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GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP MEETING -- THIS EXTRA PIECE. SOMEONE TALK? ANYWAY, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP FOR THE CITY OF PARKLAND FEBRUARY 19TH, 2025 AT 5:00 P.M. PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE.
>>I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE ALL. GOD AMERICA
[4.A. Strategic Plan Discussion]
>> THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE A REGULAR AGENDA. WE WILL START WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN DISCUSSION. WE HAVE THE AMAZING HERB HERE TODAY. HERB, TAKE IT AWAY.
>> STRATEGIC PLAN THREE HAS BEEN WORKED ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
I CAN TAKE A BROAD LOOK AT THE VISION. I CAN YELL AT MY CATTLE BUT NOT -- THE KEY PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT IS IMPORTANT
-- >> I CLOSER. YEAH.TO TEACH? FOLKS LIKE TO STAY HERE, SOME PEOPLE CERTAINLY WILL. THERE WILL BE A DEMOGRAPHIC SHIFT OVER TIME WHICH MIGHT BE DRAMATIC.
SECONDLY, A THEME FROM ALL OF YOU, THIS IS A VERY HIGH QUALITY COMMUNITY, HOW DO WE KEEP IT UP HERE? FOR A LOT OF THESE, YOU CAN USE ANY THAT YOU LIKE. THERE WILL BE IMMEDIATE CHOICES ABOUT THAT AS WELL AS LONGER-TERM SPIRIT FOR A BRIEF CONVERSATION, WE ALL UNDERSTAND THIS CAN BE GREAT FOR PARKLAND OR COULD BE HORRIBLE FOR PARKLAND. IT IS NOT UNDER YOUR CONTROL. I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. LET'S START WITH THE GENERATIONAL ONE, DO YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING IN THIS COMMUNITY? WHAT DO YOU THINK IT MAY BE OVER TIME?
>> IN FACT, WE CAP ALL OF THE -- BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH WE HAVE HAD. THEY WANT EMPTY NESTERS TO STAY BUT WE HAVE HAD A HUGE INFLUX AND CONTINUE TO. WE DO HAVE SOME TURNOVER IN PARKLAND.
I'M NOTICING IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT YES, PEOPLE DO
WANT TO STAY. >> I THINK WITH THE GROWTH IN THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF PARKLAND IT HAS BROUGHT A LOT OF FAMILIES OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS. WE MAY BE AN AGING POPULATION FOR LACK
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OF A BETTER TERM BUT WE ARE A LITTLE TIME AWAY FROM THAT.>> ALL OF THE LEAGUES ARE AT RECORD HIGHS. FRIDAY OR SUNDAY NIGHT YOU CAN BARELY FIND PARKING, THAT IS THE CHALLENGE,
WE HAVE SO MANY KIDS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO VOICE FOR THE RECORD, YOU MIGHT WANT TO KEEP THIS --
>> SO MANY YOUNG FAMILIES THAT WE ARE WORKING ON ANOTHER PARK, WE WILL LOOK AT THAT TOO. WE HAVE A BLESSING OF HAVING SUCH A GROWING NUMBER OF FAMILIES THAT I DO NOT SEE THAT CHANGING IN
THE NEAR FUTURE. >> WE ARE TRYING TO GEAR OURSELVES TO BUILD NEW PARKS, TRYING TO STAY IN THAT.
>> IN THE SAME TOKEN, WE DO HAVE AN AGING POPULATION THAT WE WANT TO FIND PROGRAMS FOR THEM AS WELL.
>> DEPENDS ON THE PROGRAM AND THE TIMELINES WE ARE LOOKING AT.
WE HAVE SOME 55+ DEVELOPMENTS AND THEY ARE VERY POPULAR. YOU LOOK, EVEN IF YOU HAVE YOUNGER FAMILIES THAT ARE HERE, YOUR POINT IS THAT SOME POINT THOSE KIDS GO TO HIGH SCHOOL, THEY GRADUATE AND COME ON AND THEY WILL HAVE TO DECIDE IF THEY WILL STAY HERE AS EMPTY-NESTERS OR GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. I THINK MANY OF THEM WILL OPT TO STAY HERE. I THINK IT WILL BE A BALANCE TOWARDS THE FAMILY UNIT AND PEOPLE COMING HERE FOR THE GREAT EDUCATION AT PARKS ET CETERA. I DO THINK SOMETHING DOES HAVE TO BE KEPT IN MIND BECAUSE THERE IS A CHANGE IN DEMOGRAPHICS THAT I HAVE SEEN EVEN SINCE I HAVE MOVED HERE AND TO THE EXTENT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE WHETHER IT IS INFRASTRUCTURE, I LOOK AT IT LIKE THE HARD AND SOFT SERVICE. INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHETHER THERE IS GOING TO BE FACILITIES AND THINGS THAT WE OFFER VERSUS MORE RECREATIONAL . WE TALKED ABOUT BROWARD HEALTH BUYING SOME PROPERTY WITH A DIVISION OF MEDICAL SERVICES. IT IS WORTH HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT. IT MAY NOT BE IN THE SHORT TERM TO EVERYONE ELSE'S POINT, WE ARE ON OUR WAY THERE.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS, WE HAVE VISUALLY SEEN A DEMOGRAPHICS CHANGE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT FOUR SEASONS IN THE FALL IS SOLD OUT. WE ARE NOT HAVING A DEMOGRAPHICS CHANGE IN THE CITY, WE DO OFFER THOSE PARTICULAR DIVISIONS WHERE SOMEONE CAN GO AND HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. AS FAR AS SEEING NEW FAMILIES COME IN, AGAIN, HAVING TO CAPTURE SPORTS LEAGUES TELLS YOU THAT YOU ARE MAXED OUT ON THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS. THAT IS SOMETHING TO BE MINDFUL ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS ANYTHING TO CONCERN YOURSELF.
>> I AGREE WITH ALL THE COMMENTS MADE, I DO THINK YOUR STATEMENT MEANS THAT WE ARE LIKELY TO GROW INTO EMPTY-NESTERS, I THINK THAT IS RIGHT, THAT IS ACCURATE. SPORTS LEAGUES ARE CAPPED OUT AND THAT IS ABSOLUTLY THE SIGNED OF THE ONGOING GROWTH OF YOUNGER FAMILIES. IT IS A CONSIDERATION. RICH WHAT YOU JUST SAID, FOUR SEASONS IN THE FALLS ARE SOLD OUT. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EMPTY-NESTERS BEING IN THEIR 50S AND THEN 60S AND 70S. THOSE ARE UNIQUE NEEDS AND DIFFERENCES WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT LONG-TERM STRATEGICALLY. UNDERSTANDING THAT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW IN MANY WAYS IS ONGOING.
>> THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE VILLAGE.
ONE OF THE REASONS WE WERE BEING PROACTIVE AND TRYING TO HAVE A DIVERSE MAKEUP NOT JUST OF OUR COMMUNITY BUT WHAT ARE -- OUR COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE, IN THE VILLAGE WE ARE TELLING EVERYONE WE ARE NOT JUST PARKS, WE ARE MORE THAN NOT, NEW AMENITIES, DIFFERENT THINGS. I THINK WHAT WE WILL SEE WHEN WE GET TO THAT NEXT PHASE, YOU WILL SEE THE DEVELOPERS COME IN AND WANT TO GEAR MORE TOWARDS THAT. NOT THAT YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO WITH THE OLDER POPULATION. AS LONG AS THE SCHOOLS CONTINUE TO BE A RATED WHICH NOT MANY COMMUNITIES CAN BRAG THAT THEY HAVE ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, AND HIGH SCHOOL A RATED, OUR HOME VALUES WILL BE ELEVATED AND PEOPLE WILL BE TRYING TO FORCE THEMSELVES IN HERE TO HAVE
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THEIR KIDS COME TO OUR SCHOOLS RATHER THAN SOMEWHERE ELSEHAVING TO PAY FOR PRIVATE. >> YOU ARE SEEING MORE SECOND GENERATIONS HERE. YOUNG FAMILIES AND PARENTS ACTUALLY STAND HERE.
ASPEN GARDENS ACTUALLY HAS A WAITING LIST. ALLEGRA AND ASPEN GARDENS ARE PACKED. AND YOU ARE SEEING SECOND-GENERATION FOLKS
HERE. >> TO COMMISSIONER CAMERON'S POINT, HAVING A WEDGE, I MOVED HERE 10 YEARS AGO, WE DID NOT HAVE THE WEDGE. HAVING THE WEDGE, YOU ARE NOTICING SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT. NOW YOU JUST ADDED ALL OF THOSE HOMES AND YOU ARE NOW SEEING PEOPLE IN EXISTING HOMES MOVE UP TO NEWER HOMES IN THE WEDGE. YOU ARE SEEING SOME CHANGE OF WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. THE CITY, BECAUSE OF ITS GROWTH, YOU ARE NOW SEEING A MUCH MORE DIVERSE DEMOGRAPHIC.
>> PARKLAND ROYALE WITH THE POTENTIAL HENDRIX CONVERSATION, ESPECIALLY HENDRIX, AS WE CONTINUE TO ADD HOUSES AND POTENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, IT WILL SHOW YOU WHAT THOSE CAN LOOK LIKE OR WHAT THEY CAN ATTRACT. I THINK WHY ALL OF THE LEAGUES ARE BEING TAPPED OUT IS THAT IT IS A GROWTH IN POPULATION, I DON'T THINK THAT IS INDICATIVE OF IF THIS WILL BE THE CONTINUED DEMOGRAPHIC OF THE CITY, IT WILL BE THE OPPOSITE. AS YOU SEE FAMILIES WITH YOUNG KIDS ENTER INTO THE LEAGUE SYSTEMS, THEY WILL GRADUATE THROUGH IT AND THERE COMES TO A POINT IF THEY MAKE A CHOICE IF THEY WANT TO STAY IN PARKLAND AS EMPTY-NESTERS AND IF THEY WILL FIND SOMEWHERE THAT SUITS THEIR NEEDS, IT IS THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG AND THEY WILL SEE IF THE CITY WILL CATER TO THAT DEMOGRAPHIC OR NOT. AS A COMMISSIONER AND AS A CITY, OR WE LOOKING TO BUILD FOR?
