Feb 12, 2026 Planning and Zoning

[1. Call to Order]

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>> GOOD EVENING, CALLING THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING CITY OF PARKLAND.

TODAY IS THURSDAY FEBRUARY 12, 6. PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ROLL CALL PLEASE.

ALEX LAZOWICK ABSENT. >> THANK YOU. ITEM 4 TONIGHT.

[4. Approval of Minutes]

DEREK. CALL FOR THE VOTE. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> MOTION CARRIES. THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON AND ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA? SEEING NONE. CLOSE IT TO THE PUBLIC.

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[7. Approval of the Agenda]

THIS EVENING'S AGENDA IS FOR PUBLIC HEARING ITEM A. >> IT'S THE APPROVAL AGENDA.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING. I WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA OR

IF THERE WERE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> BY TODD, SECOND BY JORDANA. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> MOTION CARRY.

[8.A. Resolution 2025-024: Shoppes of Parkland Trash Compactor (Item pulled from August 13, 2025 City Commission Meeting)]

EFFECTIVE DATE. CAITLIN. >> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. I WILL GIVE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION AND THEN I WILL TURN IT TO THE APPLICANT TEAM TO GIVE THEIR POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. SHOPPES PARKLAND TRASH C COME PACKTOR. YOU SAW THIS ITEM IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ORIENTATION.

THIS SCOPE OF WORK IS THE SAME. IT'S ADDING THE TRACK COMPACTTOR TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING IN REPLACEMENT OF SOME OF THE TRADITIONAL DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES. THE CONCEPT IS TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL CAPACITY FOR THEM AS THEY'VE BEEN HAVING SIGNIFICANT TRASH GENERATION.

THIS WILL HELP THEM BETTER MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY. REASON WE BROUGHT THIS BACK BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD EVEN THOUGH YOU MADE A MOTION OAPPROVE IT AT THE LAST MEETING IT'S S IS BASED ON THE REORIENTATION AND DESIGN OF THAT COMPACTER.

APPLICANT TEAM WILL PRESENT THEIR POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF FOLKS FROM THEIR TEAM ON TEAMS. IF YOU HEAR FOLKS COMING FROM THE ETHER THEY ARE ONLINE AND

AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AS WELL. >> GOOD EVENING, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

I BELIEVE EVERYBODY HERE WAS HERE LAST YEAR WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS.

CAITLIN, SAID IT'S THE SAME LOCATION AND CONCEPT WE JUST ROTATED THE COMPACTER.

THIS THE PROPOSED LOCATION. IT'S AT THE SHOPPES OF PARKLAND. THE ARROW IN YELLOW IS THE

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IT KIND OF ACTS AS AB-- AS AN OUT PARCEL. THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE COMPACTER. INITIALLY WHEN WE CAME HERE IN MAY OF LAST YEAR, IT WAS GOING TO BE ORIENTED SOUTHWEST COMING INTO THAT T INTERSECTION THERE AND TAKING UP THAT ONE PARKING SPACE. WE ARE REORIENTING IT. WHEN THE TRASH SERVICE COMES TO PICK UP THE C COMPACTER THEY WIL BE IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP THAT SECOND PARKING SPATE. WE'RE MOVING INTO THAT SECOND SPACE.

THIS IS LITTLE BIT OF OVERVIEW AND THE HISTORY WHY WE'RE HERE. THE SHOPPING PLAZA HAS SEVEN TENANTS, FIVE OF THEM ARE FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND THEY GENERATE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRASH.

I'M SURE EVERYBODY IS AWARE, THERE'S A TRASH OVERFLOWING ISSUE AT THE PLAZA.

WHICH IS WE ARE TRYING TO CONVERT TWO OF OUR DUMPSTERS TO THIS TRASH COMPACTER WITH THE REORIENTATION WITH THE COMPACTER. LET ME TAKE A STEP BACK.

THERE'S TWO DUMPSTERS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THERE'S TWO FOUR YARD RECYCLING BINS AND TWO FOUR YARD TRASH BINS. WE ARE GOING TO BE REMOVING THE MOST SOUTHERN TRASH ENCLOSURE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THIS DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE.

THE NORTHERN ENCLOSURE WILL HAVE TWO FOUR YARD RECYCLE BIN. OUR TRASH CAPACITY GOES FROM 8 YARDS OF TRASH TO 30 YARDS OF TRASH IN THIS COMPACTER. WHAT THAT DOES FROM AN OPERATION STANDPOINT, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 13 TRIPS TO THE SITE BETWEEN TRASH AND RECYCLING.

THAT'S GOING TO GO DOWN TO SEVEN OUR TRASH TRIPS IS GOING TO BE REDUCED TO ONE.

RECYCLING IS GOING TO REMAIN AT SIX. THIS IS A VERSION OF OUR SITE PLAN. YOU CAN SEE THE AREA OUTLINED IN THE DASH LINE IN BLACK.

THAT'S THE SCOPE OF WORK. THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY PLACE WHERE WE'RE MAKING A CHANGE TO THE EXISTING SITE PLAN IS THE TRASH COMPACTER IN THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE.

THIS IS JUST FOR REFERENCE. WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD IN MAY ON THE LEFT.

IT ORIENTED DOWN IN THE T INTERSECTION. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THE TRASH TRUCK IS GOING TO COME IN FROM THE SOUTH GO UP, PICK UP THE COMPACTER, THEY EMPTY IT OFF SITE AND THEY THEY COME BACK AND BRING IT BACK. THEY'RE NOT EMPTYING IT ON SITE.

IT'S ABOUT TEN MINUTES WHEN THEY'RE ON THE PROPERTY JUST TO LOAD THE COMPACTER ON TO THE TRUCK AND GET OUT. WE HAVE SOME VISUALS YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.

THE TRASH COMPACTER WILL BE SCREENED WITH A WALL. THERE'S GOING TO BE AT THE TIME OF PLANNING ABOUT 5 FEET. THE HEDGE WILL GROW ABOUT 9 FEET.

THE HEDGE MATERIAL MATCHES THE HEDGE MATERIAL THAT'S IN INTENSE WITH THE PLAZA.

IT WIL TO BE SEAMLESS. THAT'S IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD BEFORE THE APPLICANT?

>> CAN WE IDENTIFY WHO'S ON THE PHONE? >> I THINK WE HAVE JULIA, LAND PLANNER, ROBIN HARDER WHO IS OUR TRASH CONSULTER JUST IN CASE THERE'S QUESTIONS FROM OPERATION TRASH LOGISTICAL STANDPOINT. WE HAVE OUR ARCHITECT IN THE AUDIENCE.

>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTION HE IS F -- QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

>> YES. >> JOEL? >> I APPRECIATE THE ROTATION OF THE ENCLOSURE. WILL THE ENCLOSURE HAVE A SEWER DRAIN?

>> IT WILL NOT. THE COMPACTER THAT WE'RE USING IS A SELF-CONTAINED COMPACTER.

