Sep 12, 2024 City Commission Meeting

[1. Call to Order]

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>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. EXCUSE ME, CATHERINE. I KNEW IT WAS SOMEBODY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING FOR THE CITY OF PARKLAND ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 12TH TO ORDER. PLEASE

RISE FOR THE PLEDGE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> ROLL CALL?

>> COMMISSIONER BRIER? >> HERE.

>> VICE MAYOR ISROW? >> HERE.

>> MAYOR WALKER. >> HERE.

[4. Fiscal Year 2025 Budget Items]

>> COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN. >> I AM HERE.

>> AND COMMISSIONER CUTLER. >> HERE.

>> OKAY. FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET ITEMS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE NEXT FIVE ITEMS. THIS IS ITEMS 4A THROUGH E ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED TOGETHER HOWEVER, WE WILL NEED SEPARATE VOTES ON EACH OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS FOR THE FOLLOWING PRESENTATION AND THE COMMENT. I WILL GO AHEAD AND READ 05 TO THE RECORD AND RELEASE STATEMENT PURSUANT TO FLORIDA LAW THEN I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. JOHNSON TO GO OVER THE ITEMS. THE FIRST ITEM IS ITEM 4A, RESOLUTION 2024-071 FISCAL YEAR 2025 FIRE ASSESSMENT READ. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE PROVISION OF FIRE RESCUE SERVICES, FACILITIES , AND PROGRAMS IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA.

PROVIDING AUTHORITY, DEFINITIONS AND INTERPRETATION; CONFIRMING THE PRELIMINARY RATE RESOLUTION; REIMPOSING FIRE RESCUE ASSESSMENTS AGAINST ASSESSED PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF PARKLAND FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNEFFECTIVE IS A RESOLUTION 2020 TOWARD-072 FISCAL YEAR 25 SOLID WASTE ASSESSMENT. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL OF SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLABLE MATERIALS IN THE INCORPORATED AREA OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA; PROVIDING AUTHORITY, IS RESOLUTION 2024-073. FISCAL YEAR 2025 STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ASSESSMENT. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE PROVISION OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SERVICES, DIVIDING AUTHORITY, DEFINITIONS, AND INTERPRETATION CONFIRMING THE PRELIMINARY RATE RESOLUTION FOR STORMWATER SERVICE ASSESSMENTS , IMPOSING STORMWATER SERVICE ASSESSMENTS AGAINST CERTAIN DEVELOP UPPITY WITHIN THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2024, APPROVING THE RATES OF ASSESSMENT APPROVING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE, WRITING FOR COLLECTION PROVIDING FOR EFFECT, ONE FOR, SEVERABILITY, AND AN EFFECTIVE RATE. AN ORDINANCE 2024-0710 FISCAL YEAR 2025 MILLAGE RATE. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA, ADOPTING THE MILLAGE RATE TO BE LEVIED FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2024 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2025; STATING THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE BY EFFECTIVE DATE. FINALLY, FOR E IS ORDINANCE 2024-011. FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET. FIRST READING. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA ADOPTING A BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2024 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025 PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THE CITY OF PARKLAND PROPOSED OPERATING MILLAGE RATE IS EQUAL TO 4.2979 MILLS, WHICH IS 6.06% MORE THAN THE ROLLBACK RATE OF 4.05 23 MILLS CALCULATED PURSUANT TO FLORIDA LAW. AND NOW, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO FOR MR. JOHNSON FOR THE

PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. SO WE HAVE NOW REACHED THE FOURTH STEP IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET PROCESS WHERE WE HAVE OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON THE MILLAGE AND THE BUDGET AND THEN, OUR FINAL HEARING IS ON THE AD VALOREM ASSESSMENTS.

AFTER TONIGHT, WE HAVE ONE MORE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 25TH AT 6 P.M. AND THAT IS THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FISCAL

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THE SOLID WASTE ASSESSMENT. THIS IS YOUR GARBAGE AND RECYCLING SERVICES EVERY YEAR. THIS IS GOING UP 5% BASED ON THE NEWEST CONTRACT THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN JUNE. SO, THE NEW RATE IS ABOUT $453 WITH AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $21 OR SO.

AND AS I SAID, THIS IS A STRAIGHT PASS-THROUGH TO THE CITY AND WASTE MANAGEMENT ACED ON THOSE CONTRACTUAL TERMS. AND THEN, THE LAST NON-ABNORMAL ASSESSMENT IS THE STORMWATER ASSESSMENT AND THAT COVERS STORMWATER RUNOFF, DRAINAGE .

THINGS LIKE THAT. CITYWIDE COMMON AREAS. AND THE RATES VARY BETWEEN $39 PER HOUSE TO ABOUT $180 PER HOME. SO, I ALWAYS LIKE TO SHOW THIS GRAPH FOR ANY RESIDENTS IN THE AUDIENCE OR ANYONE THAT MAY BE LISTENING AT HOME. HOW MUCH OF THIS TAX BILL DOES THE CITY ACTUALLY RECEIVE? HERE IN PARKLAND, WE RECEIVED ABOUT 21% OF YOUR TAX BILL. ABOUT 66% OF IT IS BETWEEN BROWARD COUNTY IN THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE REMAINING 70% OR SO IS DIVIDED UP BETWEEN FOUR OTHER TEXT AMENITIES HERE IN THE COUNTY. THIS NEXT CHART SHOWS A LITTLE COMPARISON AS TO WHERE OUR MILLAGE RATE IS COMPARED TO OUR NEIGHBORS. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE THE LOWEST . AND I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT BOTH TAMARACK AND COCONUT CREEK HAVE PROPOSED A MILLAGE RATE INCREASES AT THEIR MEETING IN JULY. SOME GENERAL FUND HIGHLIGHTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 . WE'RE HAVING TWO NEW FULL-TIME POSITIONS. ONE IS A SENIOR NETWORK ENGINEER AND ALSO, WITH THAT, WE ARE ELIMINATING ONE FULL-TIME FOR THE ONE PART-TIME HISTORIAN THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN TO PLANNING AND ONE TIME BUILDING INSPECTOR. THIS BUDGET ALSO APPLIES FOR COST-OF-LIVING INCREASE ON OCTOBER 1ST. MERIT INCREASES ABOUT 0.3% AND THEN ALSO, OUR RETIREMENT CONTRIBUTIONS UNCHANGED AT 11% OF THE EMPLOYEE'S SALARY AND I WOULD ALWAYS LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS NOT A TRADITIONAL PENSION PLAN THAT SOME CITIES OR COUNTIES OR STATES POTENTIALLY SUBJECT AS SIGNIFICANTLY LARGE. THE CITY IS NOT IN THAT POSITION IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM. WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE THE CITIES 57 MATCH AND WE ARE CONTINUING EMPLOYEE HEALTH BENEFITS AS WELL. AS I MENTIONED, THE BSO CONTRACT IS INCREASING ABOUT $700,000. THE CORALS BRINGS FIRE CONTRACT $500,000. ALSO IN THIS BUDGET, WE HAVE OUR STABILIZATION RESERVE. THAT IS IN THE EVENT OF NATURAL DISASTER SUCH AS A HURRICANE OR ECONOMIC DOWNTURN. SO WE HAVE 25% OF THE BUDGET. EXPENDITURES ARE JUST UNDER $13 BILLION A YEAR FOR SUCH A SITUATION. WE HAVE AN INSURANCE DEDUCTIBLE OF $750,000 THAT COVERS ANY FEMINIST PROPERTY IN THE EVENT OF A NATURAL DISASTER. ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR OF THE BUDGET IS PUT AWAY MONEY FOR OUR FUTURE REPLACEMENTS. SO, THIS BUDGET INCLUDES INFRASTRUCTURE

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OTHERWISE, EVERYTHING IS THE EXACT SAME WITH REGGIE RESERVE, LIBERTY PARK , SO ON AND SO FORTH. THE INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENTS. NOTHING HAS CHANGED HERE SINCE WE LAST MET IN AUGUST. THE LARGEST PROJECT IS STILL THE CITY HALL AND THEN THE BACK PLAYGROUND TERRAMAR. AND IF YOU OTHER PLANNED INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENTS THAT ARE ALONG THE WAY. SAME THING WITH OUR CAPITAL PLACEMENT. THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGED HERE IS I ADDED $5000 TO THE FIRE EQUIPMENT JUST TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE SOME PRICE INCREASES RECENTLY SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE FULLY COVERED, OTHERWISE, ALL OF THESE REPLACEMENTS HAVE BEEN PLANNED ACCORDING TO OUR ANNUAL CAPITAL REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE . SO AGAIN, NOTHING OTHER THAN ADDING $5000 FOR THE CVA EQUIPMENT, NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE WE LAST MET IN AUGUST. THERE ARE THREE PROJECTS THAT WILL BE ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE SEPARATE CAPITAL FUNDS. STATES ROADWAY PLAN, THE WRENCHES RESURFACING AND THEN THE PINE TRAILS . WE WILL BE CONTINUING THE PROJECTS THAT ARE FUNDED FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT WHICH INCLUDES RANCH IMPROVEMENTS AND PINETREE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. WHICH ALL INTO A COMPLETE CAPITAL PROGRAM OF JUST UNDER $41 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 . AND WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE ANY

QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE. >> AS ALWAYS, CHRIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND YOU GUYS ALWAYS DO A FANTASTIC JOB ON THE BUDGET AND GLAD THAT WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP OUR BUDGET EXACTLY THE SAME WHEN YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS ARE NOT DOING THE SAME SO, THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR YOUR CONTINUED HARD WORK. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR

CHRIS? >> IF I CAN ADD TO THIS. AT OUR WORKSHOP, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSION DIRECTED US TO LOOK AT WAS OF THE SCHOOL CROSSING GUARDS. SO, WHAT WE DID IS I HAD ASKED JACKIE WEIMAR TO GO OUT TO ALL THREE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND MAKE THE ASSESSMENT OF THE SITUATION.

WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT IS THE DRIVEWAY WHERE THE SCHOOL BUSES AND TEACHERS PARK. SO SHE WENT OUT AND DID AN ASSESSMENT ON EACH OF THE SCHOOLS AND SAY EACH SCHOOL DOES SOMETHING

DIFFERENTLY. >> JUST TO CONFIRM, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS?

>> YES. PER FLORIDA STATUTE, WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE CROSSING GUARDS AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. OF COURSE, THAT IS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT AND AT THE REQUEST OF THE COMMISSION.

UPON DOING THE THREE DIFFERENT ASSESSMENTS AT THE SCHOOLS, EACH SCHOOL HANDLES IT DIFFERENTLY. ACCORDING TO STATE STATUTE THAT IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT A CROSSING GUARD IS PLACED AT THIS DRIVEWAY, HOWEVER, IF IT IS A HAZARDOUS WORKING CONDITION , IT NEEDS TO BE ASSESSED THROUGH A UNIQUE GROUP AND THEY CAN DETERMINE IF IT IS HAZARDOUS AND THEN, WE WOULD NEED TO PUT A CROSSING GUARD IN THERE. SO, AT THIS POINT, IT IS NOT SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS. WE ARE LOOKING AT $33,000 FOR THE TOTAL OF THREE CROSSING GUARDS AND THE ASSESSMENT, WHETHER OR NOT YOU CHOOSE TO DO THE HAZARDOUS WALKING ASSESSMENT, YOU KNOW THAT IS UP TO THE COMMISSION, BUT AT THIS TIME, -- AND JACKIE CAN ADD TO IT, I BELIEVE WE ARE JUST GOING TO RECOMMEND DOING THE CROSSING

GUARDS. >> YEAH. I KNOW THIS WAS RECOMMENDED BY VICE MAYOR ISROW AND I KNOW THERE WERE SOME RESIDENTS THAT REACHED OUT TO HIM SO HE BROUGHT IT UP SO AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, THAT IS MONEY WELL SPENT.

>> AGREED. AND AN EXPENSE FOR THE CITY FOR AN ASSESSMENT WHEN WE ALREADY RECOGNIZE IT AS A SAFETY ISSUE.

>> WILL HAVE TO DO IT BECAUSE JACKIE DID IT. WE DON'T HAVE TO DETERMIE WHAT IS REQUIRED BECAUSE JACKIE DID IT AND THAT

WE SHOULD DO IT. >> I AM TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH

IT. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONERS?

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>> I FULLY SUPPORT HAVING A CROSSING GUARD THERE. MY ONLY CAVEAT TO THAT IS THAT I THINK THAT -- AND AGAIN, JACKIE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG -- IT IS A COMBINATION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, SCHOOL DISTRICT, THAT WOULD SIT AND DETERMINE IF

THIS WAS A HAZARD. >> YES, SIR. IT WOULD BE LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE CITY, AND SOMEBODY FROM THE SCHOOLS. YES.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO STILL GO FORWARD WITH THAT. THERE IS NO

COST TO IT, CORRECT? >> NO.

>> JUST TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT TO DETERMINE IF IT IS A HAZARDOUS WALKING CONDITION THAN IF IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD OBLIGATE US TO DO THAT IN PERPETUITY. IF IT WASN'T, WE COULD STILL PROVIDE THE SERVICE BUT JUST KNOW THAT IF FOR SOME REASON IT CROSSING GUARD DID NOT SHOW UP, WE DIDN'T HAVE NECESSARILY THAT THE LIABILITY AND THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CAVEAT. IT IS THE SAME WAY WITH SUICIDE PREVENTION AWARENESS

MONTH. SROS. >> IS? I THOUGHT --

>> YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE. THERE IS THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE HAVE. WE DON'T WANT IT BUT IF IT WAS SOMETHING AT ANOTHER SCHOOL, WE COULD TRANSFER. THE CAPTAIN COULD TALK TO THAT BUT I DON'T EVEN WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT. BUT MY POINT BEING IS THAT THIS WAY, WE KNOW THAT IT IS A HAZARDOUS WALKING CONDITION, IF THERE WAS CURRENTLY ANY , LET'S SAY, STATE FUNDING THAT WOULD PROVIDE FOR HAZARDOUS WALKING CONDITIONS, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT OFFSETS OUR COSTS AS WELL SO I JUST THINK MOVING, OBVIOUSLY, BOTH OF THEM IN PARALLEL WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT.

>> OKAY. >> AS WHAT I.

>> OKAY. >> JUST THAT WE ARE CLEAR, WE ARE GOING TO DO ANYHOW BUT WE ARE ALSO GOING TO DO THE

ASSESSMENT? >> YES.

>> OKAY. I AM GOOD WITH THAT. >> THANK YOU, JACKIE. SO, DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT ITEM A? ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FIRE ASSESSMENT? THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE.

>>

MINUTES. >>

SPEAKERS ] >> WE ARE GOING TO CUT THOSE

TIMES IN HALF FOR YOU. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> YOU ARE LITTLE SECOND. THE LAG GOT YOU THERE.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CUTLER. SECOND BY VICE MAYOR ISROW. ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS

ITEM? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL? >> COMMISSIONER CUTLER.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN?

>> YES BUT I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, IT IS NOT THAT I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO, IT IS THE WAY THAT IT IS ASSESSED. I WANT TO

BE VERY CLEAR. >> COMMISSIONER BRIER?

>> YES. >> VICE MAYOR ISROW.

>> YES. >> MAYOR WALKER.

>> YES. ITEM B. >> MOVE.

>> SECOND. >> WILL HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRIER. SECONDED BY -- ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS

ITEM? >> AL INTRO DECK. 7920 84TH AVENUE PARKLAND, FLORIDA. THE RANCH IS. AS FAR AS THE SOLID WASTE ASSESSMENT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO URGE THE COMMISSION TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT WHAT IS WOULD HAVE AT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT AND WHAT IS GOING ON WITH OUR FEES AS IT RELATES TO THE BERGERON CASE YEARS AGO AND THE REMOVAL OF THE DUMP. THE INCINERATOR, AND ALL OF THESE ITEMS THAT ARE GOING ON. THIS IS ONLY GOING TO GET TREMENDOUSLY WORSE. WE NEED TO ADDRESS WASTE MANAGEMENT AND WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY ADDRESS AT THE STATE AND THE STATE ATTORNEY AND REALLY LOOK AT THE CASES OF HOW WE HAVE GOTTEN INTO THIS SITUATION WITH WASTE

MANAGEMENT. >> SO ON SEPTEMBER 18TH FROM 6:00 TO 8:00, THERE IS A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING WITH THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY OF BROWARD COUNTY. I WILL POST IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I WILL MAKE SURE WE DO IT. FROM THE CITY SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THAT MEETING COMING UP. I'M SURE, I KNOW COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN IS ON THAT COMMITTEE . I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF US WILL GO AND SPEAK ON IT BUT IT IS CERTAINLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT AND SPEAK

TO THE WHOLE AUTHORITY. >> I WILL BE IN CHICAGO BUT I WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE SOMEONE COMES TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES SO THAT AT LEAST IT IS BROUGHT TO LIGHT. THERE IS JUST A LOT GOING ON AND WE JUST NEED TO PUT SOME PRESSURE

ON THE STATE. >> 100%.

>> THEY ARE GOING TO VIDEO STREAM THAT MEETING. WE DON'T

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I DON'T KNOW, THREE YEARS? >> I HAVE BEEN ATTENDING SOME COURT AND SOME OTHER CASES -- SOME OTHER THINGS ON THE MATTER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? NO? GOOD? NO, YOU'RE NEXT. OKAY.

WE HAD A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRIER AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN. ROLL CALL.

>> COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER BRIER. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER CUTLER. >> YES. VICE MAYOR ISROW.

>> YES. MAYOR WALKER. >> YES.

>> ITEM C. >> APPROVED.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION TO APPROVE BY VICE MAYOR ISROW. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CUTLER. AND ONE WAS FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING AS THERE ARE

NONE, ROLL CALL? >> COMMISSIONER BRIER.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CUTLER.

>> YES. >> VICE MAYOR ISROW.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN.

>> YES. >> MAYOR WALKER.

>> YES. ITEM B. >> YES.

>> LUKSIK COMMISSIONER HAS SOMETHING TO SAY.

>> A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON THE MILLAGE RATE. FIRST I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THE HARD WORK THEY DO ON THE BUDGET.

BALANCING IT IS NOT AN EASY TASK AND THEY DO IT, DOES WORK.

SHARON DOES A GREAT JOB TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE HIDDEN MONEY CAN BE FOUND SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK AND EFFORT. I DO WANT TO JUST MENTION THAT WE COMPARE OUR MILLAGE AGAINST OTHER CITIES AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KIND OF HIT ME WAS WHEN I LOOKED AT OUR CALF OR, THE CAFER COMPARES HOW TAXING AUTHORITIES THAT TAXES US AS RESIDENTS, HOW WE COMPARE THAT OVER A TEN-YEAR PERIOD. SO WHEN I LOOKED AT THAT FROM 2014 TO 2023 , YOU HAVE GOT THE CITY OF PARKLAND, BROWARD COUNTY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL, SOUTH PARK WATER MANAGEMENT FLORIDA NAVIGATION AND BROWARD HOSPITAL DISTRICT. ALL OF THOSE STARTED AT A SPECIFIC LEVEL AND EVERY ONE OF THEM HAS GONE DOWN OVER THAT TENURE TIMEFRAME ACCEPT THE CITY APARTMENT. SO, IN LOOKING AT THAT, IT THROWS UP AT LEAST A FLAG FOR ME FOR CONVERSATION AND DISCUSSION. AND HOW THOSE OTHER TAXING AUTHORITIES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DECREASE AGAIN BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE THE SAME PROPERTY VALUE. IT IS STILL THE SAME ASSESSMENT METHODOLOGY BUT HOW THOSE HAVE GONE DOWN AND WE HAVE GONE UP.

