEDICATED FOR SCHOOL. AND IF AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, OF COURSE THEY HAVE ALWAYS MADE THE DECISION THAT THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE WAS NECESSARY.
THEY'VE BEEN SITTING THERE AND ARE SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, THE BOUNDARY ISSUES IN ALL OF THAT.
SO I SIT HERE AND A LOOK AT THIS VACANT PIECE OF PARCEL THOSE NEXT WEEK 36-ACRE PARK THAT TO ME IS AN IDEAL PLACE FOR SCHOOL BECAUSE IT IS ACTUALLY LARGE, IT IS NEXT TO A PARK AND ACTUALLY CONFORMS TO THE STARTING AREA. AND THEN I LOOK AT THIS, WILL WE'RE SITTING HERE SAYING YES, I GET IT.
WHEN THERE'S 4 ACRES AND WHERE THERE IS A WILL, THERE IS A WAY.
BUT NO PUN INTENDED, IT IS IMPORTANT TO ZOOM OUT.
WE KEEP LOOKING AT THESE NICE LITTLE SCREENSHOTS, THESE NICE LITTLE CROPPED IMAGES AND THE THING I'M TRYING TO EXPRESS IS WE ARE NOT SIMILARLY SITUATED. IT IS HENDRYCKS FORMS TIMES 1000. THEY HAVE ALL THE LAND IN THE WORLD. WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE, RIGHT? SO ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY IS TO HEAR THAT WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT OR WE WILL PROVIDE WHATEVER SPORTS THE STUDENTS WANT, I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION BASED OFF OF THE HYPOTHETICALS.
I CAN ONLY MAKE A DECISION TODAY WITH THE DATA AND THE EVIDENCE THAT IS IN FRONT OF ME. SO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE YOUR WORD, OF COURSE. I RESPECT YOUR SOPHISTICATED, SMART AND PASSIONATE, I HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON WHAT I'M SEEING. CANNOT JUST MAKE IT BASED ON THE SLIDESHOW OF SEVERAL OTHERS SHOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT BECAUSE THAT IS NOT PARKLAND. SO I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT THE WHOLE PRESENTATION WAS FANTASTIC.
YOU GUYS ARE CLEARLY THE TOP OF THE INDUSTRY IN TERMS OF BEST PRACTICES AND WHAT. THAT DOESN'T CHANGE WHERE WE ARE AT. I'M LOOKING AT A CIRCUMSTANTIAL CONVERSATION INSTEAD OF THE LOOK HOW GOOD WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. I KNOW YOU HAVE, WE HAVE SEEN IT OURSELVES. OR I AM AT CURRENTLY IS I AM NOT THERE. I THINK THE SAFETY AND SECURITY TO ME, IS TOO GREAT. THERE IS A BALANCING ACT HERE.
ON THE ONE HAND YOU HAVE EDUCATION, ON THE OTHER HAND YOU HAVE SAFETY. FOR EVERYTHING YOU PUT IN EDUCATION, THE THINGS YOU TALK ABOUT, I GOT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, YOU DO IT WELL, BUT THOSE ARE THE STANDARDS.
WE EXPECT ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR CITY TO PROVIDE GREAT ACADEMICS AND PROVIDE GREAT EXTRA ACTIVITIES.
WE OF COURSE LOVE THAT YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT IT BUT THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CHEERING FOR, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IS WHAT WE WANT.
THAT IS OUR EXPECTATION. I DON'T WANT IT TO BE WE WILL LOOK AT THE SCHOOLS PROVIDE IT EVEN BETTER, WHAT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IS ARE WE PROVIDING SOMETHING FOR PEOPLE WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE, TEN, 15 YEARS, RIGHT? BECAUSE ONCE THAT THING IS BUILT, IS NOT GOING TO JUST TEAR IT DOWN, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A COMPACT TRASH. IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT THAN A TRASH COMPACTOR MAY HAVE ALREADY HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
TEN YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN THIS THING IS NOW THE CHURCH -- LIKE AN AMOEBA, IT KEEPS GROWING, YOU WERE SO SUCCESSFUL THAT MORE, MORE PEOPLE WANT TO COME. THE QUESTION IS FOR US, WHO LIVE IN THE CITY, WHO DRIVE AROUND, YES, WE WANT OUR KIDS TO GO TO GREAT SCHOOLS. BUT AT WHAT EXPENSE? WE HAVE GREAT SCHOOLS. SO WHAT EXPENSE DOES BRINGING ON THIS THAT SERVES PROBABLY 400 STUDENTS AND PARKLAND, RIGHT? PARKLAND RESIDENTS, OTHER HALF WOULD BE KNOWN PARKLAND, RIGHT? FOR 400 NEW STUDENTS -- I GET IT, YOU COMPOUND THAT OVER TIME, IT WILL BECOME MORE. BUT HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THAT CORNER OF OUR CITY THAT IS NOT A -- IS NOT THE SAME AS WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING ME ON THESE. THE SURROUNDING AREA IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH A SCHOOL, RIGHT? THAT IS MY HONEST IMPRESSION.
YOU ARE SAYING CAN GO GET PARKING FROM PUBLIX -- THAT GIVES ME ANXIETY. IT GIVES MEANING SIDEY BECAUSE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT GOLF CARTS.
AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ABOUT POTENTIALLY HAVING TEACHERS GOING AND DRIVING AND NOW CARPOOLING AND WE ARE ALREADY HAVING CONCERNS WITH OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THERE'S A COMMUNITY WHO WANTS TO BRING GOLF CARTS AND ROCKETS OFF IN THE MORNING. ALL OF US WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. YOU SPENT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. BUT NOW WE WILL TRY TO SAY WELL, WE DON'T NEED A SHUTTLE, WE WILL LET THE TEACHERS TAKE THE GOLF CART. ALL WE'RE DOING IS WE KEEP COMPOUNDING THESE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED OF THE TRAFFIC
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AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT JUST HAPPENED WITH LOCKS. WE HAVE OBSERVED REAL AND FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE. I THINK EVERYONE CAN PROBABLY SAY THEY HAD A TASTE OF IT. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ONE OF THE MAJOR ARTERIES IN OUR CITY CLOGS? RIGHT? WHAT HAPPENS? BUT SAY THERE IS A MAJOR WATER LEAK AND NOW IT SHUTS DOWN.EVERYTHING GETS REDIRECTED, YOU GO TO PARKSIDE, WHATEVER.
WE HAVE SEEN HOW THE CITY WORKS. WE ARE NOT A MIAMI OR FORT LAUDERDALE. WE'RE LIKE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT VEINS FLOWING TOGETHER AND WHEN ONE CUTS OFF, IT'S ALL RIGHT, WE OPEN UP THIS ONE. WE'RE JUST NOT THE SAME.
SO I THINK THAT THERE WAS EVEN A BOLD RISK BACK A COURAGEOUS RISK EIGHT YEARS AGO, OF GIVING YOU GUYS THE GREEN LIGHT.
I KNOW HOW HARD YOU FOUGHT FOR IT, I KNOW HOW CONTEMPTUOUS IT WAS, I'M SURE EVEN MICHAEL, MY FATHER-IN-LAW, THAT IS HIM RIGHT NOW. THAT IS HIM SAYING I DID THAT FOR YOU. BELIEVE ME, I KNOW IT.
SO I UNDERSTAND IT. BUT MY PROBLEM IS THAT WAS A DIFFERENT EVALUATION. AND I'M CONCERNED NOW BECAUSE WE ARE NOT HERE TO ASSESS YOUR CAPABILITY.
IT IS NOT ABOUT CAPABILITY. WE ARE HERE TO ASSESS THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE SURROUNDINGS IN WHICH YOU ARE LOOKING TO PERFORM. AND I THINK THAT IS WHERE I'M NOT HEARING ENOUGH. I AM HEARING THE US, MEETING ACADEMIA AND WHAT WE WILL DO, VERSUS HERE'S HOW WE ARE GOING TO ENSURE THE PARKLAND COMMUNITY IS NOT ONLY GOING TO DECLINE, BUT GET BETTER. THAT IS WHERE I AM.
AGAIN, I HOPE YOU ARE IN MY VOICE.
THE IDEA OF WANTING TO IMPROVE EDUCATION MAKES ME HAPPY.
AND I CAN TELL THAT IS WHAT MAKES YOU GUYS TAKE AS WELL.
OBVIOUS LEAD THAT IS WHY YOU ARE HERE.
BUT WE CANNOT LOSE SIGHT OF THE MAIN PRIORITY.
I HOPE THAT HELPS TO SOME EXTENT.
THAT IS WHERE I AM AT. >> I WILL LET THE PRINCIPAL SPEAK TO YOUR FIRST POINT ABOUT THE ACADEMIC ENVIRONMENT AND SO ON. AND I WILL SAY SOMETHING ABOUT SECURITY AND SAFETY. THAT IS A BIT PERSONAL.
AND THAT IS THAT OVER 22 YEARS, WE HAVE DESIGNED AND HAVE HAD BUILT,, OVER 1.5 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THERE IS ONE PERSON'S NAME ON EVERY SINGLE SHEET OF THOSE PLANS, THAT IS MY NAME.
SO I CAN RETIRE TOMORROW AND IT STILL -- IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, THAT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY.
SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND I THINK EDUCATION IS AT THE FRONT AND CENTER OF THE FOUNDATION OF YOUR FAMILY AND SO ON. AND I THINK THAT YOUR POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN. AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE LISTENED, FROM LAST TIME AND CRAFTED A PRESENTATION THAT ADDRESSED THE FOUR OR FIVE POINTS THAT WE THOUGHT WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR. PERHAPS MAYBE NOT TO YOUR SATISFACTION. BUT I WILL SAY, THAT NO ONE IN THIS ROOM PUTS THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN -- SOME OF THEM ARE HERE -- THE CHILDREN OF THESE PARENTS AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS AND MYSELF. BECAUSE I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY SINGLE FACILITY, WHETHER IT IS ON 4 ACRES OR 14 ACRES, THAT WE HAVE EVER DESIGNED. AS LONG AS THOSE FACILITIES EXIST. AND I'M NOT THE ONLY ARCHITECT THAT DOES THAT. EVERYONE DOES IT.
BUT WE WORK AND WE SURROUND OURSELVES WITH GREAT EXPERTS, WE HAVE SECURITY EXPERTS, WE HAVE FANTASTIC PROJECT MANAGERS, WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION FOLKS AND SO ON.
WE HAVE AMAZING TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATORS AND ACADEMIC PEOPLE THAT PROVIDE GREAT SUPPORT.
SO I'M NOT SURE I CAN GIVE YOU THE LEVEL OF SATISFACTION.
BUT I HAVE IT. FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH, --
>> AND I THINK IT WILL HELP YOU. BUT WANT TO PUT WHAT YOU SAID IN CONTEXT. THIS IS NOW COMING FULL CIRCLE.
AGAIN, I'M NOT QUESTIONING WHETHER OR NOT YOU AS A COMPANY AND IS AN ORGANIZATION, ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DESIGN A BUILDING AND OPERATE IT THAT WILL ALLOW FOR SAFETY OF THOSE STUDENTS IN THAT BUILDING. I BELIEVE IT.
YOU'RE SAYING YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM, RIGHT? WE AS A COLLECTIVE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT ONLY THOSE STUDENTS, BUT EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
NOT JUST KIDS, ADULTS, THE DOGS, RIGHT? THOSE THAT CROSS THE STREET. AND I'M BEING CHEEKY BUT THE TRUTH IS, THAT IS WHAT I'M LOOKING OUT FOR.
AND ALL I'M HEARING IS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING OUT FOR ABOUT THE STUDENTS. AND I'M TRYING TO SAY THAT IS NOT MY FRAMEWORK, THAT IS YOUR FRAMEWORK AND I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE YOU DO YOUR FRAMEWORK BUT WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF MY JOB.
>> AGAIN, MY LAST POINT IS I STARTED VERY CAREFULLY BY SAYING THAT WHILE WE ARE GOING TO SHOW YOU THINGS WE HAVE DONE BEFORE, HERE IS ONE, HERE'S ANOTHER ONE AND HERE IS ANOTHER ONE.
WE UNDERSTAND THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS PROJECT AND WE UNDERSTAND YOUR ROLE. AND WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE ANSWERED YOUR STAFF, BY VIRTUE OF THEIR SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT WITH ZONING FOLKS BY VIRTUE OF ITS SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT, THE
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TRAFFIC ENGINEER THAT THE CITY HIRED TO REVIEW -- PEER-REVIEWED ARE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS STUDY, ALL SUPPORT THE PROJECT AND HAVE, IN ESSENCE, ESTABLISHED THAT THE CRITERIA THAT WE NEED TO MEET FOR THE FIVE ITEMS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU, HAVE BEEN MET.SO THEY ARE SAYING THAT -- NOT JUST ME SAYING IT.
>> LET ME CHALLENGE THAT THIS WILL BE THE LAST THING AND I LET EVERYONE ELSE SPEAK. IF WE HAVEN'T ESTABLISHED THE OPERATIONS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SPORTS WILL BE PROVIDED, WE DON'T KNOW THE DATES THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN.
WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THE LEVEL OF -- YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT -- YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AP COURSES OR THINGS LIKE THAT, RIGHT? THE AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY THAT IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE PLACE ON THIS CAMPUS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ALL OF THESE THINGS, ALL OF THESE THINGS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A TRADE-OFF.
THERE IS GOING TO BE A TRADE-OFF.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU ARE ASKING US TO ALMOST JUST PUT OUR TRUST AND FAITH IN YOU AND SAY LOOK, WE CAN DO THIS.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, YOU DON'T HAVE -- THE CLAY HASN'T EVEN DRIED. HOW CAN I SAY THAT YOU ARE TRAFFIC STUDIES PROVIDE FOR -- THE THINGS WE SAFE AND FINE WHEN WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS? WHAT IS THE BASELINE THAT YOU ARE USING WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A CLEAR PLAN? THAT IS ME IS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER SAYING, I WILL ASSUME THERE WILL BE 100 TRIPS EVERY DAY. FIND, THAT IS A SAFE ASSUMPTION.
BUT THE ASSUMPTION HAS TO BE BASED OFF OF SOMETHING.
WHEN I SAY HOW DID YOU BASE THAT? DID YOU DECIDE HOW MANY SPORTS GAMES ARE GOING TO BE EACH WEEK AND HOW MANY EXTRACURRICULARS AND THIS EVENT AND THAT? NO. ALL THEY ARE SAYING IS OKAY, WE ADD AN EXTRA 600 STUDENTS, WHICH ABOUT AVERAGE TO PER CAR, MAYBE THAT IS ANOTHER 300 CARS. THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THAT IS ALL THEY CAN DO BECAUSE THE INFORMATION THAT I'M ASKING IF YOU GUYS, WHICH IS WHAT THE MORE DETAIL STUFF IS, IS WHAT I'M NOT GETTING. SO I WOULD IMAGINE THEY HAVE TO RELY ON ASSUMPTIONS, I DON'T WANT US TO RELY ON ASSUMPTIONS, THAT IS MY POINT. IT IS TOO BIG OF A PROJECT.
