[1. Call to Order]
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>> GOOD EVENING, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS CITY COMMISSION MEETING FOR PORK LAND ON FEBRUARY 18, 2026 TO ORDER. THE FLAG IS STILL ON THE STEPS.
PLEASE RISE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH
LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> ROLL CALL. >> COMMISSIONER ISROW?
MURPHY-SALOMONE? >> HERE. >> VICE MAYOR BRIER?
>> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN? >> HERE.
[4.A. City Logo Design]
>> MAYOR WALKER? >> AND I AM ALSO HERE. ER
>> ALRIGHT, REGULAR AGENDA, CITY LOGO DISCUSSION. >> TAKE IT AWAY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. YES, I'M JUST GOING TO BE HERE FOR A SHORT TIME.
I HAVE NOT BEEN HELP INFORMAL THIS PROCESS THUS FAR, WHY WOULD I BELABOR THE POINT.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO NORTH STAR, WE HAD A WORKSHOP SOMETIME AGO, YOU PROVIDED SOME FEEDBACK. THEY ARE HERE TO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THAT FEEDBACK, AND
WITH THAT -- >> I NEED MY CROWN PICTURE. >> WE'LL WORK ON THAT.
UNTIL THEN, MAY I INTRODUCE NORTH STAR. >> HI, EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AGAIN, WE'RE EXCITED TO SHARE SOME LOGO ITERATIONS WITH YOU.
>> WE 'LL HAVE TO FILL PATRICK IN BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
WE'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU A FEW ITERATIONS, IF YOU'LL RECALL LAST TIME, IF WE CAN ADVANCE. THERE WE GO. SO, LAST TIME WE PRETTY MUCH NARROWED DOWN TO A SELECTION AND YOU ALL WANTED TO LOOKING AT REVISIONS TO THAT ICON IN NUMBER 4 AND THEN ALSO PREFERRED THE TYPE TREATMENT FROM NUMBER 6 ALONG WITH A FEW OTHER REQUESTS, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY.
SO, AS A REVIEW, YOUZ THE BOLDER WORK -- TYPE FROM OPTION F, YOU WILLING SEE NO TOUPEE STYLE VERSIONS TODAY. THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT ADDING A LITTLE SUBTLE TEXTURE THIS SBAO* THE WORD MARK, SIMILAR TO THE BRUSHSTROKES THAT ARE IN THE P-I CON ITSELF, WE'VE INCORPORATED THAT INTO THE WORD MART AS WELL, THEN WE TALKED ABOUT SINGING THE ICON AS THE P IN PARKLAND, SO EACH OF THESE ITERATIONS WILL SHOW YOU BOTH VERSIONS, ONE WITH THE ICON ON TOP OF THE WORD PARKLAND AND ONE INCORPORATED AS THE P SO YOU CAN SEE HOW IT WORKS BOTH WAYS, AND WE ALSO THOUGHT WE THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT A VERSION THAT DOES THIS AS WELL, WE DID PLAY WITH THE PLACEMENT AND SIZE OF THE P JUST A LITTLE BIT.
THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT HAVING THE P BE A LITTLE BIT THICKER, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE AT THE TOP, SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT A LOT OF NUANCE TODAY, SO, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. I'LL POINT OUT THE INDIVIDUAL CHANGES TO YOU AND THEN MAKING THE COLORS IN THE PALLET DEEPER, SORT OF LESS BRIGHT, AND THEN WE ALL AGREED LAST TIME AS WELL WE DO LIKE THAT IDEA OF HAVING A SEPARATE ICON. EVEN IF WE CHOOSE THAT ONE THAT INTEGRATES INTO THAT WORD MART ITSELF, THAT ICON CAN LIVE ON ITS OWN AND WITHOUT THE WORD MART ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THAT BEING SAID, WE DID DEEPEN UP THE COLORS IN THAT COLOR PALLET. SAM'S GOT A PRINTOUT, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS QUITE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE. IS THAT OKAY? YEAH, GREAT. SO, YOUR PRIMARY COLORS IN THE LOGO OF COURSE ARE THOSE IN THE UPPER LEFT, THAT GREEN DEEP AND GOLD, AND THEN THE REST OF THOSE WOULD BE USE AS ACCENT COLORS IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT LAYOUTS AND BRAND ACTIVATION.
