WELL, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. IT'S 6 P.M.
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I WANT TO CALL TO ORDER.PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD MEETING FOR MARCH 27TH, 2023.
IF WE COULD ALL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
AND JENNIFER. WE HAVE A QUORUM.
OKAY. MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[5. Comments by the Chair and Board]
OF COMMENTS BY THE CHAIR AND BOARD.UM, AND AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD, I JUST WANTED TO EXTEND MY HEARTFELT CONGRATULATIONS TO NICK AND CHRISTINE AND THE ENTIRE PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF WHO WORKED TIRELESSLY TO MAKE THE PARKLAND DAY EVENT SUCH A GREAT SUCCESS.
YOUR HARD WORK, DEDICATION AND ATTENTION TO DETAIL TRULY SHONE THROUGH.
FROM THE PARADE TO THE BUSINESS EXPO TO THE FOOD TRUCKS AND TO OUR BAND SUGAR RAY.
IT CERTAINLY DIDN'T DAMPEN THE SPIRITS OF THE CROWD AND EVERYONE AROUND THERE.
OKAY. ANY COMMENTS FROM MY ESTEEMED BOARD MEMBERS? NO, REAL QUICK, I DO WANT TO APOLOGIZE.
I HAVE A PRIOR COMMITMENT TONIGHT.
SO AT AROUND 645, I'LL HAVE TO EXIT.
SO IF ANYONE SEES ME STAND AND LEAVE, I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE.
AND TO HOWARD'S COMMENTS, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WAS A GREAT SUCCESS.
OKAY. MOVING ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
[6. Approval of the Agenda]
AND TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.SECOND. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY.
THE MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
[7. New Business]
OKAY. A NEW BUSINESS.CHRISTINE GARCIA, SENIOR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN OUR LAST MEETINGS AND GIVING UPDATES ON OUR PARK PROJECTS, THIS WAS A SPECIAL MEETING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPECIFICALLY BE ABLE TO DIVE IN AND HEAR SOME DISCUSSION AND IDEAS IN REGARDS TO WATCH PRESERVE PARK.
HE'LL I'LL INTRODUCE IN A MINUTE.
WE HAVE NOW COME DOWN TO TWO CONCEPTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO GO OUT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITH YOU GUYS BEING OUR FIRST AND FOREMOST ONES FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC SIDE, TO BE ABLE TO SEE THESE TWO CONCEPTS AND TO MOVE FORWARD FROM.
SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME WORK ALREADY DONE IN SOME PREVIOUS CONCEPTS DONE THAT WE HAVE NOW BEEN ABLE TO TO DISCUSS THESE TWO FINAL CONCEPTS THAT NICK AND HIS TEAM WILL GO OVER.
GOOD EVENING. NICK TINDLE, CPA.
I HAVE WITH ME TODAY GALEN PUGH AND CHIP SMITH FROM CPA.
JUST, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
JUST BEFORE WE GET STARTED, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ENJOYED REALLY KIND OF DELVING INTO THIS PROJECT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO TO SHARING THE TWO CONCEPTS WE HAVE AND AND AND GETTING YOUR GUYS'S FEEDBACK.
TO START, WE WANTED TO KIND OF JUST FRAME THE PARK ITSELF.
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THERE'D BE A 40 FOOT BUFFER OF VEGETATION AND TREES.AND THEN THAT BERM THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE PROTECTING FROM THE RESIDENTS WOULD CONTINUE ALL THE WAY DOWN THE NORTH SIDE AND ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY CONNECTING BACK TO HILLSBORO. AND THAT WOULD BE VEGETATED THE SAME WAY AS THE CURRENT BUFFER IS NOW.
ALL ALONG THAT WAY, THERE ARE SOME PARAMETERS WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN FOR THE GRANT.
THE GRANT REQUIRES FOR PASSIVE AND ACTIVE RECREATION.
SO FOR RECREATIONAL COMPONENTS, IT REQUIRES TRAILS, UPLANDS LIKE PRESERVES, EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND SIGNAGE TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PARK.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE STARTED WITH.
AND THE PROGRAM ELEMENTS THAT WE LOOKED AT WERE BASKETBALL, BASEBALL, PICKLEBALL, PLAYGROUNDS AND DIFFERENT KIND OF PLAY EQUIPMENT, SPLASH PADS.
AND SO THOSE PROGRAMMATIC ELEMENTS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT TO THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD, THOSE TYPE OF PROGRAMING ELEMENTS THAT YOU'LL SEE ARE THE SAME ON THE TWO CONCEPTS, BUT THEY'RE KIND OF JUST ARRANGED DIFFERENTLY BETWEEN THEM JUST BASED ON ADJACENCIES AND SO FORTH.
SO BASED ON THAT, I'LL TURN THAT OVER TO GALEN TO WALK YOU THROUGH CONCEPT A.
THANK YOU, NICK. GALEN PUGH WITH CPR.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE.
HE IS OUR ASSISTANT PROJECT MANAGER.
AS WE WALK THROUGH THIS, AS NICK SAID, TWO OF OUR THE TWO CONCEPTS THAT WE PREPARED BASICALLY HAVE THE SAME ELEMENTS IN BOTH THE SAME NUMBER OF FIELDS AND COURTS, ETCETERA.
THE THINGS THAT ALSO THE OTHER THINGS THAT OF COURSE ARE COMMON AMONGST THE TWO IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LUSH LANDSCAPING WITH THE PERIMETER, AS NICK MENTIONED, WITH THE PERIMETER AND THE BUFFER. WE'RE ALSO INTRODUCING A PRESERVE AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY RECREATE A PRESERVE, IF YOU WILL.
IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY A PRESERVE, BUT WE'LL BE REPLANTING IT AND RE RECONFIGURING THAT AREA.
SO AS FAR AS THIS PROJECT, THIS CONCEPT GOES, THE UNIQUE FEATURES ARE AS YOU COME OFF OF HILLSBOROUGH BOULEVARD, YOU'RE GOING TO BEND TO THE LEFT AND OF COURSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE THE VIEW OF THE OF OUR WATER ELEMENT AS YOU MOVE OVER, CONTINUE TOWARDS THE WEST, YOU'LL SEE OUR ACTIVE AREA TO THE RIGHT.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE VARIOUS ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE THERE AS WE'LL GET INTO THOSE.
THE CENTRAL PARKING FEATURE IS THE MAIN ONE THERE.
WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE THREE PARKING TO TWO SECONDARIES AND ONE MAIN PARKING FEATURE THAT WILL ACTUALLY SERVE YOUR MAIN AREA OF ACTIVITY, WHICH IS GOING TO BE COMPOSED OF A LARGE PLAYGROUND.
YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE REPRESENTED WITH THE YELLOW COVERED WITH SHADE SAILS, A SPLASH PAD IN THAT CORNER THERE, RESTROOM BUILDING AND SEVERAL PAVILION SHADE PAVILIONS TO THE RIGHT.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PRESERVE AREA OR AN OPEN LAWN THAT KIND OF GETS YOU OVER TOWARDS THE LAKE SIDE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT VIEW AS YOU WALK ACROSS THE BOARDWALKS. WE ALSO HAVE FISHING PIERS THAT ARE INTRODUCED FOR FUTURE FISHING EVENTS, POTENTIALLY MOVING BACK ACROSS. YOU'LL SEE IN THAT LITTLE BROWN AREA, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE THAT'S REPRESENTED BY OUR MINI CHILDREN'S VILLAGE INSPIRED BY A PROJECT THAT'S HAPPENED OVER IN SUNRISE.
WE'LL GET INTO MORE DETAIL OF THAT AS WE GO.
BANKSHOT BASKETBALL IS ALSO IN THAT VICINITY AND OVER TO THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT, YOU GAIN ACCESS TO, OF COURSE, THE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELD WITH SOME PAVILIONS THERE AND AN OPEN SPACE BETWEEN THERE AND THE ACTUAL FIELD.
EDGE PICKLEBALL COURTS, YOU CAN SEE ON THIS ALIGNED ALONG THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY, ALONG WITH THE BASKETBALL COURTS, WE'VE KIND OF PUSHED THOSE TO THE SOUTH TO MAKE SURE WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE DISTANCE FOR SOUND BUFFER FOR OUR RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH.
THAT'S AN ACCENTED DRIVE THERE TO KIND OF INFORM THE DRIVERS, TO MAKE SURE TO BE SLOW AND CAUTIOUS AS THEY GO THROUGH THERE, AS THERE MAY BE SOME PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC THERE, BUT THAT CONNECTS YOU TO THE SECONDARY PARKING LOTS THAT WILL SERVE THE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELD AS WELL AS THE BASEBALL PART OF THE PROGRAM FOR THIS PARK.
ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT WE'VE MENTIONED WAS THE NINJA WARRIOR COURSE.
THAT IS A VERY UNIQUE FEATURE.
IT'S A UNIQUE IDENTIFYING ELEMENT THAT WE'VE KIND OF GRABBED A HOLD OF TO HELP IDENTIFY THIS PARK.
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THE COURSE IN AND OF ITSELF, WHAT IT ENTAILS IS ONE ONE LARGE COURSE.THE KIND OF THE GRAND FINALE TO THE COURSE IS BASICALLY A MOUND FEATURE.
IT HAS A SPIRAL PATH THAT WILL YOU CAN RUN UP AS YOU AT THE VERY END OF YOUR COURSE TO RING A BELL OR KIND OF MARK THE THE END THAT YOU HAVE FINISHED COMPLETED THE COURSE.
AND WE POSITIONED IT ON THE CORNER THERE BECAUSE IT COULD BE, LIKE I SAID, ICONIC.
THAT'S THE THE NINJA WARRIOR PARK.
SO WE'VE LOCATED IT THERE FOR THAT REASON.
AND OF COURSE, TO THE RIGHT WE HAVE OUR PRESERVE AREA AND OUR BUFFER.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RETENTION POND, WE HAVE MORE PRESERVE AREA FOR EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES, INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE FOR ECOLOGICAL AWARENESS. AND WE WOULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT HOW THE THE AREA.
THE ECOLOGICAL ASPECTS AND HISTORY IN THE AREA.
THIS ONE, INSTEAD OF BENDING TO THE LEFT, IF YOU'RE COMING OFF OF HILLSBOROUGH OR BOULEVARD, YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT LONGER ARRIVAL SEQUENCE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE ADVANTAGE OF THE PASSIVE AREA AND THE VIEWS INTO THE LAKE AND THE BUFFER AND THE PRESERVE AS YOU WIND AROUND TO A CONSOLIDATED CENTRAL PARKING AREA AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER CONCEPT.
THIS IS ONE LARGE PARKING LOT.
AS YOU ARRIVE, YOU WILL BE GREETED BY A KIND OF A LITTLE BIT, SORT OF A FORMAL OR SEMI-FORMAL FLEX LAWN, WE CALL IT, WHERE YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES LIKE AWARD CEREMONIES, ART FESTIVALS, ART SHOWS, CRAFT FAIRS, THINGS LIKE THAT IN FRONT OF THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.
AS YOU CAN SEE THAT FINALE FEATURE, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE NINJA WARRIOR COURSE AND THE NINJA WARRIOR COURSE ITSELF ARE NOW OVER IN THE CENTER, KIND OF CLUSTERED ALONG WITH THE OTHER THE OTHER ELEMENTS, THE BACK, AS WE'VE MENTIONED IN THE OTHER PROGRAM.
NOW, IN THIS CONCEPT, THE ONE UNIQUE ELEMENT IS THE THE LARGE CIRCLE, YELLOW CIRCLE THAT REPRESENTS A RESTROOM AND PAVILION THAT ALSO INCLUDES MEETING SPACE FOR MEETING AT 1200 SQUARE FEET OF MEETING SPACE THERE.
AGAIN, THIS ONE, THE BASEBALL AND MULTI-PURPOSE COURTS FIELDS ARE SHIFTED A LITTLE BIT TO THE WEST TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ARRANGEMENT THAT WE HAVE HERE.
I BELIEVE THAT KIND OF COVERS OUR THE EXTENT OF OUR DESIGN CONCEPT.
CHIP WANTS TO CHIP AND NICK WILL KIND OF GET A LITTLE BIT OF THE DETAILS OF EACH ELEMENT FOR YOU.
THANK YOU. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS THAT ARE BOTH ADULT SIZED, 275FT.
THERE'LL BE COVERED DUGOUTS, COVERED BLEACHERS.
WE'RE PROPOSING TWO BATTING CAGES AND ALSO SOME HIT DOWN STATIONS.
AND THE BASEBALL AND THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD WILL ALL BE NATURAL GRASS.
THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD WILL BE AN ADULT SIZED 225 BY 330.
AND GOING INTO THE NINJA COURSE, IT'S A FULL SIZE COURSE.
IT'S GEARED MORE TOWARDS TEENS AND ADULTS.
IT'LL BE VERY ACTIVE FOR THOSE AT YOUR OWN PACE OR KEEP EVERYBODY VERY ENGAGED.
AND THEN WE HAVE A PLAYGROUND, THAT PLAYGROUND AREA.
SO WE WERE LOOKING AT PLAY STRUCTURES.
THAT'S FOR ALL AGES AS WELL AS COVERED LIKE YOU HAVE AT PINE TRAILS PARK.
AS YOU SAW, THERE'S PROPOSED FOR BASKETBALL COURTS.
THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS ACTUALLY THAT BANK SHOT BASKETBALL.
IT'S ACTUALLY LIKE A CHALLENGE COURSE.
IT'S LIKE IF YOU SAY LIKE A MODIFIED HORSE GAME, IT'S WITH DIFFERENT VARYING HEIGHTS FOR THE BACKBOARDS AND DIFFERENT ANGLES ON THE BACKBOARDS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON SOME OF THOSE PICTURES. SO WHAT THAT DOES IS ALLOWS ANYBODY WITH ANY ABILITY OR DISABILITY TO PLAY TOGETHER BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT IS SHORTENED AND BECAUSE THE GAME IS REALLY BASED ON A POINT SYSTEM ON HOW YOU PLAY WITH THE DIFFERENT ANGLES.
