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I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP MEETING TO ORDER.
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ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 22ND, 2025 AT 5 P.M.. I DON'T KNOW IF I STILL GOT IT RIGHT, BUT SECOND.SECONDED. PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ROLL CALL, COMMISSIONER BRYER. HERE, VICE MAYOR ISRAEL.
HERE, COMMISSIONER MURPHY. HERE, COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN HERE.
MAYOR WALKER TAKES A SECOND TO IT. TAKES A SECOND.
RELAX. I'M HERE ALSO. THANK YOU. OKAY. REGULAR AGENDA.
TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX WRAPS. OKAY. CAN YOU SAY THAT FIVE TIMES FAST, PLEASE?
[4.A. Traffic Signal Box Wraps]
OH, SOUNDS LIKE WE SHOULD BE WRAPPING. JACKIE'S BACK THERE, SO.SOUNDS LIKE SHE'S IN CHARGE. YEAH. WELL. GOOD EVENING.
SHE'S GOT TO DO THE SCHOOL. YEAH. I'M ALWAYS HAVING FUN.
SO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOXES ARE THOSE BIG METAL BOXES THAT YOU SEE SOMEWHERE NEAR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT YOU'LL NOTICE IN SOME COMMUNITIES, LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS. SO IF YOU RECALL, AT OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION, WE TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC ART IN GENERAL AND WHAT THE COMMISSION HAD COME TO A DECISION IS TO DO PUBLIC ART IN A MORE NATURAL AND HOLISTIC WAY INSTEAD OF HAVING A VERY STRICT POLICY.
WHY DON'T WE TAKE SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT COME TO THE CITY AND AND DO PUBLIC ART THAT WAY? SO VILLAGE IN THE PARK, FOR EXAMPLE, IS GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE COMING UP TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT'S VERY PARKLAND LIKE.
AND, AND FOR US TO HAVE SOME SAY IN THOSE TYPES OF WAYS OF HOW THINGS LOOK.
SO THE APPROACH IS GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT, AGAIN, EVERYTHING'S PARKLAND LIKE, AND IT'S NOT FORCED.
AND IT'S IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE PROCESS. TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX WRAPS, AS YOU'VE SEEN IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, ARE UNIQUELY DESIGNED ARTWORK THAT CAPTURES CULTURAL, HISTORIC, ARTISTIC, ARCHITECTURAL AND NATURAL THEMES OF THAT COMMUNITY'S AREA. SO HERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE HERE IN PARKLAND.
WELL, THAT ONE WE GOT TO BE VERY CAREFUL FROM.
WE PROBABLY GOT TO GET PERMISSION FROM RON BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING.
YEAH. YEAH. WE'VE GOT FOUR OWNED THE BROWARD COUNTY AND FOUR OWNED BY THE CITY.
SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONSIDER THAT ONE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE SEVEN REMAINING, WHICH WE CAN INCORPORATE INTO ONE PROJECT WITH THE COUNTY.
AND IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING, THIS IS A MAP OF THOSE LOCATIONS.
THE FIRST ART PROJECT WAS INITIATED BY THE FORT LAUDERDALE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, AND THEIR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DIVISION BEGAN THE PROGRAM BY JUST DOING A SIX MONTH TEST CASE, AND FOUND THAT THERE WERE NO ADVERSE IMPACTS IN ADDING THE ART TO A TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX AND TO THE CONTROLLERS THEMSELVES.
AND THE FIRST SET WAS 15 AND IT WAS IN THE DOWNTOWN FORT LAUDERDALE AREA.
SO THE COUNTY'S PROGRAM, YOU MUST BE A MUNICIPALITY OR AN AGENCY WHERE THE ARTWORK IS INTENDED TO BE ILLUSTRATIVE OF A CULTURAL, HISTORIC, ARTISTIC, ARCHITECTURAL OR NATURAL THEME OF YOUR AREA.