I WILL RELY ON AN ASSUMPTION ON A TRASH COMPACTOR, MAY BE.
I WILL TAKE THE RISK. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I CAN TAKE
THAT. >> I APPRECIATE THAT, THANK YOU.
>> I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS BECAUSE YOU AND I SHARE SOME CONCERNS.
IF WE HAD TO ENUMERATE THE ISSUES BEYOND THE INTERIOR FOUR WALLS OF THE BUILDING TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC, SAFETY, HEALTH, INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES -- BECAUSE MY CONCERN WAS JUST THAT IT SEEMS WHERE YOU'RE HEADED NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO ADDRESS ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED AT THE LAST MEETING.
AND THAT WAS MY CONCERN FOR THE APPLICANT.
BUT THEY HAVE TRIED TO ADDRESS A NUMBER OF THINGS.
WHICH I TOTALLY APPRECIATE AND APPLAUD THEM FOR.
SO IF WE HAD TO ENUMERATE THE REMAINING ISSUES, I THINK IT IS HELPFUL FOR US IF WE ARTICULATE THOSE AND THEN SEE IF THERE IS A TIME FRAME OR IF THEY CAN'T BE ADDRESSED.
THE EITHER CAN OR CAN'T. >> I THINK -- UNLESS -- I WILL REPEAT IT. TO ME, TRAFFIC IS AN ISSUE.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT STUDIES, THOSE STUDIES ARE BASED OFF OF ASSUMPTIONS, WE ALL KNOW THAT. NUMBER 2 IS I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW, THE STAGGERED APPROACH, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SOLUTION, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WILL BECOME A PROBLEM.
THE STAGGERED APPROACH WILL CREATE A CONSISTENT FLOW OF STUDENTS LEAVING THE SCHOOL. AND IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 50% OF THEM -- ACTUALLY, WE TALKED ABOUT ONLY A VERY SMALL HANDFUL OR GOING TO BE DRIVING. THAT MEANS THE MAJORITY OF KIDS ARE EITHER WALKING, BIKING WERE GETTING PICKED UP, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FOR STAGGERED PICKUPS AND DROP-OFFS, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW LONG THAT WILL RUN.
BUT HOW IS THAT NOT GOING TO CREATE JUST A CORNER OF COMPLETE RISK FOR THE AMOUNT OF STUDENTS AND KIDS WHO ARE CONSTANTLY -- EVERY DAY. AND AGAIN, I LIVE ON THAT AREA, I LIVE IN WATER CREST. I GET THAT YOU GUYS ARE MANAGING THE TRAFFIC, I GET IT. IT IS STILL BAD, YOU ARE MANAGING IT AND IT IS SCHOOL, BUT THE NATURE OF UNIVERSITY.
IT IS NOT A YOUTH THING, IT IS NOT A CHURCH THING, IT IS A TWO-LANE ROAD THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BEFORE LANES IN AN AREA THAT IS TRYING TO GET A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE OUT OF THESE SMALL ARTERIES AND INTO THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE.
SO I THINK -- ACTUALLY, THIS MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY, REALISTICALLY, FOR A WORKSHOP. AND I THINK THAT BECAUSE NOT JUST FOR US, I HAVE A DIALOG WITH YOU ABOUT FOUR OF THESE CONCERNS, AGAIN, I SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE WE ARE TALKING ACROSS EACH OTHER BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE EXPRESS CONCERNS YOU GUYS COME BACK WITH THINGS LIKE HOW YOU ARE PLANNING TO BUILD THE SCHOOL BETTER. THE SCHOOL -- IT IS NOT THE ACADEMICS, IT IS NOT THE PRECOLLEGE CLASSES, ALL OF THAT STUFF IS WHAT WE EXPECT OF YOU, RIGHT? WE EXPECT ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS IN PARKLAND TO BE GRADE A AND
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TOP-OF-THE-LINE. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.I THINK IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW THE COMMUNITY, WHICH HEARING FROM MAR-A-LAGO AND TALKING ABOUT POOR OVER CARS IN PARKING, THE FACT THAT WE'RE ALREADY HAVING THAT CONVERSATION IS A CONCERN, RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY AN ANTICIPATION THAT THERE MAY BE A NEED, OTHERWISE WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT IT, LET'S BE REAL.
>> I THINK SOME OF THE RESIDENTS EXPRESSED THAT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THEY ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS AT 1100 OR WHATEVER.
SO THAT IS WHY THEY WANTED AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE FOR THEM TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AS THE SCHOOL GOT LARGER.
AND AGAIN, I JUST DON'T -- SO I WILL THROW IN A COUPLE OF MINE.
THE TRAFFIC IS AN ISSUE, THE STAGGERED APPROACH.
I CAN ONLY GO ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WILL HEAR FROM OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL WORK.
BUT RATHER OTHER ISSUES THAT WE CAN DEFINE FROM THEM, WHETHER IT IS TO BE ADDRESSED TONIGHT OR IN A WORKSHOP OR ANOTHER MEETING?
>> I MEAN PARKING -- COASTAL IS GOING TO EXPAND, NO DOUBT.
WHEN I THINK ABOUT COASTAL COMMUNITY CHURCH -- AND I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET AT A JASON FROM SOMERSET.
SO COASTAL -- PARKING IS OUT OF CONTROL, TRAFFIC -- NOT EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, IT IS MAINLY ON THE WEEKENDS.
BUT IT IS BAD. AND TO THE COMMISSIONER'S POINT, IT IS A TWO-LANE ROAD, THAT IS NO ONE'S FAULT, THAT IS WHAT IT IS. BUT THAT CREATES PROBLEMS. AND I HAVE ALWAYS SAID, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE PHENOMENAL IN YOUR K-8. I GIVE EVERY CREDIT IN THE WORLD. IT IS JUST THE EXPANSION --
THERE IS CONCERNS. >> A DEFINED OFF-SITE PARKING
PLAN. >> I THINK WE HAVE TO CONSIDER
BOSE THAT? >> THIS IS WHAT I TRIED TO GET AT THE LAST MEETING. BUT WHEN I ASKED FOR A CONCISE
LIST, I COULDN'T GET ONE. >> FAIR ENOUGH.
A DEFINED PARKING PLAN, OFF-SITE AND ON-SITE.
GO AHEAD, CONTINUE. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY, JUST BECAUSE -- TO GIVE JUSTIFICATION TO THE CONCERN, WE ALSO HAVE THE PROPERTY THAT WILL BE OWNED AND BUILT ON.
THIS IS ALL IN THAT SAME AREA THAT IS -- NOT BECAUSE OF ANYONE'S FAULT, CONGESTED. IT IS LIKE THIS RECTANGLE OF CONGESTION. AND THEN I THINK ABOUT HENDRYCKS AND I KNOW NONE OF US HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL.
BUT IT DOES RAISE CONCERNS. I THINK ABOUT WINTERFEST AND THE PRINCIPLE SAYING IT WAS BEAUTIFUL, IT WAS AMAZING.
BUT, YES,, IT WAS PACKED. I PARKED IN THE PUBLIC'S PARKING LOT AND WALKED IN MY HEELS, QUITE A LONG WAY, IT WAS FINE, IT WAS A GOOD WALK. I GOT MY STEPS IN.
BUT I WILL SAY THIS. IT WASN'T IDEAL AND I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE. I SOUGHT KIDS THAT WERE WITH THEIR PARENTS. BUT, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT DOUBLING THAT AND THINKING ABOUT -- AND AGAIN, UNDER FAST WAS AMAZING. BUT WHAT WILL THAT LOOK LIKE? SO TRAFFIC PARKING, STAGGERED APPROACH, I THINK WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THESE THINGS. AND I THINK YOU WERE SAYING, VISE MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN RESPOND TO ALL OF THESE THINGS. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL. BUT WE KNOW WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE FOOTPRINT, ABOUT THE ROADS. GO AHEAD, MAYORS.
>> GO AHEAD AND FINISH. >> YOU KNOW --
>> SO RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE -- WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC.
WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT PARKING. >> I THINK THE TRAFFIC --
>> TRAFFIC AND PARKING, IS THAT --
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- AND I KNOW WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM -- THEY ONLY HAD 13 DAYS, 14 DAYS OR WHATEVER.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES TO ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE ISSUES.
I KNOW THEY ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO DO THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS THROUGH THOSE COMMUNITIES.
BUT THAT WILL BE ANOTHER ISSUE THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK THROUGH. I THINK THAT TRAFFIC AND PARKING
WERE ALL -- >> AND YOU HAD SAID SOMETHING
ABOUT THE STAGGERED APPROACH. >> IT IS ALTOGETHER, RIGHT? AND AGAIN, I AM NOT -- I CANNOT FORCE YOU GUYS TO COME UP WITH AN OPERATIONAL PLAN, RIGHT? BUT I ALSO CAN MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT ONE. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE HYPOTHETICALS AND THE WHAT-IFS.
WE MAY HAVE THIS, WE MAY DO THAT.
AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY, WE CANNOT LIVE IN THAT WORLD.
BECAUSE IF WE WERE, EVERY PERSON CAME BEFORE US WOULD MAKE PROMISES. WE WOULD SAY OH, WELL,, LET'S SEE HOW IT GOES. BUT WE CAN'T, RIGHT?
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SO I THINK IT IS NOT JUST THE TRAFFIC, IT IS NOT JUST THE SURROUNDING AREA, IT IS QUALITY-OF-LIFE.WE'RE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROHIBIT KIDS FROM LOOKING INTO NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL WINDOWS, RIGHT? ONCE WE HAVE THAT -- WE DON'T LIVE IN MANHATTAN, RIGHT? WE SHOULDN'T BE HAVING TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
>> THAT WAS ACTUALLY A REQUEST OF THE NEIGHBORS.
>> AND MY POINT IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE HAVING THE REQUEST MEANS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PUT SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY DOESN'T -- IT IS NOT MESHING WITH EACH OTHER.
WE COULD TALK ABOUT SOME APPROVALS OF A GYMNASIUM.
THE NOISE IS WHAT HAPPENS IN THE GYMNASIUM THAT'S BOTHERING PEOPLE, IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE GAME IS OVER AND ALL OF THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS POUR OUT AT 10:00 AT NIGHT, 9:00 AT NIGHT.
THE WALLS ARE GOING TO SAVE THE NEIGHBORS, RIGHT? I'M JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU. THAT IS THE REALITY.
WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE THINGS WE CAN CONTROL.
WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS THE STUFF THAT'S NOT BEING ADDRESSED. WHEN PARENTS SHOW UP TO PICK UP THEIR KID AN HOUR EARLY BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT PARENTS DO, YOU CAN TELL THEM OVER AND OVER, IT'S NOT YOUR TIME, COME LATER.
THEY ARE STILL DOING IT NOW. AND WHEN I DRIVE IN THE MORNING, THERE ARE STILL SOME DAYS WHEN UNIVERSITY IS AT A STOP, LITERALLY AT A STOP. I GET IT, IT MAY BE RANDOM OR RARE, BUT IT HAPPENS. SO THAT MAY ALSO BE SOMETHING COMING FROM PARKLAND GOLF, WHATEVER BACKS ALL THE WAY UP.
YOU CANNOT YOUR HEAD NO, BUT I LIVE IT.
AND CAN WE -- >> CINDY JUST WALKED OUT.
IF WE CAN TAKE 5 MINUTES? I KNOW JULIO IS CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO GET TO THE MICROPHONE. SO IF WE COULD --
>> THROUGH THE CHAIR -- >> LET'S TAKE 5 MINUTES.
>> MR. MAYOR, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T FINISHED THE PRESENTATION, IN ONE OF THE PRINTABLE TO BE ABLE TO FINISH THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE CAN -- THAN I DO
>> OKAY, THIS IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IF EVERYONE'S OKAY WITH THAT. YOU GUYS FINISH YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND TAKE WHATEVER TIME YOU NEED, WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SOME OF THE PUBLIC IF THEY WANT TO LEAVE AND MAKE SOME COMMENTS AND THEN WE WILL CIRCLE BACK AND WE WILL DECIDE AT THAT POINT DO WE WANT TO DEFER AND GO TO WORKSHOP OR VOTE ON IT OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
>> AT SOME POINT WE CAN DO IT AFTER THE PRESENTATION OF PUBLIC COMMENTS I WOULD LIKE US AS A BODY TO CIRCLE BACK ON UNDEFINED
ISSUES WE NEED TO ADDRESS. >> YES, I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO GIVE -- GIVEN THAT TWO WEEKS AGO BUT IT'S BETTER LATE THAN NEVER.
SOMERSET. >> MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION JUST BRIEFLY AND JUST NOT FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS NOT ABOUT FOR THE RECORD THIS IS JUST POINTS OF CLARIFICATION.
THIS PLAN THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, THAT YOU ARE VOTING ON MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, THIS COMMITTEE ASKED US TO FIND ADDITIONAL AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
AND SO I BELIEVE TODAY BECAUSE AT THE LAST MEETING I WAS AT I WALKED OUTSIDE AND CONGRATULATED MR. KELLEY AND SAID I'VE NEVER BEEN IN A MEETING WHERE THEY SAID TRAFFIC IS NOT AN ISSUE AND THAT YOU HAD ADDRESSED ALL THE CONCERNS ON THE RECORD.
SAID TWO WEEKS AGO. I RESPECT THE COMMENTS TONIGHT AND I UNDERSTAND THEM. I HAVE SAT IN YOUR SHOES, I'VE SAT IN THOSE CHAIRS AND I'VE HAD TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR COMMUNITIES. SO WE UNDERSTAND THE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE WEIGHT THAT'S ON YOUR SHOULDERS.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT SOME OTHER COMMENTS IT'S LIKE WE ADDRESS WHAT WAS ADDRESSED LAST MEETING AND THEN WE MOVE THE TARGET. I GET IT, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT. THAT'S IN YOUR PACKAGE, IT'S BEEN IN YOUR PACKAGE IT WAS STATED BEFORE IT WAS REVIEWED BY YOUR TRAFFIC, HERE IT IS, IT IS CALLED OPERATION MANAGING PLAN.
IT IS THERE. IT SHOWS THE STUDIES.
I WAS NEVER GOING TO BRING THIS UP BUT COMMISSIONER ISROW BROUGHT UP HIS FATHER IN LAW EIGHT YEARS AGO, NINE YEARS AGO AND I LOVE THIS MAN RIGHT HERE, BUT WE WENT AND ON A RISK BECAUSE SOMERSET WAS NOT KNOWN IN THIS COMMUNITY, SOMERSET WAS
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NOT A NAME IN THIS COMMUNITY APPROVE A NAME IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WE WENT AND SAT WITH EACH COMMISSIONER AND ASKED AS WE'VE DONE WITH MANY OF YOU ALONG WITH YOUR ATTORNEY PRESIDENT IN THE ROOM AND ASKED WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO AND HOW CAN WE GET YOU TO TAKE A LEAP OF FAITH, BACK THEN IT WAS A LEAP OF FAITH BUT I WAS CONFIDENT BECAUSE OF OUR TRACK RECORD THAT WE WERE GOING TO FULFILL AND WE WERE GOING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.AND HERE WE ARE TODAY AND WE HAVE.