NOW, AGAIN, TO BE FAIR, SOME OF THEM HAVE GONE DOWN AND UP AT CERTAIN POINTS BUT MOST OF THEM HAVE THE ESCALATED FROM -- JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, THE SCHOOL BOARD. 2014 WITH 7.48 MILLS AND NOW THERE AT 6.426 MILLS. SO IN THEORY, THEY ARE DOING THE SAME. OBVIOUSLY BUDGETING WITH THE SAME COST AND A LOWER MILLAGE RATE. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT

>> MAY ASK YOU A QUESTION? >> YES.

>> ARE THOSE ALL WITHIN THE SAME SCOPE OF SERVICES AND PROVIDERS? DOES THAT MEAN YOU HAVE NEW SCHOOLS COME ON SYSTEM OR LESSON OR, YOU KNOW, MEANING YOU CAN ACTUALLY LOWER THE MILLAGE IF YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING THE TAX?? SO IS IT THAT THE POOL OF PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYING IT HAVE INCREASED THEIR FIVE MAKING A LOWER MILLAGE RATE POSSIBLE OR IS IT THE SAME DENOMINATOR AND IT JUST DECREASED OVER TIME?

>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT. IN OTHER WORDS, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE POPULATION IN 2014 AND THE NUMBER OF HOMES IS, IN COMPARISON, A CERTAIN RATE BUT AT THE SAME POINT IN 2014, OUR POPULATION WAS X AMOUNT. SO I CAN'T REALLY NECESSARILY PUMP AIR COMPARE ONE TO THE OTHER. SO TO YOUR POINT, LET'S SAY THERE WERE , YOU KNOW, 5000 HOMES IN PARKLAND AND THERE WERE 50,000 HOMES IN BROWARD COUNTY . FROM 2013, THERE ARE 11,000 HOMES IN PARKLAND AND 1100 50,000 HOMES IN BROWARD.

TO YOUR POINT, I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, BUT JUST AS A COMPARISON NUMBER, THIS IS PART OF OUR CAFER. SO OBVIOUSLY, COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT PROVIDES THAT

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INFORMATION FOR A REASON. >> BUT DOESN'T ALSO INCLUDE ANY SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS BECAUSE THE SCHOOL BOARD -- HAVEN'T THEY HAD ANY SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS?

>> THERE IS THE SERVICE BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT RATE INCLUDES THE OTHER TAXING AUTHORITY DEBT SERVICE, WHICH

WE DO NOT HAVE. >> RIGHT, BUT IN COMPARISON, THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE DEBT SERVICE COMPARATIVELY

AND WE ARE COMPARING TWO. >> I AM LOOKING AT THIS AS A COMPARISON RATE OF WHAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE PAYING.

>> DON'T YOU THINK THE MORE PROPER COMPARISON IS DISABILITY? I THINK THE SLIDE WE HAVE SEEN, AT LEAST OUR NEIGHBORS OR SURROUNDING CITIES WERE THE LOWEST.

>> NOT NECESSARILY. THIS IS ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT. IT IS NOT NECESSARILY ONE IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS WRONG.

>> I AM NOT SAYING ONE IS RIGHT AND ONE IS WRONG BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF YOU ARE COMPARING US TO A GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY OR DISTRICT SO TO SPEAK, I QUESTION WHETHERTHAT IS AN APPLE TO ORANGES VERSUS APPLE TO APPLES.

>> IF I COULD CHIME IN IN THIS DISCUSSION, I WOULD THINK THAT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, FOR INSTANCE, THEY ARE SPREADING THE SAME COSTS AMONGST MORE PEOPLE AND THAT IS A DIFFERENCE VERSUS THE CITY WHERE WE ARE PROVIDING MORE SERVICES TO PEOPLE AS WE INCREASE HOMES AND RESIDENTS. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE APPLES TO APPLES WITH RESPECT TO THAT, BUT I AM HAPPY

TO LEARN MORE. >> AND TO JORDAN'S POINT, THE SCHOOL ISN'T PROVIDING NEW -- YOU KNOW, WE ARE BUILDING NEW PARKS, UPGRADING OUR SERVICES, UPGRADING ALL OF OUR FACILITIES. THE SCHOOL BOARD IS -- I THINK THAT IS NOT A VERY GOOD COMPARISON. I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO DISPARAGE THE BROWARD COUNTY SCHOOLS, BUT THEY ARE CERTAINLY NOT --

>> I AM SURE THEY HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND INNOVATIONS IN CAPITAL EXPENSES BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS OF THE

SAME ILK. >> AGAIN, I AM JUST COMPARING THE TAXING AUTHORITIES THAT OUR RESIDENTS PAY . AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY OPEN UP THEIR TAX BILL AND THEY SAY, WHAT IS YOUR TOTAL TAX? WE HAVE A SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS. WE HAVE ASSESSMENT FOR FIRE. WE HAVE AN ASSESSMENT FOR STORMWATER. WE HAVE -- OTHER AREAS HAVE ASSESSMENTS FOR NSID OR PINETREE WATER CONTROL. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GETS GRANTS. GET REFERENDUM DOLLARS. WE HAVEN'T GONE OUT FOR REFERENDUM DOLLARS SO, THIS IS NOT INCLUDED IN THERE. I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER CITIES -- CORAL SPRINGS HAS REFERENDUM DOLLARS THAT THEY PAY OFF.

THOSE REFERENDUM DOLLARS OBVIOUSLY DECREASE EVERY YEAR BECAUSE AS THEY ARE PAYING OFF THEIR BONDS, THAT MILLAGE NUMBER IS LOWER. SO THIS IS JUST AS I SAID, A COMPARISON.

ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT . I AM NOT SAYING ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER. ALL I AM SAYING IS AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN A RESIDENT LOOKS AT THEIR TAX BILL AND SAYS, LAST YEAR -- I MEAN, EVEN NSID TOOK OFF ONE OF THEIR ASSESSMENTS SO THEY LOWERED THE RATE. SO THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTS IN MR. PAWLEYS ARE PAYING A LOWER TAX RATE BECAUSE OF BROWARD COUNTY OR SOUTH WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT THAN EVERYBODY ELSE. IT IS JUST THAT NSID WIPED OFF A DECK THAT THEY HAD AND ARE NO LONGER CHARGING THE RESIDENCE. JUST AS I SAID, COMPARISON TO WHERE IT

IS ON THE MILLAGE LEVEL. >> WELL, I THINK IT IS ONLY RIGHT AND THEN TO SHARE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN WHICH IS BEING ABLE TO SEE THE KEEP OUR MILLAGE RATE STAGNANT OVER MULTIPLE YEARS. I KNOW YEARS PRIOR, WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP IT CONSISTENTLY AND IT IS ONLY INCREASED AS WE CONTINUE TO REACH A BUILDOUT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T HAVE A COMMERCIAL BASE THAT PROVIDES MUCH OF A SUBSIDY TO THE RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS ALL CAPTIVE BY THE 3% HOMESTEAD. SO I JUST THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT . WHILE I GET YOUR POINT, BOB, I DON'T WANT IT TO UNDERMINE AND TAKE AWAY FROM THE HARD WORK THAT THE CITY AND PRIOR COMMISSIONS AND EVEN OURS HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO TO PROVIDE REALLY HIGH-LEVEL SERVICE AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE COME TO LOVE ABOUT PARKLAND AND DO IT IN A WAY THAT KEEPS US, AS I WAS SAYING EARLIER, ONE OF THE LOWEST MILLAGE RATE AT LEAST IN THE ADJACENT CITIES IN BROWARD.

>> LISTEN, WESTON HAS A LOWER MILLAGE RATE. BUT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THEY CHARGE THROUGH THEIR CDC OR WHAT IS IT -- CDD? I MEAN, WHEN WESTON WAS BUILT, THAT IS WHAT THEY WERE CHARGING. SOMEBODY CAN CLAIM THAT IS THE LOWEST MILLAGE RATE IN THE COUNTY BUT RESIDENTS ARE STILL PAYING MILLAGE FUELS.

THIS ISOF WHAT WE GET IN OUR CAPRA AND I'M JUST TRYING TO ANALYZE IT AND I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU IS

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0.5500 MILLS. >> BUT BOB, I THINK THAT IN ORDER TO DO THE ANALYSIS THAT YOU WANT TO DO, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DIVE INTO EACH ONE OF THOSE AND SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THEIR WORLDS TO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DID THAT. BY THE SAME TOKEN, PARKLAND IS WORKING VERY HARD . THE MILLAGE COMES UP TO THE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON TO BRING A COMMERCIAL ENTITY INTO OUR CITY THAT WILL ENABLE US TO ONCE AGAIN REVIEW THE MILLAGE RATES AND PERHAPS EVEN LOWER IT THEN WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW BUT I THINK JORDAN'S POINT THAT WE HAVE MANAGED TO KEEP IT AT A LEVEL WE HAVE KEPT IT AT FOR A GREAT PERIOD OF TIME AND CONTINUE TO HAVE THE HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICES THAT WE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN, I THINK WE HAVE GOT A BALANCED BUDGET. I THINK WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS REALLY THE RIGHT WAY TO DO WHAT THEY NEED

TO DO FOR THE CITY. >> ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS ARE RAISING THEIR MILLAGE RATE. EVERY ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS ARE

RAISING THE MILLAGE RATE. >> I THINK FROM HISTORICAL STANDPOINT AND I DON'T WANT TO STEAL GUNS THEREUNDER BUT IN MANY YEARS PASSED, THE CITY HAS PROVIDED LESS SERVICES BECAUSE IT WAS A SORT OF A SMALLER ENTITY. IT WAS A SMALLER CITY.

LESS RESIDENCE. AND AS WE HAVE GROWN, I THINK THE SERVICES AND THE USE AND MONIES THAT NEEDED TO NOT ONLY KEEP UP OUR FACILITIES BUT IMPROVE THEM, OUR PARKS, ET CETERA, HAVE GROWN AS WELL. I TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN THE FACT THAT WHILE OTHERS ARE RAISING THEIR, WE ARE KEEPING OUR CYSTECTOMY. I DON'T WANT TO GET IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE THIS PENDULUM THAT SWINGS BACK ONE DAY WAIT AND SWING BACK THE OTHER. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER DAY SPEAKING ABOUT A POTENTIAL DEFICIT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ROLLBACK IN THE PRIOR COMMISSION. SO THOSE WOULD BE MY CONCERNS AS WELL.

>> POINTING OUT THAT THIS IS ANOTHER WAY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND MAY HAVE TO TAKE A MORE IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE WHY, YOU KNOW, ONE MILLAGE RATE IS LOWER THAN ANOTHER.

>> THAT IS ALL I SAID. NOT SITTING HERE IN DEBATING OR ARGUING BUT, AGAIN, BROADCASTING INFORMATION. THAT

IS ALL. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?

>> ALL THE MILLAGE? NO. I HAVE ONE ON BUDGET WHEN WE GET TO

THAT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DID WE

HAVE A MOTION? >> YEAH.

>>

>> I SECOND. >> OH, BOB SECONDED. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC ON THE MILLAGE RATE?

>> MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. ANTHONY TITONE . MY WIFE, IRENA, WE ARE FROM MEADOW RUN. I HAVE BEEN A LONG AROUND TIME AND MOVE INTO BRIAR COUNTY IN 1970 AND MOVE UP THIS WAY 1976 AND I MUST SAY THAT THE HISTORY OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND IS UNIQUE . IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CITY THAT HAD TREMENDOUS PROPERTIES , TREMENDOUS LOTS, TREMENDOUS LIFESTYLE AND ONE OF THE OTHER THING THAT IT ALWAYS HAD WAS LOW TAXES . THAT HAS BEEN ALWAYS A HISTORY OF THIS CITY.

THAT ALL CHANGED BACK IN 2018. I WAS AT THAT MEETING WENT BY A 3-2 VOTE. THERE WAS A BIG CHANGE. THERE WAS A 20% INCREASE. WHEN YOU COMPARE THE FIRE ASSESSMENT WAS INCREASED, THE MILLAGE RATE WAS INCREASED AND THE FRANCHISE FEE FOR FPNL WAS INCORPORATED. I EMPHASIZED THAT LAST ONE BECAUSE I LIVED IN CORAL SPRINGS FOR A WHILE AND I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE OTHER CITIES BECAUSE I REPRESENTED SOME OF THEM.

PARKLAND DIDN'T HAVE A FRANCHISE FEE. AND I ALWAYS WONDERED WHY. AND I ALWAYS SAID TO MYSELF, BOY, THAT IS A GREAT CITY TO LIVE IN BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO TAKE MONEY FROM THE PEOPLE IN THAT CITY JUST FOR HAVING LOGICAL FACILITIES .

I THINK IT IS THE MOST UNFAIR TAX THERE IS. THIS CITY IS COLLECTING $2.5 MILLION ON THAT FRANCHISE FEE THAT IT'S NEVER HAD BEFORE AND WHEN IT WAS PASSED BACK IN 2018, THERE WAS

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SO THE ONLY WAY TO GIVE US RELIEF FROM THE TAXES IS TO REDUCE THE MILLAGE AND THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS TO GET RID OF THE FRANCHISE FEE FOR FPNL. I AM SURE YOU PEOPLE CAN CUT OUT THAT $2.5 MILLION AND GIVE BACK TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY SOME OF THAT TAX. IT WILL DISAPPEAR FROM THEIR BILLS.

MOST OF THEM DO NOT EVEN KNOW IT IS THERE. I LOOK AT IT EVERY MONTH. IT IS $20 EVERY MONTH. SO, I THINK SOMETHING CAN BE DONE AND NOTHING IS BEING DONE AND I HAVE NO CRITICISM OF HOW THE CITY IS BEING RUN. I MEAN, I KNOW YOU HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF CHANGES THAT YOU ARE GOING ABOUT. I SEE A FIRE STATION, PARKS, AND WHATEVER. WE WILL SLOW IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. GIVE A LITTLE BACK TO THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY. MAKE IT EASY FOR THEM. BECAUSE WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING AT EVERY DAY. AUTO INSURANCE. RADICALLY DOUBLING. PROPERTY HOMEOWNERS POLICIES DOUBLING AND TRIPLING . THIS WILL HELP THEM AND THIS COUNCIL CAN DO IT FOR THEM AND THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING YOU TO DO. AT THE VERY LEAST, ELIMINATE THAT FPNL FRANCHISE FEE.

>> THANK YOU. >> FRANCHISE FEE. GOT IT.

>> SIR, CAN YOU ADDRESS THE REASON WHY OR -- I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ADDRESS. WE ARE A UNIQUE CITY AND THAT WE HAVE 11 SROS AT OUR SCHOOLS. SO, WE HAVE THREE TO 19 AT OUR HIGH SCHOOL AND OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL AND TWO AT EACH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THEN A SERGEANT AND THAT WAS THE INTENT AS A FRANCHISE FEE WAS TO COVER THE COSTS OF THE SROS.

>> BY STATE STATUTE, WE ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE SRO.

>> THEY HAVE METAL DETECTORS, THEY HAVE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS

SINCE THEN. >> THEY JUST GOT METAL DETECTORS AT MST AND ONLY AT MST.

>> TO THAT POINT, I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, AFTER FEBRUARY 14TH AND THERE WERE SOME OF US THAT WERE ON HERE ON THE DAY. SOME OF US WORK, AND AS A COMMISSION AND AS A CITY, WE TOOK A HARD LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO PROTECT CHILDREN AND WE DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO PUT SROS IN OUR SCHOOLS AND WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PEOPLE IN OUR ELEMENTARY, THREE IN OUR MIDDLE AND THREE IN OUR HIGH SCHOOL. AND WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD THAT WAY. THE QUESTION WAS HOW TO FUND IT BECAUSE, AGAIN, ALTHOUGH -- THAT TIME IT WAS NOT AN OBLIGATION OF OUR COUNTY SCHOOLS TO PAY ANYTHING. WE WERE GETTING PAID A REINFORCEMENT OF $48,000 FOR A COST OF $140,000. SO WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY IT. AND WE DECIDED THAT THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT WAS TO YOUR MARKET WITH AN FPNL FEE. THIS WAY, WE KNEW IT WAS CONSISTENT, WHAT THE MONEY WAS. WE FOUGHT THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO OBVIOUSLY BOOST UP THAT REIMBURSEMENT FEE. WE ARE NOW I THINK I WOULD HUNDRED $13,000. IS THAT CORRECT, CHRIS? SOMETHING LIKE THAT? GIVE OR TAKE A FEW DOLLARS. AGAIN, LOOKING TO INCREASE IT. BUT OUR COSTS ARE $200,000 FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR AN SRO. SO WE ARE STILL IN THE WHOLE BUT WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT SAFETY AND

SECURITY. >>

>> THANK YOU. >>

>> THIS IS NOT A BACK-AND-FORTH BUT THANK YOU. IF I CAN JUST MAKE ONE COMIC COMMISSIONERS. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US DISAGREE WITH ALWAYS WANTING TO TRY TO KEEP COSTS, EXPENSES, TAXES LOW. DON'T FORGET, WE LIVE IN THE CITY AS WELL, RIGHT? SO WE

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NOT THE COUNTRY, RIGHT? >>

>> WELL, YOU CAN'T TAKE YOUR HOME AND PUT IT IN ANY OTHER CITY AND YOU WILL BE PAYING HIGHER TAXES THAN YOU WOULD IN

THE CITY OF PARKLAND BUT -- >>

>> EVERY YEAR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, BUT EVERY YEAR WE LOOK AT THIS , WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS, WE HAVE OUR MILLAGE WE GO THROUGH OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS. 83% OF OUR HOMES ARE HOMESTEADS. WHICH MEANS WE GET A 3% MAX IN THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES. OUR COSTS ARE MORE THAN 3% . SO, ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO IS LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO GENERATE REVENUE SO WE CAN KEEP OUR MILLAGE RATE THE SAME. AND WE HAVE DONE THAT YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AND WHILE I CAN APPRECIATE, AS VICE MAYOR ISROW SAID, THE DESIRE TO NOT PAY HIGHER TAXES, THE REASON YOUR PROPERTY VALUES CONTINUE TO GO UP YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR IS BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND AND WE PROVIDE BETTER SERVICES THAN ANY OTHER CITY IN BROWARD

COUNTY. SO WITH THAT -- >> I JUST HAVE ONE LAST POINT BECAUSE EVEN SAID CAR INSURANCE, INSURANCE IS GOING UP. EVERYTHING IS GOING UP. THAT IS JUST THE NATURE OF INFLATION, THE NATURE OF YEAR-OVER-YEAR. SO EVEN IF WE WANTED TO KEEP THINGS STAGNANT, THE COST OF SERVICES, THE COST OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY DOES WHETHER IT IS LABOR, RESOURCES, IT IS GOING UP. I WISH WE COULD PRESS THE PAUSE BUTTON ON THE ECONOMY AND JUST SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? PARKLAND WANTS TO JUST KEEP THINGS HERE. WE CAN'T. SO IT IS NOT TO SAY THAT WE DON'T LOOK AT IT. THIS IS ALL SOMETHING WE STRIVE TO WORK VERY HARD EVERY YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STILL KEEP RESIDENTS SATISFIED WITH YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE, SAFETY, HEALTH WHILE ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET, WHICH IS NOT AN EASY TASK WHILE STILL KEEPING THE MILLAGE RATE THE

SAME. >> NANCY, DO WE HAVE INSURANCE

AS A CITY? >> OF COURSE WE DO. HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE, PROPERTY INSURANCE AND HEALTH AND LIABILITY

INSURANCE. >> HAS OUR INSURANCE VALUE INCREASE? WE ALL HAVE THE SAME PAIN INCLUDED THE CITY OF PARKLAND AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND WOULD YOU LOOK AT IT AND WE WORKED VERY HARD TO KEEP OUR MILLAGE RATE THE SAME. IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM ? SEEING THAT THERE IS NONE, ROLL CALL.

