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>> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, MARCH 15, 23 AT 6:00 P.M. TO ORDER.
PLEASE ARISE FOR THE PLUNGE. >> PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE U.S. OF AMERICA ONE NATION, UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> BEFORE WE DO ROCO COMMISSIONER IS IN HERE A FEW MINUTES AGO HE IS A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER SO HE WILL NOT BE JOINING US TONIGHT. SO ROLL CALL.
[4A. Terramar Park Parking Lot]
>> WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS START WITH THE PARK PARKING LOT
PRESENTATION. >> GOOD EVENING.
SENIOR DIRECTOR OF PARKS OPERATION.
>> ALEXANDER, CITY ENGINEER AND TEMPORARY PARADE CHAUFFEUR.
>> SO AS YOU KNOW DURING THIS PAST SESSION WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATION, TO TAKE A LOOK AT IS SOME POTENTIAL PARKING LOT EXPANSIONS FOR THE PARK.SO TONIGHT WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT INCLUDES OBVIOUSLY THE LOCATION OF THE PROJECT, THE BACKGROUND AND NEED FOR THE PROJECT, SOME OBSERVATIONS, SOME OPTIONS FOR US TO DISCUSS TONIGHT AS WELL AS SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS.
SO AS YOU KNOW THE PARK SERVES OUR COMMUNITY AND HAS A VARIETY OF AMENITIES THERE ARE FOUR MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS, TWO OF THOSE WERE RECENTLY DONE TO BE EXPANDED TO FULL REGULATION SIZE. OUR PICKLE BALL COURTS, ALSO RECENTLY EXPANDED FROM FOUR TO NUMB SIX COURTS.
WE HAVE SOME EXISTING PARKING AREAS THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS OF 283 SPACES IS WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY THIS INCLUDES 18 SPACES THAT WE JUST RENOVATED THE PARKING LOT IN THAT AREA.
PICNIC AND PAVILION AREAS AND A COUPLE PLAYGROUNDS AT THE SPARK AS YOU KNOW THERE HAS BEEN CONCERN IN REGARD TO PARKING ADJACENT TO THE PARK. MOST SEEN AS PARKING NEW THE BASKETBALL COURT AREA TOWARD THAT END OF THE PARK FROM TOWARD THAT END OF THE PARK FROM FEBRUARY 1, MARCH 17 DOING SOME OBSERVATIONS IN REGARDS TO THE DIFFERENT DAYS AND HOW MANY CARS ARE PARKED WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THIS KIND OF IS ONE OF OUR PEAK SEASONS. TRAVEL SOCCER, BOTH RECREATIONAL BASEBALL AS WELL AS TRAVEL BASEBALL DURING THAT TIMEFRAME THERE WAS 11 DAYS THAT STAFF OBSERVED NO CARS PARKED THERE WAS ONE DAY WE HAD A CROWD OF CARS, THAT WAS DUE TO A SPECIAL EVENT AT THE PAVILION.
THE REMAINING DAYS THE CARS RANGE FROM 2-17, MOST FREQUENTLY ABOUT EIGHT CARS THERE.
>> CITY STAFF AND OUR CONSULTANTS ANALYZED TO FIND OUT WHERE WE COULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING THIS IS THE ONE AREA THAT WE FOUND ON THE TOP YOU SEE THE NEW MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS CONSTRUCTED TO THE LEFT IS WHERE THE ADDITIONAL 18 SPOTS WERE BUILT. IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN A LARGE PAVILION, SOME OTHER SMALL ONES IN THE TREES, A
PLAYGROUND AREA FOR KIDS. >> SOME CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT WHILE LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVES, ALSO LOOKING AT LIMITING HEADLIGHT GLARE, ALSO MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO THE
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EXISTING TREES, MAXIMIZE THE POTENTIAL TO ADD LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE NEW PARKING LOT. FIRST ALTERNATIVE THAT WE ANALYZED, 65 ADDITIONAL SPACES WITHIN THE PARK, TO ADD LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS WITHIN THE PERIMETER OF THE PARKING LOT BUT SOME SIGNIFICANT HEADLIGHT GLARE INTO THE EXISTING FIELDS. THE BOTTOM PARKING SPACES ARE FACING INTO THE NEW MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS.THREE TREE IMPACTS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REMOVED SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTS THE GREEN SPACE.
