[1. Call to Order]
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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP FOR THE CITY OF PARKLAND ON WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 2022 AT 4 PM TO ORDER.
PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THEREPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD , INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[4A. Consideration of National Days to Proclaim]
PRESENTATION. CONSIDERATION OF NATIONAL DAYSTO PROCLAIM. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I WASN'T GOING TO WEAR MY GLASSES, BUT WHEN I SAW COMMISSIONER ISROW COME IN, I THOUGHT WHAT THE HECK? GOOD AFTERNOON, TODD DEANGELIS, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS.
AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE AN INORDINATE NUMBER OF NATIONAL MONTHS, NATIONAL WEEKS, AND NATIONAL DAYS HONORING, CELEBRATING, OR OTHERWISE RECOGNIZING CAUSES AND EVENTS.
THE MONTH OF MARCH, AS AN EXAMPLE, IS NUTRITION MONTH, WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, IRISH-AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, CEREBRAL PALSY MONTH, BRAIN INJURY AWARENESS MONTH, MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS MONTH, ENDOMETRIOSIS MONTH, KIDNEY MONTH, COLORECTAL CANCER MONTH IN SOCIAL WORK MONTH.
THE MONTH OF JANUARY HAD MORE DAYS AND WEEKS RECOGNIZED IN THE MONTH THAN THERE ARE DAYS AND WEEKS IN THE MONTH.
JANUARY HAD CELEBRATION OF LIFE WEEK, BULLOCK ACID AWARE WEEK.
HUNT FOR HAPPINESS WEEK, HEALTHY WEIGHT WEEK, AND CATHOLIC SCHOOLS WEEK. IN ADDITION IT HAD 83 NATIONAL DAYS RECOGNIZED RANGING FROM THE SILLY TO THE SERIOUS.
RANGING FROM STEP IN A PUDDLE AND SPLASH YOUR FRIEND STATES THAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING AWARENESS.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS CREATE A FAIR AND SIMPLE SYSTEM, WHERE WE BUY WE DETERMINE WHAT IT IS WE WILL PROCLAIM. THE THINKING TO THIS POINT HAS TAKEN US TO THIS PLACE. WE WOULD CREATE A COMPREHENSIVE LIST PRESENTED TO ALL OF YOU AT STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. YOU WOULD DETERMINE THOSE NATIONAL MONTHS, NATIONAL WEEKS, AND NATIONAL DAYS THAT WE WOULD FORMERLY PROCLAIM WITH THE PROCLAMATION READ INTO THE RECORD. THERE COULD ALSO BE A LARGER GROUP OF THOSE CAUSES AND EVENTS THAT WE WOULD RECOGNIZE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY FORMALLY COMPLAINED TO THE PROCLAMATION.
>> CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? WHERE ARE YOU PULLING THESE FROM? IS THERE A NATIONAL LIST, OR SOMETHING -- AUTHORITATIVE? OR IS THIS A CATCHALL?
>> I'M NOT SURE HOW AUTHORITATIVE IT IS, OR HOW OFFICIAL. BUT THERE ARE NUMEROUS SOURCES.
I TRIED TO PULL FOR ALL OF THEM SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE HAVE AS COMPREHENSIVE A LIST AS POSSIBLE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS I'M NOT MENTIONING.
LIKE STEP IN A PUDDLE. THOSE AREN'T UP FOR
CONSIDERATION. >> SOMETIMES I WILL GO ON A RANDOM DAY AND GOOGLE WHAT IS TODAY.
AND YOU'LL GET A LIST OF TODAY IS THIS, OR TODAY IS THAT.
>> THAT'S MY QUESTION. IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE NEVER-ENDING CONCEPTS WERE PEOPLE COULD MAKE A WEBSITE OF A CERTAIN DAY. AND NOW, WE ARE CONSIDERING IT
HERE. >> YEAH, AND WE ARE TRYING TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND HER. AND IF WE DECIDE AT STRATEGIC PLANNING, BUT THOSE WILL BE FOR THE YEAR.
