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[1. Call to Order]

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HELLO, EVERYBODY. I'M CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER. TODAY IS APRIL 11, 2024, 6:00 P.M. PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF

ALLEGIANCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU. WILL CALL,

PLEASE. >> -- ABSENT. TODD ROGERS.

>> HERE. -- HERE. JOE KAPLAN. HERE.

>> ALEX -- HERE. HERE. THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION FOR

[4. Approval of Minutes]

APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING OF FEBRUARY 8,

2024? >> SECONDED BY ALEX.

>> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE AYE. >> AYE.

>> THANK YOU. BEFORE I MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT I LEFT ANYBODY THAT IS HERE FROM THE PUBLIC ON AN AGENDA ITEM THIS EVENING TO MAKE YOUR WAY UP INDIVIDUALLY.

PUT YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ON THE WHITE PAPER FOR OUR RECORDS BUT YOU'LL BE SPEAKING ON AN AGENDA ITEM AND HE WILL DO THIS BUT IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN ATTENDANCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK THIS EVENING

[7. Approval of the Agenda]

ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA ? SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEMS . ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA

THIS EVENING? >> DONE FOR ME, MR. CHAIR. TO MAKE A PUBLIC ITEM WITH ITEM EIGHT INTO THE RECORD. YES.

MR. CHAIR, BEFORE THAT INMATE, WE DID A MOTION ON THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. IF YOU SENT IT ALREADY, I MISSED IT AND I

APOLOGIZE. >> THERE WAS NO CHANGE.

A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS WRITTEN?

[8.A. Ordinance 2024-004 - Amending Future Land Use Map to Commercial Consideration of an Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Parkland, Florida, amending the Future Land Use Map of the City of Parkland Comprehensive Plan, to change the designation of approximately 25.3 acres of land generally located on the former Heron Bay golf course, west of Nob Hill Road and south of NW 66th Drive, as more particularly described in Exhibit "A" from City of Parkland R-3 to City of Parkland Commercial; providing for recertification; providing for conflicts, severability and an effective date. (Case Number LUPA24-002)]

NATHANIEL AND JOEL . >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE AYE.

>> AYE. >> THANK YOU BID ITEM 8A PRINT ORDINANCE 2024-004 PENDING FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO COMMERCIAL. CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND CONFERENCE A PLAN, TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION APPROXIMATELY 25.3 ACRES ON THE LAND GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE FORMER HURON BAY GOLF COURSE, WEST OF NOB HILL ROAD AND SOUTH OF NORTHWEST 66 DRIVE, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT A FROM ITY OF PARKLAND R-3 TO CITY OF PARKLAND COMMERCIAL, PROVIDING FOR RECERTIFICATION AND PROVIDED FOR CONFLICT, SEVERE ABILITY , AND EFFECTIVELY. CASE NUMBER

LUPA-24-00 TWO. >> -- FOR THE RECORD. PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE HAVE AN EXCITING FIRST STEP , I SHOULD SAY, FIRST STEP IN THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS. THIS IS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING OBVIOUSLY. IT IS BEEN A LOT OF HARD WORK GOING INTO THE BACKGROUND OF THIS PROJECT.

BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS THE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE PARKLAND PARCEL. NOW THE PEACE OF THE VILLAGE IN THE PARK THAT WILL AMEND THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE FROM R-3 ON OUR LOCAL MAP TO COMMERCIAL. THIS MAP GIVES US A FRAME OF REFERENCE HERE ABOUT THE PIECES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT . THE 25.3 ACRES IS SHOWN IN RED. DROPPED IN RED, THE DASHED LINE.

THAT IS OUR SUBJECT FOR TONIGHT. THANKS NUMBER TWO AND THREE HAVE ALSO SEEN PRESENTATIONS ON AS PART OF THE VILLAGE AND THE PART OF ELEMENT PROPOSALS. IT IS BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT MORE ONE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT OR PERHAPS TWO, DEPENDING ON THE ULTIMATE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. TONIGHT, SINCE THIS IS OUR LOCAL MAP OF, WE ONLY TALKINGABOUT THE 25.3 ACRES IN RED THEY ARE. THANKS NUMBER TWO AND THREE WILL GO THROUGH SIMILAR PROCESS IN THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS BUT YOU HAVE PROBABLY HEARD THE TOLL BROTHERS PRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WILL BE COMING IN FOR REVIEW THROUGH OUR DRC PROCESS FOR THE DOGLEG TO THE LEFT OR THE WOULD BE THREE UNITS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT THERE. AND OBVIOUSLY, THE JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY THEY ARE , IT SEPARATES THE SITE NUMBER TWO. YOU CAN SEE BETTER ON THIS MAP

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HERE. AGAIN, THIS IS OUR FORMER GOLF COURSE, CURRENTLY VACANT. 25.3 ACRES IS OUR SUBJECT SITE TONIGHT. SO A LITTLE BIT OF SITE HISTORY. AND JOHN HAS PUT THIS GRAPHIC TOGETHER. YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER SEEING THIS. PRETTY LONG AND RICH HISTORY ON THE PROPERTY DATING BACK TO 1997 WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED AS A GOLF COURSE AND THE HONDA CLASSIC CREDIT CLOSED IN 2019. IT WAS PURCHASED BY NFID. YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THAT RAN 26 RESIDENTIAL PIECE PROCESS UNDER A SEPARATE APPLICATION ARE JUXTAPOSED NEXT TO THE VILLAGE SITE HERE THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED. HERE IS OUR CURRENT MAP AGAIN, GENERAL AREA SHOWING THAT IS A PAR THREE DESIGNATION. THREE UNITS PER ACRE THE 25.3 ACRES WOULD HAVE GENERATED APPROXIMATELY 75 PRESIDENTIAL UNITS IF IT WAS DEVELOPED AT THE MAXIMUM INTENSITY. COMPARED TO THE DESIGNATION WE ARE PROPOSING WHICH IS COMMERCIAL ON OUR LOCAL MAP. JOHN S.T.E.A.M. HAS ESTIMATED APPROXIMATELY 150,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BASED ON THEIR CURRENT PLANS . WHAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE APPLICATION, ESPECIALLY FOR THE TRAFFIC ELEMENT, USES THE COUNTY STANDARD. THAT OVERESTIMATES THE DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS SINCE WE KNOW WE ARE WORKING WITH SOMETHING CLOSER TO THIS, 150,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE ULTIMATE DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN THE COUNTY MODEL THAT ASKS US TO ESTIMATE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AT 10,000 SQUARE FEET PER ACRE. ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS AN EXPANSION -- EXPANSION OF THE CURRENT COMMERCIAL AREAS FURTHER TO THE SOUTH IN THE CORAL SPRINGS JURISDICTION. YOU CAN SEE THE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS THERE. CONTINUING THAT SAME COMMERCIAL CONCEPT NORTH. OBVIOUSLY, WITH A MUCH MORE PARK-ESQUE DESIGN FEATURE. ELEGANT. THANK YOU. THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN YOU HAVE SEEN. PROVIDING ACCESS OFF OF NOB HILL ROAD AND PRIMARY ACCESS BEING THE NORTHERN DRIVEWAY THERE THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS A. THE SECONDARY ACCESS IS B. THIS WAS CLOSER TO 150,000 SQUARE FEET. WHERE MUCH LESS THAN WHAT THE COUNTY APPLICATION AND COUNTY MODEL WILL ASK US TO DEMONSTRATE IN TERMS OF OUR IMPACTS.

IN TERMS OF EVALUATING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS CONSISTENCY WITH OUR LOCAL PLAN, WE FOUND THAT THE AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR ADOPTED GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES, AS WELL AS THE NEXT PLAN. WE HAVE OBTAINED CAPACITY TO SERVE FROM NSID AS WELL AS OUR SOLID WASTE PROVIDER. THIS IS BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT

POTENTIAL THERE. >> THE GOLF COURSE, THE FORMER GOLF COURSE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN OUR RECERTIFIED SPACE CALCULATION SO THERE IS NO IMPACT TO LEVEL OF SERVICE.

THE THEORY IS WHERE USING PARK AND TEXANS WE ARE TAKING RESIDENTIAL DENSITY TURNING INTO COMMERCIAL WHICH IS NOT DRAW ON THE POPULATION. AND WE INCLUDED THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE COUNTY APPLICATION THERAPY AND WE WILL SEE MORE SITE-SPECIFIC TRAFFIC ANALYSES AT THE SITE PLAN LEVEL. WE WILL SAY SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC THROUGH THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS. THE COUNTY WILL ALSO BE RUNNING A TRAFFIC MODEL AND IMPACT ANALYSIS THROUGH THEIR PLANT REVIEW AS WELL. WILL BE WORKING WITH THE COMPANY WITH MITIGATION OPTIONS THROUGH THEIR PROCESS.

I WILL NOT READ THIS TO YOU, BUT I WANTED TO INCLUDE IT TO SHOW YOU THE VOLUME OF THE PUBLIC OUTRAGE THAT IS BEEN DONE TO DATE, DATING BACK TO 2021. IT FILLED THREE SLIDES.

IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO GO BACK TO, I'M HAPPY TO. I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU HOW MUCH THE CITY HAS BEEN INVOLVING THE PUBLIC THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. IT SPEAKS TO ALL THE HARD WORK THAT IS DONE INTO THIS PROJECT TO DATE. A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT GROUPS AND STAFF HERE AT THE CITY.

ULTIMATELY, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION SUBJECT TO RECERTIFICATION AT THE BROWARD COUNTY PLANNING COUNCIL. NEXT STEPS TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND WHAT IS STILL LEFT TO BE DONE. THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS.

I MENTIONED THE COUNTY. WILL BE SEEKING A CONSISTENT

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AMENDMENT AT THE COUNTY LEVEL TO CHANGE OUR DESIGNATION TO COMMERCE ON THE COUNTY MAP. YOU HAVE HEARD THE DISCUSSION OF DRAFT DESIGN GUIDELINES AND CREATE A NEW ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROPERTY. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE UNDERWAY SHORTLY AS FAR AS STARTING TO CONSIDER THE POTENTIAL FOR THE UNR PROCESS TO PUT OUT AND REVIEW THE DEVELOPMENT CONCEPTS. AT THE CITY OF PARKLAND LEVEL, AND EVENTUALLY WILL BE PROCESSING THE REZONING APPLICATION. AND A FUTURE DEVELOPER WOULD PROCESS THE SITE PLANNING APPLICATIONS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR FINAL APPROVAL. AND HONESTLY, WE HAVE TWO OTHER PARCELS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS AND THOSE ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS JURISDICTION AND SUBJECT TO THEIR LOCAL PROCESSES WITH WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE IN TERMS OF PROCESSING THE LOCAL LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE REZONING. AND ULTIMATELY, BEARING ANY ANNEXATIONS , THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO SLIGHT -- SITE PLAN APPROVAL AT THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS AS WELL. WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE NEXT STEPS OF THIS PROCESS AND LEADING US THROUGH THE PROCESS AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL GO DOWN THE LINE TONIGHT.

>> TO YOUR RIGHT. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

>> AND CAITLIN, THANK YOU, AS ALWAYS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

MY MAIN QUESTION AND CONCERN WITH THIS IS NOT, WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS JUST THE REZONING. SWITCHING THE

ZONING. >> LAND-USE .

>> THE LAND-USE . >> THE ZONING WILL COME NEXT ,

YEP. >> YOU CANNOT REZONE WITHOUT THIS.