HERE IS THE RENDERING OF THAT ALTERNATIVE ONE LOOKING WEST THAT PAVILION THE TOP MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN IS WHERE THE LARGE PAVILION WAS THAT WE POINTED OUT IN THAT AERIAL.
ALTERNATIVE TO 44 ADDITIONAL SPACES IT LIMITS THE HEADLIGHT GLARE INTO THE FIELDS ONE MORE TREE IMPACT THAN THE PREVIOUS ALTERNATIVE, MAXIMIZE POTENTIAL TO ADD LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE ISLANDS. BUT THE REDUCTION OF THE IMPACT TO THE GREEN SPACE 17,000 SQUARE FEET PREVIOUS ONE 28,000, 11,000 SQUARE FEET LAST.ERE IS THE RENDERING THAT WE DEVELOPED YOU SEE HERE THERE IS MORE GREEN SPACE AROUND THAT LARGE PAVILION.
KIDS RUN AROUND, OTHER SPACE TO UTILIZE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS TO GO WITH ALTERNATIVE TWO BASED ON THE REDUCTION OF GREEN SPACE TAKEN UP RESERVES THE CHARM OF THE PART WE PROVIDE PARKING SPACES 44 THAT NEEDS THE CURRENT DAILY NEEDS. IT COSTS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THE ALTERNATIVE ONE. THIS IS HOW MUCH GREEN SPACE WOULD BE TAKEN ALTERNATIVE ONE ALMOST TAKES THAT WHOLE SECTION ALTERNATIVE TWO TAKES A LITTLE SLICE ON THE LEFT OF THE GREEN SPACE AREA.OW LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION OR ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> GREAT.
THIS IS GOOD. ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN YOU DID YOUR SURVEY YOU LUCKED ON HILLSBORO.
ALSO PEOPLE WHO PARK OFTEN LIKE THEY JUMPED THE CURB, UP ON THE GRASS WITHIN THE PARKING AREA. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR PROBABLY MORE WHO WERE NOT IN SPOTS THAN JUST IN HILLSBORO.
BUT I THINK ALTERNATIVE TWO PROBABLY WOULD SUFFICE.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR. MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH PALTERNATIVE ONE OR TWO THE FIELDS THAT THE CARS ARE FACING, ARE THOSE SOCCER LACROSSE WHAT ARE WE LOOKING
AT? >> IT IS MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS THAT WE PUT THE ARTIFICIAL TURF AND, A VARIETY OF SPORTS USING THOSE THERE COULD BE LACROSSE OR THERE COULD BE SOCCER.
>> OKAY TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE TAKING THE BALLS AND SHOOTING THEM AND ANNETTE THAT IS FACING CAR WINDSHIELDS.
>> CORRECT. >> DO WE SEE A PROBLEM WITH
THAT? >> ALTERNATIVE ONE, YES.
LTERNATIVE TWO DAYS TAKE UP A SMALLER SECTION OF THAT WHERE THE THREE OR FOUR CARS PARKED ALONG THAT WE COULD EITHER DO PEXTRA LANDSCAPING OR PROVIDE SOME TEMPORARY NETTING ONE
LACROSSE IS USING THOSE FIELDS. >> SIMILAR TO THAT.
>> AGAIN MY ONLY CONCERN, FOUR SPACES IN ALTERNATIVE TWO THAT WERE FACING THE SCHOOL. I HATE TO SEE SOMEONE TAKE A
LACROSSE SHOT. >> WE ALSO HAVE TRAILS EVEN ALONG THE WALKWAYS WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT UP TEMPORARY NETTING WHEN THAT SPORT IS TAKING PLACE ON THAT FIELD.
>> COMMISSIONER. >> SO I DO NOT WANT TO BE NEGATIVE ABOUT IT BUT I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, I HAVE WALKED THE PARK WHEN THE CARS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE A LOT OF TIMES THERE ARE CARS PARKED ON THE SWALE BECAUSE IT IS CONVENIENT.
THERE ARE TONS OF SPACES ALL OVER THE PLACE ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE ROTATED IN YOU MAKE IT TIME WHERE LET'S SAY BASKETBALL ON SATURDAY OR SUNDAY, 40 SPACES, 40 CARS, PEOPLE DO NOT
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WANT TO PARK BY THE BASEBALL FIELD SO THEY PARK ON THE SWALE. STILL SPOTS EMPTY.GRANTED WHEN BASEBALL HAD THEIR OPENING OR THE EASTER EGG HUNT, IT IS GOING TO BE PACKED TO BEGIN WITH.