AND AS I'M ABOUT TO GET INTO, FOR ANY REQUESTS THAT WOULD COME UP BEYOND WHAT YOU DECIDE AT STRATEGIC PLANNING.
WHETHER THEY COME THROUGH CITY STAFF OR ELECTED OFFICIALS, YOU CAN GIVE THOSE TO ME; I PUT THEM IN THE QUEUE AND THEY GET CONSIDERED BY YOU AT THE NEXT STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE REACTING TO SOMETHING THAT MAY COME UP VERY QUICKLY ON SHORT NOTICE.
FOR THOSE THINGS THAT ARE ULTRA RARE CIRCUMSTANCES -- SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME UP OF A MORE IMMEDIATE SITUATION -- SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO DELAY UNTIL NEXT YEAR OR CONSIDER FOR THE NEXT CALENDARS PROCLAMATION? THOSE ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN. WE CAN HANDLE THOSE ON A
CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. >> ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THE PROCLAMATION IS, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE -- AND HONOR,
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RIGHT? IN MY OPINION, WE WANT TO LIMIT THESE TWO, YOU KNOW, VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES.OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE IS SOMEONE UP HERE THAT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO THEIR HEART, OBVIOUSLY LET YOU KNOW ABOUT IT.
BUT I WOULD BE FEARFUL OF HAVING PROCLAMATIONS -- YOU KNOW -- WHAT WE HAVE, 20 -25 MEETINGS A YEAR? TO ME, I WOULDN'T SEE HIM DOING MORE THAN ONE DAY -- OR AT A MEETING, I SHOULD SAY, UNLESS IT'S A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE.
BECAUSE YOU GET TO A PLACE WHERE EVERYBODY GETS A TROPHY PRETTY QUICKLY. AND I THINK THAT DILUTES THE
SIGNIFICANCE. >> AND BECAUSE YOU AREN'T GIVING A PROCLAMATION DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T RECOGNIZE
COLORECTAL CANCEL MONTH. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> I'M JUST UPSET THAT YOU DIDN'T TELL US ABOUT BULLOCK
ACID WEEK. >> I'M NOT PREGNANT SO -- (LAUGHING). SO ANYWAY, THAT IS KIND OF WHERE WE ARE. WE THINK THIS PROCESS OF PRESENTING TO YOU A COMPREHENSIVE LIST AND LETTING YOU DECIDE. AND THEN WE ADD AT THE NEXT STRATEGIC PLANNING ANYTHING THAT CAME IN AFTER HE MADE THE DECISION. OR HANDLING THE EMERGENCY ONES ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. THOSE WOULD GO TO THE MANAGER.
SHE WOULD CONSULT WITH ALL OF YOU.WE BELIEVE THAT WOULD GET US TO A PLACE WHERE WE ARE FORMALLY PRESENTING REASONABLE NUMBER OF THINGS. AND THEN, MAYBE RECOGNIZING A LARGER GROUP THAT WOULD NOT BE FORMALLY PROCLAIMED.
BUT TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER BRIER, WOULD BE RECOGNIZED AND NOT GO OVERBOARD AND DILUTE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THEM.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT. I'LL TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL DIRECTION YOU HAVE ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT.
>> SO WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS -- LET'S SAY IT DOESN'T MAKE IT TO THE TOP 25. AND THERE IS A GROUP IN THE CITY THAT HAS, LET'S SAY, I'LL BRING UP THE AUTISM SOCIETY.
LET'S SAY THEY HAVE A CHAPTER IN THE CITY OF PARKLAND, BUT WE ALREADY RECOGNIZED AUTISM AWARENESS DAY -- OR MAYBE IT DIDN'T MAKE IT FOR THE REST: LIST -- IS THERE A PROCESS? AND MAYBE I'M GOING DOWN A DIFFERENT PATHWAY, BUT A PROCESS WHERE A GROUP LIKE THAT, WHETHER IT BE NONPROFITABLE ABLE -- COULD COME AND FILL OUT A FORM.
