[1. Call to Order]
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OKAY, IT IS NOW 5:00. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP FOR THE CITY OF PARKLAND TO ORDER FOR WEDNESDAY, APRIL 15TH, 2026 AT 5 P.M.. PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER MURPHY. COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN.
PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ISRAEL RUNNING LATE. HE IS RUNNING LATE.
YES. VICE MAYOR BRIER. PRESENT. MAYOR WALKER.
HERE. THANK YOU. OKAY. REGULAR AGENDA. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TODAY BY THE
[4.A. Broward Solid Waste Authority Presentation ]
BROWARD SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY. LOOKING FORWARD TO.THAT LOOKS LIKE WHERE WE WERE. THAT PICTURE. I'M SURE THEY ALL LOOK SIMILAR.
GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSION, CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY CLERK, AND OF COURSE, CITY AUDIENCE. MY NAME IS SAM MAY. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE BROWARD SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO MR. DANIEL DEITCH.
AND DANIEL'S GOT ALL THE INFORMATION ON IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER INFORMATION, YOU CAN ASK BOTH OF US, BUT WE CAN GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AFTERWARDS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS DURING THE PRESENTATION, FEEL FREE TO ASK THEM AT THAT TIME TOO.
SO, DANIEL. THANK YOU SAM. AND ALSO MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, CITY MANAGER, MADAM CLERK, MR. ATTORNEY.
SO AGAIN, MY NAME IS DANIEL DEITCH. I'M A REPRESENTATIVE.
BUT IT IS NOT ME ALONE. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PARTNER FIRMS THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH.
IT INCLUDES ARCADIS AS WELL AS MERCURY HELPING WITH PUBLIC AFFAIRS AND ENGAGEMENT AND RESOURCE RECYCLING SYSTEMS, WHO IS AN EDUCATION AND OUTREACH AND RECYCLING EXPERT.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS BEEN PERFORMED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.
THE MASTER PLAN STARTED WITH A SERIES OF WHITE PAPERS THAT THAT LOOKED AT WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
ALL THE ILA MEMBERS. AND WE'VE DONE SITING ANALYZES.
WE'VE WE'VE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT SCENARIOS TO HELP US BETTER MANAGE OUR WASTE STREAM.
WE FOCUSED ON EDUCATION AND OUTREACH. WE DID A DEEP DIVE ON INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGIES.
REALLY. THERE WAS THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF PIECES THAT WENT INTO IT.
I'M GOING TO HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE MASTER PLAN.
BUT REALLY THE QUESTIONS THAT KEEP COMING UP FROM FROM THE MEMBER COMMUNITIES IS WHAT IS IT GOING TO COST AND WHAT DO WE GET FOR IT? SO A BIG PART OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS THE FINANCIAL PLAN AND THE IMPACT FOR EACH OF THE ILA MEMBERS.
I'LL TOUCH ON THE MASTER PLAN AND THEN I'LL TOUCH ON THE FACILITIES AMENDMENT IN TERMS OF, OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY. AS I MENTIONED, THE MASTER PLAN HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
IT HAS BEEN SENT TO THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY.
THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED IT FOR APPROVAL TO THE GOVERNING BOARD.
THE FACILITIES AMENDMENT, WHICH IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND IT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE GOVERNING BOARD. IT WILL BE TRANSMITTED TO EACH OF THE ILA MEMBERS ON FRIDAY.
WHETHER THE MASTER PLAN IS APPROVED OR NOT. THERE IS A DIRECT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO DOCUMENTS, SO WE CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THE MASTER PLAN IS ADOPTED BECAUSE THEY DO WORK TOGETHER.
REGARDLESS, THE FACILITIES AMENDMENT WILL BE TRANSMITTED TO YOU, AND THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TIMELINE CONTAINED IN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, WHERE EACH ILA MEMBER HAS 120 DAYS TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE THE FACILITIES AMENDMENT, AND THAT WILL BE COMING TO YOU IN THE FORM OF A RESOLUTION.
OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE WALK DOWN MEMORY LANE.
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SO I THINK MANY OF YOU ARE PROBABLY AWARE THAT THERE WAS A RESOURCE RECOVERY SYSTEM, A RESOURCE RECOVERY BOARD THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING SOLID WASTE IN BROWARD COUNTY, GOING BACK TO THE THE 80S, 90S AND 2000. THERE WAS A CRITICAL DATE ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO WHEN THE BONDS RETIRED ON THE TWO WASTE ENERGY FACILITIES. A DECISION HAD TO BE MADE WHETHER TO CONTINUE WORKING TOGETHER AS A RESOURCE RECOVERY SYSTEM OR GO IT ALONE.AND THE DECISION AT THAT TIME WAS TO GO IT ALONE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T GO THE WAY THAT THAT FOLKS THOUGHT IT WOULD.
AND THAT GOES BACK TO WHEN, WHEN THE THE OLD SYSTEM WAS WAS ESTABLISHED.
I SIMPLY DID NOT STRUCTURE IT SO THAT THE FACILITIES WOULD BE OWNED.
AND WHEN. EXCUSE ME. YOU SAY GO IT ALONE. WHO MADE THAT DECISION? WAS THAT THE INDIVIDUAL MUNICIPALITIES. WAS IT THE COUNTY.
IT WAS COLLECTIVELY IT WAS THE RESOURCE RECOVERY BOARD.
SO FOR ANYBODY THAT WAS AROUND AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS A WHAT WE CALLED A TRASH SUMMIT.
IT WAS A DECISION MAKING SORT OF RETREAT FOR ALL THE MEMBERS OF, OF THE THEN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND OTHER COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS WHERE THE CASE WAS MADE FOR ALL THE BENEFITS THAT WOULD CONTINUE IF EVERYBODY STAYED TOGETHER.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ENTICING TO LET IT BREAK APART BECAUSE THERE WERE THERE WERE MARKET PLAYERS THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF THE SYSTEM THAT SAID, WE CAN DO IT BETTER AND LESS EXPENSIVELY THAN, THAN WHAT THE SERVICES WERE THROUGH THROUGH THE AUTHORITY, AND THERE WERE ASSETS AND RESERVES THAT HAD BUILT UP.
SO IT WAS PRETTY ATTRACTIVE TO, TO BREAK APART.
BUT WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING WAS THE RATES THAT WERE PROMISED RIGHT TO LEAVE.
THEY ENDED UP BEING TEASER RATES. SO THE COSTS ENDED UP BEING HIGHER FOR MOST COMMUNITIES, WHICH LED US BACK TO THE COUNTY AND SEVERAL OTHER POLITICAL INTERESTS WITHIN THE COUNTY TO ESTABLISH A SOLID WASTE WORKING GROUP TO START THE CONVERSATION ABOUT.
MAYBE WE DIDN'T MAKE THE BEST DECISION YEARS AGO.
MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER WORKING TOGETHER AGAIN.
AND THAT'S WHERE WHERE WE ARE. WE DO VIEW THE CIRCUMSTANCE AS A AS A CRISIS.
WHILE THERE IS AMPLE PRIVATE INFRASTRUCTURE. WE'LL TOUCH ON THAT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.
YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF LANDFILL CAPACITY. THERE'S TWO LANDFILLS THAT ARE IN THE COUNTY. ONE IS OWNED BY WASTE MANAGEMENT AND THROUGH THE END OF THIS YEAR THEY WILL ACCEPT CLASS ONE WASTE. AND SORRY FOR THE TECHNICAL TERMINOLOGY.
WHEN I SAY CLASS ONE WASTE, I MEAN HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE, THE KIND THAT WE ALL GENERATE EVERY DAY.
IT ALSO HAS, YOU KNOW, IT'S PUTRESCIBLE, IT HAS ORGANIC CONTENT.
THERE IS A WASTE ENERGY FACILITY. I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE. IT HAS CHANGED HANDS MANY TIMES UNDER THE OLD SYSTEM WAS OWNED BY WHEELABRATOR WHICH WAS A WASTE ENERGY DIVISION OF WASTE MANAGEMENT. IT WAS THEN SOLD TO WIN WASTE INNOVATIONS AND IT WAS MOST RECENTLY SOLD TO A COMPANY CALLED FCC.
THEY NOW OWN AND OPERATE THAT FACILITY. WHILE THERE IS CAPACITY THERE AND IT'S CONTRACTED CAPACITY THROUGH THE COUNTY THAT IS PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT, THAT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING USING FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AUTHORITY GOING FORWARD.
BUT WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT ALL THE CITIES ARE OPERATING IN A FRAGMENTED APPROACH OR ESSENTIALLY COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER, ALTHOUGH IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THERE IS A GLOBAL AGREEMENT THAT THE COUNTY HAS FOR WITH HAS PROCESSING INCLUDED OR NEGOTIATED FOR A HANDFUL OF COMMUNITIES THAT THAT ARE WORKING TOGETHER.