THE OTHER PART IS, GROWING UP, LIVING THE LAST 27 YEARS ACROSS THE INTEGRITY OF THAT PARK AMINE WAS SOMEWAYS WHEN THE FIELDS WENT IN NOT THE TURF INITIALLY WHEN THEY CONVERTED THE SOFTBALL FIELD, THOSE LIVE OAKS THAT WERE REMOVED AGAIN CREATED A CHARACTER OF WHATEVER PARKLAND WAS.
NOW REMOVING FOUR OF THOSE CLIMAX OAKS, MEMORIAL BENCH.
>> LOCATED. >> THAT GRASSY AREA WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE USING THOSE PAVILIONS THEY USE THEM AND GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE ESPECIALLY THE FACT WE ARE HAVING MORE USAGE ON THOSE FIELDS, AND GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY VOLLEYBALL, KICKBALL WHATEVER THEY WANT.
SO AGAIN MY OPINION, SHARE. >> WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE
HERE?>> DO WE DO ENFORCEMENT ON THE PUPIL PARKING OUTSIDE
WHEN THERE ARE SPOTS AVAILABLE? >> HERE IS MY SUGGESTION.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE NURSERY OR THE CENTERLINE OF PROPERTY I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS THERE IS A POSSIBILITY I DO NOT KNOW, IF WE ARE GOING TO REGRADE IT, SOME WAY ESPECIALLY ALLEVIATING WHEN YOU HAVE MORE OF THAT USAGE ON THE BASEBALL FIELDS WHICH SEEMS TO ME THEY HAVE MORE USAGE THAN THE SOCCER FIELD AT THIS POINT. IT IS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH CENTERLINE ABOUT ACQUIRING THAT PROPERTY.
WHEN I TALK TO THEM, THEY ARE OPEN FOR OUR TENDER LIVES THAT WOULD NOT INVOLVE ANY EXCHANGE OF CASH.
MAY BE SOMETHING WE CAN SWAP. >> IT IS CURRENTLY FOR SALE FOR
4 MILLION. >> CONVERSATION WITH THEM, LOOKING TO HAVE THAT LAND MAY BE SWAP BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT LAND ON THE CORNER. WHICH I GUESS IS DESIGNATED AT THIS POINT AS A PARK. MAYBE THAT IS A SWAP OF LAND.
>> MY CONCERN IS THIS MAY BE A GOOD IDEA, I AGREE WITH BOB I DO NOT KNOW THAT IT ADDRESSES THE PROBLEM.
THE ONLY REASON WHY PEOPLE DO NOT PARK IS BECAUSE IT HAS A HARD CURB WITH THE SIDEWALK. GOING DOWN WHATEVER IT IS.
THEY WOULD BE PARKING ON THAT AS WELL.
EVEN IF WE PUT 100 MORE SPACES STILL PEOPLE PARKING ON THE STREET OR OFF THE STREET, FOR PEER CONVENIENCE PURPOSES.
ESPECIALLY IN BASKETBALL SEASON, THE PARKING LOT IS CROWDED. A TON OF CARS ON HILLSBORO.
YOU HAVE A TON OF CARS. UNLESS WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY WHETHER PUSHING A FENCE TO THE STREET LEVEL OR RAISING, PROBABLY NEED TO BE REDONE. I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE IS AWAY UNTIL YOU FIX THAT PROBLEM I DO NOT THINK YOU GET RID OF THE STREET PARKING. EVEN IF THERE ARE EMPTY SPOTS INSIDE. I AM NOT SAYING IT IS ONE OR THE OTHER BUT FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION TO STOP PEOPLE FROM PARKING BECAUSE IT PROBABLY IS THE ONLY PARK IN THE CITY THAT HAS THIS ISSUE WHERE NOT ONLY IS THERE IMMEDIATE ACCESS FROM THE STREET BUT NO CURB, NO SIDEWALK NOTHING THAT IS PREVENTING SOMEONE FROM POPPING UP THERE.