IS A PERFECT, IS NOT PERFECT. AND I WOULD PRESS YOU THAT ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU HAVE DONE APPROVED IS A PERFEC, IT IS NO NOT. IF THE CHURCH NEEDS ADDITIONAL PARKING AND YOU WANT GRANT THAT AND YOU WANT US TO WORK WITH THEM TO GRANT THEM PARKING ON SUNDAYS AT OUR SCHOOL, WE WOULD DO THAT IN EVERY COMMUNITY. WE WOULD DO THAT IN EVERY COMMUNITY. WE ARE HERE, WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. WE DON'T DEVELOP SCHOOLS OR THEN SELL THEM OR TRADE THEM OFF, WE ARE HERE.
30 YEARS AND WE CONTINUE TO GROW ACROSS NOT ONLY THE STATE BUT ACROSS THIS NATION AND INTERNATIONALLY.
BUT IT'S BECAUSE I CAN STAND UP HERE AND TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE A PRODUCT THAT IS PROVEN. I WAS LATE TO DAY I WAS WEARING MY FATHER'S HAT, I WAS AT A SCHOOL THAT WAS GRADUATING 430 STUDENTS. GREAT ACCOLADES MOST OF THEM BUT ONE THING AND I APPRECIATE THE LONG DISCUSSION THAT ALLOWED ME TO STAY AT THE AWARD CEREMONY LONGER,.
>> YOU ARE WELCOME. >> I DID APPRECIATE THAT, I REALLY DID IT REMINDED ME ALSO WHY I NEVER WANT TO BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AGAIN BUT THE MOST IMPACTING THING AT SOMERSET CHAPEL TRAIL AND I'M SURE MARGO WILL TELL ME WORDS AND WE CAN SEE THAT TO MORROW, 123 STUDENTS, 123 OUT OF 430 HAVE BEEN IN SOMERSET SYSTEM FROM PRE-K TO 12TH GRADE.
THAT WAS THE GROUP THAT GOT THE LARGEST APPLAUSE.
TOP OF THE CLASS, THEY EVEN GAVE TWO SENIORS THAT WENT TO SCHOOL FOR THE WHOLE YEAR I THINK YOU SHOULD GO TO SCHOOL BUT ONLY TWO OF THEM OUT OF 431 AS SENIORS. AND AS I WAS DRIVING HERE 37 MINUTES TO GET HERE, I WAS SAYING THAT IS WHAT WE WANT, THAT IS WHAT THIS COMMUNITY DESERVES.
IS THAT WHEN WE GET TO FIRST GRADUATING CLASS WOULD BE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, TO BE ABLE TO HONOR THOSE THAT HAD BEEN THERE FROM THE BEGINNING. SO I WOULD LIKE RESPECTFULLY MR. MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS IF THE PRINCIPAL CAN FINISH HER PRESENTATION AND THEN WE WILL FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS AS
PROVIDED BY THE MAYOR. >> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN COMMISSIONER, AS WE MOVE ON I WANT TO -- I. WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FROM THE HEART.
WE HAVE ALL THE POWERPOINTS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY SHARE AND HOPE THAT HAD A BETTER UNDERSTANDING TODAY OF WHAT AT THE END OF THE DAY I FEEL LIKE WHAT WE HAVE BUILT AT SOMERSET PARKLAND HAS BEEN PROVEN WE ARE AS I SAID EARLIER A HIGH PERFORMING CHARTER SCHOOL, WE HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED IN SUCH A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AS A SCHOOL OF EXCELLENCE. WE RANK WITHIN THE TOP 10% IN ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL, WE ARE THE NUMBER 1 BEST PUBLIC CASE K THROUGH EIGHT SCHOOL IN THE COUNTY.
NOT CHARTER, PUBLIC SCHOOL. SO WHY STAND BEFORE YOU ASKING TO GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT THROUGH.
AND I KNOW TRAFFIC IS A CONCERN, I HAVE HEARD IT.
INSTEAD OF HAVING PARENTS COMING TO OUR CAMPUS AND THEN HAVING TO DRIVE TO MSD, OR TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL, IF THERE WAS ONE STOP AND THEN THEY EITHER GO TO WORK OR GO HOME.
THAT WILL ELIMINATE SOME VEHICLES OFF THE ROADS.
BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST GOING TO THAT ONE LOCATION.
WE HAVE PROVEN OURSELVES IN THE LAST SIX YEARS THAT WE ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY WITH NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES BUT WHY NOT ALLOW US TO CONTINUE AND SEEING OUR STUDENTS AND OUR FAMILIES ALL
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THE WAY THROUGH? I HOPE THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND MAYBE ONE DAY WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, WE'RE ALREADY PLANNING IT FOR OUR FIFTH GRADE GRADUATES BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY OUR KINDERGARTNERS THAT WILL BE PROMOTED TO MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US SINCE KINDERGARTEN AND WE WILL HAVE EIGHTH GRADERS AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE OUR 12TH GRADERS AT SOME POINT THAT ARE GOING TO BE OUR LEGACY STUDENTS BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN WITH US THROUGHOUT THEIR ENTIRE EDUCATIONAL.>> PRESIDENT TRUMP: PROCESS. AND SO I LEAVE YOU WITH A COUPLE OF THINGS WE ARE CURRENTLY IN FAST TESTING AND I DO WANT TO SHARE BECAUSE WE MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I AM SHOWING OUR EIGHTH GRADE DATA ONLY BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO SEE HOW WELL WE ARE PREPARING OUR STUDENTS SO I KNOW THAT THERE IS CONCERN FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY AND WHAT HAPPENS AFTER A GAME WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A HIGH SCHOOL 600 STUDENTS AVERAGE SPORTS HOLD 20 TO 25 PLAYERS AT MOST.
HOW MANY PARENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN A SCHOOL THAT IS MUCH SMALLER THAN A LARGE SCHOOL. WHAT KIND OF IMPACT WOULD THAT HAVE? LOOK AT OUR DATA.
OUR DATA SHOWS THAT WE HAVE STUDENTS AND FAMILIES THAT ARE COMMITTED TO EDUCATION AND I FEEL THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH WHAT TRANSPIRES OUTSIDE THE CLASSROOM.
BEHAVIORS THAT ARE TAUGHT. WHAT COMMITMENTS PARENTS HAVE TOWARDS THEIR CHILDREN AND THE COMMUNITY.
AND THE DATA, WE OUTPERFORMED THE STATE AND THE DISTRICT BY ANYWHERE BETWEEN 15 TO ALMOST 40% WHEN IT COMES TO ELA AND MATH. THE ALGEBRA STUDENTS AND GEOMETRY STUDENTS THOSE ARE HIGH SCHOOL CREDIT COURSES THAT ARE BEING DONE BY THE MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS AND SO I JUST WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH A THOUGHT.
IF YOU'VE DONE IT FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS AND WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AS K THROUGH EIGHT TO PLEASE CONSIDER GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE TO YOU SIX YEARS FROM NOW THAT WE HAVE A SUCCESSFUL K THROUGH 12 CAMPUS AND THAT YOU CAN GO TO SCHOOL -- SLEEP AT NIGHT KNOWING THAT YOU MADE A GOOD DECISION AND SO I WILL END IT WITH I FEEL THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF TONIGHT AND IT IS HEARING FROM SOMERSET STUDENTS THEMSELVES.
WHERE IS THE AUDIO? HOW DO WE DO AUDIO?
>> I JUST RAISED THE VOLUME BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL BE ABLE
TO HEAR IT. >> THINGS AREN'T PERFECT BUT IT'S HOW WE OVERCOME THEM AND HOW WE CAN HANDLE ANY CHALLENGES
THAT COME OUR WAY. >> SUCH AS THE PROGRAM OR ADVANCED PLACEMENT PROGRAMS OR EVEN THE AP PROGRAM.
>> THIS SCHOOL HAS OPENED UP SO MANY ACADEMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR
ME THAT NO OTHER SCHOOL CAN. >> BEING A SCHOLAR HAS REALLY IMPACTED MY PERSONAL GROWTH, I MADE THE SAME FRIENDS WHEN I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD AND NOW WE ARE GRADUATING TOGETHER.
THE SCHOOL IS DEFINITELY CLOSE TO MY HEART BECAUSE I WENT HERE FOR SO LONG. I WOULD CALL IT A SECOND HOME.
>> SORRY. >> BECAUSE I WAS JUST HERE FOR
SO LONG. >> I LOVE HOW EVERYONE IS CLOSE WITH EACH OTHER AND THE PEOPLE AT THE OFFICE.
>> WE LOVE WORKING WITH CHILDREN.
>> THIS HAS TAUGHT ME HOW TO LOVE AND HOW TO GROW AS A PERSON THROUGH RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
>> GETTING THE 2 DEGREES BEFORE GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL IS MONUMENTAL NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT'S SUPPORTING MY OWN EDUCATION AND THE GROWTH OF MY KNOWLEDGE BUT I THINK ON A MORE PERSONAL LEVEL
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IT REALLY HELPED ME FIND THAT WORK-LIFE BALANCE.>> BEING HERE AS A PANTHER FOR LIFE OR AS WE SAY FROM KINDERGARTEN TO 12TH GRADE WAS JUST SO PHENOMENAL FOR ME BECAUSE I GREW UP KNOWING THE CAMPUS.
>> I LIKED THE SCHOOL TO HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE I LIKE THE
GREAT OPPORTUNITIES. >> YOU GRADUATE FROM SOMERSET HIGH BECAUSE I WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE FRIENDS AND TEACHERS AND WATCH THEM GROW UP. I HOPE THE CITY APPROVED THIS
REQUEST. >> I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GRADUATE FROM SOMERSET PARKWOOD BECAUSE THIS IS MY HOME.
>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR THAT ENDS OUR PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU. SO DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE OR ARE YOU GOOD? CAITLIN, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE
SOMETHING. >> JUST FOR THE RECORD, WHILE WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION JUST HAD TWO NOTES I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU, FIRST ON THE REVISED OPERATIONAL PHASING PLANS WITH A TEMPORARY SPACES AS THE SOMERSET TEAM MENTIONED WE DID SHARE THAT WITH ENGINEERING AND FIRE NEITHER HAD CONCERNS AFTER THE APPLICANT TEAM ADDRESSED THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS THAT WERE ISSUED. JUST A NOTE ON THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE TEMPORARY SPACES IT WAS INDICATED FROM A SOMERSET TEAM THAT THOSE WOULD BE MARKED FOR VISITOR SPACES AND THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE USED DURING PICKUP OR DROP OFF TIMES SO THAT IT'S ONLY DURING REAL SCHOOL OPERATING HOURS.
SO TO NOT IMPEDE TRAFFIC FLOW IN THE OUTBOUND DIRECTION.
ALSO DURING THE PERMITTING PROCESS WE WOULD OF COURSE MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE STRIKED TO THE PARALLEL PARKING STANDARDS WHICH THE TEAM INDICATED THEY ALREADY WERE CONTEMPLATING IN THE PLAN -- MOCK-UPS. AND THEN IN REGARDS TO ANY OFF-SITE PARKING, THE TEAM WAS STILL NEED TO MAINTAIN ANY REQUIRED MINIMUM REQUIRED PARKING SPACES AND RATIOS ON SITES WITH THE PARKING THAT ONE FOR STUDENTS, ONE TO ONE FOR THE FACULTY AND THEN THE VISITOR RATIOS CAN AT THEIR DISCRETION.
SO THERE'S A MINIMUM THAT'S REQUIRED ON SITE SO IT'S NOT LIKE ALL 200 SPACES COULD BECOME STUDENT PARKING AND EVERY STAFF MEMBER WOULD PARK ELSEWHERE OFF-SITE.
JUST SO JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT ON THE RECORD.
>> WE HAVE ONE PERSON THAT SIGNED UP HERE.
WE GOT YOU UP THERE FASTER THAN YOU THOUGHT.
>> THANK YOU FOR TAKING ME. I LIVE IN MAR A LAGO AND I MOVED TO PARKLAND BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A RESORT WITH A WONDERFUL FOLIAGE AND GREENERY. I DID NOT REALIZE THAT THE HIGH SCHOOL WILL BE BUILT AFTER THE GRADE SCHOOL WAS BUILT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF SPACE. AND I REALLY FEEL LIKE IT IS GOING TO BE A CRAMPED CAMPUS WITH VERY LITTLE GREENERY.
NOT VERY ATTRACTIVE. FOR PARKLAND.
I ALSO FEEL YOU ARE GLOSSING OVER THE TRAFFIC.
THERE IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SCHOOL EVENTUALLY AND ALSO THERE IS MORE DEVELOPER -- A. LOT MORE DEVELOPMENT. I HAVE TO GO BY THERE TO BRING MY GRANDCHILDREN BACK AND FORTH TO SCHOOL ON AT LEAST 20 MINUTES IN THE LINE. YOU PUT A HIGH SCHOOL THERE AND YOU WILL HAVE NOT ONLY THE LOCAL TRAFFIC WERE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TEENAGERS COMING, PARENTS WILL LET THEIR KIDS DRIVE TO SCHOOL ESPECIALLY WHEN THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE OUTSIDE OF PARKLAND.
AND WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK WIN WE JUST GOT THIS NICE PARK AND I KNOW THAT'S WHERE THEY WILL CHOOSE TO PARK.
AND THEY DON'T BELONG THERE AND I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE ACQUIESCING AND SETTLING, WE WILL GET SOME PARKING OVER AT THIS CHURCH, WE WILL GET PARKING HERE, WHY ARE WE MAKING THESE AMENDMENTS? YOU NEED A SCHOOL THAT WILL HAVE ENOUGH PARKING.
TRAFFIC, THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY, I THINK I HOPE YOU GIVE IT SOME CONSIDERATION. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA, I THINK YOU ARE VERY SHARP AND BUBBLY I THINK YOU ARE A GREAT PRINCIPAL BUT PARKLAND SHOULD NOT HAVE TO SETTLE TO FIT A HIGH SCHOOL IN THIS LITTLE AREA WHEN WE HAVE OTHER AREAS TO CHOOSE FROM HERE AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. >> HELLO GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, I AM A SOMERSET PARKLAND PARENT AND A PARKLAND RESIDENT SINCE 2018. I CURRENTLY HAVE A FIRST GRADER IN SOMERSET AND I'M SO GRATEFUL THE CITY APPROVED THAT BEAUTIFUL
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SCHOOL DURING SUCH A ROUGH TIME FOR ALL THE COVID 19 YEARS.I'M SURE THE IDEA OF OPENING A SCHOOL DURING SUCH TIMES WAS NOT THE IDEAL SITUATION BUT I'M SO PROUD AND GRATEFUL THAT THE SCHOOLS THRIVED AND CONTINUES TO THRIVE THROUGH ANY ADVERSITY.