AND THEN, IF IT'S FAR ENOUGH IN ADVANCE -- WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT HERE, BUT WE COULD GO THERE. TAKE A PRESENTATION AT THEIR MEETING OR WHATEVER MAYBE? OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES? AS I BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT IT, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS A RIBBON-CUTTING TOMORROW. WHETHER IT'S A GRAND OPENING OR NOT -- TIE THAT BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP IN.
SOMETIMES I'VE SEEN IT WHETHER IT'S THE COUNTY, OR CHRISTINE COMES AND SAYS HERE'S A PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY. HERE'S A PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF THE STATE. WE JUST WANT TO WISH YOU LUCK.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME HERE. BUT IF THE RIBBON-CUTTING, WE
GIVE THEM THAT. >> TO YOUR POINT, I THINK WITH ARTHUR MURRAY'S, WE SET THE PRECEDENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT AT NEW BUSINESSES AND RIBBON-CUTTING'S FACET SO FOR A NEW BUSINESS AND RIBBON-CUTTING, THAT'S GOING TO BE PROTOCOL, SO TO SPEAK. IN MY OPINION, AS FAR AS IF SOMEBODY WANTS US TO DO A PROCLAMATION? I THINK THAT'S FINE. BUT AGAIN, FOR ME, I WOULD JUST
BE LEERY OF WATERING DOWN --. I >> I AGREE WITH YOU.
-- --. >> THAT CAN BE AS SIMPLE AS THEM GIVING US THE INFORMATION. WE WOULD THEN PUT IT IN THE QUEUE TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSION AT NEXT YEAR'S STRATEGIC PLANNING. SO THE NEXT STRATEGIC PLANNING, THAT IS THIS YEAR, WE WOULD HAVE A LARGE LIST OF THINGS TO CONSIDER. YOU DECIDE BUT THAT GROUP IS GOING TO BE. AND THAT'S IT.
IT'S LOCKED IN. IF REQUESTS COME IN AFTER THAT, THOSE GET PUT IN THE QUEUE TO GET CONSIDERED BY THE
COMMISSION NEXT YEAR. >> I THINK THE ISSUES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, BOB, WE WOULD DO ON AN AD HOC BASIS.
AS WE HAVE BEEN DOING. WE DID ONE FOR PARKLAND CARES.
BUT I VIEW THOSE HAS DIFFERENT NEEDS.
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THESE ARE SORT OF SET PROCLAMATIONS FOR THE YEAR.AND IF ANY ADDITIONAL ISSUES COME UP, YOU MAY ADD OR
SUBTRACT. >> WHAT I WOULD WANT TO DO, IF POSSIBLE, TO MAKE SURE NOTHING IS SLIPPING THROUGH THE CRACKS IS TO GET THEM ALL OUT. AND WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE YEAR LOOKS LIKE. THINGS THAT WE ARE RECOGNIZING IS NATIONAL SUCH AND SUCH MONTH -- THEY DON'T COME UP IN JULY OR SEPTEMBER. THEY ARE KNOWN IN ADVANCE.
IF YOU AVE THAT COMPREHENSIVE LIST AND YOU CAN MAKE THE DETERMINATION, WE CAN DECIDE WHAT CAN BE DONE AT THE MEETING OR AN EVENT. ONE AT THE MEETINGS ARE READ INTO THE RECORD. THAT'S A HIGHER BAR.
BUT I LIKE TO GET A PROCESS DOWN SO THE GUESSWORK IS TAKEN
OUT. >> I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO DO. AND I THINK TO COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN'S POINT, TO HAVE A PROCESS.
SO WE COULD DEVELOP SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THE NAMING OF THE BUILDING. IF PEOPLE WANT RECOGNITION OR PROCLAMATION, MAYBE WE COULD COME TO SOME SORT OF FORM.