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AND HERE'S LOGO VERSION NUMBER ONE, LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT HANGING THAT TOP, THIS WAS ONE THAT WE DID NOT GET TO LOOK AT SORT OF IN THE MAKE IT ON THE FLY, WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF SHAPE TO THAT TOP PIECE SO IT SORT OF LOOKS LIKE A SHIELD WITHOUT BEING FULLY CONTAINED INSIDE A ONE COLOR SHIELD. YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE TON WORD MARK ITSELF, YOU HAVE THAT BRESH STROKE INTRODUCED INTO THE WORD MARK ITSELF, IT'S PRETTY SUBTLE BUT IT DOES GIVE IT NICE TEXTURE AND IT KIND OF BRINGS A LITTLE BIT OF A NATURAL ELEMENT IN THERE AS WELL WITHOUT A LITERAL TREE OR A LEAF.IT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF A NATURAL FEELING WITH THAT ADDITION.
I CAN'T GET USED TO NOT HITTING THAT KEYBOARD. HERE ARE THINGS THAT IT LOOKS LIKE A STAND ALONE ON A HAT, HOW IT MIGHT LOOK ON SIGNAGE. AND THEN IN ONE COLOR ON THE FIELD. YOU WILL NOTICE THE ONE COLOR DOES GET THAT LITTLE SPACE ON THE TOPPER SO THAT IT IS A SEPARATE PIECE, YOU GET THAT DISTINCTION.
SO, THAT'S ITERATION 1. OUR NEXT ITERATION, NOW WE HAVE A FLAT TOP GOIPG ACROSS IN THAT NICE GOLD. IN THIS CASE, WE'VE ALSO THICKENED UP THAT P A LITTLE BIT SO IT'S SLIGHTLY THICKER OR A HEAVIER WEIGHT INSIDE THAT ICON. AND THEN AGAIN THIS IS PAIRED WITH THAT TEXT THAT HAS THOSE BRUSHSTROKES THROUGHOUT IT AS WELL.
AND HERE'S THIS ONE ON A HAT. AND THE SIGN. AND THEN THE FIELD.
AND NOW WE HAVE VERSION NUMBER 3. THIS ONE GOES BACK TO THAT THINNER P, HAS A FLAT TOP WITH A SPACE IN BETWEEN, SO REALLY CREATING THAT SEPARATION A LITTLE BIT SO IT FEELS MORE LIKE A TOPPER AND LESS LIKE AN INTEGRATED SHIELD, SO AGAIN A LITTLE BIT OF NUANCE HERE OF COURSE BETWEEN THIS AND THE PREVIOUS VERSION.
AND AGAIN WE'VE GOT THOSE BRUSH MARKS IN THE FONT OR THE TYPE FACE ITSELF.
SO HERE'S THAT ONE ON THE HAT. THE SIGN, THE FIELDS. >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> SO, THIS ONE IS CONTAINED. I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT I THINK THIS ONE FEELS LIKE THE BOTTOM
OF THE P IS A LITTLE MORE THERE . >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> THE FOOT. THAT'S RIGHT. >> [INAUDIBLE]
>> SO, HERE'S THAT ON A HAT. AND THEN ON THE FIELDS. AND THEN WE'VE GOT THESE HERE ON MASH UP SLIDES ONE, MASH UP THAT HAS THE ICON SEPARATE AND ONE THAT HAS IT INTEGRATED.
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AND YOU'LL NOTICE TOO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A VARIETY IN HEAD ROOM ON THE P ITSELF, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST TIME. DIDN'T GET DEFINITIVE DIRECTION BUT LET'S LOOK AT THE HEAD ROOM ON THE P IN A VARIETY OF WAYS SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S CLOSER ON ONE, THEN A LITTLE FURTHER AWAYDOWN THERE IN 3. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> YEAH.
MAYBE -- I DON'T KNOW. BECAUSE IT'S LIEB WE -- LIKE WE'RE SEEING THIS SCREEN.
>> [INAUDIBLE] >> BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL INSIDE, IT'S THIS SCREEN THAT WE'RE
SEEING BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO -- WHAT'S THAT? >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE WANT TO MAKE IT BIGGER, THAT'S THIS SCREEN, RIGHT? >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> SEE, IT'S STILL KEEPING US SMALL UP THERE. >> [INAUDIBLE]
>> >> WHEN WE WENT BACK -- WASN'T THE ORIGINAL ONE, IT HAD MORE LIKE FOLIAGE, IT HAD MORE OF A LANDSCAPE. .
INGER THAT'S RIGHT >> I THINK IT HAD MEANING TO IT.
NOW I WORRY -- EXACTLY, IT'S TOO SHIELDING NOW BECAUSE IT LOST THE ELEMENT THAT I THOUGHT MADE IT SOMEWHAT US, SO I THINK IT STILL NEEDS SOMETHING ON THE TOP OF IT.