IF WE HAD THIS ISSUE AT PINE TRAILS, PEOPLE DOING THE SAME
THING THERE. >> I DO NOT DISAGREE.
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PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN USED TO THE FACT.THERE IS NO PARKING. ONCE PEOPLE SHUFFLE OUT THERE IS POTENTIALLY SOME SPOTS THAT OPEN PEOPLE TO TAKE THE EASY ROUTE AND PARK OVER. REALLY NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE WE COULD VERY EASILY ADD A CURB OR PUT PARKING SIGNS THAT SAY DO NOT PARK. TO ME THIS IS A SAFETY THING.
HAVING PEOPLE PARK ON HILLSBORO IS NOT GOOD.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND NOW THAT WE MADE THOSE FIELDS REGULATION THERE IS GOING TO BE MUCH GREATER USAGE THAN THERE WAS. MORE OF A NEED FOR PARKING THAN THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY. NOW USED ALL THE TIME FOR GAMES I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH THE TREES AND ALL THAT STUFF FOR ME IT COMES DOWN TO SAFETY WE HAVE TO PROVIDE PARKING FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO.
TO THE VICE MAYOR! ONCE WE DO PROVIDE ENOUGH PARKING, WE NEED TO DETER PEOPLE FROM ARKING.
WHATEVER IT IS, THAT WE HAVE BUT WE DO NEED TO DO THAT TO THE COMMISSIONERS POINT, MAYBE WE DO NOT NEED TO BUY THAT LAND BUT CERTAINLY USE THAT THEN WE CAN MAKE MORE OF A PARK AND GET RID OF THE PARKING AND PARK OVER BY THE CENTERLINE PROPERTY. RIGHT NOW 26, 28 ACRES.
FOR SALE FOR 4 MILLION NOBODY WANTS IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL OF THOSE POWERLINES OVER THERE DIFFICULT TO SELL.
BUT I THINK IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY SOMEHOW TRADE OR GET SOME OF THAT LAND WHERE WE COULD ADD SOME PARKING MAYBE LONG-TERM OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD NOT DO IT NEXT YEAR MAY BE THE YEAR AFTER.
THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, A LONG-TERM THOUGHT PROCESS.
SHORT-TERM WE NEED PARKING. DO WE ADD THIS PARKING OR INVESTIGATE SOME OF THE STUFF THAT THE COMMISSIONER WAS TALKING ABOUT. AN OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY GARNER SOME OF THAT LAND I DID GET A CALL TODAY FROM A RESIDENT. IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME.
>> THE ALTERNATIVE DO WE HAVE AN ASSESSMENT OF THE SIZE OF THE FIELDS AND PARK SPACE IN COMPARISON TO THE PARKING SPOTS. WHETHER UNDER OR OVER IT MAY BE NEEDED. MAYBE IT IS NOT NEEDED.
>> A NIGHTMARE. >> IN REGARDS TO THE MATRIX OF A NUMBER OF FIELDS, IT IS KIND OF LIKE THE CONVERSATION HAS ALREADY EVOLVED. THAT IS WHERE YOU GET INTO THIS PARKING CONCERN BECAUSE TEAMS PRACTICING AT 6:00 OTHER TEAMS 7:30 THE TEAM THAT WAS THERE IS STILL THERE NOW TO PEOPLE TRYING TO GET IN AT 7:30 I THINK IT WAS THE COMMISSIONER WHO TALKED ABOUT CONVENIENCE. BY THAT FIRST PARKING LOT AREA.
BECAUSE MAYBE A LOT OF THE PRIMARY USE WOULD BE THE
MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS. >> PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO WALK.
>> ONE THING IS WE ARE PUTTING THAT PARKING AREA FOR THE ADDITIONAL PARKING CLOSE TO THOSE ACTIVE AMENITIES THAT WE
ARE SEEING. >> A WAY TO PRESERVE THE LIVE
OAK TREES. >> I KNOW THEY ARE GORGEOUS.
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>> I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT REPLANTING.
ALLOW US TO PUT PLANTS AND NEW SPECIES TO TRY TO KEEP SOME OF
THE LANDSCAPING.>> UNTIL WE PUT WEATHER OFFENSE OR A HARD CURB OR SOMETHING I DO NOT THINK SIGNS ALONE ARE GOING TO DO IT STILL PEOPLE PARKING ON HILLSBORO.
