[1. Call to Order]
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>> OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR CITY COMMISSION AWARD WORKSHOP TO ORDER ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 16TH, AT 6:00 P.M. PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO MY FLAG AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> I KNOW WE HAVE RESIDENTS HERE. TO BE CLEAR, THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE IS NO DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH, BUT WHAT WE WILL DO TODAY IS, IF YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, IF YOU WANT TO GET THOSE QUESTIONS TO JACKIE, IF TIME PERMITS, WE WILL DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE SURE WE ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
[4.A. Fire Hydrant Discussion]
ALL RIGHT. YES. 7:00. OKAY. FIRE HYDRANT DISCUSSION.>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE.
EVERYBODY DOING TONIGHT? >> GREAT.
>> CAN'T COMPLAIN. WHAT WE WANT TO DO TODAY IS DO SOME REVIEWING. DO A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. START TALKING ABOUT NEEDS ASSESSMENTS AND OPTIONS AS IT RELATES TO WATER SOURCES THAT CIRCULATE AROUND FIREFIGHTING. I SAY WATER SOURCES. IT'S A MULTITUDE OF SOURCES WE WILL DISCUSS TODAY.
HYDRANT IS ONE OF THEM, BUT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS OTHER THINGS, AS WELL. SO, WHEN IT COMES TO HYDRANTS THEMSELVES, THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT YOU HAVE LIMITED FIRE HYDRANT SERVICES. THERE ARE A FEW AREAS WHERE THERE IS SOME SCATTERED HYDRANTS IN PLACE THAT CAN BE USED FOR FIREFIGHTING NEEDS. SO AS WE REVIEW THE TIMELINE OF EVENTS, THE INSTALLATION OF POTABLE USABLE WATER HAS BEEN AN AREA OF DISCUSSION FOR YEARS. IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT AS SUPPLIES GO, A POSITIVE SUPPLY FROM A HIGHLY MAINTENANCE SOURCE IS A LITTLE BIT FASTER, TENDS TO HAVE MORE RELIABILITY, AND OTHER SOURCES.
IT IS GOING TO END UP BEING A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION BECAUSE, AS YOU LOOK INTO NEEDS ASSESSMENTS AND WHAT COULD BE BETTER, IT IS GOING TO KEEP COMING UP. IT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS THE ONLY SOURCE OR THE ONLY WAY TO SUPPLY FIREFIGHTING ACTIVITIES.
THAT IS WHERE THE RELIABILITY COMPONENT COMES IN. YOU GET A LEAK ON THE PRESSURIZED SET, POSITIVE PRESSURE CAN OVERCOME THAT, VERSUS THE NEGATIVE SIDE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT STUFF, BUT PRESSURIZED WATER MENTORS THAT IS VITAL FOR SUPPLYING FIRE HYDRANTS. THIS HAS BEEN A SUPPORTED INITIATIVE TO INSTALL HYDRANTS. IT HAS BEEN AN IMPORTANT TOPIC. IT'S NOT LIKE PEOPLE DO NOT RECOGNIZE THAT THIS ISN'T IMPORTANT AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO IF FEASIBLE. THERE WAS A MEETING WITH RESIDENTS TO GAUGE THE INTEREST. ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, AS WELL AS INSTALLING THESE POTABLE WATER SOURCES WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE TO EXPANSION INTO HYDRANTS. THERE WAS A GENERAL FEELING THAT PEOPLE WERE ON BOARD WITH THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, BUT NOT ON BOARD WITH THE WATER AND SEWER IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. SO CONSULTANTS WERE BROUGHT IN. THE FEASIBILITY REPORT WAS PROPOSED. AND FOR DOMESTIC WATER DISTRIBUTION IN 2015, AFTER THE DISCUSSION RESULTED IN INSTALLATION, THERE EIGHT INCH MAINS IN 2017. THAT WAS DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NORTH SPRINGS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. SO INSTALLATION OF
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HYDRANTS AND THE REMAINDER OF THE COMMUNITY DID NOT MOVE FORWARD DUE TO THE COST ESTIMATIONS, AND DETERMINE OF COST. THE CITY CONDUCTED RESIDENTIAL SERVICE IN 2020, AND WITH INQUIRIES RELATED TO RIDLEY -- ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.THE SURVEY RESULTS INDICATED A LACK OF SUPPORT FOR IT AT THIS TIME. SO EVALUATION OF THE DRY HYDRANTS SHOWED AN INCREASE IN FUNCTIONALITY. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WE GO INTO HYDRANTS AND RELIABILITY, ET CETERA. SO WE DEVELOP ALTERNATIVES FOR IMPROVED WATER SUPPLY SOURCES. WITH FUNDINGS TO BE DETERMINED. THERE IS POSITIVE PRESSURE WATER SOURCES WHICH WOULD COME OFF OF MUNICIPAL MAINE. YOU'LL SEE THAT IN AREAS WHERE THERE IS WATER BEING SUPPLIES TO HOMES.
WE TAP INTO THEM SO WE HAVE THAT AS A FUNCTION FOR FIREFIGHTING. IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT, WHICH REPRESENTS A LARGE A LARGE POPULACE IN THE WORLD, NOT EVERYONE HAS PRESSURIZED WATER SOURCES. THE DEFAULT TO THAT, THE MOST APPROPRIATE SECONDARY IS HOW TO GET WATER, EXTRACTING WATER FROM A STATIC SOURCE. THAT IS THE METHODOLOGY THAT IS BEING UTILIZED IN THE AREAS IN THE ABSENCE OF WATER SOURCES CURRENTLY. SO WITH THE WAY WE CONDUCT OUR FIREFIGHTING, EVERY SINGLE APPARATUS THAT GOES ON SCENE IS IMMEDIATELY ARRIVING ON SCENE WITH 1000 GALLONS OF WATER ON BOARD. THAT IS YOUR ORIGINAL INTERVENTIONAL SUPPLY. IT IS ARRIVING WITH THE TRUCK AND IT IS DESIGNED AT THAT POINT TO BE USED FOR INTERVENTIONAL ACTION, DEPENDING ON WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. THAT 1000 GALLONS IS SUFFICIENT TO KNOCKDOWN -- KNOCK DOWN FIRE THAT HAS NOT GROWN EXPONENTIALLY. WE ARE EVALUATING INCIDENT PRIORITIES, ONE OF WHICH IS LIFE SAFETY IS FIRST. AND THEN PROPERTY PRESERVATION. WHEN WE FIRST GO ON SCENE, WE DO A NEEDS ASSESSMENT IF THERE IS ANY IMMEDIATE LIFE THREAT. AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE USED FOR SAVING LIVES. THERE IS THE PRESERVATION OF LIFE. WE GO THERE AND WE EVALUATE THAT NEED. IF WE NEED TO USE THAT 1000 GALLONS IN THE COURSE OF PERFORMING THAT ACTION, WE WILL, BUT UNLESS WE ARE LOOKING AT SOMEBODY THAT IS ENTRAPPED OR SOMEBODY THAT HAS LIMITED MOBILITY, YOU HAVE A RESIDENT WITH AILING HEALTH, WHERE WE WOULD PRIORITIZE THE SUPPRESSION OF THE FIRE AS A RESCUE EFFORT. MOST OF THE TIME, THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. WE WOULD MAKE AN EXTRACTION WITH MANPOWER, AND WITH THAT, INITIAL STAGES WOULD NOT OCCUR AT THAT TIME BECAUSE THE PRIORITY IS TO SAVE YOUR LIFE OVER YOUR PROPERTY. THAT IS JUST OUR HIERARCHY OF OPERATION. WE UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF THEIR HOMES. THE VALUE OF THEIR WEDDING ALBUMS AND THE THINGS LIKE THAT. WE ARE TRYING TO PRIORITIZE YOUR LIFE DOSE THAT IS THE HIGHEST VALUED ITEM. WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE AN EXTRACTION. IF WE START TO DO INTERVENTIONAL ACTIVITIES, WE IMMEDIATELY START TO DEPLOY THAT 1000 GALLONS OF WATER. INTO TRYING TO CONTROL WHAT IS OCCURRING ON SCENE. NOW, THE SCIENCE OF FIREFIGHTING, IF I MAY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS CALLED A LEGACY HOME, SO A LEGACY HOME IS A HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT ROUGHLY PRE-1980. CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS WERE MADE OF WOOD AND BRICK AND NATURAL MATERIALS.