IT'S MEANT FOR WET TRASH AS WELL. IT DOESN'T NEED A SEWER DRAIN.

>> MY CONCERN WITH THAT IS MORE OF THE TIMES WHEN 16, 17-YEAR-OLD WILL BE TAKING OUT THE TRASH MISAND IT GETS ALL OVER THE GROUND. WHAT ENTITY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE

FOR CLEANING THE ENCLOSURE? >> WE HAVE A PORTER ON SITE. LET ME GIVE YOU BACKUP.

THERE'S BEEN SOME TURNOVER WITHIN THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY. THERE'S BEEN JUST IN THE COURSE

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THEY DO PRESSURE WASHING ABOUT ONCE A MONTH. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, IF THERE'S A SPILL THAT'S CAUSING SOMETHING THAT NEEDS THE AREA TO BE PRESSURE WASHED, TO NOTIFY US AND WE WOULD HANDLE THAT. THERE SUPPOSED TO BE ROUTINE

PRESSURE WASHING AND MAINTENANCE. >> IT IS OWNERSHIP THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE AREA? THE INDIVIDUAL TENANTS WILL BRING THEIR TRASH TO IT? IS IT ALL FOUR TIMES? I KNOW YOU SAID TWO.

>> YES. >> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE

APPLICANT? >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. WITH RECONFIGURATION, DOES IT AFFECT TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVER SEEN PEOPLE TRYING TO GET GASOLINE AT THE B.J.'S THERE AND HOW FAR THE CAR EXTEND. I WOULD SAY MOSTLY ON THE WEEKENDS IN PARTICULAR. IS THERE ANY IMPACT WITH RESPECT TO THAT?

>> THE CHANGE IN CONFIGURATION WAS MEANT TO HELP THAT SITUATION.

RIGHT NOW, WHEN THE TRUCK IS ACTUALLY STOPPED IN THE SITE FOR THE TEN MINUTES, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON THE WEST SIDE AS OPPOSED TO THE T INTERSECTION. THE TRASH WILL DRIVE THROUGH THE

B.J.'S AREA. >> IN OTHER WORDS, NOT FARTHER AWAY FROM WHERE THE GASOLINE

PUMPS ARE? >> YES. >> FORGIVE ME, I MUCH ABOUT TRASH COMPACTERS. IS THERE ANY CHANGE OF NOISE LEVEL OR THE SMELL OF IT OR THINGS THAT NATURE? REMEMBER, RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THAT, THERE IS A PROFESSIONAL BUILDING. IN ADDITION TO JUST REGULAR RESTAURANTS AND THINGS OF THAT

NATURE. ANYTHING CHANGE IN THAT REGARD? >> NOTHING HAS CHANGED FROM OUR PREVIOUS PLAN. I'LL NOTE WE DID REACH ON THE ADJACENT OFFICE BUILDING BEFORE WE CAME HERE. WE REACHED OUT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE REORIENTED BUILDING.

IN TERMS OF SMELL AND NOISE, THERE'S DUMPSTERS OPEN WITH NO ODOR CONTROL.

THE COMPACTER HAVE OZONE SMELL SYSTEM. THERE'S A HOSE THAT CONNECTS IN THE COMPACTER PUMPS OZONE INTO IT WHICH CREATES AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THE BACTERIA CAN'T GENERATE. THAT'S WHAT CAUSES THE SMELL. THERE'S A SMELL CONTROL SYSTEM IN PLACE WHICH IS NOT IN PLACE FOR THE CURRENT DUMPSTERS. IN TERMS OF NOISE, I HAVE TO

LOOK. THE -- >> THE NEIGHBOR AND THE PROFESSIONAL BUILDING DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THE COMPACTER?

>> YES. THEY DIDN'T RESPOND TO US. >> THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE SOME. THIS ISSUE ACCORDING TO THE NOTES THAT WE HAVE AND THE MEMORANDUM HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE AUGUST 13, 2025.

THIS IS OBVIOUSLY BEEN RESEARCHED A LOT. CAITLIN MENTIONED EVEN BEFORE ALL THIS 13TH OF 2025 THAT THEY WERE WORKING ON THIS. I TRY TO BE MINDFUL.

I SAID BEFORE, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AS WE ADVISE THE CITY COMMISSION ARE WE ADVISING THEM WHAT BENEFITS RESIDENTS BENEFITS BUSINESS OWNERS TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO INVITE ONE OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS HERE TONIGHT. PRESENT IN THE AUDIENCE. AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

IF HE WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I DID INVITE MR. KAPLAN WHO'S A BUSINESS OWNER AT PARKLAND BAGELS. HE'S WELL-KNOWN BY MANY OF THE PEOPLE. THIS IS NOT A PLUG FOR THE BAGEL STORE.

HE'S KNOWN BY MANY OF US ON THE BOARD. I THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT.

THE CODE VIOLATIONS PREVIOUS, HAVE THEY ALL BEEN RECTIFIED? >> THEY HAVE BEEN.

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>> IS THE PROPERTY OWNER RESPONSIBLE TO CONTACT THE BUSINESS OWNERS? IS IT REQUIREMENT IN THE CODE RELATES TO THIS? THEY HAVE AN IDEA WHAT'S GOING

ON? >> THERE'S NO NOTICE REQUIREMENT FOR THIS TYPE OF APPLICATION TO

THE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS OWNERS. >> I LOOK AT THIS MORE AS A PROBLEM SOLVING ISSUE AND ADVISING THE COMMISSION ON HOW TO SOLVE A PROBLEM. I'M HOPEFUL THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DONE HERE IS GOING TO DO THAT. IN THE CASE WHERE THESE CHANGES DO NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM, CAITLIN. THE APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY COMING HERE ASKING FOR A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT. THE CITY IS NOT ASKING FOR ONE.

IN THE CASE WHERE THIS DOESN'T WORK, THERE'S A CHANCE THAT WE TRY TO SOLVE A PROBLEM IT DOESN'T WORK. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THEN? WE COULDN'T FORCE THEM TO DO

ANOTHER SITE PLAN AMENDMENT. WE WOULD ENFORCE THE CODE? >> UNLESS TRIGGERED A CODE VIOLATION, WE CAN'T FORCE THEM TO COME IN WITH ANOTHER APPLICATION WITH ALTERNATIVE DESIGN. WE HAVE TO LEAN ON CODE ENFORCEMENT.

OTHERWISE IT'S UP TO THE APPLICANT'S DISCRETION TO BRING IN THEIR APPLICATIONS AND

REQUEST ALTERNATIVE DESIGNS. >> WE WANT TO BE SURE AND MAKE AN EFFORT TO MAKE CHANGES.

I'M HOPEFUL THAT THIS DOES MAKE A CHANGE FOR THE POSITIVE. I HOPE MR. KAPLAN OR ANYBODY LISTENING OUT THERE ON THE WEB IF THEY THOUGHT THAT THIS WASN'T GOING TO WORK THEY WOULD CHIME IN. I DID APPROVE THE LAST GO AROUND ON THIS FOR THE POINT OF WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING. THE EXPERTS AND PEOPLE AND STAFF BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE TO TRAY TO RECTIFY THE PROBLEM.