I KNOW, MAYOR, DON'T WORRY, WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. LOOK, I'M SORRY FOR VOICING MY OPINION, BUT THIS IS WHAT I'M HERE FOR. I JUST THINK THAT -- YOU KNOW, I HONESTLY THINK WE ARE THERE, LIKE, WE'RE CLOSE, BUT WHEN YOU ADD THAT ON THE TOP, IT LOOKS
LIKE A SHIELD, IT'S VERY GOLD AND GREEN AND A SHIELD. >> [INAUDIBLE]
>> YEAH, I THOUGHT -- >> ARE THESE THE ONES WE SHOWED? >> NO, THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> YES. >> WE PULLED A COUPLE BUT WE CAN ADD TO THIS IF THERE'S
PARTICULAR THINGS YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE. >> PARKLAND BY, PARKLAND GOLF.
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>> SOFM -- SOME OF THEM HAVE A SIMILAR P. >> I THINK THEY DID SOMEWHAT OF A REBRANDING RECENTLY. PARKLAND BAY DID ONE AS WELL, I CAN PICTURE IT GOING INTO THE
GATE, IT'S GOT SOMEWHAT OF A CREST, YEAH. >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> YEAH, I AGREE. RIGHT. >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> I'M THINKING LET SHOW THEM THE -- WITH THE REGION, IT SHOULD BE UP.
I THINK THEY WERE LIKING -- >> YEAH, WE'VE GOLBACKER GOT GSH GOT ALL THESE STARTING HERE.
>> WE HAVE SOME OF THE REGIONAL LOGOS. >> [INAUDIBLE].
( NOT SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE ). >> [INAUDIBLE].
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>> THAT ALONE SHOULD STAND ON ITS OWN MERIT WITH THE SHIELD. IF YOU PUT THE THING ON TOP OF IT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE CONFUSING -- THE OTHER STUFF IS MORE IMAGERY, A SUN, A TREE, DEER ANTLERS, THIS IS AN IMAGERY SO IT DOESN'T ADD TO THE WORD, IT'S ANOTHER LETTER.
>> IF I CAN INTERJECT SOMETHING, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION, USE IT STACKED, USE IT TAZ FIRST LETTER WHERE IT TAKES SENSE FOR THE DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS.
SEP ONE IS OF COURSE TO MAKE A DECISION AND ALL OF THE THINGS YOU'RE DECIDING ON ARE SHIELD-LIKE, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS, THE SAME APPLICATIONS WITH ANY ONE
OF THEM, TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU'RE THINKING IT THROUGH. >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> IT ALL DEPENDS TON -- ON THE APPLICATION. YOU GET A BRAND BOOK AND IT SAYS IN THIS SITUATION, YOU USE IT THAT WAY AND IN THIS SITUATION, YOU USE IT THAT WAY.
>> I GET IT BUT THE OTHER CITIES DON'T HAVE TO DO IT THAT WAY.
>> IF YOU LOOK AT HALL HALENDAEL BEACH, THAT H IS USED INDEPENDENT, BUT YOU HAVE FOUR OPTIONS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, THE DILEMMA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE HAVE WITH ALL FOUR OPTIONS.
THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO GIVE UT A BRAND STYLE GUIDE THAT'S GOING TO LAY OUT THE DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN USE IT, WE CAN USE IT JUST THE P, WE CAN USE IT WITH THE WORD, WE CAN USE IT IN BLACK AND WHITE. WE CAN USE IT STACKED, ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE'LL
HAVE. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> [INAUDIBLE].
( NOT SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE ). .
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>> WE'RE GOING O DO IT ONE TIME, IF EVERYONE DISAGREES VISUALLY HOW IT WORKS, THEN I
GET IT, BUT AGREED. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FONT. >> IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE TWO CENTS OF THE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, WITH DUE RESPECT, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES ANY SENSE TO MAKE IT SMALLER, YEAH. I THINK THE ITERATION THAT THEY HAVE THERE IS SPOT ON.
>> EVERYTHING ELSE IS ON THE SAME HEIGHT IN TERMS OF THE [INAUDIBLE].