FINISHES WERE MADE OF NATURAL FIBERS AND MATERIALS OF THAT NATURE. THERE WAS SO MUCH PURITY IN THE MATERIALS BEING USED TO DO THESE THINGS. WHAT WOULD TAKE A HOUSE TO GET TO A POINT OF FLASHOVER, AND FLASHOVER IS WHERE ALL THE COMBUSTIBLE MATERIAL AVAILABLE IN A ROOM AT ONE TIME IT CAN ISOLATE THE SAME TIME BY ELEVATING TO A TEMPERATURE THAT REQUIRES THAT MUCH -- THOUGH TAKE 15 TO 20 MINUTES AND THAT AMOUNT OF TIME. THE HEAT GENERATED WOULD BE ROUGHLY 1100
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DEGREES. TOXICITY OF SMOKE WAS LESS. THE WATER REQUIRED TO SUPPRESS THAT ACTIVITY WAS FAR LESS. FAST-FORWARD TO MODERN HOMES AND THEY ARE MADE OF PLYWOOD'S , AND THINGS FOUND WITH THE GLUE. GLUE EQUALS FIELD. FURNITURE AND CONTENT ARE MADE WITH ALL PLASTIC -- FUEL. SO FIRE BEHAVIOR -- FIRE IS DEVELOPING FASTER BECAUSE THE SYNTHETIC MATERIALS USED -- THEY HAVE A HIGHER HEAT RELEASE. FLASHOVER'S ARE OCCURRING IN 3 TO 5 MINUTES. THAT MEANS IT IS PROBABLY OCCURRING BY THE TIME THEY ARE GETTING THE PHONE CALL. THAT THE FIRE SPREAD HAS HIT A POINT OF INCREASED TEMPERATURE AND INCREASED BURNING RATE THAT BY THE TIME WE GO ARRIVAL, WHICH, WE SHOOT FOR SIX MINUTES WITH LESS THAN 90% BEING UNDER EIGHT MINUTES, THIS FIRE SPREAD HAS ALREADY HIT A MASSIVE HEAT PRODUCTION. ON THE POINT OF ARRIVAL, SO, WE ARE GETTING STREAMS THAT ARE OVER 2000 DEGREES. AND IF YOU LOOK AT A MODERN-DAY FIRE, 10 MILLION BTUS. WE ARE FIGHTING THE -- WE SAY COME HOW MUCH GPM DO WE NEED TO BEAT THE BTUS? SO WE AIM TO TRY TO GO FOR 500,000 BTUS. WE AIM AT 125 GALLONS PER MINUTE. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING. WE ARE AVERAGING ROUGHLY 150 GALLONS PER MINUTE. SO, THE KEY POINTS ARE BASICALLY -- THAT MODERN-DAY FIRE IS BRINGING SIGNIFICANTLY FASTER SPREAD, HIGHER HEAT, REQUIRING US TO HAVE MORE WATER. WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? THAT MEANS THAT ON ARRIVAL, IS IT HAS GONE BEYOND THE POINT OF ORIGIN, AS SOON AS WE CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO LIFE DIRECTLY AT HAZARD AND WE START SUPPRESSION ACTIVITIES, THE LIKELIHOOD OF HAVING THE INTERVENTIONAL WATER NECESSARY, EVEN IF WE HAD A FIRE HYDRANT SITTING IN THE FRONT YARD, WE ARE NOW GOING TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO CONSTRAIN -- CONTAIN THAT SITUATION AND STOP IT, BUT PROBABLY STILL HAVE SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO A HOME. BUT WE WILL TRY TO KEEP IT FROM GETTING ANYTHING ADJACENT AND KEEP GOING AND HAVING ELSE. SO, WE ARE PRIORITIZING THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU. WE ALWAYS WILL. BUT JUST UNDERSTAND THAT HAVING A FIRE HYDRANT IN THE FRONT YARD MIGHT NOT CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE SEEN RECENTLY. SO, THAT IS WHY IT IS SAYING HERE THAT EACH FIRE REQUIRES A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF WATER OR WHATEVER TO DEFEAT WHATEVER WE ARE UP AGAINST. IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU ARE STORING AND WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE HOUSE AND WHAT YOUR HOUSE IS MADE OF. WHAT WAS THE TIME? BUYERS DEVELOP IN AN ATTIC.THEY ARE ON THE INTERIOR OF AN ATTIC SPACE. THEY ARE TRYING TO GET WATER IN THERE TOO SLOW THAT DOWN BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY GET ACCESS IN THERE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTIVITIES TO GET ON THE ROOF AND OPENING US. WE ARE SHOWING UP WITH INTERVENTIONAL WATER. THERE IS WATER THROUGH SOURCES AND OTHER THINGS. NOT NECESSARILY HAVING ENTRANCE IN THE FRONT YARD. IS IT THE PINNACLE OF WHAT IS CONSIDERED FIREFIGHTING WATER SUPPLY BECAUSE OF RELIABILITY AND MAINTENANCE? SURE. DOES IT GIVE A GOOD WATER SUPPLY? ALSO, SURE. BUT IT IS NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO CHANGE THE DYNAMIC OF FIREFIGHTING WHEN YOU HAVE VERY BEAUTIFUL HOMES, SPRAWLING HOMES ON ACRES, SET ON TOP OF RURAL, YOU KNOW, SUPPLY SYSTEMS. IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME IT HAPPENED. IT IS NOT THE LAST. SUNSHINE RANCH IS DOWN THERE. IT IS A VERY INFLUENTIAL AREA. THEY ARE SUFFERING THE SAME THING. I KNOW BECAUSE MY PARENTS LIVED THERE. WHEN THEY APPROACH MY FATHER WITH THE, HEY, DO YOU WANT US TO HOOK YOU UP TO CITY WATER AND HE IS LIKE, SURE. YOU'RE SURE WILL BE $100,000. HIS HEAD ALMOST EXPLODED. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CHALLENGES TO TRYING TO DO THAT. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT HER OPTIONS ARE HERE, OPTION ONE WOULD BE TO LOOK AT THE INSTALLATION OF ADDING HYDRANTS TO ALL THE AREAS AFFECTED THAT ARE NOT. SOME OF THE ADVANTAGES -- RESIDENTS WOULD LOOK AT IF THEY WANTED CITY WATER AT THEIR
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HOUSE. THERE WOULD BE AN UNLIMITED WATER SUPPLY. I WANT TO CAVEAT THAT. WE HAVE FIRES THAT BURNED SO HOT THAT I COULD PUMP THOSE SYSTEMS. IT IS NOT AN UNLIMITED SUPPLY. IT IS COMING THROUGH A PIPE OF PREDETERMINED RATE. WE WILL ASK THOSE THINGS DOWN TO ZERO INTAKE PRESSURE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING. THEORETICALLY, IT IS UNLIMITED, SURE. BUT WE MIGHT HAVE TO THROTTLE DOWN, AND THE BTUS START OUTRUNNING OUR GPMS. IT SAVES TIME TO ESTABLISH WATER SOURCES BECAUSE THE PRIMARY TRUCK THAT SHOWS UP, ONE INDIVIDUAL, WORKING A LITTLE HARD, CAN YANK A HOSE, ESTABLISH THAT WHILE OTHER PEOPLE ARE PERFORMING INTERVENTIONAL'S OR SEEING WHAT IS GOING ON, AND HOOK INTO THAT SOURCE. WHEN THEY TURN THAT VALVE -- IF THE HYDRANT FLOWS, WE CAN RELIABLY SAY THAT IT WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE WATER DURING OUR TIME OF NEED, UNTIL WE SHUT IT DOWN. AND THAT ONE APPARATUS IS ABLE TO PERFORM THAT TASK. THERE IS SOME TIME-SAVING THERE. THEY ARE DEPENDABLE. THE DISADVANTAGE IS THERE IS A HIGH COST OF INSULATION MAINTENANCE.WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ROAD AND TRAFFIC AFFECTED DURING THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION TO PUT THOSE IN. SO OPTION TWO, IS ADDING, DRAFTING PIPES FROM STATIC SOURCES. I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I REITERATE TO THE RESIDENTS AND TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN -- WHO HAVE PUT THEIR FAITH IN US, THAT I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THERE'S THE EXAMPLE I WAS SAYING EARLIER IS -- IF YOU NEEDED ELECTRICITY TO YOUR HOUSE, EVERYBODY WOULD SAY THE NUMBER ONE THING WOULD BE TO CALL THE POWER COMPANY AND GET OUT RELIABLY HEIGHT MAINTENANCE SUPPLY THAT CAN COME IN. IT'S WHATEVER. IN THE EVENT THAT THAT WAS NOT AVAILABLE, THE MOST PRUDENT THING TO DO WOULD BE, SOMEONE WOULD HAVE A GENERATOR THAT WOULD PROVIDE SUSTAINABLE POWER. IT IS CONSIDERED PROBABLY THE BEST, APPROPRIATE OPTION IN THE ABSENCE OF A POWER LINE. PEOPLE ARE USING THEM ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. THAT IS THE IMMEDIATE, MOST ACCEPTABLE, MOST APPROPRIATE SECONDARY SOURCE.