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WE ALSO JUST WANTED TO SHOW KIND OF SOME SOME PICTURES OF SPLASH PAD AND IDEAS, WHETHER THEY'RE ABOVE GROUND, BELOW GROUND FEATURES.YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW SPLASH PADS KIND OF FUNCTION THERE.
YEAH, THE MANY PLAY VILLAGE IS A FAIRLY NEW DESIGN CONCEPT AND ELEMENT THAT IT'S PRETTY INNOVATIVE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS BEING ABOUT LIKE A MINI CITY, ABOUT TWO BLOCKS OF A MINI CITY FOR KIDS, THAT IT WILL PROVIDE A TEACHING EXPERIENCE FOR CIVIC LEARNING. IT WILL ALSO HELP KIDS LEARN TRAFFIC FLOW, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND BEST OF ALL, IT WILL HELP ALL ABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO PLAY AND INTERACT TOGETHER. AND THEN, AS YOU SAW, WE PROPOSE EIGHT PICKLEBALL COURTS.
SO THEY'RE RENTABLE BASED ON THE CITY STANDARD.
WITH THAT, I'D LOVE TO TALK TO SOME OF YOUR GUYS'S FEEDBACK.
OKAY. DO I NEED TO OPEN IT UP TO.
ANY. LET'S OPEN UP TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IF THERE IS ANYONE THAT WANTS TO COME UP, ASK ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY COMMENTS? YES. GO AHEAD, BRANDON. ACTUALLY, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
YOU HAD ALLUDED TO THE PAVILIONS BEING RENTABLE SPACE SIMILAR TO THE OTHER CITY PARK PROPERTIES, AND YOU HAD TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A 1200 SQUARE FOOT MEETING ROOM. IS THE INTENTION THE SAME TO ALLOW RESIDENTS TO RENT THAT ROOM FOR MEETINGS AND BIRTHDAY PARTIES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE? IS THE THOUGHT DIFFERENT BEHIND THAT MEETING ROOM? I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL.
SO WHEN WE WERE HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL EXPLORE.
CURRENTLY, OUR FACILITIES ARE NOT OPEN FOR LIKE BIRTHDAY PARTIES PER SE.
SO THAT WOULD BE AN AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE COULD NOW PROVIDE THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE.
GOING TO THINK ABOUT IS A FORMER CORAL SPRINGS RESIDENT.
YOU WE HAD THAT AND IT WAS POPULAR OBVIOUSLY IF THE CITY'S GOT OTHER IDEAS THOUGH, RIGHT? ONE OTHER. YOU SAID IT WAS POPULAR.
IT WAS POPULAR, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS WHEN IT WAS SO HOT.
INSTEAD OF RENTING THE PAVILION, YOU COULD RENT THE INDOOR SPACE AND STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE RIGHT AND THE LOCATION ON THE SITE PLAN BEING MY PLAYGROUNDS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. YEAH. JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION, MR. CHAIR. AND THE CONSULTANTS HAD ALLUDED TO THE PICKLEBALL COURTS BEING FURTHER FROM THE ROADS AND HOMES.
OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE HEARD SOME FOLKS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SOUND.
IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN PLAYING TENNIS, SO THERE'S A LOT OF BANGING AND NOISE.
ALTHOUGH I JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR COMMENTS ON THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AND THE DISTANCE FROM ANY ADJACENT HOMES, I GUESS ON THE SOUTH SIDE THERE. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE SET BACK EVEN IN CONCEPT A.
YOU HAVE THE ROAD NOISE AND THEN YOU HAVE THE BUFFER, THE 45 FOOT BUFFER.
THEN YOU HAVE THE INDUSTRIAL BUFFER ON THE OTHER SIDE.
SO WE KIND OF LOOKED AT HOW IT'S KIND OF EQUIDISTANT.
AND ALSO WITH THE ADDITION OF THE ROAD NOISE, KIND OF BUFFERING THAT AS WELL.
WE THANK YOU. I QUESTION THE WATER FEATURES, RIGHT? I DO SEE THERE'S WELL, YOU KNOW, RELATIVE PERCENTAGE OF THE LAND IS THAT REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT MUCH WATER.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE OUR STORMWATER POND.
I RAN PARKLAND BASKETBALL FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
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SO WE HAD SENIORS THAT HAD TO PLAY AT TERRAMAR AND THE YOUNGER KIDS PLAY AT PINE TRAILS.SO DO WE KNOW WHAT THESE COURT SIZES? BECAUSE I GUESS IF THEY WERE THE LARGER SIZE THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE SENIORS, THEN IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER BECAUSE THAT DRIVE DOWN HOLMBERG TO GET TO THE PARKS WAS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE. SO AND I HAVEN'T SEEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT PARK, I DON'T KNOW ACTUALLY WHAT PARKLAND BASKETBALL IS DOING REGARDING THAT.
BUT CERTAINLY NOW THAT THIS IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, WOULD MAKE SENSE TO AT LEAST TALK WITH THE.
AND I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ASKING WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO ANSWER THE FIRST PART OF THE QUESTION.
THE COURTS ARE FULL SIZE, SO THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY FOR THAT.
THE SECOND THING IS, IS AS WE GOT CLOSER AND CLOSER TO LOOKING AND LOOKING AT THIS PARK AND HEARING FROM OUR RESIDENTS AND FEEDBACK AND SO FORTH, THAT THE IDEA AND THE INTENT OF THIS PARK IS TO BE MAKE SURE IT'S COMMUNITY BASED, YOU KNOW, AND THAT IT'S NOT JUST LEAGUE DRIVEN, EVEN THOUGH OUR LEAGUES PLAY A VIABLE PART IN OUR IN OUR CITY AND OUR PROGRAMS DEFINITELY COULD BE UTILIZED AS SPILLOVER OR ADDITIONAL NEEDS, YOU KNOW, AS NEEDED BASIS.
BUT THE INTENT IS FOR THIS TO BE DESIGNED AND PROGRAMED FOR THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.
IT WAS ABOUT THE, THE THE EDUCATIONAL AMENITY.
WERE ARE THERE OTHER BESIDES THE ONE YOU MENTIONED, WERE THERE ANY OTHER ONES THAT WERE UNDER CONSIDERATION OR CAN BE ADDED? BECAUSE I THINK SOMEONE HAD MENTIONED TO ME ABOUT ONE CALLED THE STORY WALK OR SOMETHING FROM BOCA.
IS THAT ARE THERE IS THERE WAYS TO JUST HAVE OTHER OPTIONS TO ADD TO IT, OR IS IT THIS OR THAT ONE? WHEN IT COMES TO THE THAT STUFF.
ALL RIGHT. HERE WE'RE AT THE VERY BEGINNING PHASE OF OUR DESIGN OPTIONS.