>> COMMISSIONER CUTLER. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN. >> NO.

>> COMMISSIONER BRIER. >> YES.

>> VICE MAYOR ISROW. >> YES.

>> MAYOR WALKER. >> YES. PLEASE SHOW PASSES 4-1.

ITEM E. THE BUDGET. YOU SAID YOU HAVE COMMENTS?

>> HAVE COMMENTS ON THE BUDGET. OKAY. SO, I TOOK A LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND AGAIN, THE WAY THAT OUR BUDGET WORKS AND UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, YOU HAVE TO

HAVE A ZERO BALANCE BUDGET. >> THAT IS A GOOD THING.

>> GOOD AND BAD. >> WE HISTORICALLY HAVE IT WHERE WE END UP WHERE WE UNDERESTIMATE OUR REVENUES AND WE OVERESTIMATE OUR EXPENDITURES, SO, AGAIN, UTILIZATION OF ITS MANAGERS COULD BE AT 80/85%. ESTIMATED REVENUES AGAIN COULD EXCEED THAT BUDGET BECAUSE HISTORICALLY, IT IS IN THE BUDGET BOOK. I MEAN, THERE ARE ITEMS WHEN YOU LOOK AT REVENUES LOOKING HERE ON PAGE 27 OF THE BUDGET BOOK UNDER MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES , YOU KNOW, OUR 2024 ADOPTED BUDGET IS 1.1 MILLION AND OUR PROJECTED IS 3.25 OR $3.2 MILLION. SO THERE IS REALLY A DISPARITY AND OBVIOUSLY AGAIN, IT IS A PROCESS AND IT IS A WAY WE DO IT AND I GET IT. SO THERE IS CLEARLY OBVIOUSLY SURPLUS THAT IS IN THERE. I KNOW THAT THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE ARE GOING TO GET $19.5 MILLION FOR THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY. AGAIN WHAT I'M LOOKING AT AND OBVIOUSLY AS WE KNOW COSTS HAVE INCREASED, INSURANCE HAS INCREASED. ONE OF THE SPEAKERS OR A SPEAKER HAD MENTIONED AND OBVIOUSLY OTHER RESIDENTS, I SEE SOME ODDS IN THE AUDIENCE ARE SEEING THE SAME PAIN BUT I

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>> I CAN CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT AND ONE WHO IS A PROPONENT RIGHT FROM THE ONSET TO PURCHASE THE HERON BAY PROPERTY KNOWING THAT THE CITY WOULD GARNER UP A PROPHET , I CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING . AND THE REASON WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE THAT PURCHASE WITHOUT GOING BACK TO THE RESIDENCE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL TAX DOLLARS WAS BECAUSE OF THE CONSERVATIVE AND GOOD STEWARDSHIP OF OUR FINANCES . SO, THE WAY NANCY HAS DONE PREVIOUSLY AND CONTINUES TO DO AND CHRIS DOES IN CONTROLLING OUR FINANCES , I HAVE 100% BELIEF IN WHAT THEY ARE DOING . I HAD ALWAYS SAID, AGAIN, FROM THE ONSET, ONE WHO WAS A PROPONENT TO BUY IT KNOWING WE WOULD NOT ONLY BE ABLE TO CONTROL OUR DESTINY BUT THE CITY WOULD MAKE ADDITIONAL MONIES AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT AS AN COMMISSION WAS FINDING ALTERNATE MEANS TO GENERATE REVENUE BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO PROBLEMS. ONE, WE HAVE 83% OF OUR HOMES THAT ARE HOMESTEADED WHICH COULD NOT KEEP UP WITH THE COST INCREASES BECAUSE OUR COST INCREASES ARE ROUGHLY 5 TO 6% PER YEAR. WHEN WE ARE IN FULL BUILDOUT, WE WON'T BE GENERATING 5.6% PER YEAR SO, WE WILL BE IN A DEFICIT AT SOME POINT. WE HAVE BEEN LUCKY BECAUSE OF THE CONTINUED -- CONTINUAL BUILDING THAT WE HAD THOSE EXTRA FUNDS AND DURING THE HERON BAY PROCESS, I WAS VERY CLEAR THAT MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE IF WE WERE ABLE TO DIVERSIFY OUR TAX BASE AND GENERATE THE REVENUE THAT WE NEED TO GENERATE. BUT TO MOVE BEFORE THE MONEY IS IN OUR COFFERS, BEFORE THE PROJECT IS FINISHED IS NOT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE IN MY OPINION. I WOULD LOVE TO LOWER TAXES SO I CAN PAY LESS, BUT UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT EXACTLY IS HAPPENING, IT IS NOT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE KNOWING THAT ON THE HORIZON, WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A DEFICIT. WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE -- WELL, I KNOW FOR SURE AND I HAVE KNOWN FOR SURE RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING, BUT WE ALL DID NOT HOP ON BOARD AND WANT TO PURCHASE THE HERON BAY PROPERTY BECAUSE WE WEREN'T SURE. SO, WE STILL NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS, OPTIMISTICALLY CAUTIOUS. I AM A LITTLE MORE OPTIMISTIC THAN CAUTIOUS, BUT WE NEED TO SEE WHERE WE END UP WITH THAT. WE HAVE WEDGE PRESERVE PARK WHICH IS OVER BUDGET . WE NEED TO FINISH THAT BECAUSE WE DID GET GRANT DOLLARS. SO WE ARE IN A TIMELINE TO GET THAT FINISHED.

BECAUSE WE DO GO OUT AND TRY TO GET GRANT AND FUNDING FROM THE STATE. WE WERE AWARDED $1.5 MILLION TO OFFSET THE COSTS IN THE WEDGE PRESERVE PARK BUT WE ARE IN A TIMELINE TO FINISH THAT PROJECT OTHERWISE, THOSE FUNDS COULD BE WITHDRAWN AND I KNOW YOU DID NOT MEAN IT THAT WAY BUT TO SAY TO OTHER RESIDENTS DIDN'T GET SOMETHING TO ME IS NOT EXACTLY TRUE.

BECAUSE MAYBE THE RESIDENCE IN THE RANCHES OR PINETREE GET DOLLARS TO HELP OFFSET COSTS . BUT EVERY RESIDENT IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND IS GETTING SOMETHING AND GETTING A LOT.

AND WHAT THE RESIDENCE CAN DO TO HELP THE RANCHES, WHAT THE RESIDENCE CAN DO TO HELP THE PINETREE, THAT IS WHAT CITIES DO. THEY WORK TOGETHER , THEY COMPROMISE, AND THEY HELP ONE ANOTHER. DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN PAY FOR ALL OF THE RANCHES WERE ALL OF THE PINETREE BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY AND HELP ONE ANOTHER , BUT AGAIN, I KNOW YOU DID NOT

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JOB. >> WELL SAID. VERY WELL SAID.

CAN'T BEAT THAT BUT I HAVE A COUPLE POINTS TO ADD. BOB, YOU SAID WE ARE BIT GUARANTEED TO MAKE A PROFIT OFF OF HERON BAY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT GUARANTEE JUST YET BECAUSE I SEE THAT NOT BECAUSE I AM OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY OR THE MARKETABILITY OF IT, BUT WE HAVEN'T EVEN DECIDED ULTIMATELY IF THE END RESULT IS GOING TO BE AND I KNOW WE HAVE SPOKEN A LOT ABOUT LAND BANKING AND THE IDEA THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO ALREADY AMEND OUR MIND TO GUARANTEEING A PROFIT WHEN THERE MAY BE A DECISION THAT SAYS MAYBE WE WANT TO HOLD BACK SOME PORTION OF THE LAND , NOT UTILIZE ALL OF IT SO WE HAVE POTENTIAL USE FOR SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE. WE TALKED ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE A PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. SO, BY HAVING THE FISCAL CONSERVATIVE APPROACH I THINK IT GIVES US THAT POSSIBILITY BUT MORE THAN THAT, -- LET'S BE HONEST WITH OURSELVES. $1 MILLION. WHILE IT SOUNDS A GREAT CONCEPT AND WHILE I AM ALL IN FAVOR OF WANTING TO REDUCE TAXES, THAT IS LESS THAN $30 FOR EACH PERSON IN PARKLAND. $1 MILLION IN THE CITIES HANDS CAN ADD MUCH MORE VALUE TO RESIDENTS ON SCALE THEN I BELIEVE $30 PER PER PERSON. AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT IF WE LOWERED OUR MILLAGE RATE, WHAT THAT IS NOW IS SET A NEW BENCHMARK. A NEW BASELINE WHICH MEANS IT IS HARDER TO BALANCE THE BUDGET THE FOLLOWING YEAR IF WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP OUR MILLAGE RATE THE SAME. I THINK WE ALL CAN AGREE EXPENSES ARE GOING TO GO UP, COSTS ARE GOING TO GO UP, BUT TO ME, TO REDUCE IT FOR THE SAKE OF GIVING BACK $1 MILLION SEEMS CEREMONIAL RATHER THAN STRATEGIC AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS PROBABLY BE MORE THINKING ABOUT HOW CAN WE UTILIZE THAT $1 MILLION IN THE FUTURE? WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE IDEA OF THE SCHOOL BOARD POTENTIALLY SELLING PROPERTY THAT WE ARE BUYING FOR. I THINK WE WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN BUYING IT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE END OF LOXAHATCHEE ROAD, A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE SUCCESSFULLY WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE FROM A DEVELOPER TO ESSENTIALLY DEED OVER FOR US FOR WHATEVER OUR USE IS. WE HAVEN'T EVEN DETERMINED THAT BUT IT IS GOING TO COST SOMETHING. BUT THE ABILITY FOR OUR STAFF AND OUR COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND BY A CONCERN IN OUR COMMUNITY.

A SAFETY CONCERN ABOUT STUDENTS AND THE POTENTIAL THREAT OF A CROSSWALK AND A LACK OF A CROSSWALK GUARD AND TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO COMMIT $30,000 TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. THAT IS WHAT BEING CONSERVATIVE AND BEING ABLE TO MANAGE OUR FINANCES THAT WE HAVE ALLOWS US TO DO. TO ADDRESS THINGS THAT PROVIDE FOR REAL VALUE TO THE RESIDENCE IN THE CITY AS A WHOLE AS OPPOSED TO ME A SYMBOLIC GESTURE THAT WELL SOUNDS GOOD IN THEORY I THINK ACTUALLY HAS INVERSE EFFECT OF BENEFITING THE COMMUNITY AT

LARGE. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANY

BUDDY HAVE A MOTION? >> I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND I CAN, LIKE I SAID, I APPRECIATE IT. WHEN I GO BACK AND LOOK AT MY COMMUNITY, WHEN I ADOPTED THEIR STUDIES THEIR DETERMINATION TO SEE IF THERE IS A DETERMINATION THAT THE NOISE HAD ON LUCKY #WROTE. IT EXCEEDED THAT THRESHOLD. WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING SOMETHING IN WHETHER IT BE SOUND WALLS OR POSSIBLE IMPACT WINDOWS OR WHATEVER. NOW, GRANTED THAT IT IS ONLY A SMALL GROUP OF RESIDENTS THAT BORDER THAT AREA

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>> AGAIN, I GO BACK TO INSTEAD OF LOOKING SELFISHLY AT INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES, WE LOOK AT THE WHOLE. SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION, WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY REDONE TERRAMAR PARK AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO IMPROVE TERRAMAR PARK AND WE ARE DOING THAT WITHIN WITHOUT RAISING THE MILLAGE RATE AND BY IMPROVING OUR AMENITIES , INCREASES PROPERTY VALUES. SO, BY US DOING OUR JOB AS A COMMISSION AND ASKED CITY STAFF , THEY ALL BENEFITED BY INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES.

EVERYONE IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND -- AND I AM NOT ASKING FOR THANKS BECAUSE IT IS CITY STAFF WHO DOES ALL OF THE WORK.

BUT EVERY RESIDENT IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND SHOULD APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THEIR PROPERTY VALUES HAVE GONE UP 40, 50, 60%. EVERY RESIDENT IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND HAS BENEFITED FROM THAT FACT AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE CONTINUE YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR TO FIND WAYS TO IMPROVE A PARK, A ROAD, A ROUNDABOUT -- WHATEVER YOU CAN THINK OF, WE HAVE WORKED ON.

AND WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT. AND THOSE -- VICE MAYOR MADE A PERFECT POINT. THAT MILLION DOLLARS IS MUCH BETTER SPENT BY US INCREASING YOUR PROPERTY VALUES BECAUSE I CAN ASSURE YOU, EVERYONE HAS RECEIVED MUCH MORE THAN $30 A YEAR IN THE INCREASE OF THEIR PROPERTY VALUES.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? YOU CAN SPEAK ON THE BUDGET. YEAH.

NOW, YOU CAN COME BACK UP HERE

>> AGREE WITH YOU COMMISSIONER. IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE BACK A LITTLE BIT. AND THIS MIGHT BE OUR LAST OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS. USING THE ANALOGY THAT YOU USED ABOUT PROPERTIES GOING UP, IT IS ALL SUPPLY AND DEMAND . THE CITY OF PARKLAND IS AN EXCELLENT CITY BUT THEY ARE ALSO PEOPLE LEAVING THE CITY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE ANYMORE. AND THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT I SAID BEFORE ABOUT PROPERTY INSURANCE.

>> PROPERTY VALUES HAVE OUTPACED THE REST OF --

>> THE PEOPLE THAT MOVE HERE DID NOT ANTICIPATE PAYING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR HOMEOWNERS POLICIES AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. IT IS NOT A LOT BUT IT SHOWS GOOD FAITH AND GOOD INTENT TO HELP YOUR RESIDENCE. DON'T PASS UP THIS OPPORTUNITY.

>> AND AGAIN, I THINK I WAS VERY CLEAR IN MY POSITION. ONCE WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING , BECAUSE WE DID PUT OUT A LOT OF MONEY TO BUY HERON BAY AND WE HAVE WORKED HARD TO FIND OTHER MEANS OF GENERATING REVENUE -- THERE IS RISK IN DOING WHAT MISSION ARE HARRISON SUGGESTED.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. ANYONE ELSE? SEEING AS THERE IS NONE, WITH A MOTION TO APPROVE BY VICE MAYOR

>> COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN. ISROW AND SECONDED BY

COMMISSIONER CUTLER. >> NO. COMMISSIONER BRIER .

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CUTLER.

[5. Approval of Minutes]

>> YES. >> APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> ALL IN FAVOR?

>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? SHOW PASSES

[6. Comments from the Public on Non-Agenda Items]

I DO WANT TO START OFF, I HAVE MADE SOME NOTES . I'M GOING TO DO THE BEST I CAN TO NOT READ BUT I WANTED TO START THINGS

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CHIEF, IF YOU COULD COME DOWN TO THE PODIUM PLEASE. ON MONDAY OF THIS WEEK, THERE WAS A FIRE IN THE RANCHES. A LOT HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT IT IN PERSON AS WELL AS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. NOT ALL OF IT IS TRUE. SO, HERE ARE THE FACTS. AT 4:54 A.M., A 911 CALL WAS RECEIVED REGARDING A BARN AND A CONNECTED GUESTHOUSE BEING ON FIRE AND I WOULD LIKE TO THINK MAXINE FOR MAKING THAT CALL. SHE IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.

>> ARRIVED ON THE SCENE. BY 5:07, A CALL WAS MADE BY SUPERVISOR ON SITE THAT THIS WOULD BECOME A DEFENSIVE APPROACH. MEANING, THIS WAS PRIMARILY AN OPERATION TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF THE FIRE . TWO KEY FACTORS WENT INTO THIS DECISION. THE FIRST INITIAL ARRIVING UNIT LEARNED BETH BOTH THE GUEST HOUSE AND BARN WERE BOTH UNOCCUPIED. THE SECOND WAS THE ADVANCED STAGE OF THE FIRE. IF THIS WAS AN OCCUPIED STRUCTURE, WHETHER A HOUSE, GUEST BARN, GUESTHOUSE OR ANY OTHER OCCUPIED STRUCTURE, THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN A DEFENSIVE MANNER. REGARDLESS OF THE STATE OF THE FIRE. NOT ONLY WERE THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL UNITS SUMMONED BUT THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN AN ADDITIONAL ALARM FIRE MEANING COCONUT CREEK, TAMARAC, MARGUERITE, CORAL SPRINGS WOULD HAVE COME TO HELP ASSIST IN PUTTING THE FIRE OUT. MORE IMPORTANTLY, ENSURING THAT ANY LIVES, WHETHER IT IS PEOPLE, RESIDENTS, ANIMALS, WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT WOULD HAVE BECOME OBVIOUSLY PRIORITY NUMBER ONE. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT FIGHTING A FIRE OF AN OCCUPIED BUILDING IN WHICH PEOPLE ARE IN DANGER REQUIRES URGENCY AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. IT IS ALSO EXPONENTIALLY MORE DANGEROUS FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS. FIREFIGHTERS PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE AND RUN INTO BURNING BUILDINGS WHEN THEY KNOW PEOPLE ARE IN DANGER. THAT IS WAY MORE DANGEROUS THAN THE DEFENSIVE POSTURE OF ENSURING THE FIRE DOES NOT SPREAD. IN THIS CASE, THE CALL WAS MADE TO ENSURE THE FIRE WOULD NOT SPREAD. THAT INCLUDED MAKING SURE NOTHING SPREAD TO THE HOUSE, WHICH WAS NEARBY. ENSURING BURNING EMBERS DID NOT BLOW TO THE OTHER STRUCTURES OR VEGETATION. ENSURING NEARBY TREES DID NOT CATCH FIRE AND CERTAINLY TO ENSURE NOTHING WOULD ENDANGER OTHER STRUCTURES OR HOMES. THE CORAL SPRINGS PARKLAND FIRE DEPARTMENT , WHICH IS A LEADING WORLD-CLASS ORGANIZATION HAS A PLAN ON HOW TO COMBAT FIRES IN THE RANCHES SPECIFICALLY. THAT STRATEGY WAS IMPLEMENTED AND FOLLOWED AS PLANNED. WE ARE GRATEFUL NO ONE WAS IN THE BUILDING . WE ARE GRATEFUL NO RESIDENTS WERE INJURED . WE ARE GRATEFUL NO ANIMALS WERE INJURED. FIVE FIREFIGHTERS HAD TO SHOO AWAY SOME CHICKENS AND THEY EVEN ADMINISTERED OXYGEN TO A RABBIT. WHICH I JUST LEARNED TODAY. WE ARE ALSO GRATEFUL TO MAXINE FOR ALERTING CORAL SPRINGS-PARKLAND FIRE DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE THIS DID NOT GET WORSE. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN A TERRIBLE TRAGEDY.