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ALCOHOL, AND IT ALSO CANNOT BE OF ANY TYPE OF ADVERTISING THERE GOES A REVENUE STREAM.SO THE PROCESS IS ACTUALLY PRETTY SIMPLE. IT'S MADE THROUGH A GENERAL ENGINEERING PERMIT, AND WE NEED TO INCLUDE WITH THAT PERMIT A LOCATION MAP AND A SET OF RENDERINGS OF THE ART THAT WE WISH TO PLACE ON THE BOXES. THE ENTIRE SET OF SIGNAL BOXES CAN ACTUALLY BE SUBMITTED AS ONE PROJECT, WITH JUST ONE FEE OF $120. SO, SO FAR WE'VE GOT THIS.
SO THERE IS SOME ONGOING RESPONSIBILITY WITH THE WITH THE WRAPS.
SO IF THE TRAFFIC CONTROL BOX IS DAMAGED IN ANY WAY, A CAR RUNS INTO IT.
THEY'LL REPLACE THE BOX, BUT WE NEED TO REPLACE THE ART.
SAME THING IF THEY MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE BOXES.
IF THEY COME UP WITH SMALLER ONES, BIGGER ONES? THEY HAVE A MAST ARM CONVERSION. THEY AGAIN WILL CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE ACTUAL BOX, BUT WE WOULD NEED TO REPLACE THE OUTER WRAP.
IF WE TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE UP THE ART OOP $120 FEE.
SO ALTHOUGH WE WOULD NEED TO GET THREE QUOTES PER OUR PROCUREMENT CODE WE GOT THIS ESTIMATE AND THE ESTIMATE IS $1,550 PER BOX FOR A TOTAL OF ABOUT $11,000. THAT INCLUDES CLEANING OF THE THE BOXES AND PREP WORK, AND ACTUALLY INSTALLING THE WRAPS. BESIDES JUST THE COST OF THE WRAP ITSELF.
AND THESE PROBABLY ONLY LAST TWO, MAYBE THREE YEARS MAX WOULD BE MY GUESS.
MAY I KIND OF JUST ASK A QUESTION? OF COURSE.
SO THE THE RESTRICTION, OBVIOUSLY, I SAID NO PRIVATE SOMETHING.
DOES THAT PREVENT LET'S SAY WE WANT TO DO A CONTEST, RIGHT.
AND YOU HAVE, LET'S SAY ALL THE KIDS IN SCHOOL COULD SUBMIT OR WHATEVER, OR YOU CAN EVEN HAVE IF SOMEONE WANTED TO DO AN AUCTION AND RAISE ENOUGH MONEY WHERE THEY GET TO PICK THE DESIGNS, COULD WE CREATE LIMITATIONS AND CRITERIA THAT FIT WITHIN THE COUNTY? OF COURSE, OF COURSE. TO YOUR POINT, I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING.
LIKE AS LONG AS WE CAN SOMEWHAT KEEP GUARDRAILS UP, I WOULD LOVE TO FIND WAYS TO HAVE BEAUTIFUL ART AND MAKE MONEY, WHICH I THINK PEOPLE WOULD STILL BE INTERESTED IN.
HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING I WOULD PUT UP THERE. OR, YOU KNOW, IN A SIMILAR VEIN, I WAS THINKING OF IT MORE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF LIKE ADOPTING SIMILAR LIKE ADOPTING A ROAD. AND WHILE YOU CAN'T USE THE TRAFFIC BOXES LIKE AN ADVERTISEMENT, COULD YOU DO LIKE A SIGN OR PLAQUE SOMEWHERE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY AND MAINTAINED BY X? RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE OUR SIGNAGE. SO ACTUALLY WE'VE GOT SOME SOME THOUGHTS ON WHAT WE WOULD PLACE ON THE BOX IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE AS WELL.
SO THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME PHOTOS.
SO FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX WRAP SOME EXAMPLES AND SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES OF WHAT THOSE WRAPS WOULD LOOK LIKE, INCLUDING A GARGOYLE. YES. SO WHAT WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING IS TO UTILIZE SOME PHOTO ART, BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE'D KIND OF LIKE THIS TO BE PARKLAND LIKE AND BLEND WITH THE NATURAL, HISTORIC ELEMENTS OF THE CITY.