IN FIREFIGHTING, IN THE ABSENCE OF A POSITIVE PRESSURE HYDRANT, THE MOST PRUDENT, ACCEPTABLE, AND RESPONSIBLE ACTIVITY THAT IS BEING DONE NATIONWIDE IN THAT THING IS TO USE STATIC SOURCES AND DRAFT . EACH FIRE ENGINE IS EQUIPPED WITH A SECTION OF SUCTION LINE. THAT SUCTION LINE IS CAPABLE OF REACHING CERTAIN SOURCES OF WATER, LAKES, PONDS, CANALS. WE SAY POOLS, BUT THE REALITY IS THAT POOLS ARE USUALLY WHERE IN PROXIMITY TO THE HOUSE? RIGHT ON TOP OF IT. THEY ARE THERE.
PEOPLE LIKE TO SAY POOLS, BUT THE REALITY IS, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE NORMALLY TOO CLOSE. THEY ARE GOOD FOR THE FORESTRY HELICOPTER. BUT THAT IS THE SECONDARY, TO UTILIZE THOSE ITEMS. STEP ABOVE THAT WOULD BE FOR A SYSTEM TO HAVE THEIR OWN TANKER TRUCK. THE MANAGEMENT IN PARKLAND -- IT IS ALL FIT TO ENSURE THAT THE RESIDENTS HAD THAT TRUCK. A LOT OF PLACES HAVE THAT TRUCK. BUT THE RESIDENTS HERE HAVE THAT TRUCK BECAUSE OF THE FORESIGHT OF THE MANAGEMENT RUNNING THE CITY.
YOU HAVE THAT TRUCK. THEY ARE ALREADY USING THE SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED THE BEST THING TO DO IN RURAL APPLICATION, FOLLOWED BY SECONDARY REDUNDANCY OF THE TANKER, THAT WAS BROUGHT INTO PLACE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO -- THIS IS A BOOK I WAS DISCUSSING -- THEN, WE HAVE BASICALLY A CARTOGRAPHER, IF YOU WILL. FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, A MAP PERSON THAT COMES AND SCOUTS, AND THEY GO AND EIGHT CHECK EVERY STATIC WATER SOURCE THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AS A POSSIBILITY, AND SCOTT RUNS ON IT. AS THE RAIN GOES LOW, WE RUN MORE SCOUTS ON IT. AND THEN SUPERVISOR RUNS THE SCOUT ON THAT ALL GETS TRANSLATED AND UPDATED INTO THIS BOOK, WHICH IS THREE SYSTEMS. EVERY ZONE HAS THREE SYSTEMS OF REDUNDANCY AND FIGHT FOR EVERY AREA. PLUS, A TACTICAL WORKSHEET ON THE FRONT. THIS WILL GO TO EVERY MAP PAGE INVOLVED IN YOUR CITY. THEY CAN IDENTIFY AS AN ALPHA,
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BRAVO, AND CHARLIE WATER SOURCE, UTILIZING THE PRINCIPLES THAT WOULD BE UTILIZED IN THE ABSENCE OF A PRESSURIZED WATER MAIN. MAYBE WE HAVEN'T DONE THE BEST JOB OF COMMUNICATE IN, SO I WANT YOUR RESIDENTS TO KNOW THAT WE TAKE THE PROTECTION -- WE ARE NOT -- YOU ARE US. WE ARE YOU.WE WILL NEED TO HAVE THE CONFIDENCE THAT WE ARE DOING THOSE THINGS AND THAT IS WHERE THESE ARE COMING FROM. THEY ARE COMING FROM THAT SYSTEM. SO WHAT THAT SYSTEM DOES IS IT MIGHT CREATE A POINT THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE MAINTENANCE TO.
-- MAINTENANCED. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ADDING DRAFTING PIPES, IT'S GOING TO SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED, BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT TOPOGRAPHY, THERE COULD BE AN EXTENDED SLOPE ON THE EDGE OF THAT WATERWAY, WHERE THERE IS SUFFICIENT WATER AND DEPTH. THAT PIPE WOULD ELIMINATE THE SLOPE FOR US. WE GO AND WE LOOK AT THAT. THOSE PIPES, THEY GIVE US A LARGE AMOUNT OF WATER. THEY GIVE US WHAT WE NEED AND THEY SAVE TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE FASTER THAN TRYING TO DO DRAFTING PIPES OR ASSEMBLING SEVERAL PIPES TOGETHER. DISADVANTAGE? THERE STILL COST. THEY ARE NOT AS RELIABLE BECAUSE THEY NEED MAINTENANCE ON TRAILER BASIS.
THERE ARE ACCESS ISSUES. IT WOULD SAVE TIME. THE PIPE IS ESTABLISHED. THERE IS GOING TO BE A LARGE COST TO RESIDENTS.
WE HAD TO USE A LARGE AMOUNT OF WATER TO PRIME THAT PIPE, AND THAT IS OUR WATER. IT IS NOT BEING USED TO PRIME A PIPE IN LIEU OF INTERVENTION. THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO REQUIRE INSPECTION AND MAINTENANCE. OPTION FOR IS TO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING. LEAVE THE SYSTEM AS IS. REMOVE NOTHING. THE ADVANTAGE IS NO COST. THERE IS ALREADY PLAN IN PLACE FOR FIGHTING FIRE. THERE IS GOING TO BE NO EFFECT TO HOMES AND ROADS. THE DISADVANTAGE, WE COULD ENCOUNTER A DELAY IN GETTING A SUSTAINED WATER SUPPLY TO FIGHT FIRES DEPENDING ON AVAILABILITY AND LOCATION. THERE ARE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ERROR OR MALFUNCTION. THERE IS A PLAN IN PLACE THAT WE TRAIN ON. THERE IS ALWAYS A DELIGHT WHEN MANUALLY GETTING WATER, MORE THAN PRESSURE. COMING FROM HYDRANT. THE WATER LEVEL IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING, AND THEY HAVE TO BE MONITORED.