SAID THAT MY CONCERN IS THE EXHIBITS WE ADD INTO THE BACK WITH THIS, THE VILLAGE AND THE PARK. I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE ARE HAVING AN EXHIBIT HERE. I KNOW IT IS A REFERENCE. NOW WE ARE APPROVING SOMETHING WITH THE EXHIBIT THAT IS SHOWING A CONCEPT IN HERE. WE HAVE NOT ALL VOTED ON. AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IT. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE. YOU CAME TO THEM HE GAVE OUR OPINIONS. I AM JUST CONCERNED THESE EXHIBITS ARE TIED TO THIS AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT.

>> HAS, SO THEY ARE PURELY FOR REFERENCE MATERIAL. THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT THE EXHIBITS OR THE CONCEPT PLAN TYING US TO ANY CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR ANYTHING SPECIFIC IN THAT AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, THEY APPRECIATE CONCEPTUAL PLANS JUST TO UNDERSTAND ULTIMATELY WHAT IS INTENDED FOR THE PROPERTY. THERE'D BE NOTHING THAT TIES US TO ANYTHING SPECIFIC. A GOOD LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BUT THERE WOULD NOT BE ANYTHING AS PART OF THE APPROVAL TONIGHT OR THE COMMISSION APPROVAL THAT FORCES US TO DO ANYTHING SHOWN ON THAT. IT IS JUST FOR REFERENCE AT THIS POINT.

IS THERE BUT WE ARE NOT APPROVING THIS SITE PLAN?

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> WE ARE JUST CHANGING THE

LAND-USE. OKAY. >> YES.

>> ALL OF A SUDDEN, IN OUR CITY, WE KNOW WE ARE A SMALL CITY. THIS WILL WAS AROUND THAT THIS WAS APPROVED BY PLANNING AND ZONING TONIGHT AND WE HAVE THIS EXHIBIT IN HERE. THAT WE HAVE NOT AGREED UPON. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IS CLEAR.

>> I DO NOT KNOW IF YOUR MICROPHONE IS ON OR NOT.

>> ALL RIGHT. KATELYN DID A GOOD JOB EXPLAINING THAT BUT I DO WANTED TO POINT OUT EVEN WHAT IS BEFORE YOU IS REALLY CONCEPTUAL IN NATURE BUT THAT IS NOT A FULLY ENGINEERED SITE PLAN ABOUT WHAT SHE WOULD TAKE ACTION. EVENTUALLY, THE REZONING OF THE SITE PLAN WILL GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS .

THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, THE CITY COMMISSION. THERE WILL BE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC INPUT AT EACH ONE OF THOSE STAGES ALONG THE WAY.

>> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. >> A QUESTION ABOUT THE DEVIATION BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING. IS THERE GUIDELINES , I AM CERTAIN THERE IS GOING TO BE, THIS IS WHERE IT GETS FIRST. THEY HAVE TO PUT UP THAT AREA AND SEPARATION. FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO THE COMMERCIAL ZONE PROPERTY. I'M SURE THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO WANT SOME BARRICADE THERE. SOMETHING THAT BLOCKS WHATEVER WE DO FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT. I KNOW ON THIS, IT IS PROBABLY NOT DETRIMENTAL TO WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING NOW.

IS THERE ANYTHING IN OUR GUIDELINES AND RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT WOULD BE A HURDLE FOR THE COMMERCIAL

PROJECT? >> SO THROUGH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND THE NEW ZONING DISTRICT CREATION, IT WILL

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DEAFLY BE VERY SENSITIVE TO ESTABLISHING THOSE TYPES OF BUFFERS BUT I BELIEVE ANTHONY CAN ALSO SPEAK TO, I THINK WE HAVE A RECORDED PIECE THAT TALKS ABOUT REQUIRED BUFFERS AND SEPARATIONS NEVER LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT.

>> IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THE TOTAL INTENSE WITH THE SITE THAT THEY PROVIDED TO DATE, THEY PROVIDE ENOUGH BUFFER THERE AT LEAST ON THEIR PROPERTY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE CITY ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WHICH HAS BEEN RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORD WITH THE HOA THAT HAS THE COVENANT ON THE DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTION THAT WOULD'VE BEEN IN PLACE UNTIL DECEMBER 2026. AS PART OF THAT NEGOTIATION, THE CITY COMMITTED TO PUTTING IN A CERTAIN LEVEL OF LANDSCAPING AND BUFFER BETWEEN ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THAT IS RECORDED. WELL, I THINK ULTIMATELY, IT WOULD BE UP TO THE DEVELOPER WHO IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPING AT THE COMMERCIAL PIECE. THAT IS RECORDED AGAINST THE LAND. IT WILL BE AN OBLIGATION THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AT SOME POINT. PROBABLY LIKELY BY THE PURCHASER -- FUTURE DEVELOPER OF THE COMMERCIAL SITE.

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. KATELYN? WHAT IS THE STATUS OF WHEN YOU PLAN ON THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS? WHAT IS THE PROCESS THERE? THE TIMING? WHAT HAPPENED BETTER TO HAVE -- BEFORE WE DO THINGS HERE? I'D LIKE TO GET YOUR

THOUGHTS ON THIS >> WILL BE SUBMITTING TO THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS AND LIKELY BE ROUTED THROUGH THEIR PROCESS. PROBABLY SOMETIME NEXT WEEK. WE WANTED TO REGROUP AFTER STRATEGIC PLANNING AND MAKE SURE WE WERE TAKING ALL OF THE FEEDBACK INTO CONSIDERATION TO MAKE SURE WE WERE PROCESSING THE APPLICATION IN THE MOST EXPEDIENT MANNER, GIVEN SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED. THAT WILL GO THROUGH THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS PROCESS BUT I IMAGINE CORAL SPRINGS WILL PROBABLY TRAIL A COUPLE MONTHS BEHIND WHERE DRAGON IS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DRC PROCESS THERE

SINCE IT IS OUR APPLICATION. >> IN TERMS OF, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THIS COMPANY IS GOING TO CHANGE HANDS WITH A PRIVATE OWNER DEVELOPER. THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSION HERE AND THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION AT THE CITY COMMISSION LEVEL IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL REQUIREMENTS , SPECIAL ZONING DISTRICT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. JUST BY CHANGING THE LAND-USE PLAN TONIGHT, RECOMMENDING AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD CHANGE THE LANGUAGE PLAN TONIGHT IN THE CITY EVENTUALLY VOTING ON THAT. THE COMMISSION, ASSUMING IT IS ADOPTED. WE ARE SORT OF IN THE ZONING PROCESS KIND OF, I GUESS, STATUS. IF THE PROPERTY SUDDENLY CHANGES HANDS, SOMEBODY COMES IN AND DECIDES THEY WANT TO BUY IT NEXT WEEK, WE WILL NOT BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE ARE SOMEHOW EMITTED IN TERMS OF THE RESTRICTIONS OR REQUIREMENTS, ELEMENTS WE WOULD REQUIRE FOR THIS SPECIAL ZONING DISTRICT BE CONSIDERED TO DISTRIBUTE FOR THE PARTICULAR PARCEL TODAY, THE GOOD NEWS IS THE CITY OWNS IT. WILL HAVE CONTROL OVER WHEN WE SELL IT, WHO WE SELL IT TO, AND UPON WHICH CONDITIONS WE MAY WANT TO SELL IT BUT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AT THIS TIME IT IS ANTICIPATED AT SOME POINT, IT WILL GO THROUGH IT TWO STEP PROCUREMENT PROCESS BUT THERE WILL BE A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION SO WE CAN SEE THE DEVELOPERS OUT THERE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN MAKE SURE THEY ARE QUALIFIED BEFORE WE MOVE ONTO THE NEXT RUNNER WE ARE GETTING PROPOSALS AND PRICE PROPOSALS BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE FINANCIAL STABILITY TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE A DEAL AND ALSO TO DEVELOP WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DEVELOP. I WILL ALL BE BEDDED OUT BUT IT WILL BE QUITE SOME TIME, I SUSPECT, BEFORE THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY CHANGES HANDS OF THE COMMISSION ULTIMATELY DECIDES TO APPROVE. THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION IT IS A LONG-TERM LEASE AND ULTIMATELY, THE COMMISSION DOES DECIDE TO SELL IT TO A DEVELOPER, IT WILL REQUIRE A FOR FACEBOOK. THAT

WOULD BE AN ORDINANCE. >> AT THE END OF THE DAY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS TONIGHT AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS ORDINANCE, ASSUMING IT MOVES ON FROM TONIGHT AND WAS ADOPTED BY AND ENACTED ON THE COMMISSION, THE CITY OF PARKLAND STILL CONTROLS THE FATE OF WHAT GETS BUILT ON

THIS PROPERTY? >> CORRECT.

>> ONE LAST THING. THERE WAS THE MENTION OF THE COUNTY. IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. CAN YOU TALK GENERALLY, KATELYN, ABOUT THE TYPE OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY TALKED ABOUT HERE VERSUS THE R-3 RESIDENTIAL MARKET WHAT YOU SEE WITH TRAFFIC? TRAFFIC IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS OF PARKLAND TALK ABOUT AND ARE CONCERNED WITH. NOB HILL ROAD FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS IS MY LEAST FAVORITE ROW TO BE ON AT 8:00

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IN THE MORNING. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING THIS 25 ACRES COMMERCIAL ,

>> THE GENERAL DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC PATTERN.

>> THE GENTLEMAN WHO PREPARED OUR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS. HE CAN PROBABLY BEST ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. AND THEN I WILL COME BACK WITH JUST SOME GENERAL PROCESSES AND HOW WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF MEDICATION.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM WITH TRENT SYSTEM AND TRAFFIC FOR THIS JOB SUPPORTING ON THIS EFFORT. ALLOW ME TO GO BACK TO THE REPORT. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 4 MILLION SQUARE FEET.

THIS GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THAT IS ABOUT, LET'S SEE. GOD IS ABOUT 800 TRIPS PER DAY.

THAT IS ASSUMING 250,000 WHICH IS WHAT THE COUNTY WAS

REQUIRING . >> THAT'S RIGHT. 10,000 SQUARE FEET PER ACRE. WHERE THE CITY OF PARKLAND IS , 3/5 OF THAT.

>> OUR WORK ON APPLICATION INITIALLY WILL LIKELY BE OVERSTATED IN TERMS OF THE IMPACTS UNTIL WE NEGOTIATE WITH THE COUNTY AND AGREE UPON PROBABLY SOME LESSER IMPACTS BASED ON OUR ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT . AT THIS POINT, WHAT WE THINK IS OUR ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL TARGET NUMBER.

>> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL GO BACK AND FORTH OF THE COUNTY. ONCE THEY RUN THEIR MODEL, WE WILL SEE WHAT THEY THINK IS GOING TO BE GENERATED IN TERMS OF TRIPS . THEY WILL TELL US THE TYPES OF MITIGATION PROJECTS WE ARE LOOKING AT AND WILL GO BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM. THAT IS WHERE HAVING THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN IS HELPFUL. WE CAN KIND OF POINT THEM TO THE 10,000 SQUARE FEET PER ACRE. THAT IS OVERSTATED BASED ON THIS PLAN WE REALLY THINK IS MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE DEVELOPED.

APPROXIMATELY 800 TRIPS PER DAY.

>> LET ME TO CORRECT MYSELF. >> THAT IS ABOUT 800 TRIPS PER

PEAK HOUR. >> OKAY.

>> SO DAY TRIPS IS -- TRIPS IN AND OUT.

>> THE HOURS IN TERMS OF PEAK HOURS FOR COMMERCIAL AS COMPARED TO RESIDENTIAL? CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THAT?

>> THAT IS BETWEEN 4:00 AND 6:00.

KIND OF THE BEST PRACTICE FOR TRAFFIC IS TO LOOK AT THE STREETS. THE PEAK HOUR. TO UNDERSTAND THE BEST, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC IMPACT. THAT IS 7:00 TO 9:00 A.M. AND FROM 4:00 TO 6:00 P.M. THAT IS THE PERIOD WE'RE LOOKING AT IN

THIS ANALYSIS. >> AND COMPARED TO 75 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT? GOING WITH THAT SAME RULE OF THUMB, WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT?

