Jan 15, 2025 City Commission Meeting

I KNOW. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I WOULD LIKE TO START THIS REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING FOR THE CITY OF PARKLAND ON WEDNESDAY,

[1. Call to Order]

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I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE.

DELIVER US. ROLL CALL, COMMISSIONER MURPHY. SOLOMON HERE, VICE MAYOR ISRAEL HERE. MAYOR WALKER HERE.

COMMISSIONER BRIER HERE. AND COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN HERE.

THANK YOU. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. MOTION TO APPROVE.

[4. Approval of Minutes]

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PLEASE SHOW PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COMMENTS BY THE PUBLIC ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS.

[5. Comments from the Public on Non-Agenda Items]

SEEING THAT THERE IS NONE WE'LL GO TO COMMENTS BY THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

WE'LL START WITH YOU COMMISSIONER BRIER. SURE.

THANK YOU MAYOR. FIRST I WANT TO FORMALLY WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY AND HEALTHY 2025.

IT'S PROBABLY AT THE CUTOFF OF WHEN I CAN STOP SAYING HAPPY NEW YEAR, BUT WE'LL GET IN ONE LAST ONE.

I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A GOOD HOLIDAY SEASON. I WANT TO AS ALWAYS, THANK OUR PARKS AND REC STAFF FOR PUTTING ON SOME AMAZING EVENTS IN THE CITY.

WE HAD OUR SNOW FEST. WE HAD OUR FAMILY CARNIVAL.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE FARMER'S MARKET COMING UP AGAIN THIS SUNDAY WITH OUR BUSINESS EXPO AND PUBLIC SAFETY DAY.

INDIAN PRINCESSES IS HAVING THEIR ANNUAL COOK OFF THIS SATURDAY, WHICH IS ALWAYS A GREAT TIME.

IT'S AN EVENT I'M BORN FOR. AND THEN ON MONDAY WE HAVE OUR MONDAY OF NEXT WEEK.

WE HAVE OUR MARTIN LUTHER KING TRIBUTE EVENT AT 530 AT PINE TRAILS PARK, AND I HOPE EVERYONE CAN COME OUT TO THAT.

I ALSO WANT TO MAKE NOTE, AND I'M SURE WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT MORE AS WE GET TO THE AGENDA ITEMS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE NOTE THAT TONIGHT WE ARE SELECTING THE VOLUNTEERS TO SERVE ON OUR ADVISORY BOARDS. LET ME START BY SAYING THAT EACH TIME WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, I AM JUST OVERWHELMED BY NOT ONLY THE QUANTITY OF THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE WILLING TO SACRIFICE OF THEIR TIME AND GIVE SERVICE TO THE CITIES, BUT I'M ALWAYS JUST ABSOLUTELY ASTONISHED WITH THE CALIBER OF THE APPLICANTS. WE HAVE SO MANY HIGHLY REGARDED PROFESSIONALS EXECUTIVES.

EXPERIENCED FOLKS AND MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WITH AMAZING CREDENTIALS WHO WANT TO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME AND CONSIDERABLE SKILLS IN THE SERVICE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO SELECT EVERYONE I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS TONIGHT, BUT IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A BLESSING AND A CURSE THAT WE'VE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE SO QUALIFIED TO SERVE AND, AND UNABLE TO FIND A SPOT FOR ALL OF THEM.

BUT I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVE SERVED, WHO HAVE APPLIED TO SERVE AND WILL SERVE GOING FORWARD.

WITH THAT, MAYOR, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. FIRST I WANT TO START OFF BY WISHING EVERYBODY A HAPPY NEW YEAR IS OUR FIRST MEETING SINCE WE'VE ROLLED THE CALENDAR OVER TO 2025.

SO I THINK WE'VE GOT A GREAT YEAR AHEAD. I WANT TO ALSO WISH OUR OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER SUWANDI A VERY, VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY. THE FAMILY FUN CARNIVAL WAS FANTASTIC.

YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THERE'S SOMETHING OLD SCHOOL ABOUT A REALLY WELL DONE CARNIVAL. AND THIS MET EVERY EVERY BIT OF THAT.

THE THE PARKS AND REC STAFF AGAIN KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK WITH THE CARNIVAL.

IT IT WAS FANTASTIC. I TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE BOOK SALE THAT'S GOING ON AT THE LIBRARY ONCE A MONTH.

ANYONE WHO KNOWS ME KNOWS HOW HAPPY I WAS TO FIND A COUPLE OF BOOKS OF MEATBALL RECIPES THAT I'M GOING TO ENJOY AND UTILIZE AND TAKE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING IT AGAIN AT THE LIBRARY FEBRUARY 8TH AND THEN AGAIN ON MARCH 15TH.

THERE'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY THERE, SO CHECK IT OUT.

IT SUPPORTS THE LIBRARY. IT SUPPORTS FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY.

IT'S A GREAT CAUSE. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE NORTHWEST COUNCIL OF ELECTED OFFICIALS, HOSTED BY MARGATE THIS THIS PAST WEEK. AND IT WAS REALLY GREAT TO GET TOGETHER WITH SOME OF THE OFFICIALS OF THE SURROUNDING CITIES THAT THAT WE ARE PARTNERS WITH AND WE THAT WE WORK WITH ON, ON MANY THINGS.

THE, THE PROBLEM OF HOMELESSNESS WAS ONE THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN GREAT DETAIL AS WELL AS UTILIZING SECURITY, SAFETY. AND I WITH WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE AS FAR AS THREATS THAT COULD THAT COULD THREATEN CITY COMPUTER SYSTEMS AND ALL AND ALL OF THAT.

IT WAS VERY, VERY USEFUL AND VERY HELPFUL. AND I THANK THE CITY OF MARGATE FOR FOR HOSTING IT.

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I REALLY WISH THAT WE HAD A PLACE FOR EVERYBODY ON THERE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

AND I JUST WANT TO CLOSE BY JUST HAVING A MOMENT OF OF SUPPORT AND CONDOLENCE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT ARE SUFFERING OUT IN CALIFORNIA WITH THE FIRES.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HITS COMMUNITIES AND AND IT IT HITS COMMUNITIES IN WAYS THAT THEY WON'T EVER RECOVER FROM.

AND WE FEEL IT HERE. AND I WAS WISHING THERE WAS MORE WE COULD DIRECTLY DO TO HELP.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE WE'RE HERE IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER MURPHY. SALIMBENI.

THANKS, MAYOR. SO ALREADY, SO MANY THINGS HAVE BEEN SAID.

AND YEAH, I'LL WISH A HAPPY NEW YEAR, A HAPPY 2025 HEALTHY, I THINK IS IS THE PRIORITY.

AND DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO A GREAT YEAR.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY. SUWANDA. I WAS GOING TO START WITH THE CALIFORNIA THE RESIDENTS OUT THERE.

AND OF COURSE, WE ALL HAVE, I THINK, HAVE BEEN TOUCHED BY IT, NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S A HORRENDOUS TRAGEDY, BUT ALSO BECAUSE MANY OF US HAVE FRIENDS, FAMILY, COWORKERS THAT ARE DEALING WITH JUST HORRENDOUS CONDITIONS.

SO I DO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN. YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO DO MORE TO HELP.

YOU FEEL HELPLESS. BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S DEFINITELY WAYS TO HELP AND TRYING TO SEIZE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

A LOT OF THINGS SAID ABOUT GREAT EVENTS WE'VE HAD IN OUR CITY, THE FARMERS MARKET HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

THAT ONE WAS A GREAT THEME. LOVED THAT CHAMBER MEETING.

ALWAYS AN AWESOME OPPORTUNITY. I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH THAT IF IF YOU ARE A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN PARTICULAR AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO NETWORK AND TO MEET PEOPLE, DEFINITELY CONSIDER JOINING. I'M ALSO LOOKING FORWARD TO THE INDIAN PRINCESS COOK-OFF AT, I DON'T KNOW, COMMISSIONER, IF I WAS BORN FOR IT, BUT MY HUSBAND WAS IN INDIAN PRINCESS AND HE LOVED IT.

AND I ALWAYS KIND OF WANTED TO BE A FLY ON THE WALL TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE.

SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING PART OF THAT COOK-OFF AND JUDGING THAT.

YEAH. AND VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO THE TRIBUTE FOR MLK NEXT MONDAY.

DEFINITELY. THE ELECTED OFFICIALS COUNCIL LUNCHEON WAS AWESOME THIS WEEK, AND WE ARE PARKLAND HOSTING THAT FOR THE NEXT TIME, SO THAT'S EXCITING. AND I DO ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE AMAZING, IMPRESSIVE VOLUNTEERS THAT HAVE PUT THEMSELVES OUT THERE AND APPLIED FOR THESE BOARD POSITIONS. YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WAS SO IMPRESSIVE AND DEFINITELY APPRECIATED.

AND I THINK WITH THAT MAYOR THAT'S THAT'S IT.

I LOVED THE LIBRARY TOO, THOUGH. I LOVE MY BOOKS AND GIVING THEM AS GIFTS.

THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK. WELCOME BACK EVERYONE.

HAPPY NEW YEAR. SO. AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE, BUT HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

I'LL GET YOU A CAKE LATER. I WON'T GO INTO. YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYONE'S KIND OF COVERED A LOT.

I WILL TAKE A MINUTE, THOUGH, TO TALK ABOUT CALIFORNIA THAT, YOU KNOW, SEEMINGLY BECOMING MORE AND MORE COMMON TO WATCH SOME OF THESE DISASTERS.

WHETHER IT'S NATURAL DISASTER OR MAN MADE. I'M NOT EVEN SURE.

BUT THE SCALE OF THESE THINGS ARE BECOMING SO GRANDIOSE AND HORRIFIC THAT IT REALLY IS INCUMBENT ON ALL OF US TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY SAY IT TAKES A VILLAGE AND, YOU KNOW, TO BE THERE AND SUPPORT YOUR NEIGHBORS, REGARDLESS OF THE STATE, WHETHER IT'S IN YOUR CITY, HOMETOWN, WHATEVER, TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S DONATIONS OF CLOTHES, MONEY. THERE'S A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE RAISING FUNDS TO EVEN HAVE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LOST EVERYTHING. I MEAN, YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE YOU SIT HERE AND YOU ACQUIRE THINGS FOR YOUR WHOLE LIFE, BUILDING A LIFE FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY, ONLY TO FIND ONE DAY THAT IT'S ALL TAKEN FROM YOU. SO, YOU KNOW, I AGREE AND ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO TO, YOU KNOW, FIND YOUR HEART TO DO WHAT YOU CAN TO SUPPORT THOSE IN NEED. TODAY IS ALSO A PRETTY IMPORTANT DAY, I WOULD SAY. JUST THE NEWS BREAKING ABOUT A CEASE FIRE THAT'S BEEN REACHED BETWEEN ISRAEL AND HAMAS.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S STILL A LOT MORE THAT REMAINS TO BE DONE WITH THE HOPEFULLY THE INTENTION OF 33 HOSTAGES BEING RETURNED.

AND WHILE IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYTHING I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE HOPING FOR IN TERMS OF A FINALITY AND HAVING EVERYONE RETURNED.

IT'S A GREAT START. SO I KNOW, I KNOW, THIS IS GOING TO BE A A TUMULTUOUS KIND OF ROAD IN THE PROCESS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THERE'S EVEN, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT AND AND HAVING A PLAN.

SO I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. I'M PRAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE WHO ARE RETURNED ARE, YOU KNOW,

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MLK TRIBUTE EVENT. I ALWAYS AM APPRECIATIVE OF THE WAY THE CITY HOSTS THAT AND ORGANIZES IT.

I THINK NOW MORE THAN EVER, THE SENTIMENT OF MLK, OF, YOU KNOW, JUDGING OTHERS BY THE CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER AND NOT, YOU KNOW, THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN OR WHATEVER ELSE MAY BE NOW IS PROBABLY MORE POIGNANT THAN EVER, JUST BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE HAVE A HARD TIME OF FINDING COMMON GROUND AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S POLITICS, RELIGION, WHATEVER IDEOLOGY OR BELIEFS, I THINK THAT RESONATES IN A WAY IN MODERN DAY, YOU KNOW, JUST AS MUCH, IF NOT MORE SO THAN IT DID IN THE PAST.

SO I HOPE EVERYONE CAN KIND OF ADHERE TO THAT SENTIMENT AND KIND OF CARRY IT FORWARD.

IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD THING. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, AS I SIT HERE TODAY, MY BROTHER AND SISTER IN LAW ARE ACTUALLY IN THE HOSPITAL WAITING ON A BABY. SO ANY MINUTE I WILL PROBABLY BE GETTING A TEXT MESSAGE.

UNFORTUNATELY, I WON'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO WISH THEM ALL THE BEST. AND CONGRATULATIONS TO A NEW BABY LILY AND ISRO GUYS. AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU MAYOR. GREAT. CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO SWAN.

I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO MUCH OF WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DID AS FAR AS THE EVENTS ARE CONCERNED.

BUT YES, HAPPY NEW YEAR. LOOKING FORWARD TO 2025.

OBVIOUSLY OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE THOSE ARE WITH THOSE IN CALIFORNIA.

I DO JUST WANT TO REITERATE PARKLAND DAY. I WAS AT THE I WAS DOING SOME PROMOTIONAL VIDEOS FOR PARKLAND DAY.

SO YOU'LL GET TO SEE ME OUT THERE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

IN MY BEST PIRATE VOICE. I'M NOT GOING TO INSULT YOU WITH THAT.

NOW YOU'LL GET TO. YOU'LL HAVE TO SEE IT ON ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

I'M SURE IT WILL BE BE THERE SHORTLY, BUT PARKLAND DAY IS MARCH 8TH.

WE HAVE A T SHIRT CONTEST. AGAIN, IT'S A PIRATE THEME.

SO WE HAVE A T SHIRT CONTEST. THOSE DESIGNS ARE DUE ON THE 17TH AND THEN ON FEBRUARY 19TH, FEBRUARY 4TH. YOU WOULD THINK I WOULD REMEMBER EVERYTHING.

FEBRUARY 4TH. THE APPLICATIONS ARE DUE FOR. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DO A FLOAT FEBRUARY 4TH WOULD BE THE DUE DATE FOR ENTERING A FLOAT.

FEBRUARY 19TH IS THE DATE TO ENTER IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS.

IF YOU HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS AND YOU WANT TO PROMOTE YOUR BUSINESS WITH A TABLE AT OUR PARKLAND DAY EVENT, IT'S A GREAT EVENT TO GET YOUR NAME OUT THERE.

THAT'S APPLICATIONS ARE FEBRUARY 19TH. CHECK OUR WEBSITE BECAUSE I'M NOT 100% SURE ON THOSE DATES, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY PARKLAND DAY IS MARCH 8TH.

SO WITH THAT, EVERYBODY, LET'S GO DOWN TO THE WELL AND WE'LL DO SOME PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.

[6. Proclamations and Recognitions]

MR.. ESSER, PLEASE.

ALL OF YOU CAN COME DOWN. HI THERE.

DON'T BE SHY. SO FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE SERIOUS BASEBALL FANS, WE MIGHT THINK WE KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT MAJOR LEAGUE MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL, BUT WE HAVE AN OUTSTANDING ELEMENTARY STUDENT HERE WITH US TODAY WHO MIGHT TEACH US A THING OR TWO.

HERON HEIGHTS ELEMENTARY SECOND GRADER PENELOPE MILLION IS NOT ONLY A BASEBALL FAN, BUT SHE'S ALSO A CHAMPION ATHLETE IN HER OWN RIGHT.

AND SHE WAS RECENTLY RECOGNIZED BY A MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL PROGRAM FOR YOUNG ATHLETES.

EVERY YEAR, MLB HOSTS A COMPETITION CALLED PITCH, HIT AND RUN FOR YOUNG SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL PLAYERS IN DIFFERENT AGE DIVISIONS.

THE KIDS ARE SCORED ON THEIR RUNNING TIME, PITCHING ACCURACY, AND HITTING DISTANCES.

PENELOPE EARNED HER TITLE BY STARTING LOCALLY IN MARCH OF 2024.

AFTER EMPLOYING HARD WORK, LOTS OF PRACTICE AND DETERMINATION, SHE WON SEVERAL LOCAL AND REGIONAL COMPETITIONS REPRESENTING THE MIAMI MARLINS.

THIS YEAR, MORE THAN 60,000 KIDS COMPETED IN HUNDREDS OF LOCAL COMPETITIONS TO EARN ONE OF FOUR SPOTS IN THE 30 MLB STADIUMS FOR THE TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP.

ACCORDING TO THE MLB, FINALISTS ARE CONSIDERED THE 1% OF THE 1% OF YOUTH ATHLETES WHO COMPETED IN SEPTEMBER.

PENELOPE WAS INVITED BY MLB TO REPRESENT THE MARLINS IN THE MLB PITCH HIT AND RUN FINALS IN THE WORLD SERIES AT DODGER STADIUM IN NOVEMBER 2024.

SHE COMPETED AT DODGER STADIUM AND EARNED SECOND PLACE ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL IN HER DIVISION AND AGE GROUP.

PENELOPE. AMAZING. YOU ARE A TRUE ATHLETE AND ONE TO WATCH AS YOU GROW IN YOUR SOFTBALL CAREER.

ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND COMMISSION, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AT MARLINS PARK AND DODGER STADIUM.

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CAN I GET EVERYBODY TO SQUEEZE TOGETHER AND LOOK THIS WAY? HOLD THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK. YOU. THANK YOU. WOW. SORRY.

THANK YOU. OH, YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO.

OKAY, SO THIS IS CITY OF PARKLAND PROCLAMATION RELATED TO THE NATIONAL SLAVERY AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING PREVENTION MONTH.

ACROSS THE WORLD, MORE THAN 27 MILLION PEOPLE, INCLUDING THOUSANDS HERE AT HOME, ARE SUBJECTED TO THE SHAMEFUL, ABHORRENT ABUSE OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND FORCED LABOR, ACCORDING TO THE US DEPARTMENT OF STATE.

AND WHEREAS, IN 2010, BY PRESIDENTIAL PROCLAMATION, PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA DECLARED JANUARY THE NATIONAL SLAVERY AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING PREVENTION MONTH, AND EVERY YEAR SINCE, EACH PRESIDENT HAS FOLLOWED THIS TRADITION.

AND WHEREAS IN 2023, GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS SIGNED SENATE BILL 1690 INTO LAW, WHICH ENHANCED REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO EDUCATION AND AWARENESS MATERIALS IN YOUTH RESIDENTIAL SETTINGS, AS WELL AS AUTHORIZING THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES TO CREATE A CERTIFICATION PROGRAM FOR ADULT SAFE HOMES. AND WHEREAS THERE ARE 2137 REPORTS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING REPORTED TO THE FLORIDA ABUSE HOTLINE IN 20 2324 FISCAL YEAR, ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.

AND OF THAT NUMBER, 1592 INVOLVED CHILDREN, AND OF THE 2137 REPORTED, 91.95% INSTANCES WERE CODED AS LABOR TRAFFICKING.

AND THE BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE INTERNAL CRIMES AGAINST HUMAN CHILDREN AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING UNIT IS A DEDICATED TO IDENTIFYING INSTANCES OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

RESCUING VICTIMS AND EMPOWERING COMMUNITIES TO JOIN THE FIGHT AGAINST THIS HEINOUS CRIME.

THE CITY OF PARKLAND IS COMMITTED TO OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH BSO PARKLAND DISTRICT AND MAINTAINING PUBLIC SAFETY FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY, AND BELIEVE THAT STRONG COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS ARE CRITICAL TO MAINTAINING A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL.

SO WE ARE NAMING OR THE PROCLAMATION IS THE NATIONAL HUMAN TRAFFICKING PREVENTION MONTH.

AS THE CITY OF PARKLAND. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

I'M SORRY. YES. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. CAPTAIN MCARDLE.

CITY OF PARKLAND. I'M HERE WITH OUR INTERNET CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN AND OUR HUMAN TRAFFICKING UNIT.

THIS IS THE DETECTIVE SERGEANT ERIC ARAKI. AND ALSO WE HAVE DETECTIVE CHRIS HERE AS WELL.

THESE ARE OUR ARE OUR INDIVIDUALS THAT WORK BEHIND THE SCENES TIRELESSLY TO HANDLE ANY TYPE OF CRIMES THAT ARE COMMITTED AGAINST CHILDREN, AGAINST ADULTS THAT ARE INTO FORCED LABOR. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S A TOUGH JOB.

IT'S IT WEARS HEAVY ON THEM, BUT IT IS SUCH A REWARDING JOB.

BECAUSE THEY REALLY ARE ON THE FRONT LINES OF STOPPING ABUSE AND STOPPING THE TRAFFICKING OF THESE INDIVIDUALS.

SO I'M PLEASED THAT THEY'RE HERE TODAY. THEY'RE PART OF THE BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE, LIKE I SAID, UNIT. THEY WORK OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT, AND THEY OFFER SERVICES WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND THE OTHER CITIES OF THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY OF BROWARD.

SO THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT. THANK YOU. CAN I GET EVERYBODY THIS FASHION AGAIN? YOU DON'T GET TO DO THAT. LOOK AT. LOOK AT THAT.

EVERYBODY RIGHT HERE. IGNORE THE FIREFIGHTER TO MY LEFT.

OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK.

YOU. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. ALEX. YES, SIR.

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I DIDN'T WANT TO GET MY. I DIDN'T WANT TO GET FINGERPRINTS ALL OVER IT.

WHEN YOU VOLUNTEER YOUR TIME, YOU ARE MAKING A TRUE STATEMENT ABOUT THE VALUE YOU PLACE ON THE WORK YOU ARE DOING.

AND WHILE VOLUNTEERING FOR A FEW YEARS IS COMMENDABLE, DOING SO FOR 17 YEARS IS ANOTHER THING ALTOGETHER.

HOWARD WEINER BEGAN VOLUNTEERING AS A MEMBER OF THE CITY'S PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD IN 2008, AND HE LATER MOVED INTO THE LEADERSHIP ROLE AS CHAIR OF THE ADVISORY BOARD.

HOWARD HAS SIGNIFICANTLY CONTRIBUTED TO NUMEROUS PARK IMPROVEMENTS AND GRANT INITIATIVES.

CITY STAFF SAY THAT HOWARD'S EFFORTS HAVE SECURED VITAL FUNDING FOR ENHANCEMENTS AT PINE TRAILS PARK, TERRAMAR PARK, PARKLAND AND LIBERTY PARK, JUST TO NAME A FEW.

BUT MORE RECENTLY, THE NEW WEDGE PRESERVE PARK AND HOWARD'S WORK DID NOT END THERE.

BEYOND PARK IMPROVEMENTS, HE HAS PLAYED A CRUCIAL ROLE IN REFINING THE CITY'S SPORTS POLICIES AND ENHANCING RECREATIONAL PROGRAMING.

HE HAS DEDICATED COUNTLESS HOURS TO VOLUNTEERING IN SPORTS PROGRAMS, JUDGING, HOME DECORATING AND PARADE CONTESTS, AND ASSISTING IN THE SELECTION PROCESS FOR THE PARKLAND DASH AND PUMPKIN PATCH EVENT BENEFICIARIES.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, HOWARD'S LEADERSHIP ON THE PLANNING COMMITTEE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE SUCCESSFUL RETURN OF PARKLAND DAY DURING THE CITY'S 60TH CELEBRATION. HOWARD, YOU HAVE BEEN AN INVALUABLE ASSET TO THE CITY OF PARKLAND PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD AND TO THE CITY ITSELF ON THE BEHALF OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND CITY COMMISSION.

THANK YOU FOR 17 YEARS OF UNWAVERING COMMITMENT AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, I KNOW WE DO THIS.

I'M BREAKING PROTOCOL, BUT COMMISSIONER MAYERSON WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

I'LL GO TO THE PODIUM. HE'S GOING TO GO. YES.

WELL, YEAH. YOU CAN'T. YOU CAN'T COME UP HERE AND TAKE THIS MICROPHONE. BOB MEYERSON, 6742, NORTHWEST 80TH MANOR, PARKLAND. HOWARD, I THINK OBVIOUSLY THE PROCLAMATION SAYS IT ALL, BUT AS MY APPOINTEE FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, I GUESS WE BOTH SAIL OFF AT THE SAME TIME. BUT YOU ARE YOU ARE AN INVALUABLE ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER OF THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD.

YOU WERE ALSO AN INVALUABLE MEMBER FOR, I THINK, 14 OR 15 YEARS OF THE BASKETBALL BOARD.

YOUR TALENT IS JUST PHENOMENAL, AND I THANK YOU FOR SERVING ME AND ADVISING ME, AS WELL AS THE CITY OF PARKLAND AS WELL AS THE PARKS AND REC BOARD. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANKS TO YOUR FAMILY THAT'S HERE AS WELL SUPPORTING YOU.

I KNOW THERE WERE TIMES PROBABLY YOU GUYS WERE HERE LATE AT NIGHT ALL WANTING TO KNOW WHEN YOU'RE COMING HOME.

AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, SPENDING TIME AS BEING A MEMBER OF THE BASKETBALL BOARD OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN, AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT AND WELL DESERVED.

THERE WILL BE NO MORE. THAT'S IT. KEN. KEN. HOLD THAT THOUGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS, GUYS. THANKS AGAIN.

THANK YOU. THANKS AGAIN. SEE YOU. THANK YOU. HOWARD.