AS AN FD AGENT, OF COURSE WE WILL ADVOCATE FOR FIRE HYDRANTS. A PLAN IS PUT IN PLACE EACH TIME WE ARE DISPATCHED. THE PRESENCE OF A FIRE HYDRANT IS NOT A GUARANTEE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A COST AND UNDERTAKING -- IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO UNBURDEN THE COST OF THE HYDRANTS, WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MAKE SURE WE ARE BRINGING YOU THE MOST EFFECTIVE FIREFIGHTING PROCEDURES THAT MATCH WHAT THE AREA PROVIDES TO US. ANY
QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WAS VERY THOROUGH. IT'S THE FIRST ONE YOU DID FOR US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FOR REAL. IT WAS INFORMATIVE. THANK YOU FOR
THAT. >> I DO HAVE TO SAY, THAT IS AN IMPRESSIVE DISPLAY OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE. I GIVE YOU A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THAT BECAUSE THIS IS A COMPLEX SITUATION, BUT I THINK YOU PRESENTED IT IN A VERY DIGESTIBLE FASHION. THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS, IF THE DRAFTING PIPE HAS MORE VALUE THAN THE CURRENT STATUS BUT IT STILL REQUIRES SOMEONE TO GO AND SCOUT AND MAKE SURE THAT WHERE YOU ARE DRAFTING FROM HAS SUFFICIENT WATER LEVELS, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE AQUIFER MAY PROVIDE A BETTER SITUATION IF YOU ALREADY HAVE MORE OF A GUARANTEED SOURCE, THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO
LOOK FOR. >> THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GUARANTEE. THAT PIPE GOES VERY FAR, AND I WOULD HAVE TO DUMP A TANK OF WATER TO FIND OUT IT IS NOT WORKING. SO IS IT DEPENDABLE IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES? YES. I DO NOT WANT TO USE THE WORD GUARANTEE BECAUSE THE REALITY IS, I COULD END UP DUMPING AN ENTIRE INTERVENTIONAL SUPPLY, AND THEN TOOK PRIME THAT PIPE, TO DISCOVER IT IS A FAILED.
>> MEANING THAT THE AQUIFER IS NOT A STATIC POSITION. IT IS A
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CONSTANT EBB AND FLOW. >> EVERYTHING ALWAYS IS UNTIL IT ISN'T. I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WE HAVE COME ACROSS IN THE 27 YEARS I HAVE DONE THIS WHERE I HAVE HAD DRY PIPES THAT ARE GOING THAT DID NOT WORK.
AND ONE BREAK IN THE PIPE DOWN BELOW, WHERE WE CANNOT SEE IT, THE AQUIFER MAY BE RELIABLE, BUT IF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE -- PIECES OF PIPE GET A BREAK, IT IS NO LONGER ABLE TO SUSTAIN THE VACUUM. IT IS RENDERED USELESS.
>> AND YOU HAVE TO USE ONE OF THE TRUCKS. WITH ITS WATER
>> IT BECOMES MY PUMP. >> OKAY. AND THEN FOR THE DRAFTING OPTION, HOW OFTEN DOES SOMEONE NEED TO GO OUT AND SCOUT? THERE IS NOT JUST A COST TO IT, BUT ALSO, AND OPERATIONAL NEED THAT IF NOT DONE, CREATES THE SAME SITUATION. THE SECOND PART -- IT IS A TWO-PARTER. WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HYDRANTS AND PRIMING THE PUMPS, IS THERE A DEGREE IN HOW MANY LOCATIONS YOU NEED TO DO WITH THESE? WHERE IT'S ALWAYS A SET AMOUNT OF LOCATIONS BASED ON WHERE THE RANCH IS? OR YOU ARE ABLE TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. YOU COULD HAVE ASK PRIME PUMP AREAS, OR IS IT ALL OR NOTHING?
>> THERE IS NO ALL OR NOTHING. WE CAN CATER IT TO WHAT THE AREA CAN PRESENT TO US. THE DEGREE OF THAT IS GOING TO INDICATE THAT MAINTENANCE LEVEL THAT THAT SITE NEEDS. SILT, MUD, RUNOFF -- IF DON IS NEXT TO A FIRM LOCATION WHERE THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF SILT MATERIAL, THAT ONE NEEDS MORE MAINTENANCE. SO EACH ONE WILL BE SITE DEPENDENT. THEY HAVE TO BE MAINTENANCE JUST TO CHECK THEM AND SEE WHAT IS GOING ON.
BUT, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TELL THAT BECAUSE EACH ONE
WOULD CHANGE DEPENDING. >> WOULDN'T IT ADD AN EXTRA LAYER OF RISK, WHETHER YOU DID THE AQUIFER OR THE DRAFTING? THAT PIPE IS THE UNKNOWN. IF YOU GO STRAIGHT TO THE WATER SOURCE, YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE DRAWING WITHOUT INTERFERENCE.
>> THE ELK RIVER IS 100% NOT VISIBLE TO ME ONCE IT BREAKS THROUGH THE SURFACE. THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO TO VALIDATE OR VERIFY THAT. IT CREATES A SLIGHT ADVANTAGE. I NORMALLY CAN SEE THE ENDPOINTS. I CAN SEE THE START POINT. IT IS A LITTLE BIT SAFER OF A RISK, AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A SHORTER DISTANCE OF PIPE. IF I DID HAVE TO DO IT, AND ATTEMPT TO PRIME, I'M NOT USING AS MUCH IS MY INTERVENTIONAL SUPPLY TO DO SO.
>> FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, IN THE FOUR OPTIONS THAT YOU PROVIDED, THE RESPONSE TIME OF EACH. AGAIN, AS YOU EXPRESSED BEFORE, TODAY'S FIRES ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COMPARED TO 40 YEARS AGO. BUT WHAT IS THE RESPONSE TIME? A FIRE HYDRANT IN FRONT OF YOU IS GOING TO TAKE SIX -- X AMOUNT OF MINUTES. IF YOU HAVE THE AQUIFER AND YOU ARE PRIMING IT, WHAT IS THAT RESPONSE TIME TO GET IT WHERE IF THE IDEAL CONDITION IS TO START PUTTING OUT THE FIRE, HOW LONG IS THAT GOING TO TAKE? OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE VARIABLES. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IN GENERAL.
>> THE MOST APPROPRIATE ANSWER WOULD BE -- I WOULD SAY THAT IF THE DRY PIPE IS WORKING A PROPERLY, IF THE AQUIFER PIPE IS WORKING APPROPRIATELY OR THE HYDRANT IS WORKING APPROPRIATE, ALL OF WHICH SHOULD BE ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE INTERVENTIONAL SUPPLY RUNS OUT. IN LIEU OF SOMETHING THAT WAS IN PERSON, IT SHOULD BE ESTABLISHED IN A TIME WHERE WE WOULD HAVE CONTINUOUS FLOW WITHOUT BREAKING OUT OF OUR INTERVENTIONAL SUPPLY THAT CAME WITH US. NOW, WITH THE SETTING UP DRAFTING PIPES, MOST OF THE TIME, WE CAN ENCOMPASS THAT, AS WELL, AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES OR SITUATIONAL OR ACCESS ISSUES OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE THAT PIPE ONLY GOES SO FAR, WHERE THE OTHER ONE IS IN A PREDICTABLE LOCATION. IT IS ONE PIECE OF DRAFTING HOST. ACCESS IS NOT NORMALLY AS RIGOROUS, SO, BUT, THOSE THREE ITEMS SHOULD ALL PROVIDE A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE WE GET IT DONE AND STILL SITS -- STAY IN THE SAFE ZONE OF HAVING WHAT WE
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NEED. >> THANK YOU. GREAT PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE IT. YOU'RE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE SUBJECT. MY QUESTION IS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS CARTOGRAPHY OR FROM SOME OTHER PERSPECTIVE, HAVE YOU DONE AN ANALYSIS ON LEGACY HOMES VERSUS NON-LEGACY HOMES IN OUR COMMUNITY SO THAT WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING IN TERMS OF THE TIMING FORMAT RELATIVE TO WHAT BOB WAS ASKING, IN TERMS OF SETTING UP IN TERMS OF DRAFTING AND THESE OTHER THINGS, IF YOU ARE DEALING WITH A MINIMUM NUMBER OF LEGACY HOMES AND MORE OF THOSE HOMES WILL FLASH OVER QUICKER, DOES IT REALLY MATTER WHICH OF THOSE FUNCTIONALITIES WE ARE USING? BECAUSE REALLY, WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS GETTING THERE TO SAVE LIVES AND DOING THE BEST YOU CAN FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
>> SO THE REALITY OF IT IS YOU PROBABLY HAVE NO HOMES THAT FIT IN THE CATEGORY OF LEGACY HOMES AT ALL. THE REASON I WANTED TO POINT THAT WAS SO THAT I COULD TALK ABOUT THE EVOLUTION OF FIRE GROWTH AND HOW -- HOW FAST IT SPREADS. I WANTED PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT ALTHOUGH HYDRANTS IS THE PINNACLE OF FIREFIGHTING, I DIDN'T WANT THEM TO NECESSARILY THINK THAT IT WAS GOING TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF EVERY FIRE BECAUSE I WANTED THEM TO UNDERSTAND THE MECHANISM OF FIRE GROWTH AND THE SPEED AT WHICH IT GROWS. SO, AND WE ALWAYS ARE GOING TO PRIORITIZE SELECTING THE WATER SOURCE THAT IS GOING TO BE THE QUICKEST TO ESTABLISH IN THE MOST RELIABLE. IF I CAN GET THAT BALANCE, THAT IS WHAT I'M GOING TO GO WITH, WHETHER IT BE TURBO DRAFT, WHETHER IT BE A SHUTTLE OPERATION, WHETHER IT BE THE TANKER, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT WE HAVE.