INAUDIBLE ] >> I DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PARKLAND BECOMING AN OLD-AGE COMMUNITY. RIGHT.
>> AS LONG AS THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE 50S.
>> THE VILLAGE IS SOMETHING THAT WE PROACTIVELY SAID THAT WE NEEDED SOMETHING, INSTEAD OF MAKING IT A PARK, 20 YEARS AGO, SOMEBODY MIGHT WANTED TO DO, WE MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO OFFER MORE FOR OUR RESIDENTS BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE.
>> YEAH. >> PARKLAND IS UNIQUE BECAUSE THERE IS OLD PARKLAND AND KNEW PARKLAND AND MY DISTRICT THAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER LOVE TO SEE DEMOGRAPHICS ABOUT HOW DISTRICTS 4 AND 3 LOOK.
>> YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF YOUNGER FAMILIES MOVING INTO THE WEDGE AND INTO THE BRANCHES.
THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF PLACES WHERE YOU CAN FIND ACRE LOTS. A LOT OF FAMILIES ARE MOVING TO OLD PARKLAND.
>> WELL LET'S TALK ABOUT SAFETY. YOU ALL WANT TO KEEP THIS COMMUNITY SAFE.
DRAW, THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY IS A TREMENDOUS DRAW.
WHAT DO YOU THINK NEEDS TO HAPPEN? WHAT IDEAS DO YOU HAVE?
>> I THINK THAT SIDE OF PARKLAND IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY DISTINCTIVE FOR US. MAYBE HIGHLIGHTING THAT IN A WAY WOULD
BE SOMETHING, I LOVE THAT. >> WE HAVE BEEN TALKING FOR YEARS ABOUT MAINTAINING THE SMALL TOWN CHARM, THAT IS PART OF IT. AND IT IS VERY WELL RECEIVED. OUR SCHOOLS, AS THE MAYOR SAID RA RATED. WE WILL HAVE A CHALLENGE WITH YOUNGER FAMILIES BECAUSE THE PRICES OF HOUSES HAVE GONE UP SO MUCH THAT MY KIDS WILL STRUGGLE TO COME BACK TO PARKLAND. THAT MAY BE AN
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ISSUE. I THINK THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE MAY HAVE, THIS PARK IS ANOTHER ONE. THERE IS A PLAYGROUND FOR YOUNGER KIDS, PICKLE BALL COURTS, THINGS THAT CATER TO ALL GENERATIONS.AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE, KEEPING THAT SMALL TOWN CHARM, GOLF CART POLICIES AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. I KNOW SOME CITIES IN WELLINGTON AND OTHERS HAVE DONE THAT. WE WILL
SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. >> I AGREE WITH THE SMALL-TOWN GOLF CART. THAT KEEPS THE SMALLER TOWN CONCEPT. THE CREST OF THE ENVIRONMENTALLY PROUD. THE LAND AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT IS UNIQUE TO OUR CITY AND THE PROXIMITY TO THE EVERGLADES AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT WALKING TRAILS AND NATURE PRESERVE PARKS AND THINGS THAT WE KIND OF HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF AND IN SOME REGARDS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NECESSARILY HIGHLIGHT IT OR FOCUS ON AS MUCH. IT IS THE FABRIC OF THE CITY. IF WE WANT TO DISTINGUISH WHO WE ARE, THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE.
>> I COMPLETELY AGREE. THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING TO CONSIDER AND LOOK AT. WE HAVE BROUGHT OUR KIDS TO WATCH THE SUNSET, IT IS A LOT OF CEMENT AND A LOT OF NOT PARKLAND FEEL. THAT IS SOMETHING. ANOTHER THING WE WILL TALK ABOUT WITH THE NATURAL BEAUTY AND THE PARKS, YOU KNOW.
>> WHAT DOES ENVIRONMENTALLY PROUD MEAN TO YOU?
>> I THINK PARKS AND NATURAL BEAUTY AND PRESERVING IT AND EVEN BEING A LEADER AND ROLL MODEL AS THE ENVIRONMENTALLY
PROUD. >> IS THAT NATURAL AND NATURE
PROUD OR ENVIRONMENTALLY? >> I THINK IT'S BOTH, MAYOR.
>> ENERGY EFFICIENCY, SOLAR, THINGS THAT HELP BUILD OUT MORE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HAVE HAD SOLAR PANELS IN THE PAST. WE HAVE UPGRADED OUR CHARGING STATIONS FOR CARS. I DO THINK -- RIGHT. WELL, YOU KNOW. THERE ARE STILL DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE ÚBETWEEN BUSINESS INTERESTS AND
ENVIRONMENTAL. >> THERE ARE COSTS. AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE FEASIBLE THAT ARE NOT COSTLY WHERE WE COULD BE A LITTLE MORE FORWARD THINKING AND SELL A LITTLE MORE BECAUSE OUR SEAL IS ENVIRONMENTALLY PROUD.
>> I'VE BEEN TRYING TO CHAMPION THIS FOR YEARS NOW. IT IS LIKE PUTTING A SIGNATURE ON A CITY. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THERE FOREVER. IT IS TAILORED TOWARDS A THEME OR CONCEPT THAT GIVES MORE VIBRANCE IN IDENTITY INSTEAD OF THE SURROUNDING
ENVIRONMENT. >> I THINK OUR STAFF AND IN SOME RESPECTS PARTNERING, WE HAVE DONE A ROUND OF THIS, THE ROUNDABOUTS, THIS MAY BE ANOTHER AREA FOR FURTHER EXPANSION. THE PUBLIC PLACES COMMITTEE, THAT IS WHAT STARTED IT. I THINK REDOING THAT PARK , THAT IS OUR WORK IN THAT PARK WITH THE ROUNDABOUTS, THAT IS ANOTHER GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE BEEN IN A WHILE, THEY HAD THOSE FORCES WHERE DIFFERENT ARTISTS HAVE CREATED MURALS. ALL SORTS OF ANIMALS THAT WERE PAINTED BY ARTISTS AND THEN THEY GO AWAY.
THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING. >> HOW ABOUT THE OVERPASS PROJECT. FOR ME, THAT IS A WAY TO BEAUTIFY THE CITY. YEAH, FOR SURE.
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PROJECT, THE LIGHTING WE ARE PUTTING UP NOW WHICH WILL DIFFERENTIATE FROM THE CONCRETE POLES, THOSE THINGS ADD TO THE CHARM AND CHARACTER AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT OF IT. THAT IS A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING EAST TOWARDS UNIVERSITY AND WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR EVENTUALLY.>> I THINK THE SMALL TOWN CHARM, EVERYONE AGREES IS THAT THEY LOVE THAT ABOUT PARKLAND. IT IS INHIBITIVE AND RESTRICTIVE OF THE GROWTH OF THE CITY BECAUSE WE ARE NOT A SMALL TOWN ANYMORE, MAYBE RELATIVE TO OTHER CITIES BUT NOT RELATIVE TO HOW THE CITY STARTED, THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO MAKE A TRANSITION TO MAKE IT ELEGANT. THAT STILL GIVES YOU THE COUNTRY ASPECT WHICH IS WHAT PEOPLE ASSOCIATE WITH SMALL TOWN CHARM AND THE OLD AND NEW PARKLAND, IT IS NOT SO MUCH THAT THERE IS ANYTHING DIFFERENT, WE ARE TRYING TO CATER TO THE MODERN NEEDS OF PEOPLE WHILE STILL KEEPING THE FOCUS OF THE PAST.
>> YEAH, SORRY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK PEOPLE SOMETIMES CONFUSE, TO YOUR POINT, WE CANNOT BUILD RETAIL BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT SMALL-TOWN, YOU CAN DO BOTH. YOU HAVE TO EVOLVE. IT IS HOW YOU EVOLVE IF YOU ARE BUILDING A PARK A RETAIL COMPLEX, WHATEVER IT IS. IT IS WHAT YOU DO WITHIN THE CONFINES THAT DEFINED WHAT AND WHO YOU ARE.
>> I DO NOT SEE THEM AS MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. WE TALKED ABOUT THE VILLAGE AND THE SCALE OF THE VILLAGE AND THE MASS OF IT. I DON'T SEE AS BEING INCONGRUENT.
>> A SOLID WELL THOUGHT OUT DESIGN AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. I DON'T WANT US TO TURN INTO A CORPORATE IDEA OF WHAT A SMALL TOWN MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN 2025. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN THERE.
THE IDEA OF WHAT A ISLAND IN FLORIDA MIGHT LOOK LIKE. WE ARE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THAT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN THAT AUTHENTICITY. THEY JUST BUILT A AND THEY ARE SAYING FROM THE 1940S. IN THE ESSENCE TO STAY SMALL-TOWN, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL TO WRITE THAT DESIGN LINE. DO NOT TURN INTO A CHARACTER OF WHAT A SMALL TOWN LOOKS LIKE.
>> LIKE SPECIFIC DESIGN CUES AND WHAT I THINK ABOUT THEM IN MY HEAD? LOTS OF EXPOSED WOOD. I SEE LOTS OF EXPOSED WOOD IN
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COUNTRY ELEGANCE. QUALITY SERVICES AND TEXTURES AND THINGS THAT MAKE YOU FEEL A CERTAIN WAY ABOUT BEING AROUND IT. NO, IT DEFINITELY DOES NOT FEEL CHEAP.>> RIGHT, HIGHER QUALITY. >> IT IS NOT CHEAP, THAT IS THE
PROBLEM. >> THERE IS A FEELING IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE SHOPPING CENTERS WITHIN THE CITY, APPEAR BY PARKLAND GOLF, LESS LANDSCAPING ALL AROUND, IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A STRIPMALL, THERE IS A WATER FEATURE IN THE PARKS, IT HAS THAT FEELING. THERE IS A WAY TO DO IT, I CAN TELL YOU, WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH SOME OTHER CITIES AND THEN GET TO PARKLAND, THERE IS A DIFFERENT FEELING. IT WAS INTENTIONAL.
