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>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. ARE WE ON? OKAY, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS. OKAY. I DO NOT WANT YOU GUYS TO BE THE FIRST TIME THAT I USE THE GAVEL. THANK YOU. ANYWAY, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR CITY COMMISSION FOR THE CITY APARTMENT ON WEDNESDAY, MAY 15TH, AT 7:00 P.M. TO ORDER. PLEASE RISE FOR
THE PLEDGE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
CALLED ] >> RUNNING A MINUTE BEHIND, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
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WE SHOULD HAVE A FULL HOUSE. HE SHOULD BE HERE ANY MINUTE. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRIER AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MEYERSOHN. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? THESE SHOW IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. IF
[5. Comments from the Public on Non-Agenda Items]
ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. FEEL FREE. IF NOT, WE WILL GO TO THE COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER CUTLER?>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. HELLO, EVERYBODY. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A FULL HOUSE TODAY. I WILL START OFF WITH THIS. ON MAY 4TH, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE BRIER LEAGUE OF CITIES GALA. I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS A SPECIAL CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR VERY OWN COMMISSIONER BOB MAYERSOHN, SITTING NEXT TO ME, WHO RECEIVED THE LEAGUE'S HIGHEST RANKED LEADERSHIP AWARD. THE PRESIDENTIAL AWARD. HE HAS MADE ALL OF US PARK LENDERS PROUD.
HE DESERVES A HAND. IN MY DISTRICT, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE CYPRUS HAD DEVELOPMENT FOR THE OPENING OF THEIR NEWLY DEVELOPED CLUBHOUSE. THEY HAD A SPECTACULAR GRAND OPENING FOR THE RESIDENCE ON SATURDAY NIGHT. AND THE FACILITY LOOKS AMAZING. I ATTENDED THE NORTHWEST COUNCIL OF ELECTED OFFICIALS LUNCH IN COCONUT CREEK ON MONDAY. AND JACKSON AT TSD PRESENTED A SUMMARY OF THE 2024 LEGISLATIVE SESSION. I WANTED TO POINT OUT TO THE PUBLIC THAT HOUSE BILL 1133 PASSED UNANIMOUSLY IN THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE. ENDED UP WITH VIOLATIONS AGAINST VULNERABLE ROAD USERS. IT REQUIRES PERSONS WHO COMMIT INFRACTIONS THAT CAUSE SERIOUS BODILY INJURY TO, OR DEATH, OF VULNERABLE ROAD USERS, TO PAY SPECIFIC PENALTIES, WHICH ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. AND IT INVOLVES SUSPENSION OF DRIVER'S LICENSES, ET CETERA. VULNERABLE ROAD USERS ARE DEFINED TO INCLUDE PEDESTRIANS, PERSONS WRITING ANIMALS, WHICH WE HAVE HERE IN PARKLAND, HORSES, AND PERSONS LAWFULLY OPERATING BICYCLES AND OTHER SPECIFIED EQUIPMENT ON THE ROADWAY AND OTHER SPECIFIED LOCATIONS. THAT SAME SESSION ALSO INCREASED PENALTIES FOR MOTOR VEHICLE RACING. WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG DRIVERS OUT THERE. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS, AND PEOPLE AND ANIMALS. I WANT TO REINFORCE THE IDEA THAT WE CONTINUE TO DRIVE SAFELY IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE MAKE SURE TO BE VERY CAREFUL. THERE ARE SOME VERY STRICT PENALTIES FOR NOT DOING THAT. WE HAVE CREATIVE ARTS NIGHT COMING UP ON MAY 17TH AT RIVER GLADES TO SUPPORT THE PTA AND ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO. ALWAYS A SUPER EVENT WITH SO MANY TALENTED ARTISTS. IT IS A REALLY NEAT, CREATIVE NIGHT WHERE THEY DISPLAY STUDENT ART ALL OVER THE SCHOOL. YOU GET A MEET THE MASTERS EXHIBITION, A STUDENT TALENT SHOW, ET CETERA. THEY DO ALL KINDS OF RUFFLES FOOD TRUCKS, ET CETERA. IT IS A GREAT EVENT. I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO OUT TO THAT. WE WILL HAVE THE STATE OF THE CITY ON MAY 22ND, WHICH WILL BE FANTASTIC. I KNOW THE MAYOR AND SOME OTHER COMMISSIONERS WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. THIS MORNING, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE UNVEILING OF THE CORAL SPRINGS PUBLIC SAFETY MEMORIAL. IT WAS A VERY BEAUTIFUL CEREMONY WITH A REALLY GREAT NEW MEMORIAL THAT
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THEY HAVE NOW ERECT DID TO COMMEMORATE THOSE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES IN SERVICE. FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE OFFICERS, FIREMEN, AND ALSO DISPATCHERS WHO HAVE DONE SO MUCH FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO KEEP US SAFE. IT WAS REALLY A VERY TOUCHING EVENT. I WAS GLAD I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND. MY LAST BIT OF BUSINESS, I WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW, OR TO AT LEAST BRING BACK TO YOUR ATTENTION THE IDEA THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE DEMOLISHING THE BUILDING AT MSD. THE 1200 BUILDING. MY WIFE IS A SCHOOLTEACHER THERE. SHE SAID THAT THESE SUPERINTENDENT WAS AT THE SCHOOL TODAY SPEAKING TO THE STAFF ABOUT IT. AND THEIR PLAN IS TO IMMEDIATELY, LIKE, THE DAY AFTER SCHOOL IS OUT WHEN EVERYBODY IS GONE, TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT WILL MEAN A LOT OF NOISE, IT WILL POTENTIALLY MEAN SOME CONSTRUCTION-TYPE TRAFFIC. IT WILL MEAN, POTENTIALLY , THINGS THAT ARE NOT NORMAL IN OUR COMMUNITY. LOTS OF POTENTIAL DUST, PERHAPS , OR SOME OTHER THINGS. I WANT YOU TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF IT AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT THE BUILDING FINALLY COMES DOWN AFTER SIX YEARS NOW. AND SO, AGAIN, WE ASK YOU TO BEAR WITH THAT AND TO TELL YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS ABOUT IT. THAT IS COMING AND IT COULD TAKE A WILD FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. THEY MAY BE WORKING SEVEN DAYS A WORK -- WE, ON WEEKENDS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY WANT TO BE READY FOR WHEN SCHOOL STARTS AGAIN. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND.MAYOR, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONER
CUTLER. COMMISSIONER MEYERSOHN? >> AND ONE OTHER THING. --
>> I'M SORRY. WE MAY ACTUALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO GET THE WORD OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE ON
THAT ISSUE SO THAT EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF IT. >> ARE YOU DONE, COMMISSIONER CUTLER? COMMISSIONER CUTLER, THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THE HONOR THAT I WAS BESTOWED UPON.
IT IS A GREAT HONOR TO BE RECOGNIZED BY YOUR PEERS AT THE BROWARD LEAGUE OF CITIES.
OBVIOUSLY, SERVING AS PRESIDENT DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY. THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU GUYS. THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING OUT AND SUPPORTING, AS WELL AS THE STUFF THAT CAME OUT TO SUPPORT. A COUPLE OF THINGS. TWO WEEKS AGO, OR LAST WEEK, IT WAS TEACHER APPRECIATION WEEK. AND I HAVE TO JUST SAY THIS. THE PRINCIPAL AT RIVER GLADES, MRS. SELTZER. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT KNOW, BAKES OVER 300 CUPCAKES. THEY'RE NOT JUST CUPCAKES, THEY ARE ICED, DECORATED, DIFFERENT VARIETIES. SHE HAD A NEW ONE THIS YEAR, A POPCORN CUP CAKE. I MEAN, SHE NOT ONLY GIVES IT OUT TO HER STAFF, BUT ALSO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. SO I HAD THE DUAL HONOR TO SHARE SOME OF THOSE CUPCAKES. SOME ARE IN HERE. BUT WE DID BRING SOME TO PSO, TO THE STAFF HERE, AS WELL AS TO STATION 42. THE REST OF THE STATIONS DID NOT GET ANY. BUT, YOU KNOW, STATION 42 GOT THEM. AGAIN, IT IS AMAZING. I JUST WANTED TO PUBLICLY THANK HER, THANK HER STAFF, AND THINK ALL OF THESE SCHOOLS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE TEACHERS FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. NEXT WEEK IS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK. SO WE WILL BE, I GUESS, HONORING OUR PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE. AGAIN, THEY DO A GREAT JOB OUT THERE IN THE PARKS. THE ROADWAYS. MAKING SURE WE ARE UP TO DATE.
JUST FOR EVERYBODY, JUNE 1ST IS THE FIRST OF THE SALES TAX HOLIDAYS FROM THE STATE. IT IS FROM JUNE 1ST TO JUNE 14TH. THAT TWO WEEKS IS DISASTER PREPAREDNESS WEEK. IF YOU ARE OUT THERE GETTING YOUR BATTERIES OR FLASHLIGHT, IT IS TIME TO STOCK UP BECAUSE THERE IS NO SALES TAX. AND THEN THERE IS ALSO, AGAIN, IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, THERE IS ANOTHER TWO WEEK PERIOD. BUT IF YOU WANT TO GET THE TWO FIRST WEEKS IN, IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. THIS MONTH IS JEWISH HERITAGE AMERICAN MONTH. IT IS A TIME THAT WE HONOR JEWISH AMERICANS WHO HAVE NEVER GIVEN UP ON THE PROMISE OF OUR NATION. WE CELEBRATE THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS,
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CULTURE, AND VALUES THEY HAVE PASSED DOWN FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION. AND THEY HAVE SHAPED WHO WE ARE AS AMERICANS. WE REMEMBER THAT THE POWER LIES WITHIN EACH OF US TO RISE TOGETHER AGAINST EIGHT. WE DEFINITELY HAVE A RISE IN ANTI-SEMITISM, TO SEE EACH OTHER AS FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS, AND TO ENSURE THAT THE JEWISH COMMUNITY IS AFFORDED SAFETY, SECURITY, AND DIGNITY THAT THEY DESERVE, TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO SHINE THE LIGHT IN AMERICA AND AROUND THE WORLD. I BRING THIS UP, AND I KNOW WE ARE HAVING A PROCLAMATION TONIGHT ON AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH. I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES IF THEY WOULD SUPPORT A PROCLAMATION JUST FOR JEWISH HERITAGE MONTH, THAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO PRESENT NEXT MONDAY TO THE JEWISH FEDERATION. I DON'T KNOW. I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU WOULD ALL SUPPORT THAT. SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS. I AM JUST ASKING. YOU CAN LET NANCY KNOW INDIVIDUALLY, OR WHATEVER. THE OTHER THING THAT I DO WANT TO BRING UP, I KNOW I ALREADY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE TODAY REGARDING OCHS ROAD. IT SEEMS THAT AS DISAPPOINTING AS IT IS, AND AS WE ALL ARE, THERE IS SOME POSSIBLE HOPE FOR LOCKS ROAD, FOR FT OT TO MANAGE THEIR TIME WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME THEY ARE LOOKING AT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I DO JUST WANT TO BRING UP, NANCY, YOU KNOW, AS WE DO MORE OF THESE THINGS, I WILL CALL THEM INTERGOVERNMENTAL, OR VARIOUS ENTITIES, THAT WE INCLUDE ALL, WHETHER IT IS LEGISLATIVE, CONNECTIONS, OR WHATEVER WE HAVE IN THE MIX AS WE MOVE FORWARD, SOMETIMES PEOPLE GET ON AT THE LAST MINUTE. YOU KNOW, AND WE DO NOT NECESSARILY INCLUDE THEM, POSSIBLY, IN CONVERSATIONS WE ARE HAVING. SO I JUST THINK IT IS IMPORTANT, WHETHER IT BE THE CONGRESSMAN'S OFFICE OR REPRESENTATIVE TCHOTCHKE, POLSKY, WHOEVER ELSE IT MAY BE, THAT WE INCLUDE THEM WHEN THESE PROJECTS START SO THAT IF THE TIME COMES WHERE WE NEED THEIR HELP AND SUPPORT, WE ARE ABLETO GET THAT. AND I BELIEVE THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER BRIER? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY. THANK YOU TO ALL THE SPECIAL MOMS OUT THERE FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. I DO NOT WANT TO REPEAT EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID, I DO WANT TO CONGRATULATE COMMISSIONER MEYERSOHN, AND I ECHO THE COMMENTS OF OMISSION OR CUTLER. FOR THOSE THAT KNOW, AND EVEN FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW, COMMISSIONER MEYERSOHN HAS EMBODIED A TRUE PUBLIC SERVANT. AND WHAT HE GIVES NOT ONLY TO THE COMMUNITY OF PARKLAND, SACRIFICING HIS TIME AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR THE ONTO THE BROWARD LEAGUE OF CITIES HAS BEEN IMMEASURABLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO . A VERY PRESTIGIOUS HONOR, AND WELL-DESERVED.
>> I WOULD TAKE ANOTHER ROUND OF APPLAUSE, IF YOU WOULD.
>> IT IS HIS UNABASHEDLY HUMILITY THAT I AM MOST PROUD OF. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR STATE OF THE CITY ON MAY 22ND. WE HAVE OUR HOME FOR DOGS EVENT, THERE IS ALSO A CAR WASH GOING ON AT MARJORY STONEMAN DOUGLAS SATURDAY MORNING. IF YOU WANT YOUR CAR WASHED AT A CHEAP PRICE BY GREAT KIDS, GO OUT AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT. WE HAVE COFFEE WITH A COP COMING UP ON MAY 28TH AS WELL WITH BSO. I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND YESTERDAY'S RIBBON-CUTTING FOR THE NEW SUSHI AND HIBACHI RESTAURANT IN CORAL RIDGE. O CFO EXCITED TO HAVE THEM AS OUR NEIGHBORS. I ALSO HAD THE BENEFIT OF EARLIER THIS WEEK SPEAKING WITH THE HLA PRESIDENTS COUNCIL, THE PARKLAND PRESIDENTS COUNCIL, SPEAKING WITH ALL THE HLA PRESIDENTS. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DEFINITELY VOLUNTEERS WHO SACRIFICE TIME AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILY TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITIES AND PARKLAND AS A WHOLE. WE TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF ISSUES. THEY ARE VERY MUCH ENGAGED AND INVOLVED IN TRYING TO BRING MESSAGES BACK TO THEIR RESIDENCE. SO THEY HAVE ASKED Ú PROJECTS LIKE LOCKS ROAD, THE ENTRANCE, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. I HAVE RELATE TO NANCY OR CITY MANAGER AS WELL AS THE CITY ATTORNEY THE COMMENTS THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THAT MEETING AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW UP WITH THEM AND THANK THEM FOR ALL THEIR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO BRING UP, THAT I WILL BRING UP WHEN WE GO FORWARD WITH THE AGENDA APPROVAL, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING, THE ISSUE REGARDING THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THEIR RECENT MEETING AND WORKSHOP. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A SCHOOL BOARD OVERSIGHT MEETING ON JUNE 5TH, WHICH WAS GOING TO FOLLOW THE WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOARDS RESIZING OR RIGHT SIZING, AND PLANS FOR THE DISTRICT, INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL DISCUSSION ABOUT A
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POSSIBLE SALE OF LAND. TWO PARCELS IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD OWNS.THAT MAY BE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. I WILL ADDRESS IT WHEN WE BRING UP OUR AGENDA APPROVAL. BUT I DO WANT TO ADD THAT TO OUR DISCUSSION. I CERTAINLY HAVE HAD MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH NOT ONLY OUR SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS, BUT I MET WITH THE PRIOR SUPERINTENDENT LICATA ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND I HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS. WITH THAT, MAYOR, I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENTS FOR THIS EVENING. THANK YOU.
>> THINK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER BRIER. VICE MAYOR IS ROW .
>> I ALMOST GOT MAYOR THERE FOR A SECOND. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY TO HAVE OUR YOUTH HERE YOU GET A TASTE OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOUR CITY, SO WELCOME. I WILL NOT BELABOR WHATEVER HAS BEEN SAID. IT IS HARD ENOUGH, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE FOR YOU TO GO LAST.
EVERY TIME. BUT I DO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, TONIGHT WE ARE DOING A PROCLAMATION ON HERITAGE MONTH. BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT, YOU LOOK AT THE CALENDAR COMING UP JEWISH HERITAGE MONTH, ASIAN-AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH AND PACIFIC ISLANDER AND HAITIAN MERITED HERITAGE MONTH, INDIAN HERITAGE MONTH, AND SOUTH ASIAN HERITAGE MONTH. AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THERE IS A DAY FOR WILD DIVERSITY. ALL OF THAT WITHIN ONE MONTH. WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT TO ME? IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE I AM JEWISH. I AM A PROUD JEWISH PERSON. I AM CELEBRATING ALL OF THESE AND HONORING THE HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE. BUT MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE ALL TOUCHED ON AS A COMMISSION. IT IS NOT ABOUT JUST WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOUR RELIGION IS, WE WERE FROM, WHAT YOUR BACKGROUND IS, YOUR ETHNICITY, YOUR SEXUAL ORIENTATION, WHATEVER MAY BE YOUR GENDER. THE POINT IS IT IS NOT HARD TO JUST BE A GOOD HUMAN BEING. AND ULTIMATELY, THAT IS ALL THAT ALL OF US SHOULD EXPECT FROM ONE ANOTHER.