I HEAR THE CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND -- CONSTRUCTION AND SUCH ITEMS, AND THESE ITEMS WOULD AFFECT ME AS WELL JUST BECAUSE I AM THIS PARENT DOESN'T MAKE ME IMMUNE TO THEM.
BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING I KNOW ABOUT MY CITY IS THAT WE KNOW HOW TO ADAPT AND PIVOT AND ADJUST.
NOTHING GOOD COMES WITHOUT ANY PUSHBACK, NO ROUNDABOUTS, PARKS OR DOWNTOWN SHOPS. I'M SURE YOU AS COMMISSIONERS, THE MAYOR, HAVE HEARD COMMENTS ABOUT PUSHBACK REGARDING THE UPCOMING CONSTRUCTION OF THE WEDGE PARK AND THE VILLAGE IN HOWMEH. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE VILLAGE IS MORE OF AN EXPANSION AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES RIGHT NOW, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET THROUGH IS THAT THERE IS -- THE CORE BASIS HERE THERE IS A BELIEF YOU GUYS AS PARKLAND RESIDENTS AND COMMISSIONERS BELIEVE THROUGH YOUR STUDIES THAT THESE PROJECTS I MENTIONED WILL BE GREAT. AS DO I, I CAN'T WAIT FOR IT TO BE BUILT. I ALSO CAN'T WAIT FOR THE PARK TO OPEN AND HAVE MY CHILD BIKE THERE AND PRETEND TO BE A WARRIOR WITH ITS NEW STAFF. I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW THE DISRUPTION TRAFFIC AND HASSLE THAT COMES WITH SOMETHING GREAT THAT WILL BE WORTH IT. AND WITH SUMMERS EXPANDING INTO A HIGH SCHOOL THAT IS MY BELIEF, MY SCHOOL'S BELIEF AND KNOWLEDGE THROUGH THE RESEARCH AND STUDIES.
WE BELIEVE THAT THIS UNCOMFORTABLE THOUGHT OF CONSTRUCTION, TRAFFIC AND COST DURING THIS DIFFERENT PHASE WILL BE GREAT AND WORTH IT. I GUARANTEE THAT THE PARENTS THAT ARE CHOOSING TO BE A SOMERSET WILL BE THANKFUL I KNOW I WILL APPEAR I'M ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AWAY FROM MY CHILD BEING A HIGH SCHOOLER. I WAS THERE ONE TIME WHEN PARK -- WHEN IT WAS BEING BUILT, I WAS THERE WHEN THEY WERE OCCUPYING THE LARGE. I'M COMING TO YOU TO PLEASE APPROVE SOMERSET TO BE K TO 12 AND LET OUR COWBOYS GROW, PARKLAND BE PROUD OF HAVING THE FIRST K TO THRIVE AND SHOW THE RESIDENTS THEY NOW HAVE AN EXTRA CHOICE TO SEND THEIR HIGH SCHOOLERS TO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
>> THANK YOU. >> VANESSA WALLACE.
FOLLOWED BY ANGELA MCRAE. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION MY NAME IS VANESSA WALLACE I'M HERE AS A PROUD PARENT OF TWO STUDENTS AT SOMERSET PARKLAND ACADEMY TO URGE YOUR FULL SUPPORT FOR OUR SCHOOLS K THROUGH 12 EXPANSION. BOTH OF MY CHILDREN HAVE BEEN -- HAVE ABSOLUTELY THRIVED. AS A PARENT MY GREATEST WISH IS FOR THEM TO CONTINUE THIS JOURNEY AND IN THE PLACE THEY LOVE ALL THROUGH THEIR 12TH GRADE GRADUATION HERE AT SOMERSET WE ARE NOT JUST AN INSTITUTION, WE ARE A FAMILY THAT SAYS A FAMILY IS WOVEN INTO EVERYTHING THEY DO AND IS WHY SO MANY OF US CHOOSE TO PUT DOWN OUR ROOTS RIGHT HERE IN THIS IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE LIVE SO CLOSE THAT OUR KIDS CAN WALK OR RIDE THEIR BIKES TO SCHOOL.
COMPLETELY AVOIDING THE CAR LINES.
KEEPING OUR CHILDREN'S LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL MEANS MAINTAINING THAT ACTIVE HEALTHY AND DEEPLY CONNECTED NEIGHBORHOOD LIFESTYLE. WHAT MAKES OUR SCHOOL SO INCREDIBLY SPECIAL IS THE TIGHT KNIT SMALL SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT.
THE REALITY IS THAT SOME CHILDREN SIMPLY LEARN BETTER IN A SMALLER SETTING WHERE THEY DO NOT GET LOST IN THE CROWD.
AT SPA OUR STUDENTS KNOW -- OUR TEACHERS KNOW EVERY STUDENT'S PASSIONS AND STRUGGLES ON A PERSONAL LEVEL.
THEY CAN COLLABORATE TO GUIDE THEM TOWARDS THE CLASSES, PROGRAMS AND SUPPORT THEY NEED TO SUCCEED.
YOU DON'T GET THAT KIND OF DEEPLY PERSONALIZED FLEXIBLE GUIDANCE AND A MASSIVE OVERWHELMING HIGH SCHOOL.
WALK DOWN THE HALLWAYS AND THE TEACHERS GREET MY CHILDREN BY NAME. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY'VE EVER HAD THEM IN CLASS. WE KNOW THIS EXPANSION SO OUR KIDS DON'T LOSE THAT VITAL CUSTOM TAILORED SUPPORT SYSTEM RIGHT WHERE THEY HAD THEIR MOST CRUCIAL HIGH SCHOOL YEARS PEER EXPANDING SOMERSET PARKLAND IS ABOUT KEEPING OUR FAMILY AND GIVING OUR KIDS THE EXACT ENVIRONMENT THEY NEED TO SUCCEED ALL THE WAY TO THE FINISH LINE. PLEASE SUPPORT THIS EXPANSION,
>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS ANGELA MCRAE AND I'M HERE TONIGHT AS A PROUD MEMBER OF THE SOMERSET PARKLAND ACADEMY FAMILY.
WHEN OUR FAMILY CHOSE SOMERSET WE WERE LOOKING FOR MORE THAN A SCHOOL. WE WERE LOOKING FOR A PLACE WHERE OUR CHILDREN WOULD FEEL SUPPORTED, CHALLENGED AND CARED FOR EVERY DAY. WE HAVE FOUND A COMMUNITY THAT HAS HELPED OUR CHILDREN GROW IN CONFIDENCE, MOTIVATED AND COMPASSIONATE YOUNG PEOPLE. FOR MANY OF OUR STUDENTS THESE
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CAMPUS HAS BECOME A SECOND HOME, THE TEACHERS, STAFF AND ENVIRONMENT HAVE CREATED A SENSE OF STABILITY AND BELONGING THAT IS DIFFICULT TO REPLACE. THAT IS WHY IT IS SO HARD KNOWING THAT AFTER MIDDLE SCHOOL OUR CHILDREN ARE NOW LEFT BEHIND THIS PLACE. WHERE THEY HAVE BUILT A STRONG RELATIONSHIP, DEVELOPED CONFIDENCE AND FOUND INSPIRATION. THE TRANSITION TO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SCHOOL DURING THE HIGH SCHOOL YEARS CAN BE A -- OVERWHELMING FOR MANY STUDENTS. EXPANDING SOMERSET PARKLAND ACADEMY TO INCLUDE HIGH SCHOOL WOULD GIVE FAMILIES THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE THEIR EDUCATION JOURNEY THEY INTENTIONALLY STARTED YEARS AGO. A SOMERSET HIGH SCHOOL WILL PROVIDE A UNIQUE OPTION FOR FAMILIES WHO ARE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING FOR A SMALLER MORE PERSONAL AND INTIMATE SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT FOR THEIR CHILDREN. NOT EVERY STUDENT THRIVES IN A LARGE SCHOOL SETTING. MANY STUDENTS BENEFIT FROM BEING IN A CLOSE-KNIT COMMUNITY WHERE THEY ARE RECOGNIZED, SUPPORTED AND GIVEN THE ATTENTION THEY NEED TO SUCCEED.WE UNDERSTAND THE CONSTRUCTION AND EXPANSION MAY TEMPORARILY IMPACT THE COMMUNITY. CHANGE CAN SOMETIMES BE INCONVENIENT. BUT GROWTH AND PROGRESS OFTEN REQUIRE TEMPORARY SACRIFICES. THIS IMPROVEMENTS ARE INVESTMENTS IN OUR CHILDREN, OUR FAMILIES AND THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY. THE SHORT TERM DISRUPTION WOULD LEAD TO LONG TERM OPPORTUNITIES FOR GENERATIONS OF STUDENTS TO COME. THIS IS NOT ONLY ABOUT CONVENIENCE, IT IS ABOUT CONTINUED -- CONTINUITY, OPPORTUNITY AND INVESTING IN STUDENTS THROUGH SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT YEARS OF THEIR LIVES.
OUR CHILDREN DESERVE THE CHANCE TO CONTINUE LEARNING IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY ALREADY FEEL SAFE, VALUED AND ENCOURAGED TO SUCCEED. WE SINCERELY HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER SUPPORTING THIS PROPOSAL AND HELPING PROVIDE A STRONGER FUTURE FOR OUR STUDENTS AND FAMILIES.
>> THAT'S ALL THE ASSIGNED SPEAKERS.
>> ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC? ONCE I CLOSE IT IS CLOSED.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS.
I HAVE NOT MADE TOO MANY COMMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR I ITEM. I AM A BIG FAN AND SUPPORTER OF SOMERSET I THINK MISS CASTRO HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB AT THAT SCHOOL AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK UNDERSTANDABLY, ALWAYS GET NERVOUS WHENEVER YOU ARE APPROVING ANYTHING NEW, YOU WORRY ABOUT TRAFFIC, THAT IS TYPICALLY THE BIG THING WE WORRY ABOUT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY ANYTHING YOU DO THAT IS THE FIRST THING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT. BUT IN 2018, 2019 WHEN THIS FIRST WAS APPROVED, A MEMBER OF THIS ROOM WAS FULL OF PEOPLE IN RED SHIRTS OR WHATEVER COLOR, THEY WERE WEARING SAYING HOW BAD THE TRAFFIC WAS GOING TO BE, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE DOWNFALL OF PARKLAND AND THE SKY WAS FALLING AND EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO FALL APART. AND THAT NEVER MATERIALIZED.
YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER DID A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THE ORIGINAL DESIGN AND A LOT OF THOSE CONCERNS JUST NEVER CAME TO FRUITION WHICH IS GOOD. WHICH IT MEANT HE DID HIS JOB PROPERLY. AND IT MAKES ME FEEL COMFORTABLE KNOWING NOW YOU HAVE THE SAME PERSON DOING THE SAME DESIGNS, MAKING THE SAME ASSUMPTIONS, MAKING ADDITIONAL CHANGES, GETTING RID OF THE JERSEY WALL AND ADDING ADDITIONAL STACKING AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE BEING ADDED.
AND WHILE ON THE SURFACE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE ADDING A THOUSAND STUDENTS, IN REALITY WE KNOW THAT WILL NOT BE THE CASE BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT GO TO SOMERSET NOW LIKE THAT YOU CAN GO THERE FROM K THROUGH EIGHT AND YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE AS MUCH PARTICIPATION GOING THERE BECAUSE THE K TO 12 MODEL IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE POPULAR AS TIME GOES ON.
IT IS MUCH MORE CONVENIENT FOR PARENTS, NOW EVERYBODY WORKS, MOMS BOTH PARENTS ARE WORKING, IN HOMES NOW MORE SO THAN EVER BEFORE AND TO BE ABLE TO DROP BOTH OF YOUR KIDS OR THREE OF YOUR KIDS OR IN MY CASE FIVE OF YOUR KIDS OFF AT THE SAME SCHOOL
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AT THE SAME TIME IS INCREDIBLY CONVENIENT.I KNOW MY WIFE, SHE HAD TO GO TO PARK TRAILS AND SHE HAD TO GO TO WEST GLADES AND SHE HAD TO GO OVER HERE, GO OVER THERE.
IT WAS A LOT. TO BE ABLE TO JUST GO TO ONE-STOP SHOP IS AMAZING. SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG REASONS WHY THE K THROUGH 12 MODEL HAS REALLY TAKEN A FOOT.
SO AGAIN, WITH THE ROUNDABOUT, I'M NOT A FAN OF BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S THE FIRST THING I WILL GET BLAMED FOR EVEN THOUGH I MADE IT PUBLIC IT WAS NOT MY IDEA.
AS LONG AS WE KNOW IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE CHOSEN TO DO, I DO LIKE ROUNDABOUTS. I THOUGHT THIS ROUNDABOUT, EVEN WHEN WE SAID THE ROUNDABOUT AT THE PARK.
I REMEMBER PEOPLE SAYING YOU'RE DOING A ROUNDABOUT? ARE YOU KIDDING ME. AND THAT ROUNDABOUT IS AMAZING.
FIRST OF ALL IT'S ONLY THREE -- IT'S ONLY THREE LANES.
IT REALLY ALLOWS TRAFFIC TO FLOW VERY EASILY.
SO THE THREE LANE OR THREE TURN WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT ROUNDABOUT IS OBVIOUSLY MUCH SAFER, MUCH FASTER THAN YOUR FULL FOUR-LANE ROUNDABOUT. I THINK SHORT TERM THAT IS GOOD AND WHEN I SAY SHORT TERM, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WENDY HENDRICKS SELLING FOR PROBABLY THE LAST 15 YEARS SO WHO KNOWS WHEN AND IF THAT WILL EVER HAPPEN WHO KNOWS WHEN THAT IS, WE CAN TRY TO PREPARE FOR THAT ADDING ADDITIONAL SPACE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL I THINK IS A BENEFIT TO THE CITY OF PARKLAND EVEN IF WE DON'T GET 100% ATTENDANCE FROM PARKLAND RESIDENTS, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD REPEAT -- WE WOULD INSPIRE TO SEE AND SOMETHING WE WOULD APPRECIATE BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS PARENTS WILL CHOOSE.
I THINK HAVING THOSE CHOICES IS HUGELY IMPORTANT FOR ANY COMMUNITY, ANY COMMUNITY THAT HAS AN OPTION TO SAY I WANT TO GO TO A BIG HIGH SCHOOL, I WANT TO GO TO A SMALL HIGH SCHOOL, I WANT TO GO TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL WHEREVER YOU WANT TO GO.
NOW PARKLAND HAS ALL THE OPTIONS.
IT JUST ADDS AN EXTRA LAYER OF CONVENIENCE FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU WANT TO GO TO A BIG SITE -- HIGH SCHOOL YOU HAVE THIS ONE, YOU WANT TO GO TO A SMALL ONE YOU HAVE SOMERSET.