SO THIS IS LIKE A REALLY PRELIMINARY PLAN GETTING INTO STORY WALK AND SOME OF THE SPECIFICS OR THINGS WE COULD HAVE CONVERSATION AND WE WANT TO HEAR THAT FEEDBACK AND THINGS THAT WE COULD. AS WE DEVELOP AND GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE COULD HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO ADD, LIKE YOU SAID, A STORY WALK TO WHAT DEGREE AND WHAT ELEMENT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT 100% SURE OF, BUT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE FEEDBACKS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR.
QUESTION. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE BANKSHOT BASKETBALL BEING LIKE AN ALL INCLUSIVE FEATURE.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE SPECIFICALLY OR IS THAT REALLY.
THE MAIN ALL INCLUSIVE BECAUSE A NINJA WARRIOR IS GOING TO ELIMINATE A LOT OF.
DISABLED. BUT THEN YOU HAVE SENSORY TYPE STUFF THAT PARKS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
BUT ALL THE OTHER COMPONENTS, THE TRAILS, EVERYTHING IS, YOU KNOW, TEN FOOT WIDE, THE PRESERVES, THE EDUCATIONAL AREAS, THE THE BANK SHOP, THE PLAYGROUND AND THE THE MINI PLAY VILLAGE WILL ALL BE INCLUSIVE.
ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND, TOO, IS JUST THE WAY PEOPLE ARE GETTING AROUND THE ENTIRE PARK.
OBVIOUSLY, FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE PLAYGROUND TO THE BANK SHOT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PARKS WHERE IF YOU'RE IN A WHEELCHAIR OR A WALKER, YOU'RE EXTREMELY LIMITED IF YOU'RE HITTING MULCH OR GRAVEL.
SO I THINK REALLY KEEPING IN MIND HOW SOMEONE'S GOING TO NAVIGATE THE ENTIRE PARK AND BE ABLE TO ENJOY IT, EVEN IF THEY'RE JUST GOING TO WATCH A NINJA WARRIOR COURSE, IF THEY HAVE A PATH TO GET THERE TO ENJOY MAYBE THEIR SIBLINGS DOING SOMETHING THEY CANNOT.
YES, SIR. ASK COMPARATIVE COMPARING CONCEPT A TO CONCEPT B.
HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS ARE AT EACH? SO THEY BOTH HAVE ROUGHLY 265 PARKING SPACES? YEAH, SAME. OKAY.
AND HAVE YOU CONSIDERED A GOLF CART ONLY OR A GOLF CART? DEDICATED PARKING AREA.
SPEAKING OF. IS THERE A CONCERN OVER A NINJA COURSE? A NINJA WARRIOR COURSE FOR INSURANCE PREMIUMS, OR IS IT THE SAME RISK AS A PLAYGROUND? FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING, IT'S ABOUT THE SAME RISK.
IT'S DEFINITELY WILL BE VETTED THROUGH OUR INSURANCE CARRIER AND SO FORTH WITH THE CITY.
BUT THERE'S AT THIS POINT NO RED FLAGS IN REGARDS TO THAT.
ANY THOUGHT OF A VALET PARKING OR VALET VALET PARKING WAS A COMMUTER PARKING GARAGE.
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LOTS OF PICKLEBALL COURTS.I KNOW LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DRIVE BY NORTH SPRINGS PARK.
WAS THAT EVER I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
WAS THAT EVER UNDER CONSIDERATION OR EVEN SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT? YEAH, IT'S FUNNY YOU BRING THAT UP BECAUSE WE DID WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS IN REGARDS TO VOLLEYBALL, ESPECIALLY FROM SOME OF THE RESULTS THAT WE GET BACK FROM OUR COMMUNITY SURVEYS AND SO FORTH.
SO TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REACHING THE MAJORITY PART OF OUR RESIDENTS IN THE HIGHER DEMANDS THAT WE'RE HEARING BACK FROM, YOU KNOW, BASKETBALL COURTS, PICKLEBALL COURTS, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF AMENITIES IS WHAT WE'RE HEARING.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, CHRISTINE.
SO I'M ASSUMING IT HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED YET, BUT FROM WHAT YOU SAID JUST EARLIER, SO THIS IS LOOKING TO BE A NON LEAGUE TYPE PARK JUST FOR RESIDENT USE ONLY AND NOT ONLY, BUT PRIMARILY PRIMARILY.
MY CONCERN IS WHEN WE DID OUR MASTER PLAN AND STUFF, THEY SAID WE WERE SHORT SOCCER FIELDS WERE SHORT, BASEBALL FIELDS WERE SHORT, SOFTBALL FIELDS WERE SHORT, ALL THESE FIELDS. AND IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW OUR LEAGUES, IF WE'RE GOING TO DESIGN THIS FOR THE COMMUNITY, I GET IT.
I'M JUST WONDERING HOW MUCH FOR BASKETBALL I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I JUST DON'T SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE NECESSARILY GOING AND PLAYING PICK UP BASEBALL GAME OR PICK UP PICK UP GAMES TO WHERE WE'RE NOW GOING TO LIMIT THIS TO THAT AND DESIGN IT FOR THAT.
WHEN HOW MUCH USE IS IT ACTUALLY GOING TO GET? AND THIS IS THIS IS ABOUT ALL THE LAND WE'RE GOING TO GET IN THE CITY.
AND WE'RE ALREADY BEING TOLD BY THE CITY TO RESTRICT THE ENROLLMENT IN OUR RECREATIONAL SPORTS PROGRAMS FOR OUR YOUTH AND TELL PEOPLE THEY CAN'T PLAY. AND SO I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED IF WE GO WHERE IT'S THAT ROUTE.
I SEE A LOT OF THINGS LIKE WHEN I LOOK AT CONCEPT B HERE, THERE ARE SO MANY WONDERFUL THINGS ON THAT THING ON OUR EASTERN HALF OF IT THAT ARE VERY COMMUNITY BASED WHERE EVERYBODY IS JUST TO GO LOOKS LIKE A VERY FUN PLACE WHERE FAMILIES ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO HANG OUT.
I DON'T SEE WHY THE FIELDS THAT WE'RE PUTTING THERE COULDN'T BE MORE.
I'M JUST WORRIED THAT IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE USED FOR REC LEAGUE UNLESS REC LEAGUE, SOCCER, LACROSSE, WHATEVER, UNLESS, YOU KNOW, NOBODY ELSE HAPPENS TO BE USING THEM. WE'RE NEGATING WHAT WE DID A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN WE DID THAT STUDY AND PUT IN THE MASTER PLAN THAT THIS IS WHAT WE NEED.
AND THIS IS, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS KIND OF OUR ONE SHOT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE WE'RE GOING TO FIND LAND IN THE CITY.
DULY NOTED. AS YOU REFERENCED, THE PARK MASTER PLAN AND WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OVER THE YEARS, AS YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS WERE MUCH INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS AS WELL TO THE FINAL PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN DID COME OUT AND DICTATE IN REGARDS TO OUR CURRENT LEVELS AND AND WHERE OUR FUTURE GROWTH IN CITY WILL GO TO IN REGARDS TO SOME OF THE AMENITIES.
KEEPING IN MIND THAT THIS WAS A NATIONAL METRIC THAT WAS USED.