>> 75 RESIDENTIAL UNITS PER THAT IS ABOUT 700 TRIPS PER DAY. AT ABOUT 70 TRIPS PER PMP.

>> CAN REPEAT THOSE NUMBERS YOU JUST DATA, PLEASE?

>> WE'RE LOOKING AT 75 SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS, THAT IS ABOUT 700 TRIPS PER DAY. AND ABOUT 70 TRIPS PER PMP PEAK

HOUR. >> YOU MENTIONED 7:00 TO

9:00 A.M.. >> CORRECT.

>> DURING THE MORNING PEAK HOURS IS NEGLIGIBLE OR SIGNIFICANT OR SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE?

>> IT IS MUCH LESS BID IT IS NOT ZERO. IT IS MUCH LESS OF

THE PMP PEAK HOUR. >> YEAH, I THINK WE GOT WHAT WE NEEDED. LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT THOUGH.

FOR BEING HERE. IT IS CLEAR WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT LAND-USE TONIGHT. OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE VIEWER YOU MINUTES OF OUR MEETING, WE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES TO GET THROUGH TO TALK THROUGH. I THINK THE RESIDENTS SHOULD BE -- THERE'S A LOT WE NEED TO GET THROUGH IN MOVING FORWARD WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 75 RESIDENTS, THE RESIDENTIAL, THAT IS JUST ,

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THAT IS IS FOR CONVERSATION, RIGHT? WERE STILL LOOKING AT 53

MAX? >> THE 75 UNITS PER ACRE WAS WHAT THE 25.3 ACRES COULD HAVE DEVELOPED UNDER THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE. THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL PIECES IS A SEPARATE PROJECT UNDER TOLL BROTHERS TO THE NORTH AND THE DOGLEG. A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT NUMBERS, YEAH.

>> THAT IS ALL WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU.

>> NATHANIEL PRETTY MUCH COVERED MY QUESTION. MY CONCERNS ARE WITH THE RFP PORTION OF THIS AND HOW THAT WAS GOING TO WORK TOGETHER. YOU ANSWERED IT. IT IS TRAILING A MONTH OR TWO BEHIND. HAVE WE HAD INITIAL, HAVE THESE PLANS BEEN SHARED WITH THEM? DO WE ANTICIPATE THEY HAVE BUY-IN TO SET PLANS? YOU KNOW, SO WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE, WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT AND, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE NOT ON BOARD WITH IT. WE

COULD BE -- >> EVERYTHING I HAVE HEARD TO DATE FROM CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER PEOPLE , AND ANTHONY CAN ALSO JUMP IN, INCLUDING INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF CONCEPTUALLY HAS BEEN WE DO EXPECT THEIR SUPPORT AND THE CONCEPT OF THE COMMERCIAL AMENDMENT. THEY HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN INVITED TO ALL OF THE OPEN WORKSHOPS THE CITY HAS HAD BUT I KNOW STAFF IS BEEN HERE AND LISTENING IN. I DO NOT KNOW IF ANTHONY WANT TO SPEAK TO ANY SPECIFIC CONVERSATIONS?

>> I KNOW OUR STAFF AND THEIR STAFF HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT. THEY ARE WELL AWARE OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THERE STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF IT. I THINK THEY HAD STAFF AT AT LEAST ONE OF THE WORKSHOPS I WAS AT AND THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN WAS PRESENTED.

EVERYTHING WE HAVE HEARD FROM THEM TO THIS POINT HAS BEEN SUPPORTIVE . LET'S TALK ABOUT WORST-CASE SCENARIOS BUT AS A LAWYER, THAT IS WHAT I LIKE TO THINK OF, RIGHT? LET ME WE ARE WRONG AND IT GOES TO CORAL SPRINGS AND THEY SAY NO FOR THE PORTION IN CORAL SPRINGS BUT IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY AFFECT WHAT YOU ARE ACTING ON TODAY BUT IT MAY JUST BE WE NEED TO ADJUST THE FOOTPRINT OF THE SITE TO CONTAIN IT WITHIN THE 25 ACRES IF THAT IS THE CASE.

KEEP THAT IN MIND. THERE IS A BACKUP PLAN, IN OTHER WORDS.

IF THAT COMES TO BE. WE HAVE NO REASON AT THIS POINT TO BELIEVE THAT IS HOW IT WILL PLAY OUT. OTHER THAN THEIR COMMISSION HAS

NOT ACTED YET. >> PERFECT FOR THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS

>> ALEX? HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME?

>> I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS . THANK YOU.

>> MY COMMENTS ARE OUR GREAT JOB WITH THE PACKAGE. IT IS GOOD TO KNOW THAT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ACTING UPON IT THIS EVENING IS UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE CITY. THAT IS IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY AT THESE EARLY STAGES SO WE CAN DEVELOP OR MOLD THE CREATION WE ENVISION FOR THIS PIECE OF LAND. GOOD

JOB. >> AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE, I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING LOOKING TO THE PUBLIC FOR COMMENTS. IF THERE IS ANYBODY HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THERE IS ONE, TWO, THREE. OKAY. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, COME ON UP. GO AHEAD. RIGHT THERE. YES, SIR? DATE YOUR NAME. COME ON ALL THE WAY UP TO THE PODIUM. THERE IS A WHITE PIECE OF PAPER ON THE TABLE HERE. AFTER YOU HAVE SPOKEN, PLEASE WRITE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS DOWN. ALSO, BEFORE YOU SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SPELL IT, AND YOUR ADDRESS

PLEASE, FOR THE RECORD. >> DANIEL -- 12399 --

POLLESO. >> BEFORE YOU BEGIN, I'VE A QUESTION. DO WE HAVE A TIMER SET UP? FOR THREE MINUTES?

>> I AM NOT SEEING THE LIGHTS ON THAT.

>> TYPICALLY, WE HAVE THREE MINUTES. I WILL NOT CUT YOU

OFF, BUT A GENERAL SENSE. >> TWO QUESTIONS. THE PARCEL THAT IS IN CORAL SPRINGS, WHEN THAT GETS DEVELOPED AND WE LINK IT TO THE INCREMENTAL TRAFFIC FOR THE APARTMENT PIECE, WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC FROM BOTH COMPONENTS AS THEY GET ACTIVATED? WOULD IT BE

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SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN WE TALKED ABOUT JUST NOW? OR WILL

BE NEGLIGIBLE? >> I DON'T KNOW. I DO KNOW WHAT THE OTHER CORAL SPRINGS ABILITIES WILL BE.

>> WE WANT YOUR INPUT AND COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. WE WILL DEFINITELY, IF YOU HANG AROUND THE MEETING AFTERWARDS, WE CAN INQUIRE AND GET SOME INFORMATION BACK. FOR REACHING OUT TO STAFF TO OBTAIN THAT INFORMATION. WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD AT THIS POINT. YOUR QUESTION IS VALID AND IMPORTANT SO WE'LL GET AN ANSWER FOR

YOU. >> OKAY FOR THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS THE CITY OF PARKLAND IS TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THE RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT IN THE TOTAL PROPERTY. 50 SOME ODD HOMES TOTAL WAS PUT IN. WE SAID , I THINK WE SAID 75 HOMES ACTUALLY COULD BE ON THE 25 ACRES? I DUNNO. ARE THOSE THE NUMBERS YOU THROUGH IT BEFORE? 75 HOMES ON THE 25

ACRES? >> WHAT WAS THE NUMBER?

>> I CAN CLARIFY. UNDER THE EXISTING DESIGNATION, IF IT WERE TO BE DEVELOPED AS RESIDENTIAL AT THREE UNITS PER ACRE, THE POTENTIAL UNDER THE CURRENT LAND-USE DESIGNATION FOR PROXIMALLY 75 UNITS PER ACRE. SORRY. SORRY.

>> FOR THE 25 ACRES . >> SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE FINANCIAL REWARD OF GOING COMMERCIAL VERSUS STAYING WITH RESIDENTIAL IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT?

>> WHILE THE TALENT MAKE MORE MONEY STAYING RESIDENTIAL THAT IT WOULD BE GOING COMMERCIAL? AND MIGHT MAIN REASON FOR THIS QUESTION IS, IF YOU HAPPEN OUT ON CORAL RIDGE ROAD AND NOB HILL ROAD, YOU ARE BACKED UP TO GET TO THE HIGHWAY COULD'VE USED AT A -- START ADDING MORE CARS IN THE MORNING OR AT NIGHT, YOU ARE MAKING A NIGHTMARE. SO WHAT IS THE RETURN , RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL? FOR THE TOWN? DO

WE KNOW THAT NUMBER? >> THE COMMENTS WILL BE TAKEN UNDER CONSIDERATION AND ADDRESSED. MORE SPECIFICALLY .

WE CANNOT COME UP WITH ANSWERS IN THIS VERY INSTANT. IT IS SOMETHING -- IT BACK HE HAS DONE A COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS

YET? >> THAT IS NOT WHAT I SAID.

YOUR QUESTIONS ARE VALID. AND AS THE PROJECT WAS FORWARD, ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF QUESTIONS AND INQUIRIES THAT ONLY BY YOURSELF BUT BY ALL OF US AS RESIDENTS, WHETHER IT IS US OR CORAL SPRINGS, THEY WILL BE ADDRESSED.

>> OKAY. >> CAN WE DO -- REACH OUT TO THIS GENTLEMAN IF NOT TONIGHT, THEN ANOTHER DAY TO ANSWER?

>> ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. >> WAS NEXT TO SPEAK, PLEASE?

>> DANIEL. DANIEL. I WOULD LIKE HIM TO PUT HIS PHONE NUMBER. DANIEL, CAN YOU PLEASE SUPPLY US WITH YOUR PHONE NUMBER SO WE CAN CONTACT YOU? CAN YOU PLEASE SUPPLY US WITH YOUR PHONE NUMBER SO WE CAN REACH OUT TO YOU WITH SOME

ANSWERS AT A LATER DATE? >> HELIPAD MY NAME IS -- I LIVE AT 6870 -- AVENUE. STAMPONE. PARKLAND, FLORIDA. IN A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE AND WHATEVER DIRECTION IT GOES , YOU CHANGE OR DO NOT CHANGE IT. IT WILL BE EVENTUALLY DEVELOPED. I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DOES NOB HILL ROAD LOOK LIKE IN THAT FASHION? OBVIOUSLY, PARENTAL VISITS AT THIS NOT CAPABLE OF HANDLING IT.

I WANT TO SEE WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE FOR THE OTHER QUESTION THE OTHER GENTLEMAN TOUCHED ON. YOUKNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND YOU KEEP THE RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL, I MEAN, THE REALITY OF THAT IS THE CITY OF PARKLAND WILL MAKE MORE MONEY SELLING IT TO A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER THEN THEY ARE GOING TO SELL IT TO A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER. I HOPE THAT WHEREVER THIS PROJECT GOES THAT FROM A BUFFER PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON THE PEOPLE ON THE FRINGE OF THAT PROPERTY, THAT THERE IS VERY, VERY STRONG CONSIDERATIONS TO RESPECT THAT TO PRESERVE OUR LAND VALUES AND ALSO THE CITY. THAT'S ALL I GOT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GENTLEMEN, PLEASE RISE AND COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. FILL YOUR NAME, PLEASE.

