Jun 08, 2023 Planning and Zoning

[1. Call to Order]

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>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. INTO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> WELCOME, EVERYBODY. ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

[4. Approval of Minutes]

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MAY 11, 2023.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. QUICK SECOND.

>> ANTHONY, MOTION, SECONDED BY JOE.

>> ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >> IM. ACCIDENT

>> WE HAVE ONE AGENDA ITEM. ANY OTHER CHANGES OR ARE THERE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE AGENDA THIS EVENING? NONE. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO READ

[8.A. Consideration of a Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Parkland, Florida, approving an amendment to the Riverstone Shoppes master plan and site plan for a 7,119 square-foot, freestanding, multi-tenant outparcel building; generally located on the southwest corner of State Road 7 and Northwest 74 Place; providing for an effective date. Case numbers: MPA22-001, SPA 23-002 and CAB22-004.]

WOULD SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION, PLEASE?

>> SO MOVED. >> ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

>> IM. >> GOOD EVENING, CAN YOU HEAR ME? GREAT.

FOR THE RECORD, GAYLE EASTERLING, PLANNING AND ZONING MANAGER. TONIGHT WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

IT IS A PROPOSED OUT PARCEL BUILDING FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE RIVERSTONE SHOPPES. TODAY IN THE AUDIENCE, WE HAVE, FOR THE APPLICANT, JOSEPH SIMMON, WHO IS A PARTNER IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY AND OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

RT, WHO IS THE ARCHITECTURE THE PROJECT AND WE ALSO HAVE THE FAMILY WHO IS EXPECTED TO OCCUPY AS THE TENANT ONE OF THE SPACES IN THE BUILDING. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

THIS IS BASICALLY THE GENERAL CONCEPT OF THE APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDING. THE RIVERSTONE SHOPPING CENTER IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF 74TH PLACE AND STATE ROAD 7. CURRENTLY THERE ARE THREE BUILDINGS LOCATED ALONG THE WEST PERIMETER OF THE SITE WITH AN EXISTING SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ABOUT 61,700 SQUARE FEET. AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF 74TH AND STATE ROAD SEVEN, THE PROPOSING CONSTRUCTION OF A FREESTANDING OUT PARCEL BUILDING THAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE FIVE TENANT SPACES PLAN FOR RESTAURANT, SPORTSCENTER AND OFFICE USES.

IN THE EXISTING PLAZA, THIS IS SHOWING YOU THE THREE EXISTING BUILDINGS. THE GENERAL LOCATION OF WHERE THE SCOPE OF WORK WILL ALL OCCUR FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE OUT PARCEL BUILDING.

THIS IS NOW SUPERIMPOSING THAT BUILDING IN THE AREA OF THE SCOPE OF WORK. GIVEN THE ORIENTATION, IT WILL HAVE FORESIGHTED ARCHITECTURE, ALL FOUR SIDES WILL BE EQUALLY DRESSED. SIDEWALK ACCESS AND PARKING ON ALL FOUR SIDES. SO IT IS HIGHLY VISIBLE, SO THERE HAS BEEN GREAT DETAIL TO THE ARCHITECTURE.

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THIS IS THE LAYOUT OF THE PLANNED INTERIOR TENANT SPACES.

OF COURSE, A TENANT COULD COME IN AND POTENTIALLY TAKE TWO SPACES, OR MAYBE IN THE FUTURE ONE MIGHT A DIVIDED FRONT TO BACK. BUT THIS IS A CONCEPT TO BEGIN WITH.

I WILL POINT OUT THAT UNIT TO MAC, I BELIEVE IT'S THE 828 SQUARE-FOOT SPACE, IS PLANNED TO BE OCCUPIED BY THE SAFE SCHOOLS . ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THIS APPLICATION IS A REQUEST TO USE AN ALTERNATIVE PARKING CALCULATION FOR THE PROPERTY. NOW, IT'S NOT EXACTLY A VARIANCE, ALTHOUGH IT IS, SORT OF, SORT OF IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY IT IS. THE CODE ALLOWS YOU TO REQUEST AN ALTERNATE PARKING CALCULATION TO BE APPLIED TO THE PROPERTY. I AM SHOWING YOU NOW IS IF WE APPLIED THE CURRENT CODE CALCULATION, THIS IS HOW THE PLAZA WOULD FALL OUT. BASICALLY, THE EXISTING BUILDING REQUIRES 452 PARKING SPACES BASED ON THE CURRENT TENANT MIX.

BACK IN 2005, THERE WAS A PARKING WAIVER FOR 159 SPACES.

SO RIGHT NOW, THE BUILDING IS COMPLIANT BASED ON THAT OLD 2005 WAIVER. WHEN YOU ADD THE OUT PARCEL BUILDING, THE PHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT, DISPLACES 36 PARKING SPACES. THEN THE BUILDING ITSELF, WITH THE FIVE OR MORE TENANT SPACES, REQUIRES AN ADDITIONAL 72 SPACES. SO WHEN WE TAKE OUT 36 AND WE INCREASE THE REQUIREMENT BY 72, UNDER THE FULL CODE REQUIREMENT, THE PROJECT COMES UP 38 SPACES BELOW CODE.

NOW, ALSO, LET ME NOTE THAT THE 38 SPACES BELOW CODE WAS ALSO CONCERNING THE 159 SPACE VARIANCE GRANTED IN 2005. OKAY (LAUGHING)? THIS IS A REQUEST FOR THE ALTERNATE PARKING FORMULA. THIS IS A PLANNED SHOPPING CENTER CALCULATION THAT IS OFTEN USED IN MANY OTHER MUNICIPAL CODES.

WHAT IT DOES IS FOR MIXED USE CLASSES, IT BASICALLY BLANKETS THE ENTIRE PLAZA AT A 1- 50 RATIO.

-- -- THE OFFICE THAT IS OVER 10 PERCENT IS PULLED OUT AT A HIGHER OFFICE PARKING CALCULATION. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WITH THIS PLAZA, WHAT HAPPENS IS, THE MAJORITY OF THE PLAZA IS AT A 1 TO 50 RATIO CALCULATION.

ALL WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS THE OFFICE PERCENTAGE AND WHEN IT EXCEEDS THE 10 PERCENT, YOU GET THE 10 PERCENT AT 250, BUT ANYTHING OVER THAT GETS CALCULATED AT THE OFFICE RATIO.

SO WHAT YOU WILL SEE FOR THIS PLAZA IS WITHIN THE 10 PERCENT, BASED ON THE OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 68,800 -- THAT GETS CALCULATED AT 12 150 BECAUSE ALL OF THE OFFICE IS MEDICAL.

SO UNDER THAT NEW CALCULATION, WHICH THE APPLICANT REQUESTS JUST AS A SITE PLAN APPROVAL, THAT THIS IS THE CALCULATION FOR THIS PROJECT HE WOULD HAVE A SURPLUS OF 37 SPACES. BECAUSE THE NEW CALCULATION WOULD REQUIRE 289 SPACES. EVEN AFTER THE OUT PARCEL DEVELOPMENT, HE HAS 327 SPACES EXISTING ON THE SITE. IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION. HOWEVER, HE DID ALSO PROVIDE A PARKING UTILIZATION STUDY. WHAT THAT STUDY SHOWED IS THAT DURING PEAK SEASON, PEAK HOURS, THAT THE CENTER WOULD NOT OCCUPY AT ANY TIME MORE THAN 225 SPACES.

SO IT IS SHOWING THAT IT WORKS. YOU KNOW, UNDER THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, IT GETS KIND OF CLOSE BECAUSE THAT MEANS THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 12 OR 15 SPACES LEFT IN THE LOT.

YOU KNOW, THEY ARE GOING TO BE THE REMOTE OUTLIERS BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE RIGHT UP FRONT. SO BASED ON THE PARKING STUDY, IT WORKS. I WOULD JUST BE CAUTIOUS IF ANY OTHER HIGH INTENSITY USES WERE TO COME INTO THE PLAZA, SAY LIKE A GROCERY STORE, I THINK IT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO

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THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO SCRUTINIZE SOME OF THE SMALL TENANTS, LIKE CROSSFIT, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH WOULD PARK AT DOUBLE THE PARKING REQUIREMENT OF A RETAIL STORE. HE COULD GO IN AT THE 1 TO 250 BECAUSE OVERALL THE PLAZA IS DOING FINE. SITE INSPECTIONS.JUST FIELD OBSERVATIONS FROM THE STAFF, THE LOTS ARE USUALLY 30 TO 40 PERCENT OCCUPIED AND 50 TO 60 PERCENT UNOCCUPIED AT MOST TIMES DURING THE DAY. HERE'S SOME DETAILS OF THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS.YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE THE STACKED STONE, ELEVATED PARAPETS, SOME SLOPED ROOFING ELEMENTS AT EACH END OF THE BUILDING, AND A DECORATIVE PERGOLA. THAT WOULD PROBABLY HELP WITH SOME OUTDOOR SEEDINGS WITH SMALL RESTAURANTS THAT MAY GO IN THIS PART OF THE BUILDING, IF IT'S APPROVED.

THE BUILDING FINISHES AND MATERIALS ARE ALL MATCHING THE PLAZA. YOU WILL SEE THERE'S ARTICULATED ARCHWAYS OVER THE DOORS THAT ARE OF WOOD OR TIMBER LOOK. THE CEMENT TILE ROOFING, THE STACKED STONE, THE CORNEAL'S AROUND THE ROOFLINES. THE WINDOW PATTERNS AND MULLIONS AND LIGHT FIXTURES WILL ALL HAVE THE SAME FINISHES. SO ARCHITECTURALLY, WE ARE VERY HAPPY WITH HOW THE BUILDING HAS COME ALONG.