DESPITE THE DEFENSIVE NATURE OF THE RESPONSE, ONE FIREFIGHTER WAS TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL FOR HEAT EXHAUSTION. HE WAS SOON RELEASED AND HE IS DOING FINE. WHAT FIREFIGHTERS DO IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS UNDER THE BEST CONDITIONS. THE HEAT AND HUMIDITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA, EVEN AT 5:00 A.M. DOES NOT MAKE IT EASY. SO WE ARE GREAT GRATEFUL TO THE CORAL SPRINGS-PARKLAND FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OF COURSE TO THE PARKLAND BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO RISK THEIR SAFETY TO ENJOY HOURS. I ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF WATER. SOME RESIDENTS HAVE SAID, THERE WASN'T ENOUGH WATER OR FIREFIGHTERS WERE TRYING TO PUT OUT THE FIRE. AS I SAID, THERE IS A PLAN TO FIGHT FIRES IN THE RANCHES AND IT WAS CARRIED OUT. FIRST ARRIVING UNITS BEGAN PUMPING WATER FROM THE FIRE ENGINES

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FIREFIGHTERS PUMPED MORE THAN 100,000 GALLONS OF WATER FROM THAT SMALL EIGHT LAKE . THAT AMOUNT DID NOT MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE TO THAT WATER SOURCE SO THANKFULLY, IN THE RANCHES, THERE ARE MANY WATER SOURCES THAT THEY CAN USE.

FIREFIGHTERS, BY WAY OF WATER SUPPLY OFFICER WORKED OFF A WATER SOURCE MAP THAT HAS PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED ALL OF THE WATER SOURCES IN THE RANCHES. THE CITY ALSO HAS A FIRE TENDER TRUCK THAT HOLD 3000 GALLONS. REMEMBER, WE PUMPED X MAC NOT WE, I WASN'T THERE. THE CORAL SPRINGS FIRE DEPARTMENT PUMPED 1000 GALLONS . THE FIRE TENDER TRUCK WHICH HOLDS 3000 GALLONS OF WATER AND CAN BE USED AS A WATER SOURCE -- THE TENDER WAS STAGED AT THE END OF THE EQUESTRIAN CENTER IN CASE IT WAS NEEDED BUT ULTIMATELY, IT WAS NOT DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO GET THE WATER SOURCE AT THE LAKE. DRAWING WATER FROM THE TENDER IS DIFFERENT THAN DRAWING WATER AT THE LAKE AND OBVIOUSLY, THE LAKE WAS MORE THAN SUFFICIENT FOR THAT FIRE. THE CORAL SPRINGS PARKLAND FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS SHARED WITH US , EVEN IF FIRE HYDRANTS WERE PRESENT IN THE AREA IT STILL WOULD HAVE BEEN A DEFENSIVE APPROACH AND THE OUTCOME WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SAME. KEEP IN MIND, IF YOU HAVE FIRE HYDRANTS, THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS IN FRONT OF EVERY HOME. SO, THE SMALL LAKE FROM WHICH THE FIREFIGHTERS DREW MORE THAN 100,000 GALLONS OF WATER MAY HAVE BEEN THE MOST LOGICAL AND CLOSEST WATER SOURCE EVEN IF THERE WERE NEW FIRE HYDRANTS IN THE AREA. THOSE ARE THE FACTS.

AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY, EVERYONE IS GOING TO HAVE THEIR OWN OPINION BUT FOR ME, IT IS IMPORTANT AND FOR US AS A COMMISSION THAT WE ALWAYS WORK AND MAKE ALL OF OUR DECISIONS BASED ON FACT. I WOULD REGARD THIS FIRE AS A TRAGEDY, EVEN THOUGH NO ONE WAS KILLED OR SERIOUSLY INJURED. TO ME, THIS IS STILL A TRAGEDY.

ANYONE WHO LOSES ANY PART OF THEIR PROPERTY AND EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, ANYONE WHO THEN HAS FEAR GOING FORWARD THAT THEY ARE IN ANY SORT OF HARMS WAY IS SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY. I AM, HOWEVER, COMFORTABLE SEEING SOMETHING LIKE THIS , TAKING A DEEP BREATH, TAKING A STEP BACK, AND ASKING , ARE WE ABSOLUTELY DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN. AND TO THAT END, WE HAVE CHOSEN TO HOLD A WORKSHOP ON THE SUBJECT OF FIRE HYDRANTS ON OCTOBER 16TH AT 6:00 P.M. . IT CANNOT HURT AND IT IS EXTREMELY PRUDENT OF US TO ASK QUESTIONS AND HAVE A CONVERSATION. BECAUSE, MIND YOU, WITH THE SUNSHINE LAW, WE CAN'T HAVE CONVERSATIONS AMONGST OURSELVES UNLESS WE ARE AT THESE MEETINGS OR WORKSHOPS. SO, WHILE I MIGHT HAVE SOME OPINIONS AND BOB MIGHT HAVE SOME AND KEN MIGHT HAVE SOME, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THOSE AND WE CAN'T HAVE CONVERSATIONS AMONGST OURSELVES UNLESS WE ARE IN THIS TYPE OF SETTING OR WORKSHOP. SO, WE INVITE EVERYONE AND ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COME AND LISTEN TO THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE WORKSHOP. OBVIOUSLY, IT IS A CONVERSATION WITH US AS A COMMISSION. STAFF, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, PSO . AGAIN, THAT IS ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 16TH AT 6:00 P.M. HERE IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS. DEPUTY CHIEF MOLLY'S OR, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THAT WAS A GREAT SUMMARY OF THE EVENTS. SORRY TO TURN MY BACK ON YOU FOLKS, BUT WE ARE VERY PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION AND SAFETY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GOES INTO DECISIONS WHEN WE GO AND PULL UP TO A FIRE LIKE THAT. HAD THERE BEEN A VICTIM INSIDE THE WATER SUPPLY ISSUE WOULD'VE BEEN HANDLED DIFFERENTLY. HERE IS WHY, WE WOULD HAVE RATIONED THE WATER THAT WE USE THEIR. AND OUR MEMBERS WOULD HAVE RISK THEIR OWN LIVES TO GO IN THERE AND GET PEOPLE OUT OF NECESSARY.

>> CHIEF, CAN YOU MAKE SURE TO TALK INTO THE MIC?

>> SURE. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE DECISIONS

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I CAN TELL YOU, THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS GOING ON IN THE CITY CURRENTLY WITH THE DRAINAGE % IMPROVEMENTS BUT YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON HERE THAT THE CITY HAS TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY. IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE THERE THAT IF YOU EVER LOOK IN THERE ESPECIALLY AT 5:00 IN THE MORNING, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A TON IN THERE. THERE IS NOT. IT LOOKS ABOUT THE BELOW WHAT YOU SEE IN THE SURFACE IS SILT AND SAND AND DIRT THAT HAD WE DROPPED THOSE FIRE HOSES IN THEIR IT WOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY PUT OUR TRUCK OUT OF SERVICE AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE IT. THE DRAINAGE PROJECTS THAT YOU FOLKS HAVE BEEN USING FOR QUITE SOME TIME WHEN YOU DRAIN THE STUFF OUT OF THERE WILL ALSO HELP. SO THAT IS ANOTHER TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX WE CAN USE TO GET WATER ON THOSE FIRE. SO THANK YOU ALL.

IF ANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO OUT, I HAVE MAPS OF THE AREA THAT WE HAVE OUR WATER SUPPLIES LISTED IN. I HAVE THE REPORT WITH OUR TIMES IN THERE. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO FEEL COMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT WE CAN DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND. IT IS OUR NUMBER ONE

PRIORITY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.

>> WE WILL GET BACK TO PUBLIC COMMENTS SO DON'T THINK WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS. I JUST WANTED TO GET OUT THERE FIRST AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT JUST SO THAT WE CAN ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD WITH MY COMMENTS. AT THIS JUNCTURE, I'M NOT AS PREPARED WITH NOTES AS IT WOULD BE FOR AS I WAS BEFORE, SO I MAY RAMBLE ON A LITTLE BIT. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF. WE HAD A MEETING -- WE ARE GOING TO DO OUR COMMENTS AND THEN WE ARE COMING TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. SO YOU GUYS WILL ALL GET TO -- MIGHT AS WELL FINISH UP MY COMMENTS AND THEN YOU GUYS WILL CALL PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ANYONE WHO IS HERE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK, YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. NOW I FORGOT WHERE I WAS. THINGS, BARRY. I AM JUST KIDDING.

>> KNOW WHAT? LET'S DO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THEN WE WILL GO

BACK. >>

>> YOU WON. YOU WON. YOU WANT TO GO IN ORDER?

>> WE WILL GO IN ORDER ON THE LIST.

>> OKAY. HE IS THE HOMEOWNER. HE JUST ARRIVED AND HE IS NOT

ON THE LIST. >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ON THE LIST. WE ARE GOING TO GO ON THE LIST. ALLISON IS GOING TO READ

THE LIST. BARRY, ARE YOU FIRST? >> SHELLEY MILLER? YOU ARE

NEXT, BARRY. YOU ARE NEXT. >> SHELLEY MILLER 7666 . I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT I HAVE LIVED IN PARKLAND LONGER THAN ANYONE IN THIS ROOM . I HAVE BEEN HERE 50 YEARS. I HAVE BEEN HERE -- I WANT TO REMIND YOU ALSO, WHAT WAS THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD IN PARKLAND? YOU TELL ME. AND THE FIRST NINE MARES WERE FROM? SO, PLEASE DON'T FORGET THAT BECAUSE OFTEN -- I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE I AM TALKING ABOUT OTHER THINGS. I AM TALKING ABOUT A CONVERSATION I HAD WITH MR. WALKER TWO YEARS AGO WHEN I REMINDED HIM THAT WE HAVE RESTRICTED COVENANTS IN THE RANCHES. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE. I THINK GOD THAT ELKIN IS WITH US BUT WHEN I TOLD HIM HE WE HAVE RESTRICTIVE EVIDENCE, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS NICELY, YOU TOLD ME A BOLDFACED LIE AND TOLD ME THEY WERE NEVER ENTERED INTO THE CITY CHARTER AND THAT IS NOT TRUE. I SAT UNDER FIVE MARES WHO ALL DISCUSSED THE CITY CHARTER AND THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS OF THE RANCHES SO, THEY ARE A FACT. AND I WANT YOU TO ALL TO REMEMBER THAT WE WERE THERE AT THE BEGINNING. WHEN WE MOVE HERE THERE WERE 200 PEOPLE IN PARKLAND NOW THERE IS MUCH MORE BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BE FORGOTTEN. JUST BECAUSE WE ARE LITTLE, IT DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE NOT MIGHTY. PLEASE DON'T FORGET US. THE OTHER THING IS I HAVE A SIGN IN MY FRONT YARD THAT SAYS I AM A WATER SOURCE.

I KNOW THE WATER SOURCE THAT MAXINE HAD TO POINT OUT IT IS NOT MARKED. IT IS NOT A LITTLE POND , IT IS A TWO ACRE POND.

IT IS BIG. THEN WE HAVE THE NEW PUMP IN THE BACK THAT THEY REDID. THAT PUMP IS STRAIGHT OUT OF IT EVERGLADES. THE EVERGLADES HAS 1,000,000 1/2 ACRES OF WATERS . SOMEBODY HAS TO SWITCH THE FLIP AND THEY CAN FILL UP THE CANAL REALLY, REALLY FAST. AND I KNOW THAT CHIEF MOZER CAN AGREE WITH ME

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GLAD YOU'RE HERE. >> THANK YOU. ALLISON?

>> THINGS. OUR HOUSE IS DIRECTLY OPPOSITE WHERE THE FIRE WAS AND THAT IS WHY WE WERE ABLE TO SPOT IT AND I THINK THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD SOMETHING LIKE 50 FIREMEN THERE. QUITE A FEW POLICE WERE THERE . SO, THEY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB, IN MY OPINION, NOT THAT I KNOW WHAT WERE THE TECHNICAL ISSUES, BUT THE CANAL THERE, MANY TIMES AS YOU GUYS KNOW HAS NO WATER AT ALL, SO, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE ARE FINALLY CORRECTING THE CANALS SO THAT THEY HAVE THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE FOR THE WATER, BUT IT TOOK THEM ANOTHER HOUR BEFORE THEY WENT TO THE LAKE AND STARTED USING THE LAKE. MY UNDERSTANDING FOR THE NUMBER OF HOURS I WAS THERE WAS THAT IT TOOK THEM FIVE HOURS TO PUT OUT THE FIRE. THE PROBLEM WAS, HICH WE DIDN'T GET NOW, WAS THAT THE NEXT DAY, THEY HAD TO COME BACK BECAUSE THE FIRE STARTED UP AGAIN. SO, IT WAS THE SECOND DAY THAT THEY WERE WORKING ON THAT FIRE. I AM NOT SURE WHAT THAT WAS ALL ABOUT, BUT THEY DID USE FOAM THE SECOND DAY AND THEN THERE WAS A BIG RAIN SO THE FIRE WENT OUT THE SECOND DAY, NOT WHILE ALL OF THESE FIREMEN WERE THERE ON THE FIRST DAY AFTER FIVE HOURS OF WORKING ON THAT. SO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TOO BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIR , THAT THE FIRE REIGNITED ON THE SECOND DAY. THE THIRD THING WAS THAT THEY WERE KIND OF LUCKY BECAUSE THAT LAKE WAS WITHIN THREE ACRES OF WHERE THE FIRE WAS, BUT THERE WERE OTHER AREAS WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT. NOW, IN OUR PARTICULAR STREET HAS MULTIBILLION-DOLLAR HOMES. THERE IS A $15,000 HOME, A 15 SQUARE FOOT HOME THERE . THEY ARE BUILDING A 10,000 SQUARE-FOOT HOME . A SHORT DISTANCE AWAY. MY OTHER NEIGHBOR NOW ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ME IS BUILDING TWO HOMES.

SO, THERE IS A LOT OF VERY EXPENSIVE HOMES ON THAT STREET . SO, THE POINT IS THAT FOR 12 YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET FIRE HYDRANTS. I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT THING AND I THINK IT IS MAYBE TIME TO REVISIT THAT WHOLE ISSUE . NOW, I ALSO HEARD TODAY THAT MIKE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT, THAT NONE OF US SHOULD BE DRINKING THE WATER.

NOW, ALL OF THOSE HOUSES HAVE WELL WATER ON OUR STREET SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS THAT FOR A MONTH NOW, WE SHOULDN'T BE DRINKING THE WATER. I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT IT WAS USED CONTAMINATED THE WATER AROUND THAT AREA OR NOT BUT I THINK THAT IS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. SO, I WANT TO JUST BRING THOSE THINGS UP.

>> AS FAR AS THE WATER GOES, CHIEF MOSIER IF YOU CAN FIND VERY . AND THAT IS OVER MY HEAD. WHO IS NEXT?

>> MAXINE GOTTMAN. >> MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS , BY THE GRACE OF GOD, I HAPPENED TO TAKE MY DOG OUT AT 4:40 IN THE MORNING . SHE WAKES ME UP FROM TIME TO TIME. I AM OUT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TIME TO TIME WITH THE ANIMALS. WITH THE BOBCATS, WITH THE COYOTES, AND THIS PARTICULAR MORNING, SHE LET ME SLEEP A LITTLE BIT AND IT WAS 4:40 AND I WAS WALKING DOWN MY DRIVEWAY AND I THOUGHT I SAW SMOKE. I DIDN'T SEE FLAMES. I THOUGHT I SAW SMOKE. AND I WASN'T SURE. I WALKED OUT TO THE END AND I SAID TO MYSELF, YOU KNOW, I SHOULD PROBABLY CALL 911. AND I WENT IN THE HOUSE , I GOT MY PHONE, I CALLED 911 AND I TRIED TO CALL MY NEIGHBOR. HE DIDN'T ANSWER. AND SO, I WENT OVER AND I STARTED RINGING THE BELL.

THEY DIDN'T HEAR IT. I WAS KNOCKING ON THE DOOR. I WAS

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AND I THINK WE WERE VERY LUCKY. I THINK THAT BY WAKING HIM UP , CALLING 911 , GETTING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OUT, I THINK THAT WE SAVED THEIR LIVES. I REALLY THINK THAT THIS THING COULD HAVE REALLY GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL . SO, HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT AND BEING INVOLVED LAST TIME EIGHT YEARS AGO WHEN THE OTHER FIRE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAPPENED AND THERE WAS NO WATER TO FIGHT THAT FIRE, THEIR HOUSE COMPLETELY BURNED. I KIND OF HAVE PTSD OVER THIS. IT IS VERY UPSETTING TO ME THAT WE DON'T HAVE HYDRANTS. I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR HYDRANTS FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS. EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION KNOWS THAT WHEN YOU SEE US, WE TALKED ABOUT WATER , WE TALK ABOUT ROADS. AND I REALLY THINK IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE. ANOTHER THING I JUST WANT TO MENTION, I THINK SOMEBODY NEEDS TO PUT OUT SOME INFORMATION FROM US. IF WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO DRINK THE WATER FOR A MONTH, THEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS TO KNOW .

HOW THIS WAS COMMUNICATED IS, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STOPPED AT ELKIN'S HOME TODAY AND TOLD HIM NOT TO DRINK THE WATER AND TO TELL YOUR NEIGHBORS. WELL, NOT REALLY AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO LET US ALL KNOW THAT WE CAN'T DRINK THE WATER BECAUSE OF THE FOAM THAT THEY SPRAYED ON THE FIRE. SO, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE TO LET OUR COMMUNITY KNOW AND HOW MANY NEIGHBORS AT THIS REALLY AFFECTS. WE REALLY DON'T KNOW. BUT ANYWAY, IF YOU COULD TAKE CARE OF THAT, WE WOULD DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT.

>> UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS THE FIRST I AM HEARING OF THAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> WHO IS NEXT?

>> MARIE DWYER. >> SO, I, LIKE MAXINE, HAVE BEEN FOR MANY YEARS LOOKING FOR WATER AND HYDRANTS AND WRENCHES AND, YEAH. WE WERE VERY LUCKY THIS TIME. THESE TWO BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN WERE AT RISK BECAUSE THERE WAS NO WATER READILY AVAILABLE AND MAYOR, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT I DON'T CALL FOR THAT. IF THAT WAS THE CASE THEN NOBODY WOULD NEED HYDRANTS, BUT THERE ISN'T A PLACE IN PARKLAND , EXCEPT THE WRENCHES, THAT DOESN'T HAVE HYDRANTS.

PINETREE ESTATES MOST LIKELY. SO, THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION WE ARE IN OUT THERE. ALL OF THESE HOMES GOING UP .

NICE NEW HOMES . CHILDREN YOUNG CHILDREN . SHELLEY OVER HERE.

IF SOMETHING OVER HERE HAPPENS IN SHELLEY'S HOUSE. WE NEED WATER ON HER HOUSE PRETTY QUICKLY. SO, I WON'T BE ABLE TO ATTEND THE OCTOBER WORKSHOP , I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN, BUT IS THAT IMPORTANT THAT WE NEEDED, NUMBER ONE, FOR FIRE PROTECTION BUT ALSO FOR DRINKING WATER! YOU KNOW, THE FIRE SPARKED -- DIDN'T MEAN TO DO A PUN. THE FIRE SPARKED THE THING ABOUT THE WATER, BUT DRINKING WATER IS JUST AS VALUABLE TO US OUT THERE . PURE, GOOD DRINKING WATER IS JUST AS VALUABLE TO THE RESIDENCE OF THE WRENCHES AS FIRE HYDRANTS. YOU KNOW, I HOPE DURING THIS WORKSHOP YOU CAN BRING IN THE CORAL SPRINGS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING THE WATER -- OR FIRE HYDRANTS IN THERE.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE CITY AND THE SPRINGS CAN'T MAKE A DEAL ABOUT FIRE HYDRANTS AND WATER COMING UP A SECOND AND 84TH! I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT! IT CAN BE DONE! IF YOU HAVE THE RESOLUTION TO DO IT , IT WILL GET DONE. AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE AN ATTEMPT BUT IS THIS GOING TO BE JUST WINDOWDRESSING OR IS IT GOING TO BE REALLY AN ATTEMPT? A MEETING THAT WILL PLACATE THE PEOPLE AND THE RESIDENCE OF THE WRENCHES RANCHES OR IS IT GOING TO BE REAL? AND IF THE SPRINGS IS IN THERE, IT IS NOT REAL.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WHO IS NEXT?