>> THAT, I AGREE WITH. I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU. YOU DID NOT DO THE 441 STRIP PLAZA, TO YOUR POINT, THAT WAS JUST THROWN TOGETHER, TO TRY AND MAKE IT FEEL A CERTAIN WAY AND IT TOTALLY MISSED THE MARK. BUT THEN SOMETIMES, RIGHT , IT DOES NOT LOOK DISTINCTIVE IN ANY WAY. NOT THAT IT IS NOT DISTINCTIVE, IT IS CERTAINLY NOT DISTINCTIVE FOR SURE. THAT WAS FORCED WHEN IT WAS A REALLY WELL PLANNED OUT. THEY SAID, WE ARE PARKLAND, LET'S THROW SOME TREES AND THAT IS PARKLAND.
>> BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY DO NOT FEEL LIKE THEY ARE PART OF PARKLAND. THEY ARE, RETAILERS WILL CONTINUE TO DO WELL THERE.
I DON'T THINK THEY FEEL THE SAME AS OTHER SPOTS IN THE CITY.
>> WHAT YOU HEAR FROM EVERYBODY TALKING ABOUT IT, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT AESTHETICS AND THE LOOK OF THINGS, IT ALL COMES BACK TO FEEL. THE REASON COUNTRY ELEGANCE HAS ALWAYS RING A BELL WITH ME OR STRUCK A CHORD, YOU DO TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE AGRICULTURAL PART OF THE CITY AND THEN YOU HAVE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SERVICE AND AMENITIES THAT SOME OTHER CITIES WITH TWICE THE POPULATION AND BETTER BUDGETS DON'T HAVE. MAINTAINING THAT LOOK TO THE PAST WHEN PEOPLE COME HERE, THEY DO NOT NECESSARILY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE IN SOME MODERNIZED VERSION OF WHAT PEOPLE THINK IS COUNTRY LIVING. IT IS THAT THERE IS THIS AUTHENTIC FEEL THAT IT WAS BORN OUT OF PEOPLE THAT MOVED AWAY FROM THE MORE URBAN ENVIRONMENT TO COME TO A MORE RURAL CITY AND BUILT THEIR CITY AS IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE ALL OF THE AMENITIES AND THINGS THAT COME WITH MODERN AND URBAN LIVING.
>> THE ONE ISSUE I HAVE WITH COUNTRY ELEGANCE IS THAT A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE ONLY THINK OF HORSES. TO ME, COUNTRY IS LUSH LANDSCAPING. THE CANOPY TREES, YOU COME THERE, YOU ARE OUTSIDE.
IT IS MORE ABOUT NATURE THAN IT IS ABOUT YOUR TYPICAL COUNTRY.
>> OPEN SPACES. >> WE NEED TO BE MORE MINDFUL OF IT ON THE WEST SIDE TOO. WE PRESERVED A LOT OF THE UNIQUE CHARACTER OF PARKLAND. BRIDGE PARK, I DID -- I'M BLANKING ON THE NAME, THE NATURE PRESERVE WALK WAY BY THE EVERGLADES.
RIVERSIDE AND PARKSIDE. WE HAVE PRESERVED SOME OF THAT CHARACTER. WE HAVE THE EQUESTRIAN CENTER, THE FARMERS MARKET, ALL THESE THINGS THAT ADD UP. PEOPLE COME HERE FROM DELRAY. THEY BRAG ABOUT OUR PARKS. WOW, YOU GUYS HAVE REALLY NICE PARKS. THEY COME TO THE FARMERS MARKET, THEY COME TO THE THINGS THEY DON'T HAVE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. TO GIVE A SENSE OF THE SMALL TOWN CHARM. WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT. I AM BIASED,
BUT YES. >> WHAT IS THE PROGRAMMING? IT ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING. MORE THAN JUST ONE SPECIFIC THING.
>> VERY FAMILY FOCUSED, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT COUNTRY LIVING, PEOPLE ON A FARM, PEOPLE DOING EVERYTHING TOGETHER AS A FAMILY.
PEOPLE DO THINGS AND ACTIVITIES AS A STUFF, KIDS TAGALONG TWO THINGS THAT ARE MORE ADULT, PARKLAND DAY, THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT GOES BACK TO THE FIRST QUESTION, WHAT ARE WE BUILDING FOR? WHO ARE WE LOOKING TO ATTRACT? THAT WILL ALWAYS BE PART OF PARKLAND. PEOPLE WERE ATTRACTED TO THAT, EVEN EMPTY-NESTERS, THEY WANT TO BE IN THAT ENVIRONMENT.
>> RIGHT. FAMILY CENTERED IS VITAL. YEAH. FAMILY CENTERED
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GIVE YOU EVERYTHING. IT MAINTAINS HIGH EDUCATION WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO EVERYBODY, A HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE, THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR. IT IS THE BEST OF EVERYTHING BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE A FAMILY, YOU WANT TO PROVIDE THE BEST OF EVERYTHING FOR YOUR FAMILY.>> OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN IDEAS ABOUT THE FUTURE. JUST TALK TO ME ABOUT IT FOR A MOMENT. WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT AT? ARE YOU IN CONVERSATION WITH
IT? >> WE HAVE TO COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT THIS IS SUCH A LARGE BUSINESS TRANSACTION IT WILL SELL FOR $1 BILLION, LITERALLY. A BUSINESS TRANSACTION LIKE NO OTHER. WHILE WE THINK WE CAN TRY AND DO CERTAIN THINGS FOR HENDRIX TO COERCE HIM TO COME INTO PARKLAND AND BE PART OF PARKLAND, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT ANYONE DEALING WITH THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS TRANSACTION WILL TRY AND GET THE BEST OFFER HE CAN. UNFORTUNATELY, THE BEST OFFER THEY WILL GET IS TO USE THE COUNTY AGAINST US AND SAY, IF WE STAY IN UNINCORPORATED BROWARD, IT IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT IT IS UNINCORPORATED BROWARD, THEY WILL GIVE ME 10 UNITS PER ACRE.
WHAT IS PARKLAND WILLING TO DO? WHILE WE CAN TRY AND NEGOTIATE AND SAY THAT WE WILL OFFER THIS, WE WOULD BE NEGOTIATING WITH OURSELVES NOT KNOWING -- ULTIMATELY ANYONE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNTY TO SEE WHAT OFFERS THEY COULD POTENTIALLY GET. IT IS GOOD FOR US TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION AND TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT THINGS WE WOULD POTENTIALLY WANT TO PROVIDE OR TRY AND OFFER. IN REALITY, THAT IS HOW IT IS GOING TO WORK. I WILL PICK A SUITOR, THAT SUITOR WILL GO TO THE COUNTY TO GET THE BEST OFFER THEY CAN AND THEN THEY WILL COME TO US BECAUSE THEY WILL WANT TO BE IN PARKLAND AND SO WE WILL BE AT THE TABLE AND HAVE THE NEGOTIATION AND WE WILL HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THAT ENTITY.
YOU TO SOME EXTENT, I DON'T KNOW YOU PERSONALLY, I KNOW FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD, THERE WILL BE A LOT REGARDLESS. WHAT WE NEED TO APPEAL TO AS A CITY AND A COMMUNITY IS TO HAVE NONMONETARY INTANGIBLES, THINGS ABOUT LEGACY AND WHAT HE HAS BUILT OVER HIS LIFETIME AND THE GENERATIONS. TO ASSURE HIM THERE WILL BE SOME KIND OF LEGACY WHEN HE'S DONE WITH OUR LAND AS OPPOSED TO SOME KIND OF PAVER TO PUT UP A PARKING LOT AND IT ENDS UP BEING SOMETHING THAT HAS NO REMNANTS OR RELATIONSHIP TO WHO HIS FAMILY WAS. ONE THING YOU AND I SPOKE ABOUT WAS TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO CREATE SOME AGREEMENT THAT IT GETS ANNEXED INTO PARKLAND AND THERE WILL BE SOME NAMING OF IF THERE WILL BE SOME KIND OF AGRICULTURE DEVELOPMENT OR HAVING SOMETHING HENDRIX FARMS WHERE HIS NAME WILL JUST LIVE ON BEYOND THE PROPERTY.
THAT IS SOMETHING YOU CANNOT PAY FOR.
>> I COMPLETELY AGREE. I WILL JUST SAY, WHAT WE CAN DO NOW, PART OF THAT, THERE HAS BEEN GOOD COMMUNICATION WITH THAT, I DID HAVE THE PLEASURE, HE GAVE ME A FEW MOMENTS TO MEET WITH HIM AND HIS WIFE, LOVELY PEOPLE AND IS VERY ADAMANT THAT THE LAND WILL NOT BE SOLD. HIS KIDS HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT. BUT THAT COMMUNICATION AND DEVELOPING EVEN A MORE FORMALIZED WAY TO HAVE THOSE TYPES OF DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE I HAVE TO THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO HIM. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WILL BE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, CAN HE BE IN THE PARKLAND PARADE NOW WITH US? I KNOW IT IS AROUND THE CORNER. BUT ARE THERE WAYS THAT WE CAN INTEGRATE, IF HE IS WILLING, HE AND HIS WIFE
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AND HIS FAMILY, TO INTEGRATE INTO THE COMMUNITY MORE AS PART OF COMMUNICATIONS AND AS WE SEE THAT, HE HAS TO BE OPEN TO IT. I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT HE WOULD NOT FIND THAT TO BE INTRIGUING ORWOULD BE INTERESTED. >> I DON'T DISAGREE BUT $1 BILLION IS A LOT. THAT IS BEYOND GENERATIONAL.
>> TO JORDAN'S POINT, I MET HIM AND TALK TO HIM, I HEAR YOU. THE MAYOR IS RIGHT IN MANY RESPECTS. IF MONEY WAS THE SOLE FACTOR, THEY WOULD'VE SOLD THAT LAND NOW.