THE SITE PLAN, EVERYTHING SEEMS TO WORK WELL. ONE CONNECTION IS BEING MADE . THIS DRIVEWAY HERE AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING, THAT CURRENTLY DOESN'T CONNECT THROUGH. SO THAT DRIVEWAY WOULD BE OPENED NOW TO THE ENTRYWAY.

IT SHOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE THAT EASTERN PARKING FIELD MORE TO HELP SUPPORT THOSE TENANTS AT THE VERY NORTH END OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS. SO WE THINK THOSE FIELDS AT THE NORTH END WOULD BE USED MORE NOW.

SO FROM A SITE PLAN LAYOUT AND AN ARCHITECTURAL PERSPECTIVE, WE FEEL FAVORABLY FOR THE PROJECT. THE ONLY CONCERN IS THE PARKING. BASED ON HIS REQUEST AND THE PARKING STUDY THAT IS PROVIDED, THE STUDY SHOWS THAT IT WILL WORK. IT COULD BE TIGHT DURING THE HIGHEST PEAK SEASONS OF THE TIME OF DAY AND YEAR. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D

BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. >> IS THE APPLICANT GOING TO BE DOING A PRESENTATION? OR JUST ANSWERING QUESTIONS?

>> THEY ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OR IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD, FEEL FREE.

>> I ACTUALLY WANT TO START WITH SOME QUESTIONS BY ALEX, TO START WITH. > THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GREAT PRESENTATION. LOVE THE LOOK OF THE BUILDING. MOST OF MY QUESTIONS ARE AROUND THE PARKING AND THE SITE ACCESS.

I'M GUESSING THE CITY LOOKED AT THE STUDY -- THE PARKING STUDY THAT WAS PROVIDED THAT SAID THE 225 SPACES, WAS THAT PROVIDED

BY AN ENGINEER? >> YES, IT WAS DONE BY TOM HALL . IT IS A SIGNED AND SEALED PARKING UTILIZATION STUDY. HE IS AVAILABLE BY PHONE IF WE NEED TO GET INTO ANY DETAIL

QUESTIONS. >> OKAY. THAT WAS DONE OVER AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT SEASONS? YOU KNOW, WHEN A PEAK SEASON IN FLORIDA ISN'T WHAT EVERYBODY

MIGHT THINK IT IS. >> CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME ALSO SO WE CAN GET ON THE RECORD AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE) I'M THE OWNER OF NOHMIS AND ENGINEER.

SO WE DID IT TWO TIMES DURING THE YEAR, ONE TIME DURING THE SUMMER AT THE PEAK OBSERVED TIME DURING THE SUMMER LAST YEAR, AND ANOTHER TIME DURING THE WINTERTIME, WHICH ALSO WAS TRYING TO CORRESPOND AROUND THE PWINTER PEAK SEASON. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE, DURING THAT TIME THAT HE DID DO THAT, THAT STUDY, THERE WERE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES, THERE WERE VEHICLES PARKED OVERNIGHT ALMOST 24 SEVEN.

THE OWNERS HAVE ALLOWED THAT FOR THE TIME BEING.

BUT IF PARKING BECOMES AN ISSUE, THEY WILL BE ENFORCING STRICT PARKING REGULATION AND NOT ALLOWING CARS JUST TO SIT THERE FOR AN INDEFINITE AMOUNT OF TIME.

THOSE ARE ACTUALLY INCLUDED IN THAT PARKING CALCULATION THAT HE DID AND NOT NECESSARILY EXTRAPOLATED OUT. HE ALSO EXTRAPOLATED VACANCIES IN UNITS. SO BASED OFF OF THE OBSERVATION OF WHAT YOU SAW AND WHAT THOSE USES WOULD BE AND

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>> ORIGINAL VARIANCE FOR THE 159 UNITS, WAS THAT JUST GIVEN BACK IN 2005, I KNOW YOU AND I WEREN'T ON THE BOARD YET. DO YOU KNOW THE BACK STORY? WAS THAT GIVEN TO THEM BECAUSE IT WAS STARTING UP AND WE JUST WANTED TO BE HELPFUL TO THEM? WHAT WAS THE BASIS OF GIVING THAT REDUCTION?

>> MY GUESS IS THAT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT THE TIME CRUNCH FITNESS WENT IN. BECAUSE SPORTS CENTERS AND GROCERY STORES AND THEATERS, -- MAY BE THE VOCATIONAL SCHOOL? THE BEAUTY SCHOOL -- WELL, I DON'T KNOW. I DO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN 2005. I HAD TO GO BACK AND REVIEW THE RECORD BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF A SHARED PARKING CALCULATION. BUT WHEN IT WAS ALL SAID AND DONE, IT WAS REALLY A 159 SPACE REDUCTION. WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT FOR THE CONSISTING CONDITION. THAT'S WHY HE COMES UP 40 SPACES SHORT. BECAUSE WITH THAT VARIANCE ON PAPER, HE HAS LIKE A 40 SPACE SURPLUS. BUT WHEN YOU PUT IN A NEW BUILDING AND TAKE OU 40 SPACES, NOW YOU COME OUT 40 SHORT, BASICALLY.

MY GUESS WOULD BE IT MUST HAVE BEEN WITH A PARKING USER LIKE THE VOCATIONAL SCHOOL, OR POSSIBLY CRUNCH FITNESS OR A TENANT LIKE THAT IS WHAT PROMPTED THAT VARIANCE TO COME UP IN 2005. WHEN WE ARE ADDING INTO THE ALTERNATE FORMULA HE'S REQUESTING, WE ARE NOT ACKNOWLEDGING THAT OLD VARIANCE. WE ARE DOING IT STRAIGHT UNDER THE NEW CALCULATION BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TO (LAUGHING).

>> I WAS WONDERING WHERE THAT CAME FROM --

>> WERE EITHER TO GO WITH THE OLD CODE OR GO WITH THE NEW CALCULATION IN THE OLD CODE IS HISTORY.

>> OKAY. YOU MENTIONED AND BRIAN IN THE AUDIENCE YOU GUYS ARE BOTH COMFORTABLE WITH THE PARKING CALCULATIONS AND FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE

SEEN AND IT'S OKAY? >> I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

>> OKAY. >> BRIAN IS OUR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN REVIEW. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD AN OPINION ABOUT THE PARKING CALCULATIONS. HE WOULD BE MORE IN TUNE WITH

BUILDING ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU CLARIFY SOMETHING FOR ME? WE'VE HEARD FROM THE STAFF REGARDING THE APPLICATION, BUT WE HAVEN'T HEARD A PRESENTATION. DID THE APPLICANT DECLINED TO DO A PRESENTATION?

>> THAT'S WHAT I INQUIRED --

>> WE WERE UNAWARE THAT A FORMAL PRESENTATION WAS WARRANTED HERE. BUT WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND WE CAN CERTAINLY DO A PRESENTATION ON A LATER DATE IF THAT'S WHAT

YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO. >> USUALLY THERE IS AN ARCHITECT OR AN ENGINEER ON THE BEHALF. (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> THE OPENING THAT YOU MADE AT THE NORTH END TO HELP ACCESS, THAT ALSO CREATES A CONGESTION POINT RIGHT AS YOU COME IN AND OUT OF THE SITE . WAS THE TRAFFIC STUDY -- I DIDN'T SEE ANY STOP BARS OR ANY STOP SIGNS ON THE SITE PLAN.

I LOVE WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS QUICKLY THERE, BUT ANOTHER SHOPPING CENTER, IT REALLY CLUSTERS UP THE ENTRANCE THERE.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT CAN QUEUE CARS BACK ON THE ROAD, IT CAN CUE CARS IN THERE. IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE -- IT'S ALL MOST LIKE

A CHICANE AS YOU COME IN THERE. >> GAIL, IS A POSSIBLY BRINGING THE SITE PLAN SHOWING THE ONE PAGE THAT HAS THAT

INGRESS-EGRESS CUT IN IT? >> THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHIPPING IN AND OUT OF THERE.

>> IF I COULD CHIME IN? (NAME) ARCHITECT. ISN'T THE CITY GOING TO COMMUNICATE ALSO WITH THE FDO T? I KNOW ONCE THEY GET INVOLVED, THEY FORCE US TO PRETTY MUCH PUT THE REQUIRED MINIMUM SIGNAGE THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED TO ALLEVIATE ANY SORT OF CONGESTION . BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN ON-SITE PLAN? IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO GET IN FORCE, I WOULD IMAGINE. > WE SHOULD HAVE A STOP SIGN THERE.

>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THAT WAS PART OF THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION STUDY? IF THAT WAS LOOKED AT? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IT'S A WRITE ONLY OUT OF THERE.

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>> NORTHWEST 74 PLACE WILL BE A LOCAL ROAD. SO FDO T WOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THAT. ALEX BAR, CITY ENGINEER AND ALSO SOWANDE JOHNSON HAVE BOTH LOOKED AT THIS NOW FOUR-WAY INTERSECTION HERE AT THE CORNER.

THEY BOTH FOUND IT TO BE ACCEPTABLE.

WE DON'T HAVE A TRAFFIC OR ENGINEERS STUDY OF THAT, BUT WE HAVE HAD BOTH OF OUR ENGINEERS AND HOUSE LOOK AT THAT. > THIS IS THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL, CORRECTLY.

>> YES. TODAY, WE ARE APPROVING THE SITE PLAN, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT BECAUSE WE ARE ADDING INTO THE EXISTING PLAZA. ALSO THE COMMUNITY APPEARENCE BOARD, WHICH IS THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN FOR THE

BUILDING. >> GOTCHA.

>> ALSO, SECONDARY ENTRANCE OF THE BACK, --

>> ALL THE WAY BACK -- PARALLEL TO THE LAKE.