IF YOU LOOK AROUND IN A ROOM AND IN OUR CITY, WE HAVE A VERY DIVERSE GROUP OF COMMUNITY. IT IS INCREDIBLE. THAT IS WHAT MAKES US WHO WE ARE. THAT IS WHAT MAKES PARKLAND GREAT PEER TO SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT ALL THAT HAS GONE ON POST OCTOBER 7TH IS VERY JUST CONCERNING, NOT JUST FOR MYSELF AS A JEWISH AMERICAN, BUT ALSO JUST AS AN AMERICAN. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN A MISSION BY THE COMBAT IN MY SEMITISM MOVEMENT BEGINNING IN JUNE. ON THE ONE HAND, I'M ACTUALLY VERY EAGER TO GO AND BE ABLE TO, HOPEFULLY, MAKE SOME SORT OF DENT IN THE UNIVERSE. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I AM CANDIDLY A LITTLE AFRAID. I DO NOT MEAN IT IN THE SENSE OF SAFETY, BUT ALSO WHAT TO EXPECT AND HOW THE WORLD IS EVOLVING AND WHERE IT IS GOING. IT IS ALL INCUMBENT ON ALL OF US AND THE YOUTH HERE. THIS IS YOUR FUTURE. YOU GUYS ARE SITTING AROUND WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE GROWN-UPS OF THE WORLD WILL BE DOING TO LEAVE FOR YOU, FOR THE NEXT GENERATION. HOPEFULLY ALL OF US, I KNOW I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT WE ARE ACTIVE IN READING AND TAKING THOSE ACTIONS THAT WILL PAVE THE WAY FOR A BETTER FUTURE. BUT THE REASON I SPEND SO MUCH TIME ON THIS, TRUTHFULLY, WE CAN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING. WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL BUILD A NEW PARK, WE CAN TALK ABOUT HERON BAY AND GOLF CARTS. SEEMINGLY A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC. BUT THE REALITY IS THAT WE HAVE THE LUXURY OF DEBATING THESE ISSUES THAT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS ARE NOT THAT IMPORTANT. SO NOT TO DISMISS IT OR TRY TO DOWNPLAY IT, BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT EVERYONE HERE ALL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY AND A RESPONSIBILITY TO PLAY A ROLL IN MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF US CONTINUE TO BUILD A BETTER FUTURE, A BETTER TOMORROW. A LOT OF THAT STARTS WITH JUST BEING A GOOD PERSON AND BEING BETTER TO YOUR NEIGHBORS. THAT IS ALL I'VE GOT FOR TONIGHT.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. AMAZING COMMENTS. AND I THINK YOU POINTED IT OUT PERFECTLY. WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGHOUT THIS ROOM, WE HAVE A FULL HOUSE HERE TODAY. IT IS VERY DIVERSE. AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT, AS YOU SAID, BEING A GOOD PERSON, THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. THE LEGACY YOU LEAVE BEHIND, THE WAY THAT YOU ACT, THE WAY PEOPLE THINK OF YOU AND THE WAY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT YOU, THE WAY PEOPLE DESCRIBE YOUR PERSONALITY, THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT. WHILE YOUR HERITAGE IS VERY IMPORTANT, I THINK HOW YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYTHING.
BECAUSE PEOPLE THAN ARE SEEING YOU AS PEOPLE. THAT IS WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. THAT YOU ARE A GOOD PERSON. YOU WANT TO BE SEEN AS A GOOD PERSON. WHETHER YOU ARE WHITE, BLACK, ASIAN,
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JEWISH, STRAIGHT, GAY, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU WANT TO BE SEEN AS THE PERSON DOING THE RIGHT THINGS. THE MORE YOU DO THAT, THE BETTER THE WORLD WILL BE. I THINK TODAY IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MORE OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS. BUT AGAIN, IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE THE RIGHT PERSON. AND AS COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, AS COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE THE LUXURY, AT ALL OF OUR MEETINGS, WE DO NOT ALWAYS HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE HERE. BUT WE GET TO RECOGNIZE THE YOUNG PEOPLE, THE OLD PEOPLE WHO DO SPECIAL THINGS. WE HAVE AN EARTH DAY RECOGNITION WE ARE GIVING, SPEECH AND DEBATE AT WEST GLADES, PARK AND POWER 12, WE HAVE THE AMERICAN CANCER, RELAY FOR LIFE . EVERY WEEK, WE HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. WE MAKE A POINT TO TRY TO BRING ALL GROUPS OF PEOPLE IN, WHATEVER IT IS. ATHLETICS, ACADEMIC, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING YOU DO AROUND THE COMMUNITY, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE LUXURIES OF BEING A LOCAL POLITICIAN. RIGHT? BECAUSE WE ARE NONPARTISAN. WE ARE JUST APPEAR TRYING TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY THE BEST COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN FIT WHEN YOU WAKE UP IN THE MORNING, YOU ARE SAFE AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EDUCATION. BIG SHOUT OUT TO HER TEACHERS WITH THE TEACHER APPRECIATION LAST WEEK. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SEPARATES PARKLAND IS OUR SCHOOLS. NOT ONLY IS THAT STUDENTS WHO GO THERE AND PARENTS WHO HELP, BUT IT IS OUR TEACHERS. OUR TEACHERS ARE PHENOMENAL. WE CANNOT THANK THEM ENOUGH. THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATORS, PARENTS, AND STUDENTS WHO ACT THE RIGHT WAY. AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO COMMISSIONER MEYERSOHN ON HIS AWARD. AND THOSE ARE -- OH, NO. THOSE ARE NOT THE END OF MY COMMENTS. TOMORROW IS MY WIFE'S BIRTHDAY. SO I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT I GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT. I KNOW SHE IS WATCHING. AND NOW SHE WILL TURN IT OFF. BECAUSE I DID NOT FORGET. I AM GOOD. I CAN GO HOME TONIGHT AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING SNEAKING UP BEHIND ME. BUT NO. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO TOMORROW. WE WILL SPEND THE NIGHT TOGETHER. AT THE KENNY CHESNEY CONCERT. SHE IS A BIG COUNTRY MUSIC FAN. SO I AM SACRIFICING. THESE ARE SOME OF THE SACRIFICES WE MAKE FOR OUR LOVED ONES. NO, JUST KIDDING COULD I DO LIKE COUNTRY MUSIC. I AM EXCITED TO GO AS WELL. BUT ANYWAY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY. YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW MY WIFE, SHE IS AMAZING. SHE ALLOWS ME TO BE WHO I AM AND DO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT I GET TO DO. SO IT IS AMAZING TO BE WITH HER. OUR ANNIVERSARY IS COMING UP. I THINK IT IS 23 YEARS, QUITE A LONG TIME. IS IT? OR 22. YEAH, WITH THAT , I OFTEN RAMBLE. AND I JUST START GOING IN A DIRECTION THAT NOBODY KNOWS .[6. Proclamations and Recognitions]
AND SOMETIMES I DO NOT KNOW WHERE I AM GOING EITHER. BUT THAT IS OKAY. WITH THAT, WE WILL GO TO PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND WE WILL START WITH WHOEVERWANTS TO GO FIRST. >> WEST GLADES MIDDLE SCHOOL SPEECH AND DEBATE TEAM. COME ON DOWN. COME ON DOWN. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS.
>> THE WHOLE SCHOOL IS HERE. >> READY? THE SPEECH AND DEBATE TEAM IS A GROUP OF 180 STUDENTS HAVE THE COURAGE NOT ONLY TO SPEAK PUBLICLY, BUT TO DO SO ROUND AFTER ROUND IN A HIGH-PRESSURE ENVIRONMENT. NOT ALL 130 ARE HERE THOUGH. IN MID APRIL, WEST GLADES RAISED MORE
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THAN $1000 AT THE FIRST EVER SPEECH AND DEBATE SHOWCASE. THOSE FUNDS WERE USED TO SEND 12/8 GRADERS TO THE STATE COMPETITION IN APOPKA. OF THAT GROUP, SIX STUDENTS ADVANCED TO EARN RANKINGS IN THEIR CHOSEN EVENT. INCLUDING THREE STUDENTS WHO RANKED SECOND AND THIRD IN TWO STUDENTS WHO WENT TO THE QUARTERFINALS. A FEW WEEKS AGO, 42 WEST LADY STUDENTS COMPLETED IN AN ALL-DAY DISTRICT CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT. IN THIS TOURNAMENT, TROPHIES WERE AWARDED FOR THE TOP SIX RANKED STUDENTS AND TEAMS IN EACH EVENT. THERE WERE FIVE ROUNDS OF COMPETITION, WHICH RAN FOR 8 HOURS. THAT IS A LONG TIME. WEST GLADES BROUGHT HOME 11 TROPHIES FROM DISTRICTS, INCLUDING THREE STUDENTS WHO PLACED FIRST IN THE CATEGORIES OF CONGRESSIONAL DEBATE. IF YOU ARE HERE, YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HANDS. CONGRESSIONAL DEBATE, 27, AND DRAMATIC INTERPRETATION TWO STUDENTS ALSO PLACED SECOND IN CATEGORIES OF IMPROMPTU AND INFORMATIVE SPEECH. THESE FORENSIC SPEAKERS ALSO PLACED IN THE LINKOUS DOUGLAS DEBATE FORMAT. AS WELL AS FOR POETRY AND PUBLIC FORM CATEGORIES. SPEECH AND DEBATE TEACHER BROOKE PAPPAS SAID, AND I QUOTE, SHE IS INCREDIBLY PROUD OF HER STUDENTS. EFFORTS AND ACHIEVEMENTS. SHE SAID ALL STUDENTS HIM AND STRAIGHT GREAT STAMINA AND DEDICATION THROUGH FIVE ROUNDS. THIS GROUP OF FORENSIC SPEAKERS HAS WORKED HARD THIS YEAR. WE WISH YOU THE BEST AS YOU BUILD UP UPON THE VALUES AND SKILL THROUGHOUT YOUR HIGH SCHOOL CAREERS. ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND CITY COMMISSION, CONGRATULATIONS TO WEST GLADES MIDDLE SCHOOL SPEECH AND DEBATE TEAM.>> ALL RIGHT. NOW WE WILL HAVE THE RELAY FOR LIFE,. COLE HUNTER GRACE, YOU CAN COME UP ALSO. ALL RIGHT. RELAY FOR LIFE OF PARK AND CORAL SPRINGS MARGATE, AND COCONUT CREEK.
RELAY FOR LIFE IS ONE OF THE LARGEST NONPROFIT FUNDRAISERS IN THE WORLD. AND ONE OF THE
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MOST COMMUNITY ORIENTED. AS THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY SIGNATURE PROGRAM, IT IS FUELED BY THE PASSION AND DEDICATION OF FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS, AND EVEN ITS NAME DEFINES THE TEAMWORK ASPECT OF THIS INCREDIBLE EFFORT. OUR LOCAL RELAY FOR LIFE OF PARKLAND, CORAL SPRINGS, MARGATE, AND COCONUT CREEK HAS TAKEN COMMUNITY AND SUPPORT TO A WHOLE NEW LEVEL. CHRIS FLETCHER HAS SHARED THAT HE COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS WORK WITHOUT HIS EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP TEAM OF PARKLAND RESIDENTS, AND WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF A DOZEN VOLUNTEERS, DOZENS OF VOLUNTEERS, WHO RAISE $130,000 THIS YEAR. THESE FUNDS ARE OFTEN THE BRIDGE THAT LOCAL PATIENTS NEED TO GET TO THE NEXT PAGE TREATMENT, TO HAVE RESOURCES TO RECEIVE THE MOST APPROPRIATE CARE AND RESEARCH THAT HELPS PATIENTS OVERCOME SEVERAL HEALTH CHALLENGES IN REAL TIME WHEN THEY NEED IT THE MOST. FUNDS RAISED ARE FOR PATIENT SERVICES, RESEARCH, INTEREST ROTATION DURING TREATMENT, AND FOR ROOM AND BOARD IF OUT-OF-TOWN TREATMENTS ARE NEEDED. AGAIN, EVENT LEADER AND PARKLAND RESIDENT CHRIS FLETCHER HAS HIS OWN INSPIRING STORY. HE IS ALSO A CANCER SURVIVOR. IS PASSION FOR THIS WORK -- SPRING BREAK YEAR, THE LARGEST ONE-DAY EVENT FOR THE CANCER SOCIETY. ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND COMMISSION, CONGRATULATIONS TO RELAY FOR LIFE OF CORAL SPRINGS, MARGATE, AND COCONUT CREEK, TO BENEFIT RESIDENTS NOT ONLY IN THE FIGHT AS WELL ASTHOSE WHO ARE SURVIVORS. THANK YOU AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY. WE WILL NOT TALK ABOUT THE EARTH DAY CONTEST WINNER, KAYLA LAUNDRY. KAYLA, COME ON DOWN. COME ON, KAYLA LONDEREE. YOU CAN DO IT. RIGHT HERE ON THE TABLE, THAT WOULD BE PERFECT. THAT IS GORGEOUS. WOW. GREAT JOB. A TRUE ARTIST CAN CREATE SOMETHING FROM ANYTHING. 14-YEAR-OLD KAYLA LONDEREE HAS PROVED THAT SHE IS INDEED AN ARTIST. KAYLA, A HOMESCHOOL STUDENT AT PARKLAND RESIDENT RECENTLY ENTERED A CONTEST SPONSORED BY SIERRA CLUB BROWARD, 5000 MEMBER CHAPTER OF ONE OF THE LARGEST ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCIES IN THE WORLD. USING PLASTIC WASTE MATERIALS, KAYLA BUILT ENVIRONMENT WITH FRIENDLY'S CULTURE -- SCULPTURE DEPICTING AN OCEAN SCENE, INCLUDING MEMBERS OF MARINE LIFE. THAT IS AWESOME. IS THAT IT OFTEN? AWESOME. EACH STUDENT WAS ASKED TO CREATE AN ART PIECE BASED ON WHAT THEY LEARNED ABOUT PLASTIC WASTE, AS WELL AS WRITE AN ESSAY ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE LEARNED. 24'S ESSAY IN OUR WORK WERE AWARDED SECOND-PLACE OF 17 ENTRIES. HER WORK WAS JUDGED BY A PANEL OF PROFESSIONAL ARTISTS, COMMUNITY LEADERS, AND BUSINESS EXECUTIVES. KAYLA'S CREATIVITY, ATTENTION TO DETAIL, AND CARE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT ARE SKILLS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BENEFIT NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF THE
PARKLAND CITY COMMISSION, CONGRATULATIONS TO KAYLA. >> THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT.
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LAST BUT NOT LEAST. SECOND TO LAST, BUT NOT LEAST. IT IS PROCLAMATION WHEREAS PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE, ETHNICITIES, RELIGIONS, BACKGROUNDS, NATIONALITIES AND BELIEF SYSTEMS REPRESENT THE GLOBAL TAPESTRY OF OUR LARGER WORLD AND LOCAL COMMUNITIES, AND ADD TO THE VALUE AND QUALITY OF HISTORY AND PEOPLE. WHERE THE CITY OF PARKLAND HAS ESTABLISHED DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION AS PART OF THE PARTY IN THE STRATEGIC ENVISIONING PLANS FOR THE 2024-2025 FISCAL YEAR. IT IS COMMITTED TO SOBRIETY AND VALUING HERITAGES AND HISTORIES OF ALL PEOPLE. AND WHEREAS WE VALUE THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND HISTORIES OF ALL ETHNICITIES, INCLUDING AFRICAN-AMERICANS, ASIAN AMERICANS, PACIFIC ISLANDERS, HISPANIC AND LATINO AMERICANS, NATIVE AMERICANS AND INDIGENOUS PEOPLES EUROPEAN AMERICANS, MIDDLE EASTERN AMERICANS, AND IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES FROM VARIOUS COUNTRIES, AND WERE AS WE VALUE THE HISTORIES OF PEOPLE FROM COUNTRIES IN DIFFERENT BACK GROUNDS. INCLUDING JEWISH, MUSLIM, AND HINDU COMMUNITIES. AND WHERE IS PARKLAND RESIDENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO DISCUSS, EXPLORE WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN ALL LEARN MORE ABOUT EACH OTHER, AND STRIVE TO BE INCLUSIVE AND BE GOOD NEIGHBORS TO ALL. AND WHERE IS THIS MONTH HOPES TO INSPIRE PARKLAND RESIDENT TO CELEBRATE THE DIVERSE CULTURES, BACKGROUNDS, NATIONALITIES, AND LIFESTYLES OF ALL PEOPLE TO SHOW APPRECIATION FOR AN INCLUSIVE AND SUPPORTIVE AMERICAN SOCIETY. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT MAYOR RICH WALKER AND THE CITY OF PARKLAND COMMISSION HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY AS AMERICANHERITAGE MONTH IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND. >> I WANTED TO DO THIS ONE BECAUSE I NEVER GOT TO HAND OUT RINGS BEFORE. I FEEL LIKE I AM THE NBA COMMISSIONER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT IS KIND OF EXCITING FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. GREAT IDEA.
THANK YOU. LET'S GET THE PARKLAND POWERED 2020 12 -- 2012. YOU GUYS WANT TO COME APPEAR? CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. NO, STAY APPEAR. CONGRATULATIONS. STAY UP THIS WAY. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. GREAT JOB. OKAY. IF YOU WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF PERSEVERANCE, ASK A MEMBER OF THE PARKLAND POWER 2012. A GIRLS TRAVEL SOFTBALL TEAM THAT PLAYS UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF PARKLAND SOFTBALL. WHEN THEY STARTED OUT AS NINE-YEAR-OLDS, THE TEAM MET CHALLENGES LEFT AND RIGHT AND HAD LITTLE SUCCESS. AT ONE POINT, THE TEAM WAS ONE OF THE LEAST SUCCESSFUL IN THE STATE. BUT IT TURNS OUT, THAT WAS NOT THE END OF THE STORY FOR THE WORKMAN POWER 20 2012, A GROUP OF NOW 11 AND 12-YEAR-OLDS. A LITTLE MORE THAN ONE YEAR LATER, THROUGH THE HARD WORK AND PERSEVERANCE, THESE YOUNG ATHLETES, THE SECOND TIER HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFERENT RESULTS. THE TEAM COMPLETED -- COMPETED IN A TOTAL OF 108 GAMES SECURING VICTORIES AND 10 TOURNAMENTS AND FINISHED IN THE TOP THREE SPOTS IN AN IMPRESSIVE 90% OF THE TOURNAMENTS THEY ENTERED.
HEAD COACH GUY MAGNOLIA SAID THAT WHAT THESE STUDENT ATHLETES ACCOMPLISHED LAST YEAR WAS AMAZING. THEIR DEDICATION, HARD WORK, AND COMMITMENT TO EACH OTHER PROPELLED THEM TO INCREDIBLE HEIGHT. THIS TEAM EXEMPLIFIES THE TRUE SPIRIT OF SPORTSMANSHIP, TEAMWORK, AND A NEVER GIVE UP MENTALITY. AND REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE PARKLAND POWER 2012 DID NOT STOP THERE. THE TEAM RECENTLY EARNED A PRESTIGIOUS TITLE OF BEING THE NUMBER ONE RANKED TEAM IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES IN THEIR DIVISION.