>> EVERY DAY THE PRICE GOES UP. >> THIS IS A MAN, FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SURMISE, THIS MAN HAS PRINCIPLE, A MULTI GENERATIONAL FARMING RESTORATION, HE WILL TELL YOU ALL OF THE STORIES ABOUT THE FOUNDERS OF THIS AREA, A TREASURE TROVE OF THE HISTORY OF NOT ONLY THIS TOWN BUT THE SURROUNDING AREA. I DO THINK WE CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE IN ENGAGING DISCUSSIONS. NOT TO SAY THAT THE LAND AT SOME POINT IS NOT GOING TO SELL, WORTH ENOUGH MONEY THAT MAYBE HE WANTS TO KEEP IT FOR THE NEXT GENERATION, AT SOME POINT, THAT IS A VERY LIKELY REALITY. NOT TO SAY THAT I GATHERED FROM HIM IT IS NOT HIS INTENTION TO HARM THE CITY OF PARKLAND. THAT IS PROBABLY TRANSLATED INTO HIS CHILDREN. I THINK WE CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE HAVING DIALOGUE AND DISCUSSION WITH HIM. AND I THINK WE CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE IN WHAT WE CAN DO TO HONOR THAT LEGACY , TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL PATH FORWARD. I THINK THAT IS THE KEY. JUST BECAUSE IT HAS SOLD, EVEN IF IT IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF PARKLAND, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE THE WORST THING EVER. WE CAN MANAGEMENT IN A WAY WHERE WOULD BE MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL. IF IT DOES NOT SELL AND CONTINUES TO BE FARMLAND, WE SHOULD NOT WAIT UNTIL THE SALE TO HONOR THAT LEGACY AND HISTORY AND HONOR HIS CONNECTION AND THE ROOTS THAT HE AND HIS FATHER AND GRANDFATHER HAVE PLANTED HERE, NO PUN INTENDED, WE CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE ABOUT THAT NOW. HE IS AT AN AGE WHERE LEGACY BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT.
>> FOR HIM, YES. I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH WHAT ANYBODY IS SAYING AT ALL. WE JUST HAVE TO BE REALISTIC. PARKLAND WILL ALWAYS HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE BECAUSE ANYBODY WILL ULTIMATELY WANT TO COME INTO PARKLAND. WHAT LEVERAGE ARE THEY GOING TO USE AND WHAT LEVERAGE WILL THEY HAVE OVER US SO THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM FOUR UNITS PER ACRE OR THREE OR WHATEVER THE NUMBERS
ARE. >> THE MORE YOU DO NOW TO HONOR HIS FAMILY AND HIS LEGACY, INCLUDING WITH HIS KIDS, THE MORE YOU INGRATIATE THEM TO BE PARTNERS WITH US.
>> HE ONLY HAS ONE CHILD THAT IS LOCAL.
>> UNDERSTOOD, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IS THE ONLY ONE MAKING
DECISIONS. >> RIGHT. THAT IS MORE MY POINT.
IF THEY ARE NOT LOCAL -- >> YOUR GREAT-GRANDFATHER'S
HISTORY. >> I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH WOODY FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS FOR A TRIP AROUND THE FARM AND REALLY HE ENJOYED SHOWING IT OFF. THE AIRSTRIP USED TO FLY INTO THE FARM IS STILL THERE. SEEING HIS OFFICE, THE PARKLAND HISTORICAL SOCIETY, HIS OFFICE IS A TREASURE TROVE. THERE IS AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF PARKLAND HISTORY. IT'S INCREDIBLE. I THINK EVEN UTILIZING THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND BRINGING HIM INTO THAT IN SOME WAY, HAVING HIM INVOLVED.
>> WE WOULD HAVE TO REVITALIZE THAT.
>> THERE IS TALK ABOUT THAT. >> WE WOULD HAVE TO DO ALL THAT BEFORE WE BRING HIM INTO SOMETHING, OF COURSE.
>> IT WAS STRIKING HOW HIS OFFICE IS PARKLAND HISTORY,
IT'S INCREDIBLE. >> WE HAVE ALL INDEPENDENTLY REACHED OUT AND MET WITH HIM TO TALK ABOUT INTRODUCING EACH OTHER OR OURSELVES TO HIM TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HIS IMMEDIATE
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PLANS ARE, ET CETERA. I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER SAT DOWN AND HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH HIM ABOUT THE PRESERVATION AND HISTORY AND LEGACY OF HIS LAND AND ALSO THE FARMING COMMUNITY AND TO COMMISSIONER CAMERON'S POINT, BRINGING HIM INTO SHOW HIM THAT WE WOULD BE WILLING TO HONOR THAT LEGACY IN A WIDE VARIETY OF THINGS. WE NAME PARKS AFTER PEOPLE TO PRESERVE THE HISTORY OF PARKLAND. HE IS A HUGE PART OF THAT HISTORY. HIS FAMILY IS A HUGE PART OF THAT HISTORY. I THINK WE CAN HAVE SOME OF THOSEDISCUSSIONS. >> I WILL BE THE KEY TO THAT.
YOU CAN DESIGN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX BUT CAN YOU PRESENT IT -- OF SOME FARMING IS OBVIOUSLY --
>> WE HAVE TO BE A LITTLE CAREFUL ABOUT TRYING TO DESIGN
ON HIS LAND. >> I DO THINK HAVING A DIALOGUE ABOUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO HIM, WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO HIS FAMILY AND FIGURING OUT A WAY WE CAN HONOR THAT.
>> SOME KIND OF WORKSHOP WHERE WE INVITE HIM INTO A WORKSHOP TO SIT DOWN AND TALK IT OUT. IS THAT YOU PRESUMPTIVE? OKAY. WE ARE WORKING ON SOME THINGS WITH THE RANCHERS PROJECT IN MIDWAY HE SAID, WHAT'S FOR LUNCH? THAT IS THE TYPE OF RAPPORT.
>> HE IS ALREADY PHASING HIMSELF OUT OF WHAT HE IS DOING. WHILE HE IS STILL THERE AND WORKING, HE IS LEASING THE FARM. HE IS
ALREADY MAKING ADJUSTMENTS. >> DEREK , THERE IS ONE THING I WANTED TO SHARE, I DID PICK UP ON ONE THING IN OUR
CONVERSATION. >> HE IS LEASING THE FARM BUT YOU CAN TELL HIS LOVE FOR WHAT HE IS DOING IS STILL THERE.
>> THAT IS WHY HE IS STILL THERE, SURE.
>> THE PEOPLE HE IS LEASING TWO, MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING THERE WITH THE LINEAGE OF THE FARMING IN PARKLAND. I'M JUST PUTTING
IT OUT THERE. >> WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO PUSH
>> MAYBE IT STAYS THAT WAY FOREVER, WE ARE GOOD WITH THAT.
FOR ME, WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE.
>> EVEN IF HE DOES NOT HAVE THE INTENTION TO SELL IN 10 OR 20 YEARS, WE SHOULD STILL HAVE THIS DIALOGUE.
>> TO ME, IT IS NO DIFFERENT TO WHAT KEN AND BOB AND THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY HAS BROUGHT TO US WITH THE CITIES AND NAMING CERTAIN THINGS. HONORING THE HISTORY OF PARKLAND IT IS WHAT WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DOING. AS A COMMISSION WE PAY ATTENTION TO THAT. 10 OR 15 YEARS, THE CITY GETS OLDER, HAVING THE DIALOGUE IF HE HAS NO INTENTION OF SELLING IT FOR 20 YEARS IS
WORTHWHILE. >> THAT MAN IS VERY DIRECT, IF YOU WILL TELL YOU HE IS NOT INTERESTED IN DISCUSSIONS. NANCY DID SAY SOME THING THAT WAS IMPORTANT. HIS PEOPLE, HIS CREWS, THEY ARE LIKE FAMILY. HE MADE THAT VERY CLEAR. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION TOO. COME THE DAY THAT HE IS OLDER, CAN WE INCORPORATE THAT INTO ANYTHING? YOU WILL LET US KNOW IF HE IS NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING ANY
DISCUSSIONS. GO AHEAD, RICH. >> KEEP IN MIND, HE HAS A GREAT PARTY IN THE CITY TOO. PART OF YOUR DISCUSSION, IT MIGHT BE THE 10TH OF THE ACREAGE IN THE INCORPORATED AREA, THERE WAS A PORTION THAT WAS ANNEXED IN. WE WERE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH HIM, I WAS NOT THE ATTORNEY AT THE TIME BUT MY COLLEAGUE WAS. WE DID HAVE A DRAFT ANNEXATION AGREEMENT THAT BASICALLY SAYS, WE WILL KEEP YOUR EXISTING USE, KEEP IT AS LONG AS YOU WANT, WHEN YOU CEASE THE USE, HERE IS WHAT THE CITY WILL DO IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT. AT LEAST HAVING THE FRAMEWORK AND DEVELOPMENT TO START THOSE DISCUSSIONS IF HE IS INTERESTED.
>> I GOT THE SENSE THAT WHETHER HE IS SITTING ON THE MONEY HE HAS NOW OR 100 TIMES THAT MONEY, HE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. HE IS GOING TO BE THE PERSON HE IS TODAY AND TOMORROW IF HE HAS $1 BILLION IN THE BANK OR $1 MILLION IN THE BANK. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT LEGACY.
>> I HEAR YOU. I THINK THEY CAN COEXIST. AGAIN, THOSE ARE REALLY
BIG NUMBERS. REALLY BIG NUMBERS. >> I KNOW YOU OUGHT TO GO AT
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6:00, I WILL WRAP UP HERE. ANYTHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COVER ON THE SEVENTH?>> I THINK WE ALL HAVE BEEN LETTING NANCY KNOW WHAT THE LIST
IS. >> I'M SURE SHE WILL HAVE A LIST. I WILL VOICE IT. I WANT US TO STAY FOCUSED ON WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR HERON BAY VILLAGE. WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF TALKS. WHAT I HAVE HEARD, OUR DIFFERING VIEWS. THERE IS A LOT OF COMMON GROUND, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT VIEWS ABOUT WHAT THE INTENDED LOOK WILL BE. MY HOPE AND GUIDING PRINCIPLE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PARK WITH COMMERCIAL ELEMENTS RATHER THAN A COMMERCIAL PLAZA WITH SOME GREEN SPACE AROUND.