AND THAT REALLY SETS THE RIGHT MODEL OF THE BENEFITS OF WORKING TOGETHER, THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE, THE NEGOTIATING LEVERAGE FOR LONG TERM PROCESSING AND DISPOSAL CONTRACTS.
BUT AGAIN, WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER AND WE'RE AT A CRITICAL DECISION POINT OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTROL COLLECTIVELY THE, THE SOLID WASTE AND ECONOMIC DESTINY FOR, FOR THE ALA MEMBERS.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT BY WORKING TOGETHER, WE CAN DO MUCH BETTER.
SO BETTER TOGETHER, I LIKE THAT. OKAY. YEAH. NOT 15 YEARS AGO.
THAT'S RECENT. CORRECT. OKAY. SO LET ME JUMP RIGHT INTO THE FUNDING.
AND THE WAY THAT WE HAVE DESIGNED THE FINANCIAL PLAN IS IN THREE PHASES.
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THAT IS A CONTRIBUTION. AND SO IT'S A TOTAL FUNDING REQUIREMENT OF $2 MILLION.THAT IS THEN SHARED BY ALL OF THE ILA MEMBERS, AND IT IS ON A POPULATION BASIS.
IT WAS AN EFFECTIVE STRATEGY FOR FOR STANDING UP THE AUTHORITY.
BUT WE DON'T BELIEVE IT'S THE FAIREST APPROACH.
SO THAT'S WHY IN PHASE TWO, AND I SHOULD ALSO SAY, WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE NECK DEEP IN BUDGETING FOR NEXT YEAR, AND YOU NEED SOME CERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT IS THE REQUESTED CONTRIBUTION FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT IS BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON POPULATION.
IT IS COMPARABLE TO WHAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY PAYING TODAY.
EVERY TON THAT IS PROCESSED OR DISPOSED, THERE WILL BE A SURCHARGE ADDED TO THAT.
BUT WE TRIED TO MAKE IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT WHILE EACH ILA MEMBER WILL REMAIN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COLLECTION SERVICES, YOU'RE BILLING IT YOURSELF NOW. AND WE WANTED TO HAVE AN APPROACH THAT REALLY DIDN'T DISRUPT HOW YOU CURRENTLY OPERATE.
SO THE SURCHARGE WILL BE SORT OF IMPOSED AT THE RECEIVING FACILITY.
SO IT WILL BE. AND THIS IS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2028, $2.22 PER TON.
IN TERMS OF MATH AND SAM CAN CAN SPEAK TO THIS IN GREATER DETAIL.
WE ASSUME BASED ON A WASTE GENERATION STUDY CONDUCTED IN BROWARD COUNTY, THAT THE AVERAGE SINGLE FAMILY HOME GENERATES APPROXIMATELY 1.3 TONS OF WASTE PER YEAR. SO THE $2.22 IS MULTIPLIED TIMES 1.3.
AND THAT BECOMES THE IMPACT, ESSENTIALLY THE IMPACT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
WE THINK THAT'S A, IT'S A, AGAIN, IT'S A FAIR APPROACH BECAUSE IT IS BASED ON THE ACTUAL TONNAGE.
EVEN THOUGH I SHARED WITH YOU WHAT WE'VE ASSUMED IS THE AVERAGE GENERATION RATE PER PER SINGLE FAMILY HOUSEHOLD MOVING INTO PHASE THREE, WHICH WE'RE WERE ANTICIPATING THE TRANSITION YEAR BEING 2030 INTO 2031.
AT THAT TIME YOU'LL SEE THAT THE NUMBER IS A LITTLE BIT LARGER.
IT ESCALATES ESSENTIALLY BASED ON CPI EACH YEAR.
SO YOU KNOW OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL YEARS, IT INCREASES FROM $2.22 PER TON TO $2.72 PER TON.
AND WE'RE TYING THAT TO, YOU KNOW, ASSETS, ACTUAL FACILITIES.
SO DURING PHASE ONE, WE WILL START THE SITING PROCESS FOR CONVENIENCE RECYCLE CENTERS.
IN PHASE TWO, WE'LL START TO DEVELOP THOSE. AND IN PHASE THREE.
WE WILL FINISH DEVELOPING THOSE AND START OPERATING THEM.
SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY IT'S SEVERAL YEARS OUT. SO IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY, WE KNOW THAT YOUR PROCESSING AND DISPOSAL FEE THAT IS PART OF YOUR, YOUR SOLID WASTE ASSESSMENT AND THAT IS BEING BUILT BY THE CITY.
TYPICALLY HOMEOWNERS PAY FOR THAT AS AS ONE BILL.
AND CURRENTLY, MOST OF THE ALA MEMBERS, THEY'RE NEGOTIATING AND IT'S WITHIN YOUR COLLECTION AGREEMENT, WHAT THE ACTUAL TIPPING FEE IS, WHETHER IT'S AT A PROCESSING FACILITY OR AT A DISPOSAL FACILITY.
AND IN THREE AREAS, ONE IS FOR YARD TRASH. THE SECOND IS FOR THE TRADITIONAL RECYCLABLE MATERIALS, AND THE THIRD IS FOR DISPOSAL. AND I SHOULD SAY, BECAUSE THE INTENTION IS TO CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THE CAPACITY AT THE WASTE ENERGY FACILITY, I CONSIDER THAT PROCESSING RATHER THAN DISPOSAL BECAUSE IT'S REALLY A VOLUME REDUCTION TECHNOLOGY.
ONCE THE AUTHORITY PASSES AND, YOU KNOW, EXISTS BEYOND, BEYOND AUGUST, THAT'S WHEN FLOW CONTROL KICKS IN, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S A COMPONENT OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
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THERE HAS BEEN CONCERN RAISED THAT WHAT HAPPENS FOR COMMUNITIES THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY PART OF THE ILA, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT PART OF THAT THAT SOLICITATION AND THE CONTRACT ASSURES MOST FAVORED NATION PROVISION FOR ANY OF THE ILA MEMBERS.SO YOU ARE ALWAYS GETTING THE BEST PRICE POSSIBLE.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT WITH 29 MEMBERS OF THE AUTHORITY, EACH ONE HAS ITS OWN COLLECTION CONTRACT WITH DIFFERENT TERMS IN TERMS OF DURATION AND ALSO DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SERVICE. WE ARE NOT STEPPING ON THE TOES OF OF ANY OF THE THE ALA MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMUNITY'S BEST AND WHAT THE EXPECTED LEVEL OF SERVICE IS.
WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IS HOW DO WE TAKE THAT MATERIAL, SET IT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS SET OUT PROPERLY SO THAT IT LENDS ITSELF SO THAT WE CAN EXTRACT THE VALUE FROM THAT WASTE STREAM? OKAY.
THIS IS SIMPLY SUMMARIZING THE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES OVER TIME.
SO NEXT YEAR WE START WITH THE POPULATION BASIS.
THEN WE MOVE TO THE SURCHARGE. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THE SURCHARGE INCREASES EACH YEAR.
AND AS WE MOVE INTO THE NON AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT I JUST WANT TO SPEND A MOMENT AND EXPLAIN TO YOU THAT SORT OF THE FINANCIAL MODELING THAT, THAT WE'VE DONE AND HOW WE DERIVED THESE PER TON ASSESSMENTS, ABOUT 5 MILLION TONS OF WASTE IS GENERATED IN BROWARD COUNTY EACH YEAR COUNTY WIDE. BUT WE. WE KNOW THAT WE CAN'T ASSESS NON ILA MEMBERS THE WAY THAT WE WOULD ASSESS ILA MEMBERS.
SO RIGHT OFF THE TOP WE WE TAKE ABOUT 500 000 TONS.
AND WE SORT OF MOVE THAT TO THE SIDE. THAT'S NOT PART OF THE FINANCIAL PROJECTION.
THERE'S ALSO TONNAGE. THERE'S MATERIAL THAT NEVER CROSSES A SCALE.
LET ME GIVE YOU TWO EXAMPLES THAT I HOPE WILL BE INTUITIVELY SENSIBLE TO YOU.
ONE IS WITH CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION DEBRIS, WHICH IS A LARGE PORTION OF THE WASTE STREAM.
MUCH OF THAT MATERIAL HAS VALUE, INCLUDING CONCRETE.
SO OFTENTIMES CONCRETE IS CRUSHED. IT IS USED FOR LAKEFILL OPERATIONS, NEVER CROSSES A SCALE, ALTHOUGH WE THINK WE HAVE SOME SOME TACTICS THAT WE THINK WE CAN CAPTURE THAT, BUT WE'VE MOVED THAT OUT OF CONSIDERATION.
THE OTHER IS BIG BOX STORES. SO LET ME USE PUBLIX AS AN EXAMPLE.