>> PRESERVING THE LARGEST OAK TREE.
THE OTHERS CAN BE RELOCATED. >> I DID NOT SAY YOU HAD ANY DUMB QUESTIONS AT LEAST NOT PUBLICLY.
>> I WANT TO REVISIT WITH THE COMMISSIONER SAID, I TOO WOULD LIKE TO PRESERVE THE GREEN SPACE IF POSSIBLE.
ALTERNATIVES LIKE THAT OTHER PROPERTY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT I THINK THAT SHOULD BE EXPLORED BEFORE WE MAKE ANY DECISIONS ON DOING THE PARKING LOT CHANGING THE DYNAMIC OF WHAT THE PARK IS. THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU FOR ME I WOULD CERTAINLY WORTH INVESTIGATING. OPTION TWO WORKS GOOD TO ME I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO INVESTIGATE TO
SEE IF THERE IS AN OPTION. >> CERTAINLY CANNOT HURT.
>> HE IS INTERESTED. IN HAVING A CONVERSATION.
>>. >> DO YOU HAVE A MAP OF TERRAMAR YOU COULD PULL UP AN AREA WHEN YOU PULL IN.
>> NOW WE ARE REALLY CHANGING GEARS.
>> 20 PULL INTO THE PARK, THAT WATERWAY.
ANYWAY RATHER THAN TAKING THE GREEN SPACE TO USE THAT WATERWAY IN FRONT FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING?
>> I AM KIND OF LOOKING AT RON. >> I THINK FOR NOW INSTEAD OF HAVING THIS DISCUSSION LET'S HAVE THE DISCUSSION WITH RON LET'S CIRCLE BACK ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT LATER.
INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT SOLUTION THAT WOULD GIVE US PLENTY OF PARKING ADDITIONAL SPACE TO POTENTIALLY DO SOMETHING DOWN THE LINE LET'S HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. IF THEY DO NOT TURN UP ANYTHING POSITIVE WE CAN CIRCLE BACK AROUND IS THAT GOOD?
>> WORKS FOR ME. >> I AM GOOD WITH THAT.
>> FOR DRAINAGE PURPOSES. >> ALL RIGHT.> THANK YOU.
>> SORRY. >> IT IS BOB'S FAULT BY THE
[4B. Hillsboro Boulevard Lighting Analysis]
WAY. GOOD JOB COMMISSIONER.NOW THE HILLSBORO BOULEVARD LIGHTING ANALYSIS.
THE SHOFAR AGAIN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
CITY ENGINEER. TALK ABOUT THE DECORATIVE ROADWAY LIGHTING. WE PRESENTED THIS A WHILE BACK TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY LOOKING AT HILLSBORO BOULEVARD FROM PARKLAND BAY TO UNIVERSITY DRIVE TO ADD LIGHTING.
TYPICAL SECTION 2 LANE UNDIVIDED.
TYPICAL SECTION 2, UNIVERSITY DRIVE FOUR LANES.
ABOUT 1.1 MILES AS WELL. WE LOOKED AT LIGHTING THIS BUT TWO COMMISSION DIRECTION WE LOOKED AT DECORATIVE LIGHTING THIS IS ANALYSIS OF DECORATIVE LIGHTING COMPARED WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT AND OUR VENDOR. THE FIELD THAT YOU SEE WHEN DRIVING DOWN HILLSBORO WILL HAVE DECORATIVE LIGHTING.
DECORATIVE DESIGN, STAGGERED SO THEY WILL NOT BE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER. YOU MEET THE COMPANY STANDARDS FOR THE LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS FOR LIGHTING THE ROADWAY.
HERE IS SOME EXISTING DECORATIVE POLES IN WEST PALM BEACH THAT WE TOOK PICTURES OF. SEE HOW THEY LOOK CLOSE UP DOWN
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THE ROADWAY TO SEE A FEELING OF DRIVING IT.THEY MEET THE STANDARDS. NIGHTTIME VIDEO AS WELL.
THE PRIVATE COMPANY WAS ELECTRIC, CONTRACTS AND DATA FROM SOME OF THEIR EXISTING CONTRACTS.
DISCUSSIONS WHO CURRENTLY HAS A CONTRACT.