>> YEAH, RIGHT HERE. SO THIS ENTRANCE AND THERE IS ANOTHER ENTRANCE RIGHT HERE. AND THERE IS 1/3 ONE ON THE

OTHER SIDE. >> IN GENERAL, I'M GOOD WITH THE CONCEPT. I'M VERY WORRIED ABOUT THE PARKING. WE'VE SEEN OTHER SHOPS. WE LOOK AT CORAL SPRINGS WITH THE WALKER, WHERE IT IS JUST A NIGHTMARE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THERE. PARKING GETS SO TIGHT, THERE'S SO MANY YOUNG FAMILIES IN HIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT GO TO THE SHOPS. IN GENERAL, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. BUT I'M JUST VERY NERVOUS ABOUT THE PARKING IN GENERAL. BUT I'LL HEAR THE REST OF THE

BOARD -- >> THIS AREA PARKING IS PRETTY VACANT MOST OF THE TIME BECAUSE REALLY THERE'S NO ENTRANCE THERE. SO ESSENTIALLY, THAT WOULD BECOME USED MORE SO .

THERE IS A LOT OF PARKING AROUND --

>> BUT THE NEW BUILDING IS REQUIRED 72 NEW SPACES THAT WE DON'T HAVE. SO WE'RE ADDING IN MAYBE TWO NEW RESTAURANTS.

WE'RE ENGAGING THIS CORNER AND NOT ADDING ANY MORE SPACES. WE ARE ACTUALLY REMOVING THE SPACES AND ENGAGING THE SITE

MORE. >> NOW YOU HAVE ANOTHER RESTAURANT THERE THAT'LL BE BRINGING PEOPLE.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY TIGHT. ANY ELECTRIC CHARGING

STATIONS ON YOUR SITE? >> NO, NOT AT THE MOMENT.

>> I JUST HAD TO THROW THAT OUT THERE!

[LAUGHTER] >> IS THAT AN INSIDE JOKE?

[LAUGHTER] >> AM GOING TO MOVE FROM ALEX TO JOEL, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> I THINK I SAW IT ON HERE, THE MODIFIED LIGHTING PLAN WILL MATCH THE EXISTING? SITE LIGHTS?

>> YES. THERE ARE SOME HOLES THAT ARE EXISTING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING. YOU'LL SEE THEM AS THE ROUND CIRCLES DOWN HERE IN THE GREEN AREA.

>> AS LONG AS THEY MATCH EXISTING.

>> THOSE POLES ARE REMAINING, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BE ORIENTED. THE ONLY NEW LIGHT FIXTURES WILL BE WALL FIXTURES

ON THE BUILDING ITSELF. >> OKAY.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PERGOLA.

I KNOW THAT FITS THE PARKLAND MOTIF OF COUNTRY ELEGANT --

>> DON'T SAY IT! >> TY HLARATY DID! THE POSITIONING OF IT -- I'M SKEPTICAL OF IT, RIGHT? IT'S TEAK BUT IT'S GOING TO FALL APART AT SOME POINT. THEY ARE ALWAYS GOING TO FALL APART. IF THE INTENT IS TO HAVE OUTDOOR SEATING, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED BOLLARDS. THE WAY ITS POSITION, IT'S LOOKING LIKE YOU HAVE ONE OF THE SUPPORTS IN THE

SIDEWALK . IS THAT ACCURATE? >> THAT'S A GREEN AREA. BUT THE

DARKER SHADE -- >> SORRY.

SO IT'S IN A GREEN AREA. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE CLOSE TO THE ROAD. IF SOMEONE POPS A CURB, THAT'S GONE.

I LIKE THIS. I DO. I'M ON THE FENCE OF WHETHER WE SHOULD ASK HIM TO PUT THIS PERGOLA IN. YOU KNOW? I KNOW WE DID IT -- IT'S OVER AT THE TOWN CENTER.

YOU KNOW, I WONDER IF WE DON'T LOOK AT SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, OUT-OF-THE-BOX, RIGHT?BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS PERGOLA CONCEPT ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, CORRECTLY IN THE SPACE

BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS? >> OUR PURPOSE OF THIS PERGOLA WAS TO REFLECT THE COLUMNS. SO AN INVITING ENTRYWAY.

WE DID SETBACK THAT FIRST COLUMN, FURTHER AWAY. IT LOOKS

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>> IT'S GOING TO LOOK NICE -- IT LOOKS NICE. THE INTENT IS TO HAVE AN OUTDOOR SEATING AREA AT SOME POINT, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE ALL WANT. WE ALL WANT TO SEE THAT. IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT, EVERYBODY WANTS OUTDOOR

SEATING. >> IT'S A SMALL AREA.

>> IT'S A BIG STRUCTURE IN A SMALL AREA.

>> IT'S A SOCIAL GATHERING SPOT, I GUESS.

>> I WOULD SAY WE DEFINITELY NEED BOLLARDS.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE) SHOW THE SAFETY METHODS.

CRIME PREVENTION (INDISCERNIBLE) ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN . MAYBE PROVE IT SAFE? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I GUESS, WE ARE NOT SHOWING IT ADEQUATELY.

IT, THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. (LAUGHING).

>> JOEL, AND OUTDOOR SEATING WOULD REQUIRE BOLLARDS TO BE INSTALLED. BUT YOU ARE TRYING TO HEAD IT OFF NOW.

>> I GET IT. AND I'M ALL ABOUT THE APPLICANT SAVING TIME AND MONEY ON THAT. I CAN APPRECIATE WHAT IT TAKES TO COME AND PAY FOR ALL THE STUFF AND COME UP HERE. IF IT IS A GREEN AREA, PUT THEM IN. EVEN IF IT'S A CONGREGATION

AREA. >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ELEVATION? THE RENDERING, I APOLOGIZE; THE RENDERING? RIGHT THERE.

>> SO LET'S PLAY THE TAPE THROUGH THE END, RIGHT? IF YOU GET A RESTAURANT THAT WANTS TO DO OUTDOOR SEATING, YOU'RE GONNA MODIFY IT. REAGAN UP WITH SOME SORT OF COVER OVER THIS TO MAKE IT SO PEOPLE CAN EAT OUTSIDE IF THE WEATHER IS

INCLEMENT? >> TO COVER IT?

>> RIGHT. >> NOT ONE BUSINESS REALLY ONSET SPOT. (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> OKAY. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TRUCKS A PARK OVERNIGHT THERE. YOU HAVE PARKLAND MUSIC AND THERE ARE COUPLE OF SMALL CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES THAT LEAVE THEIR TRUCKS, WHAT WOULD BE THE SOUTHWEST -- SOUTHEAST SPACES. I WOULD SAY IF WE APPROVE OF THIS AS A BOARD, THOSE HAVE TO GO. THEY ARE UNSIGHTLY AS IT IS.

IT LOOKS LIKE CONSTRUCTION TRUCK PARKING.

>> THOSE HAVE BEEN THE CONCERNS OF THE MANAGEMENT AS WELL.

RIGHT NOW THEY ARE KIND OF LETTING IT SLIDE.

(INDISCERNIBLE). >> EXCUSE ME, JUST SO WE CAN GET CAPTIONING OF YOUR COMMENTS? CAN YOU SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE POSSIBLE?

THANKS. >> THAT IS THE INTENT OF THE MANAGEMENT. THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPENING. THEY LET IT SLIDE, CURRENTLY, BECAUSE THERE IS EXCESS OF PARKING AND THEY ARE TENANTS.

BUT THERE ARE CARS THAT ARE PARKED THERE THAT ARE JUST THERE FOR A WEEK. AND NOT MOVED AT ALL.

>> AS FAR AS CARS PARKING THERE, -- OTHER THAN A CAR BROKE DOWN, A CONSTRUCTION TRUCK OR U-HAUL PARKED OVERNIGHT DAY AFTER DAY IS UNSIGHTLY. AS I'M SURE YOU GUYS KNOW. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING, I THINK, WE MAKE MANDATORY THAT THAT'S GOTTA GO.

>> SOWANDE JOHNSON FOR THE RECORD. OVERNIGHT PARKING IS

NOT ALLOWED. >> HI, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS

FOR THE RECORD. >> MY NAME IS DANA (NAME) AND I AM THE WIFE OF THE OWNER OF THE MALL, ISAAC. HE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. UNFORTUNATELY, HE IS IN NEW YORK ON A BUSINESS MATTER. THE REASON WHY I'M COMING IN IN THE MIDDLE IS BECAUSE YOU ARE DISCUSSING THINGS I'VE BEEN DISCUSSING WITH MY HUSBAND. THE PERGOLA IS THERE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING FOR PARKLAND. TO MAKE IT LOOK MORE PARKLAND. BUT IT'S NOT A NECESSARY -- IT'S NOT A NECESSARY -- WE COULD REMOVE IT, IF YOU GUYS ARE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT IT, AND STRAIGHTEN OUT THE STREET SO THERE IS NO CURB OVER THERE AND

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MAKE THE DRIVING AREA WIDER. >> WE NEED A CURB. THAT'S A

GIVEN. >> SO IF YOU GUYS DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PERGOLA, WE CAN REMOVE IT. IT'S NOT A BIG PROBLEM.

>> I'M BRINGING IT UP AS A POINT OF DISCUSSION.

>> I JUST TEXTED MY HUSBAND AND I SAID YOU REALLY NEED THE PERGOLA?HE SAID NO. HE WANTED TO DO IT FOR THE ENVIRONMENT

AND THE SETTING. >> I WAS LOOKING AT IT FROM THE POINT OF IF WE ARE GOING TO DO OUTDOOR SEATING IN THE FUTURE,

WILL HAVE THE DISCUSSION. >> IT'S NOT A PROBLEM FOR US TO REMOVE IT. ANOTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION, THERE'S ACTUALLY FOUR EXITS FOR THE MALL. THERE IS NOT ONLY JUST THREE.

THERE IS THE TWO WE MENTIONED, THE ONE IN THE FRONT, AND THE ONE IN THE BACK BJ'S COMES IN. SO THAT'S ANOTHER EXIT AREA.