>> IT IS BOB TANKOOS. -- AVENUE. SUCCESS ON ONE

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NORTHWEST 117TH AVENUE. I LIVE IN THE AREA THAT IS ON THAT NORTH BORDER OF THIS PROPOSED PARCEL CHANGE. I'M SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THE CODE OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, ARTICLE 20, SECTION 2190, COMPATIBILITY AND CONSISTENCY. IT IS A PARAGRAPH THAT GOES ON TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC CHANGES AROUND THE LAND USE AND ZONING AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AND MAKING SURE THEY ARE HARMONIOUS AND CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS ALREADY EXISTING THERE. I'VE NOT HEARD MUCH MENTIONED, THE ONE PERSON SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT BRIEFLY. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THIS IS GOING TO MEAN TO MY PROPERTY LIVING IN THAT LOCATION. SPECIFICALLY, FOR MYSELF AND MY NEIGHBORS . OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND HOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BUT IF THEY ARE IMPACTED, HOW WE ARE GOING TO BE COVERED FOR THAT CHANGE. BECAUSE WE SHOULD NOT REALLY HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS WORK TO BE THERE. AND I HAVE GOT TO BELIEVE IF THIS WAS IN ANY OF YOUR BACKYARDS, YOU PROBABLY WOULD NOT WANT IT THERE EITHER. SO I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BUT I'M GOING TO WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT IT AS WE GO FORWARD. I GOT INTO THIS COMMUNITY WITH, I DID NOT CARE ABOUT THE VIEW. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS

GOING TO HAPPEN IN MY BACKYARD. >> IS IS NOT AN ANSWER 10 QUESTIONS. THERE'S A REASON WHY I SAID WHAT I SAID BEFORE ABOUT THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 8TH. AND IN PAST WORKSHOPS , IF YOU LOOK BACK AT ALL OF THE MINUTES, AND ALL OF OUR RECORDED COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD HERE AND RESIDENTS, THERE IS A LITANY OF ISSUES WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH THAT ARE HEARING A LOT OF THE THINGS YOU ARE SAYING TODAY. AGAIN, I'M NOT ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS THAT I'M JUST SAYING, THE THINGS YOU BRING IT UP, WE ARE AWARE OF. WE ARE, YOU KNOW, I AM A HERON BAY RESIDENT . I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS AND I WANT TO SEE THIS DONE IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE. I THINK WHERE WE ARE TODAY IS, IT IS ABOUT AS GOOD AS YOU CAN GET WITH KNOWING WHAT THE INEVITABLE WOULD BE IF WE DID NOT COME FROM WHERE WE ARE COMING. I WANT TO REITERATE THERE IS A LOT OF INFO OUT THERE ALREADY. IT IS GREAT TO SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT. THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE AT THE WORKSHOPS AND I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF DOCUMENTED INFORMATION FROM PAST MEETINGS THAT MAY ANSWER A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS ALREADY.

I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE. THERE ARE A LOT OF HURDLES TO GET THROUGH TO WHERE YOU SEE SHOVELS IN THE GROUND.

THE CONCERNS YOU BRING UP TONIGHT ARE ONCE WE HAVE ECHOED, MIRRORED, AND HAMMERED OUT AND WANT TO SEE HAMMERED OUT. THANK YOU BUT I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

>> THANK YOU BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE MORE GENTLEMAN WHO WISHES TO SPEAK . PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR

NAME AND ADDRESS >> MY NAME IS JAMIE -- RATE. I LIVE IN HIGHLAND BAY AT 6800 NORTHWEST 116TH AVENUE. THAT IS IN OLD BRICK ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND WHEN I FIRST PURCHASED THE HOUSE, AND HAD THIS , THESE BEAUTIFUL TREES, A LOT OF NICE WILDLIFE EVERY DAY. I WONDERED IF WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO DEVELOP, ARE THEY GOING TO REMOVE ANY OF THE TREES? THE TREES ARE LARGE AND I WANT TO KNOW.

>> AGAIN, WE CAN HAVE ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS REACH OUT OR IF WE CAN GET YOUR PHONE NUMBER, WE WILL FIND OUT. WE WILL FIND OUT WHERE YOUR HOUSE IS AND HAVE IT ADDRESSED.

>> OKAY. >> AGAIN, WE MAY NOT HAVE THE ANSWER TODAY, BUT YOUR CONCERN IS OUR CONCERN AS WELL. IT IS NOT ONLY THE TREES. IT IS THE WILDLIFE. WE WATCH EVERY DAY.

>> JAMIE? I WILL HAVE OUR TEAM REACH OUT TO YOU. JUST

LEAVE US YOUR PHONE NUMBER. >> ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM THIS EVENING? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE IT TO THE PUBLIC. NATHANIEL HAS A

QUESTION . >> I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED TODAY. ACTUALLY, ONE OF THEM , DANIEL. I DO APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC ISSUE IS SOMETHING I MENTIONED EARLIER.

>> SOMETHING WE'RE ASKING FOR IN TERMS OF THE LAND USE PLAN FOR THE RATE PARCELS, HOW MANY ADDITIONAL TRIPS BESIDES THE 800 P.M. TRIPS PER HOUR. THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE ADDING

ON TO NOT HILL ROAD. >> THAT INCLUDES ALL THE

PARCELS. >> SO THE 800 PARCELS FOR THE PMP APPLIES TO SITES ONE, TWO, AND THREE?

>> I BELIEVE HE PULLED OUT JUST THE IMPACT FOR THE 25.3 ACRES.

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BUT THE ANALYSIS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, YOU'LL SEE IT ADDRESSED AS ALL THREE PARCELS BECAUSE WE WERE CREATED THAT IN PREPARATION FOR THE COUNTY APPLICATION. HE CAN CLARIFY AND CONFIRM THAT WAS JUST SPECIFIC TO THE 25 ACRES AND NOT ALL THREE PARCELS. THE LESSON IS WHETHER THE NUMBERS WE WERE PRESENTING WAS JUST FOR PARCEL ONE.

>> THREE PARCELS. DID WE PULL UP TO THE 25.3?

>> THE PREVIOUS NUMBER I GAVE YOU WAS JUST PARCEL THREE.

THAT IS 25 ACRES. NO THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS HAS , THAT IS

ON ALL THREE PARCELS. YEAH. >> I WOULD JUST ASK IF YOU WOULD STAY FOR A FEW MINUTES AFTER TONIGHT, JUST TO ADDRESS DANIEL'S QUESTION IN PARTICULAR.

THE ACTUAL NUMBER AT YOUR FINGERTIPS .

>> I DO THAT THOUGH THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TRIPS WE ARE LOOKING AT, THE TWO PARCELS IN CORAL SPRINGS. ADD THEM ALTOGETHER.

THAT IS ABOUT 21,000 TRIPS PER DAY. 21,000 TRIPS PER DAY.

JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT IS USING THE COUNTY'S 10,000 SQUARE FEET. YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MUCH SMALLER FRACTION IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT. TOOK ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 800 PMP TRIPS PER HOUR AND PER THE 25 ACRES AS

COMPARED TO ALL THREE PARCELS? >> THAT IS ABOUT 1700. YEAH.

>> ALLOW ME TO CLARIFY. THAT IS IN AND OUT. SO IT IS TWO WAY TRAFFIC. YOU ARE NOT DEALING WITH 21,000 TRIPS EVERY HOUR.

THAT IS THE ENTIRE DAY. I GUESS WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON SOME

QUESTIONS HERE. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE

THAT. >> DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU KNOW WHAT? I APOLOGIZE BUT WE CLOSED IT TO THE PUBLIC ALREADY. YES. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE STAY AFTER THE MEETING AND WE WILL TRY, EXCUSE ME. I APOLOGIZE.

AFTERWARDS, I AM WELCOMING YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS . IT IS NOW CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC.

WERE YOU HERE WHEN IT WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? OKAY. I APOLOGIZE. BUT WE WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS IF WE CAN AFTER

THE MEETING. >>

>> MAY I? >> I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT TO DO, RIGHT? IT IS MY MEETING. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO ALLOW YOU, SIR, TO COME UP TO THE DAIS.

>> INAUDIBLE - OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ]

>> YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE? >> 10372 NORTHWEST 79TH MANOR.

YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE THIS TO GO COMMERCIAL. AS I HEARD IT FROM THE PRESENTATION . THE QUESTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC MITIGATION WILL NOT BE ADDRESSED INTO -- UNTIL WHOEVER PURCHASES THIS LAND IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE TO SHOW WHAT COULD BE PUT THERE OR NOT TO PUT THEIR THAT HILL CAN SUPPORT BY THE QUESTION IS IF THE TRAFFIC STUDY COMES BACK AND SAYS THAT NOB HILL ROAD CANNOT SUPPORT ANY COMMERCIAL IN THAT AREA BECAUSE OF ALREADY HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS THERE FROM THEIR HOMES AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? YOU HAVE ALREADY, YOU REZONED IT FOR COMMERCIAL AND YOU CANNOT PUT ANY CLEAN COMMERCIAL THEY ARE. IT IS ALMOST LIKE YOU'RE GETTING THE CART BEFORE

THE HORSE. >> WE WILL TAKE YOUR COMMENTS INTO THE COUNT. WE ARE NOT REZONING THE PROPERTY TONIGHT .

THAT IS NOT -- >> IF YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION, I CAN GIVE YOU A CALL AND CLARIFY THE PROCESS AND HOW THAT WORKS WITH THE COUNTY. THERE WILL BE STUDIES AND ANALYSES THAT ARE AHEAD OF THE SITE PLAN AS PART OF THIS PROCESS WHEN IT GOES TO THE COUNTY. WE HAVE TO COMMIT TO CERTAIN LITIGATION PROJECTS AS PART OF THIS PROCESS BUT IT IS NOT ALL DEPENDENT ON THE SITE PLAN. IF YOU LEAVE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION -- AN UNDERSTAND THAT PART. IF YOU GO AHEAD AND REZONE THIS TO COMMERCIAL AND NOB HILL ROAD CANNOT SUPPORT IT, THERE IS NO ROOM TO WIDEN THE ROAD .

>> EXCUSE ME. >> SO HOW -- AN SIR? SO THAT I

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CAN CLARIFY WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS PROCESS.

>> WE WILL HAVE A CLARIFIED FOR YOU SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM NOW CLOSING IT TO THE PUBLIC AGAIN. INCREASE TO OUR BOARD WHETHER THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS

OR EMOTION? >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE ITEM -- 2024-004. >> SECOND.

>> EMOTION AND A SECOND I DEREK BIXBY. WILL CALL VOTE?

>> NATHANIEL KLITBERG . YESTERDAY JOEL KAPLAN. YES.

DEREK BIXBY. YES . ALEX LAZOWICK. -- CHAIR ZWEIG.

YES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE WILL ADDRESS THEM.