>> ALAN TRODACK. >> ALAN?

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>> HELLO. ALAN TRODACK. 7920 NORTHWEST 81 AVENUE. THE NORTH RANCHES. I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE MYSELF AS A RESOURCE.

IF WE NEED TO GO TO THE CAPITAL MARKETS FOR DEBT SERVICE WERE ANY PROJECTS, IT IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE DONE FOR THE LAST 32 YEARS. BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE, THE CITY HAS AN INCREDIBLE RANKING IN THE COUNTRY AND THAT THE DEBT WOULD BE HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER. WE WOULD PAY LOWER THAN ANYONE. WE CAN DO THE PROJECTS IF WE KNOW HOW MUCH IT IS AND I BELIEVE THE RESIDENCES -- THE RESIDENCE IN THE RANCHES, GIVEN THE AMOUNT AND GIVEN THE REAL NUMBERS WILL BE FACED WITH THE DECISION AND I THINK YOU CAN PUT IT TO BED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. WHAT IT REALLY COSTS THEM A HOW MUCH OF THE DEBT SERVICE REALLY WOULD BE BECAUSE I WOULD ARGUE THAT WE COULD PROBABLY DO A LOT OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE 4 TO 5 PERCENT RANGE IN TERMS OF DEBT SERVICE. YES, THERE ARE FEES INVOLVED, BUT THERE IS A NEED FOR MUNICIPAL BOND THAT IN THE MARKETPLACE AND WE CAN FUND ANY PROJECT SO, I OFFER MYSELF AS A RESOURCE NOT THROUGH MY COMPANY DIRECTLY AND I WOULD JUST OFFER MYSELF TO THE COMMISSION AND THEN, WE COULD SEEK THAT OUT.

>> THANK YOU. >> AARON HILL.

>> GOOD EVENING. KAREN HELP. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSIONER AND MAYOR FOR BEING OPEN TO HEARING ABOUT THIS. I SERVE ON THE BOARD FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND I KNOW IT IS DIFFICULT TO SIT THERE AT TIMES THOUGH, THANK YOU. I ALSO WANT TO THINK FIRE CHIEF FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. MY FATHER WAS A FIRE CHIEF AS WELL. HE IS RETIRED NOW SO I KNOW THAT TACTICS HAVE CHANGED AND THERE IS NO FIRE HYDRANTS SO, THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST WANT TO SAY FOR THE WORKSHOP, WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THE MISSION FOR PARKLAND. SO I JUST WANT TO READ IT INTO THE RECORD. OUR MISSION IS TO PROVIDE QUALITY SERVICES WHILE PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY'S UNIQUE CHARACTER AND NATURAL ENVIRONMENTS ADDING VALUE TO OUR RESIDENTS LIVES AND ADVOCATING TO PROTECT COMMUNITY INTEREST SO I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP THAT IN MIND WHILE WE ARE DOING THE WORKSHOP AND TRYING TO COME TO A RESOLUTION. IF IT MEANS LOOKING AT OTHER AVENUES IN TERMS OF GRANTS OR OTHER ALLEGATIONS OF FUNDING THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY, MAKE US FEEL SAFER. WE HAD A HOUSE THAT BURNED LIKE MAXINE SAID EIGHT YEARS AGO SO IT IS A CONCERN. IT IS NOT JUST WHETHER A HOUSE IS OCCUPIED OR NOT. I KNOW YOU MADE THAT DECISION BECAUSE IT WASN'T OCCUPIED BUT HOWEVER, THE HOUSE THAT DID BIRD DOWN WAS OCCUPIED. I THINK IT IS GOOD TO BE PROACTIVE AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING A WORKSHOP IN THE FORWARD TO IT.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT? >> OKUN, YOU SAID? IS THAT YOUR NAME? YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING?

>>

ARE WELCOME TO. >> WE RECENTLY MOVE TO PARKLAND ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO AND WHEN I SAW THE HOME, WHICH IT WAS IN TORN DOWN AND COMPLETELY DEMOED, BUT I FOUND OUT IT BELONGED TO THE FIFTH METER OF PARKLAND, SO MY WIFE SAID, YOU ARE CRAZY. WHY DO YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT HOUSE? JUST TEAR IT DOWN. I SAID, THERE IS HISTORY THERE AND I LIKE THE CHARM OF PARKLAND. AND SO, JUST SEEING HOW PART OF MY HOME GOT DESTROYED, I JUST , YOU KNOW, IT IS DIFFICULT TO ENVISION THAT HAVING DREAMS AND THEN HAVING SETBACKS. SO, IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO TO ENFORCE, EVEN IF IT IS IN THE PLAN, PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT IT WILL COST AND THEN LET THE OTHER GENTLEMAN SAID, WE CAN AFFORD IT , AT LEAST WE HAVE THAT OPTION. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS AND AT LEAST MY KIDS ARE WAKING UP. DADDY, WHAT HAPPENED? IF ANOTHER LIGHTNING STRIKE, I WOULD PROTECT IT. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD ARRIVE AND WE WOULD BE SAFE. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. I KNOW THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO PUT OUT THAT FIRE. THEY RAN OUT OF WATER. WE SAW THE FLAME.

AND THEN, THEY SAID WE HAD TO TAKE IT DOWN. THERE IS NO WAY TO CONTAIN THE FIRE. IT HAS ALREADY SPREAD OUT TOO MUCH.

AND IT IS A SECTION THAT I HAD TO DO THE MATH BUT RIGHT NOW, I

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>> WE ARE VERY SORRY WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE ARE GLAD THAT EVERYBODY IS SAFE.

>> THINK YOU. ANYONE? ANYONE ELSE?

>>

>> I AM LIKE SHELLEY, OBVIOUSLY, BEEN HERE THAT LONG BUT MY FAMILY HAS OWNED THIS PROPERTY SINCE THE 70S. BUT I WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING LIKE YOU SAID. IT WAS A DEFENSIVE PLAN AND IT TOOK A SHORT TIME TO GET TO THE WATER. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT WAS 40 MINUTES SO IF IT WAS OCCUPIED, HOW WOULD THAT CHANGE THE TIME? I KNOW YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING OVER THE FACTS BUT I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER IS TERRIFIED TO GO TO SLEEP AT NIGHT BECAUSE SHE SAW A FIRE AT DON'T KNOW, NANNY'S HOUSE AND THE NEXT DAY AT THE NEXT HOUSE. IT IS SCARY FOR US. SO 40 MINUTES I FEEL IT IS A VERY LONG TIME SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE ALREADY SETTING UP A MEETING AND I AM HOPEFULLY GOING TO ATTEND THAT. BUT THAT WAS ONE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SAY THAT 40 MINUTES TO ME, WHEN IT IS YOUR HOME, EVERYONE HAS THESE MULTI-MILLION-DOLLAR HOUSES. I HAVE A 1500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE THAT IS BEEN IN MY FAMILY FOR LONG TIME SO IT IS NOT A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOUSE BUT IT IS SPECIAL AND MY CHILD LIVES THERE SO, THAT IS REALLY ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU FOR THE MEETING AND I AM WITH RORY ABOUT HAVING THE WATER THERE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? NO ONE ELSE? OKAY. I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND RESTART BUT I DO WANT TO REITERATE AND I DON'T WANT TO LESSEN BECAUSE IT IS IN AN UNOCCUPIED BARN BY WANT TO OBVIOUSLY READ OR WRITE WHAT I SAID EARLIER. THE STRATEGY WOULD BE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW? IF PEOPLE WERE IN DANGER , THINGS ARE DIFFERENT. MORE TRUCKS WOULD HAVE COME. THE EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT. THE RESPONSE WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE OUTCOME NECESSARILY WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAT YOU CAN SAVE YOUR HOME.

SOMETIMES THE FIRE IS JUST TOO BIG AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO. YOU CAN'T SAVE IT. WHEN YOU DUMP 100,000 GALLONS ON A HOME, THAT IS GOING TO HAVE REPERCUSSIONS AS WELL.

>> RIGHT THERE SO, YOU CAN ASK HIM WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU WANT. HE IS THE PROFESSIONAL SO, HE IS GOING TO BE BETTER EQUIPPED TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS AS HE CAN. OKAY. SO, WITH THAT, HOPEFULLY, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE DEDICATION THAT OUR POLICE AND FIRE HAVE SO, I APPRECIATE IT TO YOU GUYS. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THINKING STAFF, NOT JUST OUR STAFF BUT ALSO THE STAFF OF CORAL SPRINGS , THE CORAL SPRINGS COMMISSION . WE HAD A FANTASTIC WORKSHOP , WHEN WAS IT? MONDAY? TUESDAY? TUESDAY.

AGAIN, WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT OUR INITIAL PLAN TO PURCHASE THE LAND FROM HERON BAY GOLF COURSE OR A PORTION OF IT FROM NSID. OUR PLAN WAS ALWAYS TO SELL OFF SOME OF IT TO RECOUP OUR INVESTMENT , WHICH WE DID TO TOLL BROTHERS 21 ACRES. WE GOT 19.5 MILLION BACK. CORAL SPRINGS WAS IN AGREEMENT WITH OUR COMMISSION THAT HAVING A LIFETIME FITNESS MAKE SENSE SO, WE ARE GOING TO PROCEED WITH SOME OF THAT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT THROUGH THE FISHING LINE AND THAT IS ANOTHER RECUPERATION OF OUR INVESTMENT FROM OUR INITIAL INVESTMENT. WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBERS YET. NANCY WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT. AND LIFETIME IS A GREAT BRAND. THAT IS GOING TO LEAD US IN FANTASTIC POSITION TO LEAD FINISH OFF THE MILLAGE.

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE SHOULD BE ANNEXING . THERE IS A SMALL PORTION IN CORAL SPRINGS, 815 ACRES THAT IS A PART OF OUR MILLAGE THAT CORAL SPRINGS ALSO AGREED TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY OF PARKLAND. SO, NOW, THE MILLAGE, IN ITS ENTIRETY WILL BE IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND. SO, I AM VERY PROUD OF OUR STAFF,

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WHEN THERE IS ISSUES, WE TACKLE THEM HEAD-ON. PINETREE RHODES, THE CANALS AND THE RANCHES, THE ROADS AND THE RANCHES , REZONING MSD. WE DON'T SIT BACK AND ASK FOR THINGS TO HAPPEN. INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR A DEVELOPER TO COME, WE JUMP OUT FRONT AND WE TACKLE WHATEVER ISSUES WE CAN. AND THAT IS HOW WE OPERATE AND HOW WE CONTINUE TO OPERATE THAT AS LONG AS I AM HERE ON THIS COMMISSION AND I APPRECIATE THAT WE ALL WORKED EXTREMELY HARD AND WE ALL HAVE OUR HEARTS IN THE RIGHT PLACE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN FOR THE RESIDENCE RESIDENTS OF PARKLAND. AND I AM EXTREMELY PROUD TO SERVE ALL OF YOU AND WORK WITH THIS TREMENDOUS STAFF AND I CAN'T FORGET TO THINK CORAL SPRINGS AND THEIR STAFF .

IT IS A TREMENDOUS PARTNERSHIP. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THEM IN THE NEXT PHASE. I AM DEFINITELY GOING TO RAMBLE HERE BUT ANYWAY, 9/11 . I SAW SOMETHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA THE OTHER DAY AND IT WAS 9/11 . BE THE PEOPLE WE WERE ON 9/12 . SO MY SON TOLD ME -- WAS IT THIS MORNING? THREE KIDS STOOD UP FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN HIS CLASSROOM TODAY. TALK ABOUT UPSETTING. AND DISAPPOINTING. BUT THAT IS WHERE OUR COUNTRY IS. WE HAVE LOST ALL COMPASSION , ALL OUR ABILITIES TO COMPROMISE, ALL OF OUR ABILITIES TO HAVE NORMAL CONVERSATIONS. EVEN HERE ON THIS COMMISSION, WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE BUT WE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS, AND WE ULTIMATELY COME TO A CONSENSUS AND ONCE YOU COME TO A CONSENSUS, YOU COME TO A COMPROMISE . YOU THEN HAVE TO WORK TOWARDS MAKING THE BEST OF THAT SITUATION AND OUR COUNTRY HAS ABSOLUTELY FORGOTTEN THAT AND WE ARE TEACHING OUR CHILDREN THAT THAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO ACT. THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SPEAK AND THIS WILL NOT BE THE LAST THAT I WILL SPEAK ON. THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC. I KNOW A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THERE WAS THE -- WHAT WAS IT? NOT GOVERNMENT DAY. WHERE THEY TEACH ABOUT THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE .

>> WAS. THEY GAVE CHILDREN THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT . TO OPT OUT OF LEARNING ABOUT OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY. THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE TO ME. AND IT SHOULDN'T MATTER WHAT YOU ARE , WHAT RACE YOU ARE, WHAT RELIGION YOU ARE , WHAT YOU ARE. WHAT IS YOUR SEXUAL ORIENTATION. WE HAVE LOST SIGHT OF EVERYTHING AND US AS PARENTS, WE ARE TO BLAME. WHERE DO THESE KIDS LEARN THAT IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE TO STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? WHERE DID THEY LEARN THAT? THEY LEARNED THAT FROM -- WELL, ONLY FROM PROFESSIONAL OUT THE ATHLETES . THEY LEARNED THAT FROM THEIR PARENTS. THEY LEARNED THAT FROM SOMEBODY BECAUSE KIDS AT THAT AGE SHOULD NOT BE IN A POSITION TO BE THINKING ABOUT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, LEARNING ABOUT OUR HISTORY, IT IS NOT POLITICAL. IT IS NOT POLITICAL AT ALL. YOU LIVE HERE. YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY TO LIVE HERE. WE HAVE MORE FREEDOMS THAN ANYBODY HAS , BUT WE ARE SLOWLY LOSING THOSE BECAUSE WE CAN NO LONGER COOPERATE. WE CAN NO LONGER COMPROMISE. IT IS MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME , YOU ARE A LIAR AND I HATE YOU. THAT, TO ME, IS DISGUSTING. WE NEED TO BE BETTER THAN THAT. AND WE NEED TO START COMING TOGETHER AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE NOT

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OR, IF IT IS SOMETHING YOU JUST CAN'T DEAL WITH, FIGURE OUT A WAY. THERE IS ALWAYS A WAY TO MAKE SOMETHING BETTER AND WE HAVE JUST ABSOLUTELY LOST SIGHT OF THAT. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THAT, I COULD NOT HEAR BETTER WORDS BECAUSE -- FOR ALL. IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT IS FOR ALL. THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD ALL APPRECIATE AND EMBRACE. AND UNTIL WE START LEARNING THOSE THINGS AND TEACHING OUR KIDS AND ACTING THAT WAY, WE ARE SETTING UP THE FUTURE GENERATIONS FOR FAILURE. AND THAT IS ON US. SO -- OH -- THE

CANALS -- >>

>> -- I DO WANT TO SAY GOING BACK ON THE WATER ISSUE, WE TALKED ABOUT FIRE HYDRANTS BEFORE. WE TALKED ABOUT WATER WITH THIS WHOLE CANAL PROJECT. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE CANAL WAS SUCH A HIGH PRIORITY FOR US AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH DOING THE CANALS IS WE UNDERSTOOD THE NEED FOR BETTER SAFETY. THAT CANAL WILL NOT ONLY HELP WITH DRAINAGE BUT IT WILL HELP WITH GETTING WATER FOR FIRES. WE HAVE LOOKED AT GETTING WATER AND SEWER IN THE RANCHES . IT IS A BIG PRICE TAG AND, YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CANNOT AFFORD. AS A WHOLE . BUT I'M HAPPY TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS. I KNOW I AM GOING TO MEET WITH JEANETTE HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK AND WE CAN HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO SPEAK ABOUT WHATEVER YOU WANT AND WHOEVER YOU WANT TO BRING OR WHATEVER AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT WATER, WE CAN TALK ABOUT SEWER, WE CAN TALK ABOUT FIRE HYDRANTS. WHATEVER YOU WANT, YOU WILL HAVE MY TIME AND WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE FEEL MAYBE IT IS NOT COST-EFFECTIVE AND SOMETIMES, THOSE ARE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE BECAUSE WHEN YOU HEAR 30 , $40 MILLION PRICE TAGS, MAYBE SOME CANNED BUT NOT EVERYBODY CAN AND WE WANT EVERYBODY TO STAY IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND FOR AS LONG AS THEY WANT TO.

BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY ENJOYS EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE GOING ON HERE IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND. I DON'T WANT TO RAMBLE TOO MUCH. VICE MAYOR? WE WILL GO TO

COMMISSIONER BRIER. >> TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS. I WOULD KEEP IT BRIEF. I WANT TO THANK GOD AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS. THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SACRIFICED AND RISK THEIR OWN LIVES TO SAVE OTHERS FOR ALL OF THEIR HARD WORK. I WANT TO THINK OUR GOOD FRIENDS MAXINE AND BARRY GUTMAN FOR BEING ATTENTIVE AND PROACTIVE IN CALLING 911 AND ALERTING THE OWNERS AND THANKFULLY NO LOSS OF LIFE OCCURRED . I ALWAYS KNEW SHE WAS A GREAT NEIGHBOR BUT THIS IS PROOF. WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE CORAL SPRINGS-PARKLAND FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE AMAZING JOB THAT THEY DO AND I AM PROUD THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS DEDICATED RESOURCES TO GIVE THEM THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOB BUT I AM CONFIDENT THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE DOING AN AMAZING JOB. YOU HEARD CHIEF MOSIER AND MAYOR, MENTIONED IT TALKING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE PROJECT. AND I KNOW SOME OF THE RESIDENCE WAS BOOKED TONIGHT ARE HELPING THAT EFFORT THAT WE NEED OUR RESIDENTS TO HELP US TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AND COORDINATE AND COOPERATE WITH THE DRAINAGE PROJECTS SO WE CAN ADDRESS THAT , FIX THOSE ISSUES, AND HELP OUR WATER RETENTION SO WE CAN ASSIST IN THIS AND IN OTHER AREAS. ALSO, THIS RAISES ANOTHER ISSUE THAT I ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS TO EXPLORE MONITORING DEVICES THAT ALERT 911 OR AT LEAST THEM WHETHER THEY ARE NOT HOME OR FOR UNOCCUPIED STRUCTURES TO ALLOW OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT TO GET THEIR FIX QUICKER AND REACT QUICKER. I ECHO THAT WE HAD A PRODUCTIVE JOINT WORKSHOP WITH THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS AND THINK OUR STAFF FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER AND THE RESIDENTS WHO CAME OUT. WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT EVENTS OVER THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS IN OUR CITY WHETHER IT IS THE STANLEY CUP

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>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BRIER. COMMISSIONER CUTLER?