>> THAT INTERSECTION IS LITERALLY ANNEXED AND WAITING

TO HAPPEN. >> RIGHT, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CARS GOING THIS WAY. THERE'S MORE CARS COMING FROM 441. THE REASON WHY THAT INTERSECTION IS MORE DANGEROUS IS BECAUSE PEOPLE SPEED THERE. EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE STOP SIGNS, I KNOW I'VE BEEN THERE. ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION THAT YOU COMPARED IT TO A CERTAIN MALL THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC. THAT MALL ACTUALLY HAS WHOLE FOODS IN THERE, WHICH IS A BUSY, BUSY, BUSY FOOD STORE.

PEOPLE COME IN, GO OUT, IT'S A GROCERY STORE. WE DON'T HAVE A

GROCERY STORE IN THE SMALL. >> TRADER JOE'S.

>> BUT THE TRADER JOE'S IS IN A SEPARATE BUILDING. I KNOW WHAT

HE'S TALKING ABOUT. >> THERE'S THE SAME ISSUE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GO TO CORAL SPRINGS, WHERE THERE IS WALMART THERE? OH MY GOSH, I GOT STUCK THERE WHEN SCHOOL STARTED ON CORAL RIDGE. I ACTUALLY CALLED THE CITY TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE WAS A WHOLE LINE OUT AND THERE IS NO EXIT. THERE WERE ONLY TWO EXITS. HERE THERE ARE FOUR. THERE IS NO GROCERY STORE THAT BIG THAT WOULD CREATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

EVERY TIME I PASS THE MALL, THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING SPOTS.

BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS, THERE ARE TWO KINDS OF BUSINESSES THERE RIGHT NOW: THERE IS THE MEDICAL BUSINESS, WHICH ENDS RON 5:00, AND THEN THERE'S THE RESTAURANTS AND THE ICE CREAM PLACE, WHICH IS START LATER IN THE AFTERNOON AND INTO THE

EVENING. >> WHAT MEDICAL?

WHAT MEDICALS THERE? >> IT'S A DENTAL OFFICE.

>> SHE STATED A DENTAL OFFICE. >> RIGHT. I WAS TRYING TO KEEP UP. BUT WITH THAT CALCULATION YOU PRESENTED, IT SOUNDED LIKE P-- THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTION TO GET CLARIFICATION ON -- IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU ARE EMPHASIZING THE MEDICAL OFFICE COMPONENT THAT DIDN'T REQUIRE AS MANY SPOTS.

BUT I PRETTY MUCH ONLY KNOW THE DENTIST THAT IS THERE.

>> THE PARKING CALCULATION HAS THE TENANT LIST HERE.

WE'VE GOT NORTHWEST MEDICAL. >> SORRY, CAN YOU PLEASE PUT

THAT CHART UP ALSO? >> SURE, ABSOLUTELY.

>> THANK YOU. >> IT'S KIND OF HARD TO READ.

THE FIRST HUNDRED IS NORTHWEST MEDICAL.

YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF SALONS, TAE KWON DO, CROSSFIT, CYCLE BAR, YOGURT PRAISE, HERE IN NEW YORK, PILATES, PARKLAND DENTAL IS PROBABLY WHO YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH? BOCA BEAUTY SCHOOL, PARKLAND MUSING ACADEMY, (NAME) GRILL, EVOLUTION PERFORMING ARTS, THE WELLNESS CENTER, MILLENNIUM NAILS, NATURE WHICH IS LIKE A

NATURAL FOOD STORE -- >> HOW MANY SQUARE FOOTAGE OF

OFFICE? >> ALL TOTAL, THERE'S ROUGHLY 12,000. YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE ALTERNATIVE PARKING CALCULATION.

>> THERE'S NO VACANCY? >> EVERY SPOT IS FILLED OR THERE IS A TENANT MOVING INTO BE ACCOUNTED FOR.

>> FANTASTIC WINDOWS IS OUT? ZERO TENANT MOVING IN?

>> CROSSFIT. MOVING OVER TO WHERE I BELIEVE FANTASTIC WINDOWS WAS. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE

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GOING. >> SO IT'S 12,000 SQUARE FEET, THAT MEANS HERE SALONS ARE BEING CONSIDERED MEDICAL?

>> NO, THE HAIR SALONS ARE CONSIDERED A RETAIL PERSONAL

SERVICE. >> I'M SORRY. IT'S BLURRY, SO I CAN'T VISUALIZE WHICH ONE IS WHICH.

>> THE TOTAL OFFICE, WHEN YOU ARE CONSIDERING MEDICAL OFFICE AND GENERAL OFFICE, IT IS 12,202.

THAT WOULD BE NORTHWEST MEDICA , PARKLAND DENTAL, BOCA BEAUTY HAS AN OFFICE THERE IN ADDITION TO THE SCHOOL.

>> EVERYBODY IS CHIMING IN. LET GAIL ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS, FOR

THE RECORD. >> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

NEXT, YOU MENTIONED A SPORT CENTER. WHAT ARE WE DEFINING AS

A SPORTSCENTER? >> SPORTSCENTER'S ARE YOUR FITNESS CLUBS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS PLAZA, CROSSFIT, THE CYCLE BAR, ALL OF YOUR SMALL PERSONAL TRAINER TYPE FACILITIES.

>> OKAY. ARE YOU UTILIZING THE EXISTING DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE?

>> YES. THERE ARE FOUR ENCLOSURES LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE EXISTING BUILDING.

>> OKAY. MY NEXT COMMENT IS ABOUT THE DRAINAGE POND IN THE BACK. ACTUALLY, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A SORE POINT FOR ME. I SIT ON THE TERRA MAR'S COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION BOARD. THE BOARD, UNFORTUNATELY, OWNS ALL THE RETENTION PONDS IN THE GREATER TERRA MAR AREA, EXCEPT THIS ONE AND I THINK TO OTHERS. WE GET A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT IT.

ALGAE BLOOMS AND STUFF. IT'S HARD TO CONTROL BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PAY TO HAVE OURS AS WELL. I WOULD ASK THAT, YOU KNOW, UPON APPROVAL OF THIS, IF IT IS APPROVED, ATTENTION BE MADE TO THE UPKEEP OF THAT POND . THE EMBANKMENT AND WHAT IT ABUTS ON TO THE HOMES ON THE BACKSIDE. IT IS SOMETHING WE LOOK AT HARD AT THE TERRA MAR COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AND WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME, AND UNFORTUNATELY, MONEY MAKING SURE THE EMBANKMENTS ARE KEPT NICE AND DETAILED AND THE ALGAE IS KEPT AT A MINIMUM. WE UNFORTUNATELY DO NOT CONTROL THE WATER THAT IS MOVED IN AND OUT OF THOSE, RIGHT? BROWARD COUNTY HANDLES THAT WITH THEIR PUMPS. EVEN THE ONES THAT WE OWN, THEY ARE NOT LAKES. THERE JUST RETENTION PONDS. I GET CALLS ABOUT YOURS, PEOPLE SAINT CAN YOU CLEAN THIS POND? AND I SAY, IT'S NOT MY POND, RIGHT? I APPRECIATE THAT.

I KNOW I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE

CLARIFICATIONS. >> (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> I WAS, TO BE HONEST. I FORGOT. THANK YOU.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A TOUGH ONE, RIGHT? BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE, IF THERE ARE RESTAURANTS, THE EITHER LOAD FROM THE BACK JUST FOR THEIR TRUCK STOP AT THE BACK -- SKEWS ME THEY PARK IN THE BACK WHERE THE DUMPSTER IS . BUT WE CAN HAVE MORE RESTAURANTS THERE AND A COCA-COLA TRUCK DROPPING OFF COKE PRODUCTS AT 6:00. IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU CAN TELL COCA-COLA THEY CAN'T DELIVER AT 6:00 AND THEY SHOW UP AT 6:00, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. SO --.

>> YOUR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ARE COMPLETED?

>> YES, SIR. >> OKAY. ANTHONY.

>> LIKE TO CLARIFY THE POINT ABOUT THE RESTAURANTS? THOSE RESTAURANTS ARE VERY SMALL. THEY AREN'T LIKE THOSE HUGE RESTAURANTS THAT YOU WOULD SEE TRAFFIC DAY IN AND DAY OUT, LIKE CHEESECAKE FACTORY AND ALL THOSE BIG RESTAURANTS. THESE ARE SMALL, FAMILY-OWNED RESTAURANTS. FAMILY-OWNED ICE CREAM SHOPS. THE MUSIC STUDIO FOR THE KIDS, THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING DURING THE DAY. IT'S IN THE AFTERNOONS. SO THE BALANCE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET WITH THE OUT PARCEL IS THE SAME AS THE MAIN BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

TO AVOID CONGESTION . A LOT OF INTERESTED PARTIES FOR THE OUT

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WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY MAJOR STORES, MAJOR RESTAURANTS INTERESTED IN THE OUT PARCEL BECAUSE IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH.

>> YOU'RE STILL GOING TO NEED TO LOAD AND UNLOAD AT SOME

POINT. >> RIGHT.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE). OPERATING AT THE SAME TIME.

>> LET'S REVERT BACK TO ANTHONY'S COMMENTS . CONTINUE,

SIR. >> I HAVEN'T STARTED

(LAUGHING). >> BACK TO THE BEGINNING.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT.

I WANT TO THANK LORI L FOR BEING HERE. OUR SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER WHO HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TONIGHT AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. IT'S NICE TO SEE MAKE OUR SCHOOL SAFE IS LOOKING FOR AN OFFICE HOME . THAT'S A GREAT THING. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

SO I KNOW WHO I'M ADDRESSING, YOU, SIR, WHAT IS YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITH THIS PROJECT? I'M NOT CLEAR ON THAT.