WHICH IS MAINTENANCE. OR SBARRO WORKS WITH MANY VENDORS DIFFERENT STYLES OF THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE IS A CURRENT LIGHT THAT THEY INSTALLED. DIFFERENT VENDOR HEADS THAT YOU CAN CHOOSE FROM SOME DIFFERENT DECORATIVE STYLES THE BOTTOM ONES ARE DECORATIVE CONCRETE POLES, USED MAINLY BY HORSEPOWER. 12 DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF COLORS TO CHOOSE FROM. WE RAN A COST COMPARISON, CAPITAL UP FRONT COST TO UNIVERSITY DRIVE 300,000 UPFRONT CAPITAL COSTS, $81,900 ANNUAL MAINTENANCE COSTS, 6800.
F WE WERE TO GO WITH THE VENDOR HORSEPOWER WE CHOSE THE DECORATIVE POLE THAT WAS SIMILAR IN DESIGN TO FPL, INCLUDES ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, INSULATION FROM BEGINNING TO END. CAPITAL COST AT COMPLETION, TWO MILES WOULD BE $2,054,000. MAINTENANCE COST $22,500.
THE SUMMARY CALCULATED CAPITAL COSTS, WE MET WITH HORSEPOWER IN THE OFFICE AND HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH FPL, RAN THE GENERATOR TOOL FOR US. WORKED WITH US TO PROVIDE THE MOST UP TO DATE COSTS FOR THEIR DECORATIVE LIGHTING.
WE BROKE IT DOWN TO MONTHLY COSTS.
THAT IS HOW WE PAY OUR FPL BILLS MONTHLY.
NET PRESENT VALUE IF WE WERE TO UTILIZE, IF WE WERE TO PUT OUR MONEY INTO ZERO PERCENT INTEREST, MONTHLY COST WOULD BECOME HIGHER AT THE 29.5 YEAR MARK.
ONE PERCENT INTEREST, 35 YEAR TERM.
TWO PERCENT INTEREST, 44 YEAR TERM FPL WOULD BE MORE COSTLY THAN HORSEPOWER. WE RAN PROS AND CONS FPL HAS A QUICK RESPONSE TIME FOR AN ISSUE REDUCED CAPITAL COST, AND ANOTHER LIGHTING PROJECT WITHIN THE CITY NO CAPITAL COST FOR A REPLACEMENT OF POLES. REPAIR, CRASH, FALL DOWN ETC.
SOME PROS FOR HORSEPOWER WE OWN THE LIGHTING.
EVERYTHING FROM END TO END. THEY DO HAVE A ONE YEAR WARRANTY, 50-50 REPLACEMENT POLE COST SPLIT WITH HORSEPOWER. THERE IS FLEXIBILITY WITH CAPITAL PROJECTS. WITH DESIGN ETC. THERE IS POTENTIAL GRANTS THAT WE COULD LOOK AFTER FOR INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS THEY USED A GRANT TO PROVIDE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE WORK FOR THE LIGHTING IN THE CITY.
SOME CONS WITH FPL 1ST TO 10 YEAR CONTRACT THAT COULD BE RENEWED EVERY COUPLE YEARS. POTENTIAL INCREASE OF MAINTENANCE COSTS DOWN THE ROAD, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LEGISLATOR. LIMITED OPTIONS FOR DECORATIVE LIGHTING, THE LENGTH OF TIME IS REDUCED WITH ANOTHER CON, REPLACEMENT POLE COST THE CITY DOES HAVE TO PAY.
SLOWER RESPONSE TIME DEPENDING ON THEIR AVAILABILITY AND WORKLOAD UP FRONT CAPITAL COSTS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SOME QUESTIONS, FEEDBACK.
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>> GREAT. EXCELLENT PRESENTATION COMMISSIONER. VICE MAYOR.
I LIKE THE LOOK OF THE POLLS BETTER THAN THE OTHER, WHAT IS THE LIFESPAN. IF UNDER YOUR SCENARIOS WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE THE SCENARIO IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE OTHER UNTIL 30 YEARS OR LATER WHAT IS THE
LIFESPAN. >> THE LIFESPAN OF THE POLLS
ARE 40 YEARS. >> OUT OF ALL OF THE SCENARIOS BEFORE IF WE DID ONE PERCENT INTEREST BEFORE THEY START TO
GET TO THAT RANGE. >> COMMISSIONER CUTLER.