>> I AGREE, I THINK STRATEGIC PLANNING IS A GREAT PLACE TO HAVE MORE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS. FOR ME, PERSONALLY, I'M MORE EAGER TO SEE WHAT DEVELOPERS COME BACK WITH. IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW. WE ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING THIS OUT TO THE PRIMITIVE PROFESSIONALS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY TO SEE WHAT THEY COME OUT WITH. I'M VERY INTERESTED TO SEE THOSE. I DO NOT WANT TO GET TOO BOGGED DOWN WITH MINOR DETAILS WHEN WE COULD ALL SAY, WELL, I LIKE THIS IDEA, WHATEVER IT IS, A DEVELOPER COMES IN AND HAS THIS AMAZING IDEA, WE ARE LIKE, WOW, FORGET EVERYTHING WE TALKED
ABOUT, THIS IS GREAT. >> WHAT WORRIES ME, HOW WE DRAFT AND CRAFT THE RFQ IS WHAT DICTATES WHAT WE GET. YOU ARE JUMPING TO STAGE TWO, I'M TRYING TO FOCUS ON STAGE ONE.
>> THE RFP TO ME, PART OF WHAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT LATER TONIGHT IS TRYING TO STAY OPEN AND FLEXIBLE SO THAT WE GET ALL THE BEST AND WE ARE NOT PIGEONHOLING SOMEBODY INTO THIS SPECIFIC LANE WHEN ALL THE LANES ARE OPEN, LET ME SEE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE. I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. LOOK, WHEN I GET SICK, I GO TO THE DOCTOR. WHEN I NEED AN ATTORNEY, I FIND AN ATTORNEY. WHEN I'M BUILDING A NEW PLAZA, I WILL GO TO PROFESSIONALS THAT WILL TELL ME WHAT IS GOING TO WORK. YOU KNOW, I TRY NOT TO GET TOO FAR INTO THE WEEDS UNTIL I KNOW WHAT WE
ARE LOOKING AT. >> THE WEEDS DICTATED BY HOW WE FRAME IT. ONE THING I ALWAYS WANT TO FOCUS ON, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, LAND MAKING IN PAST STRATEGIC PLANNING. IF THE ENTIRETY OF THE 30 ACRES WE ARE GOING TO CONSIDER TO BE THEIR CANVAS, EVEN JUST DETERMINING THE SIZE AND SCALE OF THE AREA THAT DEVELOPERS CAN WORK WITH, TO ME, THAT SETS THE TONE OF
WHAT WE WILL MAKE BACK. >> I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE. I SET UP A MEETING, WE HAVE A TREASURE TROVE OF FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY, ONE IS WITH THE LARGEST COMMUNITY SHOPPING CENTER DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTRY AND BEYOND, HE HAD SOME INTERESTING IDEAS. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THOSE. MY WORRY IS EXACTLY THAT. MY WORRY IS THAT , DOING WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, I SHARED THIS WITH NANCY AND ANTHONY, PARTNERING WITH THE DEVELOPER ON WHAT THE VISION IS AND HAVING THE DEVELOPER BRING THAT. TO SOME EXTENT, THAT WILL CHANGE. DO WITH THE RFP. WE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO GET US A VERY GENERAL AND BROAD LOOK OF WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE. WE ARE SETTING THE TONE AND GUIDELINES FOR WHAT WE WOULD LIKE IT TO LOOK LIKE AND WHAT TYPE OF FACILITIES WE WOULD HAVE. NOW IT IS UP TO THE PROFESSIONALS TO COME WITH THEIR GRANDIOSE IDEAS AND IT IS UP TO US TO FINE-TUNE THOSE AND SEE WHAT YOU DON'T WANT. THERE WILL BE DEVELOPERS THAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN. LOOK, THESE GUYS DON'T WANT WHAT I'M
OFFERING. >> I'M NOT A DEVELOPER.
>> BASED ON THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT, RESPONDING TO THE RFP WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT. YOU SAID SOME GOOD THINGS FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE, THERE WERE SOME GOOD WORDS.
>> WE HAVE IN THE BOOK THAT JOHN PROVIDED. WE HAVE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION THAT WILL BE PROVIDED IN THE RFP. ALL OF THE PICTURES AND THE BACKUP THAT JOHN PROVIDED, THAT IS PART OF
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THE RFP. ALL OF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT THEY COME BACK TO US WITH, THAT IS WHAT I AM MOST EXCITED TO SEE. I THINK JOHN DID AN AMAZING JOB TO SAY, HERE IS A BROAD BRUSH OF WHAT IT CAN LOOK LIKE AND NOW IT IS FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO THUMB THROUGH ALL OF THAT STUFF. WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES IN, YOU KNOW WHAT, I CAN TELL YOU DID NOT READ WHAT WE WROTE, GUESS WHAT, I HAVE ZERO DESIRE TO MOVE YOU ONTO THE NEXT PHASE. YOU WILL HAVE A DEVELOPER THAT WILL GO THROUGH AND READ EVERY SINGLE PAGE AND WILL CHECK ALL THE BOXES AND WE ARE LIKE, THIS IS THE GUY, LIKE JOHN. THIS IS THE COMPANY I WANT TO WORK WITH. AND THEN YOU TAKE THAT AND YOU HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND WE HAVE A WORKSHOP AND WE SIT DOWN WITH THEM TO KIND OF GO THROUGH ALL THAT STUFF. WHETHERWHATEVER HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS. >> I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU, RICH, ON THAT. I AM NEVER BUILT A VILLAGE BEFORE BUT I EAT DINNER ALL THE TIME. IT IS EASIER TO ORDER A DINNER OFF OF A MENU BY A CHEF THAN IT IS TO OPEN THE FRIDGE AND SAY, WHAT AM I GOING TO HAVE TONIGHT? IF YOU'RE NOT A CHEF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK WITH WHAT I HAVE HERE.
MAKING SURE THAT PROFESSIONALS DO WHAT PROFESSIONALS DO.
>> IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVE NOT DONE A LOT. AND WE ARE STILL NOT FINISHED. TONIGHT WILL GET US TO THE NEXT STEP. WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS. YOU KNOW. THAT IS WHAT I AM MOST EXCITED TO SEE WHEN IT OPENS. I FEAR IF WE TRY AND GET TO GRANULAR, WE WILL HAVE PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT BE INTERESTED.
>> THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE TIME THIS EVENING, I REALLY
APPRECIATE IT. >> THANKS, HERB.
>> THANKS, HERB . >> NEXT UP, BEFORE NEXT UP, I DO WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT IS ALREADY LIVE ON OUR WEBSITE AS IT PERTAINS TO THE STRATEGIC PLANNING AND PROVIDING UPDATES FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR PROJECTS AND IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. YOU GET QUARTERLY UPDATES. WE NOW ALSO HAVE THIS RESOURCE THAT PROVIDES ONGOING INFORMATION FOR OUR
RESIDENTS. GO AHEAD. >> WE MADE THIS LIFE TODAY, IF YOU GET ON OUR WEBSITE, WE HAVE STRATEGIC PLAN IN THE CITIES MANAGER'S OFFICE ANYWAY, IN THE CITY NEWS, WE WILL HAVE THIS FRONT AND CENTER, YOU CLICK RIGHT HERE AND WE WILL HAVE THIS LIVE. THIS CONTAINS, BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THE QUARTERLY REPORT, RIGHT NOW, ALL OF THE RESIDENTS CAN SEE IT. IT GIVES US AN OVERVIEW OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WHERE OUR PROGRESS IS, AND THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN DRILL DOWN TO EACH ONE OF OUR STRATEGIES, GOALS, AND THEN INDIVIDUAL ACTION PLANS.
RIGHT NOW, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU GET IN YOUR QUARTERLY
REPORT. >> TRYING TO BE TRANSPARENT AND SHARING INFORMATION WITH OUR RESIDENTS IS ANOTHER VALUABLE RESOURCE WHERE THEY CAN SEE WHAT YOU ALL ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND WHERE YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS.
>> CAN WE DO TODD MAKING A SOCIAL MEDIA POST? YEAH.
[4.B. Wedge Preserve Park Discussion]
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, JACKIE. NEXT UP, WE WILL TALK AND ACTUALLY SHOW YOU SOME FEATURES FOR THE WEDGE PRESERVE PARK. WE ARE COMING ONTO THE WIRE ON THE NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE CONTRACT WHICH YOU WILL SEE IN APRIL. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHERE OUR FINANCES ARE AND PREPARE OURSELVES FOR THE APRIL 17 STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION.