>> AM A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER. I'M THE OWNER OF NOHMIS FIRM

THAT DESIGNS US. >> AND YOU ARE THE ARCHITECT? FABULOUS. I'VE GOT THAT STRAIGHT. I KNOW WO YOU ARE.

YOUR HUSBAND AND YOU OWN THE CENTER. VERY GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU? I'LL START OFF WITH AN EASY ONE, AND EASY QUESTION: WHY DO WE WANT THIS OUT PARCEL? THE CENTER HAS BEEN OPERATING FOR YEARS. IT HAS A PLAN. AND NOW, WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND CHANGE THE DESIGN BY PUTTING AN OUT PARCEL AT THE CORNER. CAN YOU TELL ME HOW THIS CAME ABOUT?

>> IT'S A VERY INTERESTING QUESTION (LAUGHING).

WHAT HAPPENED WAS WHEN CRUNCH WENT OUT OF BUSINESS, IT OCCUPIED MOST OF THE CENTER. AND SO, WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE TO KEEP CRUNCH IN, WE TRY TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM.

THEY DECIDED -- THEY RAN AWAY -- THEY WENT TO A DIFFERENT COUNTRY (LAUGHING).

[LAUGHTER] (LAUGHING) WE HAD TO LIQUIDATE EVERYTHING. MY HUSBAND AND I WERE SITTING THERE TRYING TO THINK. YOU KNOW, NOW WE HAVE 45 PERCENT OF THE CENTER THAT IS NOT TAKEN. WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? THAT'S HOW WE STARTED -- DECIDED THAT YOU KNOW WHAT? INSTEAD OF HAVING SOMETHING REALLY BIG, LET'S GIVE IT TO THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. LET'S GIVE THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS A CHANCE, IN PARKLAND, THAT WANT TO HAVE A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS. THAT ARE HOME-BASED.

SO THAT'S HOW WE STARTED WITH THE STEAKHOUSE. WE STARTED -- THE BEAUTY SCHOOL. THAT'S WHY WE WERE SHIFTING EVERYONE. TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR GROWTH.

BUT ALSO TRY TO GET MORE BUSINESSES TO HAVE A PLACE TO WORK. AND THEN, WHEN WE MAXED OUT AND PEOPLE WERE STILL CALLING US, YOU'RE LIKE OH MY GOSH, WHAT A BEGINNER DO NOW? WE REALIED THAT THE PARKING SPOTS WERE NOT BEING USED TO THE CAPACITY THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE USED. MY HUSBAND AND I DISCUSSED IT. I SAID YOU KNOW WHAT? IF THE CITY WILL APPROVE THE OUT PARCEL, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA. AND LORI CAME TO ME AND SAID I WANT AN OFFICE SPACE. I SAID OH GREAT, MY HUSBAND AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A PARCEL. YOU COULD PUT YOUR OFFICE RIGHT THERE BECAUSE I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF LORI. AS YOU CAN SEE, I'M WEARING HER SHIRT ALL THE TIME.

SO, YEAH. I SAID LET'S GO AHEAD AND TRY TO DO THIS.

THIS IS HOW IT ALL STARTED (LAUGHING).

>> I THINK THAT ANSWERS A LOT OF QUESTIONS HERE FOR THE BOARD AS TO HOW THIS ALL CAME ABOUT. I APPRECIATE THE ANSWER ON

THAT. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> FOR THE STAFF, JUST A QUICK YES OR NO -- DOES A PARKING

PLAN COMLY WITH OUR CODE? >> THE PARKING LAYOUT?

>> THE LAYOUT. >> YES. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU.

I SUPPORT THE PARKING PLAN. THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WE HAVE ONE RELATING TO THE EGRESS-INGRESS. DOES THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER SAY THAT THIS WILL WORK? A YES OR NO WILL BE FINE. > THERE IS NOT A TRAFFIC STUDY OF THE ACTUAL ACCESS AT THIS

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TO BE ACCEPTABLE. >> OKAY.

I SUPPORT THAT, THEN. >> HAS A FIRE DEPARTMENT REVIEW -- IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S TIED ON THEIR ON PAPER, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW WE LIVE, ON PAPER. AS A FIRE DEPARTMENT SIGNED UP THAT THEY CAN MANEUVER THEIR TRUCKS IN AN EMERGENCY?

>> YES. >> THANK YOU.

THE UTILITIES. SINCE THIS IS A BUILDING THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM FOUR CORNERS, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THE UTILITY CONNECTIONS, THE PO BOXES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE STOP HOW ARE WE HANDLING -- HOW ARE WE HANDLING THAT, AS IT RELATES TO

THIS BUILDING? >> THERE ARE SOME EXTERIOR PANELS MOUNTED IN THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING.

AND THE MATERIAL DETAIL, YOU SEE DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND CORNER, THERE WILL BE A SMALL SECTION OF FENCING ABOUT, MAYBE, EIGHT OR 10 FEET WIDE, THAT WILL BE PLACED TO SCREEN THE VIEW OF THE METERS ON THE WALL.

>> ARE YOU DISPLAYING THAT SOMEWHERE? BECAUSE I'M NOT SEEING IT ON THE SCREEN.

>> SO THE FENCE MATERIAL IS SHOWN ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT.

IT'S KIND OF A METAL PANEL THAT IS VERY DECORATIVE.

>> SO IT IS ADDRESSED? >> YES.

>> OKAY. >> THEN THE PANELS COME IF YOU CAN SEE THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING, BETWEEN THE TWO CENTER COLUMNS YOU'LL SEE SIX OR EIGHT SMALL, CIRCULAR BOXES.

>> BOTTOM CENTER? IS THAT ACCURATE?

THANK YU. >> THE FENCE WOULD BE FOUR FEET FORWARD OF THAT AND JUST THE LENGTH OF THE METER BOX.

>> THAT WAS A NICE TOUCH. >> YES.

I'M THE CONSULTING DESIGNATED DESIGN REVIEW PROFESSIONAL. MY PURVIEW FOR THIS IS TO REVIEW THE PLANS IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR ARTICLE LXXV OF THE COMMUNITY APPEARENCE BOARD.

THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS, THE ELECTRICAL METER LOCATIONS AND MAIN DISCONNECTS WE ADDRESSED EARLY ON IN THE PROJECT.

THEY ARE FACING STATE ROAD 7. THAT'S WHY WAS A PRIMARY CONCERN OF OURS. WE FELT THAT IN THAT LOCATION IT NEEDED TO BE SCREENED VERY WELL.

SO HE SUGGESTED THE SCREENING METHOD. THE APPLICANT WAS FINE WITH DOING THAT. I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. THAT'S PROBABLY THE FURTHEST SETBACK PORTION OF THE BUILDING FOR VISIBILITY. ALL THE OTHER ONES YOU GET REALLY CLOSE TO.

SO WE THOUGHT THAT WAS AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION.>> CAN YOU PLEASE COMMENT ON THE PERGOLA?

>> I WAS -- >> NOT FROM THE CONTEXT BASED ON MY QUESTION OF THE DESIGN CRITERIA -- I'M SORRY, THE DESIGN OF IT -- BUT HOW OUR CODE REQUIRES OR MAY NOT REQUIRE ELEMENTS TO REFLECT THE PUBLIC OR COMMON AREA ELEMENT.

IN THE LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE IN A DEVELOPMENT

PROJECT? >> ARTICLE LXXV, AS I HAD MENTIONED, DIRECTS CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE DESIGN WITHIN THE BUILDING. IT MENTIONS THINGS SUCH AS WALKWAYS, PERGOLAS, TRELLISES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THIS SHOPPING CENTER HAS A LOT OF THAT ALREADY.

I STRUGGLED, MYSELF, WITH THE PERGOLA ND THE LOCATION.

IT WAS A NUMBER OF COMMENTS OF MINE . MY MAI CONCERN WAS THE SHAPE OF IT. THE LOCATION WAS A LITTLE AWKWARD TO ME. OF COURSE, IT'S YOUR PURVIEW TO EITHER MAKE A COMMENT ON IT, DELETING IT OR ADDING BOLLARDS.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS IF IT IS DELETED, I LIKE TO SEE LANDSCAPING THERE AND NOT JUST A FIELD OF PAVERS.

IF IT REMAINS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THE BOLLARDS ARE

DECORATIVE. >> IS NOT IN FRONT OF ME AND I HAVEN'T MEMORIZED IT, BUT IS THERE SOME ASPECT IN THE CODE

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THE OUT PARCEL? >> CORRECT.

THE COMMUNITY APPEARANCE REGULATIONS ENCOURAGE THINGS OF THIS NATURE. IF THIS WAS A STANDALONE PROJECT, I WOULD CERTAINLY SAY YES.

>> SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I'M ASKING IS FOR OUR BOARD, OUR COMMENTS AND INPUT. BUT ALSO WHEN THE COMMISSION LOOKS AND REVIEWS OUR COMMENTS AND INCORPORATES IT. KEEPING IT OR NOT KEEPING IT -- I DON'T MEAN DRASTIC, BUT IF IT'S ELIMINATED, THAT'S FINE.UT ALSO, ONE HAS TO REMEMBER IT ISN'T ONE OF THE ITEMS LISTED IN THE PARTS OF -- THINGS TO

LOOK FOR FOR COVERING AND SUCH. >> I BELIEVE THERE IS A LOT OF THAT ALREADY IN THE SHOPPING CENTER.

SOME OF THE CONCERNS I HAD WAS THE SHAPE, THE CONNECTIONS OF VARIOUS BEAMS COMING TOGETHER IN ONE LOCATION.

I FELT THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE ODD. WE WORKED ON THAT WITH THE ARCHITECT.IT'S MUCH BETTER THAN IT WAS.

THE OTHER CONCERN THAT I HAD WAS A POSSIBILITY -- AND THIS IS OUTSIDE OF MY PURVIEW OF DESIGN AESTHETICS -- IS THERE IS POTENTIAL OF IT BLOCKING VISIBILITY ON THE CURVE OF THAT ROAD, GOING FROM SOUTH TO NORTH.