SO. I'LL JUST BREEZE THROUGH THESE A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'VE GOTTEN SOME VERY GOOD NATURAL PHOTOS OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE NEED TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE DUCKS TO USE THEIR LIKENESS.
THEY'VE ALREADY PROVIDED SUCH PERMISSION. YES.
IT'S A TOUGH NEGOTIATION, BUT I WORKED OUT A LICENSE.
THERE'S A BIG FLAP, BUT NOTHING TOO BIG. I'M NOT GOING TO LET THAT GO.
I HEARD THAT. THAT HORSE SHOULD NOT BE RIDING ON THE EASEMENT THERE.
HE WENT AROUND A BICYCLIST. IT'S OKAY. OKAY. SO AGAIN, THESE PHOTOS ARE EXAMPLES OF OUR COMMUNITY, THE NATURAL THEME OF OUR AREA. AND WE FEEL THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS ON A WRAP WOULD BE THOUGHTFUL IN OUR COMMUNITY AND VERY PARKLAND LIKE, AND STILL PROVIDE THAT COUNTRY ELEGANCE THAT WE'RE USED TO.
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IT'S TIME FOR DISCUSSION. YES. SO THE EXAMPLES YOU GAVE WERE ALL PHOTOGRAPHS? YES. THE EXAMPLES FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES WERE ALL SORT OF PAINTED, ANIMATED, SOME KIND OF ARTWORK.THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT ARTISTIC, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE IT'S A PHOTOGRAPH, YOU COULD SOLVE A PAINTING THAT IS SOMEWHAT PARKLAND ESQUE, BUT IT'S STILL ARTWORK. RIGHT. BUT WE WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE AS, AS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE'D RECOMMEND. I ALWAYS LOVE NATURE.
I THINK MY WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT PUBLIC ART.
TO ME, PUBLIC ART BRINGS KIND OF A VIBRANCE, LIKE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE NORMAL SURROUNDING, AND THAT'S WHAT CALLS IT OUT. SO IF YOU MY CONCERN IS IF YOU PUT A PHOTO OF NATURE ON SOMETHING THAT'S SURROUNDED BY NATURE, IS IT REALLY ART OR JUST KIND OF CAMOUFLAGED INTO ITS SURROUNDINGS? RIGHT. YOU JUST HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THE ART WE USE IN OUR COMMUNITY. NOT HAPPY WITH THE ART THAT WE CHOOSE, BUT THAT'S ART. LIKE I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK I THINK I'M JUST THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE POINT THAT'S BROUGHT UP.
THERE. THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE IT.
MANY OTHER CITIES AND STATES AND COUNTIES HAVE MANAGED TO PUT ART IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
YEAH. GOING BACK WHEN I WAS ON THE THE BOARD OF THE CORAL SPRINGS MUSEUM OF ART WAS FUNDED BY AND GOVERNED BY THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS. AND WHEN I WAS ON THAT BOARD, WE STARTED AN ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, AND THEY STARTED RAISING MONEY FOR THAT AND STARTED TO PUT ART AROUND THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS AT THE TIME. AND, AND IT WAS YOU WOULD SELECT A PIECE OF ART THAT WAS DONE BY A SEPARATE COMMITTEE, NOT FROM THE BOARD, BUT IT WAS COMPRISED OF SOME BOARD MEMBERS AND THEN CITY FOLKS.
AND THERE WAS PUSHBACK ON THEIR INTERPRETATION OF WHAT ART WAS, APPROPRIATE OR NOT.
I DO THINK THAT IF WE WERE TO STICK WITH SOME SORT OF THEMATIC APPROACH, LIKE A NATURE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT ALLOW BUT ALLOW SOME SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE.