ADDITIONALLY, THEY GARNERED THE REMARKABLE DISTINCTION OF BEING RANKED AS THE NUMBER TWO TEAM NATIONALLY IN THEIR AGE DIVISION. THEY DID ALL OF THIS WHILE COMPETING IN A 10 A DIVISION, THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF COMPETITION IN THE UNITED STATES SPECIALTY SPORTS ASSOCIATION FAST PITCH. THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THIS TEAM HAS A SPECIAL BOND. THEY ARE ONE OF THE YOUNGEST TEAMS IN THEIR DIVISION, BUT THEY PLAY FOR EACH OTHER AND THEY EMBODIED
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SELFLESSNESS AND SPORTSMANSHIP ON AND OFF THE FIELD. ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND CITY COMMISSION, WE WISH PARKLAND POWER 2012 THE BEST OF THEIR TRANSITION INTO THE 12 YOUTH DIVISION. CONGRATULATIONS. WHERE IS AVERY? ABBY ANNA. DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? THERE YOU GO.ARIANNA. YES, THEY GET BOTH. GOLDIE. MADISON. OLIVIA. SELAH . DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? ALEX.
MIKA . AND AVERY. AND THEN WE'VE GOT TWO. DID YOU GUYS GET THEM? YEAH. ALL RIGHT.
CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN. LET'S GET UP THERE AND TAKE A PICTURE.
[7. Approval of the Agenda]
ALL RIGHT. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. ANYTHING COMMISSIONER BRIER WANTED TO ADD?>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND ADD DISCUSSION REGARDING THE SCHOOL BOARD POTENTIAL SALE OF THE PROPERTIES IN PARKLAND.
>> SECOND. >> I DO NOT HAVE AN ISSUE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
BUT SHOULD THIS BE A WORKSHOP ITEM? ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE NOT WATCHED THE WHOLE MEETING LAST NIGHT. I GOT THE GIST OF WHAT HAPPENED, BUT I DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY ON THE VOTE AND
EVERYTHING. I HAVE NOT HEARD ALL OF THE COMMENTS. >> MY ONLY CONCERN IS TIMING. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT BEING A WORKSHOP. BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE MAY BE DECISIONS MADE. WE WERE HOPING TO GET THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THIS JUNE 5TH MEETING THROUGH THE SCHOOL BOARD OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, AND THERE WERE EMAILS GOING BACK AND FORTH TODAY ABOUT THE
CANCELLATION OF THAT MEETING, AND CONCERNS. >> IS EVERYBODY OKAY TO
DISCUSS? WE WILL DISCUSS WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING. >> I THINK YOU AND I ARE PROBABLY ON THE SAME PAGE. WE WILL DISCUSS IT AT THE TIME THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE TO DISCUSS. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDED AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER BRIER
[8. Consent Agenda]
AND COMMISSIONER CUTLER. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CONSENT AGENDA.ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEE NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE MAYOR
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ISROW AND MAYOR WALKER.[9. Regular Agenda]
TAKE IT AWAY. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. ITEM 9A, CHARTER AMENDMENT SECOND READING. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND FLORIDA APPROVING CERTAIN AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY CHARTER SUBJECT TO VOTER APPROVAL CALLING FOR A REFERENDUM ELECTION ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY CHARTER TO BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024, PROVIDING THE MISSION TO THE ELECTORS FOR APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT, PROVIDING FOR NOTICE, PROVIDING FOR MATTERS IN CONFLICT
SEVERABILITY. >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE FOUR ITEMS THAT WE APPROVED FROM THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE WAS CLARIFICATION AND UPDATE OF THE CITY CHARTER, FREQUENCY AND TIMING OF THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS, 32 CALL SPECIAL MEETINGS, AND THEN TO CLARIFY 30 TO ACTUALLY EXECUTE DOCUMENTS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. JUST FOR CLARITY
PURPOSES. BUT THIS IS THE SECOND MEETING. ANY MOTIONS? >> A MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND. >> ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? SEE NON, WE HAVE A
MOTION BY VICE MAYOR IN 17. AND A SECOND? >>
>> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM 9B. ORDINANCE 2024-007. THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE WASTE MANAGEMENT FRANCHISE AGREEMENT, FIRST READING. AN ORDINANCE TO THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA , APPROVING THE THIRD AMENDED TO THE AMENDED AND RESTATED FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT INC. OF FLORIDA FOR THE COLLECTION AND REMOVAL OF REFUSE WITHIN CITY LIMITS, EXTENDING THE CURRENT FRANCHISE TERM FOR FIVE YEARS THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2029 AMENDING APPENDIX A, FRANCHISES, ARTICLE THREE, WASTE MANAGEMENT INC. OF FLORIDA OF THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR EXECUTION, CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. LUCAS HAS BEEN RUNNING FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS. LET ME GIVE YOU A RECAP OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES IN THIS CONTRACT. THE FIRST ITEM, AS MENTIONED, IS CONVERTING TO AUTOMATIC SIDE LOADER. THAT IS REFERRED TO AS ASL. THE SECOND ITEM IS RECEIVING 96 GALLON ROLLOUT CONTAINERS TO EACH RESIDENT. IF A RESIDENT WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL ROLLOUT CONTAINERS, THERE IS A ONE TIME FEE OF $100 PER CONTAINER. BUT THERE IS NO LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF CONTAINERS ONE PERSON CAN BUY. IF YOU WANTED, IF YOU HAD A LOT OF GARBAGE AND HE WANTED TO PURCHASE FIVE CONTAINERS, YOU WOULD SPEND $500 AND YOU WOULD GET SIX CONTAINERS. AND THEY ARE GOOD FOR THE LIFE. SO IT IS A ONE-TIME CHARGE OF $100 FOR AN ADDITIONAL CONTAINER. THEN WE ARE LOOKING AT A RESIDENTIAL RATE INCREASE. 6.9% RESIDENTIAL RATE INCREASE. AND FOR COMMERCIAL, THE INCREASE IS 15%. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT PUTTING A CAP ON THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX FOR GARBAGE AND TRASH NOT TO EXCEED ANY 5% IN ANY GIVEN YEAR. IF THE CPI GOES TO 6%, THE RATE CAN ONLY GO UP TO 5%. ALSO, WE WERE ABLE TO GET AN ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTION FOR OUR HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE OF $50,000. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO GOT AN ADDITIONAL $7500 FOR OUR COMMUNITY EVENT. SO ANNUALLY, WE WILL BE RECEIVING AN ADDITIONAL $57,500 FOR A TOTAL OF $92,500 FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT. AND THE LAST ITEM WAS AMENDING THE AGREEMENT FOR THE CITIES PART IN THE SOLID WASTE. AS YOU KNOW, THIS GROUP IS WORKING OUT TO DIRECT DISPOSAL ON WASTE IN DIFFERENT MANNERS. AND IF THAT HAPPENS, THIS CONTRACT COULD BE TERMINATED FOR DISPOSAL WITH NINE MONTHS NOTICE. THAT IS A GENERAL RECAP OF THE OVERALL CHANGES TO OUR CONTRACT. BUT AGAIN, THE BIGGEST CHANGES BEING AN AUTOMATIC SIDE LOADER. THIS EVENING, I HAD BARBARA HERRERA HERE, ALONG WITH HER EXECUTIVE TEAM AND OPERATIONAL TEAM TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
THAT THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE. PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM. >> I MEAN, I JUST WANT TO SAY,
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I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS DONE. IT CERTAINLY IS MY TERM ON THE COMMISSION. ANYTIME I TEXT BARBARA, WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS, SHE ALWAYS RESPONDS AND ALWAYS TAKES CARE OF THAT PROBLEM. 100% OF THE TIME. NOT EVEN 99%. 100%. THAT IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. WE WILL GET A TEXT, I'M SURE YOU GUYS ALL GET EMAILS AND TEXT MESSAGES ON SATURDAY OR WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, THEY DID NOT TAKE MY GARBAGE, WHATEVER. THE ONLY CONCERN, IT IS A CONCERN, BUT THE SIDE LOADER. THAT IS A HUGE CHANGE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT IS WHERE EVERYBODY IS GOING. SO THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING . WE'VE JUST REALLY GOT TO COMMUNICATE THAT OUT BIG-TIME TO OUR RESIDENTS.I AM SURE THERE WILL BE A LEARNING CURVE. YOU KNOW, IF WE DO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT. AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ANSWER ME NOW. I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LEARNING CURVE WILL THE RESIDENTS RECEIVE WHEN IT COMES TIME, YOU KNOW, TO START THIS TRANSITION.
OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TEACH THEM. BUT WE WILL HAVE TO COMMUNICATE TO RESIDENTS. BUT THERE WILL BE SOME LAG. OBVIOUSLY, WHILE THAT DUMPSTER IS LARGE, PALM FRONDS ARE AN ISSUE. I ASSUME THEY WOULD BE PICKED UP IN BULK OR WHATEVER. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, CAN THE TOPIC STAY OPEN? CAN PEOPLE FILL IT UP AND IF THE TOP IS OPEN THAT IS CONSIDERED OKAY? OR WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, THE INCREASE IS UNFORTUNATE. BUT THE WAY TYPES HAVE COME, I KNOW WASTE MANAGEMENT DID NOT GET THE INCREASE IS AS MUCH AS INFLATION HAS GONE UP OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. WE APPRECIATE WASTE MANAGEMENT STICKING TO THE CONTRACT. OBVIOUSLY THAT IS IMPORTANT. BUT THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF
QUESTIONS THAT I HAD, OR CONCERNS, SO TO SPEAK. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU. >> FIRST OF ALL, MAYOR, IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE AVAILABLE TO NOT ONLY YOU, BUT TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSION AND STAFF APPEAR BEFORE HE BEGAN, I KNOW THE MADAM CLERK NEEDS MY NAME. MY NAME IS BARBARA HERRERA. I AM THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS MANAGER FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT IN FLORIDA, ALSO KNOWN AS WIF. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MY TEAM WHO IS HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE A MIX HERE. A BIG CHUNK OF OUR LEADERS HERE IN FLORIDA LIVE IN PARKLAND. SO, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE DAVID MEEHAN, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF JUNE 25 OF FLORIDA. DAVID LIVES INHERENT BAY, TOM LIVES IN THE FOUR SEASONS. WE HAVE CHRIS KERRY. CHRIS IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND HE LIVES IN PARKLAND GOLF AND COUNTRY CLUB. I CANNOT BELIEVE I REMEMBERED ALL OF THAT. I ALSO HAVE OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM. WE HAVE LUIGI PACE, WHO IS MY MANAGER, HE IS ALSO THE AREA MANAGER FOR PUBLIC SECTOR SOLUTIONS. WE HAVE JOHN 220 HE MANAGES THE DISTRICT FOR THE SOUTHERN SANITATION SERVICES PARKLAND. NEXT TO HIM, WE HAVE THE CHAPMAN. CERTAINLY LAST BUT NOT LEAST. ZEKE IS THE ROUTE MANAGER. HE MANAGES ALL DRIVERS, HE MAKES SURE THE LOGISTICS TO PICK UP GARBAGE AND RECYCLING ARE DONE EVERY DAY HERE IN PARKLAND. SO ZEKE IS THE PERSON THAT -- THE MOST WITH PUBLIC WORKS, STAFF, AND ME. WHENEVER THERE IS AN ISSUE, I CALL THESE GENTLEMEN AND IT IS HANDLED RIGHT AWAY. AGAIN, MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH PRETTY BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF POINT, WHICH I KNOW CAN BE A CONCERN TO ANY CITY. THE TRANSITION TO A SIDELOAD SERVICE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE WHAT IS CALLED REAR LOAD SERVICE. RELOADED SERVICE HAS A DRIVER AND A HELPER IN THE BACK. AND THAT PERSON IN THE BACK IS THE ONE WHO GETS OFF THE TRUCK, PICKS UP THE GARBAGE, THROWS IT AWAY, JUMPS ON THE TRUCK, AND SO FORTH. AND THEN THEY GO DOWN. THAT REAR LOAD SERVICE, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, VERY DIFFICULT, OBVIOUSLY, WITH CONDITIONS IN SOUTH FLORIDA, IT IS VERY HARD TO FIND LABOR THAT WANTS TO DO THAT KIND OF REAR LOAD SERVICE. SO THE INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE IS MOVING TOWARDS AUTOMATED SIDELOAD SERVICE. AUTOMATED SIDELOAD SERVICE, THE ONLY DIFFERECE IS THAT IT USES A TRUCK THAT HAS AN AUTOMATED ARM AND IT STICKS OUT. THAT AUTOMATED ARM PICKS UP THE CAN, TIPS IT, AND PUT THE BOOK DOWN. THEN THEY GO ON TO THE NEXT
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HOUSE, SO ON AND SO FORTH. THE PERSON DOES THAT HAVE TO GET OUT OF THE CAB OF THE TRUCK. IT IS VERY EFFICIENT, VERY CLEAN. OF COURSE, WE WILL CONTINUE USING OUR TRUCKS THAT BURN CNG FUEL, WHICH IS COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS. IN THOSE DEFICIENCIES ARE PASSED ON TO THE CUSTOMER. YOU WANTED TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF LEARNING CURVE IS THERE. I COME TO YOU FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF EXPERIENCE. I'VE DONE THIS, AM ACTUALLY DOING IT RIGHT NOW WITH ANOTHER PARTNER CITY THAT WE HAVE, THE CITY OF LIGHTHOUSE POINT. THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF TRANSITIONING, JUST LIKE PARKLAND, FROM REAR LOAD SERVICE TO ASL SERVICE.THAT CONTRACT WILL START NOW ON JUNE 3RD. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I DID THE SAME THING WITH THE CITY OF SOUTHWEST RANCH. THEY HAD REAR SERVICE ANOTHER HAVE ASL. HOW DO WE GET THE MESSAGE OUT THERE? THAT IS SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY YOU AND THE MANAGERS AND COMMISSIONERS. IT IS NOT JUST ONE TYPE OF MESSAGING. WE DO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF MESSAGING TO MAKE SURE IT IS AS ROBUST, AS CRISP, AND AS CLEAN AS POSSIBLE. WHAT DO WE DO? WE DO DIRECT MAILERS TO THE HOMES, WE DO SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGNS, WE WILL PRODUCE A VIDEO FOR THE CITY OF PARK WENT. WE HAVE DONE SOMETHING SIMILAR JUST RECENTLY WITH WHITE HOUSE POINT COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT IF YOU WANT TO SEE. DO NOT MAKE FUN OF ME BECAUSE I SHOW UP IN THE VIDEO.
WE WILL GO BOOTS ON THE GROUND OR HEELS ON THE GROUND, HOWEVER YOU WANT, TO ANY EVENT, ANY AGE AWAY MEETING, AND WE WILL GET THE MESSAGE OUT. BETWEEN NOW, WHICH WE ARE IN MAY, AND OCTOBER 1ST, THERE IS AMPLE TIME TO NOT ONLY GET THE MESSAGE OUT, BUT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR, THERE WILL BE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER. I LIKE HAVING MY GARBAGE PICKED UP BY MY DRIVER. I KNOW MY DRIVER IS A GOOD MAN AND I WANT TO SAY HELLO TO HIM. HE IS WONDERFUL. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT NONE OF THE PARKLAND DRIVERS WILL BE FIRED. EVEN THOUGH WE WILL GO FROM TWO MEN ON A TRUCK TO ONE. THEY WILL BE REASSIGNED. BUT ONLY PARKLAND EXPERIENCED DRIVERS WILL BE SERVICING PARKLAND COME OCTOBER. AND WE WILL HAVE AN ENTIRE GROUP OF EXPERIENCED DRIVERS TO BACKUP THOSE DRIVERS. YOU HAVE PLENTY OF RESOURCES. YOUR SERVICE SCHEDULE WILL NOT CHANGE FOR THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT RESIDENTS WILL SEE IS, OKAY, THE CART WILL BE PROMOTED BY WASTE MANAGEMENT AND THE TRUCK.
>> COMMISSIONER CUTLER? >> I WANTED TO ECHO WHAT THE MAYOR SAID ABOUT YOUR ACCESSIBILITY AND YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. EVERY TIME I HAVE EVER TEXTED OR COMMUNICATED WITH YOU, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PLEASURE. I HOPE
YOUR TEAM KNOWS THAT THEY HAVE GOT YOU, AND YOU ARE GREAT. >> THANK YOU, SIR.
>> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FIRST, IN THE TRANSITIONAL PROCESS, ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS ASKED IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH OLD GARBAGE CANS? SO I THINK THAT MESSAGE NEEDS TO GO OUT. BECAUSE OTHERWISE, YOU WILL HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF GARBAGE CANS THAT WILL NOT BE USED FOR ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, ARE YOUR CREWS GOING TO PICK UP OLD GARBAGE CANS AND THROW THEM AWAY AS GARBAGE? WILL THEY GET RECYCLED? WHAT IS THE PROCESS
FOR THAT? THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST QUESTION I WOULD POSE. >> YES, SIR. A VERY COMMON QUESTION. IF THE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN PERSONAL CANS AND THEY WANT TO GET RID OF THEM,
LAY THEM ON THE SIDE AND THEY WILL BE PICKED UP IN BULK. >> THAT WOULD GO UP IN BULK?
>> YES BUT SOME PEOPLE CHOOSE TO KEEP THEM BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HAVE THEM. BUT WE WOULD BE
PICKING UP THE GARBAGE CAN PROVIDED FROM THE CITY. >> AND THE TRANSITIONAL PROCESS. IF SOMEONE WERE TO PUT OUT THE NEW CAN AND AN OLD CAN, BOTH FILLED WITH GARBAGE, WHAT
WILL HAPPEN TO THE OLD CAN FILLED WITH GARBAGE? >> I WILL ASK TOM RITTER TO COME UP. I WILL TELL YOU THAT DURING THE TRANSITION, THE TRANSITION OF THE TRANSITION .