IF THE DECISION IS MADE TO REMOVE IT, I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE LANDSCAPING THERE. IF THE DECISION IS MADE TO KEEP IT AND BOLLARDS BE INSTALLED, I WOULD RECOMMEND THEY ARE A DECORATIVE

BOLLARD. >> I'M TEXTING WITH MY HUSBAND.

HE'S IN A MEETING AND I'M IN A MEETING. I ASKED HIM HOW IMPORTANT THE PERGOLA IS FOR YOU AT THE SHOPPING CENTER? IF THERE'S ALREADY ENOUGH PERGOLAS, WE ARE WILLING TO REMOVE IT AND PUT A BENCH AND PUT GRASS AND FLOWERS. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM FOR US. IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE OR BREAK US. I MEAN, IF IT'S GOING TO MAKE OR BREAK YOU, THEN WE WILL TAKE IT OFF FOR YOU (LAUGHING). IT'S SOMETHING WE JUST THOUGHT THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE AND ENJOY WHILE THEY ARE HANGING OUT AT THE MALL. AT THE SHOPPING CENTER.

IF IT'S NOT IMPORTANT AND WE HAVE ENOUGH PERGOLAS IN THE SHOPPING CENTER, WHERE WILLING TO REMOVE IT AND PUT A BENCH.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT OFFER. YEAH, THE PERGOLA, FROM MY VIEW, IS NOT A DEALBREAKER. IN MY VIEW, IT HAS VERY LITTLE UTILITY. I DON'T ENVISION OUTDOOR SEATING.

IT'S A PERGOLA, SO IF IT RAINS, YOU GET WET. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S DECORATIVE. IT'S SOMETHING DECORATIVE AND THAT'S IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY PREFERENCES ON THE PERGOLA. LANDSCAPING IS NICE, BUT CERTAINLY, FROM MY VIEW -- IT'S NOT A DEALBREAKER.

>> THE LANDSCAPE AREA BETWEEN THE DARK AREA IS THE PAPER. THE LIGHTER SPECKLED DOTS IS A LANDSCAPE AREA.

THAT LANDSCAPE AREA IS EIGHT FEET IN WIDTH AND THE COLUMN FOR THE PERGOLA IS TWO FEET WIDE. SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET ABOUT A 3 TO 4 FOOT CLEARANCE FROM THE CURB TO THE COLUMN. NOW A MINIMUM FOR ENGINEERING IS 30 INCHES. WE ARE PROBABLY 36 TO 48 INCHES BACK.

>> AND JUST TO FINISH UP, IT SEEMS AS IF THE INTENSITY OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON IN THIS BUILDING IS LOW . IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING TO GENERATEAN INTENSITY THAT CONCERNS ME WITH THE PARKING . THE PARKING DOES CALCULATE OUT.

AND IF, IN THE REAL WORLD, IT DOESN'T WORK? THAT'S TO YOUR DISADVANTAGE. THAT'S A BUSINESS DECISION THAT YOU WILL SUFFER FOR, AND NOT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD OR ANYBODY IN THE CITY. YOUR CUSTOMERS, PERHAPS, WOULD BE FRUSTRATED AND MAYBE NT GO THERE BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ANY PARKING. BUT IF IT CALCULATES OUT, I

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>> NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE ABOUT THE PARKING. I THINK EVERYONE SAID QUITE A FEW THINGS.

I DO HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT IT .

THIS ALTERNATIVE PARKING FORMULA, IS THIS USED ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY? IS THIS A BRAND-NEW ITEM?

>> IN OUR CITY? NO. IT IS USED IN OTHER CITIES.

THERE'S SHARED PARKING CALCULATIONS -- > SO AGAIN, MY CONCERN IS LESS HERE IN THE MOMENT THAN IT IS FOR THE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE, RIGHT? SO I THINK YOU EVEN SAID IN YOUR OPENING STATEMENT, A TENANT CAN COME IN AND OCCUPY TWO UNITS OR THREE UNITS. SO MY FEAR IS FOR THE FUTURE.

AND AGAIN, TO TONY'S COMMENT, IT WOULD BE TO YOUR DETRIMENT .

IT WOULD ALSO BE A DETRIMENT TO THE CITY. BECAUSE OF THE PLAZA DIDN'T DO WELL AND THINGS WENT BAD --

>> AND THE PARKING WOULD OVERFLOW SOMEWHERE.

>> RIGHT. SO THAT KIND OF TROUBLES ME.

IT LOOKS GREAT. I'VE NO QUESTIONS OR ISSUES WITH THE FINISHES AND THE WAY IT LOOKS. IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OVERHEAD

VIEW OF THE SITE? >> OKAY.

>> MAYBE YOU SAID THIS? BUT THIS PARCEL, THIS NEW PARCEL THAT'S IN THE CORNER, WHAT'S THE POTENTIAL FUTURE FOR THE OTHER AREAS OF BEING ASKED TO THROW OTHER PARCELS THERE? CAN WE SAY THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER PARCEL THERE?

>> WELL, IF THERE WAS ANOTHER PROPOSAL FOR ANOTHER OUTBUILDING, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD HAVE TO COME THROUGH THIS EXACT SAME PROCESS. AND AGAIN, WHEN YOU ADD ANOTHER BUILDING, YOU ARE GOING TO BE DISPLACING PARKING AND INCREASING MORE CAR PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW SQUARE FOOTAGE. > NOT TO SOUND SMART, BUT ARE WE CAN HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE ALTERNATIVE PARKING --?

>> THEY COULD ASKED FOR THE SAME ALTERNATIVE CALCULATIONS FOR NEW BUILDING UNDER NEW SITE PLAN AMENDMENT.

>> THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT TROUBLES ME.

I JUST WATED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING CODE PROVISION THAT ALLOWS FOR PROPOSING ALTERNATIVE PARKING, SUCH AS WHAT THEY ARE DOING. WHICH IS THAT SUBSECTION F THAT IS REFERENCED IN THE STAFF REPORT. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES IN THE PAST SOMEBODY HAS UTILIZED IT. I JUST WANTED

TO POINT OUT IT IS AN EXISTING CODE PROVISION.>> OBVIOUSLY I'LL RELY ON THE EXPERTS THAT HAVE STAMPED, SEALED AND PUT

THEIR NAME ON IT PUBLICLY. >> ONE THING I WOULD RECOMMEND IF YOU ARE CONCERNED IS THERE ARE A FEW SPECIFIC TENANTS THAT ARE VERY PARKING INTENSIVE. FOR EXAMPLE, VOCATIONAL SCHOOL, GROCERY STORES OR LARGE SPORTS CENTERS LIKE CRUNCH FITNESS.

IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION, WHAT YOU COULD DO IS STATE THOSE USES THAT REQUIRE EXCESSIVE PARKING DASH, AND WE CAN IDENTIFY THOSE -- IF THOSE USES COME IN OVER CERTAIN THRESHOLD OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, THEY ARE NOT A SMALL TENANT, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND REEVALUATE THE PARKING WHEN THAT NEW TENANT WANTED TO GO IN.

>> TONGUE AND CHEEK FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, I MEAN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EXISTING CODE THAT DOESN'T ALLOW OVERNIGHT PARKING. WE CAN'T HANDLE THAT NOW.

>> IF I HAD KNOWN ABOUT THAT, WE WOULD BE CODE ENFORCING IT.

WE ARE CURRENTLY CODE ENFORCING THE BJ SITE BECAUSE I WAS AWARE THAT. I WASN'T AWARE IT WAS HAPPENING HERE, OR WE WOULD BE

ADDRESSING IT. >> THE 24 HOUR DASH FOR THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 24 HOUR PARKING LOT LIGHTING?

>> THE CODE IS VERY SPECIFIC. IT TALKS ABOUT THE OPERATING HOURS OF THE BUSINESSES. THAT THE LIGHTS HAVE TO STAY ON, I BELIEVE, IT'S A HALF-HOUR AFTER OPERATING HOURS. AFTER HALF HOUR THEY CAN GO TO 50 PERCENT.

LATE AT NIGHT, THEY CAN GO OFF TO A LOWER LEVEL.THE CODE IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THE THRESHOLDS WHEN LIGHTING HAS TO BE ON, WHEN IT CAN BE DIMMED AND WHEN IT CAN BE VERY DIM.

>> I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE RESIDENCE.

>> YEAH. THE LIGHTS WILL NOT BE ON ANY MORE THAN THEY ARE NOW.

>> OKAY. I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE WAS ASKED. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR

FLEXIBLY, TOO. THANKS. >> THANK YOU. ASHLEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE STAFFER APPLICANT?

>> THANKS FOR BEING HERE. IS THIS GOING TO BE SIMILAR IN SIZE TO WHERE THE NAIL SALON, MATTRESS STORE AND

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PARCEL . >> (INDISCERNIBLE) MATTRESS STORE, NAIL SALON . THERE IS ALSO MEDICAL (INDISCERNIBLE).

WE ARE FOLLOWING THEIR LEAD AND HOW THEY SET IT UP.

>> YEAH. THAT'S BEEN BUILT FOR LIGHT, TWO OR THREE YEARS NOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. DOESN'T SEEM LIKE PARKING IS AN ISSUE THERE. THERE'S A CVS AND A PRESCHOOL.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE). >> BUT THIS PARKING LOT HAS A STRIP WHERE THE CROSSFIT IS AND WHERE THE CARWASH IS. THERE'S LIKE 40 SPOTS THERE. ABOUT 40. THERE'S ALSO THAT STRIP BY BJ'S WHERE I ASSUME PEOPLE PARK OVERNIGHT BECAUSE IT'S BEHIND BJ'S, WHERE THEY DO THEIR LOADING AND UNLOADING.