IN THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION LAST YEAR, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WEDGE PRESERVE PARK, MAYBE AT SOME POINT WE'LL GET TO THIS POINT WHERE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PART WILL HAVE TO CONSIDER IT FOR FUTURE PHASES. THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION CALLS FOR THIS PARK BUDGETED AT $32 MILLION. WE GOT THE 100% CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND WE ARE STARTING TO GO THROUGH THE FINALIZE COST IN NEGOTIATING THE GUARANTEED
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MAXIMUM PRICE. AS WE DO THAT, WE ARE ASKING FOR DIRECTION TO PRIORITIZE THE ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS AND TO RANK THOSE TODAY, IF YOU WOULD NOT MIND. JUST AS A REMINDER, AS WE GO THROUGH NEGOTIATIONS AND AS NANCY SAID, WE WILL HAVE BETTER UNDERSTANDINGS WHERE WE ARE WITH COST AS WE APPROACH THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION THIS YEAR. THE FINAL AMENDMENT WILL COME BACK TO YOU ALL FOR FINAL APPROVAL. THE ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT FOR MAKING TONIGHT ARE GOING TO BE THE BANK SHOP BASKETBALL COURTS, THE NINJA COURSE ON TOWER, THE MINI PLAY VILLAGE, SPLASH PAD, WE WILL ALSO TALK ABOUT PUTTING COVERS OVER THE PICKLE BALL COURTS, IF THEY ARE HARD OR SOFT, SAME THING FOR THE BASKETBALL COURTS.AND THEN YOU ALL WANTED TO ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF THE ARTIFICIAL TURF VERSE IS NATURAL TURF FOR THE ALL-PURPOSE FIELDS. JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THE OVERALL SITE PLAN. AS YOU MEANDER THROUGH THE MAIN ENTRANCE OFF OF HILLSBORO YOU WILL GO THROUGH THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE TWO PONDS. COME AROUND AND ON THE NORTH SIDE IS THE NATURE PRESERVE AREA. JUST OFF OF THAT IS THE PLAYGROUND AND MANY VILLAGE AND THEN WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND SOUTH OF THAT WOULD BE THE SPLASH PAD. OVER HERE, TOWARDS THE SQUARE AREA IS THE BANK SHOP AND THEN SOUTH OF THAT IS THE NINJA COURSE. THAT ALSO HAS A SPIRAL ELEVATED WEDGE PLATFORM THAT WILL HAVE A TWO-STORY TOWER IN THE CENTER. OVER HERE IS THE BASKETBALL COURTS , THE EIGHT PICKLE BALL COURTS AND FOUR BASKETBALL COURTS. THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS AND BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS IN THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE PARK. HERE IN THE MIDDLE CLOSE TO THE PARKING AREA AND THE MAIN ACTIVE AREAS OF THE PARK ARE ALSO A LITTLE SMALL EVENTS AREAS. SO FOR THE BANK SHOP BASKETBALL COURTS, THIS IS THE LAYOUT OF IT, IT WAS A LAYOUT FENCE WHERE IT WOULD BE COMPLETELY FENCED IN, THERE ARE SOME SEATING AREAS AS YOU COME INTO THE AREA AND THE AREA WILL BE COVERED WITH A SIGNAGE SALE. HERE IS THE IMAGE FOR YOU, THIS BANK SHOP BASKETBALL COURT WILL BE A 16 STATION PLAY CORE WITH SOFT COVERS AND WE WILL BE COMPLETELY FENCED IN AND HAVE A SOFT SIGN OF SALE. NEXT WOULD BE THE NINJA COURSE AND TOWER. YOU'LL ENTER AS YOU COME OFF THE SIDEWALK HERE, THE WALKING PATH IN THE PARK HERE. YOU WOULD MEANDER THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT OBSTACLE CHALLENGES GOING BACK AND FORTH AND FINISHING HERE WITH A POLE THAT HAS A BELL AT THE TOP THAT YOU CAN RING. AT THAT POINT, YOU CAN CONTINUE ALONG THE PATHWAY AND GO UP THE SPIRAL ELEVATED PLATFORM TO THE TOWER. THE TOWER IS ALSO AVAILABLE TO ACCESS EVEN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE NINJA WARRIOR, YOU CAN ACCESS IT THROUGH THIS SIDE OF THE PATHWAY. THIS IS A LAYOUT OF THE NINJA COURSE. IT WILL BE A 10 STATION CUSTOM FITNESS COURSE. A MIX OF CHALLENGES FROM LOWER BODY TO UPPER BODY. AND WOULD BE SUITABLE FOR KIDS FOR ALL AGES
AS WELL AS TEENS AND ADULTS. >> IS THAT SUPPOSED TO HAVE A
COVER? >> NO. WHEN YOU FINISH THE TOWER, THIS SPIRAL TOWER ELEVATED 12 FEET ABOVE GROUND LEVEL AND THIS IS WHAT THE TOWER WOULD LOOK LIKE ONCE YOU GET TO THE MIDDLE OF IT, THE TWO-STORY PLATFORM.
>> IT IS A COMBINATION OF BOTH. THE ELEVATED PLATFORM DOES ADD A LITTLE BIT OF THE FITNESS COMPONENT TO AS WELL.
>> I WANTED IT TO RAIN. >> IT CAN SERVE AS THE OUTLOOK TOWER WHERE YOU CAN GO OUT AND TAKE PICTURES THAT OVERLOOK THE PRESERVES. MOVING ON TO THE MINI PLAY VILLAGE AND PLAYGROUND, I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE PLAYGROUND IMAGES EVEN THOUGH THAT IS NOT ON YOUR LIST FOR RANKING TONIGHT, IT IS A REQUIRED COMPONENT FOR OUR GRANT. IT IS A CONNECTED AREA. IT IS COMPLETELY FENCED IN, THIS SLIDE IS THE PLAYGROUND AND THIS IS THE MANY VILLAGE AREA. THE THEME FOR THE'S AVIATION THEME SO THAT KIDS CAN BE CREATIVE AND FILE ON INTO THE PARK AND PLAY WITH DIFFERENT AVIATION STYLE PLAY EQUIPMENT. GUESS, WHERE WE ARE
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AT WITH 100% DESIGN DOCUMENTS MAKING ANY CHANGE AT THIS POINT, YEAH. THIS IS ANOTHER IMAGE IN THE PLAYGROUND, IT IS A TOWER THAT YOU WOULD SEE AT AN AIRPORT. IT DOES HAVE ALL OF THE SLIDES AND PLAY EQUIPMENT ATTACHED TO IT. THERE IS THE ZIP LINE AREA ON THIS SIDE, THERE ARE PLAYGROUNDS, SWINGS, AND OTHER PLAY FEATURES AS WELL. MOVING OVER TO OUR LITTLE TOWN, THIS IS THE MINI PLAY VILLAGE, IT WILL BE A NINE BUILDING MINIATURE TOWN THAT INCLUDES STREETS, STOP SIGNS, LIGHTS, TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND OUR VERY OWN PARKLAND ROUNDABOUT. THIS IS WHAT OUR BUILDINGS WOULD LOOK LIKE, THEY WOULD BE INTERACTIVE SO THAT KIDS CAN ACTUALLY GO IN THEM AND PRETEND THEY ARE INSIDE CITY HALL AND PLAY WITHIN THE FIRE TRUCK AND BECOME A DRIVER OF THE FIRE TRUCK. NINE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS WOULD BE THE CITY HALL AND POLICE STATION, FIRE STATION, GAS STATION, SHOPPING CENTER WITH A GROCERY STORE, LIBRARY, SCHOOL, RESTAURANT, AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE AMPHITHEATER.>> WILL WE HAVE CHARGING STATIONS TOO?
>> FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL. >> ARE SPLASH PAD ON THE CENTER CIRCLE HERE IS ACTUALLY THE WATER FEATURE AREA THAT ENCOMPASSES 1500 SQUARE FEET. JUST OUTSIDE OF THAT IS THE SITTING AREA WITH UMBRELLAS AND LOUNGERS AND SO FORTH. THIS ENTIRE AREA IS FENCED IN. JUST OUTSIDE THE SPLASH PAD AREA ARE A COUPLE OF PICNIC AREAS AND PAVILIONS THAT PEOPLE CAN RENT FOR PARTIES. ARE SPLASH PAD THEME IS BEACH ORIENTED. THESE ARE SOME PICTURES OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. JUST AS LONG AS NONE OF THE KIDS GET EATEN BY THE SHARKS. MOVING ONTO HARD AND SOFT COVERS. THESE ARE NOT ACTUAL PICTURES OF WHAT THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE. THESE ARE IMAGES WE PULLED FROM THE INTERNET SO YOU CAN GET A FEEL AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. A HARDCOVER IS WHAT WOULD BAS STAINLESS STEEL ROOF AND THE SOFT SIDE IS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WOULD SEE ON OUR PLAYGROUNDS. FOR THE PICKLE BALL COURTS, IT IS ONE HARDCOVER SINGLE STANDING CANOPY, THE SOFT SIDED COVER, IT WOULD BE ONE COVER. THIS IS THE PICKLE BALL TOWARD AREA. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS COMPLETELY FENCED IN AS WELL. HERE ARE THE FENCES AROUND THE COURTS. THE BASKETBALL COURTS FOR THE COVERS, IF COVERS ARE MOVING FORWARD, WE WOULD DO TWO HARD METAL CANOPY COVERS. OR IF WE DID THE SOFTCOVER CANOPIES IT WOULD BE FOUR, ONE OVER EACH SINGLE COURT. THIS WOULD BE FENCED IN ON THESE TWO COURTS AND THIS WOULD BE VENTIG ON THESE TWO PORTS. FOR A TOTAL OF
FOUR BASKETBALL COURTS. >> ADDING THE COVERS? YES, OBVIOUSLY, THE LIGHTING WILL HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED UNDERNEATH THE COVERS TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE LIGHTING. THE COMMUNITY BUILDING, AGAIN, IS NOT PART OF THE RANKING TONIGHT, I STILL WANT TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THAT BUILDING, IT IS 4400 SQUARE FEET. A COUPLE RENDERINGS OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. THIS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THE P RACK. THIS IS THE CANOPY THAT OVERLOOKS THE POND. THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN OF THE BUILDING, AS YOU ENTER THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING THERE ARE RESTROOMS TO THE LEFT, IT DOES HAVE EXTERIOR DOOR ACCESS SO THAT THEY WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL OF THE PARTYGOERS AS WELL. THIS IS THE MEETING SPACE, 2200 SQUARE FEET, THERE IS A SMALL OFFICE AND KITCHENETTE FOR ANYBODY UTILIZING THE ROOM. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME VERY HIGH-LEVEL NUMBERS OF WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO CAPTURE SO FAR, THESE ARE NOT THE FINAL COST, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, WE WILL GO THROUGH THOSE NEGOTIATIONS. WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO GO AHEAD AND PRIORITIZE AND RANK BASED ON HOW OUR NEGOTIATIONS ARE WILL DEPEND ON HOW MANY OF THESE AMENITIES WE CAN DO OR NOT DO AND WE WILL BRING THAT BACK TO
STRATEGIC PLANNING . >> CAN I THROW A WRENCH INTO THIS LIST? I DID NOT THINK ABOUT THIS BEFORE. THIS WILL BE AN UNPROGRAMMED PARK, CORRECT? OKAY. MY ONE CONCERN WITH COVERS ON THE BASKETBALL COURTS IS THAT I WOULD PREFER TO PUT COVERS ON
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THE BASKETBALL COURTS AT PINE TRAIL RATHER THAN THESE BECAUSE THESE WILL NOT BE PROGRAMMED. HAT WOULD BENEFIT MORE OF THE RESIDENCE MORE OFTEN. I THINK HAVING A COVER OVER THE NINJA WARRIOR COURSE WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL ESPECIALLY DURING THE DAY. SO, IN MY OPINION, I'M GOOD WITH ALL OF THAT STUFF, COVER THE PICKLE BALL, THERE'S HARDLY ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HEART AND THE SOFT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE NINJA WARRIOR COURSE COVERED AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US TALK ABOUT ADDING COVERS AT PINE TRAILS PARK RATHER THAN COVERS ON THESE BASKETBALL COURTS. YOU KNOW, $1.4 MILLION FOR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NOT EVEN BE USED AS MUCH , TO ME, I WOULD RATHER SEE IT ON THE NINJA WARRIOR COURSE, WE WANT MORE PEOPLE TO USE THAT,THAT IS JUST MY OPINION. >> TWO THINGS, IF YOU DON'T DO TAT, YOU'LL HAVE ALL OF THE BASKETBALL LEAGUES ASKING TO DO THIS IN BAD WEATHER. IF YOU DO THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WILL HAVE AS MANY BASKETBALL COURTS HERE. YOU KNOW.
