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WOULD LIKE TO CALL CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP AT 5:30 TO
PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE. >> SAYING PLEDGE.
>> ROLL CALL. >> COMMISSIONER ISRAEL.
>> VICE MAYOR CUT CUTLER. >> COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN?
[4A. Advisory Board Appointments Discussion]
>> HERE. >> ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTMENTS
SO WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU LISTING OF THE THREE ADVISORY BOARDS, FIRST PLANNING AND ZONING.
SECOND CAB AND THIRD ONE BEING PARKS AND RECS.
WHAT WE WOULD ASK YOU DO IS TAKE A LOOK AT THE REQUESTED APPLICANT ON THE LIST. BACKGROUND INFORMATION PROVIDED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE. ONES IN YELLOW ARE ARE MAINING.
ONES IN WHITE AND AN X, CURRENTLY A MEMBER.
IF THEY DON'T GET CHOSEN FOR THIS BOARD THEY MAY HAVE A SECOND CHOICE. YOU MAY CONSIDER THEM FOR THE NEXT BOARD AND MOVING ON WITH EACH BOARD.
I GUESS I'LL OPEN IT UP TO WHOEVER WANTS TO DISCUSS PNZ REMAINING SEATS. TWO AT-LARGE TWO ALTERNATES.
ALTERNATES WILL HAVE FIRST AND SECOND ALTERNATE.
COMMISSIONER ISRAEL ALEX. VICE MAYOR CUTLER TONY.
COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN MURRAY. I HAVE NATHANIAN.
COMMISSIONER BRIER HAS TODD ROGERS.
THERE IS OBVIOUSLY THE FIVE. THEN WE HAVE WHO ARE CURRENTLY ON JOEL KAPLAN CURRENTLY ON PLANNING AND ZONING.
THEN ASHLEY AND DEREK ARE ALTERNATES, CORRECT? OBVIOUSLY JOEL HAS BEEN ON THE BOARD QUITE SOME TIME.
YOU KNOW, DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM KEEPING JOEL?
>> HONESESTLY I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE LAST BOARD.
CURRENTLY ON THE BOARD. >> WE WOULD HAVE TO MOVE
SOMEONE. >> MOVE SOMEONE FROM THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE AND I GUESS THREE OF THOSE ON HERE.
THEN WOULD NEED TO FIND A FOURTH.
>> WE WOULD NEED ONE MORE ALTERNATE, CORRECT.
>> I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT AT ALL.
I THOUGHT OUR BOARD LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAS BEEN AMAZING.
>> DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A NOMINATION.
>> IT IS NOT TO BE VOTED ON JUST OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
>> OKAY. >> ONLY THING THAT I WILL SHARE UM, IN THE MAKE UP OF THESE BOARDS, TRADITIONALLY, UM WE HAVE HAD A BALANCE OF KIND OF MEN AND WOMEN.
FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, EXCEPT ASHLEY, PNZ HAD BEEN A MEN-ONLY BOARD NOT TO SAY IT WAS FABULOUS.
I LIKE THE WOMEN'S POINT OF VIEW.
UM, ASHLEY BRINGS A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW NO OFFENSE THAN DEREK, BUT A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW THAN DEREK DOES.
SOME OF THE BOARDS OBVIOUSLY COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD MIX OF MEN AND WOMEN PARK AND REC HAS A MIX OF MEN AND WOMEN.
KIND OF ADDS THAT DIFFERENT LENS.
LOOKING THROUGH A DIFFERENT THING.
I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO KEEP THAT BALANCE AS BEST AS WE CAN TO SUPPORT THAT MOVING FORWARD. LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS,
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SIMEON BRIER, JODIE DAVIDSON. I DIDN'T SEE HER NAME AS AN APPLICANT. SHE HAS CERTAINLY CREDIBILITY ON ANY TYPE OF BOARD. VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.I DON'T KNOW WHAT DETERRED HER FROM NOT APPLYING, REAPPLYING.
I POINT THAT OUT. >> I THINK WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT MAKING A CONCERTED EFFORT TO HAVE ALTERNATES MOVE UP.
>> RIGHT. >> FEW YEARS AGO, WE HAD THAT, I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT AN ISSUE. WE PASSED SOMEONE UP.
LOOK, THAT IS TRUE. AS AN ALTERNATE, YOU ARE PUTTING
IN YOUR HARD WORK AND TIME. >> PLUS YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE.
YOU HAVE SAT THROUGH THINGS, YOU HAVE SEEN HOW THINGS WORK.
THAT ONLY LENDS ITSELF TO A MORE EDUCATED BOARD.
>> RIGHT. >> I AGREE WITH ALL THOSE STATEMENTS. ONE ALTERNATE DIRECT APPOINTEE.
>> ASHLEY AND DEREK WERE THE ALTERNATES.
>> SO THE OTHER THING WE HAVE IT IS A BLESSING AND A CURSE.
WE HAVE SPOKEN TO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
WE HAVE A BLESS OF HAVING VERY, VERIAL LEAPTED PEOPLE.
I VIEW PEOPLE ON THIS LIST I THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL ESPECIALLY GIVEN WE HAVE LOST IN MY VIEW VERY STRONG OPINIONATED MEMBER OF THE BOARD IN DAVID OFFSTEEN.
COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN SAID IN TERMS OF GENDER AND POINT OF VIEW, DIVERSITY IN TERMS OF BACKGROUND AND EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE CONTRACTORS ON HERE.