THAT'S BASICALLY MY QUESTIONS AND MY STATEMENTS. I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER.

>> ANYTHING FURTHER? >> YES, THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR.

I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE VIOLATIONS AND WERE THEY SATISFIED.

I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF ONEROUS ON CITY STAFF TO REGULATE THIS. IT WILL SMELL. IT WILL LOOK BAD.

IT WILL LOOK BETTER THAN IT DOES NOW. THERE'S A BUNCH OF -- I DROVE BY YESTERDAY -- THERE WAS A BUNCH OF CRATES OUT BACK, PALLETS RATHER.

THAT HAS TO GO AWAY. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, THEN THAT HAS TO GO AWAY.

THE DUMPSTERS THEMSELVES LOOK HORRIBLE. IT'S ON THE -- NOT TO THROW STONES HERE MR. KAPLAN, NO RELATION BY THE WAY. IT'S ON THE STAFF OF THE RESTAURANTS AND THE OTHER BUSINESSES THERE TO MAKE SURE THOSE GATES GET CLOSED OR IT'S ON OWNERSHIP TO HAVE THE PORTER DO IT. THE PORTER WILL NOT BE ON SITE WHEN THEY ARE CLOSING UP MOST NIGHTS. I DO THINK WE NEED TO -- I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE LATITUDE TO DO THIS, MR. ATTORNEY. MAYBE THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER WHO'S A CIVIL ENGINEER CAN ANSWER THIS. REQUIRE A SEWER DRAIN THERE.

NOT HAVING A DRAIN GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. >> I CAN TELL YOU.

I'M GOING TO LET THEM ANSWER. I WANT TO CHIME IN. I BELIEVE IF I RECALL A COUPLE OF COMMENTS I HAD IN THE LAST GO AROUND WERE FOR RESTAURANTS WHICH ARE LICENSED THROUGH SIZE OF CITY, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH OR DEPARTMENT OF HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS DO REQUIRE DUMPSTERS FOR RESTAURANTS. IN MANY INSTANCES REQUIRE NOT ONLY A DRAIN BUT A HOSE BIB AND TYPICALLY THE DRAIN OR MOST ALL THAT I REMEMBER, A DRAIN AND DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE WOULD HAVE TO BE TIED TO A STRAP. MY COMMENT IS THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER DUMPSTERS ENCLOSURES THERE WITH DUMPSTERS, NOT TO ASSUME ANYTHING, IT SHOULD BE VERIFIED SO THAT DOING THIS CHANGE DOESN'T COMPROMISE WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR THE OPERATION AND THE LICENSING OF THE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE THERE OR FUTURE RESTAURANTS THAT'S THERE.

WHETHER OR NOT THIS LAYOUT PASS THROUGH WASTE MANAGEMENT OR NOT. WHOEVER THE COMPACT COMPANY

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>> I WILL HAVE TO -- WE RAN IT BY OUR TRASH CONSULTANT. I CAN SHOW YOU.

I DON'T KNOW IT'S BEEN RUN BY EXACTLY OUR PRIVATE PROVIDER. WE DID ESSENTIAL FIT FEST WITH THE TRUCK. THAT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY CITY STAFF AND OUR TRASH CONSULTANT.

>> I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST DUMPSTER COMPACTERS AND ENCLOSURES, COMPACTERS SPECIFICALLY, THEY REQUIRE ELECTRICAL SET UP, OF COURSE AND THAT IS ALL DONE THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS. THE LOCATION HAS TO BE TO CONFORM TO THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S BEING PROVIDED. I CAUTION TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ALL DONE AND LAYOUT SO THE PHYSICAL CURB AND ROADWAY AND DUMPSTER ACCESS IS ACCOUNTED FOR.

THAT'S ALL. >> IS THE DRAIN REQUIRED? >> A DUMPSTER IN AN ENCLOSURE TO

MY KNOWLEDGE -- >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IS REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF

ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND PERMITTING IF IT'S REQUIRED. >> I BELIEVE THE ANSWER IS YES, IT IS REQUIRED. IT IS REQUIRED. I KNOW THAT MANY YEARS AGO IT WAS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOTELS AND RESTAURANT. MR. TRACY.

WE HAVE A QUESTION THAT CAME UP. YOU HAPPEN TO WALK BY. THE QUESTION THAT CAME UP PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. THE QUESTION IS ARE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES THAT ARE SERVICING RESTAURANTS REQUIRED TO HAVE A DRAIN AND OR WATER HOSE BIB OR IS THE DRAIN REQUIRED TO BE TIED

TO A GREASE TRAP OR GREASE RECEPTACLE? >> GOOD EVENING.

WILLIAM TRACY BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR CITY OF PARKLAND. A STANDARD DUMPSTER DOES REQUIRE TYPICALLY A TRENCH DRAIN OFTEN TIED INTO THE GREASE TRAP. IF IT'S A COMPACTER, MOST OF THE MODERN COMPACTERS ARE SELF-CONTAINED. THEY DON'T NEED THAT.

>> THAT WAS WHAT THE APPLICANT STATED. THANK YOU.

MY INPUT WAS TO CHECK -- >> IT WOULD BE IN THE COMPACTER SPECS.

>> CHECK WITH THE EXISTING LICENSED RESTAURANTS THAT ARE OPERATING BASED ON THEIR LICENSING THROUGH THE HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT TAKING WEAR THE DUMPSTER, THE ONE DUMPSTER WOULD NOT COMPROMISE THEIR LICENSING AND IT WOULDN'T AFFECT ANYBODY UNTIL UNLESS THIS WAS A CHANGE IF -- CHANGE IN PERMIT OR USE OR PERHAPS AN INSPECTION.

ONE DUMPSTER SHOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE WITH RESPECT TO REQUIREMENT EVERY REQUIREMENT COULD USE IT. THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT. JUST NOT TO COMPROMISE THE OTHER

BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE. >> I STILL THINK A DRAIN IS A GOOD IDEA.

JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE CODE DOESN'T MEAN IT SHOULDN'T BE.

>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? >> WELL, JOEL MAKES A GREAT POINT. I LIKE TO HEAR WHAT LIZ HAS TO SAY ABOUT THAT COMMENT THAT YOU JUST MADE ABOUT THE DRAIN. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, LIZ? CURRENT CONFIGURATION THAT WE HAVE IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. IT WAS NOT DESIGNED.

I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT WILL BE INVOLVED TO ADD.IF IT'S FEESABLE.

I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I HAVE TO TALK TO THE TEAM. WE DIDN'T DESIGN FOR THAT

BECAUSE IT'S NOT REQUIRED. I HEAR WHAT YOU SAYING. >> ALEX, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS? >> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE LAYOUT.