IT'S ONE OF THE FEW PLACES THAT YOU CAN RECYCLE PROPERLY YOUR PLASTIC BAGS.
THAT MATERIAL NEVER CROSSES THE SCALE. WE COULDN'T IN THE INDUSTRY.
WE REFER TO THAT AS LEAKAGE, AND WE'RE HAPPY THAT IT'S BEING BENEFICIALLY USED, BUT IT'S MATERIAL THAT WE CAN'T ASSESS BECAUSE IT NEVER CROSSES A SCALE BASED ON DATA FROM THE STATE AND IN CONSULTATION WITH THE COUNTY, THAT COMPRISES ABOUT 10% OF THE WASTE STREAM.
SO WE THEN TOOK 10% OFF THE TOP. SO WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IS ABOUT 4 MILLION TONS OF WASTE THAT'S GENERATED ONCE WE BACK OUT THE NON ILA CITIES AND THE NON CERTIFIED RECYCLING TONS. AND THEN JUST WHEN YOU SAY CROSS THE SCALE, COULD YOU JUST.
IT COULD BE A COMPOSTING FACILITY FOR YARD TRASH.
IT WILL BE A RECYCLING FACILITY FOR THE TRADITIONAL CANS, BOTTLES AND FIBER.
AND THEN EITHER THE WASTE ENERGY PLANT OR A LANDFILL, IT IS GOING TO CROSS A SCALE.
AND THAT'S WHERE BY THE AUTHORITY HOLDING THE PAPER FOR THE PROCESSING AND DISPOSAL CONTRACTS, THAT'S HOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO SECURE THE REVENUE.
OKAY, SO THIS GRAPHIC SIMPLY SHOWS HOW THE MATH WORKS.
WITH A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, WE'RE ASSUMING 1.3 TONS OF WASTE IS GENERATED EACH YEAR.
THE SURCHARGE IS IN FISCAL YEAR 2028 IS $2.22.
SO $2.22 MULTIPLIED TIMES 1.3 YIELDS $2.89 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2028.
THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT $0.24 A MONTH. AND WITH THAT, YOU ARE DOING YOUR PART AS AN ALA MEMBER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WASTE IS BEING MANAGED RESPONSIBLY, WE'RE WERE ABLE TO LEVERAGE THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE TO GET THE BEST POSSIBLE PRICE FOR PROCESSING AND DISPOSAL.
IT ALSO SUPPORTS A VERY ROBUST EDUCATION AND OUTREACH PROGRAM THAT HAS ALREADY STARTED, BUT IT WILL BE AMPLIFIED DRAMATICALLY AS WE STAND UP THE AUTHORITY AND IT BECOMES REAL. AND AS I MENTIONED, IT ALSO WILL FUND DROP OFF CENTERS AGAIN TO MAKE ACCESS EASY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THIS WORK IS THAT APPROXIMATELY 20% OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN BROWARD COUNTY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO TO
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CURBSIDE RECYCLING. SO IT'S SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE.AGAIN, LINING UP ALL OF THE COLLECTION CONTRACTS.
WE KNOW IN COMMUNITIES LIKE DAVIE, WHERE THEY STOPPED THE RECYCLING PROGRAM, THEY STILL COLLECT.
IT'S INTERESTING. THEY STILL COLLECT RECYCLABLE MATERIAL IN CARTS SEPARATE FROM GARBAGE, BUT IT ENDS UP IN THE SAME LOCATION, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS RESTORED THERE.
SO YEAH, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF I DESCRIBE IT AS SAUSAGE MAKING.
SO, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE AUTHORITY CONTINUES, WE'VE GOT, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH EACH OF THE ILA MEMBERS TO ALIGN SOME OF THE KEY PROVISIONS OF, OF COLLECTION CONTRACTS ON THE PROCESSING SIDE.
AGAIN, COLLECTION WILL REMAIN THE RESPONSIBILITY OF, OF EACH ILA MEMBER.
SO ESSENTIALLY YOU GUYS WILL BE NEGOTIATING WITH THOSE WHO OWN THE LANDFILLS.
YES. AND YES. AND EDUCATING OUR RESIDENTS. CORRECT.
YEP. AND BUSINESSES AND VISITORS. SO ONE OF THE THEMES OF THE MASTER PLAN IS HARMONIZING SERVICES SO THAT THERE'S CONSISTENCY WITH WHAT WE KNOW FROM, FROM OUR WORK IN THE INDUSTRY IS THAT WHEN THERE IS MIXED MESSAGING, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO ONE THING IN ONE COMMUNITY AND ANOTHER THING IN ANOTHER COMMUNITY.
AND WE'VE GOT MILLIONS OF VISITORS COMING THROUGH THE TWO PORTS.
WE WANT THE MESSAGING TO BE CONSISTENT AND TO BE A STEADY DRUMBEAT.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE STRATEGIES. AND THE OTHER IS MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE.
I WOULD IMAGINE YOU HOST A LOT OF COMMUNITY EVENTS.
THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHERE THEY ARE TO, TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS THAT YOU'RE ASKING THEM TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND OF THE RESOURCES. SO WILL THERE BE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF COLLECTIONS THAT A HOUSEHOLD WILL DO? SO WHAT WE ANTICIPATE AND YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IT, YOU HAVE YARD TRASH THAT IS COLLECTED.
BUT AT SOME POINT, WE KNOW THAT WE CAN EXTRACT MORE VALUE FROM THE WASTE STREAM IF YARD TRASH IS COLLECTED SEPARATELY FROM BULK BECAUSE ONCE IT'S CO-MINGLED, IT IS EXPENSIVE AND TIME CONSUMING TO UNTANGLE IT.
AND YOU NEVER YOU DON'T GET THE SAME QUALITY AS YOU WOULD IF IT WERE SET OUT PROPERLY AT THE CURB.
YEP. THEN YOU WOULD ALSO BE NEGOTIATING WITH LIKE WASTE MANAGEMENT COASTAL.
CORRECT. YEP. AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL SOME STRATEGY DISCUSSIONS WITHIN THE DO WE KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE? I SEE YOUR YOUR RATES THAT YOU'RE CHARGING PER TONNAGE.
BUT DO WE KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT ON THOSE POTENTIAL CHANGES MAY BE TO THE RESIDENTS? AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, NOW WE HAVE FIVE GARBAGE CANS.
WE HAVE TO PUT, YOU KNOW, METAL IN THIS ONE, PLASTIC IN THIS ONE.
WE ARE NOT ADVOCATING FOR SEGREGATION TO THAT TO THAT DEGREE.
RIGHT. SINGLE STREAM RECYCLING IS STILL THE, YOU KNOW, THE MOST APPROPRIATE APPROACH BECAUSE THAT REALLY IS WHAT WHAT THE COMMUNITIES ARE ACCUSTOMED TO. IT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING TODAY.
AND NOT THAT I'M ADVOCATING FOR ANY PARTICULAR VENDOR, BUT IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO THE NEW WASTE AND WASTE MANAGEMENT RECYCLING FACILITY IN PEMBROKE PINES, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO, BECAUSE THAT DOES REFLECT THE STATE OF THE ART IN RECYCLING, PROCESSING AND THEIR USE OF OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND MACHINE LEARNING TO HELP WITH THE SEGREGATION.
IT REALLY IS THE CUTTING EDGE OF, OF SO IF WASTE MANAGEMENT IS ALREADY DOING THAT, WHAT KIND OF EDUCATION, WHAT TYPE OF ADDITIONAL EDUCATION. IT REALLY IS FOR HOUSEHOLDS.
BUT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO THE MATH, 4 MILLION TONNES, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $10 MILLION A YEAR THAT THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY WOULD BE GENERATING FOR EDUCATION AND NEGOTIATIONS THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ADD IT ALL UP.
YEAH. WE HAVE ASSUMED IN THE FINANCIAL MODEL $10 PER HOUSEHOLD FOR EDUCATION AND OUTREACH IN THE INITIAL YEARS, IT WILL TAPER OFF, BUT WE WILL NEVER WE WILL NOT TAKE OUR FOOT OFF THE GAS.
ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE STANDING UP ON TOP OF THE FOUNDATION THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED WITH THE WORK THAT THE AUTHORITY HAS DONE WITH EDUCATION AND OUTREACH, AND I'M NOT SURE RATES ARE GOING UP. I'M SORRY, BUT YOUR RATES ARE GOING UP PER TONNAGE.
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WE WELL, WE HOPE THAT THE RATES ARE GOING TO GO DOWN.SO THE CITY HAS A CONTRACT WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT.
THEY HANDLE EVERYTHING COLLECTION, DISPOSAL, ALL ELEMENTS. IT'S SORT OF A PACKAGE DEAL AND THEY DO A PASS THROUGH VIA SOLID WASTE ASSESSMENT TO THE RESIDENTS. CORRECT. AND I CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THAT CONTRACT IS IN PLACE UNTIL THE END OF SEPTEMBER OF 2029.
THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT. YES. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH.
SO I'M GOING TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION NOT IT'S NOT COMPLETE INFORMATION.
AND YOU'RE IN GOOD COMPANY. IT WAS, IT WAS HARD INFORMATION TO GET.
BUT I'M SORRY. YEP. CORRECT. AND THAT THAT I'M AWARE OF AS WELL.
SO LET ME, YEAH, LET ME GET THROUGH THIS SLIDE AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE MAXIMUM SERVICE CHARGES AND WHICH IS REALLY ONE OF THE OPERATIVE ELEMENTS OF THE FACILITIES AMENDMENT. THIS SIMPLY SHOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE MOVE INTO PHASE THREE.
IT WILL BE WILL BE REQUESTING FROM FROM THE COUNTY.
YOU WILL STILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FOR BILLING FOR YOUR COLLECTION SERVICES.
WE WOULD LIKE THAT TO CONTINUE, BUT WITH ALL ILA MEMBERS WORKING TOGETHER.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT MAXIMUM SERVICE CHARGES. SO THIS IS INCLUDED IN THE FACILITIES AMENDMENT.
IT'S A REQUIREMENT OF IT. SO RIGHT NOW WE KNOW THAT THE THE TIPPING FEE AND I'M GOING TO KEEP IT SIMPLE AND JUST TALK ABOUT TIPPING FEE, NOT THE NET COST FOR RECYCLING RANGES IN BROWARD COUNTY FROM $96 ON THE LOW END, WHICH IS A PRICE THAT THE COUNTY HAS NEGOTIATED WITH COASTAL TO UPWARDS OF $180, RIGHT. BASED ON OUR MARKET ANALYSIS AND OUR OUR UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE CAN LEVERAGE ALL OF THE TONS OF RECYCLABLE MATERIALS. WE BELIEVE THAT A MORE REASONABLE TIPPING FEE FOR RECYCLABLE MATERIALS FOR RECYCLING IS $110.
SO WE ARE SETTING THAT AS THE MAXIMUM CHARGE THAT THAT YOU WOULD PAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, BASED ON INFORMATION THAT WE COLLECTED A FEW YEARS AGO FROM, FROM THE CITY, YOU CHARGE YOUR RESIDENTIAL RATEPAYERS $3.30 A MONTH.
WE'VE SPLIT THAT INTO TWO CATEGORIES. THE FIRST IS SIMPLY FOR DISPOSAL.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST LOOKING AT THE TIPPING FEE.
WHAT IS THE COST COMING ACROSS A SCALE? WE BELIEVE THAT THERE YOU KNOW WHAT WE KNOW WITH RECYCLING AND WITH YARD TRASH THERE IS VALUE OF WHAT IS IS FINISHED OR WHAT COMES OUT OF THE PROCESS.
SO WITH RECYCLING, THERE ARE COMMODITIES THAT ARE THAT ARE SOLD TO MARKET AND WITH YARD TRASH, WHETHER IT'S MULCH OR COMPOST THAT'S BEING PRODUCED, THAT HAS VALUE AS WELL, THAT ULTIMATELY CAN CAN OFFSET THE TIPPING FEE CHARGE.
AND FOR SOLID WASTE, CLASS ONE WASTE. AND THIS IS THE THE NUMBER THAT HAS BEEN NEGOTIATED BY THE COUNTY FOR PUTRESCIBLE WASTE OR HOUSEHOLD WASTE LIKE WE GENERATE IS 54, EXCUSE ME, $57.49. AND FOR CLASS THREE WASTE, WHICH IS DRY WASTE OR YARD TRASH CONSTRUCTION, DEMOLITION DEBRIS AND BULK IS $52.56. SO THOSE ARE THE RATES THAT THE COUNTY HAS BEEN BEEN ABLE TO NEGOTIATE.
I SHOULD SAY THE YARD TRASH FOR DISPOSAL, CLASS ONE WASTE AND CLASS THREE WASTE.
SO THEY'VE ALREADY DEMONSTRATED THAT BY NEGOTIATING ON MORE OF A GLOBAL BASIS, THEY CAN SECURE BETTER PRICING THAN IS PAID BY BY OTHER COMMUNITIES. SO WE ARE WE KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT DISPOSAL COSTS ARE FOR, FOR EVERY COMMUNITY IN BROWARD COUNTY.
THAT IS, THE COUNTY HAS NEGOTIATED THE LOWEST RATES.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT BY BRINGING ALL ILA MEMBERS TOGETHER, WE CAN DO EVEN BETTER.
A QUICK QUESTION. FIRST OF ALL, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT OUR EQUIVALENT TIPPING RATES WOULD BE FOR OUR CONTRACT SPECIFICALLY? I DIDN'T SEE THAT FOR OUR FOR OUR COMMUNITY. YEAH.
YOU'RE CURRENTLY PAYING 5749 FOR OH, THAT'S OUR CURRENT CLASS ONE.
WELL, I'M NOW READING SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE SCREEN.
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OKAY. FOR BULK, YOU'RE PAYING $52.56 PER TON AND FOR YARD TRASH.52. 56. THIS IS CORRECT, NOT THE COLLECTION. AND WE'RE ALSO VERY SENSITIVE.
AND WE LOSE EFFICIENCY. AND AND THERE ARE TRADE OFFS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THIS AS AS SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD AS POSSIBLE.
OKAY. OKAY. SO JUST TO SPEAK TO. SO WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS FOR FOR EACH ILA MEMBER IN PHASE ONE? AGAIN, ONCE THE, ONCE THE AUTHORITY CONTINUES THE FLOW CONTROL IS ENACTED AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE SOLICITATIONS TO GET BINDING PRICES FOR ALL OF THE TONS FROM THE AUTHORITY FOR YARD TRASH, RECYCLABLE MATERIALS AND FOR DISPOSAL, WHICH WILL PROVIDE LONG TERM STABILITY AND PREDICTABLE COSTS.
BECAUSE RIGHT TONNAGE AND AND DURATION ARE TWO OF THE KEY FACTORS AND LEVERAGE THAT WE WILL HAVE WHEN WHEN ISSUING THE SOLICITATIONS AND NEGOTIATING THE PRICES. THE SURCHARGE INFRASTRUCTURE REALLY GOES INTO EFFECT IN 2028.
AS I MENTIONED, WE WILL BE EXPANDING THE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH PROGRAM.
WE WILL START PLANNING FOR THE EIGHT CONVENIENCE DROP OFF CENTERS.
AND ON A PARALLEL PATH, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE AUTHORITY TO DEVELOP MANDATORY CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION DEBRIS MANAGEMENT, AS WELL AS EXPLORING MANDATORY COMMERCIAL RECYCLING AND THE EXPECTATION FOR DEALING WITH ORGANICS, WHICH IS STILL A LARGE COMPONENT OF THE WASTE STREAM, IS TO START WITH YARD TRASH PROCESSING AND THEN BRING FOOD WASTE IN AND ONCE THAT PROCESS HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED, NOW YOU'RE SAYING MANDATORY.
DO YOU HAVE AUTHORITY TO MAKE IT MANDATORY? ARE YOU WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COUNTY? YES, WE'RE WORKING WITH WITH THE COUNTY. AND THE COUNTY WOULD BE IMPLEMENTING ORDINANCES OR LAWS OR WHATEVER.
YES. THAT BASICALLY SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO RECYCLE THIS.
YOU NEED TO RECYCLE THAT WITH WHAT YOU FOLKS WILL BE DOING.
SO WITH THE MANDATORY COMMERCIAL RECYCLING, IT IS JUST STARTING TO BE DEVELOPED.
THE IDEA IS THAT THAT WE'RE ENCOURAGING USING THE NOT SO INVISIBLE HAND OF GOVERNMENT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS, BUT NOT IN A PUNITIVE WAY. WE LEAVE IT TO BUSINESSES, OR WHAT WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR IS LET A BUSINESS DECIDE WHAT MATERIAL MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR THEM TO RECYCLE. WE'RE ASKING THROUGH THE DRAFT ORDINANCE.
WE'RE ASKING THEM TO TO SELECT ONE RECYCLABLE MATERIAL.
SO FOR A LARGE STORE, IT MAY BE CARDBOARD FOR A BAR, IT MAY BE GLASS.
I'M GOING TO USE THE FLORIDA PANTHERS AS, AS AS A GREAT EXAMPLE.
IT MAKES ECONOMIC SENSE FOR THEM. AND THERE IS AN INTANGIBLE WHEN THEY ARE MESSAGING TO THEIR CUSTOMERS THAT THEY ARE GOOD ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDS, IT SORT OF BUILDS UP SOME PRIDE BEYOND THEM BEING, YOU KNOW, BACK TO BACK CHAMPIONS.