WE RECOGNIZE THERE WILL BE A LEARNING CURVE DURING THOSE FEW WEEKS. I WILL LET TOM ANSWER YOU. AS I SAID, WE ARE LITERALLY GOING THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW WITH ANOTHER
MUNICIPALITY. >> TOM RITTER, I LIVE IN FOUR SEASONS. WE HAVE DONE THIS, IT IS AN EVOLUTION. MOST OF THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS GET IT. THERE ARE A FEW THAT TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. THE KNOWS HOW TO FOLLOW, HE HAS GONE TO TWO OR THREE CITIES. THE SPECIFIC QUESTION IS THAT IF THE OLD CAN IS OUT FULL OF TRASH IN THE NEW CAN IS OUT, THE FIRST COUPLE OF ROUNDS, WE WILL PICK IT UP BECAUSE IT IS TRASH, IT IS OUT THERE. BUT WE WILL COMMUNICATE TO THE CUSTOMER. LISTEN, NEXT TIME WE WILL NOT PICK IT UP. THIS TOOK US ONLY A COUPLE OF WEEKS IN SOUTHWEST RANCHES. THOSE FOLKS HAD REAR END LOADERS FOR A LONG TIME. WE
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FOLLOW THEM AND WE PICK EVERYTHING UP THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS. BUT IF WE ARE PICKING UP STUFF NOT IN THE GUIDELINES, WE LET THEM KNOW, HEY, EVENTUALLY WE WILL NOT PICK US UP. WE PARTNERED WITH THE CITIES. WE DO NOT HAVE TOO MUCH OF AN ISSUE, BUT IT IS ALEARNING CURVE, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. >> WHAT OTHER THINGS AM I MISSING ON THE LEARNING CURVE PROCESS? WHAT ARE SOME MAJOR PROBLEMS YOU ARE SEEING IN THIS
PROCESS? >> IT REALLY HAS NOT BEEN MUCH OF A MAJOR ISSUE. THAT HAS BEEN THE HIGHEST PRIORITY. BUT THERE IS A SECONDARY, WHERE SOME PEOPLE WILL JUST WANT TO KEEP THEIR OLD HEART. WHY CAN'T I USE THIS CART? AND THE ANSWER IS GENERALLY BECAUSE THE CARTS THAT WE ARE PUTTING OUT THERE, THEY ARE DESIGNED FOR 400,000 PICKUPS IN SO MANY YEARS. THE ONES THAT PEOPLE OWN, ON THE REAR END, THEY ARE NOT DESIGNED FOR AN ARM TO PICK IT UP. AND ALSO CONSISTENCY IN THE CITY. LIKE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU WANT THEM ALL TO BE THE SAME CAN PICK THAT IS THE SECONDARY THING. PEOPLE COME TO US AND THEY CAN KEEP MY OLD CAN TOO? ACTUALLY, THE ANSWER IS NO. USUALLY, IT IS THE CITY'S IDEA. BUT THAT IS IT, REALLY.
>> CURRENTLY, I HAVE TWO GARBAGE CANS, ONE IS A RECYCLING CAN AND THE OTHER IS GOING TO BE MY REGULAR GARBAGE STUFF. IS THAT GOING TO CONTINUE IN THIS CONTRACT, WITH
HAVING TWO DIFFERENT CANS FOR RECYCLING? >> YES. IN FACT, THEY ARE RIGHT
BEHIND ME. >> ONE YOU HAVE IS THE WHITE CAN OUT THERE. WE ARE HEADING
OF THE 96 GALLON, IT IS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. >> THE PUBLIC CANNOT SEE. THEY
BROUGHT PROPS. >> CAN YOU HOLD THEM UP FOR US, PLEASE?
>> ROLL THEM ON DOWN HERE AND WE WILL TAKE A LOOK. >> ROLL OUT THE BARREL.
>> WE DO NOT WANT YOU TO HAVE BROUGHT THEM FOR NOTHING. >> EXACTLY. WE HAVE TO LOOK THESE AROUND. THE RECYCLING CARS -- BRING THEM IN THE FRONT OF THE CAMERAS CAN PICK THEM UP. JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS CAN SEE IT. YES. SO THESE ARE WM GENERIC 96 CARTS. FOR CONTEXT, A 96 GALLON CART HOLDS ABOUT 713 GALLON BAGS. SEVEN 13 GALLON BAGS. IT WILL BE COLLECTED TWICE A WEEK. SO THAT IS 14 13 GALLON BAGS, OR THE EQUIVALENT OF A CUBIC
YARD OF GARBAGE PER HOME PER WEEK. >> WHILE THAT MAY SOUND LIKE A
LOT, SOMEONE WHO HAS FIVE CHILDREN -- >> LIKE WHO, MAYOR? BACK THERE, HE'S GOT SEVEN. YOU'VE GOT ME BEAT. NICE JOB, CONGRATULATIONS . ARE WE ABLE TO GET
ADDITIONAL? >> YES, SIR. LIKE THE MANAGER EXPLAINED, YOU ARE ABLE TO GET ADDITIONAL CARTS. AS MANY AS YOU NEED, FOR A ONE-TIME FEE OF $100. THAT STAYS CONSISTENT WITH THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT. THAT DOES NOT ADJUST. IF THEY BREAK, THEY GET REPLACED AT NO
CHARGE TO THE CUSTOMER. >> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD RELATIVE TO THIS, I CAN ENVISION SOME OF OUR MORE ELDER INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITIES MAY HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH SOMETHING THIS BIG, AND MOVING IT FROM WHEREVER THEY KEEP THEIR GARBAGE HIDDEN TO THE FRONT OF THE STREET WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE GETS PICKED UP. HAVE YOU HAD ANY OF THOSE KINDS
OF ISSUES? >> WE HAVE HAD ISSUES OF THOSE KINDS OF PEOPLE EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS. SO WE DO HAVE SMALLER CARTS AVAILABLE. AFTER THE INITIAL DISTRIBUTION OF THE 96 GALLON CARTS, IF SOME HE SAYS THEY ARE TOO BIG AND I DO NOT NEED IT, I WILL NOT USE IT, WE CAN PROVIDE A 65 GALLON CART. AND ALSO, PLEASE KNOW THAT THIS IS GENERIC GREEN. BUT THE CITY WOULD BE ABLE TO PICK WHATEVER COLOR IT CHOOSES. AND IT WOULD HAVE THE SITE LOGO.
NEON GREEN. YES. >> BARBARA AND TEAM, THANK YOU, GUYS. IT IS REASSURING TO KNOW THAT AT LEAST WE HAVE THREE RESIDENTS. THAT WAY IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, WE ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER. THAT IS A GOOD THING. THE QUESTION I HAVE, IT WAS ACTUALLY TODAY. ON MY OWN STREET I WAS NOTICING IT. CARS THE PARK, THE PARALLEL PARK ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. I AM CURIOUS. WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT? ESPECIALLY IN HOAS WHERE YOU SOMETIMES DO NOT KNOW WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE PARKING. IT IS EASY FOR PEOPLE TO GET OFF THE BACK OF THE TRUCK, MANEUVER AND PICK UP WHAT THEY NEED. WILL THAT CHANGE HOW PEOPLE PARK ON THE SIDE OF THE
STREET? >> IT WILL NOT CHANGE HOW PEOPLE PARK, VICE MAYOR. WHAT WILL REQUIRE SOME ADJUSTMENT IS WHERE THE CARTS ARE PLACED. THEY CANNOT BE WITHIN THREE FEET OF A PARKED CAR FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, BECAUSE IT COULD DAMAGE PERSONAL PROPERTY.
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WE USUALLY SEND OUT IN OUR MAILERS WHAT TO DO AND WHAT NOT TO DO. FOR EXAMPLE, DO NOT PLACE THE CART NEAR A PARKED CAR WITHIN THREE FEET, A MAILBOX, OR A TREE. IF THERE IS A POWERLINE, DO NOT PUT IT RIGHT UNDER THE POWERLINE. IF IT IS HANGING, LET US KNOW AND WE WILL ADDRESS IT. BUT AGAIN, ALL OF THAT IS COMMUNICATED CLEARLY TO FOLKS. IN THE VIDEO THAT I WAS JUST A PART OF, WE ACTUALLY HAD A GUY ROLL IT OUT AND SHOW HOW TO DO IT AND HOW NOT TO DO IT. AND PEOPLE GET IT. THERE ARE PARKED CARS THAT MAY IMPEDE THE EXCESS. IN THAT SITUATION, I WILL LET TOM ANSWER AS TO HOW WE HANDLE THAT. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HAVE ASL SERVICE. AND WE OFTEN DO ENCOUNTER SOMETIMES THAT IT IS BLOCKED.>> AGAIN, IT IS A LEARNED EXPERIENCE. IT IS NOT THAT DIFFICULT. I WILL TELL YOU WHY.
ESPECIALLY FOR PARKLAND. THIS CART IS ALREADY PICKED UP BY AN ASL. WHEREVER THE CART IS BEING PICKED UP AT IS THE RIGHT PLACE. WHAT IS NEXT TO IT IS THEIR GARBAGE CART. HE PROBABLY WILL NOT DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT. THEY ARE ALREADY PROBABLY TRAINED NOT TO PUT IT NEXT TO CARS, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE HALF OF YOUR SERVICES AND ASL, THAT PUTS US HALFWAY THERE. THE SECONDARY PARTS, IN YOUR DISTRICT, I'VE GOT FOUR SEASONS COVERED, I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO PEOPLE. OKAY? WE WILL BE JUST FINE. MY ENTIRE PICKLE BALL CREW IS READY TO
GO. >> I LOVE TO HEAR THAT. I WAS ASKING TOO BECAUSE I COULD IMAGINE THAT PEOPLE WILL BUY MORE CANS THAN ONE COME TYPICALLY YOU ARE RIGHT. I HAVE ONE AND ONE. BUT THAT IS ALSO BECAUSE I AM ABLE TO PUT SOME STUFF OUTSIDE IN THE CAN. I AM HAPPY THAT HAS BEEN AT LEAST RESOLVED. IN OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, I'VE GOT TO GIVE YOU GUYS A LOT OF CREDIT. YOUR DRIVERS AND WORKERS ARE INCREDIBLE IN THE SENSE OF CARE THAT THEY GIVE. THINGS GET LIFTED UP, TRASH FALLS OUT OF THE CANISTERS. SO NOW YOU HAVE STUFF, YOU KNOW, DEBRIS AROUND. RECOGNIZING THERE IS NOT SOMEONE ON THE BACK OF THE TRUCK, HOW DO YOU GUYS DEAL WITH THAT? I KNOW THERE IS NO SILVER BULLETS, BUT I AM CURIOUS. WOULD END UP WHERE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE A BUNCH OF EXTRANEOUS TRASH AROUND?
>> YOU WILL HAVE THE SAME DEDICATED DRIVERS. AND YOU HAVE ZEKE. THESE THINGS HAPPEN WITH RECYCLE A LOT TOO. THINGS THAT DO FALL GET PICKED UP. IF FOR SOME REASON THEY DO NOT, YOU HAVE ALL OF OUR DIRECT LINES. I DO NOT THINK WE HAVE HAD TOO MANY ISSUES WITH THAT. WE HAVE HAD A A LOT OF TIMES WHERE IT HAS SPILLED ACCIDENTALLY OR IF PEOPLE HAVE LEFT THINGS ON THE SIDE, LIKE OF THE RECYCLE CONTAINER. BUT WE HAVE ALREADY EVOLVED PAST THAT PROCESS. WE WILL SEE THAT COMING UP ON THIS, BUT I THINK WE WILL BE JUST FINE.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, GUYS. >> I WILL BE A COMPLEMENT IN THE CENTER. AS I SHARED WITH BARBARA, AND I ECHO ALL THE COMMENTS THAT COMMISSIONER CUTLER AND MAYOR WALKER SAID. ANYTIME I HAVE HAD AN ISSUE OR RESIDENTS HAVE HAD AN ISSUE, BARBARA AS A LIAISON FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN GREAT. PART OF MY CHALLENGE HERE WITH BEING, WITH NOT WANTING TO CHANGE THINGS UP, IT IS A TESTAMENT TO THE SERVICE WE ARE GETTING FROM WAYS MANAGEMENT. I AM NOT A FAN OF GOING TO THE SIDE LOADERS. I FEEL THAT IT LIMITS THE FLEXIBILITY FOR OUR MANAGEMENTS. WE HAVE AN ISSUE, I LIVE IN HERON BAY, I'M SURE IT IS THE CASE AND OTHERS THOUGH. AT THE TIME RIGHT NOW, IT IS MY WIFE AND I PAID I CAN TELL YOU THERE ARE MANY TIMES WE HAVE A GARBAGE CAN THAT SIZE, OR MANY TIMES, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE COMPANY OVER, THAT GARBAGE CAN DOES NOT SUFFICE TO PICK UP. IN THE NOTION THAT WE WILL ASK RESIDENTS TO FILL THEIR GRUDGES, WHICH ARE ALREADY PACKED TO THE GILLS.
THEY HAVE CARS ON THE DRIVEWAY AND FILLING SPILLING OVER INTO THE STREET, TO NOT PUT ANOTHER BEEN IN THEIR GARAGE. AND BY THE WAY, I HAVE GREAT GARBAGEMAN THAT PICK UP EVERYTHING. HERE IS A NOTE, TIP YOUR GARBAGEMAN OR GARBAGE PEOPLE. BUT THE NOTION THAT WE WILL REMOVE THAT FLEXIBILITY, TO ME, THAT IS A CONCERN. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO KEEP IT THE WAY THAT WE HAVE IT. I KNOW THAT WHILE IT IS A REAR LOAD FOR MY GARBAGE CAN, BECAUSE I HAVE ONE THAT IS VERY SIMILAR, THEY USE THE MACHINE TO LIFT IT SO THEY ARE NOT PHYSICALLY LIFTING IT ON THE REAR. IT IS GETTING LIFTED BY A MACHINE.
THEY JUST PUT UP. OFTEN TIMES, IF THERE IS A PALM FRONT OR EXTRA BAG OF GARBAGE, IT JUST HAPPENED THIS MORNING, THEY WILL PICK IT UP AND PUT IT. FOR THAT REASON, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT GOING TO THE SIDE LOADER AND ALL THE FEEDBACK I'VE GOTTEN FROM RESIDENTS REACH OUT TO ME HAS BEEN TO KEEP THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE AND NOT GO TO THE ASO. I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE IS A HYBRID OR A WAY THAT WE COULD GO TO THOSE TYPES OF CANS BUT LEAVE THE REAR LOADER AND STILL HAVE THE SERVICE THAT WE HAVE NOW. I HAVE A CHALLENGE WITH THE NOTION AND COST INCREASES. BUT I HAVE A CHALLENGE WITH THE NOTION THAT WE WILL CHARGE RESIDENTS 7%
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MORE AND, IN MY VIEW, PROVIDE THEM WITH LESS SERVICES. THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS. I JUST WOULD PREFER TO KEEP IT WITH THE SERVICE THAT WE HAVE. AGAIN, A TESTAMENT TO WASTE MANAGEMENT THAT IS A GOOD SERVICE AND THAT REDUCE FLEXIBILITY FOR OUR SEVEN.>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> NO, SIR. IT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO THE CITY.
>> I KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT PROPOSING THAT, BUT IS THAT AN OPTION?
>> WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS WHAT WE KNOW AS A COMPREHENSIVE SERVICE PACKAGE TO THE CITY OF LAKELAND. TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, THE 6.9 ADJUSTMENT IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT IS TRENDING RIGHT NOW, WITH A COUPLE OF INDUSTRIES IN THE INDUSTRY. AN ADJUSTMENT OF OCTOBER, SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT THE INDUSTRIES ARE TRENDING, AND NOT TO EXCEED 10%. RATES WOULD BE IN LINE WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING ECONOMICALLY AND IN THE MARKET.
IN TERMS OF LUST SERVICE, I'M GOING TO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH YOU AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY. BECAUSE THE VOLUME OF GARBAGE THAT YOUR RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO PUT IN THESE CONTAINERS, IN MANY INSTANCES, FAR EXCEEDS WHAT THEY CAN DO RIGHT NOW. YOUR THINKING, NO, NO. I'VE SEEN PILES AND THEY ARE MASSIVE. OKAY, YES. BUT REMEMBER, THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT OF ABOUT A CUBIC YARD OF GARBAGE. YES, SOME PEOPLE WILL PRODUCE MORE, SOME LESS. BUT YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF HAVING HOWEVER MANY CARTS YOU WANT FOR A ONE-TIME FEE FOR THE ADDITIONAL CART. IT WILL BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT TO SERVICE IN PARKLAND. WHY DO YOU CARE ABOUT OUR EFFICIENCIES, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT TRANSLATES INTO A COST SAVING FOR THE MANAGER.
WHAT I AM BRINGING TO YOU TODAY IS MUCH MORE EFFECT AND EFFICIENT SERVICE IN TERMS OF KEEPING IT CLEAN. MOST THE MATERIALS WILL BE CONTAINERIZED, IT IS LESS PRONE TO PEST COMING IN AND DESTROYING IT. IT HAPPENS SOMETIMES. THE DANCE STORM COULD THESE CARTS, BUT THEY ARE PRETTY STURDY. THE TRUCKS ALSO WILL NOT SPEND AS MUCH TIME IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY WILL BE QUICKER, IN AND OUT. SO I WOULD HOPE, COMMISSIONER, THAT YOU ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY BETWEEN FIRST READING IN SECOND READING TO NOT ONLY ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS, BUT LET ME COMMUNICATE WITH THOSE RESIDENTS AND HAVE A MEETING. I CAN SHOW THEM WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR CITIES. NOT ONLY THAT, I CAN ALSO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS.
HOW WILL I RESONATE -- RELAY THIS TO MY RESIDENCE. EVERYTHING WILL BE DONE COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CITY. THIS IS NOT A UNILATERAL CAPITAL WM DECISION. IF YOU WOULD GIVE US THAT CHANCE, WE CERTAINLY WOULD COME TO YOU BETWEEN NOW AND THE SECOND READING TO ADDRESS ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS. AND HOPEFULLY I CAN CHANGE HER MIND.
>> BARBARA, I APPRECIATE THAT. MAKE NO MISTAKE THAT MY COMMENT, AGAIN, I ECHO WHAT THE OTHERS SAID. MY COMMENTS ARE MORE ABOUT THE TRANSITION AND NOT ABOUT THE PROVIDER OR YOURSELF. ANYTIME YOU HAVE AN ISSUE, YOU ADDRESS IT IN BEING COMMUNICATIVE. I AM A PRIME EXAMPLE. I DO NOT HAVE SEVEN CHILDREN AND THE FAMILY IN THE BACK, OR FIVE LIKE HERE. MANY SITES -- MANY DAYS, THAT SIZE DOES NOT ACCOMMODATE THE GARBAGE THAT I NEED TO PUT OUT.