SO IT WASN'T JUST SPECIFIC TO PARKLAND.
AND SO IT'S JUST A IT'S JUST ANOTHER TOOL MECHANISM THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT IN REGARDS TO DO WE HAVE ENOUGH OF THESE FIELDS FOR A CITY OF OUR SIZE? REALLY WHAT YOU DRILL DOWN INTO IS, IS IN REGARDS TO WHAT OUR SPECIFIC CITY NEEDS MAY BE.
BUT WE ALREADY KNOW THE FOUR THAT WE HAD AND NOW WE HAVE SIX.
EVEN AT THAT, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BECAUSE WE ARE HEARING BACK THAT FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT YES, WE'RE HEARING SOME FROM SOME OF THE YOUTH.
WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR RESIDENT ADULT POPULATION THAT ARE NOT A PART OF OUR LEAGUES THAT WANT TO COME AND USE OUR MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS FOR PERMITS FOR ADULT SOCCER USE AND GAMES AND AND SO FORTH.
SO THAT WAS KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA PROCESS IN REGARDS TO ALLOWING MORE OF THIS ADULT PLAY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR NOTE AS WELL, TOO, IN THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS LIKE OVERARCHING PRIORITIES FOR RECREATION AND PROGRAMING AND WHERE, YOU KNOW, THAT CAME BACK FROM OUR SURVEY THAT WAS DONE DURING THAT TIME AND WHERE THE INVESTMENT MAY OR SHOULD BE.
BUT WE HAVE ROLLED OUT, YOU KNOW, OUR ADULT KICKBALL LEAGUE AND ADULT SOFTBALL LEAGUES AND SO FORTH.
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SO ALLOWING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TO MOVE OVER TO THIS AND ALLOW SOME MORE ADULT PROGRAMING TO TAKE PLACE WAS THE THOUGHT.I HAVE AGAIN BRIAN AGAIN BRIAN IS WASN'T SAYING LEAVES.
I GOT YOU. RIGHT. RIGHT, RIGHT.
BUT BUT THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AND HEAR WHAT THE INPUT IS THAT MY BIG CONCERN, THOUGH, IS, LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE SHORT MULTIPURPOSE LACROSSE ISN'T GETTING FIELDS OR SOCCER IS NOT GETTING FIELDS.
SO THAT WAS MY ONE CONCERN IS.
YEAH. YOU KNOW, SO I'M JUST WORRIED THAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR THIS.
OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THESE ADULT LEAGUES.
THERE'S AN ADULT SOFTBALL LEAGUE IN COCONUT CREEK.
THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO GO WHERE THE BEST LEAGUE IS.
SO IF WE YOU KNOW, I'M JUST WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THE YOUTH.
WE'RE BUILDING EVEN MORE HOUSES NOW, APPARENTLY IN HERON BAY.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE PLAY AREAS.
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU GUYS FOR TWO VERY WONDERFUL CONCEPTS FOR FAMILIES.
THESE PLAY AREAS ARE SO EXCITING TO SEE THE SPECIAL CONCEPTS.
ACTUALLY, THE MINI VILLAGE IS SOMETHING THAT HAD SPOKEN TO MANY PARENTS ABOUT AND GONE TO SUNRISE AND SEEN AND WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE HEARD A LOT ASKING, CAN'T WE GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT HERE? WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE A MINI VILLAGE LIKE THAT HERE IN PARKLAND.
SO THE FACT THAT YOU INCLUDED SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND CONSIDERING THE LOCATION OF THIS PARK AND THE NEW FAMILIES THAT ARE MOVING INTO THAT AREA ARE GOING TO HAVE YOUNGER CHILDREN AND THE PLAY AREAS ARE GOING TO BE OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE FOR THE FAMILIES.
I THE VILLAGE IS VERY EXCITING AND THAT IT WOULD BE TWO BLOCKS LONG.
WILL THE HOUSES WILL YOU BE ABLE TO ENTER THE HOUSES? UNLIKE THE SUNRISE, YOU MUST HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO OUR MEETINGS.
EVERYBODY GOES THERE AND IT'S LIKE, OH, SO WE'VE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION.
AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY EARLY STAGES OF IT.
IT IS STUFF THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO.
ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS TO REMEMBER TOO IS, IS EVERYTHING COMES WITH A PRICE TAG, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT THE BUDGET IS FOR THIS FOR THIS PARK AS WELL AS WHAT WE COULD ACTUALLY PUT IN VERSUS OUR WANTS AND DESIRES MAY VARY, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OR DRASTICALLY OR WHEREVER THAT MAY FALL.
BUT BUT WE HAVE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
AND YES, THE SUNRISE PARK DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO CURRENTLY GO IN THOSE.
AND THEY'RE USED MORE FOR LIKE STORAGE TYPE OF COMPONENTS.
THEY'RE DOING SOME RESEARCH OF ANOTHER AREA, I THINK OUT IN TEXAS THAT THAT MAY HAVE THAT POTENTIAL.
SO IT'S JUST AN EVALUATION PROCESS.
SO THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING AND WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT.
AND IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME, I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS ON THE PLATE.
THE PLAYGROUND AREA FOR THE SPLASH PAD.
I AM ALSO AGAIN THRILLED TO SEE A SPLASH PAD.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED IN THE CITY.
WE HAVE ONE AND IT IS GREAT, BUT WE DO NEED ANOTHER ONE.
IS THE WATER FEATURES YOU'RE THINKING TO BE SIMILAR TO SHOOTING UP OUT OF THE GROUND WITH A FEW ACCESS FEATURES VERSUS LIKE WHAT IS, I WOULD SAY, LARGE FIXTURES AT THE LIBERTY PARK.
I'M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD COMPARE.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, YES, IT IS MOSTLY THE WATER COMING OUT OF THE GROUND.
LARGE FEATURES LIKE WHAT'S CURRENTLY AT LIBERTY PARK? NO, MA'AM. YEAH, BECAUSE THAT ALSO LIMITS THE MOBILITY ENABLED TO GET AROUND AND WHAT YOU CAN DO WITHIN THERE.
WHAT IS THE PLAYGROUNDS ON BOTH CONCEPTS? ARE THEY GATED? BECAUSE I NOTICED IN THE FIRST CONCEPT IT'S VERY CLOSE TO PARKING.
A LOT OF THESE, LIKE THE DESIGN DETAILS AREN'T ACTUALLY THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A TRUE REPRESENTATION, BUT I SEE SIX YELLOW SAILS AND A AND THREE AND AND B, AND I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHAT NUMBER OF CHILDREN THOSE TWO COMPARISON AREAS ARE ABLE TO SERVE.
SO THE TWO IT IS ACTUALLY DECEIVING.
THE TWO SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE ARE THE SAME.
I WAS LIKE, WHY IS THIS LOOK SO SMALLER? BUT IT IS SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE THE SAME.