SO AND THEY'RE DOING IT BECAUSE, WELL, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND IT MAKES GOOD BUSINESS SENSE, RIGHT? NO, IT'S GOOD TO DO FOR SURE. BUT THEY'RE ALSO MAKING SAVING MONEY, NOT MAKING MONEY.
BUT THEY'RE SAVING MONEY. YEP. AND WHERE WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN DEPLOYING THESE TYPES OF, OF ORDINANCES IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS THERE, IT HAS TO MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE. SO THAT IN PHASE TWO YOU WOULD BE USING I'M NOT A FAN OF THE WORD TIPPING, BUT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY PURCHASE LAND. THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY WOULD PURCHASE LAND AND DEVELOP RECYCLING CENTERS.
BUT, BUT I MEAN, THAT WOULD MAKE A, THAT WOULD MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IF THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY IS GOING TO TAKE THE FEES THAT ARE BEING COLLECTED FROM OUR RESIDENTS TO PURCHASE LAND AND BUILD RECYCLING CENTERS.
OKAY. THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. YEAH. SO AGAIN, WITH THE FINANCIAL MODELING THAT WE HAVE DONE, WE'VE BEEN VERY CONSERVATIVE. SO WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR THE PURCHASE OF LAND AND THE, YOU KNOW,
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THE PURCHASE PRICE IS WHATEVER SOMEBODY IS WILLING TO PAY.SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY WOULD GET INTO THE RECYCLING BUSINESS ULTIMATELY, NOT, NOT NOT THE BUSINESS, BUT, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING FOR THE SERVICE. IT SAYS RIGHT THERE IN PHASE TWO.
2028 TO 2030 PURCHASED LAND FOR EIGHT RECYCLING DROP OFF CENTERS.
START DEVELOPING AND OPERATING RECYCLING DROP OFF CENTER.
CORRECT. BUT IT MAY BE THROUGH CONTRACT. IT MAY NOT BE STAFFED BY THE AUTHORITY.
WE'RE CONTEMPLATING THAT THERE WILL BE A SERVICE PROVIDER THAT PROVIDES THOSE SERVICES.
THAT WOULD MAKE A HUGE FINANCIAL DIFFERENCE, I WOULD ASSUME.
CORRECT. IF YOU'RE GOING TO PURCHASE LAND AND DEVELOP AND OPERATE RECYCLING CENTERS, THAT WOULD COST A LOT MORE THAN WORKING WITH SOMEBODY WHO MAY ALREADY BE DOING THAT. WE'RE CONTEMPLATING NEW FACILITIES.
WELL, AGAIN, I'M JUST THE FINANCIAL MODEL. IT'S EITHER GOING TO DO IT OR CONTEMPLATE.
CONTEMPLATE IS A LOT CHEAPER THAN DOING SO. WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR THE PURCHASE OF LAND IN THE EVENT THAT IT DOES NOT REQUIRE THE PURCHASE, THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT THAT EXPENSE WOULD NOT BE INCURRED AND THE SURCHARGE WOULD BE ADJUSTED.
RIGHT. SO THIS IS NOT IDENTIFYING RATES AND WE WALK AWAY.
IT REQUIRES REVIEWING THE RATES EVERY YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT IT YOU KNOW.
CORRECT. IF YOU DO IT THROUGH CONTRACT, MAYBE WE WOULD SAVE THE SURCHARGE DOLLARS.
HOWEVER, IF YOU DO PURCHASE AND DEVELOP THOSE SURCHARGE SURTAX DOLLARS TIPPING FEE WOULD GO UP.
SO IN 2028, YOU WOULD HAVE ESSENTIALLY RAISED $16 MILLION.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUY MUCH LAND, LET ALONE DEVELOP AND OPERATE RECYCLING CENTERS.
I MEAN, I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I THINK A RECYCLING CENTER PROBABLY COST NORTH OF 50.
WHAT DID WASTE MANAGEMENT SAY? 90,000,100. YEAH.
ARE THESE ARE THESE DROP OFF LOCATIONS FOR LIKE RESIDENTS? YES. NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE HAULERS TO COME IN.
CORRECT. CORRECT. YEAH. THESE ARE THESE CENTERS.
THESE ARE THESE ARE MODEST. TOTALLY DIFFERENT OPERATION THAN WHAT YOU SAW, I THINK IN PINES.
OH, YEAH. OH, YEAH. THAT FACILITY WAS WAS 80 OR $90 MILLION.
YEAH. YEAH. AND THAT'S FOR THAT'S FOR PROCESSING.
THIS IS SIMPLY FOR DROP OFF. I ALSO THINK MAYOR IS.
YEAH. FOR FOR WHAT PURPOSE SPECIFICALLY? NO. FOR FOR AN INDIVIDUAL.
I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT. THE COUNTY HAS TWO DROP OFF CENTERS.
I THINK CORAL SPRINGS, COCONUT CREEK. I CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION IN TERMS OF UTILIZATION.
I THINK IT WAS CORAL SPRINGS THAT THAT STOPPED.
IS IT COCONUT CREEK THAT STOPPED CURBSIDE RECYCLING? THEY DO HAVE A CONVENIENCE DROP OFF CENTER. YEAH, CORRECT. SO THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A DROP OFF CENTER AND PRESUMABLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH, LET'S SAY, WASTE MANAGEMENT THAT'LL COME PICK UP THAT MATERIAL AND THEN BRING IT.
SO IF SOMEBODY IS WELL, SIMPLE IS GETTING IT PICKED UP AT THE CURB OF YOUR HOUSE.
THIS IS NO THIS IS IN ADDITION TO, AGAIN, IT'S JUST PROVIDING CONVENIENCE.
SO IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOME YOU HAVE SOME PLACE THAT YOU CAN DROP OFF MATERIAL.
IT'S ALSO FOR HARD TO RECYCLE MATERIALS THAT MAY NOT HAVE CURBSIDE SERVICE WHERE YOU COULD DROP OFF YOUR BATTERIES, YOU COULD DROP OFF YOUR, YOUR E-WASTE AND HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE, RIGHT? YEP. YEAH. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN BE.
NO, THERE'S, THERE'S DEFINITELY A PLACE, I THINK, IN THE MODEL FOR HAZARDOUS BATTERIES, THINGS THAT ARE PROBABLY BEING PUT IN THE TRASH WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE. AS WE SAW, WE ALSO HAVE THOSE EVENTS, BUT THEY WILL HAVE PEOPLE.
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YEAH, I MEAN, THAT TO ME, THAT MODEL SOUNDS MUCH MORE PALATABLE FOR RESIDENTS TO, YOU KNOW, BE WITHIN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY. THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL 30 MINUTES ROUND TRIP TO DROP OFF THEIR BATTERIES.THEY'RE NOT DROPPING OFF THEIR BATTERIES. THAT'S MY OPINION. ON TOP OF THE FACT THAT FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE GAS. BUT I THINK, DANIEL, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO LET YOU FINISH AND OF COURSE ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.
SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. YOU HEARD, YOU KNOW, A VERY SIGNIFICANT CONCERN.
AT LEAST I DID AND I UNDERSTAND IT. $110 MILLION I THINK IS WHAT THE NUMBER IS.
SO I THINK THAT'S A BIG FOCUS, I IMAGINE, FOR MANY.
YEAH. SO I'M JUST I UNDERSTOOD, BUT REMEMBER THAT THE $10 NUMBER THAT WE USE FOR, FOR EDUCATION AND OUTREACH THAT IS SPREAD ACROSS ALL OF THE TONS THAT ARE GENERATED. SO WE USE $10 PER HOUSEHOLD AS THE BENCHMARK FOR, FOR WHAT PROGRESSIVE COMMUNITIES ARE INVESTING IN EDUCATION AND OUTREACH.
BUT IN TERMS OF COVERING THAT, THAT COST, IT'S SPREAD ACROSS ALL TONS.
SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AT LEAST IN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2028, IS $2.22 PER TON OR LESS THAN $3 PER HOUSEHOLD FOR ALL OF THESE BENEFITS. YEP. OKAY. $2 ON A YEARLY BASIS PER YEAR.
WELL, I GUESS MY QUESTION AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY MAYBE MORE WHERE THE MAYOR WAS TRYING TO GO IS.
SO IF WE'RE BUILDING A RECYCLING DROP OFF CENTERS, I WOULD IMAGINE THE OPERATION AND THE LEASE OF THE YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE PURCHASING LAND, THAT'S THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THE FUNDING IS GOING TO THE LAND AND THE OPERATION.
RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
WE KNOW THAT. SO WE DID A WHOLE IT WAS A HIGH LEVEL SITING ANALYSIS.
AND THERE IS AMPLE WELL, THE COUNTY OWNS THE MAJORITY OF THE AVAILABLE LAND, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY TO CO-LOCATE IT WITH AN EXISTING OPERATION, WHETHER IT IS A COUNTY OPERATION OR A MUNICIPAL OPERATION.