WHAT ABOUT VISUAL OBSTRUCTION -- YOU SAID 9 FEET, COMING DOWN TO MAKE A RIGHT OR PERSON MAKING A

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MAYBE THERE WAS SOMETHING TO PUT -- I DON'T KNOW IF A RECOMMENDATION PUTTING A MIRROR SOMETHING SO I CAN VISUALLY SEE AROUND THE CORNER. SOMEONE COMES IN JUST TO PREVENT

ACCIDENTS. >> JUST IN TERMS OF THE LANDSCAPING, THE HEIGHT WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THE CODE. THAT'S WHY THE LANDSCAPING THAT WE HAVE AND THE HEIGHT THAT WE HAVE, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT. THE APPLICATION WAS REVIEWED BY FIRE.

THEY ADJUSTED WHERE STOP SIGN AND STOP BAR WILL BE TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS WITH VISIBILITY AROUND THE CORNER. IF THERE IS A MIRROR, THAT IS DEEMED NECESSARY THAT WILL BE HELPFUL. WE'RE OPEN TO THAT. WE DID HAVE IT REVIEWED FOR

PURPOSES OF THIS BUILDING. >> THANK YOU. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD INPUT.

ANYBODY ELSE? QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? TODD?

>> I TOOK A FEW PICTURES MYSELF YESTERDAY. I WANTED TO GET A SENSE BEYOND JUST THE ONE OR TWO PICTURES PROVIDED HERE. NUMBER ONE, EVEN IN YOUR OWN PICTURE, THE DOORS OF THE DUMPSTER IS OPEN. AS A MATTER OF FACT, YESTERDAY, ALL THREE OR FOUR DUMPSTERS, EVERY DOOR IS OPEN. I FOUND THAT ANNOYING.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH APPROVING THIS OR NOT. AT THIS TIME ANNOYING.

I DON'T KNOW YOU SAID THEY ARE CAUGHT UP WITH THE VIOLATIONS OR WHATEVER.

I'M CURIOUS, WHEN THOSE VIOLATIONS WERE CLEARED? >> THEY CLEARED THEIR LAST VIOLATION RELATING TO GRAFFITI THE OTHER WEEK. WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY VIOLATIONS PERTAINING TO THE DOORS BEING OPEN OR ANY OTHER VIOLATIONS AT THIS POINT.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG VIOLATIONS WERE OPEN PRIOR TO THAT.

IT'S SUSPECT HOW ALL SUDDEN THEY ARE RESOLVED. IT BOTHERS GOING THERE SEEING EVERY GATE OPEN. I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE MOVING ONE PROBLEM TO ANOTHER TO A MUCH LARGER STRUCTURE WITH PROBABLY LARGER DOORS. I DON'T KNOW THE DIMENSIONS.

THAT'S ONE ITEM. I DON'T EXPECT AN ANSWER. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET THAT TO BE FIXED. SECONDLY, LOOKING AT THE PICTURES, YOU'RE TAKING TWO

SPOTS. >> YES. >> WHICH CAN YOUS THE MEDIAN IN BETWEEN THE TWO SPOTS. THE DUMPSTERS FACING NORTH TO SOUTH OR EAST TO WEST?

>> IT'S FACING NORTHWEST. IT'S POINTING IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER.

>> LIKE ANGLE AROUND THE BUILDING? >> FACING THE BACK OF THE

BUILDING. >> IF YOU CAN SEE THIS IMAGE OFF TO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE MIGHT BE THE EASIEST. UP TO THE NORTH NORTHEAST IS THE EXISTING BUILDING WITH THE EXISTING SIDEWALK. THE COMPACTER, NOW, THE DOORS WHERE THE TRASH TRUCKS WILL PICK IT UP IS IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER. YOU CAN SEE THE GATES IN THE TOP LEFT HAND SIDE. THE GATE FOR THE TENANT AND THE RESTAURANTS TO PUT THEIR TRASH INTO THE COMPACTER IS ON THE EAST SIDE. YOU CAN SEE THAT LITTLE OVAL OFF TO THE RIGHT WHERE SAYS GATE, IT'S ONE SMALLER DOOR AND THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURERS.

THAT'S WHERE THE TENANTS OPEN THE DOOR. IT'S KEY LOCK DOOR.

THEY CAN OPEN AND PUT THEIR TRASH IN THE COMPACTER. WE'RE ADDING BACK IN THE

P.E--PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK. >> THE TRUCK WHEN IT COMES TO PICK UP THE COMPACTER TO BE FACING NORTHWEST AND BACK INTO THE SOUTHEAST. ARE THEY GOING TO BE IN THE

ALLEYWAY BLOCKING THE ALLEYWAY? >> THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN THAT SERVICE AISLE DRIVE FOR THE TEN MINUTES THIS THEY ARE THERE. THEY GO UP NORTH AND EXIT OUT THROUGH THE EAST SIDE.

THEY'RE NO WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TRUCK IS OUT OF THE ALLEY IF WE'RE RELOCATING THINGS?

>> THERE'S NO SPACE. IT'S A SMALL DRIVE AISLE WITH THE BUILDING THERE.

WE HAD MOVE OUR WATER METERS. THIS IS THE LEAST SPOT THAT WE CAN DO.

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THERE'S ALL SORTS OF EASEMENTS IN PLACE THAT WE CAN'T BUILD OVER OR OBSTRUCT.

>> OKAY, THE GATES TO THIS COMPACTER ARE FACING NORTHWEST? >> CORRECT.

>> HOW FAR EAST THIS TRUCK. YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT MUCH SPACE TO THE EAST.

WEIRD CONFIGURATION. IT DOES KIND OF BULGE OUT THERE A LITTLE BIT.

DUMPSTERS. HOW MANY WILL STAY THERE? >> TWO.

>> IS IT FOR THE MOST PART ASK -- ISIS IT APPROPRIATE TO ASK FR AUTOMATIC HINGES TO CLOSE?

>> THAT'S GOING TO BE A TOUGH CALL. >> HOLD ON.

SPEAK UP IF YOU WANT TO RESPOND. >> THAT MAYBE A TOUGH CALL BECAUSE WHEN YOU TRYING TO PUT TRASH INTO THE ACTUAL DUMPSTERS THEMSELVES, IT CLOSES ON YOU. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM IN

THERE. IT CONNECTS AND PINS YOU IN. >> TO THE EXISTING DUMPSTERS?

>> YES. >> PLUS THE DUMPSTER GATES ARE SUBSTANTIAL IN WEIGHT.

>> MY ONLY CONCERN IS BUSINESSES AROUND IT. I KNOW YOU SAID THERE'S A BUSINESS OWNER HERE. I GUESS I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT MOVING A PROBLEM FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER AND CREATING A MUCH

BIGGER PROBLEM WITH MUCH LARGER STRUCTURE. >> ALEX?