TO COMMISSIONER BRIER'S POINT, AT LAST YEAR'S STRATEGIC PLANNING, I THINK WE SAID FOR ALL OF OUR HOMEGROWN PARKLAND CHARITIES, WE WOULD DO A RECOGNITION OR PROCLAMATION AT ONE OF THEIR MAIN --. SO WE DID LORI'S TENNIS EVENT.
WE DID MAKE OUR SCHOOLS SAY. AND I THINK WE WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING AROUND JEAN AT (NAME)'S EASTER EGG THING.
BUT IT WAS GOING TO BE MORE FOR OUR HOMETOWN CHARITIES.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO TIE INTO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY OR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WORK HARD? I THINK IT'S GREAT. WE JUST HAVE THEM FILL OUT A FORM. WHETHER IT'S ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR, OR IF WE JUST DO IT ONCE A YEAR AT STRATEGIC PLANNING.
AS LONG AS THEY FILL OUT THE FORM BY FEBRUARY OR MARCH FIRST OF THE PRECEDING YEAR, THEY CAN GET ON THE LIST OF STRATEGIC PLANNING. THEN WE CAN DECIDE MAYBE WILL GO THERE. AND IF IT'S A CHARITY YOU ARE FOND OF -- AND IF YOU WANT TO GO THERE, HOWEVER THAT PROCESS IS FINALIZED, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
>> I THINK WE ARE MIXING TWO ISSUES.
WE STARTED OFF TALKING ABOUT HOLIDAYS AND NOW WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT EVENTS. >> I THINK IT'S JUST PROCLAMATIONS -- YES. YOU ARE CORRECT.
WE ARE MIXING THINGS. BUT IT'S STILL THE SAME.
I THINK WE ARE MIXING PROCLAMATION AS OPPOSED TO --.
>> WHAT IS OUR CURRENT PROCESS OF PROCLAMATIONS.
PUT ASIDE THE NATIONAL DAYS. BUT T IS PRETTY CONVOLUTED, WHICH IS WHAT BROUGHT ME HERE TODAY.
TRYING TO STREAMLINE THIS. IF WE GET SOMEBODY MAKES A REQUEST, WE WILL START RUNNING IT THROUGH THE PIPELINE.
SEE IF ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE IN IN FAVOR.
AND I THINK PUT YOU GUYS IN AN AWKWARD CIRCUMSTANCE.
YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY NO TO ANYONE.
IN A NUMBER OF THESE THINGS ARE GREAT CAUSES AND WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION. IT'S NOT ABOUT THEM BEING WORTHY CAUSES. IT'S ABOUT WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR OUR CITY WITHOUT DILUTING THE SIGNIFICANCE.
WHERE WE DID START TO MIX HIS WITH THE NEW BUSINESS.
THERE IS A NEW BUSINESS RECOGNITION AT YOUR RIBBON-CUTTING TOMORROW. YOU HAVE A PLAQUE THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO HANG ON THE WALL LIKE ARTHUR MURRAY.
SO THAT NEW BUSINESS WELCOME IS STATIC FOR THE NEW BUSINESS.
THE PROCLAMATIONS, THERE WILL BE THOSE DONE HERE IN THE CHAMBER, ON THE RECORD AND COMMISSION MEETING.
THE OTHERS THAT ARE DONE AT THE MARQUEE EVENT FOR WHATEVER THAT CHARITY IS, THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS SO WE CAN BE SURE WE HAVE THOSE ON OUR LIST AND THEY ARE TAKEN CARE OF WELL IN ADVANCE. THERE'S NO SCRAMBLING AT THE
LAST MINUTE. >> SO WE NEED TO ESTABLISH NOT JUST THE PROCESS BUT A CRITERIA TO JUDGE WHETHER SOMETHING FITS
WITHIN OUR DECISION? >> I THINK WHAT TODD WAS SUGGESTING -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG -- YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE US A LIST OF PROCLAMATIONS. THIS WILL HAPPEN EVERY YEAR AT STRATEGIC PLANNING. TODD WILL GIVE US A LIST OF WHAT HE DEEMS TO BE THE PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE WILL READ HERE. THERE WILL BE FURTHER LIST OF CHARITIES, ORGANIZATIONS, DAYS -- WHATEVER -- THAT WE WILL FORMALLY RECOGNIZE JUST AS A LIST AS A WHOLE.