WELL, AND AGAIN, FORGIVE ME, I KNOW I'M LATE, SO IF IT WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED.
SO THEN HOW DID THEY DETERMINE A RECYCLING DROP OFF CENTERS? HOW DID HOW DID YOU COME TO THAT NUMBER? GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION.
GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION. BUT I GUESS WHEN I WAS ASKING HOW MANY PEOPLE USE THE DROP OFFS, IT SEEMED LIKE THAT WASN'T LIKE A CRITICAL FIGURE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AS, HEY, THIS IS WHY WE DID IT.
SO WHY THEN I CAN UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO SPREAD ABOUT EQUALLY, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA THAT SAYS THESE ARE HOW WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THE WAY PEOPLE RECYCLE OR THE RATE OF RECYCLING, HOW WAS THAT DECISION MADE? IT'S A FAIR QUESTION. IT WAS PART OF THE THE DEVELOPMENT OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
THAT'S HOW WE DERIVE THE NUMBER OF CENTERS THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE ENTIRE SYSTEM TO DEAL WITH BOTH THE CONVENIENCE AND FOR THE HARDER TO RECYCLE MATERIALS THAT, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, HUMAN NATURE IS IF IT IS INCONVENIENT, IT GOES IN THE GARBAGE OR WORSE, IT GOES DOWN THE DRAIN. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
SO S.W.A. HAS DONE, YOU KNOW, FOCUS GROUPS, I'M GUESSING RESEARCH THAT YEAH, NOT NOT FOCUS GROUPS BUT BUT ANALYSIS INDUSTRY ANALYSIS PEOPLE ARE NOT RECYCLING BECAUSE IT'S NOT. YES. AND RESTORING RECYCLING. SO THE OTHER SIDE OF RESTORING RECYCLING, CURBSIDE RECYCLING COUNTY WIDE AND PROVIDING THE CONVENIENCE LOCATIONS, YOU KNOW, MANY COMMUNITIES ALREADY PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES, WHETHER COOPERATIVELY WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES OR WITHIN WITHIN THEIR OWN MUNICIPALITY.
RIGHT? RIGHT. BECAUSE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. YEAH.
DEERFIELD IS ONE OF THEM. THERE'S A COUPLE OF I DON'T KNOW OF ANY MUNICIPALITY THAT DOESN'T WANT TO RECYCLE, BUT IT CAME IT CAME TO A POINT WHERE IT BECAME SO EXPENSIVE THAT THEY PIVOTED, I THINK IN DEERFIELD IN PARTICULAR, THEY WANTED TO DROP OFF CENTER.
SO WOULDN'T THIS WOULDN'T THIS ADD TO THOSE COSTS? LIKE, LET'S TAKE DEERFIELD FOR INSTANCE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHO I WAS GOING TO BRING UP. THAT'S THE ONLY CITY THAT I CAN COME OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT I KNOW.
WHO DOESN'T RECYCLE. YEAH. THEY HAVE THE DROP OFF LOCATION, RIGHT? I'M CURIOUS. HOW USEFUL OR WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF RECYCLABILITY, YOU KNOW, WASTE IS RECYCLED IN HERE.
AND MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT A CITY WHO'S TAKEN IT AWAY. THE PICKUP IS IT BEING USED.
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EVEN IF YOU PUT EVERYTHING IN THE BOX, YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING, BUT A PIZZA BOX GOES IN THERE WITH GREASE, RIGHT? IT ENDS UP TURNING INTO TRASH.ACTUALLY, YOU CAN DO PIZZA BOXES. THEY ENDED UP EITHER DUMPING IT OR THE DISPOSAL COMPANIES WERE CHARGING SIGNIFICANT WHAT DO THEY CALL IT? CONTAMINATION FEE. I THINK IT WAS. AND THAT FURTHER EXACERBATED THE PRICE.
RIGHT. BUT ACCORDING TO WASTE MANAGEMENT, WHEN WE WENT TO THAT PIZZA BOXES CAN BE MORE OR LESS UNLESS YOU TIP THE PIZZA OVER AND THERE'S CHEESE ALL OVER IT, YOU CAN'T RECYCLE THAT. HOWEVER, IF THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF GREASE ON IT OR WHATEVER, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
THAT'S CORRECT. IF THERE'S A DE MINIMIS AMOUNT OF GREASE, IT IS RECYCLABLE.
I DIDN'T KNOW I LEARNED THAT, BUT I WOULD NOT ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO RECYCLE PIZZA BOXES BECAUSE WHILE SOME MAY BE CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT WHAT A DE MINIMIS AMOUNT IS, OTHERS MAY SAY, YEAH, NO BIG DEAL, I'M GOING TO RECYCLE IT.
WHICH IS PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH COMMUNICATION WITH EVERY COMMUNITY.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. FOR EXAMPLE, WASTE MANAGEMENT AT THAT FACILITY, THEY CAN NOW PROCESS TO GO CUPS, RIGHT? IT'S MADE FROM A KIND OF PLASTIC THAT HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN VIEWED AS A CONTAMINANT.
THEY NOW HAVE A MARKET FOR IT AND THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEGREGATE THAT.
SO IT SOUNDS TO ME IT'S MORE THE WASTE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES THAT ARE TRYING TO INCREASE THEIR PROFIT MARGINS BY ADDING FEES TO RESIDENTS, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, OH, SORRY, THIS IS CONTAMINATED TOO MUCH.
AS FAR AS WHAT YOU CAN PUT INTO RECYCLING AND HOW IT NEEDS TO BE.
YOU KNOW, BEFORE, I THINK I ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD IT HAD TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAN.
THAT'S IT'S BEEN THE TECHNOLOGY ADVANCEMENT. AND THAT'S KIND OF MY POINT.
WOULDN'T IT BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE A GREATER FOCUS ON THE WASTE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES RATHER THAN ON THE RESIDENTS? YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE FUTURE MOVEMENT. WELL, LOOK, GET BETTER AT IT BEHOOVES DISPOSAL COMPANIES TO COLLECT AS MUCH GOOD WASTE AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE'S A MARKET FOR, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY EVERYTHING.
YOU KNOW, SO THEY'RE MAKING WAY MORE MONEY BY RECYCLING, YOU KNOW, THOSE PRODUCTS.
SO I WONDER, WILL THE BEHAVIOR CHANGE AT THE AT THE END USERS.
YOU KNOW, AT THE DISPOSERS IS THEIR MOTIVES. AND ARE THEY GOING TO CHANGE OR ARE THEY THE ONES YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SO MANY TRASH COMPANIES THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE THAT DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITIES.
SHOULD OUR FOCUS BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECTED TOWARDS THOSE DISPOSAL COMPANIES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS AS OPPOSED TO HITTING THE RESIDENTS UP FOR, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S A DE MINIMIS FEE.
THAT'S WHY FOR ME, IT'S LIKE, IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL TO THE RESIDENTS.
BUT WHEN YOU TAKE THE TOTALITY OF THOSE DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TILL 2046, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE GENERATED, WHAT DID YOU SAY, $100 MILLION? IS THERE A QUESTION IN THERE? I JUST WANT DANIEL. WELL, I SAID, SHOULD OUR FOCUS.
I DON'T SEE ANY. I DON'T SEE MUCH FOCUS ON THE END USER, WHICH IS THE DISPOSAL COMPANIES.
AND IT'S A FAIR POINT, AND WE WILL BE ADDRESSING THAT IN THE SOLICITATIONS THAT WE PREPARE, THAT SET THE SORT OF THE STANDARDS FOR WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE FROM THE SERVICE PROVIDERS.
BUT THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY WILL BE DOING THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COUNTY SO THAT IT'S ENFORCEABLE, OR YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING IT AS THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY, WHO IT WOULD BE THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY THAT THAT HOLDS THE CONTRACTS FOR PROCESSING AND DISPOSAL. SO THAT INCLUDES THE COUNTY AS AN ILA MEMBER, AS WELL AS THE 28 OTHER MUNICIPAL PARTNERS.
THE SPECIFICATIONS OF SOLICITATION VALIDATION FOR THOSE CONTRACTS WOULD SET THOSE STANDARDS.
YEAH, YEAH. RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE NOT BOUND TO ENGAGE IN THAT CONTRACT RECYCLING AND ENVIRONMENTAL, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. YES. AND I WANT TO KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU FROM THE CW? WHAT ARE YOU GUYS LOOKING AT? SO THERE IS A STATE REQUIREMENT TO RECYCLE 75% OF THE WASTE STREAM.
IT'S A GOAL. IT'S NOT A MANDATE. IT'S A GOAL.
BROWARD COUNTY, FOR THE MOST RECENT YEAR THAT IS WAS REPORTED.