SO I'M ALWAYS GOING TO DEFAULT TO WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE THE QUICKEST TO ESTABLISH AND RELIABLY STABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT I WANT TO DO. BUT ASSUMING THERE IS ANY OF THAT, I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF YOU HAD ONE BECAUSE MODERN DAY FURNITURE
IMMEDIATELY NEGATES THAT. >> THAT IS WHY I WAS ASKING THE
QUESTION. >> THE POINT OF UNDERSTANDING, THE FIRE SPREAD, AS IT RELATES TO THE AMOUNT OF HEAT AND SPREAD, SOMETIMES, WE CANNOT GET AHEAD OF IT. ALL WE CAN DO IS STOP IT FROM GETTING THE NEXT THING.
>> THE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION TO THAT IS YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT YOUR SYSTEMS AND AESTHETICALLY, MEANING ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT IN ACTUALITY, AREN'T YOU GUYS USING WHATEVER YOU CAN RESELL TIME, SO YOU MIGHT BE USING A TRUCK OR SOME OTHER WATER SOURCE AND COMBINING THOSE TO DO WHAT YOU
NEED TO DO? >> THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN IT COMES BACK TO BEST PRACTICES, IN THE ABSENCE OF A HYDRANT, THE BEST PRACTICE WOULD BE WATER TANKER, WHICH YOU HAVE.
STATIC WATER SOURCES. WHICH WE USE. FOLDING TANK, WHICH YOU HAVE PURCHASED. YOU HAVE. DRIED HYDRANTS, WHICH IS IN DISCUSSION, IF THEY ARE RELIABLE, AND REALLY PUMPING, WHICH WE USE. THIS BOOK IS DESIGNED -- THIS BOOK IS DESIGNED TO TAKE EACH AREA, PREPLANNED UNDER THE BEST CIRCUMSTANCES AND PROVIDE ALL THREE OF THOSE REDUNDANCIES AND THE ROADMAP TO SET THEM UP IN REAL-TIME TO EVEN COME BACK.
HUMAN ERROR AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IT IS UPDATED REGULARLY, UTILIZING, WHICH YOU ALREADY WERE PUTTING IN PLACE -- THE BEST PRACTICES IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT, AND THOSE FOUR THINGS THAT WERE THE BEST PRACTICES, YOU HAVE ALREADY PUT THEM IN PLACE FOR THE RESIDENCE. AND WE ARE DRILLING ON A REGULAR
BASIS. >> IN ADDITION TO THE CANAL PROJECT, OR THE DRAINAGE DITCHES WE ARE WORKING ON, IT WILL SUPPLY A MUCH BETTER WATER SOURCE. THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY
HAVE. >> THE MORE MAINTENENCED IT IS,
THE BETTER FOR US. >> ONCE THIS IS COMPLETED, THERE WILL BE SEVEN FEET, EIGHT FEET?
>> I WANT TO AT MORE TO THAT BECAUSE IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE GET ALL THE RESIDENCE ON BOARD WITH THIS CANAL DREDGING PROJECT. WE ARE SEEKING EASEMENTS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR PARCEL OF LAND IN ORDER TO DO PROPER DREDGING AND CUTTING BACK. SO FOR ALL OF THOSE RESIDENTS, THIS IS CRITICAL FOR US TO HAVE THIS ALTERNATE WATER SOURCE. A CLEAN WATER SOURCE THAT HAS MORE THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE LOCATED
IN THAT AREA. >> AND I THINK THERE ARE STILL SOME HOLDOUTS THAT ARE NOT ALLOWING US TO DO THE PROJECT IN ITS ENTIRETY. WHICH WILL BENEFIT ALL OF THE RANCHES. YOU KNOW, SO THAT IS THAT SOMETHING WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON, AND WILL STILL WORK ON, BUT OBVIOUSLY, ANY RESIDENT THAT IS HERE, IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBOR TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE PROVIDING THIS EASEMENTS, SO WE CAN DO A FULL ENCUMBRANCE
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OF PROJECT, THAT WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL FOR US.>> JASON, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. AM I CORRECT THAT THE PROTOCOL IS -- WHEN YOU ARRIVE ON SCENE, TO FIRST USE THE WATER SOURCE FROM THE TRUCKS AS YOUR FIRST SOURCE OF WATER, AND THEN GO TO THE SECONDARY SOURCE, WHETHER IT IS DRAFTING OR HYDRANT, AND YOU ARE SETTING THAT UP IN THE
INTERIM? IS THAT RIGHT? >> THE FIRST COURSE OF ACTION IS TO START INTERVENING. THOSE WILL START WITH THE WATER THAT IS ON THE TRUCK. SO, AND THE WATER THAT IS ON THE TRUCK, WHEN YOU ARE DOING -- UNLESS WE HAVE LABELED THE STRUCTURE RIGHT AFTER THERE SOME STRUCTURES THAT IF YOU GO THROUGH THE ROOF, THE STRUCTURE IS ALREADY AT A POINT WHERE WE WOULD MAYBE GO INTO DEFENSIVE ACTION. THAT IS BIG WATER. WHEN YOU START TO USE BIG WATER COME IF YOU CAN IMMEDIATELY WIPE THE TRUCK UP BY DOING THOSE ACTIONS -- WE START USING MANAGED APPROACHES DURING THAT PPF TIME. WE ARE STARTING THE PROCESS WHILE WE ESTABLISH THAT. THE WATER SUPPLY OBSERVABLE SURE. WE BELIEVE THE WATER SPREAD CAN BE CONTAINED WITH TWO TANKS. THE DRIVER ON THE SECOND TRUCK WILL START SOURCING.
>> IMMEDIATE PRIORITY IS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A RELIABLE
WATER SOURCE. >> WHAT IS THE PROTOCOL, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARDS TO THE RANCHES FOR DISPATCHING THE
TANKER TRUCK? >> IT IS ALWAYS DISPATCHED DEPENDING ON WHETHER OR NOT IT IS USED DEPENDS ON ACCESS. IT IS A LARGE ITEM. IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT MAY BLOCK THE ROADWAY OR HINDER THE TRUCKS WE NEED TO GET IN, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DELAY, DEPENDING ON CIRCUMSTANCE. IT IS ROLLING BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT EVIDENTLY GIVES US 3000 ADDITIONAL GALLONS, AND IT IS THE ASSET THAT YOU PAY FOR. IT DOES GIVE
US A HELPING HAND. >> I DON'T EXPECT AN ANSWER TODAY, BUT I TAKE IT WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER TOOLS, LIKE WE HAVE THE TANKER TRUCK. OTHER TOOLS ASIDE FROM EXPLORING THE OPTIONS YOU LAID OUT. IT MAY ASSIST IN INCREMENTALLY MAKING OUR ABILITY TO PUT OUT FIRES FASTER OR MORE EFFICIENT.
>> YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS COMMITTED TO NEVER, NEVER STOP LOOKING AT MORE EFFICIENT WAYS TO PROTECT YOU AT EVERY LEVEL, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE THAT, WHETHER IT IS WATER, WHETHER IT IS EMS SERVICE DELIVERY, AND BRING THOSE TO YOU DURING YOUR PLANNING MEETINGS ENTERING YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING, SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT WAYS. WE WILL NEVER SEPARATE WHETHER IT IS A PUMP MOUNTED TRUCK, WHETHER IT IS SOME KIND OF PORTABLE TANK SYSTEM, WE ARE NOT DONE, INAUDIBLE ] AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE THE SOURCES WE HAVE TO BEST UTILIZE THEM. WE ARE NOT GOING TO SLEEP ON THAT. YOU HAVE OUR WORK. WE WILL ALWAYS PRIORITIZE MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE IN A POSITION TO DELIVER THE SERVICE YOU ARE
EXPECTING. >> I APPRECIATE THIS COMMENTS.