>> WHEN I SPOKE WITH TOM HALL EARLIER TODAY ABOUT THE PARKING UTILIZATION, HE SAID HIS OBSERVATION WAS THE NORTH END OF THE PLAZA WAS UNDERUTILIZED. AND THAT HE DIDN'T FEEL THIS WOULD BE A PROBLEM. HE ALSO THOUGHT OPENING THE DRIVEWAY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE NEW BUILDING WOULD HELP THOSE NORTHERN AND TENANTS IN THE EXISTING BUILDING TO UTILIZE THE PARKING STALLS NEXT TO 74TH PLACE.

>> THANK YOU. THAT WAS IT. > THANK YOU. I'VE A FEW COMMENTS AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF LETTERS STOP THE THINGS WE WERE DISCUSSING BASED ON THE TENANT, MEDICAL OFFICE AND SO FORTH? IN THE PAST, MY RECOLLECTION, DIFFERENT SHOPPING CENTER, PERHAPS? BUT THE TENANT RENTAL ACTUALLY CREATED BECAUSE OF MULTIPLE RESTAURANTS, WHERE THERE WAS ACTUALLY EMPTY RETAIL OR SHOPPING CENTER SPACE, THAT ON PAPER COULDN'T BE RELEASED BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ENOUGH PARKING. MANY RESTAURANTS WERE BUILT AND OCCUPIED WHERE IN THE PAST IT HAD BEEN FOR OFFICE. ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE PARKING RATIOS CHANGE . THERE IS ACTUALLY EMPTY SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT CAN'T BE RENTED BECAUSE ALL THE PARKING ALLOCATED FOR THE DIFFERENT USES WERE TAKEN.

>> RIGHT. I'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN.

>> SO AGAIN, IT'S THE OWNER AND LEASING THAT CREATES THE BUZZ AND MIX -- THERE IS NO MAGIC WAND, BUT YOU GO BUY SOME SHOPPING CENTERS AND YOU MIGHT PTHINK THERE IS A MAGIC WAND.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD. JUST BECAUSE THERE IS AN EMPTY SPACE DOESN'T MEAN, BASED ON (INDISCERNIBLE) THAT IT COULD BE FILLED. IT'S ANALYZED IN THE TERMINATION OF NUMBER PARKING SPACES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE REQUIRED FOR THE TENANT IS EVALUATED.

I LIKE TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

WITH RESPECT TO THE LAKE. I BELIEVE THERE MAY BE, IF THERE ISN'T THERE SHOULD BE, I BELIEVE THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR LAKE MAINTENANCE FROM THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL. SO THERE MAY OR SHOULD BE SOME TEETH INTO MAKING SURE THAT THE LEAK IS PROPERLY MAINTAINED. FROM THE APPROVAL STANDPOINT, AND PERHAPS, INSURANCE STANDPOINT. DUMPSTERS. WE TALK ABOUT THE DUMPSTERS EXISTING AND THE ADDED SQUARE FOOTAGE AND ADDED TENANTS. AGAIN, THE FREQUENCY OF PICKUPS MAY BE REQUIRED TO CHANGE SO THAT IT ACCOMMODATES THE INCREASED USAGE. ESPECIALLY IF THERE IS GOING TO BE RESTAURANTS.THEN WE DISCUSSED, OR DOES AFFECT, THE BUILDING HAS FOUR SIDES THAT ARE BEING USED . THE RESTAURANT USES, WHEN THERE ARE CAN WASHES THAT'S REQUIRED TO OPERATE A RESTAURANT OUTSIDE THE DOOR, THAT ENDS UP HAVING TO BE SCREENED OR NOT.

IT'S ALWAYS PART OF THE BUILD OUT PLAN TO WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE LOCATED AND HOW IT'S GOING TO BE MAINTAINED.

SO IT'S NOT A SORE SPOT, VISUALLY. AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT. BECAUSE THERE HAS TO BE A FLOOR DRAIN AND A HOSE SPIN, AND A GREASE TRAP AND THINGS LIKE THAT. LAST THING: LIGHT FIXTURES. YOU

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I KNOW THERE'S DETAILS ON THE PLAN OF THE SAME FINISH THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE MAIN SHOPPING CENTER.

TYPICALLY, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO MATCH OR HAVE SOME RESEMBLANCE.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY -- THERE WASN'T A COMPARISON.

SO JUST FROM A SIZE -- >> THE FIXTURE PROPOSED IS SHOWN HERE ON THE MIDDLE LEFT OF THE SCREEN.

>> RIGHT. >> (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE).

>> I'M NOT INFERRING THAT IT NEEDS TO MATCH AND BE EXACT.

BUT IT'S OPEN ENDED WITH THE SAME FINISH -- AND I SEE IT

THERE. >> THEY ARE VERY SIMILAR. MY CONCERN WAS MATCHING THE FINISH COLOR. ALL OF THE METALS ON THE CENTER ARE DARK BRONZE IN COLOR.

>> GOT YOU. I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT. I SUPPORT IT. AND IF ANYBODY DOESN'T HAVE ANY

OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON YOUR COMMENTS (LAUGHING). X AM I IN TROUBLE?

>> NO, NO, NO. MY HUSBAND IS VERY INVOLVED WITH THE SHOPPING CENTER. AND HE IS TRYING TO BALANCE EVERYTHING.

HE'S THERE ALMOST EVERY DAY, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS WHAT THEY NEED. SO FOR THE NEW PARCEL, WE'RE DISCUSSING EVERY TIME WHO'S COMING IN, WHO'S GOING OUT, AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO PUT OVER THERE TO BALANCE THE PARKING ISSUES. SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE PUTTING ANYTHING THAT WOULD RISK -- CREATING WHAT CORAL SPRINGS HAS, WITH WALMART OR TRADER JOE'S STOP BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS STUCK IN THAT TRAFFIC AND I HATE IT. SOME TO MAKE SURE MY HUSBAND DOESN'T CREATE A PROBLEM THERE. ANOTHER THING THAT YOU MENTIONED WAS THE POND. SO WE WERE NOT AWARE THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE POND. AT LEAST, MY HUSBAND NEVER TALK TO ME ABOUT IT, SO I DON'T THINK HE WAS AWARE OF IT. BUT NOW THAT WE ARE, WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO TAKE A -- LOOK INTO IT AND SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND MR. KAPLAN, SINCE YOU ARE ON THE COMMITTEE AND YOU HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT, I'M SURE MY HUSBAND WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT AND TRY TO RESOLVE

WHATEVER ISSUES THERE ARE. >> NO COMPLAINTS. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE MORE NOTES ABOUT IT.

>> SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE POND, JOEL.

>> OH, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU DOING.

>> WE ARE VERY HANDS-ON. THAT'S MY HUSBAND IS; IS VERY HANDS-ON. SO HE WILL MAKE SURE THERE'S NO TRAFFIC. THAT EVERYONE IS HAPPY. THAT'S THE WAY WE WORK. SO AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, IF YOU REALLY HATE THE PERGOLA, WE WILL REMOVE IT AND PUT A BENCH. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM FOR US.

>> I HAD A SAYING ON THE BOARD FOR MANY YEARS -- IT'S BE CAREFULWHAT WE WISH FOR, RIGHT? WE ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF BUSINESS IN PARKLAND.

WE STRIVE TO MAKE WHAT YOU PROPOSE AS GOOD AS YOU WANT IT, IF NOT EVEN BETTER. SO WE WELCOME YOU TO SUB WERE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND KEEP EVERYTHING PARKLAND -LIKE.

>> ONE THING STAFF HAS NOTICED IS THIS PLAZA HAS VERY GOOD OCCUPANCY RATES. AS SOON AS THE SPACE IS VACATED, IT'S GENERALLY OCCUPIED WITHIN A MONTH OR SO.

OFTEN, THAT SPEAKS TO GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. ALSO, I THINK ONE OF THE REASON THIS PLAZA IS WORKING WITH THE PARKING SITUATION IS YOU HAVE THE VOCATIONAL BEAUTY SCHOOL THERE THAT IS GEARED UP DURING THE DAY, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

PROBABLY 8:00 SO 4:00, 5:00, MAYBE? THOUGH STUDENTS MAY BE BUYING LUNCH OR SOME LITTLE TRINKETS OR THINGS IN THE PLASMA. SO THEY MAY BE SUPPORTING THE PLAZA TO A CERTAIN DEGREE. WHEN THE RESTAURANTS ARE GEARING UP ON THE WEEKENDS, EVEN IF WE GET RESTAURANTS IN THE OUT PARCEL BUILDING, THE SCHOOL IS SHUT DOWN ON THE WEEKENDS.

SO THAT LARGE TENANT SPACE THAT HAS A HIGH PARKING DEMAND, IS NOT AFFECTING THE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE USUALLY GEARING UP AT NIGHT. SO ACCORDING TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL WORK . THE BUSIEST DAY OF THE BUSIEST YEAR ON THE BUSIEST PEAK HOUR YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT BE SORT OF ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE PLASMA. BUT THAT WOULD BE

THE WORST CASE SCENARIO. >> THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE MEETING UP TO THE PUBLIC . BEFORE I ASK ANYBODY IF ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC IS HERE, I'M FIRST GOING

TO READ INTO -- COME ON UP. >> LORI (NAME). I LIVE IN

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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THIS INTO CONSIDERATION TODAY.

I AM THE CHAIR OF THE SCHOOL BOARD OF BROWARD COUNTY, REPRESENTING PARKLAND FOR DISTRICT 4. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF MAKE OUR SCHOOLS SAFE. MY NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT MY HUSBAND AND I STARTED AFTER THE TRAGEDY WHERE WE LOST OUR DAUGHTER THAT TRAGIC DAY. WE TURN OUR PAIN AND GRIEF INTO ACTION. THROUGH MAKE OUR SCHOOLS SAFE, WE DONATED LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY BACK TO THE SCHOOLS IN PARKLAND TO MAKE THE SCHOOLS SAFER IN PARKLAND. THIS MEANS SO MUCH TO US.