WHEN I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE INSIDE BASEBALL, THE TOTAL RECYCLING RATE FOR LAST YEAR 2024 WAS 38%. THE ACTUAL RECYCLING NUMBER IS LESS THAN 30%.
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THE WAY THAT THE STATE ALLOWS THE CALCULATION TO BE PERFORMED, YOU GET 9 OR 10% RECYCLING CREDIT BECAUSE YOU'RE UTILIZING A WASTE ENERGY FACILITY. AND WHAT IS PALM BEACH? PALM BEACH IS THEY SAY THEIRS WAS CLOSER TO 80%.I YOU KNOW, THESE EIGHT THESE EIGHT DROP OFF CENTERS.
YOU SAID IT WAS 20 MILLION TOTAL FOR THE EIGHT.
NO, I JUST SAID HOW MUCH REVENUE THEY WOULD GENERATE IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS.
HOW MUCH WILL IT COST TO BUILD AND OPERATE THOSE? LESS THAN $2 MILLION FOR FOR THE FOR THE EIGHT CENTERS.
AGAIN, THESE ARE MODEST CENTERS. OKAY, I MISUNDERSTOOD.
IT'S NOT LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A CERTAINLY NOT LIKE THE FACILITY IN PEMBROKE PINES.
THESE ARE NOT THESE ARE RECEPTACLES WHERE THE MATERIAL IS COLLECTED.
I MEAN, THESE ARE ENCLOSED AREAS, NOT NECESSARILY AIR CONDITIONED, BUT ENCLOSED AREAS SO THAT THERE'S NO ILLEGAL DUMPING GOING ON AND THERE'S NO STEALING OF OF RECYCLABLE MATERIAL. THEY WOULD BE STAFFED, BUT BASICALLY THE MATERIAL WOULD BE PLACED IN CONTAINERS AND THEN IT WOULD BE TAKEN FOR PROCESSING. SO THE IDEA IS THAT PEOPLE BRING THEIR ACTUAL LIKE RECYCLED BAGS, OR IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE BIGGER THINGS OR JUST ANYTHING NOW? I MEAN, REALLY, IT'S THE TRADITIONAL RECYCLABLE MATERIALS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE HARD TO RECYCLE MATERIALS.
SO I GUESS I WOULD SAY THAT IT WAS PROBABLY MAKING IT LESS, NOT ONLY LESS CONVENIENT TO RECYCLE, BUT ALSO MORE EXPENSIVE. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF THAT IS NOT ONLY JUST NOW THE BUILDING OF THAT, BUT ALSO THE OPERATION. RIGHT. ALL THE INSURANCE, ALL THE THINGS THAT COME WITH IT. BUT NOW TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, IT'S ANOTHER ADDITIONAL STOP. RIGHT. AN ADDITIONAL STOP THAT ALL THE TRUCKS HAVE TO MAKE ON ALL EACH OF THE YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HIT ALL EVERY SINGLE. WELL, FOR THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS.
THOSE WOULD BE MANAGED, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS INDIVIDUALLY, PERHAPS AS A SYSTEM IF IT'S THE SAME OPERATOR FOR, FOR ALL OF THEM. BUT THIS IS IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE MUNICIPAL OPERATIONS.
IT'S NOT LIKE A COLLECTION VEHICLE IS GOING TO.
WE'RE BUILDING IT. SOMEONE ELSE OPERATES IT. RIGHT. BUT THE THE ILA MEMBERS ARE NOT BOUND TO USE ANY SPECIFIC OPERATOR. YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO NEGOTIATE BETTER PRICING ON WHAT WOULD STOP A DEERFIELD BEACH, BECAUSE THIS WOULD ADD TO YOUR POINT. THIS WOULD ADD COST.
HOW WOULD WE STOP, LET'S SAY, DEERFIELD BEACH FROM DECIDING TO NOT DO RECYCLING AT ALL? BECAUSE NOW WE NOW THE COSTS HAVEN'T GONE DOWN.
THEIR COSTS ARE GOING TO GO UP IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN IT WOULD FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, DAVIE, THEY ARE THEY ARE COLLECTING RECYCLABLES, BUT IT IS SIMPLY BEING DISPOSED OF.
WE WANT TO RESTORE CURBSIDE RECYCLING ACROSS ALL AUTHORITY MEMBERS.
DID YOU SAY THE HHW WOULD BE ACCEPTED AT THE DROP OFF LOCATION? THAT'S THE THAT'S THE EXPECTATION. YES, THAT'S THE PLAN.
THERE IS USUALLY AN ADDITIONAL COST FOR US, IS THERE? BUT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW. COMMUNITY TO DROP OFF THEIR HOUSE.
WELL, IF THERE'S NO GUARANTEE, IT'S CLOSER. IF WE WOULD HAVE A CLOSER BECAUSE I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT FORT LAUDERDALE. YEAH. I MEAN, YEAH.
AND AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD IMPACT IT WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT PARKLAND AS A WHOLE.
I'M JUST IS THAT'S W A GOING TO HAVE ANY TEETH TO KIND OF MANDATE THE CITIES LIKE DEERFIELD AND THOSE SORRY TO KEEP PICKING ON ON YOUR CITY ANTHONY BUT TODAY YOU'RE AT PARKLAND. YEAH. HE'S ALSO THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR.
YES. WE'RE WE'RE ON A CALL WITH HIM EARLIER TODAY.
THIS IS ALMOST THE SAME PROBLEM WORLDWIDE. AS YOU KNOW, IF THE UNITED STATES HAS A REAL FOCUS ON ON ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND KEEPING OUR AIR CLEAN AND OUR WATER CLEAN, BUT OTHER NATIONS MAYBE DON'T HAVE THE SAME STANDARDS AS WE DO. THEN ON A, ON A WORLDWIDE SCALE, IT'S, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE NEARLY AS EFFECTIVE.
RIGHT. SO IF OUR MUNICIPALITY HAS MADE THE INVESTMENT FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO HAVE PROPER RECYCLING CURBSIDE DONE WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT TO A HIGH LEVEL, IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE NOW OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE SUBSIDIZING THE ONES THAT HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT ALMOST.
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NO, BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE WHAT THE BASIS OF WHAT YOU'RE PAYING IS BASED ON WHAT IS GENERATED WITHIN YOUR JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES.SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE PAYING THE SURCHARGE FOR THE OPERATION OF THE AUTHORITY BASED ON THE TONNAGE.
WE'RE WE'RE RUNNING LOW ON TIME. SO I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER.
I MEAN, ALL I JUST FEEL LIKE IF THE SWA DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MANDATE TO THE OTHER ILA PEOPLE, AGAIN, I'M FINE WITH THIS. YOU KNOW, FROM A DOLLARS AND CENTS FROM A PARKLAND PERSPECTIVE, I'M LOOKING THIS MORE FROM A, YOU KNOW, FROM A COUNTY WIDE VIEW.
AND I JUST WITHOUT ANY TEETH FOR THE SWA TO MAKE DEERFIELD RECYCLE.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE BENEFITS ARE GOING TO COME FROM.
I'M JUST HAVING I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING HOW YOU'LL RAISE $110 MILLION.
YOU'LL RAISE COSTS FOR RESIDENTS AGAIN, NOT PARKLAND.
I JUST I'M NOT SEEING THE END GAME. I'M JUST HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THAT.
AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT I'M JUST TRYING TO BRING THINGS THAT I'M SEEING.
THAT'S ALL I'M DOING. BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED I'M GOOD WITH BEING TOGETHER.
I JUST I'M JUST I'M NOT SEEING WHERE THIS PRESENTATION IS TELLING ME FOR THE OTHER CITIES INVOLVED THAT YES, YOU NEED TO DO THIS. AND YES, THIS WILL BENEFIT IN A CERTAIN WAY BECAUSE IN REALITY, THE SWA CAN'T TELL DEERFIELD OR ANY OTHER CITY THAT THEY NEED TO RECYCLE AND THEY NEED TO DO THIS. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT DEERFIELD FALLS, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT THE BIGGEST WASTE GENERATOR.
SO THERE ARE OTHER CITIES WITH MORE TONNAGE IN THE COUNTY, INCLUDING FORT LAUDERDALE, ETC..
SO, YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THIS WHOLE SYSTEM DOESN'T GO THROUGH UNLESS 80% OF THE TONNAGE IS REPRESENTED AND APPROVES THE FACILITIES AMENDMENT. IS THAT RIGHT? IT'S ACTUALLY 80% BY POPULATION, BUT IT'S THEN THE APPROVAL.
SO IT'S REALLY THE APPROVAL OF THE FACILITIES AMENDMENT.
IT'S 80% BY BY POPULATION. IS IT BY TONNAGE? 80% BY BY TONNAGE.
CORRECT. SO THAT MEANS THAT THE AUTHORITY WILL SURVIVE IF IT DOESN'T MEET THAT THRESHOLD.