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SO ARE YOU THINKING WITH THE CONCEPT A VERSUS B HAVING AS WE DO IN PINE TRAILS AND AND MOST OF OUR PARKS, A SEPARATION FOR OLDER AND YOUNGER CHILDREN? AND I WAS ASSUMING THAT IS WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN CONCEPT A WOULD THAT ALSO BE SEPARATED IN CONCEPT B SO IN GENERALITY.SO LIKE IF YOU GO TO PINE TRAILS CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE TWO LITTLE PLAY OR TWO PLAY AREAS, EACH PLAY AREA DOES HAVE DEFINED ELEMENTS FOR VARYING AGES.
THEY ARE ALL LABELED, IDENTIFIED AND SO FORTH.
IS THERE ANY CONCERN BY PUTTING THE NINJA COURSE SO CLOSE TO THE PLAYGROUND AND THE VILLAGE THAT IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM OR ATTRACTING MUCH YOUNGER CHILDREN THAT ARE THE PARK IS NOT REALLY DESIGNED FOR WITH THAT FEATURE VERSUS IN CONCEPT? A IT IS ALL THE WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE.
AND IN MY OPINION, THERE IS NOT, AS WITH MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER ACTIVE ELEMENTS THAT ARE IN THE PARK, I WOULD DEFINITELY KEEP THAT SEPARATION FROM KIDS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK INTO AND SEE IN OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE THE NINJA WARRIOR COURSES OR FITNESS COURSES AND SO FORTH IN REGARDS TO WHERE IT'S AT IN PROXIMITY AND THAT SAFETY ELEMENT THAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT.
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY TOO, THAT NINJA COURSE ELEMENT THAT SOUNDS AMAZING AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, AS HAVING A VERY ACTIVE EIGHT YEAR OLD SON, THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST THING HE WOULD RUN TO.
AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF CHILDREN IN THE UPPER ELEMENTARY AGE DO LOOK FOR SOMETHING EXCITING AND CHALLENGING WHEN THEY GO TO THE PARKS TO KEEP THEM INTERESTED, WHETHER THEY'RE THERE FOR A, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY ELSE, AN OLDER SIBLING, PLAYING A GAME.
SO I REALLY AM EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
AND MY LAST QUESTION IS NOT RELATED TO PLAYGROUNDS, SO THANK YOU.
IN THE TWO CONCEPTS IN B YOU HAVE, IT LOOKS LIKE A SMALLER AREA FOR THE STORMWATER STORAGE, WHICH WOULD OPEN A PRESERVE AREA THAT A PATH IS CIRCLING AROUND.
WOULD THAT BE A BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE WOULD THAT GIVE IF WE HAD TO EXPAND ANYTHING IN THERE OR WOULD THAT JUST SIMPLY BE VIEWED AS PRESERVE? I JUST SEE THAT IN HOWARD'S COMMENT HOW DO WE EXPAND THIS PARK WHERE IT STICKS UP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN CONCEPT B AND CONCEPT BE PRESERVE? THAT'S UP IN THAT.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM TO PLAY WITH FOR GROWTH IN THE FUTURE.
IF THAT AREA NEEDED TO HAVE ANOTHER PLAY AREA OR SOMETHING ELSE INSTALLED INTO THERE, THAT WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY, AS WOULD THE OPEN FIELDS FOR THE CRAFT FAIRS AND THE MARKETS.
THAT SEEMS TO ME CONCEPT B WOULD GIVE YOU A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY TO GROW WITHIN THAT SPACE.
WAS THERE A QUESTION? JUST. I WAS JUST COMMENT.
I WAS QUESTIONING IF WE DO THAT AS A PRESERVE IN THE CIRCLE.
I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING WE'D BE ABLE TO IN THE FUTURE TAKE DOWN AND USE THAT IF WE HAD TO HAVE THAT AREA FOR SOMETHING OR WOULD WE BE REQUIRED TO KEEP THAT AS A PRESERVE? AS LONG AS YOUR GRANT REQUIRES A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF PRESERVE ON THE PARK.
AND SO AS LONG AS THE PARKS WITHIN A SPECIFIC BECAUSE WE'RE AS GAIL MENTIONED, THESE AREN'T REAL PRESERVE REPLANTING, RIGHT? SO AS LONG AS THE PARK MAINTAINS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF THE GRANT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT JOB.
OH, YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? I CAN WAIT. JUST ONE.
I'M EXCITED ABOUT BOTH CONCEPTS.
I MEAN, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB SO FAR WITH THIS.
I HAVE A QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO THE RESTROOM.
WHILE I UNDERSTAND CONCEPT BE WHY THE RESTROOM ARE, I KNOW BOTH.
THERE ARE TWO TWO SETS, RIGHT? FOR EACH IT'S ACTUALLY THREE SETS OF THREE, SO TO SPEAK, IN THE MIC.
SO IT'S THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE SETS ON EACH.
SO THE EASIEST WAY TO SHOW ON CONCEPT, ON BOTH CONCEPTS, THERE'S ONE BUILDING THAT'S NEXT TO THE SPORTS FIELDS. THEN LIKE ON THIS ONE, THERE'S ONE RIGHT HERE AND THEN ONE RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN THAT FIRST ONE, I UNDERSTAND IT'S THE CONCEPT.
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B SO THIS IN THE.SO THIS IS THE SECOND BATHROOM RIGHT HERE.
THIS WOULD HAVE A THIS BUILDING WOULD HAVE A RESTROOM THAT'S ACCESSIBLE TO THE OUTSIDE.
ON THE WESTERN END? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND RIGHT HERE.
THIS ONE RIGHT HERE WOULD BE THE RESTROOM.
YOU GOT ANOTHER ONE ABOVE. CORRECT.
THIS IS THE MAINTENANCE SHED AND THE MAINTENANCE SHED ON THIS ONE.
SO EACH EACH ONE HAS THREE FULL SETS OF RESTROOMS LOCATED SO THAT WE TRY TO CENTRALIZE IT SO EACH.
EACH PLAY HAD A CENTRALIZED AREA THAT WOULDN'T HAVE TO HIKE UP VERY LONG.
AND I CAN TELL YOU WHAT A LOT OF THOUGHT AND EFFORT IN IT.
AND I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.
CONCEPT A, THE THE DRIVE THAT IS TO THE EAST AND SOUTH BY THE WATER STORMWATER POND.
WHY WOULD YOU NOT HAVE CONSIDERED TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE EXISTING MEDIAN CUTS ON HILLSBOROUGH AND GO DIRECTLY INTO THE PARKING FIELD RATHER THAN CREATE THIS LONG MEANDERING DRIVE, WHICH IS A LOT OF A LOT MORE PAVEMENT AND A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE.
SO YOU COULD LITERALLY TURN RIGHT IN FROM AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO ANY WORK ON HILLSBOROUGH.
UM, I FEEL LIKE THE PARKING FIELDS ON A ARE CONFUSING.
UM, I THINK, I THINK I THINK THE IDEA OF THE LANE BETWEEN THE TWO CONCEPTS IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK OF WHAT I SEE AT TERRAMAR AND WHAT I SEE AT PINE TRAILS WHEN WE'RE BUSY.