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THEN, WE WILL COME UP WITH A PROCESS FOR OTHER PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WANT SPECIFIC PROCLAMATIONS THAT -- I'M JUST THROWING OUT MARCH 1 FOR NOW, BY MARCH 1, YOU FILL OUT THE FORM LIKE YOU DO WITH THE NAMING OF THE BUILDINGS.AND THEN, THE NEXT STRATEGIC PLANNING WILL VET THOSE AT THE STRATEGIC PLANNING AND SAY OKAY, ADD THIS TO THE PROCLAMATION THAT WILL READ AT THE MEETING, OR ADD THIS TO THE RECOGNITION LIST. SO AT LEAST THERE WILL BE A LIST ON RECORD THAT WE RECOGNIZE -- WHATEVER DAYS, MONTHS, WHATEVER THEY ARE. AND THEN, THERE WILL BE A SHORTER LIST WHERE WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE PROCLAMATIONS HERE. AND THERE WOULD BE A SHORTER LIST OF POTENTIAL PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE MAY GO OUT OR HAVE SOMEBODY COME HERE . AND MAYBE DO A COUPLE OF TIMES
BUT I THINK WERE MORE THAN LIKELY TO HAVE PROCLAMATIONS OF ACHIEVEMENTS AND RECOGNITIONS. THE HOLIDAYS IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF ANIMAL. BECAUSE THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THEM. SO FOR US TO TRY TO PINPOINT WHICH ONE -- SO SOMETHING LIKE WITH CRITERIA THAT'S BASED ON OUR MISSIONS AND VALUES.WHAT PARKLAND STANDS FOR.
OR WHERE THESE HOLIDAYS ARE COMING FROM, SINCE WE ARE NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED. IF NOT, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT -- KEY LIME PIE DAY? OR LEMON MERINGUE PIE? I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DAY.
AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO ESTABLISH --?
>> HOW IS THAT GOING TO MAKE A LIST OF OUR RECOGNIZE LIST? NOT NECESSARILY GETTING ON THE PROCLAMATION LIST TO BE READ HERE, BUT IT BE ON THE RECOGNIZED LIST? SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GO TO THE WEBSITE AND SEE OUR RECOGNIZE HOLIDAYS OR WHATEVER -- THE RECOGNITIONS THAT WE DO FOR -- LIKE DIVISION CHAMPIONS IN SOCCER -- THOSE WILL REMAIN THE SAME BECAUSE THOSE ARE MORE CURRENT.
SOCCER JUST WON THE DISTRICT TITLE.
SO WE JUST FOLLOW -- WE ARE GOING TO FOLLOW THEM --
THOSE ARE MORE ORGANIC. THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO FIGURE OUT THE PROCESS FOR THOSE.
WHERE WHEN THERE IS A RIBBON-CUTTING, WE WILL GO TO THE RIVER -CUTTING AND GIVE THEM A PLAQUE.
ANY BUSINESS THAT HAS A RIBBON-CUTTING WILL AUTOMATICALLY GET THAT. AND THE PROCLAMATIONS WILL BE A LIST OF WHATEVER YOU GIVE US. AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT FURTHER. LIKE ADD THIS, I DON'T SEE THIS. ADD THIS, ADD THAT.
NOW WE WILL SET UP SOME SORT OF FORM THAT PEOPLE CAN FILL OUT.
AND IT WOULD BE FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
TO GET ADDED TO OUR RECOGNITION LIST OR OUR PROCLAMATION.