THANK. YOU. THANK YOU. THANK.

YOU. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

[7. Approval of the Agenda]

SECOND. NOW EVERYONE JUMPS IN. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER BRIER AND A SECOND BY VICE MAYOR ISRAEL.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PLEASE SHOW IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE DO NOT HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA, SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON NOW TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.

[9. Regular Agenda]

FIRST READING. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA. AMENDING THE CITY OF PARKLAND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE BY AMENDING ARTICLE TEN DISTRICTS TO CREATE DIVISION 85 VILLAGE IN THE PARK DISTRICT AND ESTABLISH A NEW ZONING DISTRICT PROVIDING REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS FOR THE VILLAGE IN THE PARK ZONING DISTRICT

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PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION. CONFLICT SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

OKAY. CAITLIN. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, CAITLIN FORBES WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, FOR THE RECORD. AND PERFECT.

OKAY, SO WE ARE EXTREMELY EXCITED TO BE BEFORE THE COMMISSION TONIGHT WITH THE NEXT STEP IN THE VILLAGE IN THE PARK PROJECT.

TONIGHT, MYSELF, JOHN WARD WITH 505. NOW, COOPER CARRIE WILL BE LEADING THE PRESENTATION FOR YOU, BUT WE ALSO HAVE OUR BRIAN HERBERT AND OUR CITY ARBORIST, PATTY, WHO WERE WHO WERE ALSO INSTRUMENTAL IN PUTTING THE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER THAT ARE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT FOR CONSIDERATION. THERE'S GOING TO BE THREE PARTS TO OUR PRESENTATION, AND WE DO ASK, IF POSSIBLE, THAT YOU HOLD YOUR QUESTIONS FOR THE END, BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE AN ANSWER TO ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND ONE OF THE SEGMENTS OF THE PRESENTATION LATER ON. SO WE'LL START WITH A QUICK BACKGROUND IN SUMMARY.

AND THEN JOHN WILL GET UP TO THE PODIUM AND PODIUM AND PRESENT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT YOU'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES WITH DIFFERENT ITERATIONS SO FAR. SO YOU SHOULD BE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THEM.

AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE NEW TEXT TO ESTABLISH THE VILLAGE IN THE PARK ZONING DISTRICT.

TO WRAP UP THE PRESENTATION. SO, OF COURSE, THE QUESTION OF HOW DID WE GET HERE AND WHERE ARE WE GOING? I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THAT PROCESS SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT IN THIS PRETTY LONG PROCESS.

BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY MAKING GOOD HEADWAY, AND WE'RE WELL ON OUR WAY TO THE EXCITING PART OF GETTING TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND SEE SOME SOME DIFFERENT PLAN OPTIONS HERE.

SO A LOT OF GOOD WORK HAS GONE INTO THIS PROCESS.

OF COURSE, IT STARTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN THE CITY PURCHASED THE PROCESS, AND THERE'S BEEN DOZENS OF DIFFERENT OUTREACH EFFORTS HERE WITH THE COMMISSION, WITH OUR BOARD, WITH DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.

SO THE CITY HAS PUT IN A LOT OF WORK TO GET TO WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.

LARGELY LED BY CITY MANAGEMENT AND JOHN'S TEAM AS IT RELATES TO THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.

SO WHY DO WE NEED TO DO THIS PROCESS? JUST TO KIND OF STEP BACK, OF COURSE, OUR SUBJECT SITES, THE FORMER HERON BAY GOLF COURSE, YOU CAN SEE APPROXIMATELY 25 ACRES IS IN THE CITY CURRENTLY.

AND OF COURSE, EXCITINGLY, WE HAVE ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF ADDITIONAL ACRES THAT ARE SLATED TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY FROM CORAL SPRINGS.

SO THAT WILL GIVE US APPROXIMATELY 34 ACRES COMPLETELY IN OUR JURISDICTION AND UNDER OUR CONTROL, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROJECT.

THE EXISTING ENTITLEMENTS. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THE ZONING AND WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THE PROPERTY LIMIT, THE POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT, AND CERTAINLY DON'T ANTICIPATE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE NEED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY OR A FUTURE DEVELOPER WILL REZONE THE PROPERTY.

BUT OUR EXISTING ZONING DISTRICTS, THE B1, ONE, B TWO, B THREE.

DISTRICTS DON'T ANTICIPATE OR ACCOMMODATE THIS TYPE OF VISION OR DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DEVELOPED A CUSTOM CRAFTED ZONING DISTRICT THAT MEETS THIS VISION AND WILL SET UP A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WITH THE RIGHT REGULATIONS TO SUPPORT THE VISION THAT WE'VE WORKED SO HARD TO ESTABLISH.

SO HOW DO WE GET TO THE PRETTY PICTURES THAT WE JUST SAW? THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS THAT WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE PROGRAM HERE.

OF COURSE. THE ANNEXATION THAT WAS PASSED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL IS WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE STATE LEVEL, AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT THAT WILL BE EFFECTIVE FALL OF THIS YEAR.

WE DO HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT STEP THAT WILL GIVE THE CITY OF PARKLAND LOCAL LAND USE AUTHORITY ONCE THAT BILL BECOMES LAW. I THINK IN THE SPRINGTIME.

AND ANTHONY, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, CAN CONFIRM THAT EXACT DATE POTENTIALLY, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE CAN PROCESS THE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, AND THEN ALSO AT THE COUNTY LEVEL FOR THE EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES.

AND THEN OF COURSE, TONIGHT WE ARE CONSIDERING THE ADOPTION OF THE NEW VILLAGE IN THE PARK ZONING DISTRICT, AS WELL AS THE ACCOMPANYING DESIGN GUIDELINES.

AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, A FUTURE DEVELOPER WOULD COME INTO THE CITY.

THEY WOULD BE SELECTED THROUGH THE RFQ AND RFP PROCESS, AND THEY WOULD SUBMIT A REZONING APPLICATION.

PART OF THE REZONING APPLICATION REQUIRES A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND THEN THEY WOULD ALSO BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THEIR PLAT, THEIR MASTER PLAN, SITE PLAN AND COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD APPLICATION.

SO JUST FROM THIS SLIDE ALONE, YOU CAN APPRECIATE ALL OF THE EFFORT TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE AT,

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SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS AND THE ROLE OF EACH DOCUMENT.

OF COURSE, THERE'S THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND THE ZONING DISTRICT.

IT'S KIND OF THE LEFT HAND AND THE RIGHT HAND WORKING TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT THIS VISION COMES TO FRUITION.

SO THE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT JOHN IS GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU, AND LIKE I SAID, YOU'VE SEEN SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE HERE REALLY SETS THE VISION AND THE QUALITATIVE TONE FOR THE FUTURE PROJECT. AND SO THAT KIND OF IS THE FRONT END OF THE PROCESS.

BUT IT ALSO BOOKENDS THE PROCESS. AND IN THE MIDDLE IS THE ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH ESTABLISHES THE MINIMUM ENVELOPE FOR WHICH A DEVELOPER WOULD WORK WITHIN. AND THEN AGAIN ON THAT BACKSIDE OF OF THE BOOKEND HERE, THE DESIGN LINES COME BACK INTO PLAY, AND IT HAS A LOT OF THE FINE GRAINED MINUTIA AND THE SPECIFICS OF THE TYPE OF MATERIALS AND AND ARCHITECTURE AND THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

WE ALSO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF REQUIRING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

AND IF YOU LISTEN TO OUR PNC MEETING, THERE WAS A LOT OF GREAT DISCUSSION AND IDEAS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT.

AND SOME OF THOSE MORE FINE GRAINED DETAILS LIVE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

SO WE'VE BEEN KEEPING TRACK OF THOSE TYPES OF IDEAS, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THOSE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHEN THAT COMES INTO THE PROCESS. OF COURSE, THERE'S ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS AND STIPULATIONS THROUGH THE RFQ AND RFP PROCESS AS WELL.

SO I'M GOING TO INVITE JOHN UP TO THE PODIUM TO PRESENT A COUPLE SLIDES ON THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF THE DISTRICT.

DO I HAVE TO SAY WHO I AM? I THINK I INTRODUCED YOU.

OH, OKAY. GOOD EVENING. I KNOW I'VE WORKED WITH A NUMBER OF YOU.

YOU GUYS UP THERE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AS WE'VE TRIED TO BRING THIS PROJECT TO PROJECT TO FRUITION.

SO I THINK THAT THAT, THAT WHEN WE STARTED ON THIS PROCESS, IT WAS HOW DO WE BEGIN TO ASSIST THE COMMUNITY IN THE CITY TO COMMUNICATE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN, IN OUR IN PARKLAND, AS A RESULT OF CREATING A SORT OF HEART TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO THERE WAS A LOT OF DESIGN, A LOT OF MEETINGS WE WENT THROUGH IN TERMS OF EVOLUTION, OF A, OF A NOTION ABOUT HOW WE WOULD PLAN IT, DENSITY, SCALE, QUALITIES OF, OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE.

SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, THEN WENT THROUGH TO DO THE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS, WHICH IS BASICALLY TRYING TO COMMUNICATE TO DEVELOPERS THAT ARE GOING TO PRESENT THEIR NOTIONS ABOUT HOW THEY WOULD DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, THAT WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE. AND SO THE HOPE IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET ALIGNMENT BETWEEN WHO WANTS TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY AND WHAT WE WANT AS A COMMUNITY.

SO I'LL GO THROUGH THAT. NOT EVERY PAGE OF THE GUIDELINES IS HERE.

WE'D BE HERE ALL NIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF GO THROUGH AT A HIGH A HIGH LEVEL. SO WE REALLY TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO CREATE AS A SORT OF HEART TO PARKLAND AND REALLY CREATING THAT SORT OF CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY AND A GREAT GATHERING PLACE.

SO WE TALK A LOT ABOUT WHAT THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES ARE FOR THIS AND THE NOTIONS OF OF CREATING ADVENTUROUS, FLOURISHING PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER AND AND BEING ENTERTAINED AND MEETING AND GREETING AND HAVING FUN AND ALL OF THAT AS A PART OF IT.

AND THERE WERE A LOT OF NOTIONS ABOUT GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT WE WERE TRYING TO SAY ARE, WHAT'S THE EMOTIONAL QUALITIES IN DNA THAT WE WANT FOR THE COMMUNITY OR FOR THIS PROJECT? SO WE CERTAINLY WANT TO HAVE HIGH QUALITY MATERIAL PALETTE.

WE REALLY WANT TO HAVE REALLY AUTHENTIC AND ORGANIC MATERIALS AND DETAILING, TRADITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, WARMTH AND WELCOMING PLACE. MAKING A LIVELY MAIN STREET EXPERIENCE WERE ALL QUALITIES THAT ARE IMPORTANT.

AND AGAIN, THESE ARE THINGS WE WANT TO COMMUNICATE TO THE DEVELOPERS ABOUT. LOOK, WHEN YOU COME IN AND PRESENT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PHYSICAL QUALITIES OF WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING AND WHAT ARE THE EMOTIONAL QUALITIES, WHAT ARE PRESENTING. SO WE WANT TO CREATE WE CALL THIS ARDENTLY SO ADVENTUROUS, SO DISCOVERY MOMENTS, HIGHLY ACTIVATED PLACES, EXTENSION OF ACTIVE LIFESTYLE AND OPPORTUNITIES TO THRIVE ARE ALL VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS. AND THE NOTION ABOUT FLOURISHING TOGETHER.

RIGHT? NATURE WOVEN THROUGHOUT VARIETY OF DINING OPPORTUNITIES, HARMONY WITH THE LAND DIVERSE ECOSYSTEM.

SO INSTEAD OF JUST COMING RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX ABOUT HERE'S YOUR PLAN, WHAT DO WE WANT THIS PLACE TO LOOK AND FEEL LIKE? SO THEN WE BEGAN TO EVOLVE THE MASTER PLAN AND HOW WE COULD BEGIN TO USE THE SITE, WHAT KIND OF DENSITY MIGHT BE RIGHT FOR THAT SITE AND SITE, AND HOW DO YOU BEGIN TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE DEVELOPER ABOUT WHAT WE ALL FEEL IS APPROPRIATE? SO WE HAD THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN, AND THEN WE HAD THE SORT OF VISUALS AND AERIAL PERSPECTIVE OF OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT.

AND THEN I THINK THERE WERE A LOT OF LOT OF URBAN DESIGN STRATEGIES THAT WERE A PART OF IT. TALKING ABOUT REALLY WANTING A GREAT CENTRAL PARK OR A GREAT CENTRAL GREEN AND A REAL

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AND THEN THE NOTION ABOUT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE WATER THAT WE HAVE AND USING THAT TO FRAME A LAKE BUFFER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AS WE GO THROUGH IT.

WE CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT OF PARKS AND PLAZAS AS A PART OF IT.

YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT VILLAGE IN THE PARK AND HAVING A LOT OF DIFFERENT QUALITIES OF, OF, OF PARKS THAT WOULD BE INTEGRATED INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AS WE GO THROUGH IT.

SO THAT WILL BE PARTLY WHAT WILL BE ASKING THE DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE ENHANCING.

WE TALK ABOUT SORT OF QUALITIES OF LIGHT AND THAT'S BEING VERY IMPORTANT AND HOW YOU DO THAT THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN TALKING ABOUT THE STREET FRAMEWORK, THE NOTION THAT HOW YOU ENTER THE SITE, HOW YOU CAN NAVIGATE AROUND THE SITE, THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY CLOSE STREETS OFF IF WE WANT TO FOR STREET FAIRS OR KIND OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, AND HOW YOU HOW YOU WOULD DO THAT, SO THAT THOSE ALL NEED TO BE INCORPORATED INTO WHAT A DEVELOPER WOULD COME IN.

AS WE TALK ABOUT THAT. AND THEN THE WHOLE NOTION ABOUT PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE NETWORK, BOTH INTERNAL TO THE SITE AND THEN CONNECTIONS TO THE BIKE LOOPS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE SITE. SO THAT'S ALL VERY IMPORTANT. SO AGAIN, EVERY ONE OF THESE PAGES IS THINGS THAT LOOK AS A DEVELOPER YOU NEED TO COME TALK TO US ABOUT IT. AND THEN THE NOTION ABOUT LANDSCAPING CERTAINLY CREATING A VERY STRONG BUFFER TO THE WEST, STRONG BUFFER TO THE NORTH AND CONNECTIONS TO THE SOUTH AND EAST.

SO AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT HOW WE BEGIN TO FRAME THE PROJECT AND HOW WE WE SORT OF CONNECT IT TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEN I THINK THE LAST SORT OF BIG PIECE IS WHAT ARE THE WHAT'S THE QUALITIES OF THE ARCHITECTURE THAT WE WANT? HOW CAN THIS FEEL MUCH DIFFERENT FROM FROM WHAT WE THINK IS IN THE MARKET? SO AGAIN, THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES ABOUT THE STYLES, THE EDGES, THE DETAILING, ALL OF THAT BEING VERY IMPORTANT, TALKING ABOUT ESTHETIC STYLES. AND AGAIN, YOU SORT OF LOOK AT THE IMAGERY AND WE GO THROUGH ALL THE WORDS ABOUT THE KINDS OF MATERIALS AND THE KIND OF QUALITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AS PART OF THAT. AND THEN I THINK THE SORT OF EDGE CONDITIONS, WHAT HAPPENS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDINGS AND THE SORT OF COURTYARDS AND PLAZAS AND WHAT ARE THE QUALITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN ALL OF THAT? AND THEN I THINK WE GET BACK INTO THE SORT OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES SPECIFICALLY ON THE ARCHITECTURE. AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO DEEPLY INTO ALL THOSE AS PART OF THIS, BUT IT'S VERY, VERY MUCH LINED OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO MASSING IS VERY IMPORTANT. COMPOSITION OF THE BUILDING IS VERY IMPORTANT.

SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT THAT AS WE GET SUBMITTALS, I BELIEVE FROM DEVELOPERS THAT LOOK GUYS, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE THIS IS WHERE WE'RE THINKING THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING TO YOU. SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HELP TRANSLATE THAT INTO INTO WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO DO.

SO WE TALK ABOUT QUALITY. SO WE HAVE THE DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES RESTAURANTS STORES.

SO YOU KNOW ONE STORY BUILDINGS TWO STORY BUILDINGS.

WHAT HAPPENS ALONG THE WATERFRONT. WHAT ARE THE QUALITIES THAT SHOULD HAPPEN AND BE A PART OF THAT.

AND THEN MORE IN TERMS OF OUTDOOR PATIOS, OPEN AIR QUALITIES OF ARCHITECTURE, AND SO THAT WE DON'T WANT EVERY BUILDING TO LOOK THE SAME, LOOK THE SAME. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR VARIETY AND CHARACTER AND SORT OF DIFFERENT IN MASSING AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUILDINGS.

AND THEN WE GET INTO SORT OF THE RETAIL BUILDING.

SO THE ONE STORY BUILDINGS, TWO STORY BUILDINGS, PARK FRONT BUILDINGS AND WHAT SHOULD BE IMPORTANT ABOUT ALL OF THOSE QUALITIES AS THAT.

AND THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC SPACE AS PART OF THE PROJECT.

SO I CALL THEM OUTDOOR ROOMS. YOU KNOW, WE SORT OF CALL IT IT'S URBAN INTERIORS THAT THE REALLY INDOOR ROOMS, BUT THEY'RE OUTDOORS. AND SO IT'S NOT JUST LANDSCAPE AND HARDSCAPE, BUT IT'S ALL THOSE COMPONENTS TOGETHER. AND HOW DO YOU BRING THEM TOGETHER AND WHAT'S OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR THAT. SO CONTINUING THINKING ABOUT OUTDOOR ROOMS AND THE INTEGRATED SEATING AND LIGHTING, ENHANCED OUTDOOR CONNECTIONS AND ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY, ALL WE THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND THEN WE TRY TO DO SOME, I CALL THEM, SORT OF SUSPECT, AS WE SUSPECT THAT THESE ARE THE KINDS OF QUALITIES AND MASSING AND THOUGHTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, FOR THE BUILDING. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM TO DESIGN EXACTLY LIKE THIS, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE. LOOK, GUYS, THIS IS THE QUALITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. SO SAMPLE ELEVATIONS AND SAMPLE EXAMPLE PERSPECTIVES ON THE SORT OF THE KIND OF DETAIL AND TEXTURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AS PART OF THOSE BUILDINGS.

YOU KNOW, MAIN STREET. SO WE'VE GIVEN WE'VE SORT OF GIVEN EXAMPLES OF DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES TO REALLY TALK ABOUT SCALE AND TEXTURE AND DETAIL.

SO AGAIN, WHAT'S THE NOTION OF A BUILDING THAT'S ALONG THE WATERFRONT AND WHAT DOES IT HAVE AS A PART OF IT.

SO AND THEN I THINK ANOTHER SORT OF NOTION OF A WATERFRONT RESTAURANT FROM THE STREET SIDE.

SO ALL OF THESE WERE REALLY A WAY TO SAY TO THE DEVELOPER, LOOK, GUYS, YOU READ IT, YOU LOOKED AT ALL THE QUALITIES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, MATERIALS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF, MATERIALITY AND ALL OF THAT.

WHAT DOES THAT BEGIN TO AMASS UP TO? AND WHEN WE START LOOKING AT PRESENTATIONS ON WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO, WE HAVE A FRAME OF REFERENCE ABOUT WHAT WE WANT. HOPEFULLY WE COMMUNICATE TO THEM.

AND THEN THERE'S A SORT OF DETAILED OVERALL NOTION ABOUT SIGNAGE ENVIRONMENTAL GRAPHICS PROGRAM.

I KIND OF CALL IT THE JEWELRY OF A PROJECT, RIGHT? THAT IT'S JUST NOT STICKING A SIGN OUT THERE. BUT IT'S ALL PART OF AN EXTENSION OF WHAT YOUR BRAND IS AND YOUR NARRATIVE ABOUT WHO WE ARE.

SO WE BEGIN TO SHOW EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT SAY, LOOK, THESE ARE THE KINDS OF QUALITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AS A PART OF THAT.

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IT'S ONLY ABOUT 1000 PAGES, I THINK. SO IT'S PRETTY PRETTY DETAILED.

DON'T STEAL MINE. THERE YOU GO. TRADE YOUR PAPER FOR AN IPAD THERE.

OKAY. THANKS, JEN. SO YOU CAN CERTAINLY SEE THE TONE AND THE EXPECTATION THAT'S BEING SET FOR A FUTURE DEVELOPER.

AND I THINK THE CITY HAS DONE A VERY GOOD JOB AT SENDING THAT MESSAGE.

AS WE MOVE THROUGH INTO THE NEXT STEP OF THE RFQ AND RFP PROCESS, BY HAVING THIS HARD WORK OF THE DESIGN GUIDELINES BEING A PART OF THIS PROCESS AT THIS PHASE OF THE OF THE PROCESS AS WELL. SO NEXT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE VILLAGE IN THE PARK.

THE ZONING DISTRICT. AND OF COURSE, TYPICALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ZONING, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MAP.

AND WE ALSO HAVE THE TEXT. SO THIS IS THE TEXT PART OF THE ZONING REGULATIONS.

AND AS I NOTED, WE'RE ESTABLISHING A BRAND NEW ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS SITE.

SPECIFICALLY, IT WOULD BE CALLED THE VILLAGE IN THE PARK ZONING DISTRICT OR THE VIP ZONING DISTRICT.

APPROPRIATELY, WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH THE TEXT BEFORE YOU IN YOUR ORDINANCE, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT MIRRORS IN TERMS OF ITS FORMAT, OUR OTHER DISTRICTS. SO IT WILL LOOK FAMILIAR IN TERMS OF THE LAYOUT AND THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE'RE REGULATING AS COMPARED TO OUR STANDARD CITY DISTRICTS LIKE OUR B1, B2, AND B3 COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. AND AS I NOTED EARLIER, THE INTENT OF THE ZONING DISTRICT IS TO REALLY SERVE AS THE ENVELOPE FOR FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT. AND THEN IT'S THE NUANCE OF THE SPECIFIC DESIGN DETAILS COMES BACK IN THROUGH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, AND THEN EVEN MORE SO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

IF THERE'S SOME FINE GRAINED MINUTIAE THAT THE CITY WANTED TO SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK WE HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT BLUE LIGHTS FOR SAFETY AND ADS PREVIOUSLY WITH OUR BOARD. AND WHILE THOSE ARE GREAT IDEAS, THEY BEST LIVE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

SO LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN TRACKING THOSE. JUST AS A NOTE, THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS HAVE A LOT OF GOOD STUFF, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD OR TERM, IN IN THE EXISTING REGULATIONS.

RIGHT? SO WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING AND LANDSCAPE AND MECHANICAL SCREENING, ALL OF THOSE REGULATIONS STILL APPLY TO THIS DISTRICT AND TO THIS PROJECT, UNLESS THEY'RE SUPERSEDED IN SOME WAY BY THE DISTRICT OR THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.

SO YOU WON'T SEE EVERY LITTLE PIECE. LIKE I SAID, THE PARKING AND THE LOADING AND THE SCREENING OF MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT ISN'T REITERATED OR DUPLICATED IN THIS DISTRICT BECAUSE WE STILL APPLY THOSE REGULATIONS TO THIS TYPE OF PROJECT.

SO THE SLIDE BEFORE YOU SHOWS WHAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE A FUTURE DEVELOPER SUBMITTING IN TERMS OF THEIR PROCESS.

OF COURSE, THERE MAY BE SOME DEVIATIONS, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, AS THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD OUR BEST GUESS WOULD BE THAT A DEVELOPER WOULD MOVE KIND OF IN TWO PHASES. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS CAPTURED HERE IN THOSE TWO PHASES.

AND THE FIRST PHASE THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE A DEVELOPER SUBMITTING WOULD BE THE REZONING TO THE VILLAGE IN THE PARK DISTRICT, ALONG WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND THEN ALSO TO SUBMIT THEIR PLAT APPLICATION.

THE PLAT DOES TAKE A WHILE, BUT IT DOES NEED TO COME AFTER THE REZONING.

SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REZONING AND MOST LIKELY THE MASTER PLAN AT THAT POINT, AND THE MASTER PLAN REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED IN THE VILLAGE IN THE PARK ARE THE SAME AS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN OUR PLANNED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

SO THAT'S GOING TO SHOW US THE BUFFERS AND THE LOCATION OF THE INTERNAL STREETS AND SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND ALL THE HIGH LEVEL TYPES OF COMPONENTS THAT MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK.

AND THEN AS PART OF A SECOND PHASE, ONCE THEY RECEIVED MASTER PLAN APPROVAL, THEY WOULD MOST LIKELY COME IN SEPARATELY AND GIVE THEMSELVES SOME TIME TO WORK THROUGH THE SPECIFICS WITH THEIR SITE PLAN AND THEIR COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD APPLICATION.

SO THIS, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PROJECT, WOULD MOVE THROUGH OUR STANDARD DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS THROUGH OUR DRC, WHICH IS THE STAFF COMMITTEE THAT REVIEWS AND PROVIDES COMMENTS.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, IT WOULD MOVE THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION, AND THEN THE COMMISSION WOULD TAKE THE APPROPRIATE ACTION, EITHER VIA RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE, DEPENDING ON THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU.

SO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT PROCESS HERE.