>> THANK YOU. GREAT PRESENTATION CAN YOU PULL THE MAP BACK UP OF THE HILLSBORO ROAD WIWAY.
YOU ARE AT TWO LANES ALL THE WAY TO THE END.
SO WHERE ARE THE LIGHTS PROPOSED TO BE PUT IN.
DOES THAT FROM NOB HILL WEST PRESENT AN ISSUE IF ULTIMATELY WE FINALLY HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY THROUGH HENDRIX.
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TWO GIVE UP LIGHTS.>> THIS FIRST SECTION IT IS VERY WEST END. THE LIGHTS WILL BE ON THE NORTH SIDE WHICH MEETS THE LIGHTING CRITERIA.
IF WE WERE TO CONNECT TO HENDRIX WE WILL NOT HAVE TWO WRAP UP ANY LIGHTING. MAY HAVE TO MODIFY JUST A FEW POLES DEPENDING ON THE INTERSECTION DESIGN.
BETWEEN NOB HILL AND UNIVERSITY DRIVE IT IS THE FOURLANE SECTION WHERE YOU WILL HAVE LIGHTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE
ROADWAY. >> FOCUSING ON THE TWO LANE ONE ULTIMATELY IF YOU WERE GOING TO PROVIDE ACCESS, AGAIN I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDIES HOLD.
THAT IS COMING FROM THE WEST END MOVING EAST BUT PLENTY OF ROOM FOR EXPANSION TO OTHER LANES TO GIVE US MORE TRAFFIC ACCESS. SO MY CONCERN IS IF YOU'RE PUTTING LIGHTING IN, ULTIMATELY YOU EXPAND THE ROAD YOU'RE GOING TO BE CHANGING THE LIGHTING ARE MOVING LIGHTING.
IS THAT AN EXPENSE WE ARE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH DOWN THE
ROAD. >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
THE MAJORITY IS BUILT OUT OF THE WEST YOU WOULD NOT GET AN EXPANSION TOWARDS THE WEST OF THE ROADWAY.
AT THE INTERSECTION OF UNIVERSITY OF HILLSBOROUGH.
YOU MAY BE MOVING AROUND A FEW HTS.
>> IT IS A DEAD END THERE. >> AGAIN.
A BIG STRETCH. IF YOU ARE GOING TO SAY THAT THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE TWO LANES FOREVER I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT ROAD THAT BIG EXPANSE, WE PUT A BUNCH OF TREES LIKE WE DID OUT HERE.
MAKE THAT AREA LOOK LIKE PARKLAND.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE. I THINK THAT WOULD ADD TO THAT
AREA. >> THAT IS A CONVERSATION WE COULD HAVE WITH THE COUNTY. POTENTIALLY OPERATE.
IN THE EVENT YOU WOULD EVER NEED TO EXPAND.
I DO NOT THINK YOU WOULD EVER NEED TO EXPAND.
>> THAT MAY SOLVE MORE THAN ONE PROBLEM.
THEY HAVE SHOWN THE CANOPY TREES.
SOME PRETTY UGLY CELL TOWERS THAT WE COULD COVER UP WITH SOME TREES IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
>> WITH ALL OF THOSE TREES ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT WHOLE AREA IS GOING TO BE BEAUTIFIED. PUT IN DECORATIVE LIGHTING.
>> A CONVERSATION WE COULD HAVE.
>> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. WITH THIS LIGHTING VERSUS REGULAR LIGHTING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN POTENTIAL HURRICANE DAMAGE? OR ARE THEY ALL RATED THE SAME
WAY? >> THAT WOULD BE BASED ON THE DESIGN. TO MEET THE DESIGN CRITERIA FOR COUNTY HURRICANE LOADING. IT WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE DESIGN CRITERIA. GO THROUGH THE REVIEW AS WELL.
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>> DOES ONE LIGHT, ONLY HAS A RATING OF 140 MILES N HOUR,
THE OTHER COMPANY ¦ >> ALL MINIMAL.
>> MAXIMUM IN THE CASE WE GET ¦
>> MINIMUM 160 MILES PER HOUR. >> CLOSE TO 170.
>> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
IF YOU HAVE HURRICANE, EITHER GOING TO INSURANCE OR HAVE TO
FIND THE CAPITAL COSTS. >> FPL, REPLACE IT ON THEIR OWN
AND YOU DO NOT HAVE A COST. >> THE OTHER PART IS, THIS IS KIND OF STRATEGICALLY THINKING IF YOU GO FORWARD WITH THIS WHATEVER WE DECIDE PUT IN THE DECORATIVE LIGHTING, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS IF WE DO IT ON THE SECTION UNIVERSITY IS GOING TO WANTED, SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO WANTED HOW WE LOOKED AT IN TOTALITY, ECONOMIES OF SCALE
WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE. >> 10ANOTHER BONUS.
IF WE USED A PRIVATE VENDOR YOU WILL GET A LITTLE BIT MORE BUT
NOT MUCH. >> ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IS WE HAVE NOT PLUGGED IN THESE DECORATIVE LIGHTS INTO THE WHOLE COST SCENARIOS THAT WE WILL BE RUNNING FOR YOU.
THAT WILL HAVE ME CONCERNED OBVIOUSLY THE DECORATIVE LIGHTS
DO COST MORE. >> BUT THEY LOOK BETTER.
>> THAT IS A VERY GOOD POINT TALKING ABOUT NOT ONLY NOT PUTTING ANY MORE CONCRETE UGLY POLLS BUT TALKING ABOUT
EVENTUALLY REPLACING. >> STRATEGICALLY IF WE HAD IT AND SAID, ONCE YOU PUT IT IN HERE, HOW COME IT IS NOT IN MY
BACKYARD. >> YOU DO NOT GET THAT MUCH.
FROM AN INSTALLATION STANDPOINT.
YOU WILL NOT GET MUCH OF A DISCOUNT.
>> LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN ADJUST SOME OF THOSE RATES.
>> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE IMPACTS TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE GOING TO COME IN AT SOME POINT IN TIME. PART OF THE IMPACT FEES THAT MIGHT BE GENERATED AS A RESULT THAT COULD BE USED FOR THAT PHASE IN PROJECT. SOMETHING WE COULD CONTEMPLATE
AS WELL. >> GETTING WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS CONTRIBUTING TO COSTS ASSOCIATED ANY IDEA WHAT THE LIGHTING IS GOING TO BE ON THE ROAD PROJECT IS THERE A WAY TO STEER IT TOWARD THESE
DECORATIVE LIGHTING? >> THEY ALREADY STARTED TO RELOCATE LIGHTS. STARTING THIS SUMMER.
WE LOCARELOCATED SOME. A FEW MONTHS LEFT TO COMPLETE
THE PROJECT. >> ALREADY OVER BUDGET ON THAT PROJECT. SOMETHING WE WOULD DO AT THE
PHASED IN APPROACH. >> EVERY DEVELOPER HAS PAID INTO THE LEADING THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DONE.
>> THE ROUNDABOUTS ARE DECORATIVE LIGHTING.
>> WHAT YOU NEED FROM US ON THIS NANCY?
>> DID THE STAFF HAVE RECOMMENDATION?
>> I DO. >> THEY NEED TO KNOW.
THEY ARE HOLDING UP A PROJECT RIGHT NOW.
>> THIS IS REALLY FOR US. >> MY VIEW HAS BEEN CONSISTENT.
I HATE THE CONCRETE POLES. I FEEL TERRIBLE FOR THE
RESIDENTS WHO ARE ON HILLSBORO. >> IT TAKES 30 OR 40 YEARS
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BEFORE IT EVEN GETS EVEN. >> THEY WILL REPLACE THEM, THEY LOOK THE BEST OUT OF THE THREE OPTIONS THAT WE SAW.
I AM ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT.>> YEAH I AGREE WITH THAT.
ONE QUESTION RELATIVE TO THESE DECORATIVE THINGS DO THEY PROVIDE THE SAME SHIELDING THAT SOME OF THOSE OTHERS DO.
>> DIFFERENT COLORED BALLS TOO. >> 3000 LIGHTS, SO IT IS NOT BLUE OR BRIGHT. THE LIGHT SHINES DOWN SO IT WILL NOT SHINE ALL THE WAY AROUND.
>> THIS IS MEANT FOR WHAT WE ARE USING.
>> THANK YOU. >> YOU HAVE YOUR DIRECTION.
>> THANK YOU GUYS. >> THAT IS IT
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