>> AND A CAN COUPLE OF THESE EXAMPLES ARE ADDRESSING THOSE SAME ISSUES, SUNRISE, THE S IS NOT A DECORATIVE S LIKE WE HAVE WITH THE P, WELLINGTON, THE W IS LARGER, ALSO PART OF THAT HORSE GRAPHIC, SO IT IS -- YEAH, IT IS A PREFERENCE BUT IT'S NOT AN UNCOMMON THING
EITHER. >> [INAUDIBLE]. ( NOT SPEAKING INTO THE
MICROPHONE ). >> ASK HIM IF HE CAN GIVE US THE SHIELD WITH THE FOOT.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> PATRICK JUST SENT IT TO YOU, ANITA.HAD TO SEND MY MOCK UPS
FOR LAST TIME. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S
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NICE TO GO THROUGH THIS AND JUST SEE WHAT IT IS. >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE'RE GOOD WITH 4? >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> WHAT IF WE SPLIT THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS ONE AND THAT ONE SIZING-WISE? >> I'M FINE, WHATEVER -- YOU'RE
SPLITTING HAIRS, THAT P IS TOO SMALL IN MY OPINION. >> THEN FILL THE GREEN SHIELD ALL THE WAY TO THE GOLD, THAT WAY WE DON'T GAP IN BETWEEN IT AND THAT WOULD FATTEN THE P.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. ( NOT SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE ).
>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> CORAL SPRING'S LOGO IS EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN.
>> SUNRISE IS A SUNRISE. >> IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT DIRECTION, BUT IF YOU WANT TO
DO SOMETHING [INAUDIBLE]. DO SOMETHING [INAUDIBLE]. >> THAT COULD BE A FUN SORT OF
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CAMPAIGN, SHOW THAT. THIS IS NOT JUST EVERY OTHER PLACE, RIGHT.>> IF I CAN INTERJECT, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT THIS OPERATIONS DISCUSSION, BUT IF I MAY, WE'VE ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT EXACT THING, NOT CHANGING THE SHAPE OF IT BUT USING IT IN SOME FORM OR FASHION, IF WE GO TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO ROUND IT OFF, ADD THAT PIN AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THAT, WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.
THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT IS PICK ONE OF THE FOUR WHICH IS BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION FROM THE LAST MEETING. IF WE PICK ANY HOOVER THOSE FOUR, WE'RE GREAT WITH IT, WE CAN THEY ABOUT THE DIFFERENT THING AND IS GET THEM COOKING OP THE STYLE BOOK WE USED TO
IMPLEMENT THIS. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> IS IT ALL THREE OF THEM?
>> YES. >> THIS IS MORE OF A CREST, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING -- BUT IT'S
JUST AN EXAMPLE OF A CREST. >> OUR EMBROIDERY WILL KILL US. >> THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, THERE'S ONE WITH A CROWN. YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
LET SEE THIS WITH A FOOT. >> IT LOOKS LIKE A TREE. .
>> I LIKE THAT. >> THAT'S WHAT WE SPOKE ABOUT LAST TIME.
>> WE'VE GOT PATRICK BACK IN THE OFFICE WORKING ON IT. >> [APPLAUSE].
>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> DO WE HAVE THAT IN THE SLIDE? >> WE'LL DO THAT NEXT TO THAT
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ONE. >> LET'S JUST DO THIS THEN. >> CAN'T DO THAT.
>> THERE YOU GO, NOW YOU CAN SCALE IT. >> SORRY, SAM'S NOT USED TO
DOING THIS ON THE FLY UNDER PRESSURE. >> NOPE.
>> BECAUSE WE'RE IN POWERPOINT, THAT'S THE PROBLEM. YEAH, GOOD CALL.
>> YOU HAVE TO, TO GET THE FOOT. >> THAT P IS SLIGHTLY LARGER THAN THE REST OF THE LETTERS.
>> BUT IT'S NOT. >> IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO GO WITH SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE NOT SEEING RIGHT NOW? ARE WE ALL GOOD WITH PICKING ONE OF THESE?
>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> IT GETS USED IN ALL DIFFERENT WAYS, DEPENDING ON
THE APPLICATION. >> I LIKE THE MEANING OF THE TREE, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING
ELSE SYMBOLIC IN PARKLAND IN THERE. >> [INAUDIBLE].
( O NOT SPEAKING INTO MICROPHONE ). >> YOU CAN'T MAKE IT BIGGER
BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULD LOSE THE FOOT. >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> I THINK THIS IS A STAND ALONE LOGO, THE BOTTOM ONE IS DEFINITELY BETTER, CONSIDERING YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REALLY SEE IT IN USAGE VERY OFTEN WITH THE P AS THE N PARKLAND, IT WILL
SAY THE LOGO AND PARKLAND UNDERNEATH IT. >> WHAT ABOUT THE BOTTOM ONE
OTHER THAN THE RICHNESS OF IT, IT SAYS PARKLAND? >> IT LITERALLY SAYS PARKLAND.
>> I HATE TO BREAK IT TO YOU BUT NOTHING ON THE BOTTOM SAYS PARKLAND LIKE THE ONE ON ITS
OWN. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> WHERE'S THAT LEAVE US?