AS I NOTED, THE PLANS WOULD BE REVIEWED AGAINST THE TEXT, OF COURSE, OF THE VILLAGE IN THE PARK.

THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND THE LARGER LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

SO ALL OF THESE PIECES WORK HAND IN HAND TO DRIVE THE REGULATIONS IN THE STANDARDS THAT APPLY TO THIS DISTRICT.

IN CASE OF A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND THE VILLAGE AND THE PARK ZONING, THE ZONING WOULD CONTROL.

AND THEN WE HAVE TWO PROCESSES. THEY WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT ARE STIPULATED IN THE ZONING DISTRICT HERE FOR THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.

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HOWEVER, IF THE APPLICANT INTENDED TO DEVIATE FROM THE ZONING, THE VIP DISTRICT, THAT WOULD BE A STANDARD VARIANCE AND IT WOULD COME BEFORE YOU WITH ALL OF THE JUSTIFICATION AND CRITERIA THAT YOU'RE USED TO SEEING WITH A VARIANCE.

SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. SINCE OUR P AND Z MEETING HOPEFULLY YOU ALL HAD A CHANCE TO LISTEN.

WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD CONVERSATION AND HAD A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS THAT CAME OUT OF THE MEETING THERE.

SO WE DID MAKE A COUPLE CHANGES TO THE PERMITTED USE PERMITTED USE TABLE SUCH AS CHANGES TO THE BILLIARD HALL OR POOL HALL LINE ITEM AND MEDICAL RELATED OFFICES. AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT IN SOME MORE DETAIL ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES.

WE ALSO MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE VALET PARKING REGULATIONS, CLARIFIED THAT PARKING GARAGES AT THIS TIME WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED.

WE ADDED SOME STANDARDS FOR THE MOBILE VENDORS.

THERE ARE SOME PREEMPTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO THE STATE AS TO HOW WE CAN REGULATE FOOD TRUCKS AND SUCH, BUT WE DID PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE. CONSISTENT WITH STATE REGULATION.

AND WE DID REVISE SOME OF THE SHOPPING CART LANGUAGE JUST TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WASN'T TOO LIMITING IN CASE WE DO GET SOME SORT OF BOUTIQUE GROCER, BUT THAT TO KIND OF PRECLUDE THE USE WIDESPREAD USE OF SHOPPING CARTS THROUGHOUT THE CENTER.

SO THE PERMITTED USES. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING AT YOU FOR A WHILE, SO I JUST WANT TO REFOCUS EVERYONE, BECAUSE THIS IS ARGUABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE VILLAGE IN THE PARK ZONING DISTRICT.

AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE SLIDES THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PERMITTED USES.

RIGHT. BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, IN PARKLAND, IF IT'S NOT EXPRESSLY PERMITTED, THEN IT'S PROHIBITED.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE USES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THIS DISTRICT ARE GOING TO ENCOURAGE AND FOSTER THAT TYPE OF VISION THAT WE'VE WORKED SO HARD TO GET, WHILE ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING ANY TYPES OF NEW USES THAT MAYBE SHOULD BE ADDED.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT IN MORE DETAIL. I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A COUPLE SLIDES, BUT THEN I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSION TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON THE USE TABLE, SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE WRAP UP THE PRESENTATION, IF THAT'S OKAY.

SO HOW DID WE GET TO THE TABLE? THAT'S BEFORE YOU IN THE ORDINANCE.

WHAT WE DID WAS WE STARTED WITH THE B1, B2, B3 USES.

AND THOSE ARE OUR STANDARD SHOPPING CENTER DISTRICTS.

THOSE USES HAVE NOT BEEN UPDATED IN A VERY LONG TIME.

SO I THINK THERE'S SOME ROOM TO CONSIDER SOME ADDITIONAL USES OR NEW USES THAT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS DISTRICT, AS WELL AS CONSIDER WHETHER SOME OF THOSE USE TYPES.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY USE TYPE IS YOU'LL SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE TABLE, THE USE IS MARKED WITH A P AND SE OR AN A P WOULD MEAN PERMITTED BY RIGHT. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS AUTOMATICALLY, IF SOMEONE CAME IN AND ASKED FOR PERMITS, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL APPROVAL THAT'S NEEDED.

THEY COULD JUST GO JUST GO AHEAD WITH THAT USE.

BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION, THE SE REQUIRES A DIFFERENT APPLICATION AND APPROVAL BY THE COMMISSION, AND ACCESSORY MEANS THAT IT HAS TO BE SUPPLEMENTAL TO ANOTHER USE THAT WOULD BE MARKED WITH A P OR AN SE IN THAT LIST.

SO WE STARTED WITH THE STANDARD B1, B2, B3 USES.

WE WENT AHEAD AND WE ELIMINATED USES THAT JUST WEREN'T INHERENTLY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS DISTRICT, LIKE AN AUCTION HALL AND THINGS LIKE THAT. RIGHT. THERE'S JUST ONES THAT WE KNEW WEREN'T RIGHT.

AND THEN WE WENT AHEAD AND WE ADDED SOME LIMITATIONS ON CERTAIN USES, LIKE SHOPPING CARTS AND SOME HOURS OF OPERATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD LOOK TO YOU FOR SOME DIRECTION ON ADDITIONAL USES OR CHANGE IN THOSE USE TYPES.

AND JUST AS A NOTE, WE ARE STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROHIBITION AGAINST RESIDENTIAL USES OR SIMPLY NOT INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL USES, WHICH BY PROXY MEANS THAT THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED.

SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE SLIDES THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO, BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT THEM UP SO YOU CAN START THINKING ABOUT THEM.

BUT THE AMUSEMENT AND RECREATION INDOOR AND OUTDOOR LINE ITEM IN YOUR USE TABLE CURRENTLY IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPROVAL.

AND THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER B1, B2, B3 USES.

BUT OF COURSE THE WHOLE INTENT OF THIS DISTRICT IS SURROUNDED BY GATHERING SPACES, ENTERTAINMENT, AMUSEMENT AND RECREATION. RIGHT? SO TO BE MORE CONSISTENT WITH THAT VISION, WE WOULD ASK YOU THE QUESTION,

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ONE THING TO NOTE ABOUT THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION PROCESS IS IT'S ABOUT A $6,500 APPLICATION FEE.

THE APPLICATION IS ALSO SUBJECT TO COST RECOVERY.

AND OF COURSE, THERE'S QUITE A BIT THAT GOES INTO PREPARING FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION, WHETHER IT'S NOISE STUDIES, TRAFFIC STUDIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THERE'S A GOOD AMOUNT OF CONSULTANT FEES AS WELL.

AND THE APPROVAL PROCESS IS ABOUT, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY ON THE MORE LENIENT SIDE, FOUR MONTHS OR SO BY THE TIME THEY GET THROUGH STAFF REVIEW APPROVAL BEFORE THE PNC AND COMMISSION. SO THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT ARE THAT IT DOES DETER SMALLER BUSINESSES.

AND THIS DOES HAPPEN IN OUR EXISTING SHOPPING CENTERS.

WHEN MYSELF OR THE ZONING DEPARTMENT GETS INQUIRIES ABOUT CERTAIN USES, PEOPLE ARE EXCITED TO COME TO THE CITY.

THEY HAVE A GOOD BUSINESS IDEA AND WE LET THEM KNOW THAT IT'S A SPECIAL EXCEPTION. AND THE FEES AND IT DOES DETER THEM KIND OF A LOT OF TIMES TO GO TO OTHER CITIES THAT MIGHT ALLOW THAT BY RIGHT, JUST BECAUSE OF THE THE COST AND THE TIME ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

AND THIS IS MOSTLY THE SMALLER BUSINESSES LIKE THE MOM AND POP STORES OR THE STARTUP BUSINESSES.

SO IT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP TO KEEP IN MIND. AND ALSO JUST THE TURNOVER TIME.

YOU KNOW IF A BAY CLOSES DOWN ONE USE AND THEN THEY WANT TO PUT IN A SPECIAL EXCEPTION USE, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO SIT EMPTY FOR ABOUT FOUR PLUS MONTHS WHILE THEY GET THAT SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPROVAL IN.

SO JUST SOME THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE AMUSEMENT AND RECREATION USES, WHETHER WE SHOULD PRE IDENTIFY SOME USES THAT WE KNOW ARE JUST AUTOMATICALLY COMPATIBLE AND THAT WE WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY FINE WITH.

AND WE DID GO AHEAD AND IDENTIFY SOME THAT WE WANTED TO CALL OUT FOR DISCUSSION.

SO LIKE I SAID WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS SLIDE.

THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER USES THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF DISCUSSION ABOUT. ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENTS.

AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE IF IT'S NOT EXPRESSLY PERMITTED, IT'S PROHIBITED CONCEPT.

THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT LINE ITEM COULD BE ADDED TO ALLOW FOR CERTAIN USES TO HAVE AN ACCESSORY.

I'LL SAY BAR TYPE OF SERVICE. SO THINK ABOUT A CIGAR BARS, A LINE ITEM IN THE IN THE USE TABLE, OR THE MINI GOLF IF THAT WERE A PERMITTED USE.

A LOT OF THOSE TYPES OF ENTERTAINMENT USES ALSO HAVE BAR COMPONENTS THESE DAYS.

BUT RIGHT NOW, UNLESS THOSE TYPES OF USES ALSO HAD A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SERVE BEER AND LIQUOR.

SO THIS LINE ITEM IN DISCUSSION FOR CONSIDERATION WOULD BE TO ALLOW USES THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF BAR COMPONENT, WHICH WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH A LOT OF THESE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT YOU SEE AND THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY BEEN TO THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY OR PALM BEACH COUNTY.

RIGHT. ONE OTHER USE WOULD BE THE ENTERTAINMENT VENUE USE.

WE DID GO AHEAD AND ADD THAT INTO YOUR USE TABLE WITH THE DEFINITION.

AND THESE ARE THINGS LIKE COMEDY CLUBS OR THEATERS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE AMUSEMENT AND INDOOR AND OUTDOOR RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES AS THEY EXIST.

WE PUT IT IN A SPECIAL EXCEPTION, BUT CERTAINLY WOULD BE RIPE FOR CONSIDERATION AS A BY RIGHT USE.

AND THEN A COUPLE OTHERS HERE. EVENT VENUES. OUR CURRENT B123 DISTRICTS ALLOW FOR CATERING HALLS BY RIGHT.

IT'S KIND OF AN ANTIQUATED TERM. SO I THINK THE EVENT VENUE IS A BETTER TERM TO USE FOR THIS TABLE.

AND WHAT THAT WOULD BE WOULD BE A SPACE FOR THINGS LIKE WEDDING SHOWERS, BIRTHDAYS, BABY SHOWERS, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND AGAIN, YOU COULD CONSIDER THE USE TYPE FOR THAT.

PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES. WE'VE ALWAYS CONTEMPLATED THIS.

THERE IS A SECTION IN OUR CODE THAT THAT STATES THAT THE CITY BASICALLY DOESN'T HAVE TO FOLLOW ITS OWN CODE.

HOWEVER, SINCE WE USE BSO AND CORAL SPRINGS AND THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY CITY PD AND FIRE, THAT'S MORE OF A CLARIFYING THING TO KIND OF BUTTON UP THE USE TABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT THOSE WOULD BE A PERMITTED USE.

AND THEN INTERESTINGLY, OUR USE TABLE DOES NOT.

IN THE B ONE, TWO THREE DISTRICTS, THEY CURRENTLY DON'T CONTEMPLATE ANY SORT OF SPORTS TRAINING OR INSTRUCTION OUTSIDE OF DANCE ACADEMIES.

AGAIN, THE USE TABLE IS PRETTY ANTIQUATED, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER EITHER INDOOR OR OUTDOOR.

BOTH WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT TYPE OF USE.

SO MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, OF COURSE, THE WHOLE INTENT IS TO IMPLEMENT THE DESIGN GUIDELINES VISION.

SO AS I SAID, WE DID REVIEW OUR EXISTING COMMERCIAL DISTRICT STANDARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE GENERALLY CONSISTENT AND SETTING SIMILAR EXPECTATIONS FOR MINIMUM OPEN SPACE AND PERVIOUS AREA, THINGS LIKE THAT, OR GREATER WHERE NEEDED OR APPROPRIATE.

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LIKE I SAID, A COUPLE SLIDES BACK. THESE ARE THE TYPES OF REGULATIONS THAT YOU WOULD FIND IN OTHER DISTRICTS.

AND SO THIS DISTRICT IS DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT IN WHAT IT WHAT IT REGULATES IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING.

PATTY HELPED US OUT AS IT COMES TO MAKING SURE THAT THE REGULATIONS FOR THE VILLAGE AND THE PARK WERE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS TYPE OF CENTER.

SO THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE CODE DOES APPLY, EXCEPT WHERE IT'S SUPERSEDED BY THE VILLAGE IN THE PARK DISTRICTS.

SO WE DID COME UP WITH SOME SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS AS A NOTE.

THERE IS A RECORDED AGREEMENT FOR MINIMUM BUFFER DESIGN STANDARDS TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST.

AND SO THOSE WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY ADHERED TO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

AND JUST ONE NOTE THROUGH PATTY'S EXPERTISE IN WORKING WITH OTHER CENTERS, WE DID MODIFY THE LANDSCAPE ISLAND SIZE AND REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL SCREENING FOR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT FOR THIS DISTRICT. AS JOHN POINTED OUT, THE ACCESS AND CIRCULATION IS A MAJOR COMPONENT TO THIS PROJECT, ESPECIALLY THAT INTERIOR STREET THAT WE WOULD HOPE IS DESIGNED YOU KIND OF CREATE THAT PEDESTRIAN FEEL AND SCALE, BUT ALSO BE ABLE TO BE CLOSED FOR SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE A MARKET OR A HOLIDAY EVENT.

AND THEN THE OFF STREET PARKING AND LOADING AGAIN, THE STANDARD REGULATIONS WOULD APPLY EXCEPT WHERE SUPERSEDED HERE.

SO WE HAVE A SPECIAL SETBACK THAT'S REQUIRED, WHEREAS OUR STANDARD REGULATIONS JUST ALLOW IT AS A PERMITTED ENCROACHMENT.

WE'VE REDUCED THE PARKING STALL SIZE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE STANDARD NINE BY 18, WHICH YOU FIND PRETTY MUCH IN EVERY OTHER CITY.

SO THIS WILL JUST HELP US PICK UP A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA PERVIOUS AREA.

WE HAVE SOME SETBACKS FOR LOADING ZONES WHICH ARE INCLUDED, AND WE DO ALLOW FOR AN INCREASE IN VALET PERCENTAGE, EVEN THOUGH NO ONE USES VALET IN PARKLAND CURRENTLY.

WE DO HAVE REGULATIONS THAT CAP IT AT 25%. SO BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION, THEY COULD COME IN FOR CONSIDERATION TO EXCEED THAT PERCENTAGE.

LIGHTING AND SIGNAGE. WE DID REDUCE THE REDUCE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR LIGHTING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE PEDESTRIAN SCALE THAT WE'RE HOPING TO ACHIEVE, AND ALSO MITIGATE IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

WE DO REQUIRE UNIFORM SIGN PLAN CONSISTENT WITH OUR STANDARD COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, AND WE ALSO ALLOW FOR SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE TYPES THAT WOULD BE UNIQUE TO THIS DISTRICT AND WOULD BE INHERENTLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND SO WITH THAT, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTION AND COMMENT.

BUT WHENEVER APPROPRIATE, MAYOR WOULD LIKE TO BRING THOSE SLIDES BACK UP TO SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT THE USE TABLE.

YEP. OKAY, GREAT. SO JOHN, I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND YOUR TEAM. YOU GUYS PUT TOGETHER A FANTASTIC PRODUCT.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WANT TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY JUST TO TO OUR NEWER COMMISSIONERS.

SO NCID BOUGHT THE ENTIRE GOLF COURSE. NCID WAS GOING THROUGH A PROCESS WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE COME TO THE CITY AND ASKED US FOR DIFFERENT THINGS, WHATEVER DEVELOPER WOULD, WOULD WANT HERON BAY.

THE RESIDENTS, HERON BAY CAME TO US AND THEY WEREN'T HAPPY WITH THE WAY THE PROCESS WAS, WAS GOING, AND THE CITY DECIDED THAT WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND WE WOULD PURCHASE THE PROPERTY FROM NCID SO THAT WE COULD THEN CONTROL THE OUTCOME OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

WE LAID OUT 25.5 MILLION WE SOLD 21 ACRES OF THE DOGLEG PORTION TO TOLL BROTHERS FOR 19, 19.5 MILLION. THAT WAS ALWAYS SOMETHING WE HAD THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO RECOUP SOME OF OUR MONEY.

THE THE DOGLEG PORTION WAS VERY THIN, SO TO TRY TO PUT COMMERCIAL THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY INTRUSIVE TO THE RESIDENTS IN HERON BAY.

WE ALSO HAD 9.3 ACRES, GIVE OR TAKE, IN CORAL SPRINGS, WHERE THE CLUBHOUSE WAS.

WE WORKED WITH CORAL SPRINGS. WE ENDED UP SELLING THAT TO LIFETIME FITNESS.

SO THERE IS A LIFETIME FITNESS THAT IS GOING THERE.

THE LAST I HEARD, THAT'S 4 OR 5, SIX YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, BUT THEY ARE EVENTUALLY GOING TO BE THERE.

WE GOT $6 MILLION BACK. AS YOU SEE FROM THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WE THAT LEFT US WITH 25.3 ACRES AND ALSO 8.5 ACRES. THE 8.5 ACRES, WHICH WAS IN CORAL SPRINGS.

WE WORKED WITH THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS. WE GOT THEM TO ACCEPT US TO ANNEX THAT INTO THE CITY OF PARKLAND,

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WE DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO WORK TOGETHER WITH ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY WHO HAS DIFFERENT CODES THAN US.

SO THAT IS ALREADY. IT'S NOT ANNEXED IN YET. IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS.

IT WON'T HAPPEN, I THINK, UNTIL THE END OF THIS YEAR.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS MOVING FORWARD.

SO THAT LEAVES US WITH 33 ACRES. OBVIOUSLY WE DO NEED TO PAY SOMETHING FOR THE 8.5 ACRES, BUT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY WHOLE WE HAD ALWAYS ENVISIONED OR I WOULDN'T SAY ALWAYS ONE OF THE THINGS WE THOUGHT WE COULD DO WITH THIS PROPERTY IS GIVE THE CITY OF PARKLAND SOMETHING THAT IT'S MISSING.

A LOT OF OUR WE GOT A LOT OF NEWER RESIDENTS, A LOT OF YOUNG RESIDENTS.

WE HAVE PARKS TO GO TO. WE HAVE AMAZING PARKS, AND IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO GO.

BUT THIS NOW ALLOWS US AN ADDITIONAL AMENITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

WHETHER YOU CAN SEE IN THAT SITE PLAN, WHETHER IT'S PARKS, WHETHER IT'S WALKING SPACE, BIKE PATHS, RETAIL, RESTAURANTS, WHATEVER IT IS, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING PLANNED FOR THIS NOW IN THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS, WHAT WE DID WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND WHAT WE'RE NOW DOING WITH THE VIP PLAN.

WE'RE GOING TO ULTIMATELY, WE ASSUME, SELL IT TO A DEVELOPER.

WE'LL PUT THIS OUT ON THE STREET FOR AN RFP. WE'LL LOOK FOR DEVELOPERS TO COME TO US AND OFFER US THEIR IDEAS AND THEIR PLANS.

OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD EXPECT TO BE PAID FOR THE LAND.

BUT OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE FINANCIALLY BECAUSE WE'VE RECOUPED A LOT OF OUR COSTS.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T BE EXPECTING TO GET SOME RETURN FROM THE DEVELOPER, BUT IT DOES GIVE US SOME FLEXIBILITY.

THIS PROCESS NOW WHEN WE GO TO A DEVELOPER, WE JUST WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL.

THIS WE NEED SOMETHING BROAD. WE NEED SOMETHING THAT HAS A LARGE UMBRELLA THAT WILL ENTICE DEVELOPERS TO COME TO US, TO GIVE US WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. WE'RE PARKLAND.

WE EXPECT THE BEST OF EVERYTHING. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE KEEPING AN OPEN MIND.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT DEVELOPERS HAVE IN STORE FOR US OR WHAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO.

SO WE JUST NEED TO BE MINDFUL IN THIS PROCESS, THIS INITIAL PROCESS, THIS EARLY PROCESS TO GET TOO TIED DOWN.

AND WE DON'T WANT THIS. WE GOT TO RESTRICT THIS.

WHATEVER HAPPENS STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

IT'S STILL GOT TO GO PLANNING ZONING. IT'S STILL GOT TO GO TO THE DRC.

IT'S STILL GOT TO COME BACK TO US. THIS IS ALLOWING US TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

DEVELOPERS COME MEET THIS. BRING US YOUR OWN IDEAS.

BUT PARKLAND IS OPEN TO LISTENING TO WHATEVER YOU MAY HAVE.

SO WE STILL HAVE LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY. SO WE JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL TO NOT HANDCUFF OURSELVES SO THAT DEVELOPERS SAY, WELL, PARKLAND IS NOT LETTING THIS THEY'RE NOT LETTING THAT PARKLAND IS TOO STRICT, I FORGET IT.

IT'S NOT EVEN WORTH ME TRYING TO DO THAT. SO WE HAVE TO JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE MINDFUL IN THIS PROCESS THAT WE LEAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR DEVELOPERS TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER US THE BEST THEY CAN. AND THEN ONCE THAT PROCESS HAPPENS, WE'LL GET PLENTY MORE BITES AT THE APPLE.

YOU KNOW, TO, TO FINE TUNE THINGS, TO RESTRICT THINGS, WHATEVER IT IS WE WANT TO DO.

BUT IN THIS INITIAL PHASE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE VERY CAREFUL AND WE MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THE RIGHT DEVELOPERS SO WE GET THE RIGHT PROJECT. WE'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB UP TO THIS DATE.

THERE WAS A LOT OF SKEPTICS WHEN WE DECIDED TO DO THIS THAT WE WOULDN'T BE SUCCESSFUL.

WE'RE STILL NOT 100% SUCCESSFUL, BUT WE'RE MUCH, MUCH CLOSER.

THE FINAL PART OF THIS IS MAKING SURE WE GET THE BEST PROJECT WE CAN.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE BIGGEST. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE MOST STUFF. IT MEANS THE BEST, WHATEVER THAT ULTIMATELY LOOKS LIKE.

LOOK, NONE OF US HERE ARE DEVELOPERS. NONE OF US HERE ARE RETAILERS.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TELLING DEVELOPERS, COME SHOW US.

SHOW US WHAT YOU GOT. LET'S SEE. WE'RE OPEN TO LISTENING TO EVERYTHING.

AND THEN WE'LL GET LOTS OF BITES AT THE APPLE TO KIND OF SAY, YOU KNOW, OH, WE DON'T LIKE THAT.

THAT'S TOO BIG. THAT'S THIS, THAT'S THAT. SO ANYWAY, I GUESS NOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING, WHAT CAITLIN IS LOOKING TO DO INITIALLY.

WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS.

AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THEN WE'LL START GOING THROUGH THE THE OTHER PROCESS.

SO NUMBER ONE CAITLIN JOHN AND THE REST OF THE TEAM.

BRAVO. I'M GOING TO SAY THIS EVERY TIME. THIS IS LIKE THE MOST ENJOYABLE THING I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SINCE I'VE BEEN A COMMISSIONER.

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WE STARTED WITH A PROBLEM, AND NOT ONLY HAVE WE TURNED THAT PROBLEM INTO AN OPPORTUNITY, WE'VE TURNED IT INTO PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES. I THINK THIS CITY, AT LEAST, THAT I'VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME. BECAUSE IT IS IT IS OUR IT'S IT'S OUR CANVAS.

DO WE WANT WITH IT AND YOU EVEN KIND OF LOOK FIRST OF ALL THE, THE DESIGN AND ESTHETICS AND EVERYTHING, THE PRINCIPLES AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES I THINK HAVE SO CAPTURED.

I KNOW IT TOOK A LOT OF TIME OF, YOU KNOW, MOLDING WET CLAY AND IT'S STILL WET, BUT IT HAS CAPTURED, AT LEAST IN MY VIEW, THE ESSENCE OF WHAT I THINK ALL OF US AS A BODY, HAVE BEEN TRYING TO KIND OF ARTICULATE AND PUT PEN TO PAPER.

AND SO I'M SO THRILLED TO SEE THIS. I KNOW, AS YOU SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT REMAINS TO BE DONE, BUT WE HAVE COME SUCH A LONG WAY AND JUST IT'S IT'S, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT TO SOMETIMES TAKE A PAUSE AND JUST REALLY, YOU KNOW, BE PROUD OF ALL THE WORK THAT EVERYONE HAS DONE.

I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLE. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT BEING SAID A COUPLE THINGS.

ONE IS AND I AND I KNOW WE'LL GET TO THE TABLE OF THE USES.

ONE I WOULD ASK IS I SAW THERE WAS A, THE MAP WHERE IT SHOWED KIND OF THE WALKING TRAILS AND ALL THAT.