FOR ME I THINK SOMERSET HAS PROVEN THEIR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH THIS COMMISSION, THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES I KNOW, I TEASE YOU GUYS A COUPLE OF TIMES HERE BUT TWO WEEKS AGO I ASKED FOR A LIST, I KNOW EVERYONE MET WITH THEM INDIVIDUALLY. SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE A LOT OF THOSE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
I NEVER REALLY GOT A HANDLE ON A FULL DETAILED LIST BUT I FELT A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION WE HAD THE OTHER DAY OR THE OTHER MEETING GOT ADDRESSED IN THIS PARTICULAR MEETING.
TRAFFIC IS ALWAYS A WORRY BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COMPLAIN. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY IT IS HORRIBLE, WHATEVER, BUT I DO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE TRAFFIC PLAN THAT YOU LAID OUT. I THINK YOU DID A FANTASTIC JOB WITH YOUR PRESENTATION AT THE LAST MEETING, DETAILING THE ADDITIONAL STACKING THE JERSEY WALL, AND HAVING ADDITIONAL LAYERS OF SAFETY NET IN CASE WE HAD TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS BUT I KNOW EVEN AT THIS POINT WE ARE STILL NOT USING THE FULL STACKING. I THINK ADDING THE EXTRA STAGING ZONE, I THINK THAT ALLEVIATES TRAFFIC ISSUES.
YOU DON'T WANT EVERYONE COMING AT THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME ALTHOUGH YOU WILL BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE PARENTS DROPPING OFF MULTIPLE GRADES. YOU WILL HAVE THAT.
WHICH AGAIN, LESSENS THE TRAFFIC BURDEN.
IT DOESN'T ADD TO IT. AS FAR AS KIDS PARKING IN PUBLIC, IT'S EASY FOR US TO PUT A STOP ON.
IT'S VERY EASY FOR THE PRINCIPAL TO DO THE SAME THING.
AS FAR AS WEDGE PRESERVE PARK, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN ENTERTAINING ANY OVERFLOW PARKING AT WEDGE PRESERVE PARK AND TO ADDRESS THE PARKING, I THINK THE ASK AT COASTAL WAS MORE WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU HAD A HUGE EVENT AND YOU NEEDED ADDITIONAL PARKING, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU WOULD BE PARKING THERE
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EVERY DAY BECAUSE YOU ALREADY MEETING OTHER PARKING STANDARDS THAT NEED TO BE MET FOR STUDENTS, FOR FACULTY, FOR VISITORS, FOR WHATEVER. SO ALL OF THOSE STUDIES AND ALL OF THOSE ASSUMPTIONS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE ON YOUR SIDE, I LOVE THE GYM. I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT.I LOVE THE ADDITION OF THE SECOND FLOOR.
WITH THE TRACK. I THINK THIS SCHOOL LOOKS FANTASTIC. AND LET'S BE HONEST, YOU WANT YOUR BUILDINGS MORE CLOSE TOGETHER.
IF YOU HAVE A WALL FROM ONE END TO THE SCHOOL TO THE OTHER YOU DON'T WANT TO BE ON A SPRAWLING 25-ACRE LOT WHERE YOU ARE WALKING HALF A MILE TO GET SOMEWHERE.
YOU WANT EVERYTHING SOMEWHAT CONDENSED.
IS IT A LITTLE TIGHT, SURE IT IS.
BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE CERTAIN NUMBERS YOU NEED TO MAKE TO MAKE ALL THE GRADES WORK. SO MAYBE 1800 WOULD BE BETTER MAYBE WHATEVER AS FAR AS WE ARE CONCERNED FOR SIZE AND DENSITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT OBVIOUSLY THE NUMBERS NEED TO WORK FOR THE NUMBERS TO WORK. SO FOR ME, I UNDERSTAND EVERYONE'S CONCERNS HERE BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO MAKE SURE I MADE IT CLEAR WHERE I STOOD.
I'M GOING TO BE WITH YOU GUYS IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY TRYING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP, I DON'T THINK WE NEED A CONCISE LIST NECESSARILY AT THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTURE.
FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST GO AHEAD AND LET'S MOVE ON WITH IT BUT WHAT YOU GUYS WANT TO DO IS I AM HERE TO SUPPORT YOU GUYS AS MUCH AS I AM MORE SO THAN I AM TO SUPPORT SOMERSET OBVIOUSLY BUT FOR ME, I THINK THEY'VE WORKED VERY HARD, THEY'VE SHOWN A TRUE DEDICATION TO MAKING SURE ALL OF OUR CONCERNS ARE MET.
WILL THEY MEET ALL OF OUR CONCERNS, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET EVERYBODY FEELING 100% COMFORTABLE BUT I DO BELIEVE THIS IS THE RIGHT MOVE, IT IS A GOOD MOVE, FOR THE CITY OF PARKLAND, I THINK IT IS THE RIGHT DECISION TO MAKE AND I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT PARTNER TO WORK WITH FOR SURE BECAUSE I HAVE 100% FAITH IN THE ARCHITECT YOU ARE GREAT, THE TRAFFIC GUY, YOU GUYS, SCOTT YOU'RE ALL ALL RIGHT.
BUT ANYWAY THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON THAT.
SO WE JUST HAVE TO DECIDE HERE I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT -- I. DON'T THINK -- I. HAVE NOT HEARD A CONSENSUS FROM EVERYONE UP HERE THAT WANTS TO JUST TOTALLY SQUASH THIS AND SAY NO, I FEEL THERE IS A WILLINGNESS AMONGST US TO AT LEAST MAYBE THERE'S SOME MORE QUESTIONS OR A COUPLE MORE THINGS, A COUPLE MORE POINTS WE NEED TO WORK OUT. SO IF THAT IS A WORKSHOP, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF YOU GUYS TO SEE WHAT YOU ARE FEELING ON NEXT STEPS.
ANYBODY? >> I'M NOT GOING TO PASS THE
GAVEL. >> AND WE CAN DO IT AT A WORKSHOP IF WE NEED TO. I WOULD LIKE TO EVENTUALLY END THIS WAS WHAT I WAS GETTING AT LAST MEETING WHICH WAS GIVE THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO ABSORB THE OPEN ISSUES AND HAVE SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF TIME, I DID NOT -- I. DID NOT THINK TWO WEEKS WAS GOING TO DO IT, SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF TIME TO SEE IF THEY CAN FULLY ADDRESS THOSE AND THEY HAVE ADDRESSED IN MY MEETINGS WITH THEM, TO THEIR CREDIT BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL PROFESSIONALS, THEY'VE ADDRESSED A NUMBER OF THE ISSUES.
IT STILL SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE SOME OPEN ISSUES SO WE CANNOT TALK OUTSIDE OF THIS LOBBY, THE OTHER CHALLENGE.
WORKING WITH STAFF FOR A YEAR, WE'VE HAD A TOTAL OF THREE OR FOUR HOURS OF COLLECTIVE DISCUSSION TIME AMONGST THE FIVE OF US. THAT IS PART OF THE IMPEDIMENT WHICH I GET. I'M WHOLLY SUPPORTIVE IF WE WANT TO GIVE THEM A LIST TONIGHT, IF WE WANT TO GO -- WE HAVE SOME ARTICULATED THING, GO TO A WORKSHOP AND THEN SCHEDULE FOR THE NEXT MEETING WHATEVER IT MAY BE TO GIVE THEM A FAIR OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS DEFINED ISSUES.
>> I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND FIGURE OUT NEXT STEPS BUT LET'S TAKE FOR INSTANCE TRAFFIC. THIRD TRAFFIC ENGINEER ALONG WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE PLAN THAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE. SO WE EITHER NEED TO TRUST THEM OR NOT. WE ARE EITHER GOOD WITH IT OR
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NOT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING MISSING BUT THERE CANNOT BE -- THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING MORE CONCRETE THAN JUST SAYING TRAFFIC BECAUSE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THE STUDIES WERE DONE FROM THEIR SIDE OUR SIDE LOOKED AT IT CONCURRED WITH THAT STUDY SO FOR ME THE TRAFFIC ISSUE IS SETTLED. IS IT GOING TO WORK, I DON'T KNOW BUT IT WORKED THE FIRST TIME.SO I FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT IT WILL WORK.
I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT AT FULL STACKING CAPACITY AT THIS JUNCTURE.
I KNOW YOU ARE NOT AT FULL CAPACITY.
BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER BUT I WANT US THAT YOU SAID 130, WHATEVER IT WAS. WE STILL HAD A NUMBER OF SPOTS TO ADD TO STACKING CURRENTLY. AND YOU WERE ADDING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STACKING PLUS I THINK REMOVING THAT JERSEY BAUER -- BARRIER ALLOWS YOU TO LOAD AND UNLOAD AT A SIGNIFICANTLY FASTER PACE. I KNOW I BELIEVE YOU DROP OFF AT SOMERSET. IS THAT CORRECT?
YOU? >> YOU ARE JUST WAITING IN LINE
ON HILLSBOROUGH. >> BUT THAT WILL SPEED UP WHATEVER TRAFFIC DELAYS THERE COULD BE.
I DRIVE ON UNIVERSITY OFTEN, ON HILLSBOROUGH SO I'M PRETTY VERSED IN THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA AND IT'S NOT TO ME -- IS A GREAT? NO BUT AT SCHOOL TIME NEITHER IS DOWNHILL OR PINE ISLAND, NO -- NEITHER IS HAMBURG OR PARKSIDE, NEITHER IS HILLSBOROUGH. PARKLAND, WE ARE A SMALL ENOUGH CITY THAT ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS ARE RELATIVELY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER.
SCHOOL TIME TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
YOU LEAVE A BIT EARLIER OR LATER, WHATEVER IT IS.
I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO DISRUPT THEIR NORMAL ROUTINES BUT FOR ME THE TRAFFIC I THINK WE HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC THAN JUST SAYING TRAFFIC PICK THE STUDIES DO MEET -- WE CANNOT SAY WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC BECAUSE THEY ARE MEETING ALL OF THE NUMBERS UNLESS THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE MORE SPECIFIC. I COULD BE WRONG BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE DON'T HAVE ULTIMATE POWERS TO JUST SAY YOU HAVE CRITERIAS YOU HAVE TO MEET IF YOU MEET THOSE CRITERIAS THEN IT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR US.
WE DID NOT APPROVE IT ORIG ORIGINALLY, WE JUST INHERITED THIS BUT AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC GOES.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE GET A LIST A GOOD LIST TO SEE WHAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY CAN MEET ON.
>> MAYOR IF I COULD FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT WAS HERE TO SPEAK AND THE EMOTIONAL APPEALS WAS CERTAINLY HEARTFELT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT I WILL TELL YOU AS FAR AS MY PERSPECTIVE IS IT WASN'T NECESSARY.
THIS IS IN NO WAY A QUESTION OF THE QUALITY OF THE EXPERIENCE THAT THE FAMILIES ARE GETTING AT SOMERSET OR THE QUALITY OF THE FACILITY. THE ONLY QUESTION HERE IS IS THIS SQUARE PEG CAN WE ROUND THESE CORNERS ENOUGH TO SQUEEZE IT INTO A ROUND HOLE BECAUSE HONESTLY THIS SITE IS NOT IDEAL AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS ABOUT THE PROPERTY AROUND IT THAT'S NOT IDEAL. HAS BEEN AND IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM EVERYONE IS THE INTERACTION WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, TRAFFIC OBVIOUSLY AND PARKING OBVIOUSLY.
THOSE ARE THE THREE THINGS THAT I THINK ARE THE CORNERS THAT WE NEED TO GET ROUNDED ON THIS SQUARE PEG.
WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THEM HERE, NODDING ALONG AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS AGREEMENT COMING UP BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE PARK AND MAR A LAGO.
I THINK THAT IS ENOUGH FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS DEFINITELY SOME WORK BEING DONE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S POSITIVE AND I THINK THEY'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING FORMALIZED OF COURSE I THINK THAT TANTAMOUNT TO KNOWING THAT WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.
I AGREE WITH YOU MAYOR IN THE SENSE THAT OTHER THAN TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT ARE ESTIMATING WHAT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING, WE ALSO IN THE WAY THIS IS DESIGNED, THERE ARE THE GUARDRAILS ALONG THE WAY THAT IF THERE ARE ISSUES POPPING UP, NO MORE EXPANSION IS HAPPENING. THAT IS A BIT OF A COMFORT
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GIVING SAFETY NET THAT THIS IS NOT JUST GOING TO BLOW OUT OF CONTROL AND BECOME SOMETHING THAT IS AN EIGHT HEADED MONSTER THAT CANNOT BE CORRALLED. RIGHT THAT WE ARE LEFT WITH PARKING AND OTHER THAN THE REQUIREMENTS I DON'T THINK THE SITE IS REQUIRED TO GIVE ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT.NOW IS THAT ENOUGH FOR US IN CITY OF PARKLAND? NO, AND I DON'T THINK THAT QUITE GIVES THE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, I AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT.
AGAIN FORMALIZING SOME PLAN FOR EXACTLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN MAKING ME FEEL THAT THESE PEGS HAVE BEEN
ROUNDED OFF ENOUGH. >> MSD DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH PARKING FOR ALL OF THE STUDENTS WHO DRIVE, THEY PARK AT NORTH COMMUNITY PARK. IT IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR A STUDENT TO NOT BE ABLE TO DRIVE. I KNOW WHEN YOU ARE A SENIOR, YOU GOT -- THEY OPEN UP PARKING JUNE FIRST OR WHATEVER DATE AND THEN BY JUNE SEVENTH, ALL OF THE SPOTS ARE GONE.
YOU EITHER GET THEM OR YOU DON'T.
IF YOU DON'T GET THEM YOU HAVE TO GO PARK IN NORTH COMMUNITY PARK WHICH CORAL SPRINGS CHARGES YOU TO PARK THERE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE TO WALK FROM NORTH COMMUNITY TO MSD WHICH IS NOT A CLOSE WALK. I KNOW DRAKE IS A JUNIOR, THEY HAD A COUPLE OF SPOTS LEFT OPEN FOR JUNIORS THIS YEAR AND DRAKE IS GOING TO MISS HIS POTENTIALLY NOT HIT THAT TEN SO HE MIGHT NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO GET A PARKING PASS NEXT YEAR BUT LUCKILY FOR US WE LIVE RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BURROWS.
>> I THINK I WILL HAVE TO TAKE A BIT OF A DIFFERENT APPROACH, YOU SOUND LIKE YOU ARE READY TO GO TO SCHOOL THERE I THINK THAT WOULD BE EXCITING FOR YOU, I'M READY TO SEE YOU GO BACK THROUGH K THROUGH 12 WE HAD A GREAT SHOW TOGETHER.
I SEE IT A BIT DIFFERENTLY WHICH IS THAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME CHANGE, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CONCERNS, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME TRAFFIC BUT YOU ARE PUSHING THE PRO THAT YOU SEEM TO BE SAYING THAT IT OFFSETS THAT INCONVENIENCE. THE CONVENIENCE OF ALLOWING FAMILIES TO LIVE IN OUR CITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR KIDS GO FROM THE SAME SCHOOL TO THE OTHER.