CORRECT? CORRECT. BUT ALLOW SOME ARTISTIC INTERPRETATION OF IT, LIKE A LIKE AN OIL PAINTING VERSION IN A IN AN ART RAP OF NATURE, THERE'S A WAY TO BOTH HAVE THE ARTISTIC EXPRESSION AND ALSO CONFINE IT TO, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S MORE UNIFORM, BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE EIGHT DIFFERENT WORKS OF ART THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE NO SEMBLANCE OF ANY CORRELATION TO EACH OTHER.
I THINK THAT ACTUALLY IS PROBABLY A BETTER WAY TO LOOK AT IT IS, RATHER THAN EACH ONE BEING INDIVIDUALIZED, WE CAN HAVE THEMES OVER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. RIGHT? WELL, RIGHT. BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND WE'D HAVE TO DO THIS EVERY TWO YEARS. SO.
AND DOING IT EASY THE FIRST TIME WOULD MAKE THE SECOND TIME.
MAYBE WE'D GET A LITTLE MORE BOLD, RIGHT? I THINK IT MIGHT BE TOO LONG OF A WINDOW, BECAUSE, AGAIN, I THINK YOU COULD FIND. WELL, I'M JUST SAYING HOW LONG THE MATERIAL WILL LAST.
I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY AGAIN, ESPECIALLY FOR KIDS.
I THINK I COULD SEE SO MANY BECAUSE IT'S RAP. YOU CAN LITERALLY TAKE SOMEONE'S DRAWING AND DIGITIZE IT AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAKE A RAP. I THINK IT'D BE SO COOL TO START HAVING LIKE A COMPETITION OR EVEN IF WE STARTED DOING IT FOR PARK ONE DAY.
RIGHT? YOU CAN START PEOPLE HAVING OBVIOUSLY THEY SUBMIT THEMES OR THE T SHIRT.
SUBMIT A BOX. IDEAS, DESIGN IDEAS. RIGHT? I SEE IT AS YOU KNOW, LET'S IF WE DECIDE TO START WITH THESE EIGHT, START WITH THESE EIGHT, WE MAY BE ABLE TO EXPAND IT TO OTHER AREAS, WHETHER IT'S GARBAGE CANS, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS IN OTHER CITIES. I WAS JUST IN BANNER ELK, NORTH CAROLINA, AND THEY HAVE THEY PUT OUT IN THE DRY SEASON.
THEY PUT OUT PIANOS THAT ARE ALL PAINTED, HAND-PAINTED.
THEY PUT OUT 3 OR 4 THROUGHOUT THE MAIN DOWNTOWN AREA, THESE GORGEOUS LIKE BABY GRAND PIANOS, BUT THEY'RE ALL HAND-PAINTED THAT SERVE AS BOTH ART. AND THEN PEOPLE GO UP AND JUST START PLAYING. AND SO THERE'S ALWAYS KIND OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO. BUT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD SOFT INTRODUCTION OF ART INTO THE CITY. CRAWL BEFORE WE WALK.
YEAH. ARE WE STILL ON A IT'S A SEPARATE TOPIC, BUT IT HAS THE IMPLICATION OF ART IN IT.
I KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT REDOING THE PROJECT OF THE OVERPASSES WITH SOME LANDSCAPING AND, BUT THAT IS ANOTHER WAY WHERE WE COULD INCORPORATE SOME ART INTO THAT AS WELL.
FOR THE SAWGRASS, I THINK WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE NOT JUST US MAKING THAT DECISION.
RIGHT. CORAL SPRINGS. WELL, BUT THERE'S TWO SIDES. THERE'S TWO SIDES. YOU COULD DO THE SIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ENTER INTO CORAL SPRINGS AND YOU ENTER INTO PARKLAND. SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR BOTH. YEAH. SO I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS MAYBE THIS FIRST ROUND, WE KEEP IT A LITTLE MORE SIMPLE. PARKLAND THEME WITH SOME NATURE SCENES IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT.
AND THEN MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE START AND WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS.
STRATEGIC PLANNING OR EVEN MORE SPECIFIC THAN NATURE IS GOING BACK TO OR OUR ROOTS.
IT COULD BE A NATURE. IT COULD BE, OH, LIKE HORSES, LIKE THE COVERED BRIDGE WOULD BE NICE.