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>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> [LAUGHTER]. I DIDN'T PICK UP THE MICROPHONE TO TALK. YOU'RE GOIPG TO BE IN THE SAME DILEMMA BECAUSE EVERYTHING YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IS GOOD AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE A NUANCE.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> [INAUDIBLE]. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY HARD TO
DO SHIRTS. >> SO I'M HEARING BOTTOM, VICE MAYOR --
>> [INAUDIBLE]. BASED ON WHAT I'M SEEING, WE WILL BE ABLE TO EMBROIDER SILKSCREEN, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO KEY CHAIN, HATS, GOLF BALLS BECAUSE EVERYBODY USES A KEY CHAIN NOW, SO I'M HEARING BOTTOM BUT I HEAR SOME AM B*IF LANCE ON THE PART OF VICE MAYOR BRIER, CAN YOU GIVE A TIP OF THE HAT NEW YORK CITY PUN INTENDED, TO THE BOTTOM.
MAYOR, CHECK TO YOU. >> WILL YOU WEAR A HAT? >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> YES, I'LL PROMISE YOU ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. [LAUGHTER].
ARE WE BACK TO THE DESIGNING IT NOW OR ARE WE CHOOSING? COMMISSIONER SAL MO*EN, ARE -- MURPHY-SALOMONE, REOKAY WITH THE BOTTOM? I'M SUSPECT NUMBER ONE.
SO, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE 4-1 FOR THE BOTTOM AND I'M TRYING TO PERSUADE VICE MAYOR BRIER TO
COME TO THE OTHER SIDE. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> WE'VE ALREADY SAID NO.
>> [INAUDIBLE] >> IN THE FIRST CASES SCENARIO, IT WOULD BE THERE, IT WOULDN'T
BE HALFHEARTED, IT WOULD NOT LOOK UNDONE, YEAH. >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> CAN YOU MAKE THE TOP PART OF THE R A ROUND-ABOUT? >> NOW WE'RE TALKING.
>> I'LL RETURN TO VICE MAYOR BRIER, CAN WE GET THE TIP OF A HAT SO IT'S A UNANIMOUS
[4.B. Discussion of City Commission Rules and Procedures]
DECISION? OKAY, CAP'S BEEN TIPPED. >> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA,
MAYOR. >> DISCUSSION OF CITY COMMISSION RULES AND PROCEDURES.
>> VICE MAYOR BRIER HAD ASKED TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE RULES AND REGS FOR COMMISSION MEETINGS. HRE'S A COPY OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. VICE MAYOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING TO
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DO? >> SURE, WHEN WE WE HAD OUR MEETING TWO MEETINGS A I DIDN'T LIKE THE FEELING THAT -- OR PERCEPTION EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T -- MAY HAVE JUST BEEN PERCEPTION AND I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO ALLOW THE COMMISSION INDIVIDUALLY TO ASK FOR SOMETHING TO BE PLACED ON A WORKSHOP AGENDA BEFORE THE CITY GOES AND CITY STAFF GOES AND PREPARES WHETHER IT'S A RESOLUTION OR AN ORDINANCE OR ANYTHING ELSE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION AND DO IT IN A FASHION WHERE WE'RE PREPARED AND EDUCATED IN ADVANCE. I KNOW THE MECHANISM EXISTS AS WE USED TO TO TWO MEETINGS WHERE YOU CAN ADD SOMETHING ON AN AGENDA BY ONE COMMISSIONER RAISING IT AND ASKING FOR A VOTE AND IT GOES ON THE AGENDA OF A FUTURE MEETING BUT I FELT LIKE THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A PERCEPTION THAT WAS BEING BLOCKED BY A DISCUSSION AND THAT WAS NOT -- SO, I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SAY ANY COMMISSIONER CAN ASK FOR SOMETHING TO BE PLACED ON A WORKSHOP ITEM SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT AND THEN GO FORWARD WITH -- IF WE STIED TO PUT IT ON THE GENERAL -- AS AN AGENDA ITEM IN A FULL MEETING, GREAT, IF THE DECISION IS NOT TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT ITEM, THAT'S FINE TOO, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK ON A PUBLICLY NOTED MEETING, TO AT LEAST SDUS AN ITEM. I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO FEEL THEIR THAT THEIR INTEREST OR AN AGENDA ITEM IS BEING SOMEHOW NOT HEARD OR NOT FOLLOWED UP ON OR DISCUSSED AS A BODY.