>> JUST TO TOUCH ON WHAT TODD SAID. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO HAVE A MOTION SENSOR? WHICH MAYBE IF THERE WAS NO ACCESS OR ANYONE IN BETWEEN, INFRARED LIGHTS LIKE WE HAVE ON GARAGE DOORS OR DOOR WHERE NOBODY WAS THERE FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME AND THE DOORS WOULD AUTOMATICALLY CLOSE OR WOULD THAT BE TOO DANGEROUS? IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION. THE DOORS -- THESE PICTURES WE KEEP SEEING THEM OPEN AND PEOPLE JUST THROWING THINGS IN, IT MIGHT REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF GARBAGE THAT GOES IN OTHER THAN

WHAT THE TENANTS THROWING IN ON THEIR OWN. >> THAT WILL BE A QUESTION FOR THE POLITICAL. -- APPLICANT. IT'S A STEEL DOOR. THERE MAYBE SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT MAY ASSIST IN THE CLOSING OF THEM. THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE

APPLICANT. >> REFERRING TO THE PICTURES I TOOK OF THE EXISTING DUMPSTERS THAT ARE THERE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE GATES THERE THAT ARE OPEN THOSE ARE STEEL.

NARROW NOT LIGHT WEIGHT METAL? THOSE ARE HEAVY STEEL? DO THEY HAVE TO BE HEAVY STEEL?

>> LET ME TELL YOU THIS. I DRIVE BY THE LOCATION AND THE MOST NORTHERN DUMPSTER GATE NOT ONLY OPEN, IT'S ON ONE HINGE INSTEAD OF TWO. IT'S LEANING.

IN ORDER FOR THEM TO OPERATE ADEQUATELY AND BE CLOSED, IT WOULD BE PRE-DAMAGED.

JUST FROM EXPERIENCE, I DON'T SEE OTHER THAN A VERY HIGH TENSION SPRING ATTACHMENT TO IT.

I'M SURE THERE ARE METHODS AND WAYS TO HAVE THE DOORS AUTOMATICALLY CLOSE.

IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S OPERATIONAL. I'M SURE THE COMPACTERRER WASTE COMPANY WOULD HAVE INPUT. PERHAPS, FIRST, I THINK IT'S MOSTLY PHYSICAL MAINTENANCE AND THROWING OUT TRASH AND CLOSING THE DOORS LIKE ANYTHING ELSE. THAT'S MY INPUT.

I'M SURE THERE'S A SOLUTION. >> MY LAST COMMENT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE STRUCTURE. HAS TO DO WITH GETTING TO THIS POINT.

IT'S FRUSTRATING TO ME, NUMBER ONE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT MIX IS.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEING ABLE TO SEE IN THE FUTURE. IS THE AMOUNT OF GARBAGE GENERATED A RESULT OF POOR PLANNING OF HAVING THAT MANY ESTABLISHMENTS OR FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS OR WASTE GENERATING ESTABLISHMENTS IN THAT ONE LITTLE THING? I DON'T KNOW. THAT SHOULD BE A LESSON TO REVIEW OR LEARN OR WHATEVER.

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YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE AS MANY PROBLEMS IF THE BOXES AND STUFF WERE ACTUALLY BROKEN DOWN.

BEYOND THIS, I KNOW IT'S A TRASH COMPACTER. IT'S THE RECYCLING THAT I SAW IN MANY PICTURES THAT'S THE ISSUE. NOT JUST THE GARBAGE. IT'S JUST BOXES.

I GREW UP WORKING AS A BAG BOY AND STOCK WORK IN PUBLIC FOR MANY YEARS.

I HAD TO BREAK DOWN THE BOXES WHETHER IT'S A COMPACTER, TRASH OR RECYCLING.

THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE. THE ISSUE IS NOT MAKING BIGGER COMPACTER.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO THROW OUT GARBAGE IN A POOR WAY AND NOT BREAK THEM DOWN, YOU WILL HAVE SIMILAR ISSUE. MY CONCERN HAVING BIGGER MASS OF CRAP.

>> UNDERSTOOD. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT ANSWER.

HOLD ON. >> 442 BY 7 FEET. >> NO, THE ACTUAL DOOR THE

COMPACTER ITSELF. >> YEAH, ON THE SIDE. >> THE PEDESTRIAN DOOR?

>> HE WANTS TO KNOW THE ACTUAL GATE. IF I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO

UNMUTE HER. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME.

>> DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION IN TERMS OF HOW BIG THE DOOR IS. >> I DID.

THIS IS ROBIN WITH COMPLETE SOLUTIONS. >> NOW YOU CAN ANSWER.

>> SORRY. THE OPENING IS 40 BY 40. >> HOW HIGH OFF THE GROUND?

>> 48 INCHES OR 44 DEPENDING ON WHICH ONE WE ARE ORDER. THEY ARE TYPICALLY EITHER 44 INCHES OR 48 INCHES OFF THE GROUND.

>> DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> I'M JUST CURIOUS.

IT'S A GOOD POINT. THE BOXES ARE BIGGER THAN 40 BY 40.

THEY WILL PROBABLY NOT GET BROKEN DOWN. >> CAN I SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE

TO THAT? >> YES. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

RECYCLING, NOT THE TRASH COMPACTER. >> I IMAGINE PEOPLE WILL THROW

BOXES IN THE TRASH COMPACTER. >> IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT SIZE THEY ARE.

AS LONG AS THEY PUT THEM IN THE COMPACTER. THE MACHINE WILL DO ITS JOB.

>> AS LONG AS THEY ARE SMALLER 40 BY 40? >> IF THEY ARE 60 BY 60 THEY HAVE TO BREAK THEM IN HALF. THE PORTER WILL HAVE TO PUT THEM IN.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT BIG SCREEN TVS IN THIS CENTER. WE'RE LOOKING MOSTLY FOOD WASTE.

THE BOXES WILL TYPICALLY SMALLER. >> THANK YOU.

>> I'M GOING OOPEN THE MEETING AGENDA ITEM UP FROM THE PUBLIC IF ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE AGENDA ITEM. SEEING NONE.

ANY E-MAILS OR OTHER INQUIRIES? THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER.

COME ON UP, SIR. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

WELCOME. >> RELATIVELY FRIENDLY BUNCH HERE.

>> MY NAME IS ADAM KAPLAN. I AM THE OWNER OF PARKLAND BAGELS AND DELI.

MY ONLY CONCERN AS A TENANT THERE, I BEEN THERE FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, IF THIS COMPACTER THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING IN IN THERE TO SOLVE THE GARBAGE PROBLEM, IF IT DOESN'T WORK, THAT'S MY QUESTION, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? IS THERE A WAY EACH -- IS THERE

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TENANTS WITH THE GARBAGE. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. WE DON'T HAVE AN INTERACTION.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- WE DO, WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMETHING DOESN'T WORK. THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, WHOLE PROJECTS ARE PRESENTED, APPROVED, CONSTRUCTED AND SOMETIMES WE GO BACK AND HAVE TO ADJUST OR MODIFY CERTAIN ASPECTS. GIVEN THE PROFESSIONALS INVOLVED, I THINK LEAVING IT ALONE ISN'T GOING TO BE A RESOLUTION.