I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS WE SPOKE ABOUT WAS HAVING CONTINUITY AND MAKING SURE THAT THE TRAIL KIND OF DID ALMOST LIKE A FULL LOOP, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE IT DIDN'T. AND I AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T REALLY KIND OF RELEVANT TO THE CONVERSATION, BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I THINK THAT KIND OF STUFF, THE OVERALL MAPPING AND THE PLAN STILL KIND OF FEEDS INTO A LOT OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING. RIGHT. SO ONE THING TO JUST REMEMBER, THIS IS THE DEVELOPER MAY COME WITH SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

COMPLETELY. I GET IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IF WE'RE KIND OF CREATING THE THE BLUEPRINT OR THE BASELINE, I JUST WANT TO KNOW, BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT. I SAW THE TRAIL LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF COME IN THROUGH THE MAIN ENTRANCE, SO TO SPEAK, AND IT GOES AROUND, BUT THEN IT IT STOPS. WAS THERE JUST A REASONING OF WHY THE TAIL KIND OF ENDED THERE AND DIDN'T FIND ITS WAY? I MEAN, I'M SURE THERE WAS SOME REASONING. I'M JUST CURIOUS MYSELF.

YEAH. SO THE SOUTHWEST. EXACTLY. IT KIND OF GOES AROUND THE WHOLE PROPERTY AND THEN IT ENDS INSTEAD OF KIND OF THAT FINISHING IT'S WAY BACK TO ALMOST WHERE I WOULD THINK WOULD BE BACK TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE, SIMILAR TO. YEAH, I THINK THAT SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE SOUTH SORT OF SOUTHWEST SOUTH END OF THE PROJECT IS THAT I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH CORAL SPRINGS, AND THEN THERE'S REAL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CONNECTION TO THE HOTEL AND WHETHER WE ACTUALLY ALLOW A VEHICULAR CONNECTION INTO THE PROJECT.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSED, CERTAINLY WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY GOT IT, AND THE HOTEL ITSELF, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE IT, AND I THINK WE'D LOVE TO SEE IT.

OKAY, COOL. I JUST WAS CURIOUS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I GO BACK TO THE IDEA OF CREATING, IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE SPEND THE DAY AT THE VILLAGE IN THE PARK, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN OBVIOUSLY TRAVERSE THE TRAVERSE THE ENTIRE THING, BUT IT KIND OF MAKES A LOT OF SENSE, ESPECIALLY IF SOMEONE'S EVEN ON A BIKE TO ALLOW THEM TO MAKE THE FULL CIRCLE AND NOT KIND OF HAVE TO TURN BACK AROUND AND GO IN REVERSE.

SO, I MEAN, THAT WAS JUST A VISUAL THING I SAW.

THERE'S ALSO HOW DOES LIFELINE FITNESS FIT AND THE CONNECTION POTENTIALLY BETWEEN WHAT WE WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT LIFETIME'S DOING.

IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO IT BEHIND THAT. BUT AGAIN, THERE'S A FEW PLAYERS AT THE TABLE ON HOW THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

WE WOULD ENCOURAGE IT. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY, SO GOING BACK TO THE USES, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ESSENTIAL SERVICES KIND OF ENTAILED.

THAT AND ALSO PERSONAL SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT.

SO I CAN PULL UP A VERBATIM DEFINITION FOR YOU.

BUT JUST OFF THE CUFF. ESSENTIAL SERVICES IS TYPICALLY LIKE THE UTILITY, LIKE THE ANYTHING THAT'S UNDERGROUND IN TERMS OF UTILITY LINES, WATER, WASTEWATER, ELECTRIC, THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT'S NOTHING FUN, BUT IT'S WHAT'S NECESSARY TO HAVE THE CENTER OPERATE.

BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A USE IN TERMS OF A POWER PLANT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S A LOT OF BELOW GRADE IMPROVEMENTS. AND THEN THE PERSONAL SERVICE.

PERSONAL SERVICES IS LIKE EYEGLASS SHOPS AND HAIR SALONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE IS A DEFINITION THAT LIVES IN OUR LARGER LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT I SAID I COULD GET YOU VERBATIM, BUT IT'S GENERALLY THOSE TYPES OF BEAUTY AND THOSE TYPES OF USES.

OKAY. AS TO THE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR, THE AMUSEMENT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, I AGREE WITH YOU, MAYOR, THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BE TOO RESTRICTIVE.

MY FEELING AND JUST MY OPINION WOULD BE TO ALLOW THE INDOOR BY RIGHT, BUT THE OUTDOOR BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION, BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CONCERNS HAS BEEN NOISE AND JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, NUISANCE OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT INDOOR, IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO GO AND CREATE A, YOU KNOW, AN INDOOR MINI GOLF OR, YOU KNOW, A LOUNGE OR MUSIC, EVEN THE COMEDY CLUB, I LOVE THE IDEA OF A COMEDY CLUB WITH MUSIC, LIVE MUSIC, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO BE.

BUT I THINK TO HAVE THAT DISTINCTION BETWEEN INDOOR AND INDOOR AND OUTDOOR WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT ONE, BECAUSE THE OUTDOOR GIVES US NOW MUCH MORE CONTROL OVER WHAT IS ACTUALLY

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SO I WAS PULLING UP OUR CODE. BUT IF WE'RE HAVING ALSO WATERFRONT DINING AND MAYBE IT'S JUST LIKE A DISTINCTION WITHOUT A DIFFERENCE.

LIKE, DO WE NEED TO MODIFY THE CODE OF THE SIDEWALK PERMIT HAVING THE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE SOMEWHAT ON THE WATER AND THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY ADJACENT TO SIDEWALKS, SO TO SPEAK. I THINK WE COULD LOOK INTO THAT WITH THE HELP OF OUR CITY ATTORNEY, SEE IF WE JUST NEED TO ADD ANOTHER WORD IN THERE.

BUT FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, WE WOULD APPLY THE SIDEWALK CAFE FOR LIKE THE WATERFRONT DINING.

THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE PERMIT. I GUESS IT WOULD BE, TO YOUR POINT, LIKE DEJA VU.

YEAH, DEJA BLUE HAD THEY DIDN'T, THEY DON'T HAVE A SIDEWALK PERMIT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A LOT OF OUTDOOR SEATING, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A SIDEWALK. SO OUTDOOR SEATING IS PERMITTED.

RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS IT WAS KIND OF LIKE, WE'RE IN A LITTLE BIT OF A UNIQUE SITUATION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER PLACE IN PARKLAND WHERE THERE'S WATERFRONT, BUT ALSO WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE A WALKING TRAIL WHERE PEOPLE CAN STILL WALK AROUND THE LAKE. SO YOU MAY HAVE SOME PEOPLE ALMOST WALKING ON THE LAKE BEHIND WHERE THE RESTAURANT. I KNOW IT'S NOT THE BIGGEST DEAL, BUT I'M TRYING TO AT LEAST JUST KIND OF KEEP IN MIND, I MEAN, WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE OUTDOOR EATING.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. IT DOES. IN MOST OF OUR CENTERS, WE HAVE JUST THE STANDARD SIDEWALK.

AND SO IF YOU PUT A COUPLE TABLES OUT THERE, THE IDEA OF THE SIDEWALK PERMIT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM FOR WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'M NOT I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT OUTDOOR SEATING IN GENERAL.

YES, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. AND THEN A COUPLE MORE THINGS.

THE EVENT VENUE. I PERSONALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING SOME SORT OF SPACE.

RIGHT. THE SIZE AND THE SCALE THOUGH IS LIKE THE, THE SIGNIFICANT DETERMINING FACTOR.

RIGHT. BECAUSE IF IT'S TOO LARGE, WHICH I KNOW THERE WAS A LIMITATION, I THINK 20% OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE SPACE. WELL, ONE, ONE BUILDING 5000FT² WAS THE WAS THE LARGEST.

WAS THE LARGEST FACILITY. YES. CORRECT. YOU'RE BOTH RIGHT.

SO DEPENDING ON DEPENDING ON HOW MANY SQUARE FEET ULTIMATELY THAT ARE BUILT RIGHT.

THE LESSER OF THE TWO WILL CONTROL. SO 25,000FT² IS THE LIMITATION FOR ANY RETAILER.

BECAUSE ABOVE THAT OUR CODE WOULD DEFINE YOU AS A BIG BOX AND WE PRECLUDE BIG BOX ESTABLISHMENTS.

BUT ALSO THERE IS A LINE TO COMMISSIONER EZRA'S POINT THAT STIPULATES THAT NO ONE TENANT OR BAY SHALL BE MORE THAN 20% OF THE 25,000. SO IF YOU HAD 100,000FT², YOU WOULD GO WITH THE 20%, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE LESS THAN THE 25.

RIGHT? WELL, AND THE REASON I SAY THIS IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT YOU KNOW, THE GARDEN, RIGHT, IN PARKLAND, LIKE, I THINK THAT'S A FANTASTIC LIKE IT'S ADDED SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY.

THEY DO AMAZING EVENTS, WHETHER IT'S THE CHAMBER OR THEY DO PARTIES.

I LOVE THAT KIND OF THING. AND I KNOW WE'VE EVEN TALKED ABOUT HAVING AN HAVING AN IDEA OF THE WEDGE PARK IF PEOPLE WANT TO DO A BIRTHDAY PARTY, BUT I THINK THE MORE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS BECOMING LIKE A THE HEART OF THE CITY, YOU KNOW, JOHN, I LOVE THAT PHRASE.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, YOU WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE NOT ONLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND EAT AND SHOP AND DO THINGS, BUT ALSO CREATE THEIR OWN EVENTS, RIGHT? THEY'LL HAVE CITY ACTIVATED PROGRAMING, BUT ALSO YOU WANT THE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THEIR OWN THINGS. THE ONLY CONCERN I WOULD HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, I SAW THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT A WEDDING OR A THING LIKE IF IT GETS TOO BIG NOW, YOU DEAL WITH PARKING CONSTRAINTS AND YOU ALSO DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, OVERWHELMING, YOU KNOW, AN OTHERWISE AREA, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE LOCATION OF THIS VENUE MAY BE.

SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR TALK IS I LOVE THE IDEA OF IT.

DEPENDING ON HOW WE MODERATE YOU KNOW, THE SIZE AND SCALE AND, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE EVERYONE WILL HAVE OTHER STUFF.

BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY, I'M SO EXCITED FOR THIS.

I THINK THIS IS REALLY, REALLY AMAZING WORK. SO THANK YOU GUYS.

YEP. COMMISSIONER BRIER, YOU WANT TO GO, YOU WANT TO CHIME IN AND THEN WE'LL GO TO.

THEN WE'LL GO TO NEIL AND AND CINDY. YEAH, I ECHO ALL THE COMMENTS THAT BOTH YOU AND THE VICE MAYOR HAVE SAID.

I DID, I GUESS I HAVE SOME JUST AN ISSUE WITH THE, THE, THE STRATEGY AND THE TIMING.

SO I AM BECAUSE I ENVISION THE BENEFIT TO US IN BEING ABLE TO CURATE AND CONTROL WHAT GOES HERE.

BUT I ALSO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS YOU MADE, MAYOR.

BUT I WONDER, AND MAYBE THIS IS ANTHONY OR CAITLIN QUESTION.

WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT SOME ITERATION OF OF THIS AFTER THE FIRST AND SECOND READING.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND SHOP IT FOR BETTER WORD TO DEVELOPERS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US THEIR INPUT AND FEEDBACK.

AND MY THOUGHT WAS IN DOING THAT IS TO LEAVE THE ITEMS THAT ARE EITHER POTENTIALLY PROBLEMATIC OR CONCERNING AS SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS, BECAUSE THAT GIVES US THE ULTIMATE OR A HIGHER DISCRETION AND AUTHORITY TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THOSE THINGS.

AND IF A DEVELOPER COMES BACK TO US AND SAYS, HEY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, HERE'S WHAT WE ENVISION PUTTING IN THIS SPACE.

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CAN'T WE THEN GO AHEAD AND AND AND ADDRESS THOSE AT THAT TIME, MEANING I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP OUR CONTROL AND OUR ABILITY TO CURATE AT THE FRONT BEFORE WE KNOW, BECAUSE THEN IT'S A MATTER BY.

RIGHT. BEFORE WE KNOW WHAT IS ENVISIONED HERE.

AND I THINK THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER PROJECT WE'VE DONE IN THE CITY, BECAUSE WE OWN THE LAND, WE ARE ARE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER HAND IN GLOVE TO CO-DEVELOP THIS PROJECT.

AND IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE JUST ALLOWING A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER TO BUILD A RETAIL SPACE AND THEN DECIDE BASED ON OUR PERMITTED USES, WHO THEY COULD SUBLEASE IT TO. SO I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO WORK.

COMMISSIONER BREYER, BECAUSE A DEVELOPER, WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO HAVE 30 CUSTOMERS OR RETAILERS THAT THEY WORK WITH AND SAY, OKAY, I'M COMING, AND I WANT TO BUILD THIS FOR THESE 40 PEOPLE.

SO THAT'S THEY'RE GOING TO SAY MAYBE, MAYBE THEY LIKE JOHN'S PLAN AND SAY, OKAY, I'M GOING TO BUILD JOHN'S PLAN.

I'VE GOT FOUR PEOPLE THAT I'M GOING TO WORK WITH, AND THEN I'M GOING TO LOOK FOR THE REST.

AND IF WE EVERYTHING IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO GET SMALL MOM AND POPS.

IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO GET SMALLER ONES BECAUSE EVERYTHING WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH SPECIAL EXCEPTION, WHICH EVERYBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY 7000 OR 8000, WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE THEN PICKING AND CHOOSING EVERY SINGLE GOAL RETAILER THAT COMES IN.

WE MAY WE MAY SCARE OFF SOME DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE GOOD IDEAS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIKE, IT'S GOING TO BE TOO HARD FOR ME TO FILL THIS BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FILL THIS WITH 30 PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY 15,000 OR $6500, PLUS TAKE THIS TIME TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS I CAN DO, BECAUSE MAYBE I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND LOOK FOR A BOWLING ALLEY OR A MINIATURE GOLF OR VIRTUAL SPORTS EXTRA. I'M JUST READING OFF CAITLIN'S THING HERE, BUT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO GIVE SOME MORE USES THAT WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT A DEVELOPER CAN KIND OF WORK WITH. OTHERWISE, IN MY OPINION, WE'RE REALLY HANDCUFFING OURSELVES IN FINDING THE RIGHT DEVELOPER, BECAUSE WHAT DEVELOPERS PUSH IS THE TIMING. AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING YOU SAID, BUT THE QUESTION IS THE TIMING.

I DON'T SEE THIS AS A IMPENETRABLE FORTRESS THAT IF WE SAY ITS SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND A DEVELOPER COMES TO US IN RESPONSE TO AN RFP AND SAYS, HEY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE THINKING, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING, WE'D LIKE TO PUT AS, AS THIS ANCHOR TENANT, THIS ENTERTAINMENT, OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT FACILITY.

WE'D LIKE TO PUT AS THIS OTHER TENANT, THIS OTHER ONE, OR AT LEAST OPEN THAT UP.

WE CAN ALWAYS REVAMP THIS AT THAT TIME, EVEN IF WE DECIDE AT THAT TIME.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MODIFY IT. OR MAYBE ANTHONY HAS ANOTHER MIDDLE GROUND APPROACH, BUT I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY.

THERE'S THERE'S NO USE RIGHT TO ALL OF THESE THINGS.

THERE'S NO USE KNOWING WHAT SPECIFICALLY THEY ARE.

THEY'RE JUST FINISH. AND THEN THE OTHER ISSUE IS IS THIS I DON'T SEE THE 6500, ALTHOUGH I IMAGINE THAT'S MALLEABLE.

OR WE COULD ADDRESS THAT IN A DIFFERENT FACTOR.

BUT I DON'T SEE THAT AS BEING EITHER AN ISSUE WE CAN'T RESOLVE AND AGREE TO MITIGATE, OR THAT THAT SHOULD IMPEDE SOMEONE IF SOMEONE'S COMING TO LEASE SPACE IN THIS BRAND NEW VILLAGE. I DON'T KNOW THAT $6,500, IF THAT'S A DETERRENT TO THEM.

WE'VE GOT BIGGER FISH TO FRY. BUT. BUT ANTHONY IS THERE.

IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN SAY WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE OPEN.

HERE'S HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE IS OUR PERMITTED USES NOW FOR THIS DISTRICT.

WE HAVE OTHER USES THAT ARE BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION, BUT WE'RE OPEN DEVELOPER TO YOU PROPOSING CREATIVE USES ETCETERA FOR THIS SPACE.

COME TO US AND WE'LL TALK THROUGH THOSE AND, AND THE COMMISSION AND THE CITY STAFF.

AND CAITLIN AND HER TEAM WANT TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS TO CURATE THIS VILLAGE.

AND IF THAT MEANS AT A LATER TIME, WE'VE GOT TO MODIFY ONE OF THE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS, WE CAN DO THAT.

YEAH. SO THE THE PROCESS WOULD BE ONCE THIS ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED, IF THERE WAS A DESIRE TO MAKE A CHANGE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CHANGE FROM SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO A PERMITTED USE OR THE OR THE CONVERSE OF THAT, THEN THE PROCESS WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT TO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TODAY. WHERE IT WOULD BE DRAFTED, IT WOULD GO TO P AND Z.

IT WOULD COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR TWO READINGS.

YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A, YOU KNOW, A THREE MONTH PROCESS.

I'D SAY 3 TO 4 MONTH PROCESS, POTENTIALLY TO MAKE THAT CODE CHANGE.

I MEAN, BUT IF DESIRED, CAITLIN HAS SOME ITEMS LISTED HERE.

THERE'S NONE OF THESE THINGS YOU'RE WILLING TO PUT ON THE LIST.

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COME, BUT THE THE CHALLENGE BECOMES IS IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT AN INFERIOR PRODUCT THERE AS AN INDOOR, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE VICE MAYOR MENTIONED, WELL, INDOOR IS OKAY, BUT OUTDOOR IS NOT. I'D RATHER US BE PART OF THE CURATING PROCESS TO PUT A GREAT PRODUCT THERE. AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS MODIFY THAT LATER.

YOU KNOW, I ENVISION THE FROM WHAT I HEARD FROM CAITLIN IS WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS OUT.

THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO COME TO US WITH A MASTER PLAN, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT MASTER PLAN AND THEN READDRESS SOME OF THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE EVERY RETAILER WHEN THEY COME AND DEVELOP THIS.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE EVERY BUSINESS THAT THEY INTEND TO PUT THERE.

SO THAT WILL SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS. I LET ME, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF I CAN GO TO CINDY AND THEN WE'LL GO TO. YEAH. I'VE GOT SOME OTHER ISSUES ASIDE FROM THE USAGE, BUT WE CAN CIRCLE BACK TO THOSE.

NO. GO AHEAD. GO, GO GO ON THE OTHER THINGS AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK.

YEAH. I MEAN ONE OF THEM IS THE NOISE ISSUES.

AND CAITLIN, THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE DEAL WITH LATER ON IN THE PROCESS.

I'M NOT SURE. ARE THERE ANY ARE WE ADDRESSING BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING THIS AGAINST, ESPECIALLY ON THE WEST SIDE AND THE NORTH SIDE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE DO AT THIS PHASE, OR DO WE DO THAT LATER ON IN THE PROCESS WHERE WE ADDRESS HOW TO BUFFER NOISE, WHETHER WE REQUIRE FOUNTAINS IN THE WATERWAYS IN BETWEEN THE, THE ESPECIALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OR ANY OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

OR IS THAT ADDRESSED LATER? WELL, THAT'S THAT'S ADDRESSED IN THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.

YES. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP MITIGATE NOISE. ONE, WE DO HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD APPLY TO THIS PROPERTY, AS IT DOES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BUT ALSO THROUGH DESIGN AND THOUGHTFUL DESIGN.

YOU INTENTIONALLY MITIGATE NOISE THROUGH THE DESIGN OF THE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS THAT PATTY'S WEIGHED IN ON, WHETHER THAT'S THE SIZE AND THE MATERIALS AND THE DENSITY OF THOSE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS, AS WELL AS THE SETBACKS.

AND THE LOCATION OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW ARE GOING TO MAKE NOISE, LIKE SOME OF THE STIPULATIONS ABOUT WHERE LOADING ZONES CAN BE.

WE ALSO DO HAVE SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT THE ORIENTATION OF CERTAIN USES THAT WOULD PRECLUDE THEM FROM BEING ORIENTED TOWARDS THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE TACKLE NOISE.

BUT THE LARGEST THING IS WE DO HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE THAT APPLIES.

WILL WE, AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THE NEXT PHASE, AFTER WE LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN, BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS OF THAT IN A SUBSEQUENT PROCESS? ANY DEVELOPER THAT COMES IN WHEN THEY PROVIDE A SITE PLAN, THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THAT AT THAT POINT TO SAY, WE WANT MORE BUFFERING, WE WANT THIS, WE WANT THAT.

IF IT'S NOT. SO THAT'S WE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING AT THIS JUNCTURE.

YEAH. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER ISSUE THAT AND CAITLIN YOU RAISED IT.

THIS WILL BE POTENTIALLY THE ONLY AREA IN THE CITY WHERE WE HAVE, AGAIN, POTENTIALLY VALET PARKING.

I DO I HAVE SEEN IN VARIOUS COMMERCIAL SPACES.

THAT THE VALET PARKING, BECAUSE IT'S A FOR PROFIT BUSINESS, WINDS UP TAKING UP AS MUCH SPACE AND ATTENTION OF A PARKING AREA AS POSSIBLE.

AND OFTENTIMES THE RESTAURANTS DO WELL WITH IT, BUT THE OTHER BUSINESSES SUFFER FROM IT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER 20% OR 25% IS THE RIGHT NUMBER, BUT I WOULD RATHER THEM COME BEFORE US WITH THE PROPOSAL FOR THE VALET PARKING THAN AGREE TO A HIGHER NUMBER AND HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, DOMINATED BY VALET PARKING VERSUS SELF PARKING AND HARM THE OTHER BUSINESSES THERE. THAT WAS MY ONLY ISSUE WITH THE 25%. ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE I MOVE TO CINDY OR NEIL? THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. COOL. COMMISSIONER MURPHY.

SALOMONE. YES. THANKS, MAYOR. SO THESE ARE THESE ARE USE CASES, AND THESE ARE OPTIONS, RIGHT? I MEAN, THESE ARE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO SAY.

WE WANT OPTIONS WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS, RATHER THAN THEM JUST BRINGING US OPTIONS, RIGHT? WELL, NO. BASICALLY HOW OUR CODE IS CURRENTLY, IF IT'S NOT LISTED RIGHT, IT'S NOT PERMITTED.

RIGHT. SO RIGHT. EXCEPTION. RIGHT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE SOME OPTIONS TO SAY, LOOK WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS.

WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS. WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS. WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS. YEAH. CORRECT. OKAY. SO WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO.

AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND THE FEE IN MY EYES.

I MEAN, COMMISSIONER BREYER, RESPECT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

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IT MIGHT BE. AND THAT MIGHT BE A MOM AND POP THAT WE WANT.

YOU KNOW, I'M JUST KIND OF MAKING A STATEMENT THERE, BUT IT ALSO MAKES SENSE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF FEE. BUT I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION, SUCH AS DEPARTMENT STORE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY THOUGHTS WITH ALL OF THIS IS WE DON'T.

AND I THINK YOU USED THE TERM IT'S PROBABLY A TERM, RIGHT.

BOX. BOX STORES. RIGHT. WE'RE NOT GOING FOR THAT.

RIGHT. WE'RE NOT GOING FOR EVEN NECESSARILY CHAIN RESTAURANTS.

THAT TYPE OF THING I THINK IS NOT OUR VISION.

SO WHEN I SEE DEPARTMENT STORE UNDER SPECIAL EXCEPTION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE A RANGE OF THINGS.

YEAH. SO OUR CODE HAS A VERY BROAD DEFINITION FOR DEPARTMENT STORES.

SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A MACY'S, WHICH IS WHAT COMES TO MY MIND ANYWAY WHEN YOU SAY DEPARTMENT STORE.

IT'S ANYTHING THAT'S ORGANIZED BASICALLY INTO SECTIONS AND CATEGORIES.

SO IT COULD BE LIKE ON THE MOST EXTREME SIDE, IT COULD BE LIKE A TOYS SECTION AND THEN LIKE A CLOSED SECTION OR YOU KNOW, THESE ARE JUST KIND OF OFF THE CUFF, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A MACY'S OR A JCPENNEY TYPE THING, IS WHAT OUR CODE IS CONTEMPLATING A DEPARTMENT STORE, AS IT'S JUST A STORE THAT'S ORGANIZED INTO BASICALLY USE CATEGORIES.

JUST KEEP IN KEEP IN MIND SPECIAL EXCEPTION. WE HAVE WE CAN JUST SAY NO BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE IT, RIGHT? SO HAVING IT AS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION ISN'T NECESSARILY A BAD THING, RIGHT? JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. YEAH, YOU HAVE SPECIAL EXCEPTION FACTORS IN YOUR CODE THAT YOU WOULD APPLY, AND THAT WOULD BE THE BASIS FOR YOUR DECISION WHETHER YES OR NO.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE USES THAT WE KIND OF LEFT AS IS.