WE'RE BACK TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. EVERYBODY'S WORKING IT ALONE.
CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? OF COURSE. YOU KNOW, WE AGREE IF A LOT OF THIS IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL PURPOSE, RIGHT. AND THERE'S OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT ASPECTS TO WHAT IT MEANS TO HELP THE ENVIRONMENT. HAVE YOU GUYS DONE THE ANALYSIS OF ANYTHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S CARBON OR ANYTHING ABOUT HOW THIS CHANGE, WHILE IT MAY IMPROVE, MAYBE SOME RECYCLABILITY, THE VOLUME OF PEOPLE RECYCLE, HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO CHANGE AND HOW CARS WHO ARE DRIVING NOW, THE EXTRA, YOU KNOW, CARBON FOOTPRINT, ETC.. ARE WE KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE DID THAT ON, ON, ON A COMPARATIVE BASIS, WE IDENTIFIED FIVE UNIQUE SCENARIOS OF WAYS THAT WE COULD GET THE AUTHORITY COLLECTIVELY UP TO 75%. SO IT WAS REALLY COMPARISON OF THE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES, WHICH ALSO INCLUDED A COST COMPARISON. SO AND I'LL GET INTO IT IN A MOMENT, THE SCENARIO THAT WAS SELECTED BY THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, FOCUSES ON LEVERAGING THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD FACILITIES.
SO THERE IS NO PLAN TO BUILD A $110 MILLION RECYCLING FACILITY OR A RECYCLING FACILITY.
SEE, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT ORIGINALLY. THE GOAL WAS TO ACTUALLY HAVE MORE, YOU KNOW, ENTICE MORE.
YEAH. RECYCLING CENTERS LIKE WASTE MANAGEMENT, WHO'S ACTUALLY DOING EVERYTHING THE RIGHT WAY.
I SAW THIS MORE AS THAT AS OPPOSED THIS IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN I THOUGHT.
I NEVER WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE THIS ALL THIS GARBAGE HAD.
I KNOW EIGHT PIECES OF PROPERTY MAY BE UP FOR USE THAT NOT TO SAY YOU'RE GOING TO GO PUT INCINERATORS AND ALL THAT, BUT LIKE, I THINK MY HARD PART IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LONG TERM FUTURE HERE, USING A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO BUILD BASICALLY ESSENTIALLY A LARGE RECYCLING BIN, RIGHT? IF WE'RE BEING HONEST, THAT'S WHAT IT IS RECYCLING BIN FOR PEOPLE TO GO AND USE.
I MEAN, I'M SURE I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF THOUGHT TO IT. BUT YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION I ASKED YOU ABOUT WHETHER THEY DID THE ANALYSIS OF THE THE OPPORTUNITY COST, RIGHT, THE OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THAT RESULTS FROM THESE DECISIONS.
AND YOU HAD SAID THAT THEY MADE THIS DECISION BASED ON COST.
WERE YOU INSINUATING THAT COST INCLUDES THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OR JUST FINANCIAL.
WE DID NOT DEAL WITH THOSE EXTERNALITIES. IT WAS REALLY FINANCIAL.
CORRECT. YEAH. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE SCENARIOS THAT WE LOOKED AT, WE PROJECTED 85, EXCUSE ME, 82% RECOVERY, 82% RECYCLING, BUT IT REQUIRED USING A MIXED WASTE PROCESSING FACILITY, WHICH IS VERY EXPENSIVE TO, TO BUILD, OWN AND OPERATE. SO THAT WAS TAKEN OFF THE TABLE.
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RIGHT. THAT'S AN APPROACH. BUT ULTIMATELY IT WAS NOT THE APPROACH THAT WAS SELECTED.WELL, THAT'S A DEPENDENT SOLID WASTE DISTRICT.
THERE ARE UNIQUE QUALITIES. IT IS A VERY MATURE SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE FRUSTRATION THAT WHEN BROWARD COUNTY DEVELOPED THE SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, 30, ALMOST 40 YEARS AGO, THEY WENT A VERY DIFFERENT APPROACH WHERE THEY CONTRACTED FOR THE SERVICES.
AND THERE'S STILL CLEARLY THERE'S A BAD TASTE IN A LOT OF PEOPLE'S MOUTHS.
YEAH, YEAH. BUT GIVEN WHERE WE ARE, WE'RE TRYING, WE'RE BALANCING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE MORE FOCUS ON THE END USER AS OPPOSED TO THE RESIDENTS.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WAY MORE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK IN ALLOWING AND PUSHING THE END USERS TO BE USING BETTER FACILITIES LIKE WASTE MANAGEMENT DOES. YEAH. SO THAT A, IT'S EASIER ON THE RESIDENTS, IT'S CHEAPER ON THE RESIDENTS AND IT'S BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
CARE, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW. THE HARD PART. I THINK THERE HAS TO BE LIKE CONSEQUENCES.
AND THE HARD PART IS HOW DO YOU MANAGE THAT? HOW DO YOU OVERSIGHT? UNLESS EVERY TIME THEY GO TO A RECYCLING BIN, YOU SEE THAT SOMEONE'S MIXED AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I THINK EDUCATION IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
BUT I DO HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT EDUCATION AND BY JUST GIVING ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO LEAVE THEIR HOUSE TO GO RECYCLE ISN'T GOING TO BE ENOUGH FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL NOT DOING IT. THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN. I MEAN, IF THEY'RE NOT RECYCLING NOW, THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT GOING SOMEWHERE TO DROP IT OFF.
AND ONE OF THE PILLARS OF THE MASTER PLAN IS BEHAVIOR CHANGE.
AND, YOU KNOW, SORT OF ACTIVATING THE LEVERS TO SECURE THE NECESSARY BEHAVIOR CHANGE.
I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROJECT, THE BROWARD COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD WAS NOT THEY WERE CONSIDERED A STAKEHOLDER, BUT THEY NOW HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE. SO THEY ARE ATTENDING.
WE GOT. I HATE TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT WE GOT TWO MINUTES.
OH, LET ME LET ME BE REAL QUICK, THEN. SO, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE COST CONTROL STRATEGY, THERE'S REALLY FOUR ELEMENTS AFFORDABILITY, FAIRNESS, STABILIZATION AND DECREASING THE NEED FOR FOR FOR LONG TERM DISPOSAL.
I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON. RIGHT. SO THIS IS FROM 2023.
THIS IS WHERE WE STARTED. SO JUST TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT, EVEN THOUGH THE 2024 NUMBERS ARE AVAILABLE AND THE 2025 NUMBERS WILL BE AVAILABLE COME JUNE 1ST WHEN THE STATE PUBLISHES IT. BUT WE'RE DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, 5 MILLION TONS OF WASTE GENERATED EACH YEAR.
AND GROWING THE RECYCLING RATE IS NOWHERE NEAR THE 75% GOAL.
AND REALLY, THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN FOCUS OF HOW DO WE INCREASE RESOURCE STEWARDSHIP AND EXTRACT VALUE FROM THE WASTE STREAM? BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF WHAT'S BEING DISPOSED OF HAS VALUE AND WE'RE NOT EXTRACTING IT.
SO WE ARE WASTING RESOURCES A LOT OF TIME, MONEY AND ENERGY.
BUT AGAIN, THAT GOES BACK TO THE END USER. YES AND NO.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT WITH AN APPROPRIATE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH PROGRAM AND SOME OVERSIGHT.
I MEAN, LET'S BE BE FAIR. YOU'RE STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR COLLECTION.
AND IT'S THEN IT'S DISSEMINATED TO ALL OF THE THE ALA COMMUNITIES.
WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH ALL OF THE PIOS FROM EVERY ALA COMMUNITY.
THERE IS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION, COLLATERAL MATERIAL THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED THROUGH THE.
AND AS THIS CRYSTALLIZED, THAT'S WHEN THE THINKING SHIFTED TO WHY? HEY, WHY COMPETE AGAINST EACH OTHER? LET'S WORK TOGETHER.
SO WE'RE LEVERAGING THAT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
EVERYONE HAS THIS. OKAY, OKAY. I CAN ALSO FIELD QUESTIONS.
OKAY. I JUST KNOW WE NEED TO START OUR MEETING.
OH, OKAY. I DON'T NEED TO I MEAN, THE INTENT WAS TO ALLOW YOU TO GET THROUGH, SO APOLOGIES, BUT I'M JUST. I CAN'T HELP MYSELF. DON'T NEED TO APOLOGIZE.
YEAH. NO, BUT I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN DISSEMINATED AND EVERYBODY CAN SEE.
OH, LOOK, HE ONLY HAD TWO SLIDES LEFT ON QUESTIONS, SO.
OKAY. AND IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK, I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT I DO EVERY DAY.
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AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE FOR SURE. YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.