AS ADVISORY BOARD, WE'RE HERE TO ADDRESS WHAT'S PRESENTED BEFORE US.

MY INPUT WITH RESPECT TO THAT IS THIS LOCATION IS CAUSING THE INSTALLATION SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF FUNDS MOVING WATER METERS AND BACK FILL PREVENTERS THAT WEREN'T PART OF THE SCOPE OF WORK PREVIOUSLY. EVERYBODY TRYING OPUT THEIR BEST FOOT FORWARD TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH A RESOLUTION. NOBODY YET THIS MOMENT KNOWS. EVERYBODY WILL HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND CONCERNS AND A LOT OF EXPERTS OR PROFESSIONALS GOING INTO THE RESOLUTION AND REPAIR WHAT IS AN EXAMINE EXISTING DAILY ONGOING ISSUE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST TO

EVALUATE AND APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE THE APPLICANTS >> THE CITY WOULD NOT BE ENFORCING THE APPLICANT TO DO ANOTHER CHANGE. IT WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM THE OWNER. CERTAINLY, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE ENGAGED IN ENFORCING THE CODE AND PERHAPS AFTER ALL OF THAT WOULD MOTIVATE THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK AND SAY WE NEED MAKE ANOTHER CHANGE. THAT'S KIND OF THE PLAY FORWARD ON THAT.

I WAS CONCERNED AS YOU. WE'RE KIND OF GUESSING. WE'RE ALL HOPE THAT IT WORKS.

YOU HEARD THIS AND THEY TRYING SOMETHING. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.

A LOT OF QUESTIONS ALL WHERE TO PUT IT. THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT HASN'T GONE INTO TONIGHT. THEY TRIED ALL SORTERS OF PLACES.

THIS SEEMS LIKE TO BE THE BEST PLACE. I'M KIND OF LISTENING LIKE YOU TRYING TO SAY, I THINK THIS WILL WORK. LET'S TRY SOMETHING.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT. WHAT YOU SAY HERE MATTERS TO ME AND I CAN TAKE A BIG GUESS THAT IT MATTERS TO THE PEOPLE UP HERE AS WELL.

>> ALEX? >> MR. KAPLAN, YOU MENTIONED THE TENANTS ARE THEIR OWN GARBAGE DUMPSTERS. CURRENTLY THE WAY THAT IT IS NOW.

THE PICTURES THAT WE HAVE LOOKS LIKE IT'S NICE AND CLEAN. IS THERE ONE SPECIFIC TENANT

THAT IS CONTRIBUTING TO MORE GARBAGE THAN THE OTHER TENANTS? >> PERFECT EXAMPLE.

THIS MORNING, I'M COMING TO WORK. I COME IN AT A 5:30.

THE DUMPSTER BEHIND MY BACKDOOR, THERE'S SIX BAGS ON THE FLOOR. THEY ARE FROM STARBUCKS.

YOU HAVE YOUNG KIDS AT STARBUCKS. MAYBE THE MAIN DUMPSTER WAS FULL. THEY'LL THROW IT ON THE FLOOR. THIS IS AN AN GOING THING.

I COME IN, THIS IS 5:30 IN THE MORNING. THIS IS WHAT I SEE.

THE OTHER THING THE OTHER DAY, IT WAS A WINDY DAY, THERE WERE BOXES THAT FLEW.

I TRIED PICKING SOME UP. >> DO MOST OF THESE PLACES, STARBUCKS AND THE OTHER TENANTS CONTRIBUTE MORE? WOULD THEY NEED TO BE PICKED UP MORE? IS THAT WE'RE PUTTING A BIGGER COMPACT. IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A BIGGER SPACE, EVEN WITH THIS OVERFLOW THAT THEY HAVE, WOULD THAT SATISFY ALL THE NEEDS WITH

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>> DUMPSTERS STILL HAVE ROOM IN THERE. >> THEY DIDN'T PUT THEM IN?

>> BAGS ARE SITTING IN FRONT OF THE DUMPSTER. >> EVEN IF WE HAVE THIS

COMPACTER HERE, WILL THEY PUT THE GARBAGE IN THERE? >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE

GOING TO DO. >> THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION NOT FOR HIM BUT FOR THE APPLICANT.

IT'S NOT A QUESTION.

WE'RE DISCUSSING WHETHER WE SHOULD PUT A COMPACTER HERE. >> IS IT COMMON AREA THE PROPERTY -- EACH TENANT HAS A RESPONSIBILITY AND THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS A PORTION OF THE

RESPONSIBILITY TO SEE CAITLIN WANTS TO PROVIDE INPUT. >> I THINK WE'VE LANDED A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE OPERATIONAL ISSUES. WHICH CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL CONTINUE TO BE OUT AT THE SITE ISSUING CITATIONS. I'M SURE THEY'RE NOT HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. THEY CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO RECTIFY THE CODE VIOLATIONS.

CODE CONTINUE TO GO OUT THERE IF IT STAYS AN ISSUE THEY WILL CONTINUE TO GET CITATIONS.

OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT. WE DON'T WANT. HOPEFULLY, THIS IS A SOLUTION THAT EVERYONE WILL LEARN TO UTILIZE THE CORRECT WAY AND AVOID THE CITATION.

THEY WILL BE CITED. >> PERHAPS, THERE WOULD BE A NEED BASED ON THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE HEARING FOR ADDITIONAL THINGS FOR ASSISTING A PROCESS SUCH AS CAMERAS.

BE ABLE TO KNOW CERTAIN ETIQUETTE SUPPOSED TO BE FOLLOWED.

>> IT MIGHT BE A TIMING ISSUE. MAYBE THE CITATIONS ARE THERE WHEN TRASH IS THERE.

THE CITY PUTS PRESSURE ON THEM. >> WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS CONCENTRATE ON THE APPLICANT APPLICATION BEFORE US AND PROVIDE THE INPUT THAT WE'RE PROVIDING IS THAT THE COMMISSION CAN ALSO TAKE AND ADDRESS THE CONCERNS WE HAD WHICH IS WHAT OUR DUTY IS ADVISORY BOARD.

HOPEFULLY FROM OUR MEETING TONIGHT. IF THE MOTION PASSES OR NOT.

THEY'LL TAKE AND BE ABLE TO HAVE A BETTER END RESULT FROM ALL OF THE COMMENTS.

>> MR. CHAIR, I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW BASED ON UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S COMMUNAL DUMPSTERS. IS THERE NOT THE ABILITY OR HAVE WE EXPLORED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EACH UNIT TO HAVE THEIR OWN DUMPSTER?

IS THAT POSSIBLE? >> THAT WILL BE SOMETHING FOR APPLICANT PROFFER.

THEY PROPOSED SOMETHING THAT'S MORE CONSOLIDATED FROM A SPACE EFFICIENCY PERSPECTIVE.

FROM AN OPERATION PERSPECTIVE, THEY'VE NOT EXPLORED THAT BECAUSE MOST LIKELY EFFICIENCY.

OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S FIVE OR MORE TENANTS IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER CURRENTLY THAT WOULD STACK UP KIND OF ALL THE WAY ACROSS THAT REAR SERVICE ALLEY. THERE'S DOORS THAT YOU HAVE TO BATTLE WITH. I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN FIT THEM ALL IN THAT CURRENT REAR ALLEY.

YOU WILL BE SCATTERING THEM ALL OVER THE PROPERTY. SHORT ANSWER IS NO.

>> TO MY POINT, BEFORE WE BUILD A HUGE STRUCTURE, PERMANENT STRUCTURE VERSUS SOMETHING ON WHEELS. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DIDN'T EXPLORE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SECONDLY, I JUST HAVE -- I'M RAE STRUGGLING WITH THE FACT THAT THIS PICTURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT WAS PROVIDED, I DON'T SEE TRASH. I WENT BY YESTERDAY.

THERE WAS ONE PIECE OF TRASH ON THE STREET. EVERY DUMPSTER WAS CLEAR.

YOU GETTING DUMPSTERS EMPTIED EVERYDAY. THIS TELLS ME IT CAN BE DONE.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S LACK OF TRAINING, LACK OF DESIRE AND IGNORANCE ON MAKING SURE BOXES ARE BROKEN DOWN AND TRASH IS PUT IN DUMPSTER. I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH SAYING YES, LET'S BUILD THIS BIG 9-FOOT STRUCTURE WHERE BAGS MAY BE JUST ON THE FLOOR ANYWAY.

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I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS PROCESS AND WHERE WE ARE. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND, I'M PRO BUSINESS. I WANT YOU GUYS TO DO GREAT. I'M JUST NOT SEEING THAT THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO A REAL ISSUE. THE SYMPTOM. I DON'T KNOW IF SYMPTOM THAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING IS THIS IS THE RESOLUTION FOR THAT SYMPTOM. I THINK IT'S LACK OF EDUCATION.

I THINK IT'S A LACK OF DESIRE AND DOING THE RIGHT THING. IF WE HAVEN'T EXPLORED THE OPPORTUNITY HAVING ANOTHER DUMPSTER OR EACH UNIT -- I HAVE TRASH CAN.

I CAN'T JUST THROW MY CRAP ON THE STREET. I'LL GET A TICKET OR CITATION.

I'M VERY -- I KNOW WE'VE TALKED THIS A WHILE. MAYBE I WASN'T EDUCATED AT THE TIME. THIS IS WHY I TOOK PICTURES. IF I CAN GO ANY RANDOM TIME AND SEE NO GARBAGE ON THE FLOOR, THE DUMPSTERS LOOK FINE EXCEPT EVERY GATE WAS OPEN.

I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THE SOLUTION TO SYMPTOMS THAT MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT SOLUTION FOR

THE PROBLEM. >> WHEN YOU HAVE MORE PICUPS BY THE GARBAGE COMPANY.

WHICH IS CREATING MORE OF A FEE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO THEN IS PASSING IT ON TO THE TENANTS.

THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY ALL THESE PICK-UPS WERE HAPPENING.

IT'S COSTING TOO MUCH MONEY. THEN THEY ARE REDUCING PICK-UPS. WITH ALL THE PICK-UPS, THERE WAS

NO ISSUE. THEY WERE EMPTY. >> IS IT OKAY IF I SPEAK AGAIN?

THIS IS ROBIN HARDER. >> YES. >> I COULD ADDRESS.

BEFORE WE EVEN WENT DOWN THE ROAD OF THE COMPACTER, WE LOOKED A THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF SERVICE THAT COULD BE PROVIDED THERE AND ENCLOSURES THAT ARE THERE. THERE'S MULTIPLE PROBLEMS PROBABLY WHEN YOU WENT TOOK PICTURES OF AFTER THE DUMPSTERS HAVE BEEN DUMPED.

IT DIDN'T HAVE LIKE THE NIGHT TRASH IN THEM AND THE DAY TRASH. THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THEY LOOKED GOOD AND THE PORTER WAS THERE. I'M SPECULATING. I DOE KNOW THAT THERE'S AN OVERAGE PROBLEM. DUMPSTER HAVE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF SERVICE THAT THE THANK YOUER- HAULER PROVIDES. IN ADDITION, THEY CHARGE AN EXCESS CHARGE AND OVERAGE CHARGE. THAT IS VERY EXPENSIVE AND THAT IS -- THAT COST SO PASSED ON TO THE TENANTS. WHERE THE COMPACTER WILL ACTUALLY MAY REDUCE THE COST OF THE TENANT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THOSE OVERAGE CHARGES.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS TRUCK TRIPS BACK THERE WHICH IS BETTER AND SAFER.

THOSE GATES WON'T ALWAYS BE OPEN BECAUSE ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE GONE.

THE OTHER GATES ARE GOING TO BE LOCKED AND AS FAR AS INDIVIDUAL DUMPSTERS, THERE'S NOT ROOM FOR THAT. THAT WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE THE SITUATION WORSE.

YOU CAN GO BEHIND SOME SHOPPING CENTERS WHERE EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN DUMPSTER.

THERE'S DUMPSTERS EVERYWHERE RANDOMLY PLACED AND TRASH ALL OVER THE PLACE.

WE TRYING TO MAKE A CLEANER, SAFER, SYSTEM. IT ACTUALLY IS THE GOLD STANDARD IN THE WASTE INDUSTRY. WE DO THESE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AT HIGH-END CENTERS.

THE LAST THING I'LL SAY, WHEN THIS SHOPPING CENTER WAS BUILT, THERE WAS NOT RESTAURANTS IN EVERY SPACE. YOU HAD A HALLMARK STORE. YOU MAYBE LIKE A BARBER, MAYBE YOU HAD LIKE A PIZZA TAKEOUT. NOW YOU HAVE RESTAURANTS IN EVERY SPACE.

THE CENTER IS MAKING MORE TRASH THAN IT WAS EVER BUILT TO MAKE. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO INCREASE

THE CAPACITY THERE. >> THANK YOU, ROBIN. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS A CONTRACTED PROPERTY MANAGEMENT GROUP RESPONSIBLE IT MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY. ON TOP OF THAT, THE OWNER HAS CONTRACTED A TRASH HAULER?

>> YES. >> THAT TRASH HAULER WILL HAVE A CONTRACT FOR THIS SPECIFIC TRASH COMPACTER THAT'S INCREASING CAPACITY BY FACTOR OF THREE FROM WHAT IT IS CURRENTLY.

IT'S A SELF-CONTAINED WET SYSTEM THAT IS NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A DRAIN LINE?

>> YES. >> IN ADDITION, BASED ON THE CAPACITY, INCREASE OF THAT FACTOR OF THREE, YOU'RE TAKING THE SERVICE THAT BASICALLY TWICE A DAY ON AVERAGE AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE REDUCING IT TO ONCE A DAY IF IT WAS TO COME MONDAY OR SUNDAY?