AND HAVE OTHER OPTIONS FOR THOSE, THOSE OTHER PROS WE ARE BUILDING AGAINST. TO ME THE CONS ARE ON THE SCALE OF A CITY NOT JUST THE PARENTS OR FAMILIES THAT GO HERE AND BEYOND THAT WE ARE STILL TALKING, AGAIN MAYBE I WAS AT A DIFFERENT MEETING LAST TIME I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK MY CALENDAR, I NEVER AGREED THAT THE TRAFFIC WASN'T A PROBLEM, YOU CAN HAVE ANY TRAFFIC ENGINEER IN THE WORLD COME IN AND SAY THERE IS NO TRAFFIC PROBLEM, THEY ARE BASING IT OFF OF ASSUMPTIONS THAT DON'T EXIST YET.
WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL FLOW OF THE PARK IS GOING TO BE 36-ACRE PARK, RIGHT NOW I LIVE IN WATERCRESS I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE -- PEOPLE HERE USE THOROUGHFARE EVERY DAY.
THAT IS MY ROAD EVERY DAY, MY BACK GATE RUNS UP TO IT, WHEN I DRIVE DOWN THERE, MY LIFE IS CONSTRAINED BY NOB HILL, UNIVERSITY, AND PARKSIDE DRIVE. BEFORE I CAN EVEN GET TO 441 IF I WANT TO GO THERE, SO MY LIFE I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS QUADRANT. IT'S ON NOB HILL, MAYBE IT WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM BUT LET'S SAY SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE SCHOOL AND THERE'S AN ISSUE. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN UNIVERSITY BECOMES AN ISSUE WHICH NOW PUSHES TO NOB AND TO PARKSIDE.
WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE TRAFFIC STUDIES DON'T SHOW A PROBLEM, GUESS WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDIES DID NOT SHOW A PROBLEM IN 2018, AND RIGHT NOW AGAIN, MAYBE I'M DRIVING IN A DIFFERENT CITY IF SOMEONE IN THIS ROOM CAN TELL ME THEY DRIVE EVERY MORNING AND DON'T EXPERIENCE TRAFFIC I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT BECAUSE MAYBE I'M IN A DIFFERENT PLACE. SO THE FACT THAT WE ARE SAYING THAT TRAFFIC STUDIES SHOW IT IS SUFFICIENT, IT'S JUST MEANING THAT WE ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT MORE TRAFFIC THAT SOMEONE'S STUDY SAYS IS ENOUGH. THAT IS NOT FAIR TO THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE LOOKING AT A QUALITY OF LIFE AND SAYING I DON'T CARE WHAT THAT PIECE OF PAPER SAYS I AM LIVING IT, I'M TELLING YOU ANECDOTALLY WHAT MY EXPERIENCE IS, THAT DOCUMENT THAT IS LIKE WHEN WE'RE SITTING HERE LOOKING AT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND SAYS LOOK WE JUST RECOVERED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN ALL OF THESE TARIFFS, AM I SUPPOSED TO GET A CUT OF THAT? THIS TRAFFIC STUDY DOESN'T HELP THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE LIVING THAT SUFFERING EVERY DAY. THAT PAPER FIVE YEARS FROM NOW IS NOT GOING TO GIVE ME ANY VALUE WHEN I'M SITTING THERE IN THE CAR WITH MY KNUCKLES ON THE WHEEL SAYING I KNEW IT, I KNEW IT THAT DOES NOT HELP ME. SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS SAY, EVERYONE IS SAYING, WELL, LET'S COME UP WITH A LIST, MY JOB ISN'T TO GIVE A SPECIFIC 12345 MY JOB IS TO EXPLAIN MY CONCERNS BASED OFF OF THE FACTS THAT HAVE BEEN REPORTED THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST TWO MEETINGS AND THEY'VE BEEN CALLED PHILOSOPHICAL AND YOU'VE BEEN TELLING ME THEY DON'T CROSS -- THEY DON'T CONNECT THE DOTS, THAT IS YOUR GUYS'S PERSPECTIVE
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AND I RESPECT IT BUT NOT MY OPINION MY OPINION IS EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON IS THE SCHOOL OPERATION.THAT' EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON HOW GREAT THIS SCHOOL WILL BE, HOW GREAT THE ACADEMICS ARE, HOW GREAT AGRICULTURE IS. THAT IS NOT IN DISPUTE HERE, WE ARE NOT HERE TO APPROVE YOUR SCHOOL CULTURE, WE ARE HERE TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT WILL AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM YOU WHAT EVERYONE AT SOMERSET OR ACADEMIA IS DOING TO ENSURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS NOT ONLY GOING TO NEVER EVEN BE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED BUT IS GOING TO THRIVE EVEN MORE SO. I HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT ONCE AND I MADE THAT CLEAR AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WAS WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR AND I THOUGHT THE VICE MAYOR WAS FAIR IN SAYING I WANT TO GIVE YOU MORE TIME I AGREED WITH HIM.
I GAVE YOU GUYS THE OPTION AND WHEN IT CAME BACK WITH WAS ON THE MEETINGS YOU'RE TELLING ME LOOK, WE'VE SOLVED EVERYTHING I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I WOULD NOT STILL BE TALKING IF I DID NOT BELIEVE IT, I ASSURE YOU I WOULD MUCH RATHER BE SOMEWHERE ELSE THAN US TALKING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE AND I DON'T MEAN IT'S NOT IMPORTANT BUT WE'RE TALKING IN CIRCLES AND THE REASON WE'RE TALKING IN CIRCLES IS BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE SEE THIS AS A PRO BECAUSE WE SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER HIGH SCHOOL IN OUR CITY. I SEE THAT AS WELL SO I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH THAT BUT WHAT I FEEL LIKE WE ARE NOT -- THOSE ARE NOT FOCUSING ON IS WHAT ARE THESE IMPACTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE THAT I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ARTICULATE, I WILL ADMIT I CAN'T SIT HERE WITH A PEN AND WRITE TO YOU AT EXACT VERBATIM WELL GUESS WHAT, SCOTT, IF YOU GUYS DO THIS ALL OF PARKLAND'S PROBLEMS WILL BE SOLVED, IS NOT REALISTIC, NONE OF US CAN DO IT, YOU CAN'T DO IT.
IN FACT THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSIBILITY, IT'S LIKE A BURDEN OF PROOF. IT IS YOUR JOB TO GIVE US THAT SENSE OF COMFORT NOT OUR JOB TO FIND IT FOR YOU.
AND SO THAT WAS WHAT MY POINT WAS I WAS MAKING AT THE LAST MEETING. WHEN YOU SAY PUT IT IN WRITING, PUT DOWN WHAT I NEED TO SOLVE, I DON'T RUN A SCHOOL, I'M A CITY COMMISSIONER, I'M TELLING YOU WHAT MY CONCERNS ARE IT IS FOR YOUR JOB TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADDRESS THOSE SO THAT YOUR OPERATION DOESN'T CREATE THE PROBLEMS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT FOR OUR CITY. FAIR?
>> MAY I RESPOND? >> I NEVER SAID WE AGREED THAT
TRAFFIC WASN'T AN ISSUE. >> ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS THE LAST MEETING WE WERE DEALING WITH SO MANY ISSUES THAT IT WAS DIALOG, WE NEVER GOT OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER UP THERE TO HAVE A DIALOG AND DISCUSSION AND DISCUSSIONS.
I KNOW THAT WITH EVERY TRAFFIC STUDY IT CAN SAY ONE THING BUT THERE ARE UNINTENDED -- CONSEQUENCES.
WE ADD SPACE AT RIVER GLADES WHICH HELP TO EXPAND THE SCHOOL BUT PARKSIDE DRIVE IS A BIT OF A MESS AS A RESULT OF IT AND WE ALL LIVE AT. I THINK THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE PROBLEM, WHILE WE HAD A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT ON THE TRAFFIC ISSUE, THERE WAS IN THE DIALOG, THERE WASN'T A BACK AND FORTH THERE WASN'T AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS AND PRESSURE TEST IDEAS AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD
BE HELPFUL. >> OKAY, SO CAN YOU GUYS SPEAK AND THEN I WANT TO TRY TO WRAP THIS UP.
>> IN RESPONSE TO ALL OF YOU PRIMARILY TO COMMISSIONER ISROW, WHEN WE START ON THIS PROCESS, THERE IS A SET OF STANDARDS, A SET OF RULES, A SET OF REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL THESE APPLICATIONS THAT WE HAVE. WE COME AND WE PROVIDE THEM, I DON'T DISAGREE THAT TRAFFIC ENGINEERS HAVE TO RUN THROUGH THEIR MATH, THEIR ESTIMATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN TALKED ABOUT THIS, I SPENT 10 MINUTES REMINDING YOU OF THIS, THESE SAFEGUARDS AND THRESHOLDS ARE PUT IN PLACE, WE DON'T HAVE TO GUESS, THESE STUDIES SAY THAT WE ARE GOOD, THAT TRAFFIC IS GOING TO MEET THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND SO EITHER THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS UP HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS BUT TRAFFIC STUDIES SHOW THAT WE WILL MEET THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WITH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS WE PUT IN PLACE, IT WILL BE HELD UP EARLY A VERY DETAILED OPERATIONAL MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT GOES THROUGH AND IDENTIFIES HOW WE ARE NOT HAVING THAT EXTERNAL IMPACT OR HOW THAT EXTERNAL IMPACT WILL NOT DEGRADE THE ROADWAY SYSTEM AND CREATE BIGGER ISSUES THAN THE ROADWAY AND THE CAPACITY CAN ACTUALLY HANDLE. BEYOND THAT I THINK I WONDER IF COMMISSIONER ISROW, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN YOU.
NONE OF US HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
WAS THE BEST WAY TO PROTECT AGAINST A FUTURE WIN WE HAVE THAT RAMP UP SCHEDULE IT GOES OUT THE NEXT SIX OR SEVEN YEARS, THESE ARE THRESHOLDS IN IT AND EVERY SINGLE STEP OF THE WAY, WE HAVE TO PROVE TO YOU THE PARK COMES ONLINE, ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, WE HAVE TO PROVE TO YOU THROUGH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND OTHER ANALYSIS THAT IT WORKS, IF IT DOESN'T WORK WE DON'T GET TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL, WE DON'T GET TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL AFTER THAT. I THINK THOSE PROTECTIONS ARE THERE, I THINK PRINCE -- THE PRINCIPAL SPENT TIME TALKING ABOUT WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY, ALL THE BENEFITS.
THE NUMBER OF FAMILIES THAT CURRENTLY GO TO THE SCHOOL THAT LIVE IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND THAT GO TO THE CITY OF PARKLAND,
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ALL OF US EITHER CURRENTLY DO OR HAVE CHILDREN THAT GO THROUGH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING IS IT THE EXTERNAL IMPACTS FROM TRAFFIC, IS IT EXTERNAL IMPACTS AND HOW ARE WE BENEFITING THE COMMUNITY, IN TERMS OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT THE SCHOOL WILL DO, AND THE CHILDREN THAT THIS SCHOOL WILL PRODUCE, THE PRINCIPAL HAS BEEN WHISPERING IN MY EAR ALL NIGHT AND YOU'VE HEARD IT, MANY OF YOU HAVE SAID IT AS WELL THIS IDEA OF HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR CHOICE.SO LOOK, I KNOW I JUMPED AROUND A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT AREAS I WANT TO BRING IT BACK SPECIFICALLY.
WE HAVE APPLICATIONS BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE MET EVERY SINGLE STANDARD, YOUR STAFF HAS CONFIRMED WE HAVE MET EVERY SINGLE STANDARD. YOU ARE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS, WE ARE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO EVALUATE AND LOOK AT ISSUES, I MEANT WHAT I SAID THE FIRST THING I SAID WHEN I GOT UP HERE, WE HAVE NOT STOPPED WORKING ON THIS SINCE MAY SIXTH, WE HAVE NOT STOPPED.
I THINK THAT'S CLEAR TO ALL OF YOU, WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH ALL OF YOU, THE AMOUNT OF DOCUMENTATION AND INFORMATION WE HAVE PROVIDED, MAYBE WE DID NOT HIT EVERYTHING ON THE MARK WITH THE PRESENTATION YOU SAW TONIGHT BUT THE INTENTION WAS NOT TO REGURGITATE WHAT WE DID TWO WEEKS AGO IT WAS TO COME IN AND SHOW AND BY THE WAY THERE ARE FIVE OF YOU, YOU HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT ISSUES SO THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WERE INCLUDED THAT WERE INCLUDED TONIGHT, WE'RE HAPPY TO SPEND MORE TIME WHEN WE HAVE -- WHEN WE'RE TALKING OVER TRAFFIC AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE OVERFLOW PARKING, WE MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, WE HAVE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN THE RESOLUTION WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER AND WHAT ARE THOSE IMPACTS GOING TO BE HAS IT BEEN STUDIED BY A VARIETY OF EXPERT WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE DOING THAT WE BELIEVE VERY THOROUGHLY, WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT ALLOWING THE EXPANSION OF THIS SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE SUCH A GREAT THING FOR THE CITY OF PARKLAND, THE FUTURE PARKLAND RESIDENT FOR SOMERSET ACADEMY.
SO WHATEVER IT IS WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO TO WORK THROUGH AND TRY TO GET TO THAT POINT IN THIS COMMISSION, HE SAID THAT IN THE LAST MEETING OUR GOAL IS TO WALK OUT OF HERE AND HAVE YOU WANT OF -- WANT US. HAVE ALL FIVE OF YOU WANT US TO SAY YOU WANT US TO BE HERE. AT THE END OF THE DAY THERE ARE FIVE FOR A REASON, WE ARE JUST TRYING -- WE BELIEVE WE'VE DONE ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING NECESSARY IN ORDER TO MEET THE STANDARDS, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND HAVE YOU MAKE AN AFFIRMATIVE -- AFFIRMATIVE VOTE FOR THE APPLICATIONS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
>> I JUST WANT TO RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF THINGS, WHEN YOU SAY YOU GUYS HAVE PASSED EVERY TEST, I DON'T AGREE.
AND YOUR EXACT COMMENT WITH MAKING THAT STATEMENT YOU SAID AND WE WILL FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THE POUR OVER, THINK ABOUT HOW RIDICULOUS THAT SOUNDS FOR US.
>> BUT WE MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
>> YOU ARE MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENT.
>> THIS IS MY POINT AND THIS IS THE POINT I MADE IN THE LAST MEETING AND AGAIN I'VE SAID MY PIECE SO I CAN ONLY SAY IT SO MANY TIMES. YOU GUYS ARE MAKING DECISIONS WITHOUT A FINAL DRIED PIECE OF CLAY, YOU WERE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT WE WILL BE FINE WITH TRAFFIC, I ASKED YOU WHAT SPORT PROGRAMS ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW.
>> WE PRESENTED THEM TONIGHT. EVERYTHING WE HAVE IS ALL SAID.