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS TONIGHT. I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT THAT TO DEVOLVE INTO A DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE SOME HIGHER-LEVEL POLITICS BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING THAT UNFORTUNATELY OUR ENTIRE NATION SEEMS TO BE STRUGGLING WITH AT THE MOMENT RELATIVE TO THE IDEA THAT THERE IS DIVISIVENESS IN OUR COUNTRY.

IT STARTS NOT JUST WITH THE PARENTS BUT ALSO GOES TO LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTRY. SO, AS PART OF THAT, YOU KNOW, AND AS PART OF MY OTHER COMMENTS TONIGHT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO VOTE. LET'S VOTE . NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE A NATIONAL ELECTION BUT WE ALSO HAVE AN ELECTION IN THE CITY AND MANY PEOPLE FORGET THAT THIS NOVEMBER, WE WILL HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR NEW COMMISSIONERS UP HERE AND WE ALREADY HAVE ONE THAT IS ALREADY RIGHT HERE SITTING BEHIND ME NOW AND SO, I WANT EVERYBODY TO VOTE AND I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE FIRE STUFF BECAUSE I THINK YOU DELVED INTO THAT. I KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO COME TO OUR ATTENTION IS THE FACT THAT -- AS SHELLEY POINTED OUT WITH RESPECT TO THE RANCHES, THAT IS A UNIQUE AREA. IT IS AN AREA THAT MANY, MANY OF THE COMMISSIONS HAVE TRIED TO PRESERVE IN THE STATE THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY FOUNDED IN. THE IDEA THAT IT HAS, YOU KNOW, AN AGRICULTURAL FLAVOR TO IT, HORSES AND ALL OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT ONE THING THAT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION IS THERE MAYBE PEOPLE IN THE RANCHES OF THAT ARE TAKING LIBERTIES RELATIVE TO BURNING DEBRIS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY COMMON IN AGRICULTURAL SETTINGS, BUT WE HAVE A UNIQUE AGRICULTURAL SETTING AND THAT UNIQUENESS IS THAT IT IS NOT JUST AG IT IS SURROUNDED BY, AS YOU HAVE ALL POINTED OUT, VERY HIGH-END HOMES , RESIDENCES IN THE AREA , ISSUES RELATIVE TO THE FACT THAT WE DO NOT HAVE HYDRANTS IN THAT AREA SO, ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY WANT IN THAT WORKSHOP IS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT PERHAPS LOOKING AT OUR ORDINANCES RELATIVE TO OPEN BURNING IN THAT AREA. SO, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PREVENTING ANY FURTHER POSSIBILITIES OF PROBLEMS WITH THAT AND AGAIN, GETTING BACK TO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS. AND I HATE TO BE A DOWNER ABOUT THIS BUT MY FIRST COMMENT IS I REALLY WANT TO EXPRESS MY SINCERE CONDOLENCES TO THE BUCKHOLD FAMILY BECAUSE MAYBE IF YOU DON'T KNOW, OUR FORMER FIRST LADY, JULIENNE BUCKHOLD , PASSED AWAY OVER THE WEEKEND. AND SHE AND HER FAMILY WERE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE EARLY YEARS OF PARKLAND AND SO I WANTED TO SHARE MY CONDOLENCES WITH THE FAMILY IN THAT REGARD . SECONDARILY, IN CHANGING GEARS BUT ALSO GETTING INTO THAT WHOLE ISSUE ON THE VOTING THING, I AM GOING TO SAY, HERE WE GO AGAIN. APALACHEE HIGH SCHOOL HAD A SHOOTING IN GEORGIA. FOUR BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE IN SCHOOL, DEAD. WEDNESDAY'S MASS SHOOTING WHICH HAPPENED JUST WEEKS INTO THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR WAS THE 45TH SCHOOL SHOOTING SO FAR THIS YEAR AND THE DEADLIEST U.S. SCHOOL SHOOTING SINCE THE MARCH 20 2020 MASSACRE AT THE COVETED SCHOOL IN NASHVILLE THAT LAST SIX PEOPLE DEAD. SO, I WANT TO SAY TO THE PEOPLE OF THAT COMMUNITY, WE HERE IN PARKLAND, WE SEE YOU, WE STAND WITH YOU ,

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BEING SHOT AT SCHOOL IS. SO, IN REGARDS TO THIS IDEA, WE NEED TO GET THE LEADERSHIP IN PLACE THAT IS GOING TO MAKE A CHANGE IN THAT REGARD. IN THIS COUNTRY, THERE HAVE BEEN 3000 734 MASS SHOOTINGS SINCE MARJORY STONEMAN DOUGLAS. IN 2024 ALONE, 49 PEOPLE FROM 23 SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN KILLED OR INJURED AS A RESULT OF THIS WILL SHOOTING. AS OF AUGUST 31ST, A TOTAL OF 527 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED AND 1735 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WOUNDED IN 432 SHOOTINGS . THE TIME IS NOW TO AFFECT NATIONWIDE CHANGE. WE NEED TO DO THAT. SO THAT IS ALL I AM GOING TO SAY IN THAT REGARD. I DO WANT TO GIVE MY CONGRATULATIONS TO COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN FOR BEING AWARDED THE GOLD CERTIFICATE OF EXCELLENCE AS COMMISSIONER BRIER POINTED OUT FROM THE FLORIDA LEAGUE UNIVERSITY. IT TAKES NOT JUST DEDICATION TO THE JOB THAT HE HAS HERE BUT ALSO DEDICATION IN THE SENSE THAT HE TAKES THAT ADDITIONAL EXTRA TIME AND GOES THE EXTRA MILE TO DO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND SO, I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT, BOB. THAT IS REALLY GREAT. SHOUT OUT TO GLENN AND EMILY BESSER FOR THEIR SUCCESSFUL FOR THE FOOD ANIMAL FESTIVAL WITH LOTS OF FOOD VENDORS AND IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED BY MANY OF THE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. THE PARKLAND CHAMBER MEETING SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESSES WAS HELD ON AUGUST 26TH. PARKLAND BAGEL FOLLOW THE NEXT DAY BY A VERY WELL ATTENDED MIXER WITH A MARRIOTT. THAT WAS REALLY GREAT. IF YOU ARE NOT A MEMBER OF THE PARKLAND CHAMBER, I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS IN THIS COMMUNITY TO JOIN THEM BECAUSE IT IS WONDERFUL. AS COMMISSIONER BRIER POINTED OUT, THIS WEEKEND IS SOLDIER RUSH AT THE EQUESTRIAN CENTER AND ON THAT SAME DAY, THE AMAZING FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY ARE GOING TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD USED BOOK SALE. SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, PLEASE COME ON BY THE LIBRARY AND WHILE YOU ARE THERE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE WATERCOLOR DISPLAY OF JOHN BOWEN WHO IS THIS MONTHS ARTIST IN LIBRARY. THOSE ARE SPECTACULAR PAINTINGS. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER CUTLER. COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN?

>> FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU GUYS FOR ACKNOWLEDGING MY CERTIFICATES. SO I THINK YOU, MAYOR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE BRIEF BUT PROBABLY NOT. SO AGAIN, PROBABLY WITH REPETITIVE IN NATURE . I WANT TO THINK -- IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE PICTURES WITH THE COP AS WELL AS WITH PHIL, THE CARETAKER OF THE CUP. SO INTERESTING TIDBIT.

SEVERAL YEARS AGO. I DO WANT TO ALSO MENTION, I THINK IT WAS -- I AM LOSING DAYS BUT YESTERDAY WAS THE CHAMBER A BREAKFAST MEETING REALLY TALKING ABOUT HOW TO NETWORK ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO THERE WERE A LOT OF HELPFUL HINTS ON HOW TO NETWORK ON SOCIAL MEDIA SO I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. COMMISSIONER BRIER ALLUDED TO MY TIRE CHANGING EXPERTISE .

>> LITTLE BIT , I HAD A DISTRICT ADVISORY COUNCIL LAST NIGHT AND I DID GET A CALL FROM TWO RESIDENTS PANICKING THAT THEY HAD A FLAT TIRE. SO I IMMEDIATELY TURNED AROUND , RAN INTO ACTION . TO BE TRUTHFUL THERE, THERE WAS SOMEBODY ELSE

CHANGING THE TIRE. >>

>> BUT I DID PARTICIPATE. WE LOOKED THROUGH MANY VIDEOS, CORRECT? WE LOOKED THROUGH MANY VIDEOS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO LOWER THE TIRE THEN HAD TO TAKE OFF THE LUG NUTS BECAUSE WE FINALLY REALIZED THERE WAS A LUG NUT LOCK SO THERE WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE. SO, NANCY, IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE OFFER IN THE LIBRARY A TIRE CHANGING CLASS SO TO HELP THOSE THAT MIGHT NEED TO CHANGE TIRES. BUT IT WAS VERY POSITIVE IN THE SENSE THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE CHANGING THE TIRE WERE VERY GOOD SPIRIT BUT IT JUST SHOWS THE CAMARADERIE THAT WE REALLY HAVE IN THE CITY. SO, WE WILL LAUGH ABOUT IT FOR YEARS.

AGAIN, DO WANT TO THINK FOR STAFF AS WELL AS CORAL SPRING STAFF FOR OUR MULTI AGENCY COMMISSION MEETING. I THOUGHT

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NANCY, THIS MAY BE SOMETHING FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES TO BRING TO THAT WORKSHOP. I THOUGHT AND I COULD BE WRONG THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT PUTTING WATER IN THE RANCHES, NOT JUST FIRE HYDRANTS BUT WATER IN THE RANCHES, ONE OF THE CAVEATS WAS THAT -- AND THIS WAS EVEN IN PINETREE -- THEY HAD A HOOK UP WITH IN SO MANY DAYS TO THE WATER SOURCE. SO THOSE THAT WERE USING WELL WATER THAT ONCE WE LINE OUT THOSE WATERLINES, AND AGAIN I COULD BE WRONG BUT I BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE SOME STATE STATUTE THAT MIGHT REQUIRE THAT. SO IF WE COULD JUST LOOK INTO THAT TO SEE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU KNOW THE ANSWER?

>>

>> THAT IS FINE. THERE WAS A CAVEAT REGARDING THE CONNECTION TIMEFRAME . IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH CHRISTINA AT THE TIME AND MARY EUGENE TO MAKE SURE IF YOU HAD A RESIDENTIAL RULE RURAL DESIGNATION THAT RANCHES HAD THAT YOU WERE EXEMPT FROM SAID PROVISION. SO AS LONG AS IT HASN'T CHANGED WITH THE COUNTY OR THE STATE THEN WE SHOULD BE OKAY WITH IT. AND I KNOW THE OTHER ISSUE BECAME THAT THERE WERE RESIDENCES THAT SAID IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT WATER THEN CONVERT THE SEPTIC TO SEWER SO THAT WAS IN THAT WHOLE DISCUSSION OF I DON'T WANT THE WATER, I DON'T WANT THE SEPTIC, I AM FINE WITH MY WELL. I AM FINE WITH MY SEPTIC. I AM FINE WITH MY WELL WATER SO THOSE HAVE BEEN THE CHALLENGES ACROSS THE TIMELINE AT LEAST FOR ME FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. PROBABLY EVEN LONGER THAN THAT. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE PEOPLE OVER HERE TODAY WANTED BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT IT AT ALL. SO I AM JUST POINTING THAT

OUT. >> OKAY. AS THE MERE MENTIONED ON SEPTEMBER 18TH, THERE IS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION ON THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY. BROWARD COUNTY'S MASTER PLAN FOR INTEGRATED INNOVATIVE AND SUSTAINABLE REGIONAL SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT. IT IS GOING TO BE IN LAUDERHILL AND VETERANS PARK. AGAIN, THE TIME IS FROM 6 TO 8. THERE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME BREAKOUT SESSIONS TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS . MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT FOR THOSE THAT CAN'T MAKE IT, IT WILL BE AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY SO IF YOU ARE NOT THERE TO ATTEND, AT LEAST YOU MAY BE ABLE TO HEAR IT. TO THAT POINT, THERE IS ALSO GOING TO BE A MEETING ON FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 27TH , TO ELECT A NEW EXECUTIVE BOARD ON THE GOVERNMENT BOARD. SO THE VICE MAYOR, I BELIEVE YOU ARE THE ALTERNATE CELL, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT --

>>

TO PASS THE BATON. >>

>> INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, THAT IS THE TIME TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT OR YOU WANT TO DO, WHICH I THINK FOR US IS CERTAINLY A BENEFIT. I KNOW JACKIE IS THERE SPENDING HER TIME, YOU KNOW, ANALYZING THINGS THAT GO ON BUT IT IS GREAT TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE. AND KEEPING IN LINE I GUESS WITH SOLID WASTE, I GOT MY 96 GALLON TRASH BIN TODAY.

IT IS BEAUTIFUL. >>

>> NO, IT IS BEAUTIFUL. IT CAME ON A FLATBED AND THEY KIND OF HANDED OUT. I KIND OF SEND A MESSAGE TO BARBARA AND TOM AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PARKLAND. WE HAD EXPECTATIONS.

I AM SURPRISED IT DIDN'T GET DELIVERED BECAUSE THEY PUT IT AT THE END OF THE DRIVEWAY IT DIDN'T GET DELIVERED COUNTRY OR SERVICE TO MY GARAGE. BUT AGAIN I HAD SOME RESIDENTS QUESTIONING LIKE WHAT DO THEY DO WITH THEIR GARBAGE CAN BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I SPOKE TO TOM HE SAID WE ARE GOING TO GET 30% OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE AND PUT IT OUT WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR RECYCLING -- NOT THEIR RECYCLING, WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR BULK PICKUP BUT WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS ASSURED AT -- AT LEAST ME -- THAT THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE EVERY EFFORT IF SOMEBODY DOES NOT GO WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME TO PICK IT UP TO CLEAR THE STREETS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT THAT DEBRIS LYING DOWN NOR DO HOAS OR OTHER RESIDENTS. THAT IS SOMETHING AGAIN YOU CAN USE IT IF YOU HAVE IT TODAY. YOU CAN USE IT STARTING TODAY. SO AS SOON AS YOU GET IT, YOU CAN USE IT ENDS COME THE LAST WEEK OF THE MONTH, BUT OUT YOUR GARBAGE CAN AND YOU ARE DONE. SO WITHOUT

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COMMENTS. >> GREAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. VICE MAYOR ISROW.

>> NOW I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL. THIS IS TOUGH. I JUST WANT TO START BY THINKING NANCY AND JACKIE BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY TWO MEETINGS AGO I BROUGHT UP THE CONCERN THAT WAS ACTUALLY SHARED BY ME OF HERON HEIGHTS ABOUT THE BUS LOOP AND THE NEED FOR A POTENTIAL CROSSING GUARD OR ADDITIONAL CROSSING GUARD. AND WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME OF THE MONTH, IT WENT FROM IDENTITY IDENTIFYING A PROBLEM , RAISING THE ISSUE AT A COMMISSION MEETING, HAVING STAFF , JACKIE, WORKING VERY HARD ALONG WITH NANCY AND THE REST OF THE TEAM TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT, NUMBER ONE, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS AND TWO, PROBABLY THE BEST SOLUTION AND THEN, TO BE ABLE TO FIND A WAY TO FUND IT ALL WITHIN LITERALLY NET LESS THAN TWO MONTHS IS A PRETTY INCREDIBLE THING . I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ANALYZE THAT BECAUSE IT IS A COOL THING TO SEE. THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID TONIGHT AND, MAYOR, I THINK YOU'RE WORTH REALLY POIGNANT AND WELL STATED. I WON'T REITERATE IT TOO MUCH BUT I THINK EVERYONE CAN AGREE, YOU KNOW, 23 YEARS REMOVED THAT DESPITE THAT, IT STILL FEELS LIKE ALMOST YESTERDAY AND THERE WAS THIS SENSE OF UNITY AND THIS SENSE OF I WILL CALL IT PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER OTHERWISE IN A WORLD WHERE NO ONE START TO SEE THIS IT DIFFERENCES AND THE SIMILARITIES AND AS HARD AS IT IS EVERY YEAR TO BE REMINDED OF 9/11, IF THERE IS EVER A SILVER LINING, I THINK IT IS THE REMINDER OF HOW IT IS POSSIBLE FOR US TO STILL BE A UNITED NATION AND TO NOT NECESSARILY TREAT OUR FELLOW CITIZENS AS ENEMIES AND RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER AND THERE MAY BE EXTERNAL FORCES OUTSIDE OF OUR BORDERS THAT MAY NOT AGREE WITH US AND FEEL THE SAME WAY, BUT YET HERE IN AMERICA, WE ALL SHOULD AND COULD GET ALONG. YOU KNOW, THE GOLDEN RULE THAT I IMPRESS UPON MY KIDS, TREAT OTHERS HOW YOU WANT TO BE TREATED IS SUCH A SIMPLE CONCEPT BUT SEEMINGLY BECOMING MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT IN EXECUTION AND I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY BUT I THINK A LOT OF THAT IS, MAYOR TO YOUR POINT, IT COMES DOWN TO PARENTS AND BEING ABLE TO MAKE SURE IT STARTS AT HOME.

SO, IN ADDITION TO JUST KIND OF GIVING A RECOGNITION TO FIRST RESPONDERS AND EVERYONE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES ON 9/11 THAT WERE AFFECTED, I THINK IT WAS REALLY SPECIAL TONIGHT TO EVEN HEAR FROM CHIEF MOSIER WHO IS HERE TO OBVIOUSLY GIVE ANSWERS AND HELP CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE RANCHES, BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING YOU SAID THAT WAS REALLY WORTH REPEATING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A DEFENSIVE APPROACH BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ONE IN THE BUILDING, BUT HAD BEEN SOMEONE THERE, THE TEAM WOULD HAVE GONE IN THERE AND RISKED THEIR LIVES TO RESCUE THEM. THAT IS A PRETTY INCREDIBLE THING FOR HIM TO SAY AND JUST TO SAY IT, HE MEANS IT. AND I THINK ALL OF US SHOULD KNOW NOT ONLY CHIEF MOSIER BUT THE DEPARTMENT WILL ENOUGH KNOW THAT THAT IS COMING FROM A REAL PLACE. ALL THAT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I WILL SUM IT UP TO SAY THAT FOR EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON IN OUR WORLD AND HOW CRAZY OUR COUNTRY IS WITH POLITICS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, THESE ARE THOSE MOMENTS THAT YOU REMEMBER THAT WE ARE ALL HERE FOR THE SAME REASON TO LIVE A GOOD LIFE, ENJOY IT, AND HOPEFULLY PASS IT ON TO SOMEWHERE BETTER THAN WE FOUND IT TO THE NEXT GENERATION. FOR WHATEVER IT IS WORTH, THOSE KINDS OF REMINDERS ARE IMPORTANT AND I THINK SOLDIER RUSH IS THE PERFECT SEGUE. AN EVENT THAT IS INTENDED TO BENEFIT VETERANS AND FIRST RESPONDERS. SO FOR ANYONE WHO HASN'T SIGNED UP, THIS SATURDAY, PLEASE DO IT NOW. IT IS A GREAT EVENT. I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MY FELLOW FINANCIAL AUDITOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, DANIEL SHACKMAN, ANTHONY DEMEO AND CHRIS JOHNSON. I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I AM PROBABLY THE LEAST OF THE EXPERTS OF THE COMMITTEE. I WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH THE COMMITMENT OF THESE MEMBERS, DANIEL AND ANTHONY MADE THE REAL DESIRE TO DIG AND WAS REALLY NICE AND I ALSO HAVE TO GIVE A REALLY BIG SHADOW TO JILL WOODS. THE PURCHASING MANAGER WHO ALSO DID AN AMAZING JOB OF HELPING TO WHAT IS TREAT IT. DO A LOT OF WORK TO GET US TO THE PLACE WE ARE AT AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THEIR ACKNOWLEDGMENT. PERIOD ¿, OCTOBER 18TH FOR ANYONE WHO HAS NOT SIGNED UP. PLEASE SIGN UP.