WE HAVE THE DIRECTOR OF THE SAW GRASS MILLS MALL AND OTHER FOLKS EXTREMELY TALENTED. I THINK WE WOULD BE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THEIR SERVICES LET ALONE FOR FREE ON PLANNING AND ZONING. I GET IT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR EVERYONE WE SHOULD KEEP THAT IN MIND ONE OR MORE OPEN POSITIONS. WE HAVE VERY TALENTED PEOPLE THAT APPLIED. SOME OF THEM, THIS IS THEIR FIRST TIME, OTHERS THIS IS SECOND OR THIRD TIME APPLYING.
WE SHOULD JUST TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
>> OKAY. JOOK DO WE WANT TO MOVE ON TO
THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD? >> I THINK WE NEED TO TIE DOWN ONE MORE MEMBER. I KIND OF HEAR THAT WE HAVE AGAIN, WE'LL GO TO VOTE. JOEL AS AN AT-LARGE AND POTENTIALLY ASHLEY AT-LARGE AND DEREK AS FIRST ALTERNATE.
MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON A SECOND
ALTERNATE. >> I HAVE TWO PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR THAT JUMP OUT TO ME ON THE ALTERNATES.
ROB HAS A BACKGROUND AS GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
LIVES IN PARKLAND. DAVID IS IN MY MIND, DAVID BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY AND WORKING WITH US ON THE ROUND ABOUT AND GOLF. DAVID HAS A BACKGROUND WELL SUITED FOR THIS ROLE. OBVIOUSLY PLENTY OF OTHER
TALENTED PEOPLE ON THIS LIST. >> I CONCUR WITH BOTH OF THOSE PICKS. ROBERT, I KNOW ALREADY FILED TO RUN AS COMMISSIONER. I THINK EXTRA EXPERIENCE TO HELP HIM IN HIS DESIRE TO BE A COMMISSIONER ONE DAY.
I THINK BEING ON PLANNING AND ZONING WOULD BE OFFICIAL.
ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO VOLUNTEER. EVERYONE WHO HAS PUT IN AN APPLICATION AND WANTING TO PEP THE CITY IN ANY FORM OR FASHION HONORABLE AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
SO YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE ONLY HAVE AS MANY SPOTS AS WE HAVE.
SO FOR ME, I WOULD AGREE WITH SIMEON.
>> MY ONLY COMMENT TO THAT IS THIS IS THE HARDEST THING WE DO.
WE ARE SAYING NO. THIS IS ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS I HAVE TO DO AGAIN WE ARE SAYING NO TO SOMEBODY.
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I SAT HERE AND VOTED SOMEBODY DOWN.THAT PERSON KEEPS REMINDING ME OF THAT.
[LAUGHTER]. IT IS A TOUGH THING.
I ONLY GO BACK TO HISTORICALLY ONLY TWO WOMEN ON PLANNING AND ZONING. ONLY A SELECTION.
>> LINDSEY AND WHITNEY AND ASHLEY.
NOW WHITNEY GOING FOR CIVIL ENGINEERING DEGREE.
SHE WORKED AS A PLUMBER IN A PLUMBING BUSINESS.
SHE HAS EXPERIENCE AS WELL AS EVERYBODY ELSE.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THAT UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE THAT ALLOWS THAT BOARD TO LOOK THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS.
I REMEMBER WHEN LYNNE WAS ON THE BOARD.
I SERVED WITH HER. SHE BROUGHT A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. THAT IS JUST MY RESPONSE AS I SAID WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TURN A BUNCH OF THESE PEOPLE
DOWN. >> ALSO SOME OF THEM DID PUT DAVID GOT PUT PARKS AND REC. WHITNEY PUT PARKS AND REC.
WE ARE GOING TO NEED. >> YOU WILL NEED THOSE
ADDITIONAL PEOPLE. >> THERE ARE ALTERNATE
OPPORTUNITY >> RIGHT I AM LOOKING AT THE
MAKE UP OF THE BOARD. >> I GET WHAT COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN SAID. THERE ARE SIX CANDIDATES WHO
WOULD BE NO BRAINER PICKS. >> THEY ALL WOULD BE NO BRAINERS. IT IS A DIFFICULT TASK AND BALANCE LONGEVITY ON THE BOARD WITH GETTING IN FRESH BLOOD AND FRESH PERSPECTIVE WHICH I THINK IS THE CHALLENGE.
>> IF WE STAY WITH THE STATUS QUO WE HAVE ONE SPOT LEFT.
>> CORRECT. >> RIGHT NOW LOOKING AT DAVID GOT, ROBERT BRENNAN, LINDSEY OR WHITNEY.
>> I HAVEN'T -- HAVE, I KNOW FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE SERVING ON THE BOARD THEY PUT DOWN PNZ. ANY DISCUSSION THAT DIFFERS SOMEONE THAT SERVED ON PNZ? WILLING TO SERVE ON ANOTHER
BOARD NOW. >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
>> IN TERMS OF SOMEBODY AT-LARGE OR ALTERNATE WILLING TO SERVE ON
A DIFFERENT BOARD? >> I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE SHUFFLE ING AT LEAST OUR CURRENT MEMBERS.
TO ME, THERE IS ONE SPOT. AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED.
I DON'T SEE ANY REASON NOT KEEPING EVERYONE THAT HAS BEEN SERVING AND ADDING THE ONE LAST PERSON.
>> YEAH. BOB IS RIGHT, THIS IS SO TOUGH.
>> IN REGARDS TO WHAT BOB SAID. I KNEW LYNNE MYSELF.
I AGREE THAT PERSPECTIVE WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT TO REALLY ROUNDING OUT THE BOARD. YOU HAVE ON THE THREE WOMEN
SELECTIONS, IS THERE ONE? >> THERE ARE TWO.
>> LINDSEY AND WHITNEY. >> I WOULD KEEP ASHLEY ON.
>> I AGREE 100%. >> YOU ARE THE ONE SUGGESTING.