OFTENTIMES, IT IS AN EXTRA BAG OR IF YOU PALM FRONDS. MY CONCERN IS, I KNOW THIS ISSUE WAS VISITED BY THE COMMISSIONER A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AND REJECT IT WITH THE ASL'S. WE HAVE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE COME TO EXPECT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE ARE GETTING. WHETHER THAT IS BEING SPOILED OR NOT, I THINK ALL WE WILL GET IN FEEDBACK IS RESIDENT CONCERN THAT NEEDS ARE NOT BEING MET, THINGS ARE NOT BEING PICKED UP. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU CAN BUY EXTRA BINS. BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT IT REALLY PUT AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN OF TAKING UP SPACE, HAVE TO BRING IN THREE GARBAGE CANS TO AND FROM THE ROAD. IT IS HARD TO JUSTIFY THAT AND SO THAT WHEN THERE IS ALSO A RATE INCREASE.
>> NOW THAT I AM DISAGREEING WITH YOU. I WOULD IMAGINE THE TWO REAR LOADERS AND SEE -- ON
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THE TRUCK WOULD COST SIGNIFICANTLY MORE. WE HAVE ANY IDEA?>> THE SERVICE WE HAVE NOW, THE QUESTION BECOMES -- >> IS THAT INCREASED 50%, 20%? BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE TO WEIGH, OKAY, IT IS SEVEN PERCENT OR 20%, OR WE KEEP IT AWAY IT IS.
>> I HEAR YOU. >> THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
>> IT WOULD, IT WOULD. AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, THE SERVICE WE HAVE NOW, AND WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO GO UP TO BED OR BRING IN ANOTHER SERVICE PROVIDER. WE ARE VERY HAPPY WITH OUR SERVICE PROVIDER NOW, BUT THE NOTION THAT WE WILL CHANGE AND CUT BACK ON THE SERVICE AND REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF FLEXIBILITY THAT OUR RESIDENTS CAN HAVE, I THINK IT
WILL JUST GET NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM OUR RESIDENTS. >> I'M NOT DISAGREEING. I POINT IS THAT THERE IS PROBABLY A PRICE FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, KEEP IT THE SAME IS NOT ALWAYS
EASIER. BUT IF IT IS 20% AS OPPOSED TO 7%. >> WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION THE BEGINNING OF OUR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. I CAN GIVE YOU A BALLPARK. IT WAS A 41%
INCREASE. >> SO MY 20% WAS NOT EVEN CLOSE.
>> TO MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT SERVICE AT THE CURRENT LEVEL IS A 41% INCREASE?
>> YEAH, THAT IS ABOUT RIGHT. I REMEMBER HAVING THAT DISCUSSION WITH YOU, MADAM MANAGER. THE REASON FOR THAT, AS I MENTIONED, IT IS THE LABOR IMPACTS THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING INDUSTRYWIDE. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO ATTRACT QUALITY DRIVERS THAT WANT TO BE ON THE BACK OF A TRUCK WHEN IT IS 100 DEGREES OUTSIDE, WHEN IT IS STORMING. THEY WOULD RATHER TAKE THEIR CDL LICENSE ELSEWHERE. AMAZON, WALMART, PUBLIX. ANYWHERE THAT WOULD KEEP THEM IN A COOL CAB. THE DANGER TO OUR DRIVERS, I MENTIONED TO THE MANAGER THAT LAST YEAR, WE LOST ONE OF OUR DRIVERS IN A PARTNER CITY IMPLANTATION. HE FELL OFF THE BACK, HIT HIS HEAD, AND HE PASSED AWAY. SO, THANK GOODNES THAT IS NOT THE NORM, BUT THAT IS A REALITY. TO ATTRACT QUALITY LABOR TO WORK IN PARKLAND, TO CONSISTENTLY WORK IN PARKLAND AND GIVE YOU A CONTRACT SUSTAINABLE FOR THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT, THE RATES ARE IMPACTED. UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE ADJUSTMENTS ARE PASSED ON TO THE CUSTOMER. I COULD NOT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE COME TO NANCY WITH THAT RATE . I DO NOT HAVE THE FACE FOR THAT.
>> BARBARA, I AM CURIOUS NOW. WHAT IS THE ACTUAL RATE FOR WORKERS ON THE BACK OF THE
TRUCKS. >> THE PAY RATE? I WILL LET TOM ANSWER THAT .
>> YOU MIGHT CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, WE ARE ABOUT $25 AN HOUR, $26. YES. IT IS PLUS OR
MINUS, I DO NOT HAVE THE RATES WITH ME. >> YOU'RE SAYING THAT IS GOING UP YEAR OVER YEAR? IS THAT AN INCREASE FROM LAT YEAR TO THIS YEAR?
>> WHAT IT IS NOW, IF WE MAINTAIN THE SAME RATE, IT IS 10 DRIVERS TO HANDLE THE TRASH AS OPPOSED TO 4. SO YOU HAVE SIX MORE DRIVERS. IT IS CONTINUING THE SERVICE THAT IS HAD. FIVE TRUCKS WITH TWO PEOPLE AND 10 DRIVERS REDUCED TO 4 TRUCKS BECAUSE IT IS MORE
EFFICIENT. SO YOU GO FROM 10 TO 4. >> IS NOT SOLELY FROM THE
SALARY OF THE ACTUAL COST OF LABOR? >> NO. THERE IS A WHOLE CAST OF
THINGS THAT ARE BAKED INTO THESE MATRICES. >> NO, WHAT I AM SAYING IS THERE IS A DELTA BETWEEN 6.9% AND 41%. ABOUT 34%. I AM CURIOUS. OF THAT 34%, THE 6.9% IS ENCAPSULATING INSURANCE OR WHATEVER IS ALREADY GOING ON. I AM TRAINED TO UNDERSTAND PEERS.
HE GOES FROM 10 PEOPLE TO 4 PEOPLE. >> BUT HE IS ALSO KEEPING
CURRENT TRUCKS IF WE STAY AT THE CURRENT SERVICE LEVEL. >> IN OTHER WORDS, THEY DO NOT NEED DIFFERENT TRUCKS. THEY KEEP THE SAME TRUCKS. THOSE TRUCKS HAVE TO BE REPLACED AT SOME POINT. WE WOULD NOT BE KEEPING THOSE TRUCKS. WE WOULD BE REPLACING THEM WITH FIVE REAR MOTORS INSTEAD OF FOUR ASL'S. SO THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. SIX LESS PEOPLE
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AND WONDER GLASS TRUCK. THEY WILL ALL BE NEW TRUCKS AT SOME POINT.>> THOSE TRUCKS DO NOT JUST SERVICE PARKLAND? OH, THEY ARE SOLELY AT PARKLAND?
>> WE HAVE SPARE RATIOS LIKE ANY OTHER COMPANIES. THESE SPECIFIC TRUCKS WERE PARKLAND
ARE SPECIFIC TRUCKS FOR PARKLAND. >> I WAS STILL THINKING ABOUT
THE 40%. >> THINK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE. I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB FOR US IN THE CITY HERE AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I JUST HAVE QUESTIONS ON. MY FIRST QUESTION IS THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE. WE STILL WILL BE USING THE COUNTIES? THIS IS JUST THE
CONTRIBUTION? >> CORRECT. WE DID A SWITCH A FEW YEARS BACK DUE TO THE COST.
AND WE STILL FIND THAT MORE ADVANTAGEOUS. >> THE COUNTY IN THE
PRELIMINARY BUDGET HAS GONE UP TO THAT COST? >> YES.
>> PARK, YES. >> THE CONTRIBUTION OFFSETS THAT?
>> YES. IS >> AND WE HAVE NEVER HAD THIS CONTRIBUTION BEFORE? OKAY. THIS OFFSETS SOME OF THAT COST. SO THAT IS A GOOD THING. THE OTHER PART, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE SPECIFICS HERE, OBVIOUSLY, I DO WANT TO CALL UP SOUTHWEST RANCHES TALK TO THEM. I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE YET. I KNOW MAYOR CRUZ AND THEM ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH SOLID WASTE. SO HE WILL GIVE ME THE LOWDOWN ON HOW THEY TRANSITION. WHAT THEY WERE USING BEFORE, WHAT WAS THERE SERVICE LEVEL? ONCE A MONTH?
>> SOUTHWEST BRANCH, I FORGET WHAT THE PREVIOUS BULK SERVICE WAS, I CAN FIND OUT FOR YOU, SIR, AND I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. AS FAR AS SERVICE LEVELS RIGHT NOW IN SOUTHWEST RANCHES, THEY HAVE TWICE A WEEK GARBAGE, ONCE A WEEK RECYCLING, AND EVERY OTHER
WEEK BULK. >> AGAIN, I AM JUST OFFERING IDEAS, I GET COMMISSIONER BRIER'S POINT ABOUT HAVING THE AUTOMATIC SIDE LOWER. THE LARGER SIZED TRASH CANS IN SOME COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TRY TO FIT TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE AND THEY HAVE A DRIVERS,
THEY DO NOT HAVE THESE FOR THEM. >> I HAVE A DRIVEWAY, I DON'T PARK IN THE GARAGE BECAUSE IT IS FULL OF STUFF.
THAT WE HAVE HAD JUST COMING HERE AND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH TRASH. MOST PEOPLE ARE USING THEIR GARAGE FOR STORAGE. AGAIN, TALKING WITH HOAS, IF SOMEONE WILL HAVE A TRASH BIN OUTSIDE, WILL THE NEED TO HAVE IT SCREENED? WHERE WILL THEY PUT IT? THEE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DELIVERY. SO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO WORK OUT AND GET FEEDBACK FROM SOME OF THE HOAS. I HAVE NOT WATCHED THE VIDEO, BUT I WILL DO THAT. YOU DESERVE
ENEMY. >> ABSOLUTELY, SIR. YOU CAN NOMINATE ME.
>> I GUESS COMMISSIONER RYER POINTS OUT, IF YOU ARE GENERATING THAT MUCH WASTE, OR IF YOU ARE GENERATING WAYS THAT SHOULD NOT BE GENERATED, WE REALLY HAVE TWO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID , WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY MASTER PLAN. THEY ARE TALKING ZERO WASTE, COMPOSTING. THERE TALK ABOUT WHETHER TO BURN TRASH OR PUT IT IN THE LANDFILL, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT I THINK GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT AND TRY TO EDUCATE RESIDENTS. NOT ONLY ABOUT A CHANGE IN CONTAINERS, HOW THE TRASH IS PICKED UP, BUT AS WELL AS HOW TO CONSERVE TRASH THAT IS GENERATED. THE PRICE WILL CONTINUE TO GO UP WHETHER IT IS WASTE MANAGEMENT, COASTAL, WASTE PRO, WHATEVER IT IS. COST
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WILL CONTINUE TO ESCALATE. SO THAT IS, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT. THE OTHER THING, AND I WILL ASK BECAUSE AT LEAST ONE OF -- PINETREE IS IN MY DISTRICT.COMMISSIONER CUTLER HAS THE RANCHES. THAT IS REALLY WHERE, AND YOU GUYS CAN CHECK YOUR NUMBERS. A LOT OF THE PALM FRONDS IN HORTICULTURE WASTE IS GENERATED. SO WITH A PICKUP, A BULK PICKUP OF ONCE A WEEK -- WHAT? OH, ONCE A MONTH. BUT WHERE IT IS ONCE A MONTH, THAT BECOMES CHALLENGING TO THE RESIDENTS ABOUT WHERE THEY WILL PUT IT. TO PUT THE BURDEN ON THEM THAT THEY COULD GET EXTRA CANS OR WHATEVER IT IS, MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING FOR THOSE RESIDENTS IN THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT YOU CAN OFFER A DISCOUNTED RATE ON THE CANS. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY GET ONE FREE, THE SECOND ONE, I'M JUST THROWING OUT A NUMBER, 50%. THE THIRD
ONE, THE 25%, WHATEVER IT MAY BE. >> OR IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF
KIDS, YOU GET DISCOUNTS TOO. >> WE ALL GET DISCOUNTS. EVERYONE GETS IT.
>> YEAH, SOMETHING ALONG THAT WAY. I THINK THAT WILL HELP IN THE TRANSITION. I THINK THE QUESTION WITH THAT COMING BACK IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT A NUMBER IS. I KNOW YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT WHAT IT WOULD BE TO HAVE BULK PICKUP TWICE A MONTH AS OPPOSED TO ONCE A MONTH. AGAIN , I KNOW DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THAT MAY HELP IN THE TRANSITION. MY FEAR IS THAT SOMEBODY WILL TAKE THEIR HORTICULTURE WASTE, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO AT ABOUT THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH, LET IT GO IN THE BACKYARD, WITH THE WEATHER LIKE IT IS, IT SPARKS A FIRE. THE NEXT THING WE KNOW, WE'VE GOT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT PUTTING OUT FIRES
WHERE MAYBE THEY DID NOT HAVE TO. >> THERE IS A FIRE RIGHT NOW
GOING ON. >> RIGHT. LIKE I SAID, IT IS NOT JUST WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING, IT IS HOW IT AFFECT WHAT IS A CONSEQUENTIAL IMPACT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR OUR CONVERSATION. I APPRECIATE, LUIGI, YOU DID NOT COME THROUGH FOR ME, BUT IT IS OKAY.
>> OKAY. >> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY --
SPEAKERS ] >> I DO RECYCLE. I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE RECORD.
BUT TODAY WAS A PRIME EXAMPLE. I HAD A BAG OF LEAVES LEFT BY MY LAWN AND. A COUPLE OF PALM FRONDS BY THE TIME YOU PUT THOSE IN THE 96 GALLON CAN, IT IS PRETTY MUCH FULL. SO I HAD A FEW EXTRA BAGS. MY ISSUES ARE NOT WITH, YOU KNOW, THE ADDITIONAL CONTAINERS, BUT THE NOTION THAT WE WILL REMOVE THAT FLEXIBILITY AND ADD A 7% INCREASE. I GET IT, PRICES HAVE GONE APPEARED AS A LIKE THEY ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, REDUCING LABOR BY 60%, TRUCK SPICE -- BY 80%. ALSO A 7% INCREASE. TO ME, IT IS HARD TO SWALLOW. I CAN TELL YOU THAT I THINK OUR RESIDENTS WILL REACT NEGATIVELY ONCE THIS STARTS GETTING ROLLED OUT IN THEIR
STUFF DOES NOT GET PICKED UP. >> ANY CHANGE WILL DEFINITELY REACT TO A 40% INCREASE.
>> I HEAR YOU. SO THOSE ARE THE DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE. WHETHER IT BE TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE AND PAY 40% MORE, OR SWITCH TO A DIFFERENT SERVICE AND, YOU KNOW, PAYLESS. BUT WE ALL KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE NOT THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE HEARD SAY THAT IT IS HARDER TO FIND PEOPLE TO WORK HARD JOBS. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, I KNOW IN MY BUSINESS WE CANNOT WORK IN AIR CONDITIONING, MY GUYS HAVE TO WORK OUTSIDE. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND THOSE TYPES OF EMPLOYEES. AND WHEN YOU DO, YOU HAVE TO PAY THEM A LOT MORE THAN YOU USED TO JUST THREE YEARS AGO. YOU KNOW, IT IS DEFINITELY, I CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT ISSUE THAT YOU ARE HAVING. BECAUSE IT IS REAL. IT IS NOT MADE UP. YOU KNOW?
>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, JUST FOR THIS READING. I AGREE THERE IS PROBABLY SOME STUFF TO EXPLORE IN THE INTERIM. SO A MOTION TO APPROVE?
>> SECOND. >> I WILL SECOND. >> ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? AND
THEN JUST AS A REMINDER -- >> WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE PUBLIC.
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>> AS A REMINDER, THIS IS FIRST READING. THERE NEEDS TO BE A SECOND READING BEFORE IT IS
OFFICIALLY APPROVED. GO AHEAD. >> MY NAME IS DANIEL, I LIVE IN PINE ESTATES. I ACTUALLY LIVED IN FLORIDA, I MEAN, I LIVED IN DEERFIELD BEFORE MOVING TO PARKLAND. AND PARKLAND IS BEAUTIFUL, GORGEOUS, ONE OF THE REASONS I MOVED HERE WAS TO HAVE CHICKENS. ONE ACRE PROPERTY, IT IS BEAUTIFUL. AND I CAN HONESTLY SAY I WAS REALLY SURPRISED THAT THE TRASH PICKUP IN DEERFIELD WAS WAY BETTER THAN THE TRASH PICKUP AND PARKLAND. DEERFIELD HAS BEEN ON THE SIDELOAD SYSTEM FOR YEARS. ONE CAN PER FAMILY, IT ACTUALLY WORKED OUT. HERE IS WHAT WE DO WHEN YOU HAVE AN OVERABUNDANCE ONE PARTICULAR DAY. YOU KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS AND HE PUT IT IN YOUR NEIGHBORS'. WE BOUGHT TWO CANS WHEN WE NEEDED TO. AND WHEN THE FAMILY EXPANDED, IT WORKED OUT FINE. I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO BOB MAYERSOHN'S POINT BUT WE DO NOT WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO KEEP GROWING TRASH. THAT WILL NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO REDUCE TRASH. ONE OF THE WAYS TO DO THAT IS TO HAVE ONE VISUAL CAN. THIS IS MY LIMIT. AND IT IS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT YOU CAN START A PROGRAM LIKE THAT. I DO NOT THINK YARD WASTE SHOULD TECHNICALLY GO IN THE REGULAR TRASH. I THINK A DIFFERENT PROGRAM SHOULD BE OUT THERE FOR THAT. I DO THINK IN PINETREE ESTATES, OUR BOOK CLUB SCHEDULE SHOULD BE REDUCED TO EVERY OTHER WEEK WOULD BE PERFECT.
BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF YARD WASTE. SO THAT WOULD BE A BIG BENEFIT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM IN INVESTING IN THE CANS. DOES KEEP THE STREETS CLEANER. PEOPLE IN PINETREE ESTATES I DO NOT EVEN USE GARBAGE CANS. WHEN I MOVED, I WAS, LIKE, OH, WE ARE ONLY SUPPOSED TO USE THIS SIZE. I BOUGHT THE CORRECT SIZE THINKING THE WORLD WOULD BE FOLLOWED. ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE CANCER CANS WITH LIDS. RINSE RINGS COME YOU GET MAGGOTS. I CAN SAY THESE THINGS KEEP MAGGOTS OUT A LOT BETTER THAN THE OTHER CANS. IT REALLY IS A CLEANER SYSTEM. AND I UNDERSTAND THE PRICE INCREASE AND TRANSITION IN GETTING RESIDENTS TO ACCEPT IT. MY MOM IS 78 YEARS OLD AND SHE WHEELED HER LITTLE CANS OUT THERE, SHE TURNS IT, GETS IT, IT IS REALLY NOT THAT HARD. WHEN THEY DID THE TRANSITION IN DEERFIELD MANY YEARS AGO, AFTER THEY PICKED UP SOMETHING THEY WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO IN ANOTHER PERSON'S CAMP, THEY LEFT A NOTE AND SAID HEY, NEXT TIME WE WILL NOT PICK US UP. TRY TO FOLLOW THE RULES. AND A PEOPLE FOLLOW THE RULES. BUT IT REALLY IS A CLEANER SYSTEM, IN MY OPINION. MY ONLY THING IS THAT I WOULD NOT GO WITH GREEN CONNECTICUT IS CONFUSING WITH RECYCLING. DEERFIELD CHOSE BROWN. IT IS AN UGLY COLOR BROWN. BUT I THINK YOU COULD PICK A BETTER COLOR THAN GREEN.
PEOPLE COULD DIFFERENTIATE THAT THAT IS THERE TRASH VERSUS RECYCLING. I DO THINK WASTE MANAGEMENT DOES A GOOD JOB WHEN THEY PICK UP STUFF THAT DOES FALLOUT AND STUFF. I HAVE TO HONESTLY SAY THAT SOMETIMES I FEEL REALLY BAD FOR THEM, WHEN PEOPLE THROW THE GARBAGE CAN, ANIMALS GET INTO IT. SO I CONCUR, I WOULD NOT WANT TO DO THE JOB. I AM ALWAYS PICKING UP MY NEIGHBORS TRASH AND STUFF IT MIGHT CANS FELL OVER. AS A RESIDENT, I WOULD DO IT. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO WOULD SUPPORT IT, I WOULD SUPPORT IT, HAVING COME FROM A CITY LIKE THAT. I THINK BOCA IS LIKE THAT TOO IN SOME AREAS. I FEEL LIKE WE ARE A LITTLE BIT
BEHIND IN MY OPINION. SO THAT IS MY OPINION. THANK YOU. >> THINK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU SPEAKING. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY THE VICE MAYOR ISROW AND A SECOND BY MAYOR WALKER.
>> OKAY. THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BY COMMISSIONER MEYERSOHN. SO I GUESS WE WILL LET YOU START. I AM CURIOUS, CONSIDERING YOU SERVED FOR THE LAST 7 1/2 YEARS, WHY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL NEEDS TO HAPPEN? BECAUSE THIS IS NOW THE SECOND TIME WE ARE HAVING THE SAME DISCUSSION. IT IS A PRESSING ISSUE FOR YOU. I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO SEE WHY THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL HAS TO CHANGE. >> ANY TIME THE MAYOR CAN DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER ON THE AGENDA, PROVIDED THE MEETING IS THREE DAYS SUBSEQUENT TO THE
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MAYOR'S DIRECTION. AT ANY DULY NOTICED MEETING, THEREFORE COMMISSIONERS, THE ONLY WAY TO GET AN ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA, NOT ON A CURRENT AGENDA, I MUST, OBVIOUSLY, COMMISSIONER BRIER BROUGHT SOMETHING UP TODAY AND WE ALL ARE IN FAVOR OF IT. THE COMMISSIONER, WHICH WE ALL ARE ELECTED, WE ALL HAVE A VOTE, I BELIEVE WE ALL SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT AN ITEM ON THEAGENDA. >> CAN A COMMISSIONER GO TO NANCY, WHO CONTROLS THE AGENDA AND SAY, HEY, NANCY, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A SPECIFIC ITEM ON THE AGENDA. HAVE YOU EVER ASKED
NANCY TO PUT ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA WHERE SHE SAID NO? >> I DO NOT WANT TO NECESSARILY BRING IT UP, BUT I BROUGHT AN ITEM RECENTLY IN A PROCLAMATION THAT WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA AND
I WAS TOLD IT WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA. >> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE RULE BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO FOLLOW. THE PROBLEM WITH THE RULE, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO FOLLOW. OTHER CITIES DO NOT HAVE THIS ROLL. THEY DO NOT HAVE A ROLL THAT TO COMMISSIONERS, AT LEAST TWO COMMISSIONERS NEED TO BRING SOMETHING TO GET IT ON THE
AGENDA. THE RULE IN AND OF ITSELF -- >> ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?
>> THERE IS THE CITY ATTORNEY. THE RULE IN AND OF ITSELF WOULD REQUIRE A VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE. THAT IS MY POINT. PUT ASIDE THAT WE ARE NOT DEALING -- I THOUGHT THIS WAS SOMETHING THE CHARTER REVIEW WOULD DISCUSS THIS IS NOT SOMETHING IN OUR CHARTER. AS ANTHONY EXPLAINED, IT IS IN A BYLAW. WITH SEVERAL MEMBERS OF OUR CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE BROUGHT UP INDIVIDUALLY TO ME. THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD FIX. BECAUSE IT REQUIRES, IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE PRACTICAL AND EFFECTIVE A VIOLATION OF SUNSHINE. YOU HAVE A VIOLATION OF A RULE WE HAD A MEETING TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE MEETING. NANCY IS GREAT ABOUT BEING COMMUNICATIVE AND DO THAT. BUT WE ARE TO THE RULE IN GENERAL, NOT PERSONALITIES. IN ORDER FOR THAT TO GO ON THE AGENDA OR BE REQUIRED TO GO ON THE AGENDA, ANOTHER COMMISSIONER HAS TO
AGREE. >> ANYBODY CAN GO TO NANCY AND ASK TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA. NANCY CONTROLS THE AGENDA. SO SHE CAN ADD IT TO THE AGENDA.
>> OUR BYLAWS SAY DIFFERENTLY. >> NANCY CONTROLS THE AGENDA.
>> I HEAR YOU. >> IN ORDER TO GET SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE TO GO TO NANCY BECAUSE THEN THE STAFF IS TRIGGERED TO DO ADDITIONAL WORK. IN AGENDA ITEM, THERE ARE TWO THINGS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM. AND THEN YOU HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM. IF YOU ARE WANTING TO PUT AN AGENDA ITEM ON, STEPH HAS TO DO THE BACK WORK. THEY HAVE TO DO THE BACKUP, THEY HAVE TO WRITE A RESOLUTION, THEY HAVE TO DO ALL OF THAT WORK. BY ADDING ADDITIONAL PEOPLE TO DO THAT, YOU ARE GIVING FIVE PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO PUT ANYTHING THEY WANT ON AN AGENDA. IN DOING SO, YOU ARE POTENTIALLY CREATING A LOT OF ADDITIONAL WORK FOR STEFFI TO TALK ABOUT A DISCUSSION ITEM WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING, THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN AN AGENDA ITEM . WHEN SOMETHING GOES ON THE AGENDA , I WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING. WHEN I'M VOTING ON SOMETHING, I WANT TO KNOW EVERY THING.
>> BUT IT GOES ON THE SAME AGENDA. >> BUT YOU DON'T VOTE ON A DISCUSSION ITEM. STAFF DOES NOT NEST SARA LEE HAVE TO DO AS MUCH HOMEWORK.
>> TAKE TONIGHT AGENDA FOR INSTANCE. WE HAVE THE WASTE MANAGEMENT AND WHATEVER THE PREVIOUS THING WAS. BUT STAFF HAD TO GO THROUGH AND DO OTHER WORK, THEY HAD TO DO THE RESOLUTION ALL THAT STUFF. WE JUST THROWN A DISCUSSION AND WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION PEER
DISCUSSIONS, WE CAN HAVE IT OR WHATEVER. >> MAYBE IT IS A LAWYER IN ME, THE WAY OUR RULES READ NOW, IF WE WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE AGENDA, THE ONLY THING NANCY COULD DO, IF SHE WANTS TO, AND SHE IS GREAT, SHE HAS NOT REJECTED IT. BUT I AM TALKING BUT OVERALL. NANCY AND I TALKED ABOUT, WELL, IN OUR 1-1, WE COULD HAVE A DIFFERENT --, A DIFFERENT CITY MANAGER. WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT THE RULE MAKES NO SENSE HERE. THE RULE MAKES NO SENSE TO ME, WHERE IT REQUIRES TWO COMMISSIONERS TO GET SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA. TO
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ME, THAT IS FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED FOR TWO REASONS. ONE IS THE SUNSHINE ROLL. TWO IS THE FACT THAT IT DOES NOT CHANGE ANYTHING. I AGREE WITH YOU, YOU WANT TO BE PREPARED, EVEN IF IT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM, I WANT TO BE PREPARED. I WOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH STEPH ABOUT IT, I CAN PREPARE FOR IT, IF RESIDENTS WANT TO BE THERE, I KNOW IT IS ON THE AGENDA. FOR ME, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE LANGUAGE IN ITS ENTIRETY. I HAVE NO REASON TO NEED IT.>> SO LANGUAGE IS DIFFERENT THAN FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGING THE WAY THE SYSTEM HAS WORKED SINCE
AT LEAST 1990. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE GONE BACK. >> I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
I WILL TELL YOU WHY I READ IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. THE WAY I READ THIS, THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT WAYS SOMETHING GETS PUT ON THE AGENDA. ONE IS MY REQUEST TO THE CITY MANAGER WITHIN THE CITY MANAGER'S DISCRETION. THAT CAN BE ANY COMMISSION THAT MAKES THE REQUEST. THAT IS NUMBER ONE THAT IT IS UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY MANAGER. ANY TIME THE MAYOR -- CAN PLACE IT ON IT CITY MEETING. TWO COMMISSIONERS CAN DIRECT ANY FUTURE AGENDA, THAT IS OR THREE. OR AT THE MEETING BY UNANIMOUS VOTE, WE CAN HAVE IT PUT ON THE ACTUAL AGENDA OF THE MEETING IN PROGRESS. SO IT IS NOT JUST THAT IT ONLY GETS PUT ON AN AGENDA OF TWO COMMISSIONERS DO THAT. THAT IS ONLY IF TWO COMMISSIONERS WANT TO DO IT AT A FUTURE AGENDA DURING A DULY NOTICED MEETING. YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION REQUEST FROM THE CITY MANAGER, IT IS FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S DISCRETION WHETHER TO PUT IT ON THE NEXT
AGENDA. >> IF THE CITY MANAGER SAID NO, AT THAT TIME, YOU WOULD BRING UP AT A COMMISSION MEETING AND SAY, HEY, IS THERE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO BACK ME ON SOMETHING, BECAUSE I TRIED TO GET IT ON AND NANCY SAID NO. CAN SOMEBODY, DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO BACK ME ON THAT? AND THAT IS WHEN IT CAN GET PUT ON.
>> LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. >> LET ME INTERJECT. >> GO AHEAD.
>> TO THAT POINT, WHEN YOU READ THE LANGUAGE, AT ANY TIME, THE MAYOR MAY DIRECT, IT DOES NOTHING THE CITY MANAGER CAN REFUSE OR NOT. WHY CAN'T A COMMISSIONER DIRECT THE CITY
MANAGER TO DO THE SAME? >> MAYBE I AM BEING BIASED AS THE MAYOR. BUT AS MAYOR, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING THE MEETING. SO SOME PEOPLE PERCEIVE THAT THE AGENDA IS YOURS. RIGHT? AND THERE ARE MANY TIMES WHEN THINGS GO WRONG THAT EVERYTHING IS THE MAYOR.
THE MAYOR IS THE SPOKESPERSON, WHILE THE VOTES ARE ALL EXACTLY THE SAME, TO ME, THE MAYOR DOES GARNER SOME ADDITIONAL. BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE AN ISSUE, AGAIN, YOU HAVE AN ISSUE 7 1/2 YEARS AFTER YOU HAVE BEEN RUNNING, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN A COMMISSIONER FOR 7 1/2 YEARS NOW. AND YOU DID NOT BRING THIS UP THREE YEARS AGO, FOUR YEARS AGO, FIVE YEARS AGO, OR SIX YEARS AGO. THAT TO ME IS CONCERNING. IF IT IS ALL OF A SUDDEN THE LIGHTBULB WENT OFF,
THAT TO ME -- >> I AM PLANNING FOR FUTURE COMMISSIONS.
>> THERE ALSO HAS TO BE BALANCED, RIGHT? WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS A FREE FOR ALL.
IF EVERY SINGLE COMMISSIONER HAS THE ABILITY WITHOUT ANY DISCRETION OR GUARDRAILS, JUST SAY NANCY, NEXT MEETING, YOU WILL PUT AN AGENDA ITEM ON THIS THAT WE WILL PUT A SWIMMING POOL OUT IN FRONT OF CITY HALL. AND THERE IS NOTHING SHE CAN DO ABOUT IT. RIGHT? SO THE POINT IS, THERE HAS TO BE SOME BALANCE. IT CANNOT JUST BE ANY AND ALL -- OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] YOU ARE SAYING WHY CAN THE MAYOR DO IT IN OF THE COMMISSIONERS? IF ALL
OF THE COMMISSIONERS CAN DO IT, WHAT IS THE BALANCE? >> THE BALANCES THAT YOU HAVE GUARDRAILS. IF I DECIDE I WANT TO DIRECT NANCY TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA AND
FOUR OF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT, YOU CAN TABLE IT. >> NOW IT IS ON AN AGENDA.
>> IF I HAVE TO COME TO A MEETING AND VOICE MY OPINION TO GET A SECOND WITHOUT ANY
EXPLANATION -- >> YOU DO NOT HAVE TO. THAT IS ASSUMING THE CITY MANAGER DISAGREES THAT IT IS NOT GOING TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA. BUT AGAIN, WHY CAN'T WE MAKE THE PROCESS EASIER? I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROCESS IS WITH HAVING ANY COMMISSIONER.
>> WHAT TO DATE HAS BEEN DIFFICULT? >> I THINK YOU ARE APPROACHING IT THE WRONG WAY. THAT IS HOW IT CAME UP FOR ME. I'VE ONLY BEEN ON THE DAYS THREE YEARS,
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BUT IT CAME UP TO ME AS PART OF THE CHARTER REVIEW. ONE THING I THOUGHT WE WOULD DEAL WITH IS THE ABILITY TO CALL EMERGENCY MEETINGS, THE ABILITY TO PUT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. I CAN TELL YOU, I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SEVERAL OF OUR AGENDA CHARGER REVIEW MEMBERS THAT WANT TO THAT REVIEW CHANGE FOR PURPOSES IT MAKES SENSE AND REQUIRES A VIOLATION OF SUNSHINE. HOW DO YOU DO IT OUTSIDE OF A MEETING? I AM SOMEWHAT BAFFLED BY THE RESISTANCE. I DO NOT APPRECIATE THAT WHEN WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ON THIS INITIALLY ABOUT SETTING THIS UP ON A LATER DISCUSSION.I DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT. IF IT GETS ABUSED -- >> IF IT GETS ABUSED, HOW WILL YOU THEN FIX IT? BECAUSE YOU ARE GIVING FOUR ADDITIONAL PEOPLE THE ABILITY TO PUT ANYTHING THEY WANT ON THE AGENDA AT ANY TIME. THAT IS A POTENTIAL ONEROUS AMOUNT OF
WORK FOR STAFF. >> BUT RICH, HEAR ME OUT. YOU HAVE FIVE PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION NOW. IF THE MAYOR ABUSED THE ABILITY TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA -- HEAR ME OUT. IF THE MAYOR, WHO CURRENTLY HAS THAT ABILITY, OR THE CITY MANAGER ABUSED THEIR ABILITY TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, WE AS A BODY CAN GOVERN THAT. WE CAN CHANGE THE ROLL AND ADDRESS IT. BUT THE POINT THAT I HAVE WITH IT IS THAT IF I WANT SOMETHING RIGHT NOW AS A COMMISSIONER , AND NANCY AND I WERE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES. FOR ME, THIS IS LESS ABOUT A SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCE OR ISSUE AND MORE ABOUT THE ROLL OF NOT MAKING SENSE . IF I RIGHT NOW HAVE SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO GET ON THE AGENDA AND IT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET, AND SAY TO NANCY I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA, I DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY OF THE COMMISSIONER TO DIRECT THAT, UNLESS NANCY HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROACHED BY ANOTHER COMMISSIONER THAT I AM UNAWARE OF AND I BRING IT UP IN A MEETING.
>> THAT IS NOT TRUE. YOU CAN HANDILY ASK NANCY TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA AND SHE
WILL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. >> WE ARE DEALING WITH A RULE THAT YOU CANNOT TAKE IT IN A VACUUM. RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN A VACUUM. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ROLL NOT MAKING SENSE LOGICALLY
. >> WAITS, I AM SORRY. >> WAITS, LOOK. THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE MAYOR AND THE COMMISSIONER. ALL VOTES ARE EQUAL. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MAYOR AND THE COMMISSION. WHY DOES THE MAYOR MAKE $3000 A YEAR MORE THAN THE REST OF THE COMMISSION? WHY DON'T WE ALL MAKE THE SAME? WE SHOULD ALL MAKE THE SAME.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR DOES NOT HAVE TO TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL HEAT FROM ANYBODY ELSE. THE MAYOR DOES NOT HAVE TO GO OUT AND SPEAK TO OTHER PEOPLE. THE MAYOR DOESN'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I AM CERTAINLY NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT BECAUSE I ENJOY IT. WHY DON'T WE JUST ROTATE WHO RUNS THE MEETINGS? WE WILL JUST ROTATE.
>> THE COUNTY DOES. >> THAT IS NOT MY MOTIVATION. THAT IS NOT MY GOAL WHATSOEVER.
>> THE CHARGER IS ACTUALLY AMENDING IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT. I WANT TO TAKE IT OFF THE TABLE. THAT IS A LEGITIMATE ISSUE THAT IS ALREADY BEING SOLVED. THE REMAINDER OF IT, THE CONCERN IS THAT WHY CAN'T ANYONE JUST PUT ON ANYTHING? I DO NOT SEE THAT AS A LEGITIMATE ISSUE. WHY CAN'T WE, AS OPPOSED TO WHY SHOULD WE?
>> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CHARGER VIEW BECAUSE THE EMERGENCY MEETING WAS ONE THING. RIGHT NOW, THE CITY MANAGER DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CALL AN EMERGENCY MEETING. BUT WE COULD HAVE THE SAME DISCUSSION WITH THAT ISSUE. THE CITY MANAGER COULD REACH OUT TO THE MAYOR AND THE MAYOR COULD CALL A DISCUSSION MEETING.
>> WE ARE DEALING WITH HYPOTHETICALS. MY PROBLEM IS WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE RULE.
>> THAT IS THE POINT. WE ARE DEALING WITH HYPOTHETICALS AND NOT A SINGLE PERSON HAS COME UP WITH A REAL LIFE SITUATION, NOT A HYPOTHETICAL THAT WARNS OR JUSTIFIES THIS DEBATE.
>> OR THAT WARNS AND JUSTIFIES THE CONCERN. >> THIS ROLL HAS BEEN IN PLACE
AT LEAST SINCE 1990. >> FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, AT LEAST 1990, THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS. THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE COMMISSIONER IN 33 YEARS, 34 YEARS. THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE COMMISSIONER IN 34 YEARS WHO FELT THAT THIS ROLL NEEDED TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT GET SOMETHING ON AN AGENDA THAT THEY WANTED WHEN THEY ASKED THE
CITY MANAGER, WHO IS THE BOSS. >> I WILL GO AHEAD AND TRY TO CIRCUIT THIS. I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE TRY TO MOVE ON. IT IS A DISCUSSION, WE ARE NOT VOTING.
THE EXTENT THAT TWO COMMISSIONERS HERE BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE AN AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS THIS, THEN YOU GUYS HAVE THE RIGHT AT THIS MEETING TO MAKE A MOTION OR MAKE A REQUEST THAT IT BE PUT ON A FUTURE MEETING TO BE VOTED ON. RATHER THAN US DISCUSSING IT, IF THAT IS YOUR PREROGATIVE, FOLLOW THE ROLL AND SET IT UP TO BE POTENTIALLY AMENDED .
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>> BUT BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT, LET'S THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A SECOND. SO ARE WE GOING TO
PROPOSE A NEW ROLL THAT WILL BE VOTED ON? >> I'M NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING.
WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM. SO MY POINT IS THAT WE COULD SIT HERE AND TALK AD NAUSEAM AND IT WILL NOT DO ANYTHING. IF ANYONE IS PROPOSING THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF CHANGE, INVOKE THE RULE. IN IN FACT, IT WILL PROVE THAT IS HOW IT IS
SUPPOSED TO WORK. >> LET'S DO IT A DIFFERENT WAY. LET'S HAVE A WORKSHOP ON IT WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND GET LEGAL INPUT AND LISTEN TO WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES ARE DOING AND HOW THEY ARE DOING IT. AND PERHAPS GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. SPIRIT THAT COULD STILL BE A PART. THAT IS A PERFECT POINT. TWO COMMISSIONERS VOTE TO PUT ON AN AGENDA, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. THE STEP HAS TO GO THROUGH, CULTIVATES, AND
PREPARED THE ACTUAL INFORMATION TO USE. >> WE COULD HAVE A WORKSHOP AND
DISCUSS IT. >> I KNOW WE COULD. >> BUT I COULD TELL YOU --
>> BUT THEN WE WOULD GET MORE BACKUP. >> I COULD TELL YOU, WHEN NANCY AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH ANTHONY IN MY ONE-ON-ONE, AND I NEVER EXPECTED THIS REACTION, OR THE OPPOSITION TO CLEANING UP AS WE WERE DOING FOR THE OTHER ONES. BUT WHEN I HAD THIS, WE TALKED ABOUT HYBRID. CAN A COMMISSIONER REQUEST A DISCUSSION BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA? I GET IT. NANCY COULD ALWAYS PUT ON ANYTHING WE ASK FOR. BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT SHE HAS TO, OR A FUTURE COMMISSIONER OR FUTURE CITY MANAGER HAS TO. I THAT WE WERE JUST CLEANING IT UP. I ALSO HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH BOTH NANCY AND ANTHONY. THAT IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A SINGLE COMMISSIONER THAT IS REQUIRING THE CITY STAFF TO DO A TON OF WORK. IT COULD BE, LISTEN, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. I DO NOT WANT THE COMMISSIONERS TO BE SIDELINED OR TAKEN OFF GUARD. I WANT THEM TO BE PREPARED FOR THE DISCUSSION, I WOULD LIKE THIS ADDED TO THE AGENDA SO WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. MAYBE THERE IS A FUTURE ACTION ITEM LATER. BUT THE WAY I READ IT NOW, FOR ME TO HAVE ANYTHING PUT ON THE AGENDA, OTHER THAN NANCY'S DISCUSSION, I NEED TO HAVE ONE OF YOU BACK ME UP AND I CANNOT DO THAT OUTSIDE OF A MEETING. THAT WAS MY CONCERN. I'M HAPPY TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON IT, I'M HAPPY TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE IS ANOTHER WAY TO SKIN A CAT. BUT I REVIEWED IT, HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH ANTHONY.
IT IS ESSENTIALLY OUTSIDE OF A MEETING FOR ME TO VIOLATE SUNSHINE.
>> I DO NOT SEE IT THAT WAY. TO ME, IT IS A TIERED APPROACH. FIRST STEP, MAKE THE REQUEST.
YOU ARE RIGHT. THERE IS A DISCUSSION IN THE CITY MANAGER. IF THE CITY MANAGER TURNS IT DOWN , TO ME, THAT'S PART OF IT IS LIKE AN APPEAL. IN OGLETREE CITY COMMISSION MEETING, YOU MAKE YOUR CASE AS TO, HEY, I REQUESTED THIS BE PUT ON THE AGENDA, IT WAS NOT, I WOULD INSIST IT TO BE PUT ON. DO I HAVE ANY SUPPORT? YOU NOW GET TO MAKE YOUR CASE, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING NO BARRIER TO ENTRY AND SAYING I WANT THIS ON THE AGENDA AND YOU CANNOT STOP ME. AND NOW EVERYONE CAN PUT ON WHATEVER THEY WANTED AND I WE HAVE MEETINGS GOING UNTIL 3:00 IN THE MORNING ABOUT STUFF THAT ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, REALLY IT MAY NOT BE IMPORTANT.
>> YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN? >> IT HAS NOT. THAT IS MY POINT. WE ARE DEBATING SOMETHING, A PROBLEM, WE ARE DEBATING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM.
>> IT IS TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE. THAT IS MY THING. WE DO NOT KNOW. CLEARLY IS IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH US. BUT WE DO NOT KNOW IN THE FUTURE WHAT KIND OF AGENDAS OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ]PEOPLE MAY HAVE. THERE MAY BE PEOPLE WHO GET ELECTED THAT WANT TO
START -- >> I HEAR YOU. AND LIKE I SAID, IF IT GETS ABUSED, YOU CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT BACK BECAUSE IT IS NOT PART OF OUR CHARTER. BUT MY POINT IS I DID NOT SEE THE CONCERN OR THE FLOODGATES, OR ANYTHING, AM HAPPY TO HAVE A WORK SHOP ON IT AND HAPPY ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO. IF THEY HAVE A MORE CREATIVE WAY TO DO IT, THAT IS FINE. WE CAN PUT ANYBODY ON THE AGENDA IN CORAL SPRINGS EXCEPT THE CITY MANAGER. THEY HAVE A SECTION WHERE CAN ASK FOR THINGS TO BE DISCUSSED, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT OTHER OPTIONS.
>> OKAY. SO WE WILL ADD THIS TO A WORKSHOP. AS I WHAT WE ARE DOING?
>> AGAIN, I ALREADY SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING. BUT, AGAIN, MY .2 IT IS THAT I CAN BRING FORWARD AN ITEM, AGAIN, I'M NOT PICKING ON NANCY, TO A CITY MANAGER. NANCY MAY BE HERE OR MAY NOT BE HERE COME A OR A FUTURE COMMISSION CAN BRING SOMETHING TO A CITY MANAGER, WHO, THE CITY MANAGER WORKS FOR THEM. IN THE CITY MANAGER CAN REFUSE. THAT TO ME DOES NOT
MAKE SENSE. >> THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME.
>> BUT FROM A PURE STANDPOINT OF I CANNOT GO TO SOMEBODY, I AM THE BOSS AND ASKED THEM TO
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DO SOMETHING, AND THEY SAY IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. KNOW WHAT? I WILL NOT PUT ON PEERS AND NOW I HAVE TO COME TO MY COLLEAGUES AND SAY MY CITY MANAGER REFUSED SOMETHING. AND I AM ASKING AT LEAST ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES TO PUT IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA. BUT THE POINT, I GUESS, TO THE VICE MAYOR ISROW'S POINT, ANYBODY CAN PUT 25 ITEMS ON AN AGENDA. OKAY? THE MAYOR COULD PUT 25 ITEMS ON AN AGENDA. I COULD COME HERE, AND I SAY HERE THE 25 ITEMS THAT I WANT AND I COULD GET ONE OF THE PERSON TO SUPPORT IT AND HAVE THE 25 ITEMS . WE HAVE THE GUARD RAILS UNDER ROBERTS RULES TO TABLE SOMETHING, TO DO THOSE THINGS IF THE REST OF THE COMMISSION DOES NOT SEE THAT AS A VIABLE OPTION. I COULD TURN IT AROUND AND SAY A MOTION TO TABLE THEITEM. >> WHAT YOU CREATE CIRCUMSTANCES, I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. YOU GET TO SAY, NANCY, I WANT YOU TO PUT THIS ON. IN YOUR WORLD, SHE HAS NO DISCRETION, YOU HAVE TO LISTEN. RIGHT? NOW IT GETS PUT ON. EVEN IF IT GETS TABLED, NOW YOU COME BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, NANCY? I WANTED ON THE NEXT ONE ALSO. YOU COME BACK AND YOU ARE, LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? THE COMMISSION CAN TABLE IT IF THEY DON'T WANT IT, WE TABLE IT, AND THEN HE PUT IT BACK ON AGAIN. NOW GUESS WHAT? YOU GET SUPPORT, HE GETS VOTED, AND IT PASSES. THEN THE NEXT WEEK, I SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, NANCY? I WANT TO PUT ON THE AGENDA THAT WE WILL REVERSE IT. OF COURSE NOT. BUT WHY CAN'T YOU BRING IT BACK? ANYBODY CAN PUT
ANYTHING THEY WANT ON THE AGENDA. >> THAT IS WHAT I SAID. I THINK JORDAN SAID IT BEST. THIS HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 1990. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN BROUGHT TO ANYBODY'S ATTENTION. WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT DOES NOT EXIST. IT DOES NOT EXIST. IN 30 YEARS. AS FAR AS I WAS ABLE TO GO BACK. AND MAYBE FURTHER THAN THAT.
>> IF COMMISSIONERS DID NOT SEE IT AS AN URGENT ISSUE, I DO NOT SEE --
>> THAT LOGIC IS QUESTIONABLE. WE ARE PUTTING FOR THINGS ON THE BALLOT THIS YEAR AS PART OF THE REVIEW THAT HAVE BEEN IN OUR CHARTER FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. WE ARE CLEANING THINGS UP AND FIXING IT. AND SO WE ARE LITERALLY PAYING FOR AN ELECTION ON FOUR CHARTER ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN IN OUR CHARTER FOR PROBABLY AS LONG IF NOT LONGER. SPENT TWO OF THEM ARE
CLEANUP. SO THEY ARE NOT EVEN -- THEY ARE NOT EVEN. >> MY POINT IS IT CAME AS PART OF THE PROCESS. WE ARE FIXING THINGS THAT COULD BE PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE. I DID NOT SEE IT
AS A CONTROVERSIAL DECISION. >> I POTENTIALLY AS CREATING, POTENTIALLY CREATING A PROBLEM. WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. I HAVE FULL FAITH AND CONFIDENCE. BUT
ABSCESS -- >> I GUESS THE MOTION IS TO PUT IT ON A FUTURE WORKSHOP.
>> YES. >> DOES ANYBODY SECOND? >> NANCY, WILL YOU TURN IT
DOWN? >> THAT IS NOT AN AGENDA ITEM.
>> ALL RIGHT. NOW WE WILL DISCUSS, WHICH YOU JUST PUT ON THE AGENDA TODAY, YOU
SINGLE-HANDEDLY PUT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. >> IT IS A CURVEBALL.
INAUDIBLE - OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] >> IT MAY HAVE TO BE A WORKSHOP ONLY BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW, I'M PRETTY VERSED IN THE SUBJECT, I JUST DO NOT KNOW HOW
FAR I CAN GO AND HOW MUCH WE NECESSARILY WANT TO SAY. >> NANCY AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS IN OUR AGENDA REVIEW. NANCY AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AFTER OUR LAST MEETING WHERE HE TALKED ABOUT THESE ISSUES. A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING WITH LORI ALL DEAF AND DR. LICATA.
WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING WAS A VERY CLEAR VISION AT THE TIME. GRANTED, THE VISION MAY HAVE CHANGED. BUT COMING OUT OF THAT MEETING WAS A VERY CLEAR VISION OF, WE WANT TO RIGHT SIZE THE DISTRICT. THAT WILL TAKE US A PERIOD OF TIME, 3 TO 5 YEARS COME ABOUT WE SEE PARKLAND AS A GROWTH COMMUNITY. WE SEE PARKLAND AS A COMMUNITY WHERE THERE WILL BE FUTURE
NEEDS FOR SCHOOLS. >> THEY SAID THAT? >> DR. LICATA? AND SO THE IDEA WAS IN THE DISCUSSION WAS THAT IT WOULD BE SHORTSIGHTED TO SELL OFF PROPERTY IN A FUTURE GROWTH AREA, LET US RIGHT SIZE, AND LET US SEE WHAT HAPPENS. MY CONCERN IS, AS WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST WORKSHOP AND THE FEEDBACK THAT I HAD GOTTEN, THEY DO NOT WANT TO RIGHT SIZE
RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE PUSHING OFF CLOSING SCHOOLS. >> NO, THAT IS NOT TRUE. SO THAT IS WHERE, THAT IS WERE I AM NOT 100% SURE. YOU ARE CORRECT. ORIGINALLY THE VISION WAS THAT THEY WOULD CLOSED SCHOOLS. THEN IT WAS A WOULD NOT CLOSED SCHOOLS. NOW THEY ARE GOING BACK TO CLOSING SCHOOLS AGAIN. SO WE HAVE NO IDEA --
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OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] SMIT PUTTING ASIDE WHETHER OR NOT THERE CLOSING SCHOOLS, WHAT THEY WANT TO FOCUS ON HIS SELLING PROPERTIES. THAT INCLUDES BOTH PARCELS AND PARKLAND. SO WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ON THE DAIS LAST TIME, YOU ALL HAD -- BROWARD THAT I DID NOT KNOW OF. WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING WITH DR. LICATA AND LORI, IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS BEFORE ANY OF THESE DISCUSSIONS WERE TAKEN IN EARNEST ABOUT SELLING ANY LAND AND PARKLAND, WE WOULD BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND BE PART OF THAT PROCESS. NOW I FEEL LIKE THAT IS REVERTED AGAIN AND MY CONCERN IS THAT WE AS A BODY NEED TO SAY, HEY, WE DO NOT WANT YOU TO SELL ANY LAND BECAUSE WE THINK WE WILL NEED FUTURE SCHOOLS HERE. IF YOU WILL CONSIDER IT, WE WANT TO BEPART OF THAT PROCESS. >> WE DID SEND THEM THE LETTER. A
>> THAT WAS BACK IN MARCH. THAT WAS BACK IN MARCH. AND THAT CREATED THE MEETING. I THINK
THAT SET UP THE MEETING THAT WE HAD. >> SO THEY UNDERSTAND OUR POSITION. I DO NOT THINK IT HAS CHANGED MUCH. YOU KNOW, AND I DO HAVE A MEETING SET UP ON MONDAY WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, FOR ME ANYWAY, IT IS MORE SO ABOUT THE LARGER PARCEL THAT IT IS ABOUT THE SMALLER PARCEL.
>> WHAT WE WERE TOLD BY DR. LICATA, I KNOW THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS MADE ON THIS DAIS LAST HIM ABOUT THE PERSON NOT BEING ABLE TO BE USED FOR SCHOOLS. WE WERE TOLD IT POTENTIALLY COULD BE USED AS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AND THAT GAVE RISE TO, WELL, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT US AS A FUTURE GROWTH AREA, WHY WOULD WE BE SHORTSIGHTED? GOD IS NOT MAKING ANY MORE REAL ESTATE. WHY WOULD BE BE SHORTSIGHTED AND SELLING OF TWO PARCELS?
>> I DO NOT BELIEVE THE 10 ACRES COULD BE, I AM NOT SOLD. I'M NOT SOLD.
>> LORI QUICKLY SHIFTED. SHE IS THE ONE THAT PUT ON TO SELL THE 10 ACRES. SHE IS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT THAT UP. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. SHE IS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT THAT UP AT THE
MEETING TO SELL THE 10 ACRES. SHE BROUGHT IT UP. >> SHE REACHED OUT TO ME AND
SAID SHE WAS GOING TO. >> SHE BROUGHT IT UP TO SELL THE 10 ACRES. INSTEAD OF SELLING IT TO BROWARD HEALTH, WHICH IS WHAT WE SAID, LOOK, IF YOU WILL SELL IT, THEY ALREADY OWN THE OTHERS, IT MAKES SENSE TO SELL IT TO THEM. INSTEAD OF THAT, SHE PUT ON TO SELL IT TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER. THAT, TO ME, DID NOT GO EXACTLY HOW OUR LETTER SAID. SO THAT LETTER DID NOT HELP MUCH. BUT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, LOOK, I ASSUME BROWARD HEALTH WOULD BE THE HIGHEST BIDDER, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. LOOK, BROWARD HEALTH COULD POTENTIALLY GET IT FOR
CHEAPER NOW BECAUSE NOW NOBODY ELSE MAY EVEN BID ON IT. >> ONCE AGAIN, I FEEL IT ONCE
AGAIN WE ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF THE LOOP. >> I DO NOT MEAN TO INTERJECT,
BUT WHAT ARE WE STILL DISCUSSING DISCUSSION ITEMS? >> NO.