>> YOU PRESENTED LAST TIME THOSE OTHER GUARANTEED SPORTS RIGHT?
>> I'M NOT SAYING THOSE ARE GUARANTEED SPORTS.
I HAVE TO SAY THAT COMMISSIONER, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT THE ONLY
REASON I'M SAYING THAT. >> YOU UNDERSTAND HE JUST SAID IT WAS AND I'M SITTING HERE TRYING TO GET INFORMATION OUT NOW YOU HAVE YOUR LOBBYIST TELLING ME WE'RE GIVING IT TO YOU AND I'M SAYING I DON'T AGREE AND YOU'RE SAYING I'M RIGHT.
>> MAY I SPEAK? THE STUDENTS ARE WHAT DRIVE THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND OFFERINGS AT ANY SCHOOL.
WHETHER IT BE MSD, WHETHER IT BE A WEST GLADES, WHETHER IT BE ANY OF THE OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. ESPECIALLY AT OUR SCHOOL.
THE STUDENTS WANT AND NEED ARE WHAT DRIVE WHAT IS OFFERED AT THE SCHOOL CAMPUS. I CAN PROJECT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE SPORTS THAT WE WILL HAVE BASED ON WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT STUDENTS DON'T GET SURVEYED WHEN WE START PREPAYEARS AS FAR AS WR NEEDS, WHAT OTHER SPORTS THEY WOULD LIKE TO PLAY AND THAT THAT IS SO WE CAN PRESENT TO YOU BUT IT'S ALL -- STUDENT DRIVEN CAN I TELL YOU THAT WE WILL HAVE A TACKLE FOOTBALL TEAM, MOST LIKELY NOT.
BECAUSE THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS FEASIBLE WITHIN OUR CAMPUS. I CAN TELL YOU AS WE CAN DO WRESTLING, WE CAN DO CROSS COUNTRY, WE CAN DO TRACK AND FIELD, WE CAN DO VOLLEYBALL. THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER SPORTS THAT CAN BE OFFERED BUT I CAN LIST THEM BUT I CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT I WILL HAVE ALL OF THEM BECAUSE IF I DON'T HAVE THE
STUDENTS THAT WANT TO. >> AND THEREIN LIES MY PROBLEM.
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YOU CANNOT HAVE -- YOU CAN'T LET STUDENTS DRIVE YOUR OPERATIONS.IF THIS WAS A HOMESTEAD CAMPUS IF THIS WAS THE HOMESTEAD CAMPUS YOU COULD SAY WE WILL LET OUR STUDENTS DECIDE WHAT SPORTS WE WANT. YOU DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY HERE, IF THE STUDENT SAID WE WANT A FULL ON FOOTBALL FIELD THEY CAN'T BECAUSE WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS BECAUSE THOSE DECISIONS DICTATE WHAT TRAFFIC IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. IT DOES, YOU CAN'T MANAGE A PROGRAM AT A SCHOOL 365 DAYS A OF THE YEAR AND SAY WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WILL PLAN BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS CONSTANTLY FLOWING. MAYBE THEY CAN GET TO THAT I CAN'T THAT'S CALLED SPECULATION AND I DON'T LIVE THE WORLD OF SPECULATION BECAUSE SPECULATION MEANS THAT BECOMES AN U.S.
PROBLEM NOT A YOU PROBLEM. >> I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN LEGISLATE THE OPERATIONS OF A SCHOOL FROM --
>> I'M ASKING YOU TO TELL ME I'M NOT GETTING IT.
>> WE ARE TELLING IT WE'RE NOT MISREPRESENTING WHICH IS DIFFERENCE. WE ARE TELLING YOU THAT THESE ARE THE LIST OF SPORTS THAT COULD BE OFFERED AT THE SCHOOL.
IT IS NOT FOR YOU TO LEGISLATE. >> HOW -- HOW DO I DECIDE TRAFFIC? HOW DO I DECIDE TRAFFIC FROM A SCHOOL I DON'T KNOW WHETHER EXTRACURRICULARS ARE GOING TO
BE? >> DOESN'T MATTER IF WE'RE PLAYING VOLLEYBALL OR BASKETBALL?
>> OF COURSE. >> NO IT DOESN'T.
>> WHERE IT GOING TO BE PLAYED, HOW MANY STUDENTS, WHAT TIME.
>> THOSE CALCULATIONS AND THOSE TRIPS HAVE BEEN TAKEN IN THAT
PLAN I SHOWED YOU. >> I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY OF THOSE BASED OFF THE ACTUAL DETAIL OF THE SPORTS AND ALL THE OTHER
CURRICULARS. >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT? IT IS THERE.
>> WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS IS AN ABSTRACT BASED OFF ASSUMPTIONS YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU HAVE NOT FIGURED OUT WHAT YOUR DEFINITIVE PLAN IS YOU'RE RIGHT, I CANNOT DESIGN A PLAN FOR YOU BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN DESIGNED TO.
>> IT IS DESIGNED TO. IT'S OVER 200 CAMPUSES PROVEN ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. SO IT IS THERE.
WHETHER I UNDERSTAND IT'S LIKE IF I TO MORROW WALK INTO YOUR LAW FIRM AND SAY I AM GOING TO TEACH YOU HOW TO RUN THIS LAW
FIRM,. >> IT WOULD BE LIKE YOU COME INTO MY LAW FIRM AND SAYING I WANT TO MAKE A FULL SERVICE LAW
FIRM IN YOUR OFFICE. >> IT'S THAT I'M GOING TO GO AND
TEACH YOU HOW TO DO IT. >> MR. MAYOR, TO THE POINT, A COUPLE OF THINGS AND THEN I DO HAVE A REQUEST FOR THE COMMISSION. NUMBER 1 IF I COULD THROUGH YOUR CLERK, PROVIDE YOU THE CORRESPONDENCE THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORING HIGHWAYS SO THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU SEES THE CORRESPONDENCE. I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS 99.9% DONE, WE DID -- WE DID SUBMIT A LETTER CORRECTLY ANSWERED, THEY ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL THINGS, THE PRINCIPAL ACKNOWLEDGED AND SAID YES, YES, THEY WERE VERY NICE, AND VERY QUICKLY RESPONDED AND SAID, HEY, LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK OFF CAN YOU HAVE YOUR ATTORNEY PUT THAT AGREEMENT TOGETHER.
SO IF I COULD. >> WE INCLUDED ALL THE COPIES AND OTHER CORRESPONDENCE, NOT JUST THE FINAL ONE.
MR. MAYOR I AM NOT SURE IF WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE OR ADD ANYTHING ADDITIONAL. I MADE A COMMITMENT TO THIS COMMISSION AND TO THE CITY THAT GIVE ME 14 DAYS AND WE MOVED AND DID EVERYTHING, MY TEAM KNOWS THAT IT'S ABOUT ACTIONS NOT ABOUT WORDS AND SO WE DID EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING THAT WE HAD TO DO ON ALL FRONTS TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS AND TO BE ABLE TO, WHAT WE TOOK, WE WENT THROUGH AGAIN THE MEETING THAT HAPPENED TWO WEEKS AGO AND ORDERED DOWN THESE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT THE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS HAD AND SOME WERE VERY SPECIFIC AND SOME WERE NOT BUT WE TRIED TO ADDRESS IT AND THE PRINCIPAL DID A GREAT JOB IN GOING THROUGH IT AND THIS WAS FROM THE DAY WE LEFT HERE THROUGH THE WEEKEND, TO BE ABLE TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY THERE IS GOING TO BE OF SOME FAITH THERE'S GOING TO BE HAVE SOME FAITH THAT WE HAVE BEEN HERE AND THAT WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDING THE SERVICES THAT WE PROMISED EIGHT YEARS AGO. AND WHEN THE VICE MAYOR SAID TO ME AND I TOOK IT PERSONALLY IN A POSITIVE WAY, AND HE SAID, YOU MADE A PROMISE TO PUT A GYM HERE AND I DID.
HOW AM I GOING TO GUARANTEE THAT YOU WILL DO IT NOW.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO FIGURE IT OUT NOW?
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AND THAT WAS BEFORE YOU, SO AGAIN, WHAT I WOULD ASK IS I AM NOT SURE WE WILL BE ABLE TO SATISFY EVERYBODY BUT I WILL RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU TAKE A MOTION, WE TAKE A VOTE, AND WE THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST BECAUSE THESE PARENTS, SOME OF THEM LEFT ALREADY BECAUSE THEIR KIDS ARE SMALL.I DON'T WANT TO KEEP THEM HERE ALL NIGHT.
AND I THINK WE HAVE MET THE LEVEL OF EXPECTATION.
YES. IS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL YOU ONLY SEE THIS WHEN YOUR STAFF FEELS THAT IT'S READY TO COME TO YOU.
BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A YEAR.
THAT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. THAT'S JUST THE PROCESS.
THAT'S JUST OUR PROCESS. IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT LEGISLATIVE TO CHANGE THAT.
IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANY OTHER REQUIREMENTS TO CHANGE THAT.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BRING THEM AND PUT THEM INTO YOUR CODE AND EVERYBODY KNOWS. YOUR ATTORNEY WILL TELL YOU SOME THINGS YOU CAN DO, SOME THINGS YOU CAN'T DO, STATE STATUE.
THESE GUYS ARE PROFESSIONALS. THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
BUT I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT WE TAKE A VOTE, WE HAD A MOTION, WE TAKE A VOTE, WE PROCEED FORWARD.
WE ARE GOING TO DELIVER ON THE PROMISES, THE COMMITMENTS THAT WE HAVE MADE NOT BECAUSE WE ARE SAYING, BUT YOUR STAFF IS MAKING SURE IT'S IN THOSE DOCUMENTS YOU ARE APPROVING TONIGHT.
SO NONE OF THAT HAS CHANGED. IF SOMEBODY SAID DO WE HAVE THE SAME PROTECTIONS WE HAD EIGHT YEARS AGO? WE HAVE MORE NOW. WE HAVE MORE NOW.
SO RESPECTFULLY I WOULD ASK THAT YOU TAKE A MOTION AND TAKE A
VOTE. >> BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANT TO CLARIFY WITH ANTHONY. WE HAVE THAT STEP, THE STUDENT ENROLLMENT. EVERY YEAR THEY NEED TO PROVIDE US WITH A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT MEETS OUR CODE OR MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
BEFORE THEY CAN ADD ADDITIONAL STUDENTS CORRECT?
>> JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A CLARIFICATION WHEN YOU SAY A TRAFFIC STUDY. IF THERE IS MONTHLY MONITORING THAT OCCURS WITH REPORTS AS WELL AS ANNUAL MONITORING THAT OCCURS WITH REPORTS. AND WE PUT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL WHICH THEY VOLUNTARILY COMMITTED TO THEM ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE AMENDMENT TO THE VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT. IF THERE'S A ACTION REQUIRED FINDING AS PART OF THE REPORTS, TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AS I UNDERSTAND IT AND REVIEWED BY OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
THEY HAVE TO CORRECT, REMEDIATE THOSE ISSUES.
BUT IF THERE IS A FINDING, WE ADDED AND CLARIFIED THE LANGUAGE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO WITHHOLD BUILDING PERMITS BUT YOU CAN LIMIT ANY ADDITIONAL SCHOOL ENROLLMENT IN THE EVENT THERE IS ONE OF THE FINDINGS AND
IT HAS NOT BEEN REMEDIED. >> YEAH, MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DADS AND THE 16, 75 THRESHOLD BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE RAMP-UP PERIOD AND THE STAGGERING AND THERE IS THE ANNUAL REVIEW. WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO INTERJECT AT LEAST THE EDUCATION IN OUR PROCESS.
ONCE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND 1675? THE OTHER DYNAMIC IS THIS AND IT'S BEING ELIMINATED MORE THAN IT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO BUT I SAW TWO WEEKS AGO.
I THINK BECAUSE STAFF AND ACADEMIC HAS LIVED THIS FOR THE PAST YEAR AND WE HAVE LIVED IT FOR A MONTH OR TWO THERE HAS NOT BEEN ENOUGH OF A DIALOGUE LIKE I SAID WHERE WE COULD NOT ONLY EDUCATE OURSELVES BUT GET A COMFORT LEVEL WITH SOME OF THE DYNAMICS. I'D LOVE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND WE'VE HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION ON THE TRAFFIC BUT IT WAS NOT A GIVEN BACK AND FORTH.
ASKING PROVEN QUESTIONS. I'VE HEARD WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THIS HAPPENS. I BELIEVE AND I STILL BELIEVE LIKE I DID TWO WEEKS AGO THAT IT BE BENEFICIAL TO THE APPLICANT TO HAVE TIME FOR US TO MAYBE WE DO A LITTLE WORKSHOP FIRST AND THEN ELSEWHERE. I DON'T CARE THE FORMULA.
>> WE HAVE THEIR TRAFFIC ENGINEER NOW.
WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM? ARIS IS HERE, THERE IS IS HERE.
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WHAT QUESTIONS DO WE HAVE FOR THEM?>> I HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M SURE OTHERS HAVE QUESTIONS.
I JUST DON'T KNOW -- >> I THINK, VICE MAYOR BRIAR MAKES A GOOD POINT TO GIVE FAIRNESS TO THE APPLICANT AND THIS IS A BIG DEAL NOT JUST TO THEM BUT ALL OF THEM IS THE OPPORTUNITY I FEEL LIKE WE'VE REALLY ONLY LOOKED AT HOURS VERSUS A YEAR OR MORE OF OTHERS. IT IS IMPORTANT AND WE'VE MADE A DECISION OR VOTE NOW AND IT MIGHT NOT BE WHAT EVERYONE WA WANTS. OR SOMEONE, RIGHT? WE WANT TO GET TO THE RIGHT PLACE BUT I DO THINK WE CAN SEE HERE ALL NIGHT AND LISTEN TO THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF A WORKSHOP BECAUSE I THINK IT ALLOWS FOR DISCUSSION THAT WE AS A COMMISSION HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY. IT'S VERY DIFFERENT, IT'S PUBLIC OF COURSE. THAT'S MY OPINION.
>> YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ANTHONY WANTS ME TO ARTICULATE THAT.
>> WE DO HAVE FIVE ITEMS. WE HAVE PUBLIC NOTICES FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AS WELL. AS WE ALL KNOW YOU CANNOT VOTE AT A WORKSHOP SO WE NEED TO CLARIFY YOU CAN HAVE A WORKSHOP I THINK IN THE INTERIM BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY PUSH THE VOTE OF, YOU CAN DEFER IT.
>> MY THOUGHT WOULD BE WHATEVER VERBIAGE YOU WANT TO USE.
I WILL SEE IF I GET A SECOND IS TO MOVE THIS TO A LATER MEETING AND IN THE INTERMEDIATE PERIOD DRILL DOWN AND GET A COMFORT LEVEL OR NOT WITH SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT ARE -- I'M NOT GOING TO USE THE WORDS ETHEREAL OR HYPOTHETICAL.