AND THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DECIDE ON THE NEXT STRATEGIC
PLANNING. >> THERE ARE TWO FORMS OF RECOGNITION. ONE IS RECOGNIZING STUDENTS FOR THEIR ACADEMIC OR ATHLETIC ACHIEVEMENTS.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN HERE.
FOR THE CAUSES THAT COULD BE UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR A PROCLAMATION, WHETHER FORMAL OR GIVEN OUT AT THEIR EVENT, THAT WE MAY NOT DECIDE TO DO, WE COULD STILL RECOGNIZE THAT BECAUSE ON OUR WEBSITE, IN A LIST.
NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE RECOGNIZED ANYWHERE ELSE.
(INDISCERNIBLE). >> IS EVERYONE GOOD WITH THIS?
>> YEAH. SO I'M GOING TO COME TO YOU AT STRATEGIC PLANNING WITH THE LIST.
A BIG BOY LIST, A SMALLER LIST, YOU MAKE THE DECISIONS.
[4B. Parkside Drive Swales]
NOTHING FALLS THROUGH THE CRACKS.AFTER WE COME AWAY FROM STRATEGIC PLANNING, WE ARE SET IN STONE, EXCEPT FOR THOSE EMERGENCY -- IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION ONES, WHICH WE WILL HANDLE ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. BECAUSE THEY HAPPEN INFREQUENTLY. ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES IN THAT COULD HAVE BEEN KNOWN WELL IN ADVANCE, WE COULD GIVE TO CONSIDERATION OF ADDING IT TO THE LIST FOR NEXT YEAR'S
STRATEGIC PLANNING. >> SOUNDS GREAT.
THANKS, TODD. SO NEXT WE HAVE THE PARKSIDE DRIVE SWALES. HOPEFULLY, WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME
(LAUGHING)! >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
SABRINA (NAME). >> BRIAN (NAME).
>> (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE) SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PARKSIDE DRIVE SWALES.
BRING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY.
AND THEN, (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE).
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SO TODAY'S AGENDA, WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CHALLENGES (INDISCERNIBLE). WE HAVE PICTURES TO SHOW (INDISCERNIBLE) FOR THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON. (INDISCERNIBLE) AND THEN, WE WILL GO OVER OPTIONS. THINGS WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO ON SOUTH SIDE OF PARKSIDE DRIVE.IN ONE OPTION ON THE NORTH SIDE.
SO PARKSIDE DRIVE SWALES. THE MAIN CHALLENGE IS WE HAVE THE PARENTS AND DROP OFF AND PICK UP TIMES FOR SCHOOL.
WE HAVE PARENTS PARKING ON THIS WHEELS.
TEARING IT UP. (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE) MAKE A U-TURN AND GO INTO THE SIDEWALK.
AND WE HAVE THE AESTHETICS, WHICH IS NOT LOOKING GOOD.
AND DURING A (INDISCERNIBLE) RAIN EVENT, (INDISCERNIBLE) FLOODED (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE). SO THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW FROM THE AREA. THIS WAS RIGHT BEFORE PICKUP TIME. AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU HAVE PEOPLE PARKED ON THE SWALES. IT ALSOCREATES A DOUBLING
(INDISCERNIBLE). >> THIS IS LOOKING GOING NORTH,
CORRECTLY. >> THIS IS LOOKING NORTH BUT FROM THE SOUTH SIDE.THIS IS THE ONLY PORTION (INDISCERNIBLE) THE PICKUP LANE IS ON YOUR LEFT FROM THE SOUTH SIDE. THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW SHOWING WHERE THE SCHOOL IS. IF YOU SEE, THE PICKUP LINE CONTINUES. THE FIRST DRIVEWAY IS ONLY FOR THE BUS LANES. THE ONES TO THE RIGHT.
THAT'S ONLY FOR THE BUSES TO COME IN.
(INDISCERNIBLE). AND THE SECOND DRIVEWAY IS WHERE CARS WILL GO IN (INDISCERNIBLE).