WE ARE GOING TO DO ON THE QUESTION. WE ARE GOING TO WRAP THIS UP, THEN WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM B.
>> AND IT IS REALLY DIRECTED TO NANCY. THAT IS, OF THE FOUR OPTIONS JASON HAS POINTED OUT, DO WE HAVE ANY ANALYSIS FOR THOSE THREE AREAS AS TO WHAT THE COST WOULD BE FOR IMPLEMENTING THOSE IN THOSE STRATEGIC AREAS?
>> BESIDES DOING THE INSTALLATION OF THE WATER LINES, WHICH WE DO HAVE NSID HERE TO GIVE A QUICK PRESENTATION -- THAT WOULD BE THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. WE HAVE TO SPEND TIME AND MONEY TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. I WILL ALWAYS BRING IT BACK TO YOU AT STRATEGIC PLANNING IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION THIS EVENING.
>> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT, BUT I THINK HAVING OPEN SOURCES OF WATER, WHETHER THEY BE LAKES, OR FUNCTIONING CANALS, OR DRAINAGE DITCHES, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM, IT MAKES ME FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW BUT -- NOT THAT WE SHOULDN'T INVESTIGATE IT, BUT JUST THE FACT THAT YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT BLIND ONCE THOSE
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ITEMS ARE IN PLACE. >> UNDERSTANDING THE COST FACTORS UNDER EACH OF THE OPTIONS, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR US TO HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING OF THAT AS WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE DECISIONS.
>> AGREE. THAT IS A GOOD SEGUE. THANK YOU, JASON.
>> THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE A QUICK PRESENTATION ON ESTIMATED WATER INSTALLATION. TAKE IT AWAY.
>> OKAY. GOOD EVENING. RIGHT? .COLOGNE, NORTH SPRINGS
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IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, DISTRICT MANAGER. I WILL BASICALLY JUST TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT NANCY MENTIONED. SOME OF THE COST ANALYSIS THAT WE DID. THESE ARE THINGS YOU MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT KNOW ABOUT. BACK IN 2002, NSID AND THE CITY OF PARKLAND DID A LOCAL AGREEMENT TO HAVE NSID SERVICE THE RANCHES IF THE TIME EVER CAME UP. CURRENTLY, WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT COME OUT OF THE 210 HOMES, THE NSID IS SERVING 53 OF THOSE HOMES. WE ARE ALREADY IN THE RANCHES, SERVING 53 CUSTOMERS RIGHT NOW. EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT IN OUR JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES, NSID'S CHARTER GIVES US THE AUTHORITY TO SERVE IN AND OUT OF THE DISTRICT. SOME OTHER GOODNESS, BACK IN 2016, WE DID A COST SHARE WITH THE CITY OF PARKLAND, AND WE FULLY DESIGNED THE ENGINEERING PLANS TO BRING WATER INTO THE RANCHES. THERE WAS A PERMIT THAT WAS ISSUED BY FDP, WHICH IS NOW EXPIRED. BASED ON THOSE PLANS, WE WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE A COST ANALYSIS. THAT IS A BIG DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT THIS IS ENGINEERED. IT SAVES COSTS FOR FUTURE GROWTH INTO THE AREA. BASED ON THOSE PLANS, WE WENT AHEAD, AND WE CONTACTED SOME SUPPLIERS. NOW, THIS IS JUST SUPPLIES. MATERIALS POINT WE CONTACTED THREE OF THE MAJOR SUPPLIERS, AND THESE ARE THE COSTS THAT THEY GAVE US, AND OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS GOOD JUST FOR A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME.THIS GIVES YOU A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE MATERIAL IS. NOT WHAT THE LABOR WILL COST. THERE IS A BIG DISCREPANCY BETWEEN SOME OF THEM, BUT IF YOU TAKE THE AVERAGE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 3 MILLION OR SO, BASED ON WHAT THE MATERIALS WILL COST TO BRING THOSE MATERIALS TO THE RANCHES. SO, IF YOU GO AHEAD AND BASICALLY DO THE MATH, YOU KNOW, THERE IS 210 UNITS. WE ARE SERVING 53 NOW. THERE'S 157 UNITS LEFT TO GO AHEAD AND POTENTIALLY SERVE IN THE RANCHES AREA. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF MATH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEY WERE TALKING GALLONS PER MINUTE. I KNOW THE FIRE TRUCK HOLDS 1000 GALLONS. WE DO 1000 GALLONS OUT OF ONE MINUTE OUT OF ONE HYDRANT. SO THE SUPPLY IS DEFINITELY ENDLESS. WE WENT AHEAD AND WE TOOK THE MATERIAL COST. WE TOOK AN ESTIMATION ON LABOR, AND WE CAME UP WITH AN ESTIMATE OF $12 MILLION TO DO IT. THAT IS TALKING WITH CONTRACTORS. SOME HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE. HOWEVER, THIS IS JUST AN ESTIMATE, AND WE WOULD KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL COST IS WHEN WE GO OUT TO BID. WE WOULD ADVERTISE IN THE NEWSPAPER. WE WOULD HAVE TO LICENSE CONTRACTOR SUBMIT BIDS, AND THEN WE WOULD GET ACTUAL COSTS. BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD NUMBER TO GO OFF OF. 12 MILLION. A LITTLE BIT OF FUZZY MATH HERE. IF WE LOOK AT PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST, THAT WILL COST US 25,968,000. WE JUST DID A BOND REFINANCE AND WE GOT 3.88%. THAT'S BASED ON 30 YEARS. SO, THIS IS THE MAGIC NUMBER. IF YOU GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT AND DIVIDED INTO 30 YEARS, IT IS $165,000. $5513 PER YEAR. WITH THAT, ANY
QUESTIONS? >> YEAH. YOU GO FIRST.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BRINGING
WATER TO EACH OF THE HOMES? >> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT FIRE HYDRANTS.
>> WHEN YOU SAY THE HOMES, OUTSIDE THE HOMES. THERE WOULD BE A CONNECTION FEE OR THERE WOULD NOT BE A CONNECTION FEE?
>> THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT. THAT IS A POOR DECISION. THIS IS THE COST TO BRING POTABLE WATER TO THE HOMES. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RUNNING HYDRANTS, AND RUNNING POTABLE WATER. WATER IS NOT DESIGNED TO STAY IN THE LINES FOR ALONG PERIOD OF TIME. IT IS TIED INTO OUR SYSTEM. WE WOULD NOT SUPPORT THE IDEA OF JUST RUNNING THE HYDRANTS. WATER HAS TO BE USED. YOU HAVE TO USE IT BECAUSE THE TYPE OF DISINFECTION WE USE, WE USE CHLORAMINES. BEYOND THAT POINT, YOU ARE GOING TO GET DEGRADATION. IT IS GOING TO BE BAD WATER QUALITY. SO IT IS NOT JUST BRINGING THE HYDRANT THERE. YOU HAVE TO USE THE WATER. IF YOU DON'T USE THE WATER, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.
>> ASSERTIVELY UNDERSTAND THE PROJECT, WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS TAKING THE MAINLINE. YOU ARE RUNNING LINES FROM THAT ALL THE WAY DOWN THE VARIOUS RIGHTS TO WHERE ALL OF THE HOMES ARE, AND THEN YOU ARE DOING HOOKUPS TO THE HOMES, AND ALSO, INSTALLING
HYDRANTS ON THOSE LINES. >> THAT IS CORRECT. THIS IS A
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FULL PROJECT FOR WATER. I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT HYDRANTS, BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, JUST TO REITERATE, WE JUST CAN'T DO THAT. IT IS GOING TO AFFECT THE SYSTEM. YOU HAVE TO USE THE WATER. THIS IS REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER, TOO. THIS IS GOOD WATER. WE CAN'T JUST LET IT SIT INTHE LINES. >> IS IT AN ALL OR NOTHING PROJECT? MEANING THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD EFFECTUATE THIS PROJECT IS THAT YOU GET EVERYONE IN THE RANCH BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, TO HOOK UP? VERSUS YET 51 MINUTES -- UNIT OR WHATEVER YOU HAVE NOW, YOU CAN'T DO IT WITH THE 50 WHEN YOU HAVE CONNECTED?