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HERON BAY. SIMEON. PLEASE SEND ALL THE REGARDS. HERON BAY DID AN CREDIBLE JOB AS A GUIDE TO DO MY NEXT PARTY OR WHOEVER YOUR GUYS EVENTS PLANNER IS IS SPECTACULAR BUT IT WAS NICE TO SEE EVERYONE DOING SOMETHING FUN AND ENJOYABLE. IT IS THOSE LITTLE THINGS AND OF COURSE LAST BUT NOT CERTAINLY LEASED, A VERY BIG CONGRATS TO YOU, COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN, NOT JUST ON YOUR FLORIDA LEGAL CITIES AWARD BUT NOW PALES IN COMPARISON TO YOUR HEROIC RESCUING OF A FLAT TIRE. THANK YOU FOR JUMPING INTO ACTION AND THAT IS ALL I GOT.

[7. Proclamations and Recognitions]

>> OKAY. VERY GOOD, EVERYONE. SO LET'S GET DOWN TO THE WELL.

WE HAVE THE SUICIDE PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH. YEAH. AND WE APOLOGIZE THAT YOU WERE HERE LONGER THAN YOU PROBABLY

ANTICIPATED. >>

>> CAN I HAVE JOYCE COME ON DOWN? YEAH. JOYCE. FORGIVE ME.

HI THERE. >>

SPEAKERS ] >> THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK

YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> WHEREAS THE CITY OF PARKLAND CITY COMMISSION IS FROM THE COMMITTED TO RAISING AWARENESS ABOUT SUICIDE PREVENTION IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND OF BROWARD COUNTY AND WHEREAS IN 2023, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SUICIDES HIT AN ALL-TIME HIGH OF 50,000 ACCORDING TO THE CENTERS OF DISEASE CONTROL PREVENTION. IN PERSON FOR THAT, A PERSON DIES BY SUICIDE AND WHEREAS SOUP WAS THAT IS THE SECOND LEADING CAUSE FOR CHILDREN, ADOLESCENTS AND YOUNG ADULTS AGES 10 TO 20 YEARS. WHERE IT IS CRITICAL TO RECOGNIZE THE SIGNS OF DEPRESSION THAT MAY LEAD TO THOUGHTS OF SUICIDE INCLUDING SPEAKING ABOUT WANTING TO DIE , FEELINGS OF ISOLATION OR HOPELESSNESS, INCREASED USE OF DRUGS OR ALCOHOL AND SEVERE MOOD SWINGS. AND WHEREAS SUICIDE PREVENTION METHODS INCLUDE ASKING IF THE PERSON IS THINKING OF TAKING THEIR LIFE, KEEPING THEM SAFE AND REMOVING THEIR ACCESS TO LETHAL MEANS, AND GETTING THEM PROFESSIONAL HELP, IN FLORIDA, DIAL 988 OR CALL THE NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION LIFELINE, ONE, 800, 273, 8255 OR YOU CAN TEXT 741-741. AND WHEREAS THE LEGAL SEVEN VOTERS FOR BROWARD COUNTY HAS PROVIDED SIGNIFICANT LEADERSHIP TO SUICIDE PREVENTION THROUGH COMMITTEE EDUCATION . AND WHEREAS THE LEAGUE BELIEVES THEY ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF GUN SUICIDES REPORTEDLY WENT DOWN 10% IN BROWARD IN THE PAST YEAR EVEN WHILE THEY HAVE GONE UP IN MOST OF THE COUNTRY. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT MAYOR RICH WALKER AND THE CITY OF PARKLAND COMMISSION THERE HEREBY PROCLAIM NATIONAL SUICIDE PREPAREDNESS MONTH. AND THIS IS FOR YOU.

>> BEHALF OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF BROWARD AND THE FLORIDA CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR RECOGNIZING SUICIDE PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH AND, AGAIN, AS ALREADY STATED OVER 50,000 AMERICANS DIE BY SUICIDE EACH YEAR AND HALF OF THEM BY FIREARM. SO, INCREASED ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND LOCKING UP GUNS SAVES LIVES. SO, ANYONE WHO WANTS A FREE GUN LOCK MAILED TO THEIR HOME CAN EMAIL GLORIA GLORIA.LEWIS@VA.GO V . AND THEN AGAIN THERE IS A NEW NUMBER THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, 9884 MENTAL HEALTH CRISES. OKAY. THANK YOU.

>>

>> I HAVE TO READ THIS? >>

>> PROCLAMATION OF ELECTION. I, RICHARD WALKER -- IS THE FIRST TIME I USED RICHARD BUT THAT IS OKAY -- ANYWAY, I, RICHARD W

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THAT'S IT. >>

>> ALL RIGHT. >>

>>

SPEAKERS ] >> CONSENT AGENDA. NO, WAIT.

[8. Approval of the Agenda]

APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COMMISSIONER

MAYERSOHN. SECONDED BY -- >> I WOULD JUST LIKE YOU TAKE THE COMMISSION CALENDAR OFF THE AGENDA OR OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. I HAVE SOME CONFLICTS WITH SOME DATES. I'M HAPPY TO WORK THROUGH THOSE WITH NANCY AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING OR OFF LINE AND THEN SEE IF WE CAN COME BACK AND SPEAK THOSE DATES BUT I KNOW I HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE NOVEMBER 6 DATE AND A

COUPLE OF OTHERS. >> CAN WE JUST APPROVE IT FOR TONIGHT AND THEN YOU WORK OFF-LINE WITH NANCY AND THEN WE

CAN ALWAYS REVISE IT? >> I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT.

>> OKAY. IS THAT GOOD WITH EVERYBODY? THAT WAY, WE CAN GET

[9. Consent Agenda]

>> SOUNDS GOOD. >> ALL RIGHT. COOL.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. CONSENT AGENDA.

>> SECOND. >> SO HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN COMMISSIONER CUTLER AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN. DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENTAGENDA? NO? ROLL CALL.

>> COMMISSIONER BRIER? >> SUBJECT TO MY DAY ISSUES,

YES. >> COMMISSIONER CUTLER.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN.

>> YES AND I WANT TO THANK VICE MAYOR ISROW FOR SERVING ON THE

COMMITTEE. >> THANK YOU.

>> AS WELL AS THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED.

>> AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR NOMINATING ME.

[10. Regular Agenda]

>>

WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE. >> VICE MAYOR ISROW.

>> YES. >> MAYOR WALKER.

>> YES. >> ANTHONY, TAKE IT AWAY.

>> AND ORDINANCE TO THE CITY COMMISSION, AMENDING THE CITY DEPARTMENT -- CITY OF PARKLAND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, BY AMENDING ARTICLE 95 "LANDSCAPING AND VEGETATION" TO RESTRUCTURE THE ARTICLE, MODIFY EXISTING REGULATIONS, ADD NEW REGULATIONS, AND RELOCATE EXISTING FENCE AND WALL STANDARDS TOEFFECTIVE DATE.

>> AND THIS IS A SECOND READING.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE MAYOR ISROW IN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CUTLER.

>> ROLL CALL? >> COMMISSIONER CUTLER.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BRIER.

>> YES. VICE MAYOR ISROW. >> YES. MAYOR WALKER.

>> YES. >> A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA, APPROVING A WORK AUTHORIZATION WITH P.H. CONSULTING SERVICES, INC. FOR PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPE PLANS EXAMINER AND INSPECTION RELATED SERVICES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> WE HAVE A SECOND? ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? SEEING THAT THERE IS NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CUTLER.

>> COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN. >> YES. COMMISSIONER BRIER.

>> YES. >> VICE MAYOR ISROW.

>> YES. COMMISSIONER CUTLER. >> YES. MAYOR WALKER.

>> YES. I WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

>> WE HAVE RESOLUTION 2024-069. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA, APPROVING A WORK AUTHORIZATION WITH COMPLETE CITIES PLANNING GROUP, LLC FOR PLANNING DIRECTOR SERVICES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXC EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER

CUTLER. >> COMMISSIONER BRIER?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CUTLER.

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>> YES. COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN.

>> YES. VICE MAYOR ISROW. >> YES. MAYOR WALKER. YES. THIS

PASSAGE IMMENSELY. >> RESOLUTION 2024-070 MILLAGE IN THE PARK COMMERCIAL LU P.A. AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS CONTINUING SERVICES. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING COMPLETE CITIES PLANNING GROUP, LLC TO PROVIDE CONTINUING SERVICES PERTAINING TO THE COMMERCIAL LAND USE PLAN FFECTIVE AND LAND DEVELOPMENT DATE.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? SEEING AS THERE IS NONE, MOTION BY VICE MAYOR ISROW AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER

MAYERSOHN. ROLL CALL. >> COMMISSIONER CUTLER.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BRIER.

>> YES. >> VICE MAYOR ISROW.

>> YES. >> MAYOR WALKER.

>> YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. I JUST WANT TO SAY, CAITLIN, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. YOU BRING BACK IS FANTASTIC AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF PARKLAND AND I KNOW I AM SAYING THAT FOR ALL OF US, NOT JUST ME BECAUSE YOU DO A FANTASTIC JOB SO --

>>

>> ITEM 10 E. RESOLUTION 2024-033. ABANDONMENT OF REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS 2024-03 PROFESSIONAL DESIGN SERVICES PINETREE ESTATES ROADWAYS RESURFACING PROJECT. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA APPROVING THE ABANDONMENT OF RFQ 2024-03 PRIOR TO COMPLETING NEGOTIATIONS WITH KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES, INC., PROVIDING FOR EXECUTION; PROVIDING FOR

EFFECTIVE DATE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THIS. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COMMISSION. I WANT TO DISCUSS THE RFQ QUALIFICATIONS FOR 2024-03. THIS IS FOR THE DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE PINETREE ESTATES ROADWAYS. LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. WE SHOULD REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS BACK IN FEBRUARY 5TH. INTERVIEWS WERE HELD ON MARCH 19TH AND FIRMS WERE SELECTED RANKING KINLEY-WORN AS THE HIGHLY RANKING CONSULTING COMPANY.

THEY APPROVED THE RANKING AND AUTHORIZE TO PUSH IT WITH KIMBERLY HORN. AND BASED ON THOSE NEGOTIATIONS, THE CITY AND KIMLEY WORN CANNOT REACH AN AGREEMENT. WE CANNOT REACH AN AGREEMENT BECAUSE AN ALTERNATIVE METHODOLOGY WAS RECOGNIZED FOR THE ROADWAYS. WHICH IS CALLED FDR WHICH PROVIDES ADVANTAGES FOR THE CITY. FDR WAS PRESENTED TO THE CLASS ACTION GROUP AND WE MET WITH THEM NUMEROUS TIMES TO DISCUSS THIS NEW TYPE OF METHODOLOGY AND SPOKE TO THEM.

AND DUE TO SIGNIFICANT SCOPE CHANGE BASED ON THIS FDR FROM THE PREVIOUS RFQ WHICH HAD RECONSTRUCTION IS THE BEST INTEREST IN THE CITY TO ABANDON THE CURRENT RFQ . IN THIS FUTURE ITEM WILL BE BROUGHT FORTH FROM COMMISSION CONSIDERATION OF THE FDR PROCESS AND STAFF SEEKS APPROVAL TO ABANDON THIS CURRENT RFQ.

>> SO, I JUST WANT TO SAY AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS THE GUY WHO WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE MILLAGE RATE? WHAT WAS HIS

NAME? ANTHONY? >> ALLEN.

>> ALLEN. WE GET SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE STAFF SO I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT JUNIOR ENGINEER RICHARD BASHIANI , DID I GET THAT RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THIS DIFFERENT METHOD THAT WE ARE USING IS GOING TO SAVE THE RESIDENCE OF PINETREE EIGHT -- POTENTIALLY A POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY WHEN WE REDO THE ROADS AND IT IS BECAUSE OF THE EFFORTS OF OUR STAFF THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO THIS AND THEY DO THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND EVERY SITUATION AND IT ALLOWS US TO KEEP OUR MILLAGE RATE CONSTANT AND STEADY. SO I WANT TO THINK NOT JUST RICHARD BUT EVERYONE FOR WORKING TOGETHER AND CONTINUALLY FINDING SOLUTIONS TO SAVE RESIDENCE MONEY, TO KEEP OUR MILLAGE RATE, TO FIND INNOVATIVE IDEAS AND HOW TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS SO, THANK YOU GUYS ALL VERY, VERY MUCH. IT IS MUCH APPRECIATED.

>> THANK YOU. >> RUSSIANS FROM ALEX? ALEX?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> THE ONLY THING I WANT TO ENSURE IS THAT -- AND OBVIOUSLY, AS PUTTING INFORMATION OUT THERE BUT, YOU KNOW, I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH NANCY. OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE CITY CODE THAT SAYS ABANDONMENT AND I JUST DON'T WANTED TO GET THAT WE ARE ABANDONING THE PROJECT ONE RESIDENTS MAY SEE THIS. AS WE CAN GET THE INFORMATION OUT THAT WE ARE STILL GOING

[02:20:01]

PUT IT IN WEEKLY . >> I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE MORE COMMUNICATION BUT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU DID GO OVER THIS PROCESS

WITH RESIDENCE -- >>

SPEAKERS ] >> BUT THAT IS NOT --

>> I AM NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU AT ALL. WE HAVE COMMUNICATED TO THE RESIDENTS THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD BUT WE ARE DOING A DIFFERENT PROCESS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS AND THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE -- THREE PEOPLE.

ONE THAT DIDN'T KNOW AND NOW YOU DO. THERE YOU GO. SO YOU CAN SPREAD THE WORD ALSO BUT YES, WE COULD ALWAYS DO MORE COMMUNICATION BUT WE DID WORK WITH THE -- I GET IT. I GET IT.

>> WE HAD A MOTION BY -- >> I SECONDED IT.

>>

>> ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? >>

>> IF YOU WANT TO TALK, YEAH. >> LISTEN, I AM NOT CHANGING

FLAT TIRES TONIGHT. >> SASHA HOLDEN. REGARDING THIS, WE WERE NOT INFORMED. I KNOW YOU SAID MARJORIE NAILS.

THAT IS GREAT MARJORIE KNOWS BUT THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS DO NOT KNOW AND WHAT IS THIS NEW INNOVATIVE PROCESS? WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS. WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT POTENTIAL COSTS IS IT -- WE ARE STILL NOT FAR IN THE

PROCESS. >> IT IS GOING TO BE CHEAPER,

YES. >> JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS CHEAPER DOES NOT MAKE IT BETTER SO I WANT TO LOOK AT A LONG-TERM THING. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS DONE AND REPAVING WORLDS OR REBUILDING HOWEVER WE LOOK AT THIS WITHIN THE CITY BEFORE. THIS IS A METHOD THAT WE USED BEFORE AND SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO USE GOING FORWARD.

>> IT CAN BE USED EVERYWHERE. THIS AREA FITS THAT ROLE. WE COULD GO INTO MORE DETAIL LATER BUT IT WILL BE A COST BENEFIT FOR THE RESIDENTS AND AS FAR AS LONGTIME DURABILITY, --

>> BECAUSE WE ARE ULTIMATELY PAYING FOR IT, RIGHT? EVEN IF THE CITY IS INTERVENING, WE ARE ULTIMATELY PAYING AS WELL.

>> WE CAN GET WITH SOLONDAE --

>>

>> DO NOT HEAR ABOUT IT NOW IS KIND OF FRUSTRATING. YOU KNOW?

>> ME JUST A MINUTE. I JUST WANT TO LIKE BREAKDOWN THE NEW PROCESS FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WERE LISTENING. THE RECLAMATION PROCESS IS A PROCESS WHERE THE EXISTING BASE FOR THE ROADWAY IS POLARIZED, RECYCLED, AND IT IS MIXED AND THEY ADD NEW CONCRETE AND NEW ASPHALT TO CREATE A NEW STABILIZED BASE. THAT BASE HAS TO MEET THE EXACT REQUIREMENTS THAT ANOTHER BASE WOULD MEET THAT IS NEWLY PAVED IN ANY ROADWAY. THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF THE STRENGTH OF THE ROADWAY REMAINS THE SAME. YOU MENTION A GREAT POINT EARLIER ABOUT A CANDIDATE FOR THIS PROCESS. THE REASON WHY THESE ROADS ARE CANDIDATE FOR THE PROCESS IS BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE ACTUAL BASE OF THE ROADWAY. IF WE HAVE A ROADWAY FOR INSTANCE LIKE UNIVERSITY DRIVE, OUR REHABILITATION WOULD JUST BE TO MILL THE EXISTING ROADWAY AND THEN WE WOULD RESURFACE SAID ROADWAY. SO NEEDS YOU SCARIFY OR REMOVE THE FIRST HALF INCH TO EIGHT INCH OF A ROADWAY AND THEN YOU REPAVE HALF INCH OR AN INCH OF A ROADWAY OF A NEW PAVEMENT SECTION SO FOR PINETREE, WE ARE ACTUALLY ABLE TO RECYCLE THE EXISTING MATERIAL , UTILIZE IT, MIX IT WITH CONCRETE AND ASPHALT AND CREATE A NEW BASE AND ONCE THAT BASE IS LAID AND IT IS COMPACTED AND WE PUT NEW PAVEMENT ON TOP OF THAT BASE MATERIAL. SO JUST A QUICK EXPLANATION.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO TO COMMISSIONER MAYOR SINCE POINT, WE CAN TRY TO MAYBE DO A TEAMS MEETING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND INVITE THE RESIDENTS OF THE RANCHES SO WE CAN KIND OF JUST GO OVER THE PROCESS.

>> PINETREE. >> PINETREE.

>> UNDERSTOOD. >>

>> WE TOLD MARJORIE. SHE IS THE ONE THAT COMPLAINS THE MOST.

>>

>> GOT YOU. WE'RE ON IT. YOU HEARD COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN.

WE'RE ON IT. >> HELLO. KAREN HOGAN. JUST A SUGGESTION. RON BERGERON IT LIVES IN OUR COMMUNITY. HE IS THE ONE WHO BUILT 599 DIVERSITY 97. I DON'T KNOW IF THE BID HAS BEEN GIVEN OUT TO HIM BUT HE HAS BEEN A GREAT RESOURCE.

>> HE HAS A GONE OUT TO RFP YET. SO, THANK YOU. DID WE GET MOTIONS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT IS RIGHT. PUBLIC. ANYBODY ELSE?

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OKAY. ROLL CALL. >> COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BRIER.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CUTLER.

>> YES. >> VICE MAYOR ISROW.

>> YES. >> MAYOR WALKER.

>> YES. >> A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA, APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO CONTRACT NO. REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) 2019-05 WITH ASHBRITT, INC., APPROVING THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE S RANKING FOR RFP NO. 2024-04, AND AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASING DIRECTOR TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH THE TOP-RANKED PROPOSER, CROWDER-GULF JOINT VENTURE, INC., FOR DISASTER DEBRIS MANAGEMENT AND REMOVAL SERVICES; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS AND AN EFFECTIVE

DATE. >> MOVE.