YEAH. LIKE AN ARTISTIC INTERPRETATION OF THAT WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL.
BUT. YEAH. BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF TO TO VICE MAYOR'S POINT.
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I LIKE THE IDEA OF FIGURING OUT SOME WAY. AND IT'S NOT TRYING TO CIRCUMVENT THE ADVERTISING, BUT SOME WAY TO PROMOTE LIKE AN ADOPTION OF IT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'LL GET PEOPLE ENGAGED AND ENCOURAGED TO GO OUT.AND IF IT'S IF IT'S $2,500 OR WHATEVER THE COST IS FOR THAT ONE.
IF THEY CAN GO OUT AND AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, A SIGN SOMEWHERE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO SAY, THIS ROAD IS ADOPTED BY THE BOYS AND GIRL SCOUTS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, YOU CAN HAVE THAT DONE BY A GROUP, AND THEN THEY CAN ALSO MAKE THE SUBMISSION FOR THE ARTWORK.
YEAH. I ALSO THINK THERE'S SOME OWNERSHIP THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, IT'S NOT SOLELY UP TO US BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BUT MAYBE THIS IS MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD PASS ON TO DO.
WE WANT TO PASS THIS ON TO A BOARD OR DO WE WANT TO.
IS THAT TOO MUCH? BECAUSE I DON'T WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TO. PARKS AND REC OR OUR DIRECTION AND AND I THINK WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND KIND OF CREATE A PLAN BASED ON THAT DIRECTION. I MEAN, WE CAN ALWAYS BRING IT BACK TO YOU, WHETHER IT'S DURING A ONE ON ONE OR SOMETHING, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING YOUR DESIRES.
BUT I THINK WE CAN. YEAH. OKAY. AND WE CAN HAVE BOARDS INVOLVED.
BUT IF WE ADVERTISE ELSEWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY SOME KIND OF A ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF WHO PROVIDED THE ARTWORK, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE ALLOWABLE AS PART OF THEIR PERMITTING PROCESS, LIKE, LIKE A, YOU KNOW, ADOPT A ROAD KIND OF STRATEGY. YEAH. THE COLOR I THINK IS I THINK YOU BROUGHT UP THE BLENDING IN THING.
I THINK EVEN IF THERE ARE NATURE SCENES KEEPING IT.
BUT THAT'S WHY I LIKE WHAT COMMISSIONER BREYER SAID, LIKE THOSE PICTURES YOU HAD WERE GREAT.
BUT IF YOU MADE THEM LIKE, LIKE AN OIL PAINTING REPRESENTATION SO THAT IT'S IT'S THE SAME, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT. I THINK THAT I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
AND FOR A FIRST AND FOR A FIRST GO, THAT'S AN EASY FIRST INTRO.
HAVE YOU EVER PLAYED AROUND LIKE A PHOTO FILTER THING.
YEAH, YEAH. MAKE IT ALMOST LIKE A WATER STAINED GLASS OR SOMETHING.
LIKE, LOOK AT MY AVATAR. LOOKS MUCH BETTER THAN MY PHOTO.
YEAH. YEAH. GREAT. NO, I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S PERFECT FOR THE FIRST GO ROUND.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AS THE NEXT YEAR AND THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WE COULD START GETTING A LITTLE DEEPER INTO, I CAN TELL YOU FROM WHAT WE EXPERIENCED IN CORAL SPRINGS, IF YOU GO FULL BORE WITH JUST ART IS INTERPRETIVE, IT'S IT'S A SHOCK TO THE SYSTEM. YOU KNOW, LIKE THE LOGO.
ANYWAY. MOVING ON. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
IT'S. YEAH. WELL, ACCORDING TO YOU, ACCORDING TO OUR BUDGET.
THAT'S IT. OKAY. WELL, THEN HOLD ON. LET ME CHECK.
MOTION TO ADJOURN. NOTES. MOTION. MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ADJOURN. ANYBODY. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECONDED.
OKAY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.