>> SO, I MAD THIS DISCUSSION EARLIER WITH NANCY. THE WAY I SEE HOW THE PROCESS WORKS IS WE PUT EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE IN STRATEGIC TIME, AND FROM THAT POINT, NANCY, IT'S HER AGENDA, RIGHT, BECAUSE WE'RE SETTING POLICY, SO THEN IT'S NANCY'S JOB TO FACILITATE HOW WE CAN GET THROUGH EVERYTHING AND SOMETIMES WE CAN GET THE THINGS FASTER, SOMETIMES IT TAKES LONGER BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE DO, WHETHER IT'S A WORKSHOP OR AGENDA, WHATEVER, IS A HEAVY LIFT FOR STAFF BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE 100 STAFF MEMBERS TO FACILITATE ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, SO STAFF HAS TO PRIORITIZE BUT REALLY THE AGENDA ROLLS THROUGH HER. I DON'T KNOW IF NANCY HAS EVER, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BRING A WORKSHOP ITEM, I DON'T THINK NANCY HAS EVER SAID NO, OR WE'RE NOT HAVING A WORKSHOP ON THAT. THOSE MECHANISMS FOR ME IS, WELL, I'VE ASKED 100 TIMES AND NANCY KEEPS SAYING NO, SO I NOW HAVE TO GO UP THERE, BECAUSE SHE'S SAYING NO WHICH I CAN'T IMAGINE CONSIDERING WE'RE HER BOSS, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, IT'S -- YOU HAVE TO PRIORITIZE AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF BIG ITEMS RIGHT NOW AND WE HAVE A LOT OF BIG ITEMS COMING UP LIKE WITH THE VILLAGE, THAT TAKES A LOT OF EFFORT FOR STAFF TO DO THAT, SO NANCY HAS TO PRIORITIZE. ONE OF THE THINGS NANCY HAS DONE RECENTLY OR MORE OFTEN, SHE'S SHOWING FUTURE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT ARE COMING UP, SO ANY COMMISSIONER CAN GO TO NANCY AND SAY, WEM, -- WELL, I DON'T SEE MY LIST, I ASKED FOR SOMETHING, EXPLAIN THE RATIONALE WHY IT'S NOT THERE YET. MAYBE B SHE HAS ONE.
LOOK, I JUST DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO THIS YET, WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S
URGENT, LET ME SHUFFLE STUFF AROUND. >> THIS IS A WAY TO AVOID WORK IF IT'S NOT NEEDED, IN MY VIEW, BECAUSE YOU CAN ADD IT TO AN EXISTING WORKSHOP THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, YOU'RE NOT SCHEDULE -- THE BIGGEST THING WILLS COME UP WITH STRATEGIC PLANNING, BUT THERE MIGHT BE AN ITEM THAT SOMETHING COMES UP AND A COMMISSIONER WANT TOS ADD SOMETHING FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSE THAT MAY NOT GET TO AN ORDINANCE OR A PROCLAMATION, IT'S MIDDLE GROUND BETWEEN THAT. IF YOU DO IT JUST THE WAY WE HAVE IT NOW, YOU HAVE TO BRING IT UP AT A FULL COMMISSION MEETING, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD IT TO AN AGENDA
ITEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND GET A SECOND ON IT. >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE
YOU CAN TALK TO NANCY. I CAN TALK TO NANCY. >> I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A PERCEPTION THAT ANYONE IS SOMEONE IS SOMEWHAT FOREWARNED FOR PUTTING SOMETHING ON AN
AGENDA. >> YOU CAN GO TO NANCY AND SAY I HAVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS
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ABOUT WHATEVER, CAN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS IN AN UPCOMING WORKSHOP, AND THEN NANS SAY *F -- NAPS SI COULD SAY WE HAVE A WORKSHOP COMING UP.>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SECOND LAST MEET HATING OFFENDED YOU IN SOME WAY, THERE'S AO PERCEPTION THAT SOMETHING'S TRYING TO PUSH THROUGH WITHOUT PEOPLE HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ UP ON IT, ALL THE COMMISSION ASKED FOR IS WORKSHOP, I SAID GREAT, LET'S DO IT. I DIDN'T OPPOSE IT AND NOTHING HAPPENED, SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE IRONY OF THE REASON THAT HAD TO HAPPEN IS BECAUSE OF VERY THING OF WELL, WE SHOULD DO WORKSHOPS IF SOMEONE WANT TOS DISCUSS SOMETHING, THAT'S WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME.