THIS IS WHAT THE SWALES LOOK LIKE BEFORE PUBLIC WORKS DID A TEMPORARY FIX OF (INDISCERNIBLE) MATERIAL.
(INDISCERNIBLE). WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AN INGROUND PICTURE OF WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE PICKUP TIME AND THE DOUBLE STACKING. YOU CAN SEE CARS PRETTY MUCH GOING TO THE SIDEWALK. (INDISCERNIBLE).
AND ONCE THEY PICK UP THE KIDS, (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE) AND SO ON. THIS IS ON THE PORTION OF THE (INDISCERNIBLE), NORTH SIDE OF THE SCHOOL.
RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE -- THE DEVELOPMENT PUT IN A CAUTION TAPE NOT ALLOWING CARS TO PARK. THE CARS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO STAGGER ON THAT PORTION ANYMORE.
(INDISCERNIBLE) CREATING A LOT OF TRAFFIC ISSUES.
ALSO ON THE NORTH SIDE WITH THE CAUTION TAPE (INDISCERNIBLE).
SO WHAT HAS BEEN DONE SO FAR? PUBLIC WORKS STAFF HAS (INDISCERNIBLE) AND EAST SIDE SWALE (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE) AND THEY ALSO DID A LITTLE AREA ON THE WEST SIDE (INDISCERNIBLE). SO THIS IS HOW IT LOOKS NOW.
OPTION ONE IS TO CONTINUE HOW WE ARE DOING (INDISCERNIBLE).
AND PROBABLY ADDING ADDITIONAL FENCE, JUST ALLOWING FOR A LITTLE SEPARATION. BUT THE TYPE OF FENCE ISN'T REALLY PROTECTING ANYBODY (INDISCERNIBLE).LSO, IT DOES NOT ALLOW DESK WITH THE KIDS WALKING TO THE CARS THAT ARE PARKED, (INDISCERNIBLE) TO JUMP THE FENCE.
IT DOESN'T ALLOW MUCH MOVEMENT IN AND OUT OF (INDISCERNIBLE).
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SOME OF THE CONS ARE THE REQUIRED MAINTENANCE.THIS WAS JUST LAST WEEK, RIGHT AFTER A RAIN EVENT.
WE REPLACED THE MATERIALS AND DECEMBER.
RIGHT NOW IF YOU GO BY, YOU WILL SEE WE HAVE (INDISCERNIBLE) MATERIALS (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE) SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO MAINTENANCE (INDISCERNIBLE).
WHEN WE PUT IT, IT'S COMPACTED. BUT WITH THE USE AND EVERYTHING (INDISCERNIBLE). THE FIRST PICTURE, YOU CAN SEE GOING INTO THE SIDEWALK AND THERE IS ACTUALLY A DRAIN YOU HAVE. (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM
MICROPHONE). >> DOING BLACKTOP WOULD POTENTIALLY CAUSE A BIGGER DRAINAGE ISSUE?
>> LIKE (INDISCERNIBLE) PAVEMENT?
>> YET. >> THAT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO THERE, YOU'D HAVE TO PUT THE DRAINAGE STRUCTURES (INDISCERNIBLE). SO THE CONS AGAIN, IT REQUIRES MAINTENANCE.IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR DRAINAGE (INDISCERNIBLE).
AESTHETICALLY -- IT LOOKS GOOD THE FIRST DAY OR A COUPLE OF DAYS. AFTER THAT, (INDISCERNIBLE).
>> HOW ABOUT FOR THE MATERIAL? >> FOR THE MATERIAL, FOR THE MILLING INSTALLATION (INDISCERNIBLE).
SO THAT'S HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST, 53,000.
>> OKAY. >> BUT THAT'S JUST FOR THE INITIAL INSTALLATION? THAT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT MAINTENANCE OR EVERY TIME IT RAINS.
>> ASSUMES 7000 EVERY THREE MONTHS?