>> I'M JUST MAKING SURE. >> THIS IS -- >> I'M NOT TRYING TO BE, LIKE, CONTRITE. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY --
>> WE ARE POTENTIALLY, WE ARE ESSENTIALLY TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOARD. AT THE MEETING LAST NIGHT, AGAIN, I DID NOT GET TO SEE IT ALSO. I'M NOT FULLY AWARE OF EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED. MY UNDERSTANDING IS, YES, THEY ARE NOW SUPPOSEDLY GOING TO CLOSE SOME SCHOOLS OR WHATEVER. WE WILL SEE WHAT PLAN COMES OUT FROM THAT. AND THERE WAS, WHETHER IT WAS AT THAT MEETING OR A MEETING BEFORE, OR JUST RECENTLY, LORI PUT OUT TO SELL THE 10 ACRES OF LAND, NOT TO BROWARD HEALTH, BUT TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER. AND THEN APPARENTLY ALAN ZEMAN BROUGHT UP ABOUT POTENTIALLY SELLING THE 28 ACRES OVER BY CHRIS COSTA, WHICH CAN ONLY BE USED
AS A SCHOOL, ANTHONY. MY UNDERSTANDING. >> THERE IS A DEED RESTRICTION
TO THAT EFFECT. WILL REZONE IT TO EXCELLENCE. >> I DO NOT SEE THE SCHOOL BOARD WANTED TO SELL THAT BECAUSE YOU WILL SELL IT TO A CHARTER SCHOOL WHO IS YOUR COMPETITION. SO I DO NOT SEE THAT AS A FEASIBLE OPTION. BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT CONVERSATION. SO THAT CONVERSATION WILL BE HAD, AND MAYBE THAT WILL BE OFF THE
TABLE. WHO KNOWS? >> MY PLAN WAS TO BRING THIS ENTIRE DISCUSSION, I FEEL LIKE WE HAD TO DO IT AFTER THE JUNE 5TH OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETING. IT RAISE A LOT OF CONCERNS AS TO WHY IT GOT CANCELED, BECAUSE THE WHOLE IDEA WAS, WELL, WE ARE NOT RESIZING SO WE DO NOT NEED THE MEETING OF PEOPLE CANNOT BE THERE.
>> WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR US AS A COMMISSION, SPECIFICALLY ON THE LARGER, IS IT 28 ACRES? 26? SOMETHING. WHATEVER THAT IS. THAT PARCEL, THAT LARGER PARCEL. I DO NOT SEE THE SCHOOL
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BOARD, BECAUSE IT IS DEED RESTRICTED, IF THEY THINK THEY CAN GET OUT OF THAT, SO BE IT.BUT WITH HENDRIX COMING INTO PLAY, THERE IS A POTENTIAL NEED FOR SOMETHING. WHATEVER IT IS A MIDDLE SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL, WHATEVER. THERE CAN POTENTIALLY BE A NEED. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE 900 ACRES, ALMOST, THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF HOMES. THERE WILL BE POTENTIALLY A NEED FOR SOMETHING. SO FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD TO SELL THAT LAND TO ME IS NOT VERY RESPONSIBLE, CONSIDERING THEY WOULD HAVE TO FIGHT THE DEED RESTRICTION TO EVER EXTENT. IT BEHOOVES US TO TRY TO GET ON THE BOARD AND EMAIL, WHAT HAVE YOU. WE CAN CERTAINLY SEND ANOTHER LETTER AS A COMMISSION IF WE DECIDE TO DO THAT TONIGHT. WE COULD REITERATE OUR LETTER TO THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT SINCE THAT LETTER GOES TO LICATA. BUT AS FAR AS THE 10 ACRES, I KNOW WE ARE NOT TOTALLY ON THE SAME PAGE. THE SCHOOL HAS TO RAISE MONEY.
>> THE LETTER THAT WE SENT WAS NOT TAKING A POSITION ON THE 10 ACRES. THE LETTER WE PREVIOUSLY SAID THAT WE WANTED TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS. I FEEL LIKE WE MADE PROGRESS IN THAT WE ARE REVERTING BACK. THAT IS MY CONCERN. THAT SHOWS YOU HAVE ARE THE LETTERS GO.
>> NOW HAVE A NEW SUPERINTENDENT AND WE HAVE SOME SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS.
>> THE SCHOOL BOARD SINCE THEN IS ALSO IN A HARDER POSITION. NOW THEY OWE $80 MILLION TO THE CHARTER SCHOOLS WHEN THEY DID NOT KNOW THAT WHEN WE SENT THE LETTER. SO NOW, OBVIOUSLY, MONEY IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN IT WAS EVEN BEFORE. SO I DO NOT BLAME THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR WANTING TO SELL WHATEVER THEY CAN. BUT THEY HAVE TO BE SMART WITH IT. AGAIN, I AM GOING BACK TO THE 10 ACRES. THAT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD TO SELL. THEY NEED THE MONEY, THEY CAN GET TOP DOLLAR FOR IT. I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE JUST BARGAINED. IF IT WAS UP TO ME, I WOULD HAVE NEGOTIATED WITH BROWARD HEALTH, GET THEM TO PAY WHATEVER. BUT I AM NOT ON THE SCHOOL BOARD. SO THAT IS NOT FOR ME TO DECIDE. THE 28 ACRES, THEY CANNOT SELL
THAT. >> I WOULD, AT A MINIMUM, I HEAR YOU. AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS ISSUE, SO I DO NOT WANT TO BELABOR IT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO REASSERT OUR POSITION IN THE LETTER TO DR. LICATA IN A NEW SUPERINTENDENT AND MAYBE COPY ALL THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS. BECAUSE THEY REACH OUT TO US, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT LORI, BUT THE OTHER MEMBERS WHEN THEY NEED CERTAIN THINGS, WE NEED TO GET OUR VOICES HEARD. WE WANT TO BE
PART OF THIS PROCESS. >> WE CAN RECONFIGURE THAT LETTER A BIT AND SEND IT BACK OUT, MAKE SURE IT GOES TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS. BUT AGAIN, I THINK IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A COMMISSION TO REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE 10 ACRES FOR ME IS DIFFERENT, BUT THE 20 ACRES, AND I DO NOT WANT
TO LOOK GREEDY. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. WHEN I SPEAK TO THEM, I ONLY SPEAK TO THEM AS TO WHAT MY BELIEF IS. IF WE SEND THE LETTER AS A COLLECTIVE BODY --
- OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] >> JUST MAKE SURE YOU REVIEW THAT LETTER AGAIN.
>> JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS TO ADD TO THAT. NUMBER ONE I WILL SEND IT TO NANCY, I GOT A COPY OF THE APPRAISAL THAT WAS DONE ON THE 10 ACRE PIECE THAT WAS DONE IN OCTOBER. SO THERE WERE TWO ITERATIONS. TWO RECOMMENDATIONS. ONE WAS TO, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD USE IT AS A ZONING FACILITY AND DO THAT, LEAVE IT AT THAT AND SELL IT THAT WAY. OR TWO, THEY COULD ASK THE CITY OF PARKLAND TO REZONE IT TO A COMMERCIAL FACILITY. SO, AGAIN, I DO NOT HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT ESTIMATED, IT WAS, LIKE, 17 MILLION OR COMMERCIAL 16 MILLION. IT IS NOT A PRICE. AGAIN, THE PRICE IS AN INTERESTING PIECE. PUTTING IT OUT TO BID, AND USE THAT DR. LICATA SAID YOU COULD BUILD A SCHOOL, I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS CONDUCIVE. IS NOT WHAT WAS DESIGNED IN THE FIRST PLACE. BUT IF YOU COULD, WHY WOULD A CHARTER SCHOOL BY IT? YOU ARE DEFEATING THE PURPOSE OF SELLING A PROPERTY AND COMPETING AGAINST YOURSELF AND STUDENTS. MAYBE THAT COULD BE OUR POSITION, THAT WE STRONGLY, OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, SUPPORT THE POSITION OF SELLING IT AND NEGOTIATING WITH BROWARD HEALTH, WHO OWNS THE FIRST PIECE OF THE LAND. WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF PLAN.
>> THAT IS WHY I KEEP GOING BACK TO BROWARD HEALTH. >> LIKE I SAID, I HAD
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CONVERSATIONS WITH BROWARD HEALTH. I THINK THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD LEVERAGE.WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING A EAGLES HAVEN, OTHER THINGS THEY DEFINITELY COULD DO, AND I THINK BROWARD HEALTH IS VERY IMMUNE TO THAT. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE THAT I THINK, THAT PIECE, I AGREE WITH YOU. THAT OTHER PIECE, WHEN THAT WAS ZONED, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE DEVELOPER GAVE, I THINK IT WAS WCI, WHATEVER IT WAS. WHEN A DEDICATED THAT LAND, THAT PEACE WAS STRATEGICALLY PUT THEIR SO THAT IT HIT HILLSBORO AND HILL . IT WAS DESIGNED OUT OF THE COMMUNITY. ACROSS, POTENTIALLY, FROM NOT KNOWING WHO WOULD BE A PART, BUT ESSENTIALLY A PARTS. IT IS A GREAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. IF A SCHOOL WAS EVER BUILT, IF SOMEBODY SAID LET'S GET INTO ESCALADES AND PUT A MIDDLE SCHOOL THERE, IT IS A PERFECT PLACE. BUT IT DOES OPEN ITSELF UP, INITIALLY IT WAS DESIGNED AS A K THROUGH 6. AND IT WAS LET'S MAKE IT A K THROUGH 8. THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A SPOT FOR IT.
BUT IT WAS DESIGNED, WHEN YOU HAVE A CHOICE OF WHERE TO PUT A SCHOOL AND YOU ASK ANY DEMOGRAPHER OR LAND-USE PLANNER, THAT IS A PERFECT PLAE FOR IT. SO TO GET RID OF
SOMETHING THAT IS PERFECT, IT DOES NOT PAY. >> WHEN WE HAVE 800 ACRES OF
UNDEVELOPED LAND. >> WHEN IN ROME AT NUMBERS COME BACK TO BROWARD SCHOOLS, EVEN
WITHOUT HENDRIX. >> THAT WILL NOT BE FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS.
>> AFTER THEY SIDELOAD THE TRASH. >> AGAIN, THAT IS THE IMPORTANT PIECE. THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE OF WHERE WE GOT TO WHERE WE GOT AND WHY THAT LAND IS THERE. SO CAN WE AGREE, WHEN WE DO SEND THE LETTER, TO ASK THEM TO POTENTIALLY NEGOTIATE
WITH BROWARD HEALTH? IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? >> I WANT TO BE PART OF THE
PROCESS. >> THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO US FOR ZONING. THEY CANNOT BUILD
ANYTHING WITHOUT ASKING OUR PERMISSION. >> BUT THE SCHOOL BOARD -- INAUDIBLE - LOW VOLUME ]
>> OUR HEALTH HAS TO HAVE ZONING CHANGES. IT IS NOT LIKE WE WILL NOT BE AT THE TABLE
NEGOTIATING WITH THEM. >> SHE DID.
>> I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH BROWARD HEALTH.
>> REACH OUT TO KATHY. >> GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THEIR VISION IS OR WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT. I THINK WE ARE SITTING HERE IN A BETTER POSITION THAN THE SCHOOL BOARD.
ONCE THEY SELL IT, AND UNLESS THERE ARE CONTINGENCIES, WE CONTROL IT.
>> THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT THE MONEY. >> MY VERSION, I HAVE SAID BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, MY VERSIONIS NOT TO BROWARD HEALTH, IT IS THE PROCESS. AND IT IS ESPECIALLY EXACERBATED NOW TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER PIECE.
>> WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE, I HAVE APPEARED ON THIS VERY ISSUE. I'M WORRIED IF WE DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN RECOMMEND THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN HEALTH, WE ARE SHOOTING OURSELVES IN THE FOOT. WE WOULD EXPECT THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD, NEGOTIATE WITH US IF IT EVER GOT BECOMES AVAILABLE. IF IT GOES OUT TO BID OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE SCHOOL BOARD HAVING THE DISCRETION AND AUTHORITY TO GO AND MARKET AND SELL TO WHOEVER
THEY WANT, WE LOSE CONTROL OR THE OPPORTUNITY. >> THE SECOND PIECE --
INAUDIBLE - OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] >> MY POINT IS THAT IT HAS TO BE ONE OF THE OTHER. IN SOME INSTANCES THEY PUT UP FOR BID AND IN OTHERS THEY HAVE TO DO A
DIRECT SALE. ADVOCATE FOR DIRECT SALE. >> DIRECT SALE IS NOT THE ISSUE. THE NOTION WE ARE NOW TALKING ABOUT A POTENTIAL, THE SECOND PARCEL AS WELL PUTTING IT UP FOR SALE.
MOTION AND IT IS NOT UP FOR SALE. >> IT WAS A WORKSHOP AND HE
RECOMMENDED TO SELL ALL VACANT LAND. >> IT IS NOT THAT HE
SPECIFICALLY SAID -- >> GUYS, I WANT YOU TO BE CIRCUMSPECT ABOUT HOW YOU ARE
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WRITING TO THE SCHOOL BOARD REGARDING SELLING TO A PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL OR OTHERWISE. YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU MADE THIS RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DO THIS AND NOW YOU ARE SAYING YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM THIS ZONING OR THAT ZONING BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BUILD A GIANT HOSPITAL ALL OF A SUDDEN, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU HAVE TO BE REALLY CAUTIOUS WITH HOW YOU ARE WRITING YOUR LETTERS, WHO YOU ARE WRITING IT TO.>> YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. MY INTENTION IS NOT TO ADVOCATE FOR A PARTICULAR BUYER. MY POINT WAS THAT I DID NOT LIKE THE PROCESS. I FEEL LIKE THE PROCESS , I AM LESS OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE PROCESS APPEARS TO MIXUP WITH THE PROCESS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOARD.
>> YOUR POINT IS A VERY GOOD ONE. YOUR POINT IS A VERY GOOD ONE.
>> POINT TAKEN. NANCY, DO YOU FEEL YOU ARE, DO YOU FEEL WE CAN WRAP THIS UP?
>> I THINK I AM HEARING BUT NOTHING TOO SPECIFIC. AGAIN, IT IS HAVING THE BUY-IN. I DO AGREE THAT WE HAVE A NEW SUPERINTENDENT, AND EVERYONE ON THE BOARD SHOULD BE COPIED ON THAT. I DEFINITELY WILL WORK ON THAT. I WILL FORWARD IT TO YOU ALL FOR ADDITIONAL EDITS.
>> SO WE ARE GOOD WITH THIS TOPIC? ALL RIGHT. WHO IS NEXT? ARE WE DONE? A MOTION TO
[10. Comments by the Broward Sheriff's Office]
ADJOURN? >> BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE? >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, CITY MANAGER. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. LAST NIGHT, WE HOSTED THE PARKLAND YOUTH AMBASSADORS , WE HAD OUR CRIME SCENE UNIT THERE, WE GAVE THEM A PRESENTATION, WE TOLD THEM A FEW THINGS ABOUT GATHERING EVIDENCE AND CRIME SCENE PROCESSING. AND IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL EVENT. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE HOME FOR DOGS EXPO. THESE COME AND SEE US.
STOP BY. WE WILL BE HANDING OUT SOME FREE SWAG AND WE HAVE COFFEE WITH A COP ALSO COMING
UP ON MAY 28TH AT PARKLAND BAGEL AT 8:30. >> DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE
ANYTHING? >> THE PRESIDENT ASSOCIATION, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF PRESIDENTS, THE PRESIDENT'S COUNSEL, I AM BUTCHERING THE NAME. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF A PRESIDENTS WHO WANTED TO INQUIRE ABOUT PARTNERING WITH BSO FOR MONITORING WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY. I KNOW YOU HAD SPOKEN WITH THAT GROUP BEFORE, MAYBE WE CAN GET THAT PROCESS, WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT. SOME OF OUR CONCERN IS THAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN THE PROCESS AND OTHERS WERE THAT THERE WAS A CONCERN IT MAY BE A MAIN POWER STAFFING ISSUE. I KNOW YOU HAD SPOKEN WITH THAT GROUP BEFORE, I WOULD JUST PASS THAT ALONG, TO REITERATE WITH THEM.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. A FEW OF THE COMMUNITIES HAVE REACHED OUT TO ENTER INTO TRAFFIC AGREEMENTS WITH BSO. AND THEN WHEN THEY START THE PROCESS, THEY REALIZED THAT HAVING TO BRING UP THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE, THEIR SIGNAGE, IT COST THEM TWO MUCH MONEY TO DO THAT. BUT THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY ARE IN A TRAFFIC AGREEMENT WITH US, SUCH AS THE LANDINGS AND HERON BAY WILL HAVE DETAILS AND HAVE DETAIL OFFICERS COME OUT. SO I WILL MAKE SURE TO GIVE THEM
[11. Comments by the Coral Springs-Parkland Fire Department]
THAT INFORMATION. >> ANYBODY ELSE? >> THANK YOU.
>> COMMENTS BY THE CORAL SPRINGS FIRE DEPARTMENT? >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. 144 EMS CALLS AND TO FIRE CALLS LAST MONTH. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT IT IS VERY HOT OUTSIDE AND WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE IN SOME EMERGENCIES OUT THERE. PLEASE A HYDRATE, I KNOW IT IS A SILLY REMINDER, BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. WE HAVE SEEN AN UPTICK IN THAT. SPEAKING OF THE HEAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE WATER LEVEL IN YOUR CITY IS VERY LOW. THANK YOU TO YOUR STAFF, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM TO INCREASE THE WATER COMING INTO THE CITY AND THE CANALS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE HAVE TO DRAFT OUT OF THAT WE DO NOT HAVE STATIC WATER SUPPLIES THERE. SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF ON THAT. I KNOW THE PUMP IS BEING REPLACED. SO WE EXPECTED TO GET A LITTLE BETTER. WE DO HAVE CONTINGENCY PLANS FOR WATER IN THOSE AREAS. THE STATION ALERT IS BEING INSTALLED AND SHOULD BE COMPLETED SOON, HOPEFULLY. WE WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED ON THAT.
THAT IS THE LAST MAJOR PROJECT WE HAVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU. COMMENTS BY THE CITY MANAGER? THE CITY ATTORNEY?
>> NO COMMENT,
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