I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS WHITNEY MY ONLY CONCERN IS SHE WORKS FOR A DEVELOPER. THIS IS MY ONLY CONCERN.
SHE IS A GREAT PERSON. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE SHE PUT ON THERE. EITHER ONE A GREAT ASSET.
>> I WOULD SUPPORT YOUR POSITION.
>> I WOULD AS WELL. >> WE'LL GO TO VOTE AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD.
COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN. ANGELICA.
VICE MAYOR CUTLER BILL. I HAVE JEFF.
COMMISSIONER BRIER HAS LAURA. COMMISSIONER ISRAEL HAS SHERRY.
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>> I THINK IT IS LAURIE. IT IS OKAY.
>> LAURIE. >> RUPPERT AND KENDRA, DENISE AS AN ALTERNATE. ONE MORE IF WE STAY WITH STATUS QUO. ONE MORE ALTERNATE WE WOULD WANT
TO ADD. >> THERE IS SOME FROM THE PNZ
WHO ARE ALSO -- >> WE CAN ADD THEM.
>> THERE IS SOME FROM PNZ MAY NOT BE IN THE RUNNING FOR THE ONE OPEN SEAT. WILLING TO SERVE ON THOSE BOARDS AS WELL. UM, THAT IS SOMETHING TO ALSO CONSIDER. I NOTE DAVID GOT INTERESTED IN BOTH PARKS AND RECS, COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING FOR ALEX ON THE OTHER TWO.
FABIO INDICATED HE IS WILLING TO SERVE ON PARKS AND RECS, COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD. LINDSEY AS WELL.
>> PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE WHO PUT AS THEIR FIRST CHOICE GET DIBBS ON COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD.
THAT SHOWS WHERE THEY WANT TO BE.
>> THAT IS TOUGH PNZ SO HOTLY CONTESTED THEY HAD TO PUT IT.
>> PARKS AND REC, BUILDING NEW 36 ACRE PARK.
COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD. EVERY BOARD IS EXTREMELY
VALUABLE. >> I AGREE IT IS THE AMOUNT OF APPLICANTS THAT DIFFERENTIATES RANKINGS.
>> IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AS THE NEXT PERSON.
>> THOSE ARE THE NEXT POSITIONS TO FILL.
>> WOULD BE ONE ALTERNATE, CORRECT?
>> WE HAVE KENDRA. >> WHO ARE YOU ARE AT-LARGE?
>> KENDRA AND RUPPERT. >> DENISE ALTERNATE.
>> I WOULD THINK JENNIFER SOF. >> SHE PUT PARKS AND REC FIRST.
>> OKAY. THERE IS LINDSEY, OTHERS ON THAT I DON'T -- THE BALANCE, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE WOMEN.
THAT CURRENTLY ARE SERVING. I WOULD BALANCE THAT OUT.
>> YEAH. >> TO TRY TO BE FAIR TO THE PROCESS. [LAUGHTER]
>> ALL RIGHT. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE A
PREFERENCE? >> LIKE I SAID I WANT TO CONTINUE TO EMPHASIZE THAT EVERYBODY THAT APPLIED IS
QUALIFIED. >> WE HAVE ALL SAID THAT.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT. EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THERE ARE
ONLY SO MANY SPOTS. >> I THINK FABIO, LINDSEY, MARK QUALIFIED. I DON'T KNOW MANY OF THE PEOPLE
THAT PUT OPENINGS CAB. >> LINDSEY HAS CAB AS THIRD
CHOICE. >> ON OUR CAB PAGE, MARIANO RELATIVELY NEW TO THE COMMUNITY. STRONG HISPANIC BACKGROUND.
>> SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. >> THAT IS A POSSIBILITY THERE.
>> I THINK THAT IS A GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT IT.
COMMUNITY COMPRISED OF OUR COMMUNITY, SO PARKS AND REC,
COMMISSIONER BRIAR, BRANDON. >> UH HUH.
>> COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN, HOWARD.
>> I HAD JOHN. VICE MAYOR CUTLER KENON.
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COMMISSIONER ISRAEL HAS LEO GORDON.SO THAT IS THE FIVE. BRIAN AND SANDRA WERE THE AT-LARGES. ACTUALLY NO, SANDRA ALTERNATE, CORRECT? CAN SOMEONE CONFIRM THAT.
DAVID GOT AND ROBERT BRANNEN. DAVID GOT ON PARKS AND REC.
>> SANDRA WAS A MEMBER. >> I WOULD BRIAN TO REGULAR
THEN DO AT-LARGE. >> WE NEED TWO ALTERNATES.
>> JENNIFER IS AN ALTERNATE. >> YEP.
>> ARE WE NOT KEEPING DAVID WHO WAS ON PARKS AND REC AND PUT
THAT AS A SECOND CHOICE? >> I WOULD BE GOOD WITH DAVID.
>> YEP. SO DAVID WOULD BE, I WOULD HAVE
WHO WERE THE TWO AT-LARGES? >> SANDRA.
>> SANDRA AND DAVID AS AT-LARGE BRIAN AND JENNIFER ALTERNATES.
>> I AM GOOD WITH THAT. >> I AM GOOD WITH THAT.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOOD? NOW WE HAVE PLANNING FOR FUTURE CITY GROWTH.
WORKSHOP SERIES. PERFECT TIMING.
>> OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO GET STARTED.
WE ARE GOING TO GET STARTED NOW. [LAUGHTER].
[4B. Planning for Future City Growth Workshop Series - Discussion 2]
TONIGHT'S WORKSHOP IS THE SECOND IN SET OF SIXTH FUTURE GROWTH.
TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY THIRD GOAL IN OUR CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. CGA TASKED TO ASSESS THE GOLF COURSE AND WAYS TO MITIGATE IMPACTS.