IT'S IN OUR CURRENT CODE IN THE B1, B2, B3. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE REALLY HAVE ANYTHING THAT MEETS THE DEFINITION OF DEPARTMENT STORE, BUT WE DIDN'T AUTOMATICALLY STRIKE IT. BUT IF THERE IS DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION, WE COULD CHANGE THAT. THAT WAS A QUESTION THEN EDUCATIONAL OR VOCATIONAL INSTITUTION, ALSO A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

JUST WONDERING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND TUTORING SERVICE BECAUSE INITIALLY I THOUGHT, OH, THAT MUST BE SOME TYPE OF WELL PROBABLY LIKE THAT ROBOTICS PLACE IS EDUCATIONAL.

YEAH. SO THE CODE CODE NINJA OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED IS.

YEAH. SO THE CODE DOES HAVE DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS FOR EACH USE.

THE TUTORING IS MORE OF LIKE INDIVIDUAL 1 TO 1 INSTRUCTION AND EDUCATIONAL VOCATIONAL MIGHT BE LIKE A ZOOM.

SURE. YEAH. MEDICAL OFFICE SPACE. YOU KNOW, I SEE THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY WRITE SOME PARAMETERS AROUND THAT SPECIAL EXCEPTION. JUST THINK WE ALL SORT OF THOUGHT THE VISION TWO WOULDN'T BE ANY.

AGAIN, SOME OF IT SHE DIDN'T TAKE STUFF OUT OF THE CODE.

AND THAT'S WHY IT'S A SPECIAL EXCEPTION. I THINK WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE MORE WHAT WE COULD ADD THAN WHAT WE CAN DELETE.

YEAH. OKAY. PROFESSIONAL OFFICES. OKAY. SO THAT'S A P.

CAN ARE WE TALKING ABOUT LAW OFFICES THAT JUST.

CAN YOU GIVE ME. YEAH. SO A REALTOR OFFICE OR A SMALL BOUTIQUE FIRM OF SOME SORT, OR REALLY, THERE'S NO SIZE LIMITATION OTHER THAN. HOWEVER, THE DEVELOPER LAYS THE SPACE OUT.

BUT. YEAH, IT'S JUST GENERAL OFFICE SPACE. AND FAST FOOD.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I TEND TO LEAN TOWARDS REMOVAL.

BUT YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY OPEN TO AND I REALIZE WE'RE NOT BOUND BY THAT, SO I GUESS WE COULD KEEP IT.

BUT WHAT I ENVISION WITH THAT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S ALSO.

YEAH. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A STICKY WICKET.

AGAIN, GOING BACK TO OUR DEFINITIONS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD PROPOSED DURING FIRST AND SECOND READING IS TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU SOME ALTERNATE DEFINITIONS FOR CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO TO OUR LARGER LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND YOU READ THE DEFINITIONS FOR FAST FOOD AND FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT FAST FOOD IS A LOT OF THE PLACES THAT PEOPLE WOULD ENJOY FOR A QUICK LUNCH. SO OBVIOUSLY WE HOPE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF LUXURY DINNER TYPE ESTABLISHMENTS, BUT WE WANT TO BALANCE THAT WITH A LUNCH CROWD AS WELL.

SO WHETHER THAT'S DIFFERENT. YEAH, LIKE LIKE A LOS BOCADOS, NOT A LOS BOCADOS IS LIKE THE PERFECT IDEA OF LIKE WHERE.

YEAH. AND WE DO PRECLUDE DRIVE THRUS. SO YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAVE THE MCDONALD'S BECAUSE THOSE PLACES RELY ON THEM BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE DRIVE THROUGH.

BUT YEAH. CHIPOTLE. RIGHT. SO THOSE TYPES OF FASTER TURNOVER LUNCH PLACES, WHETHER IT'S A CHIPOTLE OR WHATEVER IT IS, THAT WOULD BE A FAST FOOD TECHNICALLY BASED ON OUR DEFINITIONS.

BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORWARD SOME ALTERNATE DEFINITIONS.

THAT KIND OF BUTTONS UP THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING FOR YOU.

AND AGAIN, I THINK WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH LIMITING BECAUSE WE CAN LIMIT IT.

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RESTRICTIVE. YEAH. LIKE WE TYPICALLY ARE. OKAY.

SO I HAVE TWO OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. BUILDING HEIGHT.

YES. WHEN IS THAT? OR YOU MENTIONED AND TALKED ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S BE SOMETHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.

RIGHT. THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR OR THERE IS A STANDARD FOR BUILDING HEIGHT IN YOUR ORDINANCE.

SO IT'S SIMILAR TO OUR B1, B2, B3 USES. WE DO ALLOW FOR A LIMITED NUMBER OF TWO STORY JUST TO GET THAT UNDULATION AT THE ROOF LEVEL AT THE SKYLINE, SO IT DOESN'T ALL LOOK FLAT AND PANCAKE LIKE, RIGHT? WE HOPE THAT THERE'S SOME UNDULATION AND VOLUMETRIC CHANGES SO THAT IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT MORE ORGANIC.

SO WE DO ALLOW FOR SOME TWO STORY, BUT WE WON'T ALLOW FOR EVERYTHING TO BE TWO STORY IN THE VILLAGE.

SO MOSTLY ONE STORY WITH SOME TO COMPLY WITH THAT.

AND YOU KNOW, I SAW THE ROOFTOP BAR. PERFECT EXAMPLE OF RIGHT.

SOMETHING THAT COULD REALLY ADD CHARACTER THAT WOULD LIKELY BE A TWO STORY.

OKAY. THAT'S. YEAH. IF A RESTAURANT HAD A BAR AND, YOU KNOW, LAST QUESTION.

BUT THE TRAFFIC PIECE, YOU KNOW, IT GOES, I THINK, WITH THE NOISE, BUT DIFFERENT.

RIGHT? AND THAT IS DOESN'T NECESSARILY FALL IN THE USE CASE CATEGORY, BUT I'M HOPING THAT WHATEVER THE TIMING IS, RIGHT. WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT. YEAH. SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC AND TIMES THAT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC STILL COMING UP, ESPECIALLY AT THE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT LEVEL. THE COUNTY REQUIRES CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS IN THE ADJACENT RIGHTS OF WAY THAT WILL HAVE TO COMMIT TO AND COMMIT A FUTURE DEVELOPER TO AS WELL AS TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUAL TRAFFIC STUDIES WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THE SITE PLAN LEVEL.

SO YOU'LL PROBABLY HEAR MORE ABOUT TRAFFIC THAN YOU CARE TO BY THE TIME YOU'RE DONE WITH THIS.

YEAH. YEP. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO NEIL.

AND THEN IF WE'RE SO INCLINED WE'LL ADD WE'LL LOOK TO ADD SOME USES IF THAT'S AHEAD NEIL.

THANKS, MAYOR. THE ONLY SPECIFIC ISSUE ON THE USE TABLE THAT I THAT I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IS THE MOBILE VENDOR, ONE I SEE HERE AS AN ACCESSORY TO AN ALREADY PERMITTED USE? THAT SEEMS LIKE. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TO YOU? LIKE, IS IT A FOOD CART OUT IN FRONT OF YOUR NORMAL RESTAURANT OR.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. YEAH. SO. AND JOHN COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO THIS FROM HIS EXPERIENCE, BUT LET ME PULL UP THE PLAN FOR YOU A LITTLE BIT, BUT ACTUALLY IS DEFINED IN THANK YOU.

OKAY. IF YOU HAVE GLASSES AND YOU HAVE REALLY GOOD EYES ALONG.

YEAH. ALONG THE, THE PARK THERE IN THE FOREFRONT OF THE PARK, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT LOOKS LIKE KIOSKS.

SO IT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM LIKE A ROLLAWAY CART.

AND IF YOU'VE BEEN TO, LIKE SEACREST IN SEASIDE UP IN 38, YOU SEE A LOT OF THESE TYPES OF THINGS THAT MAYBE IT'S LIKE A COFFEE OR A DONUT PLACE, AND THEY CLOSE DOWN AND YOU ROLL THEM AWAY, OR IT'S FOR SPECIAL EVENTS FOR TRUE FOOD TRUCKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEY WOULD HAVE MAYBE DESIGNATED POURED PADS THAT THEY COME INTO.

SO THEY'RE NOT TAKING UP EXISTING PARKING SPACES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT IT'S IT'S ALL FOR CURRENT TENANTS OF THE BUILDING THAT HAVE A PERMITTED USE ALREADY.

IT COULD BE FOR, SAY, THERE'S A COFFEE SHOP ON ONE SIDE AND THEY WANTED A CART ON THE OTHER SIDE.

OR IT COULD BE THAT THE CENTER AS A WHOLE IS HAVING AN EVENT, AND THEY WANT TO HAVE SOME KIOSKS COME IN.

MAYBE WE'RE DOING A CRAFT FAIR AS THE CITY IN THE MIDDLE AND THE ICE CREAM PLACE WANTS TO ROLL OUT.

IT COULD BE ACCESSORY TO THE CENTER OR IT COULD BE A ONE OFF.

LIKE I SAID, IF THERE IS A TENANT THAT WANTS A CART AT THE OTHER END, THEY COULD HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL CART AS WELL.

YEAH. THIS IS THE PROBLEM HERE ALSO IS THAT WE'RE THIS IS SORT OF A SQUARE PEG, ROUND HOLE SITUATION WHERE THIS ISN'T A DISTRICT WE'VE EVER HAD BEFORE IN THE CITY'S CODE IS WRITTEN TO BE QUITE RESTRICTIVE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO SORT OF MAKE THIS FIT WITHIN IT.

NO, NO, THAT'S A NEW ONE ALTOGETHER. ACTUALLY NOT. WELL, NO. CORRECT. WE'RE MAKING A NEW DISTRICT. WE'RE NOT. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN SOMEWHERE, YOU'VE SEEN SOMETHING, RIGHT? THIS LOOKS THIS WOULD BE COOL IF WE HAD THIS IN PARKLAND OR WHATEVER. RIGHT? THE RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE THIS. LIKE, ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE. THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TOWARDS.

ABSOLUTELY. THE CUMBERSOME NATURE OF A SPECIAL EXCEPTION PERMIT.

IT'S IT'S A CONCERN IN LIMITING WHAT KIND OF VENDORS WOULD BE WILLING TO TRY THIS.

AND THAT'S THAT'S A CONCERN OF MINE IS THIS IS SOMETHING NEW AND SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

AND I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DO SOMETHING NEW AND SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND I THINK IT'S EXCITING. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. SO. YEAH. IF I COULD INTERJECT. I MEAN, MY, MY TAKE IS TO LEAVE THE USES AS IS.

I MEAN, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE BILLIARD ONE BEING AN ACCESSORY USE BECAUSE I, I DON'T REALLY APPRECIATE OR KNOW THAT WE WANT A BILLIARD ROOM, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ONE. BUT I WOULD LEAVE THE OTHERS AS IS.

I MEAN, THE WAY IT'S BEEN EXPLAINED TO ME AND ANTHONY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IS THAT SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS GIVES US AS THE COMMISSION THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF OF DEFERENCE.

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ANTHONY, I COULD BE GETTING THAT WRONG. YOU'LL CORRECT ME IF I AM, AND MAKING A DECISION.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US PUTTING OUT THE WORD THAT WE'RE OPEN TO WE'RE OPEN TO CREATIVE USES.

WE'RE OPEN TO A DEVELOPER COMING TO US AND SAYING, THIS SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING YOU ALLOW AND NOT BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE IS, IS WHEN YOU WHEN YOU AGREE TO ALLOW THEM TO BE PERMITTED OR PERMITTED USE BY RIGHT.

YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE TYPE OF FACILITY THAT GOES THERE.

SO IF WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW A BOWLING ALLEY OR AN ENTERTAINMENT FACILITY OR MINIATURE GOLF FACILITY THERE, WHETHER INDOOR OR OUTDOOR, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHO THAT TENANT, WHO THAT PROJECT IS.

IF WE WERE SPECIAL EXCEPTION, WE DO. AND SO THAT TO ME IS, IS THE THE CURATING AND CONTROL PIECE THAT THERE'S NO UPSIDE FOR US TO GIVE IT UP AT THIS POINT, OTHER THAN A DEVELOPER COMING BACK TO US AND SAY, HEY, I'D REALLY LIKE TO PUT SOMETHING HERE.

AND YOU GUYS HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF IT, BUT IT'S A CREATIVE NEW THING WE'RE DOING IN OTHER PLACES. WE THINK IT WOULD GO GREAT HERE AND WE CAN AT THAT POINT MAKE A DECISION.

YOU KNOW WHAT? WE AGREE. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT A PERMITTED USE I THINK. BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT AT THE OUTSET.

I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT I WOULD HAVE ZERO PROBLEM SEEING KNOWING WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WE'RE BUILDING, KNOWING OF WHAT TYPE OF CLIENTELE IS GOING TO BE THERE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET SOMETHING THAT ISN'T HIGHER END.

WE'RE ALREADY SENT THAT MESSAGE BY NOT LISTING ADDITIONAL THINGS, BY SAYING, YEAH, WE COULD DO OUTDOOR STUFF, BUT EVERYTHING IS BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION. THAT, TO ME, SENDS THE ABSOLUTE POSITIVELY WRONG MESSAGE, BECAUSE ANY DEVELOPER CAN COME BACK AND LISTEN TO OUR MEETINGS AND SAY, SOME OF THESE PEOPLE DON'T WANT ANYTHING.

I DON'T EVEN WANT TO GET INVOLVED BECAUSE IT'S TOO MUCH.

IT'S TOO MUCH OF AN EFFORT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT CAITLIN'S CHART, I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT CAITLIN'S SLIDE.

SO EXAMPLE OF OUTDOOR USES WOULD BE MINIATURE GOLF.

THERE'S A BIG DISPARITY IN WHAT'S GOOD MINIATURE GOLF VERSUS NOT PLAYGROUND.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT ONE. SPORTS COURTS AND FIELDS OR AMPHITHEATER? I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND MINIATURE GOLF BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A BUSINESS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW A PLAYGROUND OR A SPORT FIELD.

WE'RE GOING TO LET JOHN TALK FOR A MINUTE. YEAH, I HAVE A I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS ON, ON THIS SUBJECT IN GENERAL.

I THINK THAT FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO REMOVE AS MUCH UNCERTAINTY FOR THE DEVELOPER THAT WE WANTED TO TABLE.

THE THING WE HAVE TO REMEMBER HERE IS THAT WHEN WHEN WE GO OUT FOR RFQ, YOUR DEVELOPER IS NOT GOING TO COME IN AND TELL YOU IT'S THIS TENANT.

THAT TENANT, THIS TENANT, THAT TENANT, HE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE AN LOI.

HE'S NOT AUTHORIZED TO SAY THAT IN PUBLIC. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT.

WHAT WE ARE GOING TO KNOW IS, IS HOPEFULLY WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN, WHAT THEY'VE DEVELOPED, AND ARE THEY IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS A CITY? DO THESE GUYS UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO? AND HAVE THEY DEMONSTRATED THE ABILITY TO DO THAT? SO YOU KNOW, WE WON'T WE WON'T KNOW WHO THE TENANTS ARE IN THIS PROJECT UNTIL AFTER YOU'VE SELECTED THE DEVELOPER AND THEY'VE COME IN WITH THEIR PLAN.

AND EVEN AT THAT POINT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW ALL THOSE TENANTS, BECAUSE UNTIL HE'S FARTHER DOWN THE ROAD AND UNTIL YOU'RE CLOSER TO WHEN THIS PROJECT IS REALIZED, THESE TENANTS AREN'T GOING TO COMMIT.

YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW I'M WORKING ON MIRAMAR DOWN THE ROAD.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK, WE HAVE OUR APPROVALS, WE'RE READY TO START CONSTRUCTION.

WE DON'T KNOW WHO OUR TENANTS ARE YET. WE KNOW WHO WE THINK WE WANT, BUT WE'RE AS A CITY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT. WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW IS, IS THE IS THE SCALE AND EXPERIENCE.

AND ARE THEY SAYING AND HAVE THEY DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY CAN DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

AND SO AND I THINK THE OTHER ISSUE IS THERE'S THERE'S TENANTS OUT THERE THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT TODAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO WANT IN THIS PROJECT.

NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. AND IF WE PUT TOO MANY ROADBLOCKS UP ON WHAT IT IS TO GET THESE GUYS APPROVED, TIME KILLS ALL DEALS. AND IT'S SO HARD NOW TO DO IT.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD I WOULD JUST BE BE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT BEING NOT ALLOWING THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO WANT DOWN THE ROAD. DON, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION REAL QUICK? SO, YEAH, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND. OBVIOUSLY SOME DEVELOPERS COME IN WITH THEIR PLANS OR IDEAS OF TENANTS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, WE'VE EVEN SPOKEN. YOU SAID SOME DEVELOPERS HAVE LIKE, ALMOST LIKE A CERTAIN RELATIONSHIP, LET'S SAY. ALL RIGHT, IF I'M DOING THIS, I HAVE THIS STORE AND THIS RESTAURANT THAT USUALLY ARE MY KIND OF PARTNERS WHO I WORK WITH. RIGHT.

BUT IS IT ALSO POSSIBLE THAT SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER MAY PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, RELATIONSHIPS AND BRING IN TENANTS,

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RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH. SO AND I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO THE MOM AND POP, WHICH IS I STILL THINK A CRITICAL COMPONENT, BECAUSE I PERSONALLY THINK A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL ELEMENTS IN PARKLAND RIGHT NOW ARE OF THE MOM AND POP ILK THAT, YOU KNOW, YES, WE DO WANT TO ATTRACT SOME OF, YOU KNOW, HIGH SCALE RESTAURANTS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHATEVER. BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAINTAIN SOME ELEMENT OF, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY FOR FOR PEOPLE WHO COME IN AND WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A COMMERCIAL STORE OR COMMERCIAL VENUE, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, IN PARKLAND THAT ARE NOT A BIG NATIONAL DEVELOPER.

SO I LIKE TO HAVE THAT DICHOTOMY. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER BRIER, TO YOUR POINT, I UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF HAVING CONTROL, BUT I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA TO THE MAYOR'S POINT OF HAVING THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO SEE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND ARE MORE ARE MORE EXCITED ABOUT THE THE BLANK CANVAS, SO TO SPEAK, RATHER THAN THE LIMITATIONS.

AND THEN THEM SAYING, WELL, I HAD THESE IDEAS, BUT I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY'LL THEY'LL GO FOR IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SEEMING LIKE THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND JUST GOING BACK TO THE TABLE, WE HAVE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT LESS THAN 25,000 SQUARE FOOT AS A PERMANENT RIGHT.

BUT THEN WE HAVE A DEPARTMENT STORE AND PERSONAL SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT AS A SPECIAL SECTION.

IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO ME BECAUSE RETAIL AND DEPARTMENT COULD KIND OF BE CONSIDERED THE SAME.

RIGHT? YEAH. SO THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION IS HOW IT'S CURRENTLY FORMATTED FOR OUR B1, B2, B3, BUT CERTAINLY OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AS TO ONE, WHETHER YOU WANT TO KEEP THE DEPARTMENT STORE USE OR IF YOU WANTED TO CHANGE THE USE TYPE TO PERMITTED. THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ADJUST.

IT'S I THINK IT'S MORE GRANULAR IN THE DEFINITION OF WHAT.

YEAH. BECAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY I THINK SOMEONE'S GOING TO LIKE, FIND A FIND A WAY TO FUDGE THAT, BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE GOT TO LOOK MORE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO GET MORE INTO THAT, WE GOT TO LOOK. YEAH, I WORRY SOME OF THESE.

WE WANT MORE EXPLANATION. I THINK RETAIL OF 25,000 SQUARE FOOT JUST ISN'T RIGHT.

THAT TO ME IS A LITTLE SCARY, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS THAT IF THEY COME IN AND THEY SAY, HEY, I WANT TO COME AND HAVE YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW, GIVE AN EXAMPLE.

RIGHT? LIKE, LIKE A CLOTHING STORE OR SOMETHING.

NOT TO SAY WE SHOULDN'T HAVE CLOTHING STORES, BUT NUMBER ONE, I THINK IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SIZE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS I GOT TO THINK IT OUT MORE.

I JUST, I WAS KIND OF FINDING IT ODD THAT I THINK SOME YOU SAID FOR PERSONAL SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT COULD BE LIKE AN EYEGLASSES STORE, WHICH TO ME COULD BE READ AS A RETAIL STORE. I THINK SO, LIKE THE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT.

TO YOUR POINT, SOMEBODY IS NOT GOING TO OPEN A CLOTHING STORE AT 25,000FT² BECAUSE IT WOULD TURN INTO A DEPARTMENT STORE.

SO BUT THAT'S THAT'S MY POINT. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO USE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO USE THE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT PERMITTED AS OF RIGHT, AS A KIND OF A ROUNDABOUT OF FINDING OTHER THINGS THAT ARE BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

SAY, OH, NO, NO, THIS IS A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT. AND AGAIN, I KNOW THE DEFINITION. THAT'S WHAT WE DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT. WHEN THE PERMITS COME IN, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DEFINITIONS AND WE TELL THEM IF THEY FIT THIS DEFINITION OR NO, YOU'RE REALLY THAT DEFINITION.

AND THE RETAIL IS THE DEFINITION FOR RETAIL IS WHAT'S PROBABLY 80% OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN PARKLAND MINUS THE RESTAURANTS.

RIGHT. SO A LOT OF WHAT'S IN PARKLAND IS UNDER THE RETAIL.

AND THAT IS CURRENTLY JUST A STREET BY RIGHT.

PERMITTED USE. YEAH, I GET THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT I'M FINE WITH MY LAST COMMENT.

VICE MAYOR. I MEAN, THIS GETS TO SORT OF MY CONCERNS WHEN YOU START DELINEATING WHAT YOU'LL ACCEPT VERSUS THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION DEFAULT.

THEN YOU YOU GET MORE IN MY, IN MY VIEW, LIMITING LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW YOU KNOW, I LIKE THAT THE DEPARTMENT STORES ARE SPECIAL EXCEPTION. IF SOMEBODY COMES WITH A CREATIVE IDEA AND WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT FINE RETAIL, IF WE WANT TO SAY, I MEAN, THIS IS GOING TO GOING TO BE THE MOST UNIQUE PROJECT WE HAVE IN ALL OF PARKLAND, BECAUSE THERE ARE GOING TO BE THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO PUT HERE THAT WE WOULDN'T PUT OTHER PLACES, BUT I DON'T WANT TO OPEN UP THOSE FLOODGATES.

AND I THINK DOING THE REVERSE, WHICH IS SAYING, OH, LET'S CARVE UP SOME USES THAT WE THINK SHOULD COME OUT OF THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

THOSE ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY FINITE AND LIMITING VERSUS SAYING, DEVELOPER COME TO US.

AND IF WE NEED TO CHANGE LATER FROM SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO PERMITTED BY RIGHT, BASED ON A NARROW DEFINITION OF WHAT YOU WANT TO PUT THERE, WE'LL DO THAT. COMMISSIONER BREYER, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IF I'M A DEVELOPER AND I SEE THIS PLAN AND EVERYTHING IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION, I'M NOT GOING TO WANT TO TOUCH IT BECAUSE YOU'RE TELLING ME BECAUSE THERE'S NOT.

I'M BEING GIVEN THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION. I'M BEING GIVEN RECREATION.

NO, I'M BEING GIVEN THE MESSAGE THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS ON EVERYTHING I TRY TO OPEN, AND THAT IS NOT GOING TO BRING THE RIGHT DEVELOPERS HERE.

WE CANNOT. WE CANNOT BE TOO RESTRICTIVE AND SAY IN BOWLING ALLEY IS NOT GOING TO GET A LOW RENT

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THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE CHARGING RENT TO A LOW RENT BOWLING ALLEY OR MINIATURE GOLF, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THEIR MONEY BACK.

SO THAT'S NOT IT CANNOT HAPPEN. IT'S JUST THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.

IF WE TRY TO BE TOO RESTRICTIVE, WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH A NO FRILLS PROJECT.

NO IFS, ANDS OR BUTS ABOUT IT. SO WE CAN KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH IF WE WANT TO ADD SOME THINGS TO THE TABLE, LET'S ADD SOME THINGS TO THE TABLE. IF WE DON'T, WE WON'T.

SORRY, I TAKE A VOTE. I JUST I'M SORRY. I JUST GOT TO FINISH MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

I THINK WHAT WAS GOING IN MY HEAD FOR THE RETAIL SESSION.

I'D LIKE TO SEE US REDUCE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE SIZE.

SO THAT WAY, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO BE BIGGER THAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK 25,000 BY PERMITTED.

RIGHT. I THINK IS A VERY BIG I MEAN, THAT'S A I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DEFINE A BIG BOX STORE, BUT 25,000FT² IS A LARGE SPACE. SO I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO REDUCE THAT SIZE TO MAKE IT A PERMANENT.

RIGHT. BUT IF THEY WANT TO GO ABOVE IT, BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION, I CAN TELL YOU WHY THE 25,000FT IS IN THERE, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IS WE WOULD LOVE TO GET A GOURMET GROCER.

I THINK YOU ALL WOULD LOVE TO GET A GOURMET GROCER. GOURMET GROCER IS ABOVE 25,000FT, AREN'T GOURMET GROCERS.

AND SO I THINK THAT NUMBER HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE ABILITY TO ATTRACT THAT KIND OF TENANT.