AND I THINK I FIND THE PARKING ARRANGEMENT ON B TO BE SUPERIOR BECAUSE IT'S IN ONE SPOT.
AGAIN, THAT'S JUST AN OBSERVATION OF PERSONAL PREFERENCE.
WHAT YOU WILL ON ON SPORTS FIELD AND PARKING LOT LIGHTING.
WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT GIVEN TO THE LIGHT POLLUTION THAT WILL CREATE THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY BE CREATED FOR BOTH PARKLAND GOLF AND MIRALAGO ON BOTH SIDES TO MINIMIZE? SO, YES, OF COURSE, WE'RE ALWAYS AWARE OF THAT, ESPECIALLY WHENEVER THERE'S ANY ACTIVE ELEMENTS IN OUR PARKS ARE OPEN FROM MORNING TO NINE, 10:00 AT NIGHT.
UM, CURRENTLY, THE CITY USES MUSCO LIGHTING SYSTEM.
IT'S STATE OF THE ART. TOP OF THE LINE SPORTS LIGHTING.
THE LED LIGHTS IS THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
MUSCO DOES A VERY GOOD JOB IN REGARDS TO PHOTOMETRIC IN THE VILLAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PHOTOMETRIC AND THOSE READINGS ARE CONTAINED ON THE AREA OF THE SPORTS FIELD. AND I THINK THE BUFFERS ARE HUGE REALLY ON THE MIRALAGO SIDE.
AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, THE PARKLAND GOLF ARE PRETTY ROBUST AS WELL.
SO I'M NOT REAL WORRIED ABOUT IT, BUT I THOUGHT I'D RAISE IT THEN.
THEN WHEN YOU SAID THE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELD, YOU SPECIFIED A GRASS MULTI MULTI-PURPOSE FIELD.
DIDN'T WE JUST SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY CONVERTING THE PINE TRAILS MULTI FIELD FROM GRASS TO TURF? SO WOULDN'T WE? WOULDN'T IT BE SMART TO JUST REALIZE THAT THE GRASS DIDN'T WORK THE FIRST TIME AND MAYBE CONSIDER GOING DIRECTLY WITH TURF? JUST A THOUGHT. SO ONE OF THE REASONS IN REGARDS TO THE PINE TRAILS UPGRADES IS OBVIOUSLY THOSE FIELDS ARE USED A LOT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 365 DAYS, OR WOULD BE PREFERRED TO BE USED 365 DAYS BY OUR LEAGUES.
SO THERE REALLY IS NO TRUE DOWNTIME AND MAINTENANCE PLAN TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THOSE FIELDS THE PROPER REST AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S NEEDED BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF LEAGUES AND THE DIFFERENT SPORTS SEASONS WE GO THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AGAIN, WITH THIS CONCEPT AND THIS IDEA IS BEING MADE MORE FOR LIKE COMMUNITY PLAY AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WITH SOME SPILLAGE OF OUR REC LEAGUES THAT THE WEAR AND TEAR WOULD NOT BE AS GREAT AS WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON SOME OF THE FIELDS OVER AT PINE TRAILS.
IT'S DULY NOTED, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL OF TURF FIELDS.
BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET $2, $4.
SO CERTAINLY AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT THE PARENTS AND THE AND THE HOME OWNERS AND THE YOU KNOW, AND THE RESIDENTS, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO BE UNDER MORE PRESSURE TO FILL THOSE FILL THAT FIELD MORE THAN MAYBE YOU THINK.
I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THAT'S THAT'S DULY NOTED.
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IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 60%, THOUGH.WE ONLY NEED LIKE 20% FIELD REST.
BUT THAT'S OKAY. NO, NO, BUT I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE REST.
I'M TALKING ABOUT ABOUT THE FACT THAT IF THERE'S A FIELD SITTING OPEN AND YOU CAN'T GET A FIELD AT PINE TRAILS, THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, WELL, WHY CAN'T I USE THAT? AND I JUST THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE I THINK AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE PRESSURE FOR FIELDS.
AND AND I LOVE THE CONCEPT, YOU KNOW, AND I AND I SEE IT AND I SEE IT ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW, WITH WHEN WHEN WE USED TO PLAY WHEN I USED TO COACH BASKETBALL REC IS IS THE GUY WHO'S WAITING OUT THERE TO PLAY AT 9:00 AT NIGHT AND IT'S AND IT'S AND IT'S A TRUE PROBLEM.
AND MAYBE WHAT YOU COULD DO IS YOU COULD BLOCK OUT CERTAIN TIMES FOR LEAGUES AND CERTAIN TIMES.
PICKLEBALL COURTS, YOU'RE BUILDING EIGHT.
WE HAVE SIX NOW, RIGHT? YOU'RE BUILDING EIGHT. I THINK YOU'RE UNDER BUILDING IT BY HALF.
I MEAN, MAYBE NOT 16, BUT MAYBE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S A LITTLE TOO MUCH.
BUT I THINK I THINK WE ARE SEEING EXPLOSIVE GROWTH IN THIS SPORT.
YOU KNOW, WE WE HAVE TWO IN PARKLAND GOLF.
THEY WANT TO BUILD LIKE SEVEN.
AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TO KEEP A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE IN THAT.
BUT AND MAYBE WHAT YOU DO IS YOU BUILD EIGHT WITH THE SPACE TO BUILD EIGHT MORE DOWN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT THOUGHT PROCESS AND IT'S BEEN PART OF OUR CONVERSATION.
AS LONG AS WE'RE MEETING, MEETING AND MAINTAINING THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR GRANT, WE'VE GOT SOME FLEXIBILITY TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL AS EVEN POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES. AND I JUST SEE PICKLEBALL AS GROWING.
I MEAN, 18 MONTHS AGO I LAUGHED AT MY STEPMOTHER IN THE VILLAGES BECAUSE SHE WAS PLAYING PICKLEBALL.
YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK I THINK IT'S GOING TO GROW.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT REVOLUTIONARY, YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU READ ANY OF YOUR TRADES AND THEN FOR THE FOR THE STORMWATER, IS THERE ANY THOUGHT OF MAYBE LIKE A FEATURE, LIKE A FOUNTAIN ELEMENT OR SOMETHING TO, YOU KNOW, A TO LOOK BEAUTIFUL, BUT ALSO TO MOVE THE WATER? IS THAT SOMETHING WE'VE LOOKED AT? SO THOSE WERE PART OF AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AS NICK HAS SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
AGAIN, A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION AND THOUGHT PROCESS GOES INTO MAINTENANCE, LONG TERM COSTS, YOU KNOW, REOCCURRING COSTS AND THINGS TO THAT NATURE, BUT STILL ADDING SOMETHING ESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND ATTRACTIVE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
SO DOING THAT BALANCE WILL BE FUTURE CONVERSATIONS.
SO I JUST I REALLY FEEL ADAMANTLY THAT THAT SIMPLE IS BETTER.
BUT I DO I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WENT ON TO THIS.
AND I WANT TO COMMEND ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU.