[8.B. Ordinance 2024-005 - Amending Future Land Use Map to City of Parkland R-3 Consideration of an Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Parkland, Florida, amending the Future Land Use Map of the City of Parkland Comprehensive Plan to change the designation of approximately 6.17 acres of land generally located south of Loxahatchee Road and approximately 0.6 miles west of Parkside Drive at the west terminus of Hillsboro Boulevard, as more particularly described in Exhibit "A" from Broward County E-1 to City of Parkland R-3; providing for recertification; providing for conflicts, severability and an effective date. (Case Number LUPA24-001)]

ITEM 8 PUBLIC ITEM B. ORDINANCE 2024-005 AMENDING FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO CITY OF PARKLAND R-3. CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE CITY OF PARKLAND CONFERENCE A PLAN TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 61 SEVEN ACRES OF LAND GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF LOXAHATCHEE ROAD AND APPROXIMATELY FOUR MILES WEST OF PARKSIDE DRIVE AT THE WEST TERMINUS OF HILLSBORO BOULEVARD, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT A FROM BROWARD COUNTY E 12 CITY OF PARKLAND R-3, PROVIDING FOR RECERTIFICATION, READY FOR CONFLICT, DURABILITY AND AN

EFFECTIVE DATE >> TREATMENT ANOTHER AND USE FOR YOUR FOR OUR SECOND ITEM TONIGHT. THE SUBJECT SITE FOR THIS APPLICATION IS LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF THE SELF STORAGE FACILITY WE WERE LOOKING AT THE OTHER MONTH. AND WEST OF THE CURRENT WESTERN TERMINUS OF HILLSBORO BOULEVARD IN RED THEIR BID THE SUBJECT SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 6817 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY VACANT. YOU CAN SEE THE ADJACENCY TO THE CYPRUS SITE AS WELL. HERE IS THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS A DESTINATION FOR OUR COUNTY E 1 THAT ALLOWS ONE PER ACRE. A TOTAL DEVELOPMENT MAXIMUM OF SIX RESIDENTIAL UNITS UNDER THE CURRENT ALLOWANCES SO THEY DEVELOP OUT TO THE MAXIMUM DENSITY. COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED CONDITION WHICH WOULD BE CITY OF PARKLAND R-3 WHICH WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DEVELOP THREE UNITS PER ACRE. A TOTAL OF 18 UNITS ON THE SUBJECT SITE. AGAIN, ASSUMING MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT IN INTENSITY. IT WOULD BE THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS AND THAT MAY REDUCE THE TOTAL AMOUNT THEY CAN ACTUALLY FIT ONTO THE SITE. WE WILL KIND OF LOOK AT SOME OF THE REASONS WHY IN A SLIDE OR TWO. AN IMPORTANT NOTE ON THE BROWARD COUNTY LAND USE MAP. THE SITE IS ENTITLED FOR RESIDENTIAL THREE UNITS PER ACRE. WHAT THIS APPLICATION WOULD DO IS BRING OUR PLAN INTO CONFORMITY WITH THE BROWARD COUNTY LAND USE MAP AND OF COURSE, THE CITY CAN ALWAYS BE MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE COUNTY MAPS. WHAT THIS CAN DO IS MAKE THE PROPERTY HAVE AN EQUIVALENT DENSITY ALLOWANCE ON BOTH THE COUNTY MAP AND THE LOCAL MAP AT THREE UNITS PER ACRE. SO HILLSBORO BOULEVARD OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE EXTENDED WESTWARD TO SERVE THE SITE. THE APPLICANT IS ABLE TO PROVIDE US WITH SOME SKETCHING WIGGLES OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. THE APPROXIMATE IMPACT TO THE SITE IS A REDUCTION OF AROUND 40,000 SQUARE FEET. GIVE OR TAKE AN ACRE THERE.

SINCE THE APPLICANT IS DEDICATING THE FULL VERSION OF HILLSBORO BOULEVARD IN TERMS OF CALCULATING DENSITY, THEY DO GET TO COUNT THAT AREA, THE 48,000 FEET FOR DENSITY PURPOSES. EXTENSION OF HILLSBORO DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEIR DEVELOPMENT ALLOWANCES IN TERMS OF DENSITY BUT OF COURSE, IT MAKES IT A LITTLE TIGHTER IN TERMS OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT THERE.

WORKING WITH TWO THIRDS OF THE SITE VERSUS THE ENTIRE SIX FLIGHT 17 ACRES. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT, FINDING WITH THE GOALS OBJECTIVES AND POLICY AND NOTING THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE DECISION AS A LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT. THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION CAN TAKE INTO DIFFERENT FACTORS FOR THEIR DECISION AS COMPARED TO A QUALITY MATTER. THE NEXT STEPS AND PENDING APPLICATIONS

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INCLUDE A REZONING PLAN, A SITE PLAN, AND AN APPLICATION BUT ALL OF THOSE WOULD BE REQUIRED OF THE FUTURE DEVELOPER. THIS PROVIDES THE CITY ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS AND TO PROVIDE REDEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THIS PARCEL. WITH THAT, I WILL LET THE APPLICANT PRESENT TO YOU THEIR POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. WE CAN ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> THANK YOU, CAITLIN.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING. -- FORT LAUDERDALE. MY LAST NAME IS SPELLED MELE. WE HAVE A FEW SLIDES TO SHOW AS WELL. SO YOU JUST SAW ANOTHER VERSION OF THIS AREA PHOTOGRAPHED. YOU SEE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY .

IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN BETWEEN THE TWO THINGS THAT SAY BMSD, THE UNINCORPORATED AREA. MAYBE NATHANIEL KNOWS WHAT THAT STANDS FOR?

>> TO THE NORTH WAS THE SELF STORAGE WE JUST DID. AND WE HAVE THIS PROPERTY THIS EVENING. YOU SEE WE ARE WEST OF THE TOWNHOUSE PORTION OF THE FALLS. JUST AS WE WERE WITH THE SELF STORAGE, WEST OF THE TOWNHOUSE PORTION. YOU MAY RECALL THAT WHEN WE HAD THE SITE PLAN FOR THE SELF STORAGE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE BURN WE ARE DOING BETWEEN US AND THE FALLS.

SO EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR A BUFFER BETWEEN SINGLE-FAMILY AND TOWNHOMES LIKE IN HERE, WE ARE DOING THE BURN ANYWAY , ALONG THE EAST LEDGE OF THIS PROPERTY. WE WORK WITH THE STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THE SAME THING WE ARE DOING ON THE NORTH. WE ARE FILLING IN THAT GAP SO IT IS NOT TWO BURNS. IN THE MIDDLE IT IS ONE BURN LIKE GOING TO THE NORTH.

WE HAVE AGREED TO PUT IN THAT BURN AT THE SAME TIME WE DO THAT SELF STORAGE BECAUSE THE RESIDENTIAL IS GOING TO BE LATER FOR THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS, GO AHEAD AND DO IT NOW.

GET THE MATERIAL IN THERE AND GET THE LANDSCAPING IN THERE AND LET IT GROW. WE ARE NOT PROPOSING A WALL BETWEEN WHAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE WITH SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND THE TOWNHOMES. WE WOULD HAVE A FENCE WITH HEDGE MATERIAL, ESCAPING ALL ALONG THERE. OF COURSE THERE IS A WALL NEXT TO THE SELF STORAGE BECAUSE IT IS COMMERCIAL NEXT RESIDENTIAL.

WHERE DEDICATING THE RIGHT OF FOUR FORESEEABLE BOULEVARD. WE ARE DOING THAT IN ADVANCE OF PLOTTING. EMILY YOU WOULD DEDICATE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AT THE TIME YOU PLOTTED THE SOUTHERN PIECE. WE'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO BROWARD COUNTY TRAFFIC AND BROWARD COUNTY ENGINEERING DIVISION. AND TOLD THEM WE WOULD WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET A DEED WITH BOUNDS ET CETERA. SO THAT IS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT CAITLIN SHOWED A MOMENT AGO. THIS IS JUST ZEROING IN ON THE PROPERTY A LITTLE BIT MORE. LET ME SAY THIS. I KNOW CAITLIN MENTIONED IT. ALL THIS DOES TONIGHT IS ESTABLISH THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT CAN GO ON THE PROPERTY. THAT IS WHAT LAND-USE DUSTER THAT IS NOT GUARANTEED YOU WILL GET THEM, BUT IT IS THE MAXIMUM YOU CAN HAVE. SO THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY THREE UNITS PER ACRE ON THE COUNTY PLAN. I KNOW THERE WAS A NOTATION ABOUT ONE PER ACRE COUNTY. I WILL SHOW YOU. THIS IS SOMETHING GOING BACK TO 2006. IT WAS JUST SHOWN INCORRECTLY IN 2006. SO THIS IS THE CITY'S LAND USE MAP IT IF YOU CAN SEE THE ASTERIX, I DON'T ON THE PIECE NEXT TO US INSTEAD OF ON OURS BUT IT APPLIES TO BOTH. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOWER LEFT, YOU SEE IT SAYS LAND-USE DESIGNATION BY BROWARD COUNTY. AND THE TAN COLOR IS THE ONE BREAK IN COLOR. AS CAITLYN JENNER SHOWED, WE ARE PROPOSING TO CHANGE IT TO THE GREEN COLOR WHICH WOULD BE THE THREE BREAKER. HERE IS THE COUNTY MAP, THE SAME THAT CAITLIN SHOWED. WE JUST POSITION IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. ON THE COUNTY MAP IT IS THREE UNITS PER ACRE CURRENTLY AS IS THE FALLS AND IS THE PROPERTY TO OUR WEST. SO THEN WE WENT BACK TO LOOK HISTORICALLY. THIS IS THE BROWARD COUNTY 1989 LAND USE MAP. WHY DO WE GO BACK TO 1989? THAT IS THE OF THE COUNTY REDID THE MAP FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

YOU CAN SEE THE FALLS IS THREE UNITS PER ACRE. WE ARE THREE, THE PROPERTY NEXT TO HIS THREE. ALL OF THE STUFF FURTHER EAST, WHICH I GUESS IS WHAT , SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS GO ALL THE WAY TO -- THREE UNITS PER ACRE. THIS IS THE UNINCORPORATED MAPS. I GUESS WE SHOULD ALL CALL THIS THE EMS D MAP. AND WHAT YOU SEE, IT IS ALSO SHOWING THREE UNITS PER ACRE. INTERESTING FOR THE PROPERTIES ANNEXED IN 2006 INCLUDED THE FALLS , THE PROPERTY AGENDA TONIGHT, THE

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ONE WEST OF US, AND ALSO THE EAST MARSH NURSERY. IF EVERYBODY REMEMBERS THAT NAME? THAT WAS ALSO HERE. THAT IS WHY YOU SEE THAT LITTLE PATTERN ON THE BACK. SO MUCH LIKE THE PREVIOUS ITEM , THIS CHANGES THE LAND-USE. WE STILL HAVE TO COME BACK AND REZONE IT AND WE STILL HAVE TO PLAN IT AND SITE PLANET. WE STILL HAVE TO DEED THE COB. YOU WILL BE SEEING US MULTIPLE TIMES BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU. THE KINDS OF

HOMES ARE YOU PLANNING? >> SO WOULD BE LOOKING AT SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES UNTIL WE ACTUALLY COME IN WITH THE ZONING. I DO NOT KNOW MUCH MORE ABOUT IT OTHER THAN THAT.

IT WOULD BE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

>> YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW BIG THE HOMES OF B OR THE SIZE THE

LOSS WOULD BE? >> WE DO NOT KNOW THAT YET.

CAITLIN POINTED OUT, WE WILL HAVE TO DO A LOT OF LAYOUT WITHIN THIS PIECE. WE MAY NOT GET 18. WEAPON LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS AND WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE. IT IS LIKELY TO BE IN THE R-3 DISTRICT.

>> MOST OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND OF ELEMENT, WOULD YOU BE USING HILLSBORO ARE --? THINK BACK SO THAT ACCESS TO THE SITE WOULD BE FROM HILLSBORO. LET ME JUST GO BACK TO THE AREA.

YOU WILL SEE THAT IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE BUILT, YOU CAN SEE THE LOWER LEFT-HAND PORTION OF THIS PICTURE. THEY WILL HAVE TO PICK IT UP FROM THERE AND CARRY IT FURTHER WEST.

>> THE COMMERCIAL SPACE ABOVE THAT . DO YOU PLAN TO DO THAT SIMULTANEOUSLY? WORKING ON THE STORE FACILITY?

>> THE STORAGE FACILITY WOULD BE SOONER BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY FULLY APPROVED. WHEREAS WITH THE REMAINING EQUIVALENTS WE NEED HERE IS GOING TO BE AT LEAST A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE WE CAN DO AT THE RESIDENTIAL. WE HAVE GOT TO FINISH THE LAND-USE AMENDMENT AND REZONE. WE HAVE TO LET AND WE HAVE TO SITE PLAN.

SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. ABSOLUTELY.

>> THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. JUST LOOKING AT THE MAP. JUST TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.

WOULD IT BE YOUR INTENT TO CARRY HILLSBORO THROUGH SAID

PROPERTY? >> YES. WHAT THE COUNTY'S ROLE IS IS ON THIS PROPERTY IS PLATTED , IT WILL SHOW AN EXCESS UP TO HILLSBORO BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY ROTA CAN GO TO. BUT BEFORE YOU GET THIS FIRST CO, THE ROAD HAS TO BE FINISHED BUT IT WAS THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED IN THE FALLS. THEY COULD NOT GET THEIR FIRST CO UNTIL THEY FINISHED THE CONSTRUCTION OF HILLSBORO LAZARD ON THE

PROPERTY. >> ANYTHING CAITLIN SAID IF THE RIGHT OF 44 HILLSBORO GOING THROUGH DOES NOT AFFECT THEIR ABILITY , THAT DOES NOT AFFECT THE AMOUNT OF HOMES THEY CAN FIT. SO NOW THEY COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE 18 HOMES ON A MUCH SMALLER ORAL TWO THIRDS OF THE SIX ACRE PLOT, IN THEORY?

>> CORRECT. THEY GET CREDIT FOR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THEY ARE

REQUIRED TO DEDICATE. >> THAT IS WHAT I JUST POINTED OUT EARLIER. THIS ESTABLISHES THE MAXIMUM NUMBER BUT IT DOES NOT VEST US WITH THE RIGHT FOR 18.

>> I CAN CLARIFY A LITTLE FURTHER. IT ESTABLISHES THE MAXIMUM DENSITY. WE NEED TO INCLUDE WHERE THE ROAD IS FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE ACREAGE USED FOR ONE UNIT ARE POTENTIALLY THREE UNITS PER ACRE. OBVIOUSLY, IT MAY IMPACT THE SPACE THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPLYING WITH SETBACKS , BUFFERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. GETTING

THE 18 HOMES. >> THIS PLOT HERE IS NOT AS

RESTRICTED. >> WE ARE NOT PROPOSING AN AGE RESTRICTION. WHEN THE COMP TIME TO BUILD, IF THEY WANT TO DO THAT, THEY COULD. WE ARE NOT PROPOSING THAT AT THIS TIME.

>> OKAY. IF YOU DO INTEND TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY ?

>> WE WILL LEAVE THE DEVELOPER THAT WILL BRING IN SOMEBODY TO

DO IT WITH US. >> MY CLIENT SPECIALIZES PRIMARILY IN THE SELF STORAGE . ABOUT THE PROPERTY, THIS WAS ONE PARCEL BUT HE COULD NOT BUY PART OF IT, HE HAD TO BUY THE WHOLE THING. WE ARE TRYING TO GET IT READY FOR SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND WORK WITH US ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

>> MADE, ARE YOU LOOKING TO MAKE THIS CHANGE IN ORDER TO SELL IT AND MAKE IT MORE APPEALING FOR SOMEBODY TO BUY?

OR DO YOU ANTICIPATE >> WE CERTAINLY COULD SELL IT.

SO THE QUESTION IS WHY ARE WE DOING THIS NOW? WELL,

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>> THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION. >> THAT IS WHAT I FIGURED. BY DEDICATING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY NOW SO I WANT TO AT LEAST GET THE LAND-USE IN PLACE THAT MATCHES WHAT THE COUNTY LAND-USE ALREADY IS. I DO NOT THINK, WE ARE NOT TOO MUCH READY TO GO PAST THAT AT THIS POINT. WE GET SOMEBODY IN TO DO THIS WITH US, THEY CAN COME IN WITH THE ZONING OF THE SITE PLAN OR THE PLAT. IT WOULD BE NICE TO GET THE LAND-USE MAP OUT OF THE WAY SINCE IT IS ALREADY AT THE COUNTY AND WE WOULD LIKE TO

HAVE IT MATCH HERE. >> THANK YOU. THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WHERE IT SAYS THE

SUBJECT PROPERTY. WHAT IS THAT? >> IT IS OF VACANT PARCEL.

THEY'RE DOING SOME KIND OF AN AGRICULTURAL OPERATION ON IT, I

THINK. >> WHAT IS THAT ZONE FOR RIGHT

NOW? IT IS AGRICULTURAL? >> YES. I WILL DOUBLE CHECK. I AM FAIRLY CERTAIN IT IS BROWARD COUNTY AG THERE. I WILL PULL

IT UP RIGHT NOW. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IT IS THE LAND-USE AND ALSO ZONED A-1, SAME AS US. AND IT IS STILL HIS OWN BROWARD COUNTY AND LAND-USE BROWARD COUNTY. IT IS NOT BEEN BROCK -- BROUGHT INTO PARKLAND YET ?

>> THE COUNTY, IT WAS INCORRECTLY STATED TO US IT WAS

ONE UNIT PER ACRE. >> THE FIRST QUESTION, JUST TO CONFIRM IT IS BROWARD COUNTY A-1.

>> ISA, THE CITY RELIES ON THEIR MAPS HEAVILY WHEN EVALUATING THESE APPLICATIONS. THE CITY MAP CURRENTLY LISTS IT AS BROWARD COUNTY , TRAN18. THE MAP CURRENTLY HAS IT AS R-3. APPLICATION SUBMITTED WAS A LAND-USE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION TO CHANGE IT FROM THE COUNTY OF E-1 TO CITY R-3.

THAT IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY. THAT IS THE DETERMINATION YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON VIDEO NOT BEING ASKED TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHAT THE MAP THEY HAVE LOOKED LIKE AT A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT IS APPLICATION THE APPLICANT ADMITTED. THAT INFORMATION WAS NOT NECESSARILY INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION AT THAT TIME. THAT IS WHAT IS BEING PROCESSED PURSUANT TO THE APPLICANT REQUESTED THAT IS WHAT WE ARE BEING ASKED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON BUT ULTIMATELY, THE LAND-USE PLAN AMENDMENTS ARE A LEGISLATIVE DECISION SO IT WILL BE UP TO THE CITY COMMISSION WHETHER IT DECIDES IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY TO

INCLUDED. >> BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

PHOTOGRAPH? THIS ONE? >> SO OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HILLSBORO CAN TUNING THROUGH THE PROPERTY. IN THEORY, IT WOULD CONTINUE WHERE IT SAYS THE CITY OF PARKLAND.

IS THAT HOW THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY GO ?

>> YOU WOULD HAVE TO UPON THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT

WESTERN PARCEL, CORRECT. >> SO THE BROWARD COUNTY CIVIL SERVICES DISTRICT THERE, WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO

HAPPEN WITH THAT, RIGHT? >> RIGHT. IS REQUIRING ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY FIRST. AND THEN IT WILL FOLLOW A SIMILAR PROCESS IN TERMS OF AN ENTITLEMENT FOR THE LAND-USE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SITE PLANNING.

>> SO THE RATE BOULEVARD IS ON THE BROWARD COUNTY MAP.

THERE ARE THREE PIECES OF PROPERTY BACK AND PRIZED THE GAP BETWEEN THE TWO SECTIONS OF THE ROAD. IF YOU WORK FROM THE WEST FROM UNIVERSITY TOWARD THAT IS, YOU HAVE GOT THE VERY LARGE HENDRIX FARM WHICH IS 700 ACRES. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY WITH THE WORDS OF SUBJECT PROPERTY ON IT, WHAT OF OUR PROPERTY. AND THEN YOU HAVE OURS. THOSE ARE THE THREE PIECES OF RIGHT-OF-WAY NEEDED TO CONNECT THE ROAD. WE ARE PROVIDING THE FIRST ONE WHICH WE OWN. WHEN THE GUY WAS WITH COMES IN, HE WILL PROVIDE HOURS. AND THEN WHEN HENDRIX

COMES IN, HE WILL PROVIDE HIS. >> ENTRY, WHERE IT SAYS -- WHOEVER HAS ATLANTA PROBABLY ASKED THE SAME THING.

HAVING THAT GO TO R-3? >> IN ALL LIKELIHOOD.

>> BUT WE DO NOT KNOW. THERE ARE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS RIGHT

NOW. >> CORRECT. WE ANY APPLICATIONS OR INITIAL INCREASE THAT I AM AWARE OF.

>> THANK YOU. NATHANIEL? >> WHAT RESEARCH HAS BEEN DONE TO TRY TO RESOLVE THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE LAND-USE PLAN UNITS PER ACRE HERE?

>> IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION YESTERDAY. THE PRESENTS I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH MR. WILLIE WAS THIS MORNING. THERE IS A CERTIFICATE AMOUNT OF RESEARCH THAT IS BEEN DONE TO THAT EFFECT BUT NOT YET.

ULTIMATELY, IF IT IS DETERMINED THE RESEARCH IS NECESSARY OR

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IF THE APPLICANT IS MAKING SOME SORT OF A CHANGE TO THE APPLICATION, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT FURTHER. BUT AT THIS STAGE, I'M NOT READY TO MAKE ANY DETERMINATION ON THAT.

I DID PULL UP THE PRIOR ANNEXATION, THE BILLS, THE LEGISLATIVE STAFF ANALYSIS. THERE ALONG LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS AND THAT SO IT IS FUN TO TRY TO MATCH WHICH PROPERTY YOU ARE DEALING WITH FEAR. YOU KNOW, IF IT IS THE CITY DESIRE, SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO FURTHER. BUT AT THIS TIME, THE MAP SAYS COUNTY TRAN18, AND IF THERE TO SWITCH IT FROM TRAN18 TO CITY R-3, THAT IS HOW WE HAVE BEEN PRECEDING IT.

>> AND THE QUESTION HAS BEEN RAISED IN TERMS OF AGE RESTRICTIVE -- YOUR CLIENT DOES NOT REQUEST AN AGE

RESTRICTION? >> RAGE.

>> WOULD THAT BE OF ZONING THING OR LAND-USE?

>> I GUESS THE CONDITION, OR YOU CAN MAKE AN INFORMED RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU COULD PROBABLY CONSIDER IT EITHER STAGE. AS A DISCUSSION ITEM FOR THE APPLICANT IS NOT

REQUESTING THAT AT THIS TIME. >> FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT WAS THE LAND-USE PLAN IN TERMS OF FALLING TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY? WAS IT AGE RESTRICTED R-3 AT THE LAND-USE STAGE OF

THE ZONING STAGE? >> I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. I AM NOT REMEMBERING.

>> TO REMEMBER? >> I WAS GOING TO SAY, I DO NOT RECALL AT WHICH STAGE WE DID IT BUT I JUST KNOW WE DID

IT >> THIS IS ONE OF THE SINNER IS WHERE THE LEARNER IS ASKING A QUESTION THAT HE IS NOT KNOW WHAT QUESTION -- THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION. I HAVE NO RECOLLECTION EITHER. SO IN TERMS OF THE QUESTION OF COMPATIBILITY, THE CLOSEST EXISTING PARKLAND R-3 IS

WHERE? NOT AGE RESTRICTED >> IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP, YOU SEE WHERE THE FALLS IS , AND THEN JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FALLS IT IS THREE UNITS PER ACT -- PER ACRE ON THE COUNTY MAP. LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE IT ON THE PARKLAND .

WE DID NOT MAKE THE MAP LONG ENOUGH, SEE?