I THINK THAT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO, WHEN YOU TALK TO YOUR DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU WHAT'S YOUR VISION HERE? WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS PLACE IS GOING TO BE? WHAT ARE THE KIND OF USES THAT YOU WANT? AND IF SOMEBODY SAYS, I WANT A WANT A 25,000 SQUARE FOOT THING BECAUSE I WANT TO PUT A TJ MAXX IN HERE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WANT THAT DEVELOPER HERE, RIGHT? AND I DON'T.

SO I'M NOT SURE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THING IS A PROBLEM.

I THINK AGAIN, THIS GOES BACK TO THE FLEXIBILITY OF SAYING, IF I WANT TO GO AFTER ONE OF THESE GUYS FROM A GOURMET GROCERY STANDPOINT, WHICH WOULD BE REALLY GREAT TO HAVE HERE, I WANT TO LIMIT EVERY BARRIER I CAN TO GET HIM IN THIS PROJECT.

I AM WITH YOU 1,000%. IN FACT, THAT'S ONE OF MY TOP PRIORITIES IS A GOURMET GROCER.

WHAT I'D PREFER TO DO THEN IS MAKE A SEPARATE LINE ITEM FOR GOURMET, FOR GROCERY OR GROCERY STORE, AND THEN MAKE RETAIL BE SEPARATE FROM THAT. SO ADD THAT TO YOUR THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO.

AND THEN THEN WE REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS. SO THAT WAY GROCER I'M ALL ABOUT THAT.

I JUST DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO COME IN AND USE THAT RETAIL EXCEPTION AS PERMITTED.

THIS IS WHAT THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.

WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THINGS WE WANT AND NOT THINGS WE DON'T WANT.

SO IF WE WANT A GOURMET GROCER, WE SHOULD BE ADDING THAT TO THE LIST.

IF THERE'S A SQUARE FOOTAGE. IF WE KEEP LOOKING AT THINGS WE DON'T WANT, WE'RE GOING TO END UP HAVING NO OPTIONS AND REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPERS AND THE QUALITY. I AGREE. I AGREE, BUT WITH THAT SAID, I AM GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING I DON'T WANT.

I THINK I COULD LIVE WITHOUT A PET SHOP. WE HAVE A PET SHOP IN PARKLAND.

I YOU KNOW, I THINK HAVING A PET SHOP IN A VILLAGE SPACE CAN CREATE, YOU KNOW, SOME CHALLENGES WHEN YOU HAVE LIVE ANIMALS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE PETS THAT YOU KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW PETS, BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. THAT WOULD BE MY JUST MY THOUGHT. BUT I MEAN, THERE'S SOME NICE ONES, OF COURSE. I HAVE NO I LOVE PETS, THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THAT.

BUT WE HAVE A PET STORE. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE AND JOHN, I GUESS IT'S FOR YOU OR ANTHONY IF SOMETHING'S PERMITTED AS OF.

RIGHT. WHAT WHAT CONTROL DOES THE CITY HAVE IF SOMEONE COMES IN AND SAYS, HEY, I WANT TO COME HERE AND SELL, YOU KNOW, SNOW GLOBES AND I HAVE A GREAT DEAL.

YOU SAID YOUR RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT IS BELOW, YOU KNOW, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. I'M GOING TO COME AND SELL SNOW GLOBES.

WHAT DO WE. SO IF THEY SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION, I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY THEY DON'T NEED ANY APPROVAL FROM THE CITY COMMISSION FOR THAT USE.

THEY DON'T NEED ANY APPROVAL OR REVIEW BY THE BY THE P AND Z FOR THAT USE, AS LONG AS THEY MEET WHATEVER THE APPLICABLE CODE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR THAT PARTICULAR USE AND THE PARTICULAR LOCATION. THEN THEY JUST MOVED A BUILDING PERMIT, THEY SUBMIT A BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION AND IT GETS PROCESSED AND THEY WOULD BUILD ACCORDING TO CODE SOMETIMES, RARELY. SOMETIMES IT HAPPENS IF THERE'S AN EXISTING SPACE.

LET'S SAY THIS THING IS ALREADY OPERATING. IT'S 2 OR 3 YEARS LATER AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE TENANTS LEAVES, ANOTHER TENANT COMES IN. MAYBE THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO DO A BUNCH OF IMPROVEMENTS.

MAYBE IT'S JUST A CERTIFICATE OF USE AT THAT POINT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IF IT'S THE SAME, YOU KNOW, OR SIMILAR USE WHERE THEY'RE NOT MAKING STRUCTURAL.

THIS COMES BACK TO PICKING THE RIGHT DEVELOPER, AND WE NEED TO FOSTER AN ENVIRONMENT THAT THE TOP DEVELOPERS WANT TO COME TO.

AND IF WE CONTINUE TO TRY TO FIND REASONS TO NOT HAVE SOMETHING, WE'RE LIMITING OURSELVES TO WHO WILL COME HERE.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND. THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY.

I HEAR YOU, MAN. BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY TO THREAD THAT NEEDLE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PICK EVERY RETAILER THAT COMES HERE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY TO DO THAT NEEDLE TO SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE VICE MAYOR SAID, I AGREE WITH IT. WE CAN GET A GOURMET MEAL.

IT'S A GOURMET FOOD STORE. THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENT FOR THE RIGHT DEVELOPER.

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YOU IF YOU FOSTER THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENT, YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.

IF WE ARE RESTRICTIVE AND IF WE TRY TO MICROMANAGE THE PROCESS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE HIGH END DEVELOPERS.

IT'S FACT. IT'S THAT'S THERE'S NOTHING THERE'S NOT MUCH OF A DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THIS IS NOT THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT THAT GETS BUILT.

AND YOU CAN SEE YOU CAN WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING BUILT IN BOCA AND IT'S A HIGH END PLACE.

WHAT GOES THERE? HIGH END RETAILERS. IF YOU BUILD SOMETHING IN BEVERLY HILLS.

NO OFFENSE, COMMISSIONER OR VICE MAYOR, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET SOMEBODY SELLING SNOW GLOBES.

SO THE CITY PERSONALLY LIKE SNOW GLOBES. THE DEVELOPER WE PICK IS NOT GOING TO SELL BROWN BAGS.

IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT IF WE CONTINUE TO TRY TO MICROMANAGE THIS PROJECT, WE'RE GOING TO SCARE OFF DEVELOPERS.

AND IT'S IT'S THAT IT IS. I THINK YOU'RE UNDERSELLING THE ATTRACTION THAT DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO THE PROJECT, ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN SAY, LISTEN, SOME OF THESE THINGS.

HERE'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN A LOT OF RETAIL PROJECTS. FOR ALL THESE THINGS, WE CAN PUT A LIST TOGETHER. BUT I THINK THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME WAY TO SAY, WHILE THESE THINGS MAY BE SPECIAL EXCEPTION, NOW WE'RE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN YOUR PROPOSAL AND WILLING TO CHANGE THAT DESIGNATION.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT PROPOSAL. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WRONG THING.

WE'RE WORRYING ABOUT TENANTS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPER.

OUR FOCUS SHOULD BE HOW CAN WE GET THE BEST DEVELOPER? THAT'S WHO'S GOING TO DRIVE THIS PROJECT. A SNOW GLOBE PLACE, A CHIPOTLE, A STARBUCKS.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DRIVE THIS PROJECT. THE DEVELOPER DRIVES THIS PROJECT.

WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO BRING THE BEST DEVELOPERS IN.

I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT JUST THE ONE POINT I'M SORRY, IS THAT IF THERE ARE OTHER BAYS OR, YOU KNOW, SPACES THAT ARE NOT FILLED BY A DEVELOPER, JUST REMEMBER THAT THE DEVELOPER, YES, WE CAN ATTRACT AND THEY MAY HAVE CERTAIN THINGS THEY BRING WITH THEM, BUT IT MAY NOT BE THE ENTIRETY OF THE VILLAGE. NO, THE DEVELOPER WILL ULTIMATELY HAVE THE RETAILER.

SO THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO BE WORKING WITH WE'VE SEEN OTHER DEVELOPERS START WITH A HIGH A HIGHER END PROJECT AND THEN GO DOWNHILL.

THE PROMENADE IS ONE. THEY HAD RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS LIKE LIKE BANANA REPUBLIC AND OTHER ONES.

AND THEN WHEN THEY WENT OUT, THEY STARTED FILLING IT WITH OTHER TENANTS.

THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD VIEW AS NOT LUXURY OR HIGHER END.

AND THOSE ARE THE CONCERNS. WELL, THAT'S GOING TO MEAN IF WE TRY TO MICROMANAGE ANOTHER COMMENT TO REMEMBER.

AND I MEAN, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT, LOOK, IF WE, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL EXCEPTION, THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE IS YOU ALL MAY NOT BE HERE IN FIVE YEARS. AND NOW THE DEVELOPER IS TRYING TO DECIDE WHO THEY'RE DOING BUSINESS WITH TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

SO IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON WHO WHO'S GOING TO COME TO THE TABLE BASED ON WHAT CERTAINTIES THEY HAVE AS TO AS THEY MOVE, AS THEY MOVE FORWARD. SO IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. AND IT'S VERY INTERESTING. YOU MENTIONED THE SORT OF THE PET STORE THING, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT COMMENT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, ONE OF THE LARGEST GROWING BUSINESSES IN THE WORLD IS PETS. AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY PEOPLE ARE SPENDING ON THEIR PETS AND THE KIND OF NOW WE'RE DOING GOURMET PET STORE THINGS. SO IT'S THAT, THAT KIND OF THING. SO YOU'RE GOING LIKE, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, I DON'T WANT THAT. BUT THEN I'M GOING, WHAT'S COMING AND HOW DO I ALLOW IT AND TO DO THAT? SO I DON'T I DON'T THINK YOU'RE RISKING VERY MUCH AT ALL BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW AT THIS POINT, YOUR RISK IS. AND I KNOW, MARY, YOU'VE SAID IT.

YOUR RISK IS WHO'S YOUR DEVELOPER? BECAUSE I CAN PUT ALL THIS STUFF IN PLACE.

AND IF I DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT DEVELOPER, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A GOOD PROJECT, PERIOD. AND THE ADVANTAGE YOU HAVE THAT YOU USUALLY DON'T HAVE IS YOU GET TO PICK THE DEVELOPER, AND OFTENTIMES YOU DON'T GET THAT THE DEVELOPER PICKS THE LAND AND NOW YOU'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH THAT DEVELOPER. SO I WOULD FOCUS ON EVERYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP THOSE GUYS SUCCEED, TO CREATE WHAT I WANT AS A VISION FOR MY COMMUNITY AND WHAT I WANT HERE.

THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHERE I THINK YOU'RE THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO WIN. AND JUST I'D LIKE TO ADD ATTRACTING A HIGH END DEVELOPER.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PETS AND HOW BIG.

RIGHT. THESE TRENDS OF WHAT SUCCEEDS BECAUSE THE OTHER PIECE THAT I'VE SEEN TOO MANY TIMES ARE THESE, YOU KNOW, VILLAGES OR THESE AREAS THAT DON'T SUCCEED, THE BUSINESSES DON'T SUCCEED.

SO ENTICING THE RIGHT DEVELOPER, THE HIGH END DEVELOPER THAT WILL HELP US TO GET THOSE BUSINESSES IN.

RIGHT. THAT HOPEFULLY WE'LL SUCCEED. BUT THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT WE'RE WILLING, RIGHT? THAT WE NEED TO KNOW THAT WE'RE WILLING. WE WANT TO HEAR, TO JUST SAY WE'RE WILLING TO LISTEN AND DO WHATEVER.

BUT EVERYTHING'S A SPECIAL EXCEPTION THAT IS COUNTER INTUITIVE.

THEN MAYBE HERE'S THE HYBRID AND HERE WOULD BE MY PROPOSAL.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I'LL MOVE TO POSTPONE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH KATELYN PROVIDING WITH JOHN'S HELP.

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BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD A GOURMET GROCER PERMITTED BY RIGHT, I'D BE OKAY WITH THAT SUBJECT TO SOME SIZE RESTRICTIONS IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD CERTAIN INDOOR OR OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT USES AS A MATTER OF PERMITTED.

RIGHT. MAYBE THOSE ARE OKAY. AND THEN THE GENERAL CAVEAT IS IF IT'S NOT IN THAT LIST, IT'S A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

BUT WITHOUT SEEING A DEFINED LIST OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW TO COME HERE AS A MATTER PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN MAKE ANY DECISION UNTIL WE HAVE A NARROW LIST.

WELL, THIS HAS TWO READINGS. AND IN THIS FIRST READING.

JUST WHAT'S ON THE ON THE SCREEN? HERE IS WHAT WE SUGGEST FOR BY RIGHT USES.

SO SO THE STAFF IS ASKING US TO ADD THINGS TO THE LIST.

THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO SAY I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT THERE.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT THERE.

THAT'S WHAT STAFF IS TELLING US TO DO. THERE'S A SECOND READING.

WE CAN MODIFY THE LIST IN THE SECOND READING, ADD MORE, TAKE SOME OFF WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO.

BUT WE HAVE TWO READINGS. THERE'S ALREADY A LIST OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF WANTS TO ADD, PLUS THE LIST THAT'S HERE. AND AGAIN WE HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AT SECOND READING.

BUT TO ME I'D LIKE EVERYTHING THAT THAT STAFF HAS PUT TOGETHER AS FAR AS, ADDED USES.

I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT LIKE A WINERY OR OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE A COOPER'S HAWK, FOR INSTANCE.

YES. THAT'S A RESTAURANT WITH, YOU KNOW, WINE THAT'S PERMITTED AS SO SINCE, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, COOPER'S HAWK ISN'T LIKE MAKING ALCOHOL ON SITE.

RIGHT? THEY'RE A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT. AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE THE LIQUOR COMPONENT, WHICH WOULD JUST FALL UNDER THE FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT COMPONENT.

BUT TO GO OFF OF THAT, THE NEXT SLIDE DID TALK ABOUT ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENTS FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T FULL SERVICE RESTAURANTS.

AND I THINK THAT COMPONENT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST CONSIDERING AS AN ACCESSORY USE AS WELL.

THAT, I THINK, IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD DEFINITELY ADD AS AN ACCESSORY USE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A BOWLING ALLEY, FOR INSTANCE, OR MINIATURE GOLF.

I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T MIND TO HAVE A GLASS OF WINE WHILE I'M BOWLING OR PLAYING MINIATURE GOLF.

IT HELPS YOUR SCORE RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW, OR YOU KNOW, LASER.

WELL, MAYBE NOT LASER TAG, BUT HEY, MAYBE I CAN WEAR ONE OF THOSE HATS.

SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. YEAH. SO THE WAY THAT WE CAME TO THIS LIST WAS WE IDENTIFIED WHAT WE FELT WAS INHERENTLY COMPATIBLE AND DIDN'T HAVE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING CENTER OR VILLAGE OR THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES.

AND THESE ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY LOW NOISE. THEY'RE GOING TO ESPECIALLY THE INDOOR USES.

THE OUTDOOR USES WE KEPT MORE LIMITED TO THE DISCUSSION POINT THAT WAS MADE BY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS EARLIER.

RIGHT. IT IT'S LIMITED ON PURPOSE. RIGHT. BUT TO COMMISSIONER BREYER'S POINT, THE WAY THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND CONSIDERING THIS WOULD BE TO HAVE BASICALLY THREE LINE ITEMS INSTEAD OF ONE.

AND YOU WOULD HAVE USE I WOULD BE A LITTLE HESITANT WITH SHOCKER THAT I SAID I WOULD BE HESITANT.

SPORTS COURTS? SURE. SO ONLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PICK OUTDOOR PICKLEBALL PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE VERY INTERESTING.

INDOOR WOULD BE AWESOME. OUTDOOR WOULD NOT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NEXT DOOR TO A RESTAURANT OR WHATEVER, I THINK, OR BASKETBALL EVEN FOR THAT MATTER, IT MIGHT GET A LITTLE CUMBERSOME.

YOU KNOW, IF IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO SOMETHING ELSE. UNDERSTOOD.

SO WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST MOVING FORWARD BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, IS THAT WE PROVIDE THREE LINE ITEMS FOR AMUSEMENT AND ENTERTAINMENT AND RECREATION USES RATHER THAN ONE. RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE ONE THAT EVERYTHING IS BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

IF YOU PROVIDE THREE LINE ITEMS AND YOU HAVE ONE FOR INDOOR USES BY RIGHT, ONE FOR OUTDOOR USES BY RIGHT, AND THEN YOU HAVE A THIRD FOR LIKE THE UNKNOWNS THAT COULD STAY BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'VE PRE-IDENTIFIED THESE WE KNOW WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. WE KNOW WHAT THEY FEEL LIKE, WE KNOW WHAT THEY SOUND LIKE. AND THEY'RE PRETTY KNOWN USES.

RIGHT. IT'S NOT GOING TO COME TO A BIG SURPRISE WHEN A MINIATURE GOLF COMES IN.

WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING, ESSENTIALLY, OTHER THAN MAYBE THE EXACT TENANT AND WHAT COLOR LIGHTS THEY USE FOR GLOW GOLF.

RIGHT. SO WE WOULD SUGGEST TO KIND OF BREAK IT OUT PRE IDENTIFY A SET OF USES THAT WE KNOW ARE NATURALLY COMPATIBLE.

WE KNOW THAT WE MAYBE EVEN WANT TO ENCOURAGE A DEVELOPER TO BRING TO US, AND THEN HAVE ONE LINE ITEM BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR THE UNKNOWN USES.

AND CAN I JUST ASK ONE MORE QUESTION BECAUSE YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT DEFINITIONS EARLIER, BUT SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE NOT DEFINED. ARE WE GOING TO END UP HAVING SPECIFIC DEFINITIONS FOR THE VIP DISTRICT? YES. SO WE HAVE SOME DEFINITIONS IN THE VIP DISTRICT THAT SUPERSEDE DEFINITIONS FROM OUR LARGER CODE.

AND THEN WE ALSO JUST HAVE ADDITIONAL DEFINITIONS.

BUT FOR EXAMPLE AMUSEMENT AND RECREATION INDOOR OUTDOOR IS DEFINED IN THE LARGER CODE.

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SO WE TOOK OUT THAT STRING OF USES AND WE PROVIDED SUPPLEMENTAL OR SUPERSEDING DEFINITIONS IN THIS DISTRICT.

BUT IF WE NEEDED TO DEFINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT VIRTUAL SPORTS IS, WE COULD DEFINE THAT.

I THINK MINIATURE AND MINIATURE GOLF AND BOWLING AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO CURATE. YOU KNOW, TO COMMISSIONER BREYER'S CONCERN IS THAT WHILE, YOU KNOW, WE MAY NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GETTING, IF THE DEFINITION HAS CERTAIN KIND OF REQUIREMENTS OR LIMITATIONS.

NOW WE'VE ALLOWED SOMETHING BY RIGHT, BUT WE'VE KIND OF LIMITED IT TO HOW WE WANT IT IN A WAY.

YEAH. YEAH. CAN I ASK ANTHONY A QUICK QUESTION? DRILL DOWN ON THE LIST. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO SEE THE DEFINITIONS, BUT BOWLING, FINE.

MINIATURE GOLF, INDOOR VIRTUAL SPORTS, AX THROWING I DON'T THOSE DON'T OFFEND ME.

IF IT'S INDOOR. BUT WHEN YOU GET TO. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SPORTS COURTS AND FIELDS.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I. I SAID THE SAME THING, COMMISSIONER. EVEN INDOOR AND OUTDOOR.

AND AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE AMPHITHEATER ISN'T, ISN'T PART OF JOHN'S DESIGN HAVING, LIKE, A GRASS TYPE OF AMPHITHEATER OR OR A NATURAL TYPE OF AMPHITHEATER.

SO, I MEAN, I GUESS IF WE SAW TO YOUR POINT, KATELYN, IF WE REMOVE CERTAIN THINGS FROM THESE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR LISTS AND THEN HAVE A THIRD CAVEAT, SAYING IF IT'S NOT EXPRESSLY PERMITTED HERE, IT'S UNDER SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

I COULD GET MY HEAD AROUND THAT. OKAY. YEAH. HOW ABOUT HOW ABOUT WITH THE THE OUTDOOR MINIATURE GOLF IS CONCERNING BASED ON THE SIZE. HOW ABOUT THE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE AT A BOWLING ALLEY, FOR INSTANCE? RIGHT. YEAH. SO YOU MIGHT HAVE SNACKS AT A BOWLING ALLEY, BUT YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT, WHICH UNDER THE CURRENT CODE, WOULD PRECLUDE YOU FROM SERVING BEER OR WINE, HAVING, LIKE, A BAR COMPONENT. RIGHT. SO IF IT'S ACCESSORY BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION, THEN THEY WOULD COME TO YOU.

IT HAS TO BE SUPPLEMENTAL SUBORDINATE TO A PERMITTED PRINCIPLE USE.

AND THEN IT WOULD COME TO YOU FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

ONE NOTE THAT WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IS THE MINIMUM SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS.

AND WE WOULD INCLUDE SOME LANGUAGE FOR YOU TO CIRCUMVENT THOSE DISTANCE SEPARATIONS FROM INNER BUSINESSES, BUT MAINTAIN THE SEPARATION TO CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS WITH THE ACCESSORY USE FOR ALCOHOL BE LIMITED TO CERTAIN PERMITTED USES.

MEANING OR IF WE PUT THAT LANGUAGE, IS AN ACCESSORY USE.

ANYBODY WHO HAS ANY PERMITTED USE CAN HAVE A BAR.

DO YOU WANT A PET SHOP WITH A BAR OR AN ANTIQUE SHOP? NO, IT ALL SOUNDS FINE, TO BE HONEST.

WHO'S WHO'S? I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT. AND YOU'RE CONCERNED.

SURE, BUT THERE ARE. I MEAN, THERE ARE CERTAIN PERMITTED USES THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM THEIR BUSINESS TO INCLUDE A BAR VERSUS, YOU KNOW, LIKE A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT. ACTUALLY, NOW THAT I MENTIONED IT, THERE'S A THERE'S A GREAT BOOT STORE IN NASHVILLE, WHICH IS A BOOT STORE, AND IT HAS A BAR AND LIVE MUSIC AT THE SAME TIME.

AND IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY AN EXCELLENT CONCEPT THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WOULD HAVE CONSIDERED AS AS SOMETHING INTERESTING AT THE TIME, BUT WALKING AND SEEING IT WORK TOGETHER, IT WAS ACTUALLY REALLY INTERESTING AND GREAT.

AND THE HARD PART HERE IS THESE ARE VERY, VERY GENERAL AND BROAD CATEGORIES, SOME OF WHICH I THINK WOULD APPLY, SOME OF WHICH I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO TRYING TO RESTRICT. SO I THINK TRYING TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THE INDOORS, OUTDOORS AND THEN SPECIFIC SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS IS GOING TO HELP QUITE A BIT BECAUSE THIS IS JUST THIS.

THIS IS A MOUNTAIN TO TRY TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES AND TRY TO, YOU KNOW, READ THE FUTURE AND FIGURE OUT, OKAY, THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN CONSIDERING THAT ARE ON THAT, THAT AREN'T A PART OF THIS LIST.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS OPEN AS POSSIBLE YET HAVE SOME HOLD.

BUT WE'RE AGAIN, WE'RE THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS ENTICING THE RIGHT DEVELOPER.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE AMUSEMENT BROKEN DOWN INTO THREE LINES.

ONE WITH INDOOR BY PERMIT, RIGHT, ONE WITH OUTDOOR BY PERMIT.

RIGHT. AND THEN THE THIRD, WHICH IS INDOOR AND OUTDOOR. SPECIAL EXCEPTION ADD A LINE ITEM FOR GOURMET GROCER.

I GUESS ON SECOND READING WE CAN COME BACK TO THE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. I'D LIKE TO TALK TO JOHN AND NANCY ABOUT THAT.

HOW ABOUT COMEDY CLUB? I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD COMEDY CLUB.

BUT I MEAN, I WOULD IMAGINE, THOUGH, COMEDY CLUB WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE AMUSEMENT AND RECREATION, THAT WOULD BE THE WAY THAT WE HAVE THE DEFINITION FOR ENTERTAINMENT VENUE. THAT WOULD BE ENTERTAINMENT, ENTERTAINMENT. SO WE WOULD LOOK TO YOU TO INCLUDE IN YOUR MOTION WHETHER YOU'D LIKE THAT, AS I THINK WE DO THE SAME FOR ENTERTAINMENT VENUES, I THINK WE HAVE THREE LINE ITEMS FOR ENTERTAINMENT BECAUSE SOME COULD BE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR AS WELL. SO WE COULD HAVE AN OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT VENUE, WHETHER IT'S THE AMPHITHEATER.

WELL, I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF TECHNICALLY THE AMUSEMENT, BUT I THINK WE CAN BREAK THAT INTO THREE.

SO THAT WAY IT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY. AND I THINK THAT'S SO JUST TO CLARIFY, AND YOU WANT SOME SIZE RESTRICTIONS, IF IT'S A THEATER, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE 25,000FT² MAXIMUM, MAXIMUM BECAUSE NOTHING CAN BE BIGGER THAN

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SO ALL RIGHT. SO THE AMUSEMENT BROKEN DOWN INTO THE THREE, THE ENTERTAINMENT BROKEN DOWN TO THREE, ADDING A GROCER, GOURMET GROCER. AND THAT'S MY DEVOTION AND THE ENTERTAINMENT.