BACK TO THE LAKE, IF I COULD, REAL QUICK, WILL THAT BE A FISHING LAKE THAT'LL BE STOCKED WITH APPROPRIATE SPECIES THAT'LL EAT THE ALGAE AND CREATE A POSITIVE ECOSYSTEM? YEAH. THE INTENT IS YOU'LL BE ABLE TO FISH FROM THERE.
THAT'S WHY THEY ALSO HAVE THE FISHING DOCKS ADDED ON.
HOW DEEP DO YOU THINK THAT'LL BE? AND EIGHT FEET.
IT'LL BE ABOUT EIGHT FEET. EIGHT FEET ALL AROUND.
WELL, I MEAN, AS WE GRADE UP TO SIZE, BUT YEAH, THE AVERAGE.
YEAH, AVERAGE EIGHT FOOT DEPTH.
ADDITION OF LOOKING AT THE BASKETBALL PICKLEBALL, HAS THERE BEEN DISCUSSION OF CREATING A COVERED AREA SO YOU COULD PLAY IN ALL WEATHER? YES. DULY NOTED.
YEAH. AND THEN ONE OTHER THING REGARDING THE WHAT'S IT CALLED? THE BANKSHOT PARK.
YOU KNOW, BANKSHOT PARK AND BASKETBALL BOTH REQUIRE THE SAME TOOL.
THEY FEEL THEY SHOULD BE CLOSER TOGETHER.
SO IN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE LEARNED IS THAT THE THE WHO YOU ATTRACT TO BOTH OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE IN ITSELF.
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BOTH THE MUSIC AND JUST THE COMMENTARY.ABSOLUTELY. IS IT POSSIBLE TO DESIGN THE BASKETBALL COURTS WITH ROOM FOR THE FOOTERS TO COVER IT LATER? IF THERE WAS SUCH A TIME WHERE THE COMMISSIONERS THOUGHT IT WISE TO TO BUILD THAT? THE QUESTION IS. THE QUESTION IS, COULD YOU DESIGN IT WITH WOULD IT BE FOR THE FOOTERS AND COVER IT LATER? OR IS THAT JUST FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, IMPOSSIBLE? I WOULD SUGGEST IT'S PROBABLY BEST TO DO IT AT THE TIME WHEN YOU HAVE A DESIGN FULLY DESIGNED.
YEAH, BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN THAT KIND OF DONE IN OTHER AREAS.
AND YOU HAVE TO HOPE THAT THE ONE THAT YOU INSPECT IS STILL AVAILABLE.
FAIR POINT. OKAY. THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT, KIND OF PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT DAVID SAID EARLIER, THAT I THINK WE'RE KIDDING OURSELVES IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO END UP HAVING LEAGUE USE ON THESE. AND THE ONLY REASON I BRING THAT UP IS I'M TRYING TO THINK OF HOW MUCH MONEY WE JUST SPENT CONVERTING ONE ADULT FIELD INTO TWO 200 FOOT FIELDS.
AND SO WOULD IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO MAYBE PUT ONE ADULT FIELD AND TWO 200 FOOT FIELDS THAT LISTEN, FAMILIES CAN STILL GO PLAY ON A 200 FOOT FIELD? GET MORE FIELD SPACE OUT OF THIS THAN TO ADULT FIELDS THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY COULD HAVE BEEN 3 OR 4 FIELDS, SMALLER FIELDS THAT MOST ADULTS MAYBE NOT THE LESSON ADULT LEAGUES. I PLAYED ADULT SOFTBALL HALF OF MY LIFE AND IT WAS ALWAYS ON A 200 FOOT FIELD.
WHERE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO. ONCE YOU HIT TWO HOME RUNS, YOU CAN'T HIT IT OUT.
THAT'S JUST THE RULES OF THE LEAGUE.
SO WE BUILD THESE THREE, YOU TWO BIG FIELDS, AND THEN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WE GO.
AND BY THE TIME IT WAS DONE, OH, WE NEED SIX LANES GOING EACH WAY.
THAT'S ALL. SO, BRIAN, LET ME GO AHEAD AND ASK YOU THIS.
IF THERE IF THERE WAS SPACE AND THE ABILITY TO DO ONE ADULT AND TWO KIDS, LIKE YOU SAID, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK YOUR IDEAL KID SIZE FIELD FENCE SHOULD BE? 200FT. THAT'S WHAT IT IS FOR LITTLE LEAGUE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC FOR ANYBODY.
YES. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? NO. OKAY.
WELL, THANK YOU TO CPAS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND SOME EXCELLENT CONCEPTS.
THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR SOME GREAT INPUT, QUESTIONS AND IDEAS.
IS THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE STAFF?
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CHRISTINE, DID YOU HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS? I MEAN, YOU SAID IT. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THIS ENGAGEMENT AND THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL AND TO GET THAT FEEDBACK.AND WE WILL DEFINITELY KEEP YOU POSTED AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AS WE TALKED ABOUT, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST START OF OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH.
CPA HAS SOME PLANS THAT WE WILL BE ADVERTISING SHORTLY WHEN WE WILL HAVE AN OPEN PUBLIC FORUM TYPE OF MEETING AS WELL AS THEY HAVE. THEY WILL BE DOING AN ONLINE COMMUNITY SURVEY AS WELL, TOO.
I BELIEVE THERE'S A CURRENT COMMUNITY SURVEY NOW.
YES. SO SO YEAH, SO THE THE TIMING OF THAT IS, IS INTENDED FOR OUR OUR TO COME A LITTLE BIT LATER BECAUSE THIS COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT'S GOING ON NOW IS ALL ALL INCLUSIVE.
IT'S SOMETHING THE CITY DOES EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS ANYWAYS AND IT INCLUDES A LOT OF THINGS.
YES, THERE'S PARKS AND RECREATION ELEMENTS IN THE SURVEY, BUT THERE'S ALSO SAFETY.
THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S I MEAN, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THERE'S EVERYTHING TOGETHER AS A CITY.
SO, CHRISTINE, AM I UNLIKE THE MASTER PLAN THAT WE WERE DOING, THAT SINCE THIS IS GOING TO BE DESIGNED OR THE INTENT RIGHT NOW IS MORE OF A COMMUNITY PARK, THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO ENGAGE THE ANY OF THE LEAGUES OR ANYTHING AND THEIR INPUT IN WHAT THEY THINK.
SO THE PROCESS THAT I JUST ROLLED OUT, OF COURSE OUR LEAGUES WILL KNOW WHEN THE THE PUBLIC IN-PERSON MEETING IS AND THEY'LL GET THE LINKS TO OUR COMMUNITY SURVEYS AND SO FORTH. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE WON'T BE A SPECIFIC ONE FOR THEM.
THEY NEED TO ATTEND THE COMMUNITY ONES, CORRECT? OKAY. CORRECT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
BUT THAT'S THE END OF I GUESS MY COMMENTS IS I WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS ALL AND MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF AS WE GO THROUGH AND TO CONTINUE TO HAVE DIALOG AND FEEDBACK WITH US. IT'S VERY MUCH IMPORTANT TO US.
TAKE US HOME. SO MOVED SECOND.
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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANKS, EVERYONE.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.