>> AGAIN, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT COMPATIBILITY , HISTORICALLY, I'VE LOOKED AT THE ADJACENT PARCELS. WHAT WE HAVE IS RECTALLY TO THE SOUTH. WE HAVE R-2 . TO THE EAST WE HAVE SOME VERSION OF AGE RESTRICTED 17, WHETHER THAT IS IN THE LAND-USE PLAN DESIGNATION OR THE MONEY FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

SO -- >>

>> IF YOU COULD JUST FROM EVER SO THE PUBLIC HERE IN TERMS OF ZONING DECISION IN TERMS OF LEGISLATIVE, NOT LEGISLATIVE,

OR HYBRID. >> EFFORT A DECISION ON REZONING WHICH IS NOT BEFORE HIS TONIGHT, YOU HAVE DISCRETION YOU DO AT THE LEGISLATIVE LEVEL. AT THE LAND-USE PLAN ALLOTMENT LEVEL YOU ARE AT TODAY. THERE IS A LOT MORE DISCRETION WHEN IT GOES TO REZONING. AND IF YOU MOVE FURTHER DOWN THE PYRAMID AND BUILD A PLANT IN A SITE PLAN, THERE IS LESS DISCRETION ALONG THE WAY. ULTIMATELY, I REZONING, THERE IS QUALIFICATIONS THAT ARE IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THEY SPECIFY WHAT YOU NEED TO SHOW AND DEMONSTRATE IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR A REZONING, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE REZONING. MAYBE EVEN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS ON TOP OF THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU ARE REZONING FROM OR TWO. OR WHAT YOU INTEND TO BUILD.

THERE IS, I WOULD SAY, LESS DISCRETION AT THE REZONING LEVEL THAN THERE IS AT THE LAND-USE LEVEL.

>> WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPATIBILITY, I WILL ASK YOU TO LOOK AT THIS PICTURE ON THE SCREEN. ALTHOUGH THE FALLS IS THREE UNITS PER ACRE, THEY HAVE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING THERE. AND THE HIGHEST DENSITY HOUSING THEY HAVE ARE THE TOWNHOUSES THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY EAST OF US. THE LOWER DENSITY, SINGLE-FAMILY IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HILLSBORO BOULEVARD. THEY HAVE ROUGHLY 4000 SQUARE FEET. SOME OF THEM ARE LITTLE HIGHER AND SOME A LITTLE LOWER. ABOUT 4000. AND THE SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS, THERE ARE TWO CATEGORIES. THERE IS ONE IN THE 6000-10,000 SQUARE FOOT RANGE. AND ONE THAT IS BETWEEN 14,000 AND 20,000, ROUGHLY. ALL OF THOSE ARE SOUTH OF HILLSBORO. WHAT IS NEXT TO IS MORE DENSE THAN WE ARE GOING TO BE BECAUSE WE WILL NOT HAVE TOWNHOMES. WE WILL ONLY HAVE

SINGLE-FAMILY. >>

>> MY CONCERN IS WE SIT HERE NOW AND IT IS NOT A QUESTION OF IF, IN THE QUESTION MUCH MORE OF WIND. THERE ISSUES RELATED TO WHAT THE CURRENT ZONING IS. THIS WAS CLEARLY BROWARD COUNTY R-3. I THINK THAT ISSUE NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED. AGAIN, I DO

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HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH COMPATIBILITY. AND DENNIS, SINCE THIS IS MY LAST MEETING, AGAIN, I WILL COMMENT I THOUGHT IT WAS WEIRD YOU'LL NEED THE SENIOR COMMUNITY THE FALLS.

>> I DID NOT NAME AT THAT.

>> LET ME SHOW YOU SOMETHING. IN THE 48 HOURS SINCE I BECAME AWARE OF THIS ISSUE OF THE MAP, ALTHOUGH I WILL TELL YOU, SOON AS I BECAME AWARE OF IT, I RECALLED THE SAME THING CAME UP WHEN WE'RE DOING THE FALLS. WE CALLED IT THE JUNK AND FARM. IT ALSO HAD COUNTY THREE. BUT IN THE OTHER ROOM, IT SAYS COUNTY ONE. SO IF IT WOULD ADD COMFORT TO DELAY THIS UNTIL NEXT MONTH SO YOU CAN DO THE SAME RESEARCH I'VE DONE IN THE LAST 40 HOURS, I AM CERTAIN IT WILL CONFORM. THIS IS ON THE COUNTY LAND USE MAP AT LEAST SINCE 1989 BUT IT WAS OWNED IN 2006 BUT I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR TO GIVE THEM THE TIME TO DO THAT.

IT IS NOT GOING TO BE HARD. ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS CALL BARBARA AT THE PLANNING COUNCIL AND SHE WILL GIVE YOU AN ANSWER.

>> I PRESENT THE COMMENTS, DENNIS. AND THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS BEING HONEST, STRAIGHT , AND FRANK TO THIS BOARD. INAUDIBLE ] THE APPRECIATION.

>> NOT THIS ONE.

BE SPOKEN. IT HAS ONLY BEEN HANDED TO ME ON A PIECE OF PAPER TO ASK YOU WHETHER THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE SOLD. I

AM NOT ASKING. >>

>> I WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN. THIS REMINDS ME OF HOW PEOPLE FROM OHIO STATE TALK ABOUT US. ANYWAY. WE DO NOT HAVE A CONTRACT TO SELL TO ANYBODY.

>> I WOULD NOT EXPECT IT AT THIS POINT ANYWAY. AGAIN, I HAVE THOSE CONCERNS AT THE MOMENT. LIKE I SAID, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A QUESTION OF IF BUT IT IS MUCH MORE A QUESTION OF WHEN. THOSE ARE MY PERSONAL FEELINGS ON IT.

>> WOULD THOSE BE YOUR BRIEF QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A MUCH LONGER

QUESTION TO ASK >> NO.

>> 6:00 UNTIL 8:00 P.M. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THAT?

>> SIMILAR TO THE PANELS. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT UP.

BUT IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT IT IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HILLSBORO. THAT WOULD BE A TWO LANE ROAD WITH THE MEDIAN. THIS WILL BREAK THROUGH THE IS THE POLITIES VERY DRASTICALLY. AND SOME OF THE ONES I HAVE LOOKED AT. BUT DENNIS, ELSE APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP AND I REMEMBER THE MEETING WE SET IT AND YOU SAIDIF IT IS NOT APPROVED, WE CAN DEVELOP IT UNDER THE BROWARD COUNTY CODE.

>> IT WAS NOT A THREAT. I'M JUST SAYING THAT THERE WAS THIS CROSS-POLLINATION OF THE TWO MAPS THAT DO NOT --

>> SO WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS IS THAT THE COUNTY LAND USE AND ZONING REMAIN IN THE FRONT UNTIL AFTER THE ANNEXATION AND THE CITY THEN AT THE PROPERTY TO THE CITY LAND-USE MAP AND ZONING MAP BUT I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE WANT TO DO ANYTHING UNDER THE DECODE BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT THE

STATUTE SAYS. >> I REMEMBER WHEN THIS CAME

OUT. >> RIGHT BUT I WANT TO BE SURE THE FOLKS HERE AT CITY HALL OF HAD THE BENEFIT OF GETTING THE SAME ANSWERS I GOT IN THE LAST 48 HOURS. I THINK YOU WILL CONFIRM THAT IT WAS IN 2006, SOMETHING HAPPENED. I DO NOT KNOW HOW. IVAN CALLED -- TODAY TO SEE IF HE REMEMBERED AND HE DID NOT. I AM NOT SURPRISED. WHY WOULD HE?

>> ARE YOU INCLINED -- ARE YOU INCLINED TO DO THIS

RESEARCH AND RECONFIRM? >> WE ARE AN ADVISORY BOARD.

WE COULD ADVISE. >> THAT, I SUSPECT WE PROBABLY WILL DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH BEFORE THIS GETS TO THE COMMISSION ON THE ISSUE. YES.

>> IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT TOO BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO DO

WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. >> THANK YOU. ALEX? 2.0. ONE

PINO. >> THANK YOU, AS ALWAYS, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. BOTH OF YOU. HONESTLY, I'M MORE CONCERNED ON THE DRAINAGE ON THIS SITE.

I KNOW WE ARE NOWHERE NEAR DRAINAGE.

SUDDEN, WE ARE SAYING, R-3. HOW MANY UNITS YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE TRYING TO GET PACKED ONTO THIS SITE. I DO NOT MIND VOTING FOR THIS TONIGHT AND CHANGING IT TO R-3. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WHOEVER DEVELOPED THIS

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WILL GET INTO SITE PLANNING. THAT THEY PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT.

I CANNOT IMAGINE HOW WE ARE GOING TO PUT 18 UNITS ON THIS SITE BUT I KNOW THAT IS THE MAXIMUM. AND I LOVE THE FACT WE ARE GETTING ONE MORE PIECE OF HILLSBORO BOULEVARD THROUGH PIT I SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR CLIENT FOR DOING THAT. AND WHOEVER DEVELOPED THIS, WE AT LEAST HAVE THAT PIECE OF HILLSBORO WHICH IS CRUCIAL FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CITY.

>> WENT INTO THE ANNEXATION OF THE NORTHERN PIECE , WE SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT MAKING SURE WE PUT THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY IN PLACE AS SOON AS WE COULD FOR THAT IS WHY WE ARE PROPOSING THIS EVEN BEFORE WE PLANT THIS PIECE.

>> THAT IS WHY I AM GRATEFUL YOU GUYS ARE DOING IT BEFORE AND DEALS ARE MADE OR ANY -- SO YEAH. I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BUT YOU KNOW, I WAS THE, WE WILL BE UP WHATEVER COMES IN WITH A SITE PLAN. YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE YOUR DESIGNERS ARE READY FOR US WHEN THAT TIME COMES.

>> MY PLAN IS SITTING AND LISTENING RIGHT NOW.

>> THAT IS ALL I HAVE READ >> THANK YOU, ALEX WOOD AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I WILL OPEN UP THIS AGENDA ITEM TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE COMET WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? THING DONE, IT IS CLOSE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. ANY OTHER INTERACTION? OR IS THERE

MOTION? >> I'VE A QUESTION. IF WE CHANGE THE LANGUAGE -- IF WE CHANGE LAND-USE OVER TO R-3 AND IT IS THREE UNITS PER ACRE. IS ABLE TO CHANGE THAT TO ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT, CAN WE CHANGE THE ZONING IF THEY WANT TO? LET'S SAY WE APPROVE IT BY TWO FROM THE E-1 TO THE R-3 WITH THE INTENTION OF PUTTING HOMES ON THERE. AND THEN WE APPROVE IT THE WAY IT IS AND THEN THEY COME BACK TO US IN THE FUTURE AND SAY WE DO NOT WANT TO PUT FAMILY HOMES ON IT WE WANT TO PUT TOWNHOMES ON

IT BUT CAN THEY DO THAT? >> THEY WOULD BE MAXED OUT AT THREE UNITS PER ACRE PERIOD. WHETHER IT IS ON HIM, SINGLE-FAMILY, WHATEVER IS PROPOSED FOR THAT IS THE MAX, THREE UNITS PER ACRE. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SETTING AND ESTABLISHING THE COMMISSION ULTIMATELY PASSES THE PROPOSED

LAND-USE AMENDMENT >> THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO

MORE THAN THAT? THAT'S IT. >> THAT IS THE MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT ALLOWANCE TO CLARIFY, WE ARE FROM MR. BAILEY TONIGHT THEY WOULD INTEND TO SEEK THE R-3 ZONING WHICH IS A LOVE FOR TOWNHOMES FOR THAT WOULD BE DETACHED

SINGLE-FAMILY. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION?

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT.

>> ALEX MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? NO

SECOND? >> FOR THIS ITEM FOR THE DATE CERTAIN OF THE MAY 2024 -- AN YOU KNOW WHAT? WE HAD A LOT OF ADVERTISING. A LOT OF ADVERTISING. WE GOT THE SIGNS

UP ON BOTH OF THE -- >> I DO NOT WANT TO LEAVE THE ITEM ON THE TABLE. IF WE DO THAT, TECHNICALLY, DOES NOT GET PUT ONTO ANOTHER MEETING UNTIL IT IS TAKEN OFF THE TABLE FOR THAT IS I AM THINKING IN TERMS OF THE DATE CERTAIN.

AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE ADVERTISING ISSUES.

>> THE INITIAL MOTION IS DEAD. WE ARE NOW ENTERTAINING AND EMOTION . IF SOMETHING IS ABLE TO A DATE CERTAIN, YOU DO NOT

HAVE TO -- >> I THINK THAT GINA SPEAKING TO THE COMMISSION DATE. I SUSPECT SHE IS REFERRING TO THE COMMISSION DATES THAT ALSO INCLUDED ON THOSE ADS THAT INAUDIBLE - OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ]NEED TO BE REDONE? IF WE DO FOR THE TONIGHT TO A DATE CERTAIN, WE ARE COVERED IN TERMS OF THE NOTICE FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD FOR THE MAY MEETING. IF YOU GOT NOTICE OF THIS MEETING AND HE WANTED TO PARTICIPATE OR REVIEW IT, YOU WOULD'VE SEEN IT AND SEEN IT BE DEFERRED. I THINK THE ISSUE IS IT MAY INCUR ADDITIONAL COSTS AND FURTHER ADVERTISING FOR THE CITY

COMMISSION MEETINGS. >> IS THE MAJOR CONCERN IS TO DETERMINE IF WHAT WE SAID ABOUT THE COUNTY MAP IS ACCURATE, INSTANTLY DONE PRIOR TO THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

>> WE HAVE DONE THIS ONCE BEFORE.

>> REAL QUICK. I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU. BUT THE COST FOR ADVERTISEMENT IS THE COST FOR THE APPLICANT, NOT THE CITY.

>> >> WE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE WE HAVE ASKED I THINK IT WAS THE CHURCH. WE ASKED THEM TO MAKE SOME SUBSTANTIAL REVISIONS. WE OFFERED TO HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING TO GET APPROVED BECAUSE THEY WERE UNDER SOME

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DEADLINES. IS THERE , AND JUST, YOU KNOW? LIKE YOU SAID, WITHIN 48 HOURS, AND I THINK IT IS ONLY RIGHT WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL.

>> I WANT TO GET ALL THE FACTS. LET'S GET ALL THE FACTS AND GET IT STRAIGHT AND CLEAR. SO THE POSSIBLY -- SO THE PUBLIC

CAN UNDERSTAND BETTER >> I WAS NOT SUGGESTING YOU CANNOT DO FOR THIS ITEM BUT I WAS CLARIFYING THE COMET.

ULTIMATELY, IT IS UP TO THE APPLICANT TO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE NOTICE ISSUE OF THE CITY COMMISSION DATES GET CHANGED.

>> MAKING THAT STATEMENT DURING HIS PRESENTATION. TO ENTERTAIN

DEFERRING IT. >> THE TERM HE USED WAS DIFFERENT. IF YOU DIFFERENT OR TABLE IT , WHATEVER WOULD YOU WANT TO USE . IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT TO A DATE CERTAIN FOR THAT IS GREAT. AFTER WE ADVERTISE FOR THE CITY

COMMISSION, WE WILL DO SO. >> AGAIN, I DO NOT WANT TO LAY IT ON THE TABLE BECAUSE IT DOES NOT COME OFF. I WANT TO DEFER TO A DATE CERTAIN. BEING THE NEXT PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING. UNLESS EVERYBODY ELSE WANT TO GO TO A SPECIAL

MEETING. >>

>> METAPHORICALLY, IS THERE A DATE FOR THE MAY NEEDING TO GET

IT ON THE RECORD? >> MAY 9TH?

>> FOR THE COUNTY MAP TO MATCH, CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS WITH THIS COMMISSION?

>>

>> IT IS A RECOMMENDATION. YOU CAN MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION.

>> WHAT IS YOUR MOTION? >> I WILL WITHDRAW MINE. STILL

VOTING AGAINST -- >> MAY 9TH IS OUR NEXT MEETING.

MOTION? BE SPECIFIC IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, PLEASE MAP IS GOING TO SAY IT IS R-3 RIGHT NOW.

>> SO THE COUNTY LAND-USE MAP CURRENTLY SAYS R-3. THAT WE KNOW. BUT OUR CITY MAP CURRENTLY SAYS COUNTY E-1.

HAVE THE COUNTY TRAN18 DESIGNATION THAT IT WOULD NOT PERMIT MORE THAN ONE UNIT PER ACRE. I THINK THE PLAN, YOU WILL CORRECT ME, I AM SURE BUT I THINK THE POINT THAT IS BEING MADE IS THAT MAYBE IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN THE CITY MAP SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID E-1. IT SHOULD'VE SAID SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS NOT THE POINT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE?

>> YES. THE COUNTY MAP ACTUALLY SELLS L-3 BUT IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE TO MAKE A MOTION RE-RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS LONG AS IT IS VERIFIED BY THE CITY STAFF AND ATTORNEY, THAT THE COUNTY MAP IS, IN FACT, R-3, THAT WOULD COVER IT. I JUST HAD A CONVERSATION THIS AFTERNOON.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. THE INFORMATION OF THE DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE TWO MAPS. BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION . WAS IT BROUGHT YOUR ATTENTION BY OUR STAFF? OR BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND COMMUNICATED TO OUR STAFF?

>> WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT AND THEN WE REACHED OUT TO YOUR STAFF AND -- CALLED ME LAST NIGHT. I DID NOT GET BACK TO HIM UNTIL THIS MORNING AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT THIS MORNING. AND ALSO, IN THAT SAME TIMEFRAME, WE TALKED ABOUT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE BROWARD COUNTY PLANNING COUNCIL. SHE CONFIRMED THE MAPS I'M SHOWING YOU TONIGHT ARE CORRECT. AT LEAST SINCE 1989. WE DO NOT KNOW ABOUT BEFORE 1989. WE KNOW THAT SINCE 1989 IT HAS BEEN ON THE COUNTY MAP

THE WHOLE TIME. >> I THINK SINCE WE ARE IN ADVISORY BOARD AND THERE IS A CITY COMMISSION, WE WILL BE TAKING THE MATTER. BUT I THINK THE MOTION IS SUBJECT TO THE RESEARCH BY OUR STAFF, OUR CITY ATTORNEY. THE CITY COMMISSION THAT RELIES UPON THAT. THAT WOULD BE AN

EXECUTION METHOD. >> ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IN TERMS THAT THE COUNTY MAP IS L-3 .

IF I MAY? AS VERIFIED BY OUR STAFF.

>> AS VERIFIED . >>

>> L-3 . >> THE THREE UNIT EVIDENTIAL

DESIGNATION. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> I WILL MAKE THE SECOND. >> I AM MAKING IT.

>> SEE? TAKE A PICTURE.

>> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION.

>> READY? >> TODD ROGERS . POLLESO. NO

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. JOEL KAPLAN. NO. ALEX LAZOWICK. YES. DEREK BIXBY.

NO. ALEX LAZOWICK. NO. CHAIR ZWEIG. OKAY, THERE ARE FIVE WITH THE KNOW AND -- THAT MOTION FAILS AND WE ARE BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED FROM BEFORE WE STARTED MOTIONS.

>> AN KNOW. WHAT WE CAN DO IS BASICALLY SAY, IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND DENIAL SUBJECT TO , SINCE WE --

>> MAKE THAT MOTION. >> I AM MAKING A MIRROR IMAGE OF THE MOTION THAT JUST FAILED. AGAIN, SINCE WE DO NOT DO INAUDIBLE ] IT FAILED SO WE HAVE NOTHING.

ZERO, SO TO SPEAK. >> I WOULD RATHER YOU TABLE IT THEN MAKE A MOTION TO DENY. THE ONLY REASON IS TO VERIFY THE SITUATION. SECOND TRYING TO SAY, AGAIN, SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE NEGATIVE EMOTIONS -- AN NATHANIEL GO BACK .

>> OKAY THEN. A MOTION TO DEFER THE ITEM TO THE NEXT MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

>> THAT IS A KNIFE AND I WILL SECOND THAT PROTECT A MOTION BY NATHANIEL AND SECONDED BY DEREK. CALL FOR THE VOTE,

PLEASE? >> AND I SAY SOMETHING VERY QUICK? I WILL NOT BE HERE ON THE NINTH. PLEASE DO NOT HOLD IT AGAINST WHOEVER COMES IN TO TAKE MY PLACE.

>>

AGAIN? >> MOTION BY NATHANIEL KLITBERG AND A SECOND BY DEREK BIXBY. IT IS FOR THE DEFERMENT TO THE NEXT MEETING OF MAY 9TH FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.

>> THERE ARE NO OTHER CONDITIONS?

>> MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE MOTION IS YOU ARE JUST DIFFERENT ITEM TO THE NEXT MEETING AND YOU ARE NOT MAKING

ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ? >> CORRECT.

>> CALL FOR THE VOTE. >> UNDERSTOOD.

>> TODD ROGERS. NATHANIEL KLITBERG. YES. JOEL KAPLAN.

YES. ALEX LAZOWICK. NO. DEREK BIXBY. YES. ALEX LAZOWICK. YES. CHAIR ZWEIG. YES.

>> OKAY, 6-1. >> THANK YOU. KATELYN, ANY COMMENTS THIS EVENING FOR US?

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SEE YOU ON THE NIGHT. >> FIGURE. NATHANIEL?

>> WISH MY SIDEKICK HERE, NATHANIEL, THE BEST OF LUCK.

WE ARE WAITING FOR A BRIEF SPEECH BECAUSE I HAVE GOT TO

GO. >> I WANT TO SAY IT HAS BEEN A GREAT NINE YEARS. WORKING WITH -- NINE OF THOSE YEARS.

ANTHONY AVELLO IS NOT HERE TONIGHT . APPARENTLY, HE IS WE

LAID AT THE BARBERSHOP. >>

>> THE MANY HE ATTENDS BUT IT HAS BEEN AN AMAZING NINE PLUS YEARS ON THIS BOARD BUT I THINK WE HAVE DONE SOME QUALITY WORK IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND. AND FOR THE RESIDENTS. THERE WERE A LOT OF VERY LATE-NIGHT MEETINGS AND A LOT OF ARGUMENTS OVER WHETHER OR NOT -- WERE COUNTRY ELEGANT OR NOT. I REMEMBER THOSE. AND ONE TIME I REMEMBER HAVING THE ONE QUESTION FOR THE CHARTER SCHOOL IN ABSOLUTE PLEASURE BUT I KNOW THIS BOARD WILL CONTINUE DOING GREAT WORK FOR THE CITY OF PARKLAND. THANK YOU, ALL.

RECOGNIZE OUR MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU. IS THIS ON? THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO. I ESPECIALLY IS A THANK YOU TO NATHANIEL KLITBERG TONIGHT.

NATHANIEL HAS BEEN MY APPOINTMENT ON THIS BOARD SINCE I WAS FIRST ELECTED COMMISSIONER. I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO ME AND ALSO TO THE CITY AS WELL AND THE PREVIOUS TIME YOU HAVE BEEN HERE. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TAUGHT ME A LOT . I'VE DONE A LOT OF GREAT THINGS FOR THE CITY OF PARKLAND. YOU WILL CERTAINLY BE MISSED. ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME BIG SHOES TO FILL. BUT I AM EXCITED TO SEE THE NEW PERSON WHO WILL BE TAKING YOUR PLACE. AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL

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FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY. THIS MEETING TONIGHT WAS A LOT

OF FUN. YEAH. THANK YOU. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO

ADJOURN THE MEETING. >> SECOND.

>>

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