>> HELLO AGAIN. FOR THE RECORD JIM HICKY AND DONNA WHITE. SHE IS THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT. SHE IS HERE TO CORRECT ME FOR ANYTHING I MAY MISSTATE OR CORRECT ME.
SUMMARY OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.
TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY. CURRENT TRENDS.
WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY AS A WHOLE AND LOOK AT NEW INNOVATIONS THAT MAYBE COMING FORWARD OF COURSE ROUND ABOUTS.
WE KNOW YOU HAVE ONE AND LOOKING TO DO ADDITIONAL ONES AND NEXT STEPS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPMENT OF A PARTICULAR PARCEL. THIS IS THE SCOPE OF WORK WE WERE ASSIGNED TO DO AND WE ARE ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT.
CITY MANAGER HAS SAID SERIES OF SIX, THIS IS TWO OF SIX.
WE WILL BE BACK NEXT MONTH TO TALK ABOUT OPEN SPACE AND DEVELOPMENT AND TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE.
I KNOW YOU FOLKS ARE INTERESTED IN PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AND KEEP THOSE AT A HIGH LEVEL. AS THE POPULATION GROWS YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOUR PARK SPACE IS FITTING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.
NEXT DECEMBER 14TH. ON TO TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY.
JUST FOR THE RECORD EVERYBODY HAS SEEN THIS TRAFFIC BEFORE.
THIS IS THE POTENTIAL AREA OF REDEVELOPMENT CITY MAY OR MAY NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH PURCHA PURCHASING.
SINGLE FAMILY TO THE NORTH. CITY OF PARKLAND.
SOUTHERN 8.5 ACRES IN THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT AREA TO LOOK AT AND DIANA DO INITIAL ANALYSIS ON TRAFFIC TO IDENTIFY HOW MANY TRIPS COMING OUT OF THE POTENTIAL SITE. PART OF THAT, TOO, LOOKING AT THE 13-ACRE SITE. THIS IS HERN BAY BOULEVARD.
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JUST FOR AND AGAIN JUST AN ASSUMPTION OF SQUARE FOOTAGE.ASSUMPTIONS NORTH PARCEL. 250 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL.
75,000 SQUARE FEET ON THE SOUTH PARCEL.
DEPENDING ON WHAT USES GO INTO A PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT DEPENDS ON THOSE TRIPS AND HOW THEY ARE ANALYZED.
DIANA CAN TALK ABOUT IF YOU HAVE DIFFERENT USES FOLK THAT IS WILL GO TO STARBUCKS AS WELL AS AN ICE CREAM STORE.
WE WANT TO GIVE YOU NUMBER OF POTENTIAL TRIPS, DIANA YOU WALK
THROUGH THE INFORMATION. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY, DIANA WHITE FOR THE RECORD. WE ASSUME 250,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL. WE ARE ESTIMATING DAILY TRIP 19,000. THIS IS FOR THE ENTIRE DAY AND 250,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL. FOR PARCEL TO THE SOUTH, 13 ACRE, THAT ONE IS 7,000 ADDITIONAL DAILY TRIPS.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE OR CURRENT 2019, PUBLISHED BY THE BROWARD COUNTY MPO RANGING 22,000 DAILY TRIPS. THAT IS WHAT IT IS AROUND NOB HILL, NORTH AND SOUTH TRAFFIC MOVEMENTS.
19,000 FOR PARCEL AND 7,000 FOR THE SOUTH PARCEL.
I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT ACCESS DRIVEWAYS THE COUNTY AND HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION HAS.
MINOR DRIVEWAY WILL HANDLE 4082 ANNUALLY DAILY TRIPS.
FOR A SMALL, PROBABLY RESIDENTIAL, SMALL COMMERCIAL 19,000 FOR THE ACCESS. INTERMEDIATE 2,000 ANNUAL DAILY TRAFFIC. MAJOR DRIVE 5,000.
WE ARE MOVING AWAY TO 19 THOUSHGSZ TRIPS 19,000 TRIPS.
SIGNAL NEEDS TO MEET WARRANTS. AND 1A AND 1B.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO GO OVER THEM LITTLE MORE.
BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS, OR ESTIMATED AT THIS POINT THIS SITE WOULD BE GENERATING THAT IS WHY WE ARE CONSIDERING THAT SITE. AS FAR AS HOW MANY ACCESS POINTS OR WHAT DRIVEWAYS, EVERYTHING WOULD BE ANALYZED WITH YOUR TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY. NORMALLY BETWEEN 350-400 FEET EASURE FROM CENTER LINE TO CENTER LINE.
I KNOW I AM TALKING A LOT ABOUT NUMBERS.
FEEL FREE TO INTERRUPT ME. I DO THESE EVERYDAY.
WHEN I AM THROWING NUMBERS AND NOT SHOWING YOU A --
>> I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION, UNDER YOUR CATEGORY NO. 1, 19,000 AND 7,000 THAT IS IN ADDITION TO THE 22,000 CURRENT
DAILY NUMBER. >> FOR NOB HILL ROAD.
>> CORRECT. >> MEASURE OF SERVICE IN DELAY.
FOR NOB HILL, IT IS CURRENTLY LEVEL OF SERVICE C.
IF WE GO FART SOFARTHER SOUTH LEVEL OF SERVICE.
>> HOW MUCH FURTHER? >> BETWEEN SAW GRASS OO.
PART OF THAT DESIGN IS TO WIDEN CORE RIDGE FROM SAW GRASS INTO HERN BAY. THREE LANES NORTH AND TWO LANES
SOUTH. >> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
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CREATING FUNNEL FROM SAW GRASS PROGRESSING NORTH?>> THAT WIDENING WILL END SOUTH OF HERN BAY BOULEVARD.