>> 100%. I UNDERSTAND, I AGREE WITH YOU. I DO THINK THAT WILL GIVE US THE ONLY COVERED COURTS AROUND.
>> I DO UNDERSTAND. >> I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE NINJA COURSE, I DID NOT THINK ABOUT THIS BEFORE. WE HAVE A CHALLENGE WHERE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF TEENAGERS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. OCCASIONALLY, THEY GET INTO TROUBLE, IS THERE SOME WAY, A LOT OF THE TEAMS, A LOT OF THE ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS MIGHT BE CATERED TO THEM? IS THERE A WAY TO SUBSTITUTE AN ELEMENT? OR PUT SOME KIND OF MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAIL AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF IT?
>> THERE IS A TRAIL AROUND THE BALLPARK. THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO RIDE AROUND THE PARK. ONE OF THE PLUSES, BECAUSE IT WILL NOT BE PROGRAMMED, A LOT OF KIDS CAN GO THERE AND PLAY BASKETBALL AND WHATEVER THEY WANT, THEY CAN MESS AROUND ON THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, NOW THEY HAVE A HARD TIME DOING A LOT OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE THE PARKS ARE OVER PROGRAMMED. I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, YOU ARE TRYING TO GIVE THEM MORE STUFF, I THINK THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FISH, RIDE THEIR BIKES AROUND THE WHOLE THING.
>> A DIRT PATH AROUND THE NATURE AREA AROUND FOR E-BIKES AND
THINGS LIKE THAT. >> I AM A LITTLE HESITANT ABOUT ENCOURAGING THAT. IF THEY WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO IT, THAT IS ONE THING. ENCOURAGING IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING ALTOGETHER
DIFFERENT. >> IT IS MORE OF A TAKE AWAY THAN AN AD. PERSONALLY, I HAD A BANK SHOT AND A PARK OR PLAYGROUND GOING UP AT MY SCHOOL. IT WAS NOVELTY AND THEN NO ONE PLAITED AGAIN. PERSONALLY, LOCATION WISE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM REMOVED AND HAVE A COUPLE GAZEBOS WITH SOME PICNIC TABLES. I THINK WHAT IS MISSING IN THIS WHOLE THING, A LOT OF STUFF TO DO. WHETHER YOU HAVE A COVERED BASKETBALL COURT OR NOT, YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMEWHERE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND GET OUT OF THE SUN. THEY DO NOT ALWAYS WANT TO RENT OUT THE
ROOM ALL THE TIME. >> THERE ARE SIX THROUGHOUT THE PARK. THERE IS ONE BY THE SPLASH PAD, ONE AT THE BASKETBALL COURT, ONE BY THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD, ONE OVER BY THE PLAYGROUND AREA, THEY ARE SCATTERED AROUND THE PARK, THERE ARE SIX PAVILIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
>> THE SPLASH PAD, THAT IS MORE FOR SOMEONE TO RENT OUT, NOT JUST DEDICATED TO PEOPLE USING THE SPLASH PAD?
>> THEY WILL BE LIKE ALL OF THE GAZEBOS, DURING THE WEEK THEY ARE OPEN FIRST COME FIRST SERVE, IF PEOPLE WANT TO RENT THEM FOR PARTIES, THEY HAVE THAT ABILITY.
>> HAVING THE IDEA WHERE PEOPLE CAN CONGREGATE, NOT JUST A SINGLE ACTIVITY, PEOPLE WILL BE IN THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD.
SOMEONE WILL BE OUT BY WHATEVER.
>> TIER POINT, TO THE BANK SHOT, ALL OF THESE EXTRA THINGS ARE EXTRA. YOU KNOW, IF WE VOTE TO FOREGO BANK SHOT , THAT DOES NOT AFFECT YOUR DRAWINGS, THAT WILL JUST BECOME OPEN SPACE.
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>> HE WOULD RANK THAT, PROBABLY THE LAST ONE ON HIS LIST BECAUSE
THAT IS HIS DESIGN. >> I WONDER IF WE CAN JUST COME TO A CONSENSUS AND JUST RANK ON THE LIST.
>> THAT IS MY WORRY. I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE SPLASH PAD. WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT ANYWHERE ELSE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO BE AT THE VILLAGE, WE DON'T KNOW YET.
>> IF WE DID ANOTHER ONE -- >> WE WILL WANT DEDICATED SPACE FOR THE CITY, THAT WILL RAISE THE ISSUE ABOUT THE BUILDING. I WOULD THINK THAT THE BANK SHOT AND WERE THERE ELEMENTS WILL BE USED INITIALLY, WILL BECOME SORT OF PLAYED OUT. I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHER CITIES USE THAT MANY VILLAGE, OVER TIME IF IT
CONTINUES TO GET USED. >> IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY YOUNG KIDS ANYMORE AND DOES NOT GET USED, WE CAN CHANGE IT TO
WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE. >> I CAN GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, IT BECAME PART OF THIS PARK. AND PART OF THIS ELEMENT. IT WOULD ALLOW DISABLED, ABLE, ALL RANGE OF AGE GROUPS TO COME TOGETHER AND PLAY JOINTLY. THERE ARE TWO OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE THE BANK COURT SYSTEM WITHOUT THEIR CITIES. THE INFORMATION THEY PROVIDED BACK IS THAT IT DOES CONTINUE TO GET UTILIZED. THEY DO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT INTERACTION AND GAMEPLAYING AND SO FORTH. THERE ARE ONLY TWO OTHER CITIES IN BROWARD COUNTY THAT HAVE THOSE IN THEIR PARKS, WE WOULD BE THE THIRD IN BROWARD COUNTY.
>> WE WOULD TAKE THE BASKETBALL COURTS OR SOMETHING AND PUT A
SMALLER BANK SHOT ELEMENT? >> TO ME, WE HAVE ALREADY DESIGNED THIS, NOT TOO BIG OF AN ELEMENT WHERE IT WILL MAKE OR BREAK THE PARK. IT GIVES THE ALTERNATIVE.
>> I WILL JUST THROW IT IN THERE.
>> I'M NOT SAYING THAT, WE ARE GOING TO RANK EVERYTHING AND COME BACK WITH STRATEGIC PLANNING.
>> IF IT IS EITHER WAR AND IT IS LOWER ON THE LIST, IS THERE A WAY TO STILL INCORPORATE THAT? BUILDING A BASKETBALL COURT WILL
COST SOME FEE. >> IF YOU ARE BUILDING ONE, BUILDING TWO, BUILDING THREE, BUILDING FOUR.
>> THIS HAS BEEN ABOUT 10 FAMILIES. THEY HAVE THAT AGE OF KATE. UNIVERSALLY, RANKING THEM IN THAT ORDER, THEY WANTED THOSE FIRST. DOWN THE LIST WERE THE COVERS. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SPLASH PAD, THE NINJA PLAY VILLAGE ON THE NINJA COURSE TOWER. THOSE WERE THE THREE THAT UNIVERSALLY THEY ARE SOMETHING NEW AND SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT THEY LIKED. THE COVERS, THEY PUT ON THE LIST A LITTLE BIT. TO BE HONEST, THE IDEA OF ARTIFICIAL TURF IS NOT SOMETHING I'M REALLY FOND OF ESPECIALLY IN A
PARK LIKE THIS. >> IF YOU POLLED THE RESIDENTS OF PARKLAND, THEY WANT ALL OF THE FIELDS WITH TURF.
>> THEY WANT PROGRAMMED EVENTS.
>> HAS AN UNPROGRAMMED PARK, THIS MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US. WE HAVE A LOT OF GRASS. OF COURSE, WE HAVE A LOT OF GRASS.
MY INCLINATION WOULD BE TO RANK ITSEVENTH ON THE LIST.
>> LET'S DO THE RANKING FIRST.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. ARE WE ON THE SAME PAGE? I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS THAT I DID NOT THINK OF BEFORE, APOLOGIES.
NUMBER ONE, THE NOISE BUFFER, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT PICKLE BALL, I HAVE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THIS. WHAT IS THE PLAN WITH THAT?
>> WE HAVE FOUND SOME OF THE SCREENING AND NETTING THAT DOES SOME NOISE BUFFER FOR PICKLE BALL. WE ARE STILL LOOKING INTO THAT. IT IS JUST A NETTING YOU WILL SEE AROUND A TENNIS COURT.