SO WE CAN BRING MAKE OUR SCHOOLS SAFE TO ANOTHER LEVEL.

TO HAVE THIS OFFICE SPACE. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND TO VOTE YES. THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER? OKAY.

I'M GOING TO READ TWO LETTERS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT INTO THE RECORD. A REFERENCE THEM. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO READ THE ENTIRE LETTER, I'LL MAKE SURE THEY ARE AVAILABLE. ONE IS BY DANIEL LEE, HAPPY LITTLE THING WHO WAS A SUPPORTER OF THE PROJECT. AND THINKS IT WILL INCREASE AND MAKE AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY TO THRIVE. IT'S DATED JUNE 8. THE OTHER LETTER ALSO DATED JUNE 8 IS FROM GUADALUPE HERRERA FROM BOCA BEAUTY ACADEMY. ALSO IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT.

AGAIN, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO READ THE ENTIRE LETTERS, THE ENTIRETY, WILL MAKE SURE STAFF HAS THEM AND MAKE THEM AVAILABLE TO YOU. AND AT THIS TIME, I WILL CLOSE THE OPEN AND PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU PERMIT, I HAVE ONE QUESTION THE

ASSISTANT MANAGER. >> YEAH.

>> IS THERE ANY UTILITY CONCERNS WITH THE -- I SEE THEY ADDED THE TO CATCH BASINS. IS THERE ANY OTHER CONCERNS? IF IT GREASE TRAP NEEDS TO BE INSTALLED IN THE FUTURE? AND MA'AM, I APOLOGIZE. THAT'S WHAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION BEFORE AND I WANTED TO MAE A NOTE ABOUT IT.

WE WERE MOVED TO CATCH BASINS AND ADDED TO.

>> AND THE FLOORS OUR AT THE SAME --

>> WE WILL DEFINITELY TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE DO

OUR ENGINEERING ASSESSMENT. >> JOEL BROUGHT THAT UP. I WAS

JUST COMING IN. >> THAT'S FINE.

LOCATION AND ANY CONFLICTS WITH EXISTING UTILITIES, IN ADDITION TO THE FINISH FLOOR ELEVATION AND MATCHING ANY PROPOSED

ELEVATION OF THE FINISH FLOOR. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE I STATE A MOTION.

DO WE NEED THREE SEPARATE -- I SEE WE HAVE A MASTER PLAN, SITE PLAN AND A CAB, CASE NUMBERS. DO WE NEED THREE SEPARATE VOTES? HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>> WE WILL DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY --

>> IT'S ONE RESOLUTION THAT IS CONTAINING THE THREE SUB. SO

IT'S ONE VOTE. >> I DON'T NEED TO HEAR FROM THE ATTORNEY. I TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT, SIR!

>> IS AT AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT, CITY ATTORNEY?

>> THAT IS ACCURATE. UNLESS YOU WERE GOING TO DENY ONE AND APPROVE TO OTHERS. --

>> ANY TENANT CAN COME IN HERE --

>> THERE IS A PROPOSED TENANTS MIX THAT IS TO DETERMINE THE

PARKING CALCULATIONS. >> IF THEY CHANGE THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK HERE? PROPOSED TENANT MIX?

>> UNDER THE NEW CALCULATION, THEY WILL HAVE ABOUT 35 SURPLUS

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TENANTS COME AND GO. >> ALL GREAT THINGS RIGHT NOW.

SAY THEY GOT AN AWESOME OFFER AND SELL THE PLASMA TO SOMEBODY ELSE AND ALL NEW TENANTS COME IN HERE? ALL GOOD INTENTIONS, BUT WHAT DO WE HAVE -- TAX LICENSE AND EACH IS EVALUATED.

>> THAT'S WHY MAYBE CONSIDER SPECIFYING A COUPLE USES. IF A GROCERY STORE WERE TO COME INTO THE PLASMA, FOR EXAMPLE, ANOTHER OR LARGE EXPANSION OF THE VOCATIONAL SCHOOL, OR SAY A LARGE GYMNASIUM LIKE CRUNCH FITNESS. IF A TENANT LIKE THAT WERE TO COME IN, A LARGE SCALE TENANT, IT WOULD NEED TO COME BACK. THAT COULD BE PART OF YOUR MOTION ON THE

RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PARKING. >> THANK YOU.

NOW THAT YOU OPENED THE DOOR, ALEX, I HAVE A QUESTION. A COMMENT WAS MADE BY THE APPLICANT OR SOMEBODY REPRESETING THE APPLICANT, ABOUT A VETERINARY CLINIC. OR AN ANIMAL HOSPITAL. THERE ARE CERTAIN -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG -- USES IN OUR CODE THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE AND REQUIRE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION OF SOME SORT.

FOR EXAMPLE, A FENCED IN GRASS AREA FOR THE MAINTENANCE OPERATION WERE THE DOGS WOULD GO OUTSIDE, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO THERE ARE BELLS AND SUSPENDERS WITH RESPECT TO USES THAT MAY BE ABOVE AND BEYOND OR EXCESSIVE AND NOT THE NORM.

>> RIGHT. THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT AFFECT THE ZONING REGULATIONS OR THE REGULATIONS THAT APPLY TO USES WITHIN THE PLASMA. ANYTHING THAT IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION WILL REAIN A SPECIAL EXCEPTION IN THE FUTURE.

>> DOES THE PARKING -- AS A PROSPECTIVE TENANT, WHEN THEY COME TO THE CITY FOR A TAX LICENSE, PRE-OR POST LEASE -- HOPEFULLY PRE- DASHCODE THEY GET EVALUATED WITH RESPECT TO THEIR PARKING REQUIREMENTS. IT'S NOT AUTOMATIC.

IF IT WAS ALL NAIL SALONS ARE ALL MEDICAL AND IT EXCEEDED THE

RATIOS -- >> RIGHT. WE EVALUATE THE TENANT USE, WHICH THEN REQUIRES US TO EVALUATE THE PARKING.

EITHER THROUGH A BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATION, IF THERE IS NO INTERIOR OTHER RATIONS REQUIRED OR THE INTERIOR ALTERATION PERMITS HAVE THEIR HAVING TO DO MODIFICATION TO

THE STORE. >> COULD A BANQUET HALL TAKE

THE WHOLE BUILDING? >> MY GUESS IS THAT IT WOULD BE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION. AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO SEE IT.

AND THE PARKING WOULD BLOW OFF THE CHARTS WITH THAT TYPE OF USE. GROCERY STORES, LARGE GEMS, VOCATIONAL SCHOOLS WE WOULD WANTED TO COME BACK AND NOT BE BLANKETED AT THE 150 ACROSS THE BOARD. SO THERE ARE A FEW SPECIFIC USES THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, IN YOUR MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE PARKING, IF THOSE USES COME IN.

>> WHERE DO WE STOP AND START WITH RESPECT TO THAT? MY POINT IS, ANY RETAIL USE AS LONG AS IT IS -- WHAT IS THE

ZONING, B-3? >> I BELIEVE IT.

>> ANY AUTHORIZED USE ON THE LIST, ON B2, HOW DO WE NOW CARVE OUT USES WITHIN B2 THAT IN YOUR OPINION, MY OPINION, A LAUNDROMAT? I MEAN, THERE'S NO END STARTING TO LIST -- WE WOULD BE HERE UNTIL --

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, WE DON'T DO THIS WITH ANY OF THESE SHOPPING CENTERS IN THE CITY AND TERMS OF TENANCY.

IT IS NOT THE JOB OF THE GOVERNMENT . THE CITY OF PARKLAND TO CHOOSE WHO THE TENANTS ARE. WE HAVE PERMITTED USES AND THEY ARE EVALUATED. THERE IS A CODE. AS YOU MENTIONED, WE COULD BE CHASING THIS DOWN. YOU CAN'T GET A HANDLE ON IT. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE CONTINUE THE PRACTICE OF EVALUATING THE USES AND GO FROM THERE. I HEAR ALEX CONCERNED.

OBVIOUSLY THE CITY COMMISSION IS GOING TO HEAR THAT WHEN REVIEWING OUR VIDEO AND MINUTES.

SO YOU ARE CLEARLY ON THE RECORD; I GET IT. BUT NOW, JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF PROCESS TO EFFECTIVELY MONITOR THE TENANCY, I THINK, IS JUST A MONSTER.

>> MAYBE THE THREE LARGER ONES. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT -- IF A

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NOT WORK. >> IF THE STAFF WANTS TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT. THAT IS VERY NUANCED AND I DON'T WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SWING FROM THE HIP WITH THAT. SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT A CONDITION OF EMPLOYMENT TO PASS ON TO THE COMMISSION.

I'LL GO AHEAD -- IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO MAKE MOTION? SIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2023-041, RIVERSTONE SHOPPES MULTITENANT OUT PARCEL BUILDING.

>> SECOND. >> SECONDED BY ASHLEY. CALL FOR THE VOTE, PLEASE.

[9. Comments from the Planning & Zoning Manager]

>> THANK YOU!

[APPLAUSE] >> GAIL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING

FURTHER? >> SOME OF YOU HAVE NOT TURNED

IN YOUR FORM 1. >> MOST OF YOU!

>> THEY ARE DUE JULY 1. I'VE HEARD TWO OF YOU HAVE AND SOME OF THE FEW OTHERS HAVE NOT. WE WON'T CALL YOU OUT!

YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE! >> THANK YOU.

>> THE ONES WHO YELLED OUT THE DEADLINE JULY 1, WE KNOW WHO WE

ARE! >> OH, JUST A REMINDER, WERE GOING TO HAVE A SUMMER BREAK FOR THE JULY MEETING. WE WILL

SEE YOU ALL BACK IN AUGUST. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY ATTENDING. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.