>> IT IS PART OF THE DATA WE WANT TO BRING.
CURRENT CAPACITY FOR NOB HILL. 37,000 TRIPS.
IF WE ARE ADDING 19 WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK INTO ADDING NEW LANES,
NORTH AND SOUTH. >> I HAVE A QUESTION, 22,000
TRIPS MEANS THAT BETWEEN -- >> THAT IS TODAY NOB HILL.
>> TRIPS MEANING FROM SOMEONE'S RESIDENT OR SOME PLACE OF WORK?
>> DAILY COMMUTING NORTH AND SOUTH.
PASS BY TRIPS. ANYBODY ON THAT ROAD, CURRENTLY FDOT HAS COUNTERS ON THOSE ROADS.
SOMETIMES YOU SEE IT AS A TUBE OR HAVE IT AS A LOOP WHICH IS LECTRONIC DEVICE EMBEDDED INTO THE PAVEMENT.
VERY SMALL. THAT IS A COUNTER.
THAT INFORMATION GETS IT TO FDOT AND HAS THAT DATA AVAILABLE FOR BROWARD MPO'S AND COUNTY TO SEE THE DAILY AND CURRENT CAPACITY
WHAT IS THE PRESUMPTION BASED ON 22,000 A DAY OF GOIFRNG GOING BACK AND FORTH, HOW DOES IT INCREASE BY 19,000 BY VIRTUE OF ADDING ANOTHER PLAZA? ASSUMING 19,000 PEOPLE TRAVELING
TO THAT PLAZA? >> 19,000 TRIPS IN AND OUT THAT ACCESS WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE ENVISIONING.
19,000 TRIPS IS WHAT THE 250,000 SQUARE FOOT OF RETAIL WILL
GENERATE. >> THAT IS TO AND FROM.
IF SOMEONE GOES THERE ONE TRIP, LEAVES ANOTHER.
>> IN AND OUT OF THE SITE. >> THERE WILL BE AN OVERLAP, OBVIOUSLY, RESIDENTS WOIF NORMALLY HAD THAT TRIP GOING HOME. THERE IS GOING TO BE AN OVERLAP.
>> SOME OF THE TRIPS GENERATED FROM THE SOUTH.
>> YOU DID SAY IT IS A 2019 NUMB PER.
THEY WEREN'T DOING NUMBERS. >> THEY TRY TO DO IT EVERY 5-10 YEARS AND WANT TO SEE THE TRENDS.
NOW PEOPLE DO FLEX TIME, HYBRID, TWO DAYS OFFICE, THREE DAYS FROM HOME OR VICE VERSA. THEY WANT TO SEE WHAT THAT TREND IS. WHAT THE PANDEMIC DID TO ALL THESE TRAVEL PATTERNS AND DO THE NUMBERS AGAIN.
IF YOU GO TO FDOT THEY HAVE THE COUNTER AND WILL SHOW YOU THE
GRAPH. >> TO YOUR POINT THERE COULD BE
LESS TRIPS. >> THAT IS THE REASON WE PERFORM A TRAFFIC STUDY WITH COUNTS IN REAL TIME.
>> AS THE NUMBER GOES DOWN PERCENTAGE WISE, HOW MUCH DOES THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS GO DOWN. FOR EXAMPLE, 250 OR 200 OR 150.
>> NOT NECESSARILY >> UNDERSTOOD.
>> THAT NUMBER IS MORE TO BE FOCUSSED ON ESTABLISHMENTS.
>> YOU TELL ME YOUR CALCULATIONS.
I DON'T THINK ANY ARE BASED ON BIG BOX RETAIL.
>> COMMUNITY ORIENTED. NOT A DESTINATION.
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>> THESE ARE ESTIMATES BASED ON --
>> SHOULDN'T READ TOO MUCH INTO WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
EVERYTHING THAT IS BEING PROVIDED --
>> AS WELL AS THE INTERCHANGES DESIGNED AND BUILT.
RIGHT NOW, WE ARE GIVING YOU WHAT THE TRIPS ARE PROJECTED
>> MIGHT CHANGE WHEN WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN THAT SITE.
PERHAPS THERE IS GOING TO BE A PARK OR SOME OTHER USES.
>> RIGHT. >> BECAUSE RETAIL WILL BE YOUR H HIGHEST.
>> THESE ARE BROAD NUMBERS. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE LEVEL C. WITH THIS IT WILL TURN INTO A LEVEL F. SO POTENTIALLY COULD BE D.
>> THAT IS WITH NO MODIFICATIONS.
>> YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MODIFY IT.
MY QUESTION IS: POTENTIALLY WHAT IS THE COST TO MODIFY? IS THAT COST RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY? DEVELOPER? COUNTY, STATE?
WHO PAYS FOR THAT COST? >> IT IS A PERCENTAGE SHARE OF THE CAPACITY YOU ARE ADDING TO THE ROAD.
>> RIGHT. THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING.
CURRENTLY, THAT IS WHY I SAID DIFFERENCE CURRENTLY AT LEVEL C.
IF THIS PROJECT CREATES LEVEL F -- DIFFERENCE TO BRING IT TO OUR REQUIREMENT IS LEVEL D. COST FROM THE LEVEL F TO LEVEL D
WE OWN THE PROPERTY. WE ARE GOING --
>> IT IS A COUNTY ROAD. YOU HAVE F DOT THAT IS GOING TO
WIDEN. >> PART OF ANY SALE, WE CAN --
>> PART OF THE OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS.
>> I WANT TO FLUSH THAT IT. >> MY UNDERSTANDING THIS WOULD BE PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE WOULD HAVE, DEVELOPER BEAR THE
BURDEN. >> GOES BACK TO THE POINT OF
CONTROLLING THE PROCESS. >> THIS IS LOOKING AT IT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE. LOOK AT HOW MUCH TRAFFIC OUT OF 66 HOW MUCH DOWN NOB HILL. THEN PASSER BYES.