>> I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN, FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE RANCHES IN 20 YEARS AGO, THERE WERE ONLY FIVE THAT WE WERE EXPLORING. NOW, WE ARE UP TO 50 SOMETHING.
NOT ALL OR NOTHING. WE CAN PICK CERTAIN ROADS. YOU KNOW. IT CAN BE A SLOW PROCESS. WE CAN INTEGRATE IT SLOWLY. WE CAN SEE WHERE THE TROUBLE AREAS ARE. AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE WATER QUALITY, THEN I THINK THAT WE WOULD SUPPORT IT AND WE WOULD BE ON BOARD WITH IT. THAT IS A DECISION WE WOULD HAVE TO
MAKE. >> DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING?
>> I GUESS FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, SO, THE WATER QUALITY ISSUE, YOU ARE SAYING THAT NO ONE CARES WHETHER THE WATER THAT IS SPRAYED AT A FIRE, WHETHER IT IS DRINKABLE OR NOT, BUT YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU CANNOT DO IT BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY AFFECTS THE OTHER WATER THAT WOULD BE USED FOR POTABLE SOURCES. YOU CAN'T SEPARATE THEM.
>> EVERYTHING IS TIED TOGETHER, SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE USAGE.
SO BASICALLY, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE FIRST OFF, WE HAVE FDAP LEVELS WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN. SOMEONE HAS TO BE FLUSHING 70,000 GALLONS A DAY, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WATER IS JUST GOING TO GO ON THE GROUND, SO WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO HOOK UP, AND IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, THE PEOPLE ON OUR SYSTEM ARE VERY HAPPY. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE BEFORE, THEY WERE HAVING TO MAINTAIN THEIR OWN EXCHANGE UNITS. THEIR OWN REVERSE OSMOSIS SYSTEMS. THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT NOW.
WHATEVER COST THEY WOULD'VE HAD COME OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A BIGGER COST, BUT, YOU KNOW, --
>> THERE WERE 53 HOMES IN THERE. YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, BUT ARE THEY DISPARATE THROUGHOUT THE RANCHES? ARE THEY WITHIN THE OCEAN
>> THEY ARE IN A MAGIC AREA, SO IN THAT AREA THERE, THERE'S A COUPLE. THE OTHER DAY, ACTUALLY, A FEW MONTHS AGO, THERE WAS ONE PERSON WHO WANTED WATER. SO HE WAS WILLING TO PAY WHATEVER. HE RAN THE LINE, AND HIS NEIGHBORS BENEFITED FROM THAT. THEY WERE ABLE TO HOOK UP.
>> AT A MINIMUM, IF THERE IS ALREADY SOME KIND OF A STARTING POINT OF HOUSES WITH THE WATER, AT LEAST IN THOSE LOCATIONS, WOULDN'T THEY BE ABLE TO PUT HYDRANTS IN FRONT OF THOSE HOUSES THAT HAVE THE WATER HOOKUP?
>> THEY ALREADY HAVE IT. >> ALL 53?
>> OF COURSE. WE ARE IN COOPERATION. THESE PLANS ARE APPROVED BY FDAP, AND THE HYDRANTS ARE REQUIRED.
>> AND THE COST FOR EACH OF THOSE , I IMAGINE, IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE RESIDENCE?
>> YEAH. I MEAN, LISTEN. THIS IS A REALLY ROUGH ESTIMATE. THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY KNOW FOR SURE IS TO TAKE THOSE PLANS THAT ARE ENGINEERED, AND PUT AN AD IN THE NEWSPAPER AND SEE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE. WE KNOW THE MATERIAL COSTS ARE GOING TO BE. WE HAVE THREE SUPPLIERS WHO GAVE US ESTIMATES. REALLY, IT'S ALL ABOUT LABOR. AND, WHETHER YOU WANT TO PIECEMEAL THIS TOGETHER, WHICH IS DUE ONE STREET AT A TIME -- IT IS SLOWLY CONVERTING. THE HOMES ALREADY HOOKED UP, THEY ARE SATISFIED. THEY HAVE HYDRANTS.
THEY HAVE GOOD WATER QUALITY. WE WOULD EXPECT THAT FOR THE REST OF THE RANCHES TO FALL IN PLACE.
>> WHAT IS IMPOTENT TO POINT OUT IS THE ROUTE WE DECIDED TO TAKE DOSE THE ASSESSMENT FOR THE RESIDENCE, THAT IS TYPICAL.
CLAIMANT >> ANYONE WHO HAS WATER AND SEWER, THEY PAID THAT ASSESSMENT. IT WAS NOT DONE INITIALLY. THAT IS STILL A COST THAT HAS TO BE BORN. I WOULD VENTURE, TO ASSUME, MOST PEOPLE IN PARKLAND HAD PAID THAT ASSESSMENT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. MOST OF PARKLAND, AT LEAST THE DEVELOPMENT, WERE BUILT ON SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS. THEIR ASSESSMENTS. MAYBE NOT AS HIGH, BUT DEFINITELY, MAYBE 50% OF
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WHAT THAT ONE IS. >> GO AHEAD.
>> THANKS FOR BEING HERE, FIRST OF ALL, AND BRINGING YOUR STUFF. IS THE FINANCING THE VEHICLE THE SAME WAY YOU FINANCED OTHER SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS FOR OTHER
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS? >> YES. THIS WOULD BE A WATER
AND SEWER BOND. >> AND DRILLING DOWN ON WHAT THEY SAID, IS THERE A CREATIVE WAY TO TAP INTO THE LINES THAT SERVICE THE 53 HOMES, WHETHER IT IS ADDITIONAL PUMPS OR WHATEVER FOR PURPOSES OF EMERGENCY?
>> ANYBODY -- THOSE FIRE HYDRANTS ARE OPEN TO ANYBODY.
YET. WE JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL TO SAY EMERGENCY.
>> MY POINT IS, IS THERE A WAY -- I THINK THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET, TO EXPAND THE REACH. CREATE A GREATER RANGE.
>> THAT IS WHAT THE PRICE TAG WOULD BE WITH THE REMAINDER OF
THE HOMES. >> THAT IS TO DO EVERYTHING.
THAT IS TO PUT THE WATER IN THE HOME, WHICH MAY BE THE LONG-TERM GOAL, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT MORE IMMEDIATE -- IS THERE A WAY TO EXPAND THE RANGE THAT THE CURRENT 53 HOMES THAT ARE SERVICED, AND THE HYDRANTS SERVICING THIS 53 HOMES, TO EXPAND THAT RANGE AT A LITTLE BIT TO GET MORE
COVERAGE? >> YOU NEED A LONGER FIREHOSE.
>> WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS EXPANDING THE HYDRANTS ONLY.
ONCE AGAIN, WE START EXPANDING HYDRANTS WITHOUT WATER USAGE.
WE ARE GOING TO RUN INTO THAT. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE WATER
QUALITY ISSUES. >> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OPTION TWO AND DRAFTING AT ALL OF THOSE, YOU ALL, I TAKE IT, OVERSEE MAINTENANCE OF CANALS AND LAKES AND THAT PROCESS. THE DO YOU HAVE A PROTOCOL FOR HOW
THAT IS? >> I WILL SAY, I AM AN EXPERT ON THE AQUIFER. THE BISCAYNE AQUIFER IS TEMPERAMENTAL. ONE DAY, YOU CAN GET A GREAT AMOUNT OF WATER OUT OF IT. WHAT HE WAS DISCUSSING, IT IS WELL. WE ALSO GO TO ANOTHER AQUIFER CALLED THE FLORIDA. DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF DAY, THE MONTH, WHETHER IT IS RAINING OR NOT, THE WATER LEVELS, THE WELLS ARE TEMPERAMENTAL. IT IS NOT THAT RELIABLE, ESPECIALLY, WE USE OUR WELLS ON A DAILY BASIS. ESPECIALLY IF YOU DRILL WELL -- THAT IS WHAT IT IS. THAT IS A DRY HYDRANT. IF YOU'RE GOING TO DRILL IT, YOU HAVE TO USE IT A LOT, OTHERWISE, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE ISSUES. YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO KEEP PUMPING IT. YOU KNOW. IF IT SITS THERE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE RELIABLE. THAT IS FROM OUR EXPENSE, TOO.
>> FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. APPRECIATE IT. IS WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING -- IS THAT FOR NSID TO HIT ON THE
WHOLE THING? >> NO SIR. I AM BASICALLY HERE PROPOSING WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET WATER INTO THE AREA, WHETHER YOU WANT US TO HANDLE EVERYTHING, PUT OUT THE BOND -- RIGHT NOW, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY. AND ENTER INTO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. I'M PHYSICALLY PRESENTING WHAT IT WOULD TAKE
TO GET WATER INTO THE AREA. >> THE OTHER POINT IS -- AND THIS IS JUST A COMMENT. OUR FIRST STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING, WE DISCUSSED THIS. WE DISCUSSED OPTIONS REGARDING ROADS, REGARDING WATER, SEWER, ALL THE STUFF. THE PRICE FOR JUST WATER WAS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW .4, $5 MILLION.
THIS IS IN 2000 -- >> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
PREDATING ASPIRATED >> IT IS STRATEGIC PLANNING.
>> THAT IS THE PROBLEM WHEN YOU WAIT. WHEN YOU DON'T DO IT.
THE PRICES ARE ONLY GOING TO GET HIGHER.
>> I SHARE THE SAME SENTIMENT. IT CAME BACK INTO THE QUESTION.
PEOPLE HAVE TO HOOKUP -- OR THEY ARE REQUIRED. ALL THIS OTHER STUFF. IT COMES BACK TO THE SAME SENTIMENT. I DON'T WANT TO COMPARE ONE TO THE OTHER, BUT WE STRUGGLE WITH PINETREE AND WHAT TO DO, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
WE ARE GOING TO STRUGGLE THE SAME WAY. FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY, KEN AND I WILL NOT BE HERE TO STRUGGLE WITH IT. BUT IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION. THE PRICE TAG IS NOT GOING DOWN. IT IS ONLY GOING UP. THE INTEREST RATE MAY DROP A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE PRICE TAG IS CONTINUING TO GO UP. SO, IN MY OPINION, THE DECISION HAS TO BE MADE, WHETHER WE WANT TO PUT WATER IN, OR WHETHER WE WANT TO USE ANOTHER SOURCE. IF WE WANT TO PUT WATER IN, WE HAVE TO BITE THE BULLET, LIKE WE DID
WITH PINETREE'S. >> BUT TO SAY, WE BITE THE BULLET, WE ONLY BITE THE BULLET TO MAKE THE DECISION, TO HAVE
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THE ASSESSMENT. AND I THINK THAT IS WHERE THERE IS A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE RESIDENCE AND THE DECISIONS WE MAKE. RIGHT? BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW MANY RESIDENTS IN PARKLAND HAVE PAID THE SAME ASSESSMENT. I KNOW I HAVE. I KNOW YOU HAVE. IN WATER CREST. SO FOR US TO BE FAIR, THE ASSESSMENT HAS TO BE BORN BY THOSE RESIDENTS IN THE RANCHES, WHICH IS A TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW. SO FOR ME, YOU ARE MAKING PEOPLE PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT MILD FIRE HYDRANTS ARE BETTER, AS WE HEARD FROM THE CHIEF. IT IS NOT THE ONLY WAY.SO WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH, WITH ARPA FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS DRAINAGE DITCH PROJECT MOVING, WHICH ALLOWS US NOW TO PROVIDE A BETTER SOURCE OF WATER THROUGHOUT THE RANCHES, AND THOSE RESIDENTS IN THE RANCHES, DO NOT HAVE TO, FOR THE DRAINAGE DITCH PROJECT ALONE, THERE ARE NO FUNDS COMING OUT OF THEIR POCKETS. THERE'S THE 4 OR $5 MILLION FROM ARPA, WE HAVE $5 MILLION FROM THE CITY FUNDS, AND IT DOES APPEAR THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OVER BUDGET, POTENTIALLY, WHICH THE CITY HAS SAID, THE CITY WILL PAY FOR THE DRAINAGE DITCHES. SO THE CITY MAY HAVE TO SPEND SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO GET THESE DRAINAGE DITCHES DONE, BUT AGAIN, NO COST TO THE RESIDENCE. OBVIOUSLY, THE ROADS IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION, BUT AGAIN, THE ROAD IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. BUT THE RESIDENCE GET DRAINAGE DITCHES. IT HELPS WITH DRAINAGE AND SET -- FIRE SUPPRESSION. WE ARE ASKING FOR AN ASSESSMENT. I GET IT. I LIVED IN THE WRENCHES, I WOULDN'T WANT TO PAY ANY ASSESSMENT, EITHER, BUT SITTING IN MY SHOES, WHICH I THINK IS DIFFICULT SOMETIMES FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, WHEN YOU ARE SITTING ON THIS SIDE, YOU HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT IS BEST FOR ALL OF THE RESIDENCE, AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO SAY, NOBODY HAS TO PAY ANYTHING FOR ANYTHING, AND WE WOULD JUST DO EVERYTHING, WE KNOW THAT IS NOT FEASIBLE, NOR IS IT FAIR TO THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS, WHO HAVE ALREADY PAID THESE ASSESSMENTS THAT SOME OF THE RANCHES ARE ASKING US TO NOT ENFORCE.
>> I WANT TO POINT OUT, BECAUSE ROB SAID IT, AND CORRECT ME IF I SAY ANYTHING INACCURATE, BUT THIS IS A BALLPARK ASSESSMENT.
THERE ARE POTENTIALLY CONNECTION FEES, AND WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THOSE, IN GENERAL?
>> THE CONNECTION FEES ARE BASICALLY TO GO BACK INTO THE SYSTEM FOR ANY UPGRADES WE MAY HAVE, OR TO PAY DOWN DEBT SERVICE. BASICALLY, WE CHARGE ALL OF THE DEVELOPER CONNECTION FEES. THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL AREA. YOU KNOW, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE CHARGED THE PEOPLE THE CONNECTION FEES THAT WE WOULD CHARGE IT DEVELOPER. EVERYTHING IS NEGOTIABLE. THE BOARD HAS THE FULL AUTHORITY TO WAIVE CONNECTION FEES, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A MAJOR DEVELOPER COMING IN.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT PAY THE CONNECTION FEES, AND WHAT HAPPENS IS, WE TAKE THIS CONNECTION FEES AND WE DUMP IT BACK INTO OUR SYSTEM FOR ANY UPGRADES WE MAY NEED.
>> FOR SPREADING OUT THE COST.
>> WHILE I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT ABOUT NOT PAYING THE CONNECTION FEES OR NOT CHARGING THE CONNECTION FEES, YOU STILL GET CHARGED BECAUSE THEY CHARGE MORE FOR THEIR HOMES. THE DEVELOPER IS NOT EATING THAT CONNECTION FEE. YOU CAN MAYBE CHARGE MORE BECAUSE IT IS A DEVELOPER -- THE DEVELOPER IS PASSING THAT COST ON, YOU KNOW, TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
>> AND THE CONNECTION FEES IN 2002 WERE A LOT LESS THAN WHAT WE CHARGED TODAY. BUT LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD BE NEGOTIATED. LIKE WHEN WE DID RANCH ROAD. IT WAS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN NSID AND THE CITY OF PARKLAND. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY PAID MUCH IN CONNECTION FEES. WE HAD SOME
HOMES THERE. >> BUT THAT IS THE CONNECTION FEES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. NOT THE ASSESSMENT OF THE INITIAL INFRASTRUCTURE CLAUSE. SO. I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANKS FOR EVERYBODY BEING HERE, AS WELL.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO OPEN DISCUSSION. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HOLD FOR ANOTHER DAY. IT IS 6:59, SO LET'S TAKE A QUICK FIVE MINUTE
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