>>

>> SECOND. >> ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? WE HAVEA MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN. SECONDED BY

COMMISSIONER CUTLER. ROLL CALL. >> COMMISSIONER BRIER.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER CUTLER.

>> YES. COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN.

>> YES. VICE MAYOR ISROW. >> YES. MAYOR WALKER.

>> YES. >> A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA, APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO CONTRACT NO. REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) 2019-06 WITH TETRATECH, APPROVING THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE S RANKING FOR RFP NO. 2EFFECTIVE

DATE . >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CUTLER. THEY GOT ALL THE MOTIONS DOWN THERE.

>>

>> ROLL CALL. >> COMMISSIONER CUTLER.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BRIER.

>> YES. VICE MAYOR ISROW. >> YES.

>> MAYOR WALKER. >> YES.

>> ORDINANCE 2024-012: SPEED DETECTION SYSTEMS FOR ENFORCEMENT OF SCHOOL ZONE SPEED LIMITS. SECOND READING.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA, AMENDING ARTICLE I "IN GENERAL" OF CHAPTEREFFECTIVE DATE.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> AND THEN JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS IS THE SECOND READING. WE ARE ONLY MAKING THE ORDINANCE TO ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD SPEED DETECTION. WE ARE NOT ACTUALLY DOING -- ADDING THE SPEED ENFORCEMENT TOOLS. YET HERE JUST THE ORDINANCE.

>> SECOND. >> SORRY. FOR YOU VOTE, AS MUCH AS I WANT TO GO HOME AND SEE THE DOLPHINS GAME AS WELL, I DO THINK MY ADVICE TO YOU WOULD BE TO LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION ON THIS ONE BECAUSE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PRESENTED WITH THE FINDINGS AT THIS HEARING TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION THAT THERE IS A HEIGHTENED RISK AT THE SUBJECT'S SCHOOL SPEED

ZONES. >> OH.

>> I KNOW YOU HAVE HEARD THIS DATA AT PREVIOUS WORKSHOP THAT

IS MY RECOMMENDATION. >> WELL, IF MY CITY ATTORNEY RECOMMENDS THAT WE LISTEN, WE WILL LISTEN.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> VERY GOOD. GOOD EVENING, MANNY COMMISSIONERS. CAPTAIN RICARDO FOR THE RECORD. WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS THE SCHOOL SPEED ZONE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM BASICALLY FLORIDA STATE STATUES AUTHORIZES THE MUNICIPALITIES TO INSTALL A CONTRACT WITH THE VENDOR. THE SPEED DETECTION SYSTEM. AND IT ALSO REQUIRES YOU TO AN ACTIVE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY. ESSENTIALLY, OTHER REQUIREMENTS INCLUDE NOTIFYING THE PUBLIC THROUGH SIGNAGE REQUIREMENTS AND WE DO SO IN THE DESIGNATED SCHOOL ZONE AND WE ALSO HAVE TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN OR AT LEAST 30 DAYS BEFORE COMMENCING THE ENFORCEMENT. HERE ARE THE RESULTS OF THE SPEED STUDIES AND YOU CAN SEE, WE UTILIZE TWO COMPANIES , READ SPEED. THEY DID STUDIES FOR THREE DIFFERENT DAYS AND THEN, WE USED TWO MET FOR FEBRUARY 20TH, 2024. CAN

YOU SEE THE NUMBERS? >>

SPEAKERS ] >> AM I CORRECT THAT THE NSID

ALL IN THE SAME AREA? >> BASICALLY, WHEN READ SPEED CAME OUT, THEY PUT THEIR SPEED CAMERAS WHERE THEY WANTED TO PUT THEIR SPEED CAMERAS. AND THEN, WHEN THE SECOND COMPANY CAME OUT, EXECUTIVE LIEUTENANT TOLD THEM WHERE TO PUT THEIR SPEED CAMERAS, SO WE WOULD GET A MORE ACCURATE DEPICTION.

>> WHEN YOU SAY MORE ACCURATE, THAT IS A DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT NUMBER. LIKE, TO ME, THERE IS A FLAW IN THE STUDY.

ON ONE OR THE OTHER. THERE HAS TO BE. I ALWAYS SAY THAT

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TALKING -- >> THEY WEREN'T IN THE SAME

SPOT. >> I MEAN, HOW FAR? YOU ARE WITHIN A CERTAIN VICINITY SO, IF I PUT THE CAMERA OVER ON THEIR WAY OVER THERE, I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS

THE DISTINCTION. >> SO, WE NOTICED WHEN WE WERE IN THE AREA THAT WE PUT THE CAMERAS RIGHT WHERE THE SCHOOL SPEED ZONE STARTED SO, AS PEOPLE WERE SLOWING DOWN.

>> WHERE IT STARTS IS RIGHT OFF THE RAMP. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IT STARTS THERE BECAUSE YOU ARE JUST GETTING ON --

>> BUT THE OTHER. EVEN HERRON HEIGHTS, YOU HAVE THREE TIMES THE SIZE. MY ONLY POINT IS IF THE CAMERA WAS PUT RIGHT WHERE THE SCHOOL ZONE STARTS, TECHNICALLY THAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PART. YOU WOULD THINK YOU WERE TRYING TO STOP PEOPLE FROM SPEEDING RIGHT WHEN THE SCHOOL ZONE STARTS. I ONLY SAY THIS. I AM NOT HERE TO BELABOR IT BUT THAT IS A DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT DATA POINT THAT TO BE IN THE SAME PLACE AND BY TWO DIFFERENT TESTING COMPANIES LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST SAYING A DIFFERENCE OF LOCATION OF

CAMERA. >> BUT EVEN IF YOU THROW OUT -- I AM SORRY. EVEN IF YOU THROW OUT THE OUTLIERS, THE BIGGER OUTLIERS, YOU ARE STILL LOOKING AT HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BLASTING THROUGH SCHOOL ZONES.

>> I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. THE REASON WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO STILL UNDERSTAND THIS IS EVEN IF THERE ARE HUNDREDS, RIGHT, THE HUNDRED STILL HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF WHETHER IT IS AN ACCURATE STUDY. WE ARE ASSUMING NOW THAT THE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT BUT TO ME, TO HAVE THAT BIG OF A VARIANCE BETWEEN THE TWO DIFFERENT TESTS TELLS ME THERE

MIGHT BE SOMETHING -- >> I WON'T EVEN LOOK AT JANUARY 8TH. IF YOU LOOK AT THE 31ST THE FIRST AND THE 20TH, IT

IS MUCH, MUCH CLOSER. >> THESE ARE NOT INDEPENDENT COMPANIES DOING THE TESTING, RIGHT? THESE ARE COMPANIES THAT ALSO PROVIDE THE TICKETING SERVICE, RIGHT?

>> YOU MEAN THE ONES THAT ARE TRYING TO GET --

>> COMMISSIONER BRIER, YOU ARE RIGHT. THAT IS WHAT I AM

WORRIED ABOUT. >> THAT IS MY FIRST ISSUE. MY SECOND ISSUE IS IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AND CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, ARE THEY JUST MONITORING AND REPORTING ON FOLKS THAT ARE SPEEDING DURING THE SCHOOL ZONE OR DURING THE NONSCHOOL ZONE ACTIVITY TIMES OR IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOLS IN

GENERAL? >> SO, ESSENTIALLY, THEY ARE GETTING THE SPEED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DAY WHEN THE SCHOOL IS OPEN. RIGHT? DURING SCHOOL HOURS, THE SCHOOL LIMIT IS 50 MILES AN HOUR AND OBVIOUSLY, THE SPEED LIMIT GOES UP AFTERWARDS SO ACTUALLY THE ENTIRE TIME THE SCHOOL IS OPEN FOR AN HOUR THE SCHOOL IS OPEN TO AN HOUR AFTER THE SCHOOL CLOSES, THEY ARE COLLECTING THE SPEED DATA AND IT WAS SET TO 15 MILES PER HOUR AND OVER IS WHAT THEY WERE CAPTURING.

>> BUT TO VICE MAYOR ISROW'S POINT, I THINK FOR ME, THIS JUST REINFORCES THE SKEPTICISM OF THIS PROCESS AND TAKING A MORE PATIENT PROCESS BECAUSE WELL WE CAN THROW OUT THE OUTLIERS OR THE HIGHEST AMOUNT, YOU WOULD THINK THERE WOULD BE SOME PATTERN OR SOME REPETITION WITH REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, FOLKS SPEEDING IN A CERTAIN ZONE AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY AND TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND THESE ARE PRETTY STARK DIFFERENCES BETWEEN, A, THE TWO COMPANIES AND B, EVEN THE DATES. AND SO, --

>> WELL, JUST TO CLARIFY AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CLEAR. ALL WE ARE DOING TONIGHT IS MAKING THE ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THERE IS AN ISSUE. WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY PICKING ANYONE AND WE'RE NOT EVEN SAYING WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS. SO, WHILE YOU GUYS ARE ALL RIGHT, I WILL JUST SAY, THIS WILL BE FURTHER THOUGHT WHEN WE -- IF WE DECIDE TO GO FURTHER, WE WOULD WANT BETTER CLARIFICATION AND THOSE TYPES OF STUDIES IF WE DECIDE

-- >> MY MOTION TO APPROVE IT. IT WAS ANTHONY'S IDEA TO REVIEW THE DATA. ANOTHER WAY REVIEWING IT NOW, ALL I'M SAYING IS IF IT WAS TESTED THROUGHOUT THE

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NOT SCHOOL ZONE TIME. >> YOU, AS THE COMMISSION, CAN DECIDE ULTIMATELY WHEN YOU IMPLEMENT THE SYSTEM WHERE YOU WANT THE CITATIONS TO START IN TERMS OF THE SPEED. SO, WE CHOSE 15 MILES PER HOUR AND THAT IS WHAT THEY DID THE STUDY

ON. >> BUT I THINK VICE MAYOR'S POINT IS IF YOU DRIVE BY THE SCHOOL IN A NON-SPEED ZONE TIME PERIOD AND YOU ARE DOING 26 MILES AN HOUR OR 30 MILES AN HOUR, YOU MAY NOT BE SPEEDING.

>> SO, WHEN THE SPEED LIMITS AS TO 15 MILES PER HOUR, THEY ARE GOING TO BE SPEEDING OFF OF THAT BASE NEED AND WHEN SCHOOL IS NOT IN SESSION, IT WILL GO BACK TO THE POSTED SCHOOL LIMIT, WHETHER IT IS 40 MILES PER HOUR OR WHATEVER IT IS AND THEN THEY WORK OFF OF THAT SPEED.

>> OKAY. SO THESE NUMBERS JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THE DATA POINTS, THESE NUMBERS ARE FOLKS WHO ARE SPEEDING REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT IS DURING SCHOOL ZONE OR JUST THE POSTED SPEED

LIMIT IN NONSCHOOL ZONE TIMES? >> IT IS THE ENTIRE'S DATE OF THE SCHOOL IS OPEN. IT STARTS IN OUR BEFORE THE SCHOOL OPENS TO AN HOUR AFTER THE SCHOOL CLOSES.

>>

>> MAYBE IT IS MY CONFUSION. TO SAY THAT THEY SAID IT TO TEST AT THE SPEED OF 15 MILES PER HOUR? IF SOMEONE GOES OVER 50 MILES PER HOUR OR THEY HAD TO BE GOING OVER THE SPEED LIMIT AT THAT TIME BY 15 MILES PER HOUR OVER THE SPEED LIMIT?

>> CORRECT. >> THAT IS MY CONFUSION. I STILL THINK THE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE OFF.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE, I WOULD PROBABLY SAVE MARY -- IF ANYTHING, THAT IS INACCURATE BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, WHEN PEOPLE COME OFF THAT RAMP AND GO THROUGH THERE, THEY ARE GOING 40/50 MILES PER HOUR. IF YOU PUT IT AT THE BEGINNING

THERE, -- >> GUYS, I THINK YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO WHAT THE CRITERIA IS UNDER THE RULE HERE SO THAT ANTHONY HAS GOT THAT OUT. JUST SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR

NEEDS ARE HERE. >> GOING TO TELL US MORE THINGS TO DO? I THOUGHT WE WERE IN CHARGE?

>> YOU CERTAINLY ARE. YOU ARE FREE TO LISTEN TO IT AND FOLLOW

IT OR NOT. >>

>> I JUST WANTED TO READ FROM YOU ONE OF THE PROVISIONS BEFORE YOU WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE STATUTE WHICH IS PURSUANT TO SECTION 316.0084 STATUTES, THIS IS COMMISSION CONSIDERS TRAFFIC DATA INSTALLATION AND OPERATION OF EACH PROPOSED SCHOOL ZONE SPEED DETECTION SYSTEM INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE SPEED STUDY DATA PRESENTED AT YOUR STRATEGIC WORKSHOP , SEPTEMBER 12 2024. THAT IS TODAY AND THE SEED COMMISSION DETERMINED THAT ALL 11 SCHOOL ZONES CONSTITUTE A HIGH-END SAFETY RISK. INCLUDING PLACEMENT, INSULATION, SPEED DETECTION SYSTEMS OF SCHOOL ZONES SO IT IS THAT A TERMINATION OF THE HIGH-END SAFETY RISK AND YOUR REVIEW OF THE DATA . THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY WHICH IS WHY I SUGGESTED THAT THAT DATA BE PRESENTED TO YOU AGAIN.

I BELIEVE THE STATE LAW SAYS IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU WERE ACTUALLY MOVING TOWARD ENFORCEMENT, IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE TOWARDS ENFORCEMENT, YOU WOULD STILL NEED ANOTHER STEP BACK INTO THE ORDINANCE. YOU WOULD NEED TO STEP BACK INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE SERVICE PROVIDER TO DO SO. I BELIEVE IT IS 30 MINUTES BEFORE TO 30 MINUTES AFTER THE START OF THE REGULAR SCHEDULED

SCHOOL SESSION. >> I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT THERE IS A HIGH-END RISK. HOW GREAT THAT RISK IS IS SOMETHING WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT FURTHER WHETHER IT IS ADDITIONAL STUDIES OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT WE CAN DO THAT AT ANOTHER TIME BECAUSE TODAY, IT IS JUST TO IMPLEMENT

ORDINANCE. >> I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE SCHOOL ZONE STUDY THAT IS IN OUR BACKUP, ACCORDING TO RED SPEED, THEY SAID THEIR TRAFFIC STUDIES DEMONSTRATED MORE THAN -- NOT 15. SO, I DON'T KNOW.

>> NOT REALLY SURE. >> I MAY HAVE BEEN MISTAKEN ON

THAT. I AM NOT, YOU KNOW -- >>

SPEAKERS ] >> WE ARE NOT STARTING AT 16.

IF YOU ARE IN A POSTED SPEED ZONE WHERE IT IS 50 MILES PER HOUR, WE ARE NOT COUNTING SOMEONE TO GO 60 MILES AN HOUR

OR 60 MILES PER HOUR. >> ABOUT YOU WERE SAYING THEY WERE GOING 15 MILES PER HOUR OVER.

>> CORRECT. THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT THE CITIES THAT WE HAVE SPOKEN TO WHO HAVE ENACTED THESE CAMERA SYSTEMS, THAT IS THE BASE THAT THEY START AT.

ESSENTIALLY, THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION THEY MAKE TO THE CITIES. THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY HAVE MADE

[02:40:02]

>> I WOULD THINK WHETHER OR NOT WE SAY THESE ARE HIGH OR LOW OR WHATEVER IT IS, THERE CERTAINLY PRESENTS A HIGH-END RISK.

>> I AM IN AGREEMENT. >> I REDIRECT MY MOTION TO

APPROVE. >> I WILL SECOND MY MOTION.

>>

SPEAKERS ] >> HE WANTED TO WITHDRAW HIS MOTION BECAUSE HE WANTED TO LISTEN TO ANTHONY.

>> THAT IS TRUE. >> TECHNICALITY, I'M GOING TO GO WITH COMMISSIONER CUTLER AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN ON A TECHNICALITY FOR VICE MAYOR ISROW. WITHDRAWING

HIS ORIGINAL MOTION. >> YOU ARE GOING TO GET SICK OF ME SO I PROMISE NOT TO GIVE YOU A CITY ATTORNEY, TO MIKE BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT THE LAW SAYS UNDER THIS PROGRAM, YOU CAN'T TAKE THEM UNLESS THEY ARE AT LEAST 10 MILES OVER THE SPEED LIMIT. SO SOME CITIES OR PROVIDERS MAY HAVE GIVEN MORE THRESHOLD BEFORE THEY DO THAT. LIKE I HAVE SEEN IT WHERE -- BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO TO DETERMINE THAT TONIGHT.

>> ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? NO? OKAY. ROLL CALL.

>> COMMISSIONER MAYERSON? >> YES.

>> AND SINCE YOU ARE UP HERE, YOU MIGHT AS WELL GO AHEAD AND

[11. Comments by the Broward Sheriff's Office]

>> THANK YOU. JUST A VERY BRIEF COMMENT. REGARDING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE UNIT. THEY HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY BUSY. HIT THE GROUND MONEY RESPONDING TO THREATS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

SO FAR THE SCHOOL YEAR, THEY HAVE MADE NINE ARRESTS. THE YOUNGEST PERSON HAS BEEN 12 YEARS OLD. I JUST WANT TO REMIND PARENTS TO PLEASE TALK TO THEIR CHILDREN, THINK BEFORE YOU POST. YOU KNOW, THIS IS SERIOUS. IT IS NOT A JOKE. IT IS NOT A PRANK. OFTEN TIMES WHEN WE GO OUT AND MEET WITH THESE KIDS AND THEIR FAMILIES, THE FEEDBACK THAT WE ARE GETTING , IT IS JUST A JOKE. THEY DIDN'T REALLY MEAN IT BUT IT IS NOT A JOKE. WE TAKE IT EXTERNALLY SERIOUSY AND OBVIOUSLY, WE ACT ON ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVE IN ORDER TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE. SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND REMIND PARENTS TO PLEASE TALK TO THEIR KIDS ABOUT

IT. >> I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS VERY MUCH. ACTUALLY HAD THAT ON MY NOTES TO MENTION BUT WITH BARRY AND MAXINE AND EVERYBODY, I GOT A LITTLE SIDETRACKED BUT THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. IT IS VERY, VERY SERIOUS BECAUSE PARENTS THEN QUESTION IF THEY SHOULD SEND THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL. IT DISRUPTS THE DAYS AND VERY TROUBLING. BUT THANK YOU, BSO FOR WORKING THROUGH THAT. CORAL SPRINGS? LOOKS LIKE

[12. Comments by the Coral Springs-Parkland Fire Department]

>> YOU DEFINITELY HAVE HEARD ENOUGH FROM YOU TODAY SO I WILL JUST GIVE YOU THE STATS FROM LAST MONTH. 150 MS CALLS AND FOUR FIRE CALLS, THAT IS NOT COUNTING THIS ONE FOR LAST

MONTH. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> I HAVE NOTHING ELSE. THANK YOU.

>> I THINK WE HAVE ALL SAID IT TODAY AND ALSO FOR BSL, THANK YOU IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. YOU GUYS ARE FANTASTIC.

>> ABSOLUTELY. COMMENTS BY THE CITY MANAGER?

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY. >> AND YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO

SPEAK. >> NO COMMENT.

>> MOTION

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.