IF THERE IS A CHICK-FIL-A EVERYBODY STOPS, THOSE WOULD NORMALLY BE ON NOB HILL ROAD. NUMBERS GET REDUCED.
TYPES OF USES. I AM PICKING THINGS THAT TAKE A LONG TIME TO MAYBE I DON'T KNOW DRY CLEANING.
YOU ARE DROPPING OFF YOUR DRY CLEANING AND HAPPEN TO GO TO STARBUCKS BECAUSE IT IS THERE. THAT IS BASICALLY ONE TRIP.
THEY ARE GOING TO TWO DIFFERENT USES THERE.
>> TRIPS WE ARE EXPLAINING ARE JUKS THE GROSS TRIPS, REDUCED PASS BY TRIPS AND ANY SIDE TRIPS.
>> THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATES. WE DON'T WANT TO FRIGHTEN.
EVERYTHING WILL BE FINALIZED. CAPACITY WILL BE ACCEPTABLE AT THE TIME OF BUILD OUT. WE NEED TO ADD THE TRIPS TO THE
NETWORK. >> I WANT TO ASK ONE QUESTION.
I KNOW YOU HAVE MORE IN THE PRESENTATION --
>> IT IS OKAY THAT IS WHY WE ARE.
I TOLD JIM THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO SPEND MOST OF OUR TIME.
>> I DON'T WANT TO CUT YOU SHORT.
QUESTION I HAD IS NO. 3, WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CENTER LINES, WHY IS THAT RELEVANT?
>> SO WE HAVE 19,000 TRIPS. SO BASED ON THAT, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO MAJOR DRIVEWAY. WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS WITH DG MCGUIRE. THEY WILL WANT A SIGNAL
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AGREEMENT. WITH TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, PER HAPPEN IT IS SIGNAL IS TOO SATURATED BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS. HE MIGHT SAY YOU ARE GOING TO NEED ANOTHER ACCESS POINT. THAT IS WHERE YOU'LL DISTRIBUTE THE ADDITIONAL TRIPS HANDLED BY THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.THAT WAS JUST FOR ME TO GIVE YOU IDEA OF THE SEPARATION ANYWHERE 350-450 FROM CENTER LINE TO CENTER LINE.
>> THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE 350-40. >> FOR EXAMPLE, THOSE ARE CLOSE TOGETHER. THEY ARE REALLY CLOSE.
THAT IS SOMETHING THEY DON'T LIKE TO DO BECAUSE YOU START TO GET TRAFFIC THAT BUNCHES UP. THERE IS ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO, THEY CAN COME OUT. THERE IS SPACE BETWEEN WHEN THE
LIGHTS CHANGE PEOPLE COULD -- >> THE IDEA WOULD BE TO REMOVE IT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE POINT.
JIM. I GET THEY ARE CLOSE TOGETHER
AND BACKUP AS A RESULT. >> THIS IS WHAT IS CALLED ACCESS MANAGEMENT. LARGEST EXISTENCE BETTER TRAFFIC CIRCULATION AND ALSO LESS CONFLICT POINTS YOU HAVE.
WHEN YOU HAVE ONE TOO CLOSE TO ANOTHER ONE 50-60 FEET, TRUCK THAT IS WIDE IT IS GOING TO CONFLICT.
LARGER THAT SPACE IS BETTER TRAFFIC CIRCULATION.
>> BETTER FLOW. >> WHAT IS THE FIX?
>> I BROUGHT THAT UP AS AN EXAMPLE.
>> FOLKS AT HERN BAY, THEY BACK UP TO HOL MBURG INTERSECTION.
YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE IF YOU HAVE MAIN ACCESS AT 66 AND
SECOND ACCESS FURTHER SOUTH. >> TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, ANALYZE TWO, THREE DIFFERENT DRIVEWAYS AND SEE IF IT WORKS BETTER OR NOT. A LOT OF CASE, PERHAPS A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WILL BE THE BEST ANSWER. AT THAT POINT IT IS HARD TO TELL WITHOUT KNOW WHATTING THE ACTUAL TRIPS WILL BE.
>> OKAY. >> WE HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE?
>> WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE? >> I THINK WE ARE GOOD ON THIS
ONE. >> I HAVE A HEADACHE, WE ARE
[LAUGHTER]. >> WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
IF YOU MOVE FORWARD TRAFFIC STUDY, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
DO A TRAFFIC STUDY. >> WHAT TYPE OF INTERSECTION.
ROUND ABOUT DEPENDING ON THE TRAFFIC, YOU HAVE TO PUT THE
PROPER INTERSECTION. >> ANY KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS
WOULD NEED TO BE REVIEWED. >> WE ARE DOING TWO-LANE AT MECCA. PRESUMABLY.
>> -- WE'LL FIND OUT IF THAT WORKS THREE LANE OR FOUR LANE.
IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD LARGEST VEHICLE WINS.
>> THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS IN BOSTON WHERE I GREW UP.
WE WANTED TO TALK. >> YOU ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH STREETS PROGRAM. THIS IS JUST FOR THOSE IN THE
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AUDIENCE, TOO. THERE HAS BEEN A COUNTRY WIDE PUSH FOR COMPLETE STREETS. IT IS GOING BACK TO MAKING SURE THIS ADEQUATE FACILITIES FOR ALL MODES OF TRAVEL.ALSO TO REDUCE SPEED IN SOME PLACES AND INCREASE SAEFT.
SAFETY AND PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS.
THINKING ABOUT IT FOR A STREET FOR EVERYONE.