YOU CAN GO BACK TO OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING -- NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ORDINANCE, IT WAS ABOUT ALL COMMENTS ABOUT SEMITISM STUFFER. MAYOR, IF YOU WANT TO DEBATE THIS, I WILL BECAUSE THIS IS NOW THE PROBLEM, MAYOR, YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE TO SPEAK DWO, BACK AND LOOK AT THE MINUTES, WHAT I TAKE OFFENSE TO, STOP, I'M TIRED OF YOU, MAY YO, YOU KEEP TALKING OVER ME, SOMETHING HAPPENED WITH THE LEGO, -- LOGO, I'M GOING TO GIVE MY ON.
THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR A WHILE AND WHEN I BROUGHT IT UP, YOU GUYS COULD
HAVE SAID NO, WE DON'T WANT TO. >> BUT WE W*E DID WANT TO. >> BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT, LET ME FINISH SPEAKING. IF YOU GUYS LAD A PROBLEM WITH IT, WE ALL HAVE A DIALOGUE, YOU RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE, WE'VE DONE THAT ON EVERYTHING. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AGAIN TOUPT GO BACK AND YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES, I WILL SEND THEM TO YOU, THEY ARE PUBLIC RECORD. THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND EVERY TIME I BROUGHT IT UP, ALL NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE NEED THE HAVE A WORKSHOP.
I DIDN'T JUST SAY NO. >> I WAS STRINGING TOG FA CILITATE A PROCESS, RIGHT NOW
THERE'S NO PROCESS. >> YOU SAID I HAVE TO LEARN ABOUT IT BETWEEN EVERY COMMISSION MEETING, IT'S IP COUPLE BENT UPON ALL OF US TO TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO LEARN
WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. >> YOU'RE TAKING YOUR INCIDENT AS AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.
WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION TWO YEARS AGO ABOUT ONE COMMISSIONER ADDING AN ITEM TO AN AGENDA ITEM ON THEIR OWN. FOR ME THIS WAS A MIDDLE GROUND. THE PUSHBACK AT THAT TIME IS WE HAVE TO CAOEREATE AN ORDINANCE OR STAFF HAS TO DO A LOT OF WORK TO DO THAT.
IF ONLY ONE COMMISSIONER IS INTERESTED IN DOING IT AND DOESN'T GET THE BUY-IN FROM TWO OTHERS D NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IT WITH A WORK SHP. -- WORKSHOP.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE, YOU'RE GETTING THE SAME DILIGENCE.
>> IF I CAN SAY SOMETHING -- >> I'M TRYING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS, I'M TRY *F NOT TRYING
TO CREATE ONE. >> I KNOW YOU'RE NOT, I WANT TO ADDRESS -- I THINK PERSONALLY YOU ARE TAKING THIS PERSONALLY, YOU CAN LAUGH ALL YOU WANT, I'VE SEEN YOUR REACTION, MAYOR,
IF ANYONE'S TAKING THIS PERSONALLY, IT'S YOU. >> IN 2023, WE DID AN ORDINANCE AGAINST ANTI-SEMITISM, RIGHT, YES, WE DID. HE ASKED, COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE] ASKED FOR ANTI-JEW OR WHATEVER DEFAMATION, WE DID THAT.
>> ANTI-JEW HATE PROCLAMATION. >> IF I COULD -- >> IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT,
[INAUDIBLE]. >> I'M NOT GETTING INTO NUANCES, I'M SHOWING YOU THE THINGS WE DID. I GOT SUED IN FEDERAL COURT WHEN THE ANTI-SEMITISM --
BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING THIS AS WE'RE TRYING NOT TO SUPPORT YOU. >> LISTEN TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID
AND I'M GOING TO END IT THERE. >> HERE IS THE THOUGHT, OKAY, THE PUSHBACK WAS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ONE COMMISSIONER ADDING AN ITEM TO AN AGENDA OUTSIDE OF A MEETING, THE PUSHBACK WAS, YOU MAY BE SPINNING WHEELS BECAUSE WITH MAY HAVE SOMETHING PLAN INED THE FUTURE, IT MAY BE SOMETHING THATS ON THE RADAR, SO MY POINT WAS AS -- YOU CAN STILL TA DO* THAT, I'M NOT TAKING THAT A*F POWER AWAY, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION AT A PUBLIC COMMISSION MEET, AS LONG AS THEY GET A SECOND, THAT PROCESS STILL GOES.