BUT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE -- THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS EXPRESSED TONIGHT AND DRILL DOWN WHETHER IT'S NOT JUST THE TRAFFIC ISSUES AND THAT MAY BE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
ADDITIONAL TIME TO FIRM UP WHATEVER AGREEMENT THERE IS WITH THE COMMUNITIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
>> ONCE OUR NEXT MEETING? >> JUNE 3RD AND THEN JULY 8TH.
>> JUNE 3RD? >> I CAN ADD A WORKSHOP WHEREVER YOU'D LIKE ME TO IF THAT'S YOUR DIRECTION.
>> CAN WE ADD ONE ON JUNE 3RD? >> IF EVERYONE WOULD BE
AVAILABLE -- >> IF WE ADD TO JUNE 3RD WE
CANNOT ADD THE MEETING. >> YOU WOULD DO IT AT THE NEXT
MEETING? >> WE COULD DO JULY 8TH YOU SAID. JULY 8TH IS THE NEXT MEETING.
>> THEY WANT THE VOTE. IT DOESN'T MATTER.
I MEAN, LOOK, I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO VOTE RIGHT NOW.
>> I LEARNED HOW TO COUNT A LONG TIME AGO.
THEY SAY ALL THIS POLITICS STUFF IS WHAT YOU LEARNED IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. TWO PLUS THREE IS FIVE.
IN THREE PLUS TWO IS FIVE, TWO PLUS TWO PLUS ONE.
>> I WILL HAVE A COMFORT LEVEL THAT GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY IN TIME AND WE CAN'T RESOLVE ALL ISSUES WITH THE WHAT IFS AND WHAT THE FUTURE MAY HOLD, BUT I DO APPRECIATE AND I MEAN THIS RESPECTFULLY TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR ADDRESSING AS MANY CONCRETE ISSUES AT LEAST WITH ME.
I'M NOT PRIVY TO THE OTHER ONE ON ONES BUT AT LEAST WITH ME AS
YOU COULD. >> WE DID YOURS MORE SPECIAL
THAN ANYBODY ELSE'S. >> I'M BETTER LOOKING, I GET IT.
I DO HAVE A PROCEDURAL -- NOT A PROCEDURAL, I HAVE AN ISSUE.
LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY. I'M LOOKING AT ANTHONY BECAUSE HE MIGHT COME OFF THE DAIS AND THROW SOMETHING AT ME.
BUT WE HAVE THE THREE CLASSROOMS THAT WE NEED FOR THIS AUGUST.
THAT PERMIT WILL NOT GO THROUGH BECAUSE THE SITE PLAN IS ON H HOLD. THEY CANNOT PROCESS.
IT'S NOT BEING PROCESSED. I KNOW HOW TO READ THE BOARD.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING. WE DO THE WORKSHOP.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION CAN DIRECT SO THAT WE DON'T HOLD UP THE CLASSROOMS BECAUSE ALL WE ARE GOING TO BE
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DOING IS CREATING ANOTHER PROBLEM WHERE WE COME BACK IN AUGUST BECAUSE I HAVE TO START THE CONSTRUCTION THE DAY SCHOOL ENDS TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER THAT ON-TIME.>> WHAT CAN WE DO -- >> YOU'VE SUBMITTED FOR BUILDING PERMIT. THAT B BUILDING PERMIT IS ON HO? SPEAK ABOUT LIFE THEY'VE GOT ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE?
>> SO IT'S STILL A PHYSICAL CHANGE TO THE SITE SO IT'S A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT. THEY'D BE WELL THIN THE CAPS FOR THE MASTER PLAN AND THE DECK SINCE THEY NEVER BUILT.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY WOULD NEED IS A PARTIAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL FROM WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY ASKING FOR AND APPROVING BUILDING B IS WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR IS THERE A PATH
FORWARD AT THIS TIME. >> I WOULD ADD THAT TO THIS MOTION EXTENDED PROCEDURALLY ALLOWABLE.
>> THAT'S A MUCH BIGGER MOTION. [LAUGHTER]
>> TRYING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. >> SO VICE MAYOR'S MOTION IS --
>> TO APPROVE -- [LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT. I'LL ARTICULATE IT AS BEST I CAN. TO APPROVE --
>> I'M NOT SO CONCERNED ABOUT THE LINKAGE OF THE MOTION YET, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW PROCEDURALLY WE CAN EVEN GET THERE RIGHT? THERE'S A SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU THAT INCLUDES A HECK OF A LOT MORE ON THE AGENDA THAT WAS NOTICED, ET CETERA. THAT LITTLE PIECE.
>> ARE WE ABLE TO APPROVE A PORTION OF A SITE PLAN AMEN
>> CAN YOU GIVE US A MINUTE? >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION A
PARTIAL APPROVAL TO ADD -- >> I ALREADY DID IT.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AGENDA ITEM 9G FOR A PARTIAL --
>> IS THE TIMING THAT THEY SHOULD BE AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE JUNE 3RD -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TOO LATE FOR THAT.
>> IF WE HAD THE TIME TO PUT IT ON FOR JUNE 3RD THEN THAT WOULD
MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER. >> WHY CAN'T WE JUST ADD IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM AND APPROVE THE SITE PLAN?
>> I'VE GOT CRUISE MOVING JUNE 4TH.
>> CAN WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK TO FIGURE OUT ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A REQUEST. >> YES, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO VICE MAYOR'S MOTION THAT THE SET OF PLANS THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DELIVERED TO THE CITY THAT SHOWS THE REMOVAL OF THE JERSEY BARRIER AND SHOWS THE ENCLOSURE OF THE OPEN AREA, THE ROOF AREA NOW THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE SEEN AS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION TWO WEEKS AGO AND KNOW ABOUT IT. WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO ADD TO DIRECT STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND STARTED THE REVIEW PROCESS BECAUSE THEY WERE WAITING FOR THE APPROVAL AS YOU HEARD ON THE APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN. IF YOU ADD THAT TO YOUR MOTION, THEN ANTHONY AND STEPH APPROVE IT AND I'M SURE SCOTT WILL ADD SOMETHING TO IT. WE WILL PROFFER THAT WE ARE OKAY WITH THAT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION, EXCEPT THE MOTION TO TABLE HOPEFULLY TO THE JUNE 3RD MEETING AND THAT WE HOLD A WORKSHOP AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
>> JUNE 3RD WOULD BE OUR WORKSHOP.
JULY 8TH WOULD BE OUR MEETING. IS.
>> WE'VE GOT THE SOLUTION. IT GOES BEYOND YOU HAVE A PROCEDURE IN YOUR CODE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.
WE'D LIKE THEM MOTION TO BASICALLY APPROVE THE PORTIONS OF THE SITE PLAN TONIGHT WHICH IS BUILDING THE ENCLOSURE, THE THREE CLASSROOM, THE REMOVAL OF THE JERSEY BARRIER.
THAT'S IT. JULIO WAS REFERENCING WE ALREADY HAVE A PERMIT PACKAGE IN THAT WE WERE TALKING THIS OUT.
THAT'S READY TO BE REVIEWED IF WE GOT A VOTE APPROVED TONIGHT.
WE'D LIKE PART OF THE MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO CONTINUE THE PERMIT REVIEW. WE TOMORROW ARE GOING TO SUBMIT THE ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN FOR THE TWO ITEMS I JUST MENTIONED AND EFFECTIVELY WHAT I THINK I'M ASKING FOR WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT IS FOR YOU TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND APPROVE THOSE TWO ITEMS ONLY TONIGHT AND WAIVE THE SIX DAY CALL UP RIGHT.
IT GETS FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT WITH STAFF STARTING REVIEW OF THE PERMIT SUBMITTING THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPLICATION WHICH
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IS BASICALLY BEEN REVIEWED ON THE SITE PLAN ANYWAY FROM THE TIMING STANDPOINT TO THE POINT WE THINK IT WORKS FOR US.ANTHONY AND I WILL CONNATE UP TOMORROW.
>> I'VE NO PROBLEM ADDING TO THE MOTION -- MY MOTION THOSE ITEMS THAT WE APPROVE WHATEVER PROCESS IS NECESSARY TO GET THEIR JERSEY BARRIER, CORRECT ME IF I'M SAYING ANYTHING WRONG, AND THE ENCLOSURE OF THE LUNCH ROOM BUILDING, BUILDING BE APPROVED AND DIRECT STAFF TO WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M ON THE SAME PAGE.
JUNE 3RD WORKSHOP, JULY 8TH MEETING, AND THIS CALL UP WITH THE THREE CLASSROOMS IN THE JERSEY BARRIER.
THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT. RIGHT?
>> YES, THAT'S WHERE YOUR ADS AND IN TERMS OF THE LAST PIECE YOU ARE DIRECTING AUTHORIZED TO PROCESS THE APPLICATIONS, POTENTIALLY WAIVE THE SIX-DAY PERIOD OR NOT, THAT'S UP TO YOU.
THAT NOT TELLING YOU TO DO THAT BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU.
REMOVAL OF THE JERSEY BARRIER AT ALARMING THE CLOSURE OF THAT
BUILDING. >> WE CALLED PHASE ZERO
ANTICIPATED FOR THE SUMMER. >> YOU KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING
FOR, ANTHONY, RIGHT? >> GIVE STAFF THE AUTHORIZATION TO TAKE THE NECESSARY ACTIONS TO PROCESS THE REMOVAL OF THE
JERSEY BARRIER. >> THAT'S MY MOTION.
>> AND THE CLOSURE OF PHASE ZERO.
>> SECOND. >> WELL, THAT WAS QUICK.
ALL RIGHT. >> AND WE ARE DEFERRING ALL OF THE ITEMS, JUST FOR THE RECORD, REFERRING ITEMS NINE, B, C, E, F
TO THE JULY 8TH MEETING. >> WE'VE DEFERRED, LOOK AT THAT.
WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR FIVE HOURS AND WE'VE DEFERRED EVERYTHING.
HOW ABOUT THAT? TALK ABOUT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT.
[LAUGHTER] >> WITH THE WORKSHOP ON
JUNE 3RD. >> MY MOM IS GOING TO BE PROUD OF ME A. LOOK AT YOU, SON, FIVE HOURS OF
NOTHING. >> OKAY, I DID A LOT OF TALKING BUT THE MOTION, MR. VICE MAYOR. IS THE DEFERRAL OF NINE, B, C, D, E, F TO JUNE 3RD. EXCUSE ME, TO JULY 8TH SORRY, TO THE JULY 8TH COMMISSION MEETING AND AUTHORIZING STAFF TO TAKE THE NECESSARY ACTIONS TO PROCESS THE BUILDING PERMIT/APPLICATION FOR REMOVAL OF THE JERSEY BARRIER AND ENCLOSURE OF PHASE ZERO BUILDING B. AND TO HOLD THE WORKSHOP ON --
>> JUNE 3RD. >> JUNE 3RD WITH THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AND THE RESPECTIVE PROFESSIONALS FROM THE
APPLICANT. >> WHICH INCLUDES A WAIVER OF
THE SIX DAY CALL. >> I'M FINE WITH A WAIVER OF THE
SIX DAY CALL. >> AND THE SECOND.
>> SECOND. >> OKAY, SO WE HAVE MOTION BY VICE MAYOR BREYER AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CINDY MURPHY SALOMONE. LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.
>> CAN WE DO ONE ROLL CALL FOR ALL THE ITEMS?
IS THAT OKAY? >> IT'S A LONG MOTION BUT I THINK IT'S OKAY. YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT? DO YOU WANT ANY SEPARATE MOTIONS ON THE PROCESS OF THE APPLICATIONS VERSUS THE DEFERRAL? ARE WE GOOD? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE NO OBJECTIONS. OKAY, WE ARE GOOD.
>> COMMISSIONER COUNTERMAN. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER MURPHY SALMONE. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER ISROW. >> YES PART OF A MAYOR BREYER?
>> YES. >> I'VE NO IDEA WHAT I'M VOTING FOR. I'M JUST GETTING.
YES, PLEASE SHOW THE PASS IS UNANIMOUS.
LET THE NIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE OTHERS.
[LAUGHTER] >> FOR THE RECORD THAT WAS A
JOKE FROM THE MAYOR. >> LET THE RECORD REFLECT.
[10. Comments by the Broward Sheriff's Office ]
>> THANK YOU. >> FINALLY, LET'S GET SOMETHING DONE. COMMENTS BY THE BRIER'S SHERIFF'S OFFICE. WHAT YOU GOT FOR US?
>> NO COMMENTS. >> COMMENTS BY THE CORAL SPRINGS
[11. Comments by the Coral Springs-Parkland Fire Department]
PARKLAND FIRE DEPARTMENT. >> OH YEAH.
>> LOOK AT YOU. THE FIRST MEETING YOU GET TO
[APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I'D BE
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MORE HAPPY TO READ THROUGH THEM ALL.>> YOU CAN GIVE THE COPY TO THE CLERK.
>> FOR THE RECORD CAN YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND POSITION.
>> I'M ZACH ROSEMAN WITH THE RETIREMENT OF MIKE MOSHER I'VE BEEN SELECTED AS YOUR PARKLAND FIRE CHIEF.
I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE. A LITTLE ABOUT ME.
I'M A RESIDENT OF CORAL SPRINGS, I LIVE UP THE ROAD AND I GRADUATED FROM STONE TO MIKE DOUGLAS.
I GOT MY BELTER IS IN FIRE AND ADMINISTRATION I'M WORKING ON MY MASTERS AND FIRE EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP.
I'M ON A BUNCH OF COMMITTEES FOR THE FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION PART OF THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SUPPORT SERVICES COMMITTEE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL AND I'M HERE FOR YOU GUYS, WHATEVER YOU NEED PARK ON VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE.
>> WELCOME ABOARD. >> ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER?
>> I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION. AND MAYBE THIS IS NOT ABOUT STATISTICS. DO YOU GUYS HAVE SOME SORT OF LIKE COMEDY PROGRAM -- I FEEL LIKE YOU AND MIKE AND JASON AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO KEEP COMING -- IT'S ALL THE SAME -- I LOVE IT, SAME SENSE OF HUMOR. IS THIS PART OF THE CLUB OVER
THERE? >> I'VE BEEN WITH THE DEPARTMENT FOR 22 YEARS AND I WORKED WITH JASON AND MIKE --
>> SO IT'S ALL COMING UP TOGETHER TO GET THAT TOP PEAK.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN SENSE.
>> I LOVE IT, THE CULTURE IS SO GREAT.
MAN I FEEL LIKE I'M TALKING TO MIKE AGAIN.
>> THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING BUT. >> WE LEAVE TWO STREETS AWAY, WE HAVE THE SAME HOUSE. THE SAME FAMILY SET UP.
SERIOUSLY THOUGH, WELCOME. WE ARE EXCITED.
[13. Comments by the City Attorney ]
>> WELCOME ABOARD. >> OKAY COMMENTS BY THE CITY
>> COMMENTS BY THE CITY -- >> NOT A CHANCE, NO COMMENT.
>> IF YOU CAN REPEAT
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