WELL, THE ENTERTAINMENT. YEAH, THE COMEDY WOULD BE IN THE ENTERTAINMENT VENUE.

SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH THE PARTS OF THE ENTERTAINMENT VENUE THAT WE WANT BY PERMANENT. RIGHT? AND THEN PARTS OF ENTERTAINMENT VENUE, OR I GUESS THE OTHER LINE ITEM WOULD BE BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION. I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND THEN HOW ABOUT THE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT? YOU WANT TO THROW THAT IN OR. NO.

WHAT DO YOU THIS ONE LOOK AT YOUR SCREEN TO ALLOW FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT NOT REQUIRING A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT.

OH YEAH, I THOUGHT WE ALREADY HAD THAT. YEAH, I DO WANT TO ADD THAT.

WELL. I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK. KATELYN, DO YOU REMEMBER PENN'S THOUGHTS ON ON HAVING THIS AS AN ACCESSORY USE? THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE KIND OF RUMINATED OVER BETWEEN PNC AND FIRST READING.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO YOU FOR THE POLICY DECISION ON.

YEAH. I MEAN, MY MY CONCERN IS THIS OPENS UP TO EVERYONE.

ANYBODY WHO HAS A HAS A PRINCIPAL USE CAN HAVE ALCOHOL, AND THAT MAY BE A LINE TOO FAR.

I TOTALLY GET IT. IF YOU'RE DOING A BOWLING ALLEY, YOU'RE DOING A MINIATURE GOLF, YOU'RE DOING ANY OF THAT STUFF YOU'RE GOING TO WANT.

YOU'RE GOING TO NEED ALCOHOL THERE. WE DO PROPOSE IT BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION, WHICH GIVES YOU AGAIN, THE EXTRA LAYER OF CONSIDERATION. BUT WE COULD WE COULD PUT IN THERE.

OUR BEST RECOMMENDATION IS TO THE TYPES OF TENANTS.

AND WE COULD LIMIT IT TO THE AMUSEMENT INDOOR AND OUTDOOR, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN RETAILERS, WE CAN TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT LIMITS IT A LITTLE BIT FOR YOU BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.

SO WOULD THAT MEAN THEN THAT LET'S SAY BY RIGHT, WE DECIDE FOR AN AMUSEMENT THAT A BOWLING ALLEY.

THAT MEANS IF WE DID IT BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR THE ALCOHOL, IT MEANS THAT SOMEONE COME IN AND SAY, HEY, I WANT TO DO A BOWLING ALLEY AND SAY THE ALCOHOL WOULDN'T BE SPECIAL EXCEPTION. NO, NO, NO. BUT COMMISSIONER BREYER IS SAYING HE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME RESTRICTION OR LIMITATION. SO I GUESS HIS POINT IS THAT MEAN SOMEONE SAID, I WANT TO DO A BOWLING ALLEY. SAY, ALL RIGHT, YOU CAN GET THAT BY. RIGHT. AND THEY SAY, BUT I ALSO WANT TO SERVE ALCOHOL AND SAY, OKAY, NOW YOU NEED TO APPLY FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR THAT FOR THE ALCOHOL COMPONENT, AND ONLY IF THEY DON'T SERVE FOOD. I MEAN THAT THAT TO ME.

VICE MAYOR, IF THEY HAVE A OF A KITCHEN AND THEY SERVE FOOD.

WELL, WE ALLOW ALCOHOL. THIS IS ONLY FOLKS THAT DON'T FULL SERVICE.

RIGHT. SO YOU CAN'T JUST SERVE SNACKS. YEAH. IF YOU DO, IF YOU JUST DO A BOWLING ALLEY RIGHT NOW, YOU CANNOT HAVE ALCOHOL UNLESS YOU HAVE THE FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT, UNLESS YOU HAVE A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT.

RIGHT. BUT MOST OF THE ENTERTAINMENT THINGS ARE NOT GOING TO BE FULL SERVICE RESTAURANTS. SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY WE SUGGEST INCLUDING THIS.

ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK I THINK KATELYN, YOU GOT IT RIGHT.

IT'S WE WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT FOR CERTAIN OF THE USES.

YOU WILL DEFER TO YOU AS TO WHAT YOU KNOW. AND THEN WE CAN OBVIOUSLY TALK ABOUT IT AT THE NEXT READING.

YEAH. NO SNOW GLOBE STORES WITH ALCOHOL. I MEAN, EVERYWHERE I GO I BUY SNOW GLOBES FOR MY KIDS, SO I'M NOT AGAINST IT. I WAS JUST USING IT AS AN EXAMPLE.

RIGHT, RIGHT. MAYBE YOU CAN DRINK AND PLAY WITH SNOW GLOBES.

WHATEVER FLOATS YOUR BOAT. DRINK THE SNOW GLOBE.

IT'S. IT'S THE VILLAGE IN THE PARK. YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR DREAM.

WE CAN DREAM IT. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S MY MOTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO RESTATE THAT OR.

CAITLIN, YOU HAVE IT. YOU GOT IT. I'VE GOT MY CHICKEN SCRATCH.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ALLISON. IT'S NOT LIKE. YEAH, YEAH, I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CHANGES AND WHAT HAVE YOU ON SECOND READING, BUT AT LEAST THAT GIVES US A BROADER, MORE ROBUST CODE.

ONE ONE THING I DON'T SEE SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED IS LIVE MUSIC, EITHER AS A, AS A COMPONENT OF THE ACTUAL VENUE ITSELF.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED? WELL, THAT WAS PART UNDER WHICH UNDER WOULD THAT BE INCLUDED IN THE IN THE IN THE AMUSEMENT AND RECREATION ENTERTAINMENT VENUE, OUTDOOR LIVE MUSIC, LET'S SAY INDOOR.

OKAY. YEAH. SO THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE ENTERTAINMENT VENUE MOST LIKELY. YEAH.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? I JUST WANT TO ADD, CAITLIN, AS YOU GO THROUGH AND CRAFT FOR ENTERTAINMENT VENUE.

I MEAN, THE OTHER THING IS I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER THAN BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION, WE CAN RESTRICT ITS LOCATION, BUT, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE A INDOOR THEATER AND I GUESS THIS WOULD GO UNDER A NOISE RESTRICTIONS, BUT ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENCE WOULD BE AN INDOOR.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR ANYTHING. OR YOU CAN MAKE IT SOUND RIGHT.

YEAH. YEAH. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT, SO NOBODY FROM THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE MAYOR ISRAEL AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN.

ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER MEYER? YES. SUBJECT TO SEEING FOR SECOND READING.

YES. COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN. YES. COMMISSIONER MURPHY.

SALOMONI. YES. VICE MAYOR. ISRAEL. YES. MAYOR.

WALKER. YES. PLEASE SHOW PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CAN WE PUT AN ALCOHOL IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS AFTER THAT?

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A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA, APPOINTING FIVE REGULAR MEMBERS, TWO AT LARGE MEMBERS, A FIRST ALTERNATE AT LARGE MEMBER, AND A SECOND ALTERNATE AT LARGE MEMBER TO THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. I KNOW WE HAD A WORKSHOP EARLIER WHERE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ON THIS. JUST KEEP IN MIND WHOEVER IS MAKING THE MOTION, JUST BE SURE TO LAY OUT YOU KNOW WHO WHO YOU'RE PROPOSING FOR, WHETHER IT'S A REGULAR MEMBER, AN ALTERNATE MEMBER, OR AN AT LARGE MEMBER, BECAUSE THESE RATIOS ARE CURRENTLY BLANK.

GOT IT. AND ANTHONY, ARE WE DOING WE'RE DOING THESE.

ARE YOU READING THEM ALL TOGETHER. AND THEN WE COULD TALK THROUGH THEM BECAUSE THERE IS SOME INTERCHANGEABILITY. OR DO WE NEED TO DO THEM ONE BY ONE.

SO IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION, WHATEVER YOUR PREFERENCE IS JUST GOING TO DO A SLATE LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

YEAH. YEAH, I WAS, I, I WAS CONTACTED BY ONE OF OUR PMC MEMBERS IN BETWEEN.

AND I DON'T THINK HE REALIZED THAT HE WASN'T REAPPLYING OR WERE REAPPOINTED.

OKAY, SO SO IF YOU WANT HIM TO READ ALL THREE AND THEN WE CAN TALK TO THEM.

WELL, NO, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THEM AT HOME. COMMUNITY.

YOU SAID IT'S P AND Z. IT'S P AND Z BUT IT MAY AFFECT SEATING ON, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER BOARD IF.

BECAUSE WE WERE DEALING WITH OPEN SEATS. WELL, I CAN EASILY JUST READ THE OTHER TWO IN THE RECORD.

ULTIMATELY, WE'LL NEED SEPARATE VOTES ON EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS. THAT WAY YOU CAN DISCUSS AND COLLECTIVELY JUST READ ITEM NINE.

SEE RESOLUTION 2025 002. PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTMENTS A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA, APPOINTING SEVEN REGULAR MEMBERS AND TWO ALTERNATE MEMBERS TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ITEM NUMBER NINE D IS RESOLUTION 2020 5-003 PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD APPOINTMENTS.

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA, APPOINTING FIVE REGULAR MEMBERS, TWO AT LARGE MEMBERS, A FIRST ALTERNATE AT LARGE MEMBER, AND A SECOND ALTERNATE AT LARGE MEMBER TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I THINK 90 IS SEPARATE, SO. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S A REAPPOINTMENT.

SIM SIM COMMISSIONER BRIER, YOU WANT TO. YEAH.

I MEAN, I SPOKE WITH ALEX LAST WEEK. AND I GUESS HE WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT HE DIDN'T NEED TO REAPPLY, BUT STILL WANTS TO SERVE ON PNC, SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY HE'S BEEN ON PNC FOR SOME TIME, AND THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE THAT WE DIDN'T TALK THROUGH AT THE WORKSHOP WITH REGARDS TO PNC.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO PROPOSE OR MAKE A MOTION FOR THOSE FOLKS, BUT THAT THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER DYNAMIC.

COMMISSIONER BRIER, I SPOKE TO ALEX AS WELL, AND HE WAS ACTUALLY MY APPOINTEE PREVIOUSLY.

AND, YOU KNOW, I SPOKE TO NANCY, AND SHE HAD CONFIRMED THAT THE APPLICATION PROCESS OR THE APPLICATION, I GUESS WINDOW HAD ALREADY BEEN CLOSED, THAT IF HE HADN'T SUBMITTED AND I INFORMED HIM OF THAT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SPOKE TO HIM BEFORE OR AFTER, BUT THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. YEAH, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS COMMUNICATED, BUT I GUESS FOR APPOINTEES, IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW THEY NEEDED TO REAPPLY BECAUSE THEY WERE DIRECT APPOINTEES. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT FACTORS IN, BUT I FEEL TERRIBLE FOR SOMEONE THAT HAS SERVED ON OUR P AND Z BOARD WHO, BECAUSE OF SOME MISCOMMUNICATION, DIDN'T RESUBMIT AN APPLICATION THINKING IT WASN'T NECESSARY.

I AGREE. I FEEL BAD AS WELL, I JUST I SPOKE TO NANCY, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO KIND OF GO THROUGH WHAT WHAT I'M TOLD.

BUT AGAIN, I IT'S ALL HAPPENING JUST FOLLOWING FORMALITIES BECAUSE WE DID HAVE OTHER APPLICANTS WHO WANTED TO SUBMIT AFTER THE DEADLINE AND WE TOLD THEM NO. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY WERE ALL CONTACTED THE BOARD TO TO KNOW ABOUT THIS, TO APPLY, TO REAPPLY, EVEN IF THEY WERE DIRECT APPOINTEES, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE GRAY AREA MAY BE.

YEAH, THEY ALL FILL OUT AN APPLICATION. I MEAN, IT WAS IT WAS.

IT WAS JORDAN'S DIRECT APPOINTEE. YEAH. LISTEN, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HIM.

I'M KIND OF STUCK BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE.

I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH WE CALL HIM AN APPOINTEE, TECHNICALLY, THEY'RE ALL APPLICANTS, SO I. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE TWO. WELL, I DON'T KNOW, PRECEDENT WISE.

I MEAN, I WOULD IMAGINE IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD DIRECT APPOINTEES WHO DON'T SUBMIT A FORMAL APPLICATION, BUT I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DEAL WITH THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO REOPEN THE APPLICATION PROCESS, BUT IT WOULD SEEM TO ME TO BE BECAUSE OF SOME MISCOMMUNICATION OR TECHNICALITY, TO LOSE A PERSON THAT SERVED ON THAT BOARD OR NOT ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO SERVE. IF WE ALL DECIDE THAT THAT'S THE WAY TO GO.

IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN REOPEN UP APPLICATIONS FOR IF NEEDED.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS. I'M GOING TO DEFER TO NANCY AND ANTHONY.

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I'VE ALREADY HAD THIS CONVERSATION I TRIED. SO IT'S I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DEFER.

I MEAN, WE WOULD HAVE TO I THINK YOUR APPLICATION PROCESS AND IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, YOUR CODE DOES NOT SPEAK TO LAYING OUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS, THE CITY CODE, THE CITY CODE JUST PROVIDES FOR THE APPOINTMENTS.

AND WHO GETS TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENTS? HOW MANY APPOINTMENTS THERE ARE? DOES THAT MEAN WE WOULD HAVE TO REOPEN THE APPLICATION PROCESS? NO, I GUESS WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS THE CODE DOESN'T SPECIFY THAT YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH AN APPLICATION PROCESS.

I THINK HISTORICALLY THAT'S HOW IT'S BEEN DONE FOR THESE BOARDS IN THE CITY.

AND THAT'S BEEN THE PRACTICE AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL, BUT IT'S NOT ABSOLUTE.

I DID RECEIVE INFORMATION THAT THE BOARD WAS NOTIFIED TWO TIMES VIA EMAIL ABOUT THE APPLICATION.

YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK APPOINTEES ARE UNDER THE IMPRESSION AT LEAST MINE ARE THAT UNLESS I TERMINATE THEIR APPOINTMENT, THEY REMAIN MY APPOINTEES. AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHERS UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS TO BE, BUT IT SEEMED TO BE THAT HE WAS NOT AWARE HE NEEDED TO REAPPLY, WHETHER THAT'S HIS CHALLENGE OR A MISCOMMUNICATION, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S JUST THE REALITY. YEAH. ALL EVEN THOUGH TWO OF MY APPOINTEES WERE STOLEN.

THEY THEY ALL FILLED OUT APPLICATIONS. SO. YEAH, I MEAN, I'LL DEFER, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL SO WE SEE WHERE SIMEON STANDS.

SO WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS. ONE, WE CAN GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AGAIN WITH ALL OF THE APPLICANTS.

WE CAN SIMPLY REMOVE SOMEBODY FROM PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND THEN WE WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH COMMUNITY ADVISORY AND PARKS AND REC.

SO REALLY I GUESS WE'RE DEFINITELY IN A. YEAH.

UNCOMFORTABLE SITUATION. YEAH. MY, MY, YOU KNOW, I OBVIOUSLY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ALEX.

THE ONLY THING THAT I'M TRYING TO BALANCE IS HAVING OTHER APPLICANTS WHO WERE TOLD THAT THEY CANNOT APPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE AFTER THE WINDOW.

SO I JUST I'M TRYING TO BE FAIR, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO PUNISH ALEX FOR FOR NOT APPLYING.

BUT I ALSO THEN IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AND I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO OPEN REOPEN THE APPLICATION PROCESS BECAUSE HOW DO YOU SAY NO TO SOME RESIDENTS WHO WANT TO BE CONSIDERED THAT WE SAID THEY DIDN'T APPLY WITHIN THE DEADLINE? YEAH. WHAT I THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE SIMPLE AFTER OUR WORKSHOP IS MORE COMPLEX.

BUT BUT YEAH, I AGREE WITH JORDAN. IF WE IF WE OPEN, IF WE ALLOW ALEX TO COME ON THE SLATE OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, WE WOULD HAVE TO ALLOW THE OTHER APPLICANT, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN.

IN MY OPINION, IT ONLY SEEMS FAIR. YEAH, I AGREE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OTHER FAIR WAY TO DO IT.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO REOPEN THIS PROCESS IN ANY WAY, I THINK IT HAS TO BE REOPENED.

FOR ANYONE WHO WANTED TO APPLY AND DIDN'T MAKE THE DEADLINE.

RIGHT. UNDERSTOOD. AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WEREN'T THERE OTHER APPOINTEES? ISN'T THIS THE ONLY APPOINTEE THAT DIDN'T REAPPLY? IS THAT OKAY? I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE.

OKAY. SO I DID WANT TO CHIME IN AND SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR CODE FOR BOARDS GENERALLY DOES REQUIRE AN APPLICATION BE FILED.

IT JUST DOESN'T LAY OUT THE TIMING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

NOW, IT CAN BE READ A FEW WAYS, LIKE WE HAVE PROBABLY AN APPLICATION ON FILE FROM MR. LAST WEEK, I'M SURE, BUT WAS IT SPECIFIC TO THIS CURRENT APPOINTMENT? IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE TO COMMISSIONER COLEMAN'S POINT, ALL OF MY APPOINTMENTS FILED AN APPLICATION. WELL, NOT ALL OF YOUR BUT EVERY ALL OF YOURS FILED AN APPLICATION.

COMMISSIONER BRIER, ALL OF YOURS FILED AN APPLICATION.

COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN, EVERYBODY FILED THOSE.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S TO ME, IT'S. EVERYONE FILED AN APPLICATION EXCEPT.

WELL, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU CAN DIRECT APPOINT SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T FILE AN APPLICATION OR A RENEWED APPLICATION.

I HEAR YOU, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE COMMUNICATION.

THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE WHO REACHED OUT TO ME SEVERAL TIMES WANTING TO BE ON IT.

I MEAN, DID ALEX EVEN REACH OUT TO YOU? I MEAN, ALEX REACHED OUT TO YOU.

I CANDIDLY, AND I SPOKE TO HIM ABOUT THIS. HE HE DID NOT.

AND HE APOLOGIZED, AND I AND I FEEL BAD NOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, IN ALL CANDOR, AGAIN, LIKE, I ALSO REACHED OUT TO MURRAY ZWEIG TODAY AFTER NOT, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T SEE ALEX'S NAME ON THE APPLICATION.

SO OF COURSE, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO FIND A NEW APPOINTEE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS IF THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING OR MISCOMMUNICATION. I FEEL TERRIBLE, BUT I WAS JUST GOING BASED OFF OF THE LIST OF THE APPLICANTS WE HAD.

SO I DON'T KNOW, I FEEL, I FEEL, I FEEL BAD, BUT I, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AND I THINK IT JUST HAS TO BE FAIR, I WOULD RATHER JUST OPEN IT UP TO EVERYONE WHO SAID THEY WERE GOING TO APPLY AND WE TOLD THEM NO,

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WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS AS IS. I DO HAVE ONE CHANGE WITH ONE OF MY BUT ONE OF MY APPOINTMENTS.

BUT IT'S MY POINT. I PICKED I SAID THE WRONG PERSON, SO.

BUT YEAH. WELL DONE. SO OR WE OPEN IT BACK UP.

BUT BOTH OF BOTH OF THE PEOPLE, THE ONE NAME I SAID AND THE NAME I'M CHANGING TO BOTH FILLED OUT APPLICATION.

SO I'M NOT I'M NOT PICKING SOMEONE RANDOMLY. LISTEN, I JUST WOULD WOULD HATE FOR US TO UNLESS THERE'S SOME URGENCY TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS NANCY SERVED ON THE BOARD DILIGENTLY NOT BE ABLE TO THROW THEIR HAT IN THE RING BECAUSE THEY MISUNDERSTOOD WHETHER THEY NEEDED TO. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE TIMING OF WHEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO OPEN IT UP, AND YOU AT LEAST HAVE TO OPEN IT UP FOR A WEEK OR TWO TO ACCEPT THE APPLICANTS? I KNOW WE HAVE BOARD MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, ADVISORY BOARD MEETINGS PLANNED.

YOU YOU ARE ALREADY LOSING PEOPLE OR HAVE LOST PEOPLE.

SO IT WOULD PROBABLY MESS UP THE COULD SOMEONE DIRECT APPOINT ALEX AND THEN WHY CAN'T DIRECT APPOINT ALEX? BECAUSE I ALREADY TOLD JORDANA.

CONGRATULATIONS. THAT'S THE SAME FOR ME. I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT SO I'M NOT.

I'M NOT PICKING ALEX. NO OFFENSE. ALEX. YEAH, I HEAR YOU, I HEAR YOU, BUT YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD VOTE A SLATE THAT INCLUDED HIM, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. IF WE'RE RUNNING AFOUL OF SOME REQUIREMENT OR MAKING IT UNFAIR TO OTHER APPLICANTS.

BUT IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN I DON'T THINK WE'RE MAKING IT.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE RUNNING AFOUL OF ANY REQUIREMENTS, BUT I BUT I DO THINK WE'RE MAKING IT UNFAIR TO OTHER APPLICANTS THAT THAT NEW TO FILL IT OUT. THAT DID FILL IT OUT WITH THE WITH THIS ONE EXCEPTION.

RIGHT. SO ANTHONY, CAN WE POSTPONE THIS FOR TWO WEEKS AND REOPEN UP THAT PROCESS THEN? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY BOARD MEETINGS. I THINK WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS THAT THE APPOINTMENTS SERVE UNTIL A SUCCESSOR IS APPOINTED ESSENTIALLY.

SO YOUR EXISTING THOSE ON THE BOARD NOW WOULD CONTINUE.

SUCCESSOR IS APPOINTED SOMEBODY SOMEBODY BETTER PICK THEM.

OTHERWISE. WELL SO SAM WHO WHO WAS YOUR APPOINTEE? TODD ROGERS. MY POINT IS. TODD ROGERS. I YOU KNOW, I COMMITTED TO REAPPOINT AND, YOU KNOW BUT BUT AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION AT THE, AT THE WORKSHOP BECAUSE IT WAS.

WELL, THAT'S THE THING, TOO. I MEAN, WE'RE DEFINITELY IN A LITTLE CONUNDRUM BECAUSE JORDAN'S ALREADY TOLD.

YEAH, THAT'S THE THING IS, I ALREADY TOLD MURRAY.

YOU TOLD TODD? I TOLD JORDAN. I DON'T KNOW IF CINDY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SHE.

SO SHE TOLD TONY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ANYBODY.

NEAL. PRIOR TO THE THE WORKSHOP, I TOLD SOMEONE THAT I INTENDED TO PUT THEM ON THE BOARD.

YEAH. SO THE DIRECT APPOINTMENTS. I'M NOT. YOU KNOW, I LIKE ALEX.

YOU KNOW, HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB, BUT I'M NOT CHANGING, YOU KNOW? BUT THERE'S STILL TWO AT LARGE, SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

RIGHT. BUT THEN THAT GOES BACK TO THE QUESTION. IF IT'S AT LARGE THEN THEN IT GOES BACK TO THE APPLICATION VERSUS AN APPOINTEE. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT THEN WE HAVE TO REOPEN THE APPLICATION PROCESS. SO IF IT WAS AN APPOINTEE, OBVIOUSLY IT'S NO BIG DEAL.

YOU WANT TO YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO TELL TODD HE'S OUT.

SIMEON. AS THE ADMINISTRATOR, I THINK WE HAVE RULES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALL ABOUT PROCEDURES AND FOLLOWING THE RULES.

SO I WOULD LIKE US TO I THINK JUST TO KEEP IT AS IS.

WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT GOING THROUGH IT EARLIER TODAY IN A WORKSHOP, AND YOU ALL CAME TO CONSENSUS.

AND IT IS AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION, BUT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO GO WITH WHAT YOU ALL HAD AGREED TO.

WELL, BUT THE OTHER THE OTHER FLIP SIDE IS THIS WHEN WE ARE LOOKING TO FULFILL, WHEN SOMEBODY STEPS OFF THE BOARD AND WE JUST HAD THIS WITH THIS BOARD NOT TOO LONG AGO, WE DON'T NECESSARILY GO OUT TO NEW APPLICATIONS.

WE TAKE OLD APPLICATIONS AND SEE IF THEY'RE STILL INTERESTED.

SO I MEAN, I JUST I HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WITH SOMEBODY, RIGHT? WE TOOK APPLICATIONS. WE DEFINED THE TERMS AS TWO AS TO YOUR TERMS. EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME CYCLE AND EVERYONE WAS INFORMED WHEN WE DID THE WHEN WE DID A REPLACEMENT, WHEN SOMEBODY STEPPED OFF THE BOARD, WE DIDN'T OPEN IT UP TO KNOW.

BUT WE'RE WE'RE PULLING FROM BUT WE'RE PULLING FROM APPLICATIONS.

I UNDERSTOOD HE DOES HAVE AN APPLICATION ON FILE.

IT'S JUST AN OUTDATED ONE APPARENTLY. BUT THAT'S MY ONLY POINT.

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WE'RE FILLING ALL THE SPOTS. BUT BUT THE CHALLENGE THAT I HAVE IS WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS FAITHFULLY SERVED THAT COMMITTEE, AND NOW NOT EVEN GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE CONSIDERED BECAUSE OF A MISCOMMUNICATION.

WELL, SO I WOULD I WOULD DEFER TO OPENING IT UP.

DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I WILL I WILL SAY PUBLICLY EVERYONE FILLED OUT AN APPLICATION EXCEPT ALEX.

THAT TO ME IS, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY THAT PUBLICLY.

AS MUCH AS I LOVE ALEX, HE'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB ON THE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING.

EVERYONE ELSE FOLLOWED THE DIRECTIONS. COMMISSIONER BRIER, ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION? I'M KIND OF CONFUSED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT. WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW? YEAH, I DON'T I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ALLOW ANOTHER WEEK FOR APPLICATIONS, AND WE REVISIT THIS IN TWO WEEKS. BUT IF. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT? SO IF WE DO THAT, THAT MEANS THEN THAT THE BOARD JUST STAYS AS IS FOR THE DURATION.

NO NO NO FOR. NO I'M SAYING UNTIL WE SELECT IT, UNTIL A SUCCESSOR IS APPOINTED.

I'M NOT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. I MEAN UNTIL THE SUCCESSORS. ALL RIGHT. SO THEN WE BUT BUT I DO WANT TO SAY, THOUGH, THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT I CAN'T CHANGE MY I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK AND CHANGE MY APPOINTEE.

SO UNLESS THERE'S LIKE ALREADY AN AGREEMENT TO CHANGE THE AT LARGE AND RESTRUCTURE IT, THEN I DON'T WANT TO WASTE OUR TIME.

SO I GOT TO FIGURE OUT LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE I DON'T I CAN'T NOW GO BACKWARDS. SO IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOURS OR SOMEONE ELSE IS GOING TO CHANGE IT, IT WOULD BE ONE OF THE LARGEST, RIGHT? THAT'S MY POINT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE DOING IT, WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE'RE THE MECHANICS DECIDES TO CHANGE THEIR MIND AND THAT'S UP TO YOU. MAYBE NEXT WEEK YOU DECIDE TO CHANGE YOUR MIND.

MAYBE NOT. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR. LIKE I'M TRYING TO BE FAIR.

AND TO EVERYONE LIKE I FEEL BAD. BUT I ALSO WOULD THEN FEEL EVEN WORSE IF NOW I GO BACKWARDS ON SAYING TO SOMEONE ELSE LIKE, HEY, I'M A YOU AN ADDICT. IF YOU'RE STAYING WITH MURRAY, YOU'RE STAYING WITH MURRAY.

I'M TRYING TO BE. I TOTALLY GET THAT. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO CONVINCE ANYONE TO CHANGE THEIR DIRECT APPOINTMENTS, BUT I DON'T. I THINK IT'S UNFAIR. THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE WORKSHOP IF HE HAD IF HE HAD EXPRESSED INTEREST IN CONTINUING TO SERVE AND WAS TOLD THAT HE DIDN'T.

BUT THEN AFTER SPEAKING WITH HIM, THAT WASN'T THE CASE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF I WAS GOING TO DO A MOTION NOW TO APPOINT, ASIDE FROM ALL THE DIRECT APPOINTMENTS AT LARGE AND ALTERNATES, I WOULD WANT TO INCLUDE HIM IN IN THE ALTERNATES OR AT LARGES, AND DON'T FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING A PROPER APPLICATION? NO, BECAUSE WE WOULD END UP DROPPING ONE OF THE PRINCIPLES FOR WHICH I ASSUME WE WOULD TRY TO PUT SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHICH WOULD DROP SOMEONE ELSE, WHICH WOULD DROP SOMEONE ELSE.

YEAH, IT DEFINITELY WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO SOMEBODY.

YEAH, BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS GETTING DROPPED OFF NOW.

EVERYTHING WAS SO SIMPLE AT THE WORKSHOP. THIS WAS THIS WAS SO EASY.

I KNEW IT WAS TOO EASY, I KNEW IT. IS ANYONE.

IS ANYONE ELSE SEEING THE IRONY THAT THIS IS ON THE PLANNING BOARD? WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BREYER.

TO REOPEN THE APPLICATION FOR ONE WEEK. YOU KNOW, I THINK I WAS I MEAN, AT THIS POINT, MY FEELINGS.

YEAH. AT THIS POINT, I MEAN, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION ONLY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IF WE'VE HAD THIS ENTIRE DIALOG THAT NOW I FEEL TORN, I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT, ALEX, TO SO I WANT HIM TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

I JUST I JUST MY CONCERN IS WE'RE GOING TO REOPEN THIS AND IT'S LITERALLY REOPENING A CAN OF WORMS. SO I YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF THAT.

AND WHEN WE DO REOPEN, IF IT SO PASSES, ANYONE WHO HAS ALREADY SENT AN APPLICATION DOES NOT NEED TO SEND ANOTHER ONE.

SO NO NEED. I'M MAKING THAT CLEAR. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRIER TO REOPEN THE APPLICATIONS.

WE HAVE A SECOND BY VICE MAYOR ISRAEL. AND THIS WOULD ALSO INCLUDE, I GUESS, IS THIS DEFERRING THESE ITEMS? ESSENTIALLY, WE HAVE TO ITS MOTION. OKAY. WE HAVE TO DEFER ALL THREE BECAUSE IT'S A CHAIN REACTION.

RIGHT. SO, COMMISSIONER BRIER, YOU AMEND YOUR MOTION TO INCLUDE DEFERRAL OF ITEMS NINE B THROUGH D, IF THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT IS OR TO THE NEXT TO THE NEXT MEETING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO ADDRESS THIS. I MEAN, IF THE OBVIOUSLY IF THE MOTION FAILS WE'LL DEAL WITH THE BACKUP PLAN.

BUT BUT THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION. OKAY. AND THE SECOND.

SECOND. VICE MAYOR. YEP. TO DEFER ITEMS NINE B THROUGH E TO OPEN THE APPLICATION UP FOR ONE WEEK.

OKAY. THANK YOU. KEEP THE APPLICATIONS OPEN FOR A WEEK.

WELL, UNTIL. YEAH. LET'S SAY A WEEK. THE MOST WE CAN DO, SAY A WEEK.

UP. WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE PUBLIC. KEN CUTLER, SEVEN FOUR, TWO ONE WEST RIDGE DRIVE.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO ALEX AND I, YOU KNOW, I FEEL I FEEL FOR HIM BECAUSE I DEFINITELY KNOW THAT HE'S VERY GOOD FOR THE PNC.

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YOU'VE MADE A CONSENSUS AND WORKSHOP. I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE, AS YOU'VE EXPRESSED MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE WORKSHOP, ARE VERY VALUABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY, JUST LIKE ALEX IS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ON US. SO I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR WORKSHOP CONSENSUS, AS OPPOSED TO DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW AND WASTING THAT TIME.

THAT'S MY OPINION. THANK YOU, MR. CUTLER. NOT JUST BECAUSE I'M SUCCEEDING KEN CUTLER, BUT I'VE BEEN REALLY TORN, TOO. BUT I COMPLETELY AGREE. SO I WILL MOVE TO SAY THAT WE CONTINUE.

WE ALREADY HAVE. WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.

SO WE'RE GOING TO ROLL CALL. I FIGURED I'D TRY. YEAH.

WELL NOW WE HAVE THE MOTION. SO IT'S IF IT DOESN'T PASS THEN WE'LL MAKE ANOTHER MOTION.

SO THE MOTION TO DEFER ALL THREE AND REOPEN FOR A WEEK.

COMMISSIONER MURPHY. SOLOMON. NO. COMMISSIONER BREYER.

YES. COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN. NO. VICE MAYOR. ISRAEL.

YES. MAYOR. WALKER. NO, IT DOES NOT PASS. SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION UNDERSTANDING THAT JORDANNA GOLDSTEIN IS MAYOR WALKER'S DIRECTOR APPOINTEE.

TODD ROGERS IS MY DIRECT APPOINTEE. MURRAY ZWEIG IS VICE MAYOR, ISRAEL'S DIRECT APPOINTEE.

JOEL KAPLAN IS COMMISSIONER CANTERBURY'S DIRECT APPOINTEE.

ANTHONY AVELLO IS COMMISSIONER MURPHY'S APPOINTEE.

AND PUT DEREK BIXBY AND DAVID GOT AS THE AT LARGES.

AND ALEX SERGEEVICH AND FABIO RODRIGUEZ, WHO CURRENTLY SERVE ON THE BOARD AS THE ALTERNATE.

OKAY, THAT'S PLANNING AND ZONING. THAT'S NINE D. DO WE WANT TO DO NINE B FIRST OR DO WE WANT TO MOVE UP PLANNING AND ZONING.

YEAH WELL SINCE HE SAID IT I'LL SECOND IT IF WE CAN MOVE IT UP.

YEAH TRUE. HE SAID IT. SO THAT'S IT. CAN WE SKIP.

YEAH. JUST ASK MAYBE YOUR COLLEAGUES. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO MOVING NINE UP AND HANDLING THAT FIRST AGENDA ITEM.

NO. OKAY OR NOT SKIP. BUT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

OKAY. SORRY I WENT OUT OF ORDER. I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE END.

THERE'S BEEN A MOTION. ALL RIGHT, SO ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC SEEING IT, THERE'S NONE.

OH, DID WE DO A SECOND? I SECOND. OH YOU DID.

SO WE HAD COMMISSIONER BRIER. COMMISSIONER CAMERON IS WITH THE SECOND.

ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN.

YES. COMMISSIONER MURPHY. YES. COMMISSIONER BRIER.

YES. VICE MAYOR. ISRAEL. YES. MAYOR. WALKER. YES.

PLEASE SHOW PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. SO WE'RE ON COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTMENTS.

COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD. THIS IS THE ONE. I MESSED UP MY DIRECT APPOINTMENT, SO IT'S MY DIRECT APPOINTMENT.

SO RIGHT NOW WE GOT DOUG EATON, BILL KENNEDY, SHERRY KIMMEL, JEFF WOLF.

DAVID SILVER IS AT LARGE. KENDRA CROMPTON IS AT LARGE, CANDACE IS ALTERNATE, AND KELSEY CARPENTER HEILMAN IS ALTERNATE. MY PICK IS ACTUALLY JEFFREY WEISS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW I MIXED UP JIM AND JEFFREY, BUT I HAD PREVIOUSLY PROMISED JEFFREY.

A SPOT. MOTION APPROVED. YEAH. I THOUGHT WE WERE PUTTING ON JIM WEISS. WHO I MENTIONED IS JIM WAS MY DIRECT.

WELL, MY DIRECT APPOINTMENT WAS JEFFREY WEISS.

I CONFUSED JIM AND JEFF. I TRIED TO GET THEM BOTH ON, BUT YOU GUYS DIDN'T GO FOR THAT.

I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT PUTTING JIM ON AS WELL.

IF JEFF IS YOUR DIRECT APPOINTMENT. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT AFFECTS ONE OF THE ALTERNATES, PERHAPS, OR WHATEVER, BUT I MEAN, WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH THE SLATE.

JEFFREY, I SPOKE. WELL, I SPOKE TO HIS DAUGHTER, BUT I PROMISED A POSITION IN ONE OF THE SLOTS.

SO. IT'S NOT LIKE JIM IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE I TOLD HIM OR WHATEVER.

UNDERSTOOD. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN.

SECOND. SECOND BY ISRO. BEFORE. BEFORE WE VOTE, LET'S LET'S GET THE VOTE.

I DIDN'T HEAR THE NAMES FOR THE. THE MOTION IS FOR IAN, FOR THE DIRECTOR.

GO AHEAD. WELL, YOU WANT TO TELL WHO'S WHO'S WHO'S DIRECTOR.

I HAVE TO READ IT. OH, DOUG EATON IS SIMEON BRIER, BILL KENNEDY IS CINDY MURPHY CEREMONY.

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ANNETTE CADDIS IS ALTERNATE. KELLY CARPENTER HEILMAN IS ALTERNATE COMMISSIONER.

IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH YOUR MOTION? IS THAT WHAT YOU'D YOU LIKE? THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH MY MOTION. OKAY. AND THE SECOND THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH MY SECOND.

ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC. SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER BREYER. YES. COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN.

YES. COMMISSIONER MURPHY. SALOMONI. YES. VICE MAYOR.

ROWE. YES. MAYOR. WALKER. YES. PLEASE SHOW IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

YOU'RE ON NINE C PARKS AND REC. JOHN BRISSETT IS CINDY MURPHY.

SALOMONI. LEO GORDON IS NEIL KANTERMAN. BRIAN TOZER IS RICH WALKER.

JENNIFER SOTH IS JORDAN ISRAEL. DANIEL STRACHMAN IS SIMEON BRYER.

SANDRA SCHROEDER IS AT LARGE. MATT PARIS IS AT LARGE.

AND WAIMEA. VERA DERAGON IS ALTERNATE AND PHILIP BRUNE IS ALTERNATE.

MOTION TO APPROVE. OF SECOND. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ISRO SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN.

ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC. SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER MURPHY. YES. COMMISSIONER BRIER.

YES. COMMISSIONER KANTERMAN. YES. VICE MAYOR ISRO.

YES. MAYOR. WALKER. YES. PLEASE SHOW PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

AND YOU KNOW, FOR THE RECORD, AND I KNOW WE SAID IT A FEW TIMES, COMMISSIONER BRIER SAID IT IN HIS COMMENTS.

ANYONE WHO APPLIES. WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.

ANYONE WHO HAS SERVED. THANK YOU. ANYONE WHO IS NOW SERVING.

THANK YOU. WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. ITEM NINE E IS RESOLUTION 2020 5-004 POLICE PENSION BOARD REAPPOINTMENT.

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA, REAPPOINTING SEWELL NANJI AS A TRUSTEE ON THE POLICE PENSION BOARD, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? ANYBODY KNOW COMMISSIONER PRIOR? SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRAYER.

SECOND BY VICE MAYOR ISRAEL. ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER.

KANTERMAN. YES. COMMISSIONER. MURPHY. SALOMONI.

YES. COMMISSIONER. BRAYER. YES. VICE MAYOR. ISRAEL.

YES. MAYOR. WALKER. YES. PLEASE SHOW PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NINE F IS A DISCUSSION OF AMENDMENT OF A CODE OF ORDINANCES REGARDING YEAR ROUND, PERMANENT LANDSCAPE IRRIGATION MEASURES.

GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, JACKIE WAYMIRE, SENIOR DIRECTOR OF STRATEGY AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS.

TONIGHT WE'VE GOT IN FRONT OF YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IRRIGATION.

AND EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A VERY DAUNTING TITLE FOR TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION, IN ESSENCE IT IS REGARDING SPRINKLERS AND THEIR OVERSPRAY ONTO SIDEWALKS WHEN STUDENTS ARE WALKING TO AND FROM SCHOOL.

WE DID HAVE OUTREACH FROM A RESIDENT WHO REACHED OUT TO ALL OF YOU ON THE COMMISSION TO DISCUSS THE IMPORTANCE OF ENSURING THAT THERE IS NO OVERSPRAY ONTO THE SIDEWALKS FOR STUDENTS BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY ISSUE.

AND THEY ALSO MENTIONED THAT AN ORDINANCE HAD BEEN PASSED IN THE CITY OF DORAL AND TAMARAC REGARDING THIS ISSUE.

THE CITY DOES HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE REGARDING THE TIMING OF IRRIGATION, AND THAT IS IN SECTION 11 DASH 176.

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS THIS IS REGARDING AN OVERSPRAY.

SO WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE. WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE.

WE ALSO DON'T SEEM TO HAVE THAT MANY COMPLAINTS IN, IN, IN ESSENCE, THEIR HOSE AROUND THE SCHOOL AREAS.

AND THOSE SPRINKLERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IN A 180 SO THAT THEY AVOID THE SIDEWALKS ANYTIME ONE OF THOSE SPRINKLERS HAPPENS TO GO OFF, MAYBE IT GETS HIT OR IT GETS REPLACED. IF WE GET WE GET A CALL IN TO CODE ENFORCEMENT OR TO OUR CITY ARBORIST, THE ARBORIST JUST SIMPLY GIVES A CALL TO THE HOA AND ASKS THEM TO HAVE THEIR LANDSCAPING PEOPLE TAKE A LOOK AND ADJUST THE SPRINKLER.

BUT BUT AGAIN, THOSE SPRINKLERS ARE ALREADY SET TO NOT GO ON THE SIDEWALK.

ANY TIME IT DOES GO ON THE SIDEWALK, IT WOULD BE A ONE OFF.

SO GOOD DISCUSSION. YEAH, SO I WAS THE ONE WHO HAD BROUGHT THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION ONLY BECAUSE THIS IS NOW THE SECOND TIME I HAD RECEIVED THIS KIND OF EMAIL.

AND, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, MY FIRST REACTION WAS, WELL, YEAH, I DON'T WANT OUR STUDENTS OR ANYONE WALKING ON THE SIDEWALKS GETTING SPRAYED WITH A SPRINKLER. RIGHT. I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS THAT. BUT IN SPEAKING DURING, YOU KNOW, THE BRIEFING, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S NOT AS PREVALENT OF A PROBLEM AS KIND OF, I GUESS, INITIALLY CONTEMPLATED. SO I DON'T WANT TO CREATE MORE WORK THAN NECESSARY.

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BUT, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY CONCEPT THAT, YOU KNOW, FLOATED WAS, YOU KNOW, ADDING SOMETHING IN THE CODE THAT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, IRRIGATION OR SPRINKLERS CANNOT BE DIRECTED OR HAVE OVERSPRAY ON PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS, WHATEVER WHICH IT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, UNNECESSARY.

BUT I, YOU KNOW, I BRING THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE THE REASON IT WAS ON HERE, AS I SAID, WAS I THOUGHT THIS WAS A MUCH MORE RECURRING COMMON ISSUE.

SO I'M FINE WITH NOT DOING ANYTHING ON THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO REALLY FASHION A SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY EXIST. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD WE HAD THE DISCUSSION, BUT I, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S IT'S ONE THING TO ADD TO THAT CODE, IF IT'S IF IT'S NOT NECESSARY, I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH IT.

YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK BECAUSE IF WE ADD TO MAKE THE CODE TOO RESTRICTIVE, WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOMEBODY TO WE'RE GOING TO NEED CODE ENFORCEMENT TO MONITOR AND ALL THAT STUFF. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY CALLS, REACH OUT TO WHOEVER AND WE REACH OUT.

I'M I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

GOOD. WELL GOOD DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. COMMENTS BY THE BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

[10. Comments by the Broward Sheriff's Office]

CAPTAIN MCARDLE, FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU FOR THE PROCLAMATION AND THE RECOGNITION ON HUMAN TRAFFICKING MONTH.

I APPRECIATE THAT I HAD THE ABILITY TO BRING MY STAFF FROM OUR STRATEGIC INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION.

IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD TIME TO RECOGNIZE THEM, BECAUSE YOU DON'T OFTEN SEE THOSE THAT WORK BEHIND THE SCENES FOR YOU AND WHAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR CONTRACT.

SO THANK YOU FOR FOR RECOGNIZING THEM. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE EARLIER TODAY.

YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. DEPUTIES ARRESTED AN INDIVIDUAL WHO ENTERED A GARAGE WITHOUT PERMISSION.

DETECTIVES INTERVIEWED THE INDIVIDUAL AND HE GAVE SEVERAL STORIES, NONE OF WHICH WE BOUGHT.

BUT ULTIMATELY HE ADMITTED TO LOOKING FOR A BIKE OR SCOOTER TO LEAVE THE AREA.

IN LOOKING THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. WHEN ALL OF THIS CAME ABOUT, IT SEEMS THAT A LOT OF RESIDENTS HAD SEEN THIS INDIVIDUAL PRIOR TO US EVEN MAKING CONTACT WITH HIM, WALKING DOWN ROADWAYS, WALKING IN COMMUNITIES.

SO IT'S JUST A GOOD REMINDER TO HAVE PEOPLE GIVE US A CALL, PICK UP THE PHONE, CALL 911.

A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE DELAYED BECAUSE INSTEAD OF CALLING 911, THE FEEDBACK I'M RECEIVING IS THAT RESIDENTS ARE CALLING THEIR SECURITY GUARDS THE, YOU KNOW, THE GATE HOUSES. SO IT'S ALWAYS JUST BEST PRACTICE TO CALL 911.

THAT WAY WE CAN KNOW RIGHT AWAY WHAT'S GOING ON, MAKE CONTACT.

PERHAPS IF WE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED SOONER OF THIS INDIVIDUAL, WE COULD HAVE MADE CONSENSUAL CONTACT WITH HIM, OFFERED SOME KIND OF SERVICES, DROVE HIM SOMEWHERE, GOT HIM A RIDE, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

AND MAYBE WE COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS. SO IT'S JUST A GOOD REMINDER TO JUST, YOU KNOW, DIAL 911.

A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SEEING SOMETHING AND SAYING SOMETHING IS AN ARREST WE MADE LAST NIGHT.

WE ASSISTED OUR THREAT MANAGEMENT UNIT. WE RECEIVED A FORTIFIED TIP INTO PARKLAND, AND OUR THREAT MANAGEMENT UNIT FOLLOWED IT UP AND DETERMINED THE INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS MAKING WRITTEN THREATS RESIDED IN CORAL SPRINGS.

HIS ONLY TIE TO PARKLAND WAS THAT HE ATTENDS A PARKLAND SCHOOL.

AND THERE WERE NO THREATS TO PARKLAND, NO THREATS TO SCHOOL.

BUT BUT THERE WAS A WRITTEN THREAT MADE. SO THREAT MANAGEMENT MADE THAT ARREST.

SO THAT WAS REALLY GOOD. SOMEBODY GOING ON 4 TO 5, FLORIDA NOTIFYING US AND US BEING ABLE TO TRACK DOWN THE INDIVIDUAL AND MAKE AN ARREST.

SO WANTED TO NOTIFY YOU OF THAT AS WELL. AND OF COURSE, WE'LL BE AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY EXPO FARMERS MARKET ON SUNDAY.

WE HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE THERE. GREAT. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOU ACKNOWLEDGING PEOPLE SHOULD BE CALLING 911.

FACEBOOK IS NOT ALWAYS THE BEST PLACE TO NOTE WHEN SOMETHING IS WRONG.

911 IS MUCH FASTER THAN TAGGING. MAYOR WALKER ON FACEBOOK AND EXPECTING HIM TO RESPOND AND THEN CALL THE POLICE? ABSOLUTELY, YES. 911. THANK YOU. COMMENTS BY THE CORAL SPRINGS PARKLAND FIRE DEPARTMENT.

[11. Comments by the Coral Springs-Parkland Fire Department]

AND LAST MONTH, 165 EMS CALLS, THREE FIRE CALLS.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ECHO SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS ABOUT THE FIRES IN CALIFORNIA.

OBVIOUSLY DEVASTATING SITUATION. SOMETHING WE'RE WATCHING VERY CLOSELY.

AND, YOU KNOW, GOES TO THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING EITHER WATER SUPPLY OR A PLAN IN PLACE, WHICH WE DO TO TO HELP COMBAT THOSE SITUATIONS.

WELL, I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY WATER SUPPLY IS IMPORTANT, BUT I THINK WHEN WE CUT AWAY THE INVASIVES AND AND WE CLEAN THE BRUSH AND WE DO THAT TYPE OF WORK, I KNOW RESIDENTS DON'T ALWAYS LIKE THAT BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEIR PRIVACY IS TAKEN AWAY.

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AND SO I KNOW SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS HAVING YOUR GRASS WATERED ALSO HELPS WITH THAT NOT SPREADING.

I MEAN, I KNOW IT SOUNDS SILLY, BUT JUST HAVING THAT DRY CONDITIONS IN GENERAL.

SO YEAH, AND THE WIND, THE WIND'S OUT THERE AREN'T HELPING.

AND THE ONLY OTHER UPDATE I HAVE THANK YOU TO ONE OF OUR PREVIOUS COMMISSIONERS HERE.

I WAS ABLE TO REACH OUT, AND HE WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO GET AN UPDATE FOR US FOR THE HUB, WHICH WE HAD NOT GOTTEN AN UPDATE FOR RECENTLY.

MOTOROLA HAS THE INTEGRATION SOLUTION IN WHAT THEY CALL A STAGING RACK, WHICH IS A COMPUTER RACK THAT THE SERVER IS IN TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS BY ITSELF WITHOUT ANY TESTING OF ANYTHING ELSE. ONCE IT ONCE IT'S IN THE STAGING RACK AND CONFIRMED WORKS THERE.

THEY USE THE WORD SHORTLY WILL BE PUT IN THE TESTING ENVIRONMENT, AND WE WILL ACTUALLY BEGIN TESTING THE TWO ENVIRONMENTS TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DATA GOES THERE. THEY DON'T OFTEN USE THE WORD SHORTLY, SO I'M POSITIVE THAT THAT MEANS A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.

YEAH. HOPEFULLY NOT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR MEYERSON. THANK YOU. ANYBODY? NO COMMENTS BY THE CITY MANAGER. YES. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME KELLY SCHWARTZ TO THE CITY OF PARKLAND AS OUR NEW FINANCE DIRECTOR.

[12. Comments by the City Manager]

SO WELCOME, KELLY. LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

VERY COOL. MUCH, MUCH SHORTER COMMUTE, I ASSUME.

WELCOME. WELCOME ABOARD. GLAD TO HAVE YOU. COMMENTS BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

[13. Comments by the City Attorney]

SURE. TAKE CARE EVERYONE. BE WELL. SIMEON. BYE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.