ER >> YOU'RE LOOKING TO GET ONE COMMISSIONER --
>> I'M LOOKING TO SAY A COMMISSIONER CAN ADD SOMETHING TO A WORKSHOP, IT COULD BE THE NEXT WORKSHOP A STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP, I DON'T THINK THERE'S EVER BEEN PUSHBACK TO YOUR POINT BUT IT'S ALSO NOT CODIFIED, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING, THERE WAS NEVER
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PUSHBACK BUT IT WAS NEVER CODIFIED. >> I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE'S --
AGAIN, I WAS TRYING TO FACILITATE A DIALOGUE. >> JUST TO BE KLAOE, WORKSHOPS ALSO COULD BE A CHALLENGE, TODAY'S A GREAT EXAMPLE IS WE RAN, HAD GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LOGO, THIS WAS ADDED ON O THE WORKSHOP AND THERE'S NOT EVEN ENOUGH TIME TOE HAVE A
REAL DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS EITHER. >> YOU CAN BRING A MOTION -- THE ONLY WAY TO PUT IT ON DEFINITIVELY IS TO BRING IT TO A REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING
AND BRING A MOTION. >> I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S HOW THE PROCESS IS NOW.
I DON'T SAY I DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I ALWAYS THOUGHT WE COULD ADD
SOMETHING TO THE AGENDA ITEM. >> WELL, -- >> BY TALKING TO NANCY.
>> THE PERCEPTION IS THAT PROCESS WAS SOMEHOW NOT THE CASE TLA,'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO
COME UP WITH THIS AS A SOLUTION TO IT. >> I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION, IF IT
AMES FOR LACK OF SUPPORT, THAT'S FINE. >> SO, --
>> MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER CAN ADD AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION AT A FUTURE WORKSHOP. THIS IS NOT AFFECTING ANY INDIVIDUAL BEING ABLE TO ADD AN IE TOME A FUTURE AGENDA BY BRINGING IT UP AT A CITY COMMISSION MEETING.
>> SIMPLY WORKSHOP. >> CORRECT, FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSE.
THERE MAY BE OTHER INPUT WE CAN GATHER AT A COMMISSION WORKSHOP TO SAY -- AND THIS IS NOT TAKING THE ORDINANCE AS AN EXAMPLE, THIS IS TAKING FIVE OTHER THINGS AS AN EXAMPLE WHERE JUST LIKE WE DID COLLECTIVELY GIVING OUR INPUT ON THE LOGO.
DON'T FORGET, THAT CAME UP AT A MEETING TOO WHERE WE WENT FROM OUR INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS TO VOTE ONING A LOGO AT A COMMISSION MEETING AND IT WASS AWKWARD BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A WORKSHOP BEFOREHAND TO SIT AND GO OVER IT. WHEN WE WERE TALK K ABOUT THE LOGO, MY THOUGHT WAS THIS IS A SOLUTION BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE A DIALOGUE AT A WORKSHOP AND SET IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM GOING FORWARD. WE ALL SAID LET'S PUNT IT.
>> YES BUT WITH THE LOGO, WE SET OUT POLICY A PROCESS THAT WE WERE GOING TO USE. --
>> [INAUDIBLE]. ER >> WE SET OUT THIS IS
GOT TO BE SOME PREPARATION WLIT'S A RESOLUTION. >> YOU CAN STILL GO TO NANCY AND GET SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA. YOU DON'T NEED TO GO UP THERE AND SAY --
>> I CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. IF IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE CONTROVRSIAL
ISSUES, THEN I WOULD EASILY PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, YEAH. >> BUT DO WE THINK WE WANT TO
AMEND THE SECTION -- >> TO INCLUDE WORKSHOP? >> YEAH.
>> WELL, YOU WANT A COMMISSIONER TO PUT IT ON A WORKSHOP, ONE COMMISSIONER.
>> RIGHT. >> MY PROPOSAL IS ONE COMMISSIONER CAN ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO PUT IT ON THE WORKSHOP. WE HAVE IT INFORMALLY NOW AND THAT'S THE MAYOR'S POINT. I'M NOT SAYING IT DOESN'T EXIST INFORMALLY, THIS WOULD CODIFY
IT. >> I DON'T HAVE A A PROBLEM WITH IT.
>> WHAT WE'LL DO IS PREPARE A RESOLUTION FOR A COMMISSION MEETING UPDATING THAT AND THEN
YOU GUYS VOTE ON IT. >> PRIME EXAMPLE F WE DIDN'T HAVE A CON SEN TODAY THAT OTHER PEOPLE SUPPORTED THE IDEA, IT WOULDN'T BE A COMMISSION ITEM AT THE NEXT MEETING.
>> RIGHT, OKAY. >> OR THE NEXT SCHEDULED WORKSHOP, WHATEVER IT IS, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE INDEPENDENTLY SCHEDULED.
IT COULD BE THE NEXT ONE COMING UP. >> ALRIGHT, THANKS.
>> WORKSHOP
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.