WE CAN ADD THAT COMPONENT. ALL THE RESEARCH WE HAVE SHOWN SO FORTH, THE DISTANCE FROM THE CLOSEST HOME TO THE PICKLE BALL COURTS FROM HERE, WHETHER THAT IS ADDED OR NOT, THAT WILL NOT MAKE THAT BIG OF A SOUND BARRIER. THAT DISTANCE IS PRETTY
GREAT TO THE CLOSEST HOME. >> TO THE COVERS HELP AT ALL
WITH NOISE? I HAVE NO IDEA. >> IT WILL HELP.
>> YEAH. LAST ONE, THE TOWER, WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AROUND, IT IS SO COOL TO LOOK ACROSS THE CITY. WOULD THERE BE ANY ISSUE WITH RESIDENTS FEELING ABOUT PRIVACY?
>> WITH THE DESIGN THAT IS THE FEEDBACK THAT WE DID GET, THAT IS WHY IT IS TWO STORIES AND JUST BELOW 31 FEET.
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>> THE RANKING, IS THE CONSENSUS TO PULL THE COVERING FOR THE BASKETBALL COURTS OUT TO LOOK TO ANOTHER PROJECT?
>> HOW ABOUT COVERING THE NINJA WARRIOR COURSE?
>> I WAS GOING TO COME BACK TO THAT CONVERSATION. WE ARE AT 100% CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT. I CAN EXPLORE CONVERSATIONS TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO CHANGE ANY OF THAT TYPE OF STRUCTURE. AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE AN ASSESSMENT IF WE ARE ABLE TO DO
IT OR NOT. >> EITHER OR, I DON'T KNOW IF
THE TOWER IS. >> FOR ME, I WOULD PREFER NOT TO DO ANY COVER ON THE BASKETBALL COURT. AND JUST REPLACE THAT WITH THE COVER FOR THE NINJA WARRIOR.
>> PEOPLE WANT TO PICK UP GAMES WITH THE COVERED BASKETBALL
COURTS. >> IF IT IS UNPROGRAMMED, HOW MUCH IS IT BEING USED FOR $1 MILLION?
>> THAT IS THE CATCH-22 RIGHT HERE. WE WANTED TO BE UNPROGRAMMED, THEN WE USE IT AS AN EXCUSE AT CERTAIN POINTS HERE. WE LEAN INTO IT, THIS PROGRAM.
>> YOU SAID IT WAS TOO EXPENSIVE.
>> I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT BEING TOO EXPENSIVE. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE. HER TEAMS TO CONGREGATE. THIS IS A VERY BIG PARK. YES, YOUTH WILL HAVE A
GAZEBO ON THE FAR CORNER. >> SOMETHING FISCALLY
RESPONSIBLE. >> WE ALREADY DECIDED WE ARE NOT DOING THEM ALL. OTHERWISE WE WOULD NOT BE RANKING THEM. WE
WOULD BE DOING THEM ALL. >> JUST BECAUSE WE ARE RANKING SOMETHING SEVENTH DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT.
>> AT STRATEGIC PLANNING, WE WILL CALCULATE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE. IF WE CAN AND CAN AFFORD, WE WILL LOOK AT WHAT WE WANT TO ADD TO THIS PARK IS IN ADDITION. I'M HOPING WE CAN AFFORD EVERYTHING. THE ONLY OPTION WE DON'T HAVE IS ANYTHING REDESIGNING. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH NUMEROUS PROCESSES.
HAVING A COVER OVER THE BASKETBALL COURTS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE COVERS OVER THE BASKETBALL COURTS THAT ARE USED BY OUR LEADS THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE. TO ME THAT IS A GREAT RECOMMENDATION THAT WILL NOT REQUIRE ANY CHANGE TO THE EXISTING PLANS. WE CAN ADD COVERS ALPINE TRAILS PARK AND DO NOT PUT THEM HERE OR DO WE PUT THE SHADE COVERS? YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THOSE ARE THE DISCUSSIONS I'M HOPING TO HAVE FURTHER WITH YOU ALL AT STRATEGIC PLANNING.
>> I THINK WE WOULD GET MORE. I DID NOT THINK TO ASK. THE BANK SHOT WAS COVERED. I JUST KIND OF THOUGHT THAT. I DID NOT THINK TO
ASK. >> CHRISTINE WOLF CHECK WITH THE DESIGNERS IF THAT IS AND INCURRING REGIONAL COST FOR
THOSE PLANS. >> AS WELL AS THE TIME FRAMES.
>> WE WILL LOOK AT THAT FOR STRATEGIC PLANNING.
>> AS FAR AS THE BANK SHOT, I'M NOT MARRIED TO THE BANK SHOT AND I AM INTERESTED IN HAVING DIFFERENT THINGS. I'M NOT MARRIED TO THAT. ONLY BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE COVERS ALPINE TRAILS. IF WE CAN DO BOTH, THAT IS GREAT.
>> YOU CAN DO PROGRAMMED AND UNPROGRAMMED.
>> RIGHT. RIGHT. >> CHRISTINE, DO YOU HAVE THE TALLY? THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT, CONFIRMATION, THIS SUMMARY IS THE HIGHEST RANK, RIGHT, JACKIE? IN FIRST PLACE, NINJA COURSE AND THE TOWER. RANKING SECOND WOULD BE THE SPLASH PAD AND RANKING
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THIRD WOULD BE THE MINI PLAY VILLAGE. ONE, TWO, THREE, THERE ARE TWO TOEWS. NUMBER ONE IS THE NINJA COURSE AND NUMBER TWO IS A TIE BETWEEN THE SPLASH PAD AND PICKLE BALL COVERS. THE PREFERENCE ON THE COVERS WOULD BE HARD. OKAY?>> MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THE PICKLE BALL, I'M JUST CURIOUS, WOULDN'T A METAL COVER ECHO? IF THAT SOUND IS A LOT, WILL THAT MAGNIFY SOUND WHEN THE SOFTCOVER WILL DAMPEN IT?
>> YES. GOING BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF COVER, A METAL COVER WILL PROVIDE MORE ECHOING IN THE
PLAYING SURFACE AREA INSIDE. >> YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE PLAYING AT ONE TIME. IT WILL SOUND LIKE A WAR GOING ON.
>> I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH THE SOUND OUTSIDE.
>> WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF A HARDCOVER VERSUS SOFTCOVER? I MEAN THIS. IS IT FOR RAIN? THE SOFTCOVER DOESN'T STOP RAIN?
>> THE COURT WILL STILL GET WET.
>> A COVER IS A COVER. IT IS PERMEATED?
>> NOT PICKLE BALL. >> YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET DRENCHED IF YOU WERE NOT SITTING UNDERNEATH THE COVER BUT THE
WATER DOES SEEP THROUGH. >> THE COVER IS A COVER.
>> THE SOFTCOVER GIVES SHADE AND IF THERE IS A TORNADO OR HURRICANE YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT DOWN. IT IS A LOT MORE MAINTENANCE AND THEY ONLY LAST 2-3 YEARS. THE HARDCOVER IS SO
MUCH BETTER. >> THAT WAS NOT WHAT WAS
PRESENTED. >> YOUR CHOICES ARE SOFT OR
HARD. THAT'S IT. >> I'M SURE SOME OF THE COVERS HAVE A LITTLE INSULATION IN THEM. THAT WOULD HELP WITH IT.
>> NOW YOU ARE TALKING SOUND BARRIER, THAT DOUBLES THE PRICE.
>> YOU HAVE THE PEOPLE IN PARKLAND THAT ARE WORRIED ABOUT
HEARING THE PICKLE BALL. >> AND SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES.
JUST ONE OTHER THING, WHEN YOU PRICE OUT THE HARDCOVER PICKLE BALL COURTS, RIGHT, THAT IS AN ESTIMATE. THERE MIGHT BE AN OPTION WHERE THEY HAVE METAL AND RUBBER.
>> THERE IS NOT ANY REDESIGN IF YOU ARE NOT LETTING US.
>> ANY SOUND ABSORPTION FOR THE ROOF, THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS
LIKE THAT. >> I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING WHEN I AM DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY IN MY JEEP.
>> ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON WITH OUR RANKINGS, NUMBER THREE WAS THE MINI PLAY VILLAGE, NUMBER FOUR, IS A TIE ALSO BETWEEN BASKETBALL COVERS, WITH THAT, THE PREFERENCE WOULD BE SOFT. THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD, UPGRADING IT TO THE ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELD.
THE FIFTH THING, WHICH , SURPRISE SURPRISE, WILL BE THE BANK SHOT WHICH I THINK IS HOW YOUR CONVERSATION PLAYED OUT, PRETTY MUCH. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO HAVE A QUICK CONVERSATION IF WE GET DOWN TO A TIE BETWEEN NUMBER FOUR, BASKETBALL COVERS VERSUS ARTIFICIAL TURF.
>> LIKE I SAID, WE WILL KNOW THAT A LOT BETTER WITH THE
STRATEGIC PLAN. YES. >> $502,000 LESS THAN WE CAN DO THE ARTIFICIAL TURF. YEAH, I THINK WE ACHIEVED WHAT WAS SENT
OUT. >> IT IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF YOU TO SEE WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS AND GET A FEEL FOR THE
FEATURES. >> YOU ARE DOING AN AWESOME JOB, I LOVE THE DESIGN, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU LIKE THIS NEW PROCESS, THIS IS A DIFFERENT METHOD TO GETTING THERE. IT SEEMS LIKE THIS WAS MUCH BETTER, YOU WOULD KNOW BETTER.
>> WE CAN EVALUATE WHEN WE GET THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS.
>> THAT IS NOT A YES. >> IT IS NOT A KNOW YET.
>> GOOD STUFF. ALL RIGHT, THEN ARE WE DONE TALKING? OH. IS THAT IT? ADJOURNED? OH, I CAN'T. A MOTION?
>> MOTION TO ADJOURN. >>
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.