I BELIEVE THE NEXT SLIDE YOU ALL ARE FINISHED FOR HOL MBURG.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT, TOO.
LANDSCAPING TO REDUCE TRAFFIC. IT DOES HELP.
>> MAKES PEOPLE FEEL LIKE IT IS MORE CLOSED IN THAN IT IS.
THAT IS WHAT WE DO IN DEVELOPMENTS TO LOOK AT THE STREET COMPLETELY. PARKING, ENOUGH SPACE TO HAVE LANDSCAPING. OUTDOOR SEATING.
IMPACTS THE DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE. DEVELOPMENT IN SOUTH FLORIDA GOT A LOT BETTER THAN THE OUTDOOR SEATING AND OUTDOOR FEEL.
I THINK WE ARE GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.
I WANT TO MENTION IT ON A PRIVATE ROAD.
>> TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN AND CURRENT TRENDS HERE IN SOUTH FLORIDA AND ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. TO HELP PEOPLE SLOW DOWN FOR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, BICYCLE TRAFFIC.
GENERALLY WITH THIS COULD BE ANYTHING FROM CHI CANES, ELEVATOR INTERSECTION, BALL BOUTS.
CROSSWALKS. ONLY ISSUE WE HAVE WITH THE ROUNDABOUTS TO GET ENERGY REP RESPONDERS EARLY DURING THE PLANNING STAGE TO DESIGN AND PLAN FOR LARGER VEHICLES IF IT IS AN AREA THAT REQUIRES DELIVERS.
NORMALLY HANDLED THROUGH MOUNT MCCLURE.
ANOTHER LOW TECH IS WE ARE TIRED OF SEEING 12 FOOT TRAVEL LANE WIDTH. TRYING TO GO DOWN TO 11, 10 AND A HALF, MAYBE 89 H 9 -- 9. ONE OF THE LANES WAS ELIMINATED TO PROVIDE FOR BUFF BICYCLE LANE AND KEEP ONE LANE FLOWING.
CLEAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BICYCLE AND VEHICLE.
WHEN YOU SEE PAVERS, ALSO GIVEN A DIFFERENT FEELING ALSO CONSIDERED IN A TRAFFIC-CALMING TREATMENT.
TWO SLIDES LATER TALK ABOUT ROUNDABOUT, FLASHING BEACONS.
PROPER STUD DIP AND PEDESTRIAN WARRANTS TO BE INSTALLED.
>> SURE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS. THIS IS THE DEVERGING DIAMOND.
I IDENTIFIED THIS GRAPHIC IS SMALL TO READ.
TURNPIKE ENTERPRISE THAT RUNS SAWGRASS.
THEY ARE LOOKING AT DOING DIAMONDS.
AS PART OF THE CORE RIDGE DRIVE SAWGRASS, THEY ARE GOING TO EXPAND, WIDEN ROADWAY UP TO SIX LANES.
THESE AND ONE ON THE LEFT I WANTED TO SHOW, THIS IS GLADES
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AND 95. THIS IS GOING TO BE DONE RELATIVELY SOON. WHAT ARE THEY DOING UP HERE? THEY ARE DOING A DEVERGING DIAMOND.YOU CROSS LANES UNDER THE HIGHWAY.
NORMALLY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROAD.
THAT ALLOWS LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS TO RUN FREELY ON THAT SIDE THEN BACK ON THE OTHER SIDE. IT IS AN INTERESTING CONCEPT.
WORKS WITH INTERCHANGES CORAL RIDGE.
HUGE LEFT TURNING MOVEMENTS GOING EAST IN THE MORNING, RIGHT THEN COMING WEST. WESTBOUND SOUTH INTO CORAL SPRINGS IS A BIG MOVEMENT. IF YOU CAN GET THOSE AND MERGE INTO THE TRAFFIC REDUCES SIGNALIZATION TIME AND KEEPS FLOW OF TRAFFIC. YOU BASICALLY HAVE THREE SETS OF LIGHTS RATHER THAN FOUR OR FIVE. PEOPLE HAVE TO WAIT.
TAKE A LEFT AND PEOPLE CLOG THE MIDDLE.
>> THE DRIVING MOVEMENT IS THE LEFT.
THIS IS JUST FOR A BETTER FLOW >> SO FOR THE TOP RIGHT IMAGE, ARROWS GOING UP AND ARROW DOWN, LIGHT THERE?
>> RIGHT. SO THIS MOVEMENT HERE CAN YOU
SEE THAT. >> YOU WOULD BE HERE.
YOU WOULD GO ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD, RIGHT? THEN THIS TRAFFIC WOULD MERGE WITH YOU.
THEN AT THIS POINT DOWN HERE, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE A LEFT AND GO THROUGH HERE. BASICALLY YOUR LEFT TURNS WILL MOVE AT THE SAME TIME YOUR THROUGH LANES ARE GOING.
>> RIGHT. TRAFFIC ALSO PRESUMABLY COMING
SOUTH INTERSECTING. >> WHEN THIS IS HAPPENING, THIS
TRAFFIC IS STOPPED. >> THERE IS A LIGHT.
>> THESE FOLKS WOULD GO THROUGH FIRST.
THEN THIS WOULD STAY RED AND THIS TRAFFIC WOULD GO THROUGH.
>> MAKES FOR A LONGER TIMING BUT DOESN'T REQUIRE AS MANY SIGNAL
PHASES. >> INTERESTING, PUTTING A NUMBER IN FLORIDA. DOT IS FINALLY ON BOARD WITH IT.
FIRST IN SARASOTA COUNTY. WORKS WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF LEFTS. SAWGRASS GO OUT THROUGH COMMERCIAL, SUNRISE, CROSS OVERS WHERE THERE IS CONFLICTS.