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>> ONCE A WEEK. YES. >> ONCE A WEEK, OKAY.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, CAITLIN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING HERE IS PURAL OPERATIONAL DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE BEING HAD THAT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND HOW THEY ARE POLICING THEIR TENANTS BUT TO SEE THE WAY THEY DO THE

VIOLATION THEY HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I'LL JUST ADD. BETWEEN NOW AND GOING TO COMMISSION, I WILL TALK WITH PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. THEY HAVE LEASES WITH ALL OF THESE TENANTS.

I NEED TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO SEE WHAT KIND OF STRENGTHENING MECHANISMS WE CAN HAVE OR ADDITIONAL MANAGEMENT SAFEGUARDS THE PORTER FOR CERTAIN THINGS. I HEAR THE CONCERNS WITH MANAGEMENT. I'M GOING TO SPEAK WITH MANAGEMENT BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COMMISSION AND HOPEFULLY HAVE A STRENGTHENED PLAN IN PLACE. THEY NOW HAVE A NEW PROPERTY MANAGER FOR SITE WHO IS UP TO SPEED WITH THE ISSUE AND MOTIVATED TO GET THIS UNDER CONTROL. WE DID HAVE A LOT TURNOVER IN THE PAST TO MAKE IT HARDER TO GET THINGS ACCOMPLISHED. I HEAR THAT. ALSO ONE THING WITH THE HENGE, I

WILL TELL THEM THAT HINGE IS BROKEN AND GET THAT FIXED. >> REACH OUT TO PEOPLE LIKE MR. KAPLAN AS WELL AS BUSINESS OWNER FOR INSIGHT. THAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH WILL GO&

LONG WAY. >> THANK YOU. >> JUST A COUPLE MORE.

WITH RESPECT TO THE OUGHTER TO TURN -- AUTO TURN ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE.

FIRE DEPARTMENT REVIEWED IT. IT'S ACCESSING THE SOUTH OFF HILLSBORO, IT'S PROBABLY A DOWN TIME OF APPROXIMATELY 10 MINUTES BECAUSE IT'S 38-INCH STANDARD ROLLOUTOFF.

THEY OPEN THE DOUBLE DOORS. THEY TAKE THE FLAT BED, PULL OUT THE DUMPSTER, GO OFF SITE GET OFF 441 AND EXIT. THEY COME BACK IN, THEY DO THE SAME PROCESS AND DROPPING OFF THE NEW ONE. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH RESPECT TO SITE TRIANGLES AND ACCESS TO

THE PROPERTY, THEY OKAYED THE DESIGN? >> YES.

>> THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK WAS YOUR TRASH CONSULTANT SAID THE TRASH COMPACTER SIZE DOOR IS 40 BY 40. A STANDARD PALETTE IS A 48 BY 48.

JUST TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE. JUST CLARIFICATION, WHEN SOMEONE COMING TO DUMP THE TRASH, THE SIZE OF THE DOOR ALMOST SIZE OF FULL SIZE PALETTE. WHICH IS YOU'RE NOT THROWING A PALETTE INTO A TRASH COMPACTER. HARD BOARD BE INTENT FOR RECYCLING IS TO HAVE THAT NORTH TRASH ENCLOSURE THAT WHICH HAS TWO FOUR CUBIC YARDS. THAT'S BASICALLY PLASTIC, PAPER AND GRASS. ONLY OTHER COMMENT I'LL MAKE JUST FROM PAST EXPERIENCE, WE HAVE PUT THESE SPECIFIC SPECIFIED ENCLOSED COMPACTER IN MUCH LARGER.

>> THANK YOU. >> I'M JUST CURIOUS. WHAT IS THE APPROXIMATE COST OF THE CITY OWNER? THE COMPACTER, THE LANDSCAPING, EVERYTHING?

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? >> I DON'T. I CAN FIND OUT.

>> I THINK IT'S ALMOST LIKE EVERYONE GOT TO BE DOING THEIR PART.

THE LANDLORD DOING THEIR PART BY COMING UP WITH A SOLUTION. THEY'RE GOING TO EDUCATE THE TENANTS WHICH IS REQUIRED. THE TENANTS WANT TO MAKE IT SO DO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO 5:30 IN THE MORNING PICKING UP OTHER PEOPLE TRASH. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THE WAY IT IS THE WAY THAT SHOPPING CENTER LOOKS TO THE PUBLIC.

EVERYONE COMPLYING WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. IF NOT, ALL OF THIS WILL PASS ON TO THE TIN THANS THAT NOBODY WANTS. WITH THE PROPER EDUCATION AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S REQUIRED FROM THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY, DOWN TO THE TENANT AND EVERYBODY ELSE. PROBABLY CAN BE DONE. EVERYONE HAS TO PUT IN LITTLE

BIT OF EFFORT. >> WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS TRYING TO FIND THE BEST LAYOUT.

THEY ARE MOTIVATED TO TRY TO MAKE THIS PROBLEM BETTER. >> YES, SIR.

DO YOU HAVE QUESTION? ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION ON THIS AGENDA ITEM?

>> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> MOTIONED BY DEREK SECONDED BY FABIO. CALL FOR THE VOTE PLEASE.

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>> MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ITEM 9.

[9. Comments from the Planning Director]

>> THANK YOU FOR THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT. WE'LL BE BACK IN MARCH.

WITH A COUPLE OF ORDINANCES FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER AND I DO BELIEVE WE'LL BE KEEPING YOU BUSY IN APRIL AND PROBABLY THROUGH THE SUMMER. I HOPE YOU ENJOYED YOUR FALL AND WINTER RECESS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU BACK HERE FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT A

COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK-TO-BACK. >> I HAVE MORE COMMENTS. THIS COMING APRIL WILL BE OUR LOVELY DEDICATED DIRECTOR RETIREMENT. OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE HER

LAST MEETING. >> AGAIN? FOR REAL THIS TIME?

>> I DID DIDN'T RETIRE. I QUIT.

>> WOW. >> WE WANT OWISH HER WELL. WE'LL ALL BE HERE.

>> PARTY HATS FOR THE MEETING? >> I'LL BE HERE FOR NEXT MEETING.

IT'S APRIL 2ND. I PUT ANY 14 YEARS IN. I'M READY TO GO.

>> CONGRATULATIONS. >> WAS THE ONLY MEETING THE CITY ATTORNEY DID NOT SPEAK?

FOR THE RECORD. >> I FILED AN APPEALED ON HER RETIREMENT.

SHE DOESN'T KNOW THAT YET. IT'S PENDING. >> IT WASN'T AN EASY TASK.

WE DID DO THAT, ANTHONY. >> EXCELLENT. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

[10. Comments from the Board]

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? >> JUST FOR THE RECORD, IT WAS LOVELY WORKING WITH YOU.

I WILL NOT BE HERE NEXT MEETING. I'LL BE OUT OF THE COUNTRY. WHICH I THINK IS MARCH 12TH OR

SOMETHING. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN?

>> ALL IN FAV

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.