>> ROUNDABOUTS HAVE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.
IT DOES REDUCE YOUR TRAVEL TIME, FLOWS BETTER.
HAS LESS CONFLICTED MOVEMENTS, YOU ARE LOOKING TO YOUR LEFT INSTEAD OF THREE DIFFERENT APPROACHES.
CHANGES DRIVER ENVIRONMENT. GENERALLY HAVE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK APPROACHING THE ROUNDABOUT.
YOU ALSO HAVE A MEDIAN SOMETIMES.
THAT IS WHY I SAID IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT PLANNING DISCUSSION WITH EMERGENCY RESPONDERS TO SEE IF THESE WHATEVER YOU ARE TRYING TO INSTALL IF THESE ARE THE RIGHT
LOCATIONS FOR ROUNDABOUT. >> DIRECTLY FROM YOUR WEBSITE.
>> WE DID CHECK WITH THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
>> I COULD TELL. >> THE RAISED PAVEMENT.
TRUTHFULLY, YOU HAVE A FIRE ENGINE.
TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE TO GET FOLKS THERE.
YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ROUNDABOUT IS THERE.
ALSO WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, TOO AND SCHOOLS, NEED TO GET TO SOME WHERE QUICKLY, THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH IF THERE IS TRAFFIC BACKED UP AND POLICE AND FIRE TO GET AROUND IF THERE IS
AN ISSUE. >> THAT IS WITH THE AMOUNT OF THE CURVE. SO IMPORTANT TO UTILIZE TO
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DETERMINE THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES. >> THEN THIS WAS A CONCEPT YOU ALL HAVE FOR THE LOX ROAD ROUNDABOUT.
INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE TWO-LANE ROUNDABOUT.
>> WE ARE GOING FOR A RECORD TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE MORE ROUNDABOUTS THAN ANY OTHER CITY IN THE COUNTRY.
WE WILL BE CLOSE. >> THINK ABOUT IT, PERSONALLY, MY OPINION ANY TIME YOU CAN TAKE AWAY A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION AND PUT A SAFE, IT IS AN A TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICE.
YOU ARE NOT RACING LIGHT TO LIGHT.
YOU KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO STOP.
>> AND YOU GET TO KEEP THE LOOK OF YOUR COMMUNITY.
TRUTHFULLY, IT IS MUCH MORE APPEALING TO THE EYES THAN A TRAFFIC LIGHT NOT TO MENTION FASTER.
>> FOUR-WAY STOP CONTROL YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL FOUR APPROACHES. AND YOU HAVE 32 CONFLICTING POINTS WITH TWO LANES. WHEN YOU HAVE A ROUNDABOUT ONLY
FOUR CONFLICTING POINTS. >> ANY MULTI-LANE ROUNDABOUTS CLOSE BY THAT ABSORB THE TRAFFIC ON NOB HILL? MAYBE IT IS AN ANSWER FOR A DIFFERENT DAY?
>> I DON'T KNOW OF ANY IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
>> CAN IT BEAR -- >> MECCA IS A TWO LANE.
>> MECCA DOESN'T HAVE NEAR THE TRAFFIC.
>> HOLLYWOOD HAS BIG CIRCLES. >> THEY DO.
I BELIEVE THEY ALSO HAVE A LIGHT.
>> ONE BY THE AMPHITHEATER THEY HAVE COUPLE OF LIGHT THERE IS ON
THE CIRCLE. >> ONE BY CITY HALL AS WELL.
>> I THINK THE ONE WEST. >> THERE IS ONE.
THOSE HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE THE CITY WAS FOUNDED, TOO.
>> BEFORE THIS I DID HAVE TRAFFIC ENGINEER DEPARTMENT.
HE MENTIONED BECAUSE IT IS A COUNTY ROAD IT WILL HAVE TO BE REVIED. HE WAS OPPOSED TO THE ROUNDABOUT. IF IT WORKS, WORKS.
PLEASE PROVIDE OPERATIONAL ANAL SISZ.
OF COURSE CITY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, AND MAINTENANCE. EXCEPT FOR THE MARKINGS.
BROWARD COUNTY WILL HAVE. >> I THINK.
NEXT STEPS. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
THAT WOULD BE IF YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY, THIS WOULD BE PART OF ANY PLATTING OR YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO LAND USE AMENDMENT. WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AND FIND OUT YOUR IMPACTS, NUMBERS AND ONCE YOU GET TO THE COUNTY HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF NUMBERS AND BEST SOLUTION FOR THAT INTERSECTION. WE KNOW FOLKS ON THE EAST SIDE HAVE TROUBLE IN THE A.M. COMING OUT AND TAKING THE LEFT, TOO.
SOME SORT OF INTERSECTION BE ROUNDABOUT OR SIGNAL LIGHT
HELPING FOLKS ACCESS. >> WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS WE HAVE GENERATED ON THE WEST SIDE MIGHT BE HARD.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE INVESTIGATED.
I SEE THE CITY'S POSITION IS MORE TO THE ROUNDABOUT TO KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD FEELING. IT DOESN'T MEET THE CAPACITY, THAT IS WHY I SAID SIGNAL LIGHT WILL HAVE TO BE PUT IN PLACE.
NORMALLY KEEP THE SECURITY FOR TWO YEARS, THE COUNTY.
DO THE STUDY TWO YEARS AFTER CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY HAS BEEN ISSUED. THEN THEY'LL RELEASE THE
SECURITY. >> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER. I LIKE TO PUT DOWN WHAT POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES TO THINK ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE IF THERE IS A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
>> ALREADY WRITE AGO GRANT. >> THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE ARE GOOD.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION TO ADJOURN.
SORRY. COMMISSIONER BRIER DID THAT
>>
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.