>> EVERY THREE MONTHS. >> I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS: ONE, FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT, IF YOU WERE TO SEE PEOPLE PARKING HERE, IS THAT A TRAFFIC VIOLATION? IS THIS WHAT WE ARE PERMITTING? OR HAS IT JUST BECOME SO OVER THE NORM THAT WE JUST DON'T EVEN ENFORCE IT?
>> (NAME) FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
I WANTED TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY ALMOND DAY!
>> YOU ARE NUTS! >> THERE IS SOMEONE HERE WITH ALLERGIES!
[LAUGHTER] >> A WE HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT HAS CAUSED THIS PROBLEM INITIALLY.
IN 90 (INDISCERNIBLE) THEY BUILT THE SCHOOL.
A LOT OF TRAFFIC BACK THEN, BUT NOT LIKE IT IS NOW.
AT SOME POINT, WE DROP THE TWO-STORY BUILDING ON THAT PROPERTY BUT NOT INCREASING THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO IN A SENSE, WE ALL CAUSED THIS PROBLEM.
YES, WE HAVE ENFORCEMENT. IT'S 100 PERCENT OR NOTHING.
AND DO WE CITE THE FIRST CAR BLOCKING AND EVERY CAR AFTER THAT? WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM.
-- -- UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN EDUCATE AND WE CAN ENFORCE.
IF YOU HAVE EVER DRIVEN DOWN THERE, YOU WOULD SAY -- I WANT TO KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING, FROM AN ORGANIZATIONAL STANDPOINT, HAVE WE CREATED THIS PROBLEM? AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DID. AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE NOT ENFORCING -- PEOPLE PARKING WHERE THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE. BUT I GUESS WE ARE PAST THAT POINT IF WE CAN PUT THE CAP BACK IN THE BAG?
>> (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE) ANOTHER BUILDING
BUILT ON THAT PROPERTY --. >> GOT IT.
>> (INDISCERNIBLE).>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR.
TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION AND SEE WHAT YOU ARE FEELING -- OPINION, THE SCHOOL BOARD IS GOING TO SAY THIS IS YOUR
PROPERTY. >> IT COULD BE SOLVED A NUMBER OF WAYS. IF WE GET TO THE HEART OF THE PROBLEM, IT'S THAT WE'VE GOT WAY TOO MANY PARENTS WITH FREE TIME ON THEIR HANDS. SOME OF THEM WORKING FROM HOME.
YOU CAN SIT IN A TRAFFIC LANE FOR AN HOUR OR HOUR AND AND A HALF BEFORE THE KIDS GET OUT OF SCHOOL.
THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM. THERE ARE A COUPLE QUESTIONS I HAVE. AND WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. ONE IS STAGGER A PICKUP SCHEDULE. I KNOW SUMMER ACADEMY DOES IT IN AN EFFORT TO TRY TO AVOID CONGESTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE SCHOOL BOARD COULD DO THAT.
>> THE SOMERSET STAGGER IS -- >> THE OTHER QUESTION IS CAN WE USE ANY OF THAT PARKING AREA? TO CAPTAIN (NAME)'S POINT?
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WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS BUILT, IT WAS PRIMARILY CYPRESS HEAD AND PANTRY KIDS GOING THERE. MANY WERE WALKING OR RIDING THEIR BIKES. IT WASN'T ANYWHERE FAR AWAY.SO THE QUESTION IS, CAN WE USE THEIR PARKING AREA SIMILAR TO WHAT WESTGLADES HAVE? WERE THEY HAVE DOUBLE LANES WHERE THE CARS CAN PARK AND DO A LOOP IN AND OUT OF THERE? I DON'T KNOW?> AND AGAIN, JUST KNOWING HOW(INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE) . THEY MIGHT HAVE A LOOP (INDISCERNIBLE) SOMEHOW. DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ENOUGH ROOM WITHIN THEIR PROPERTY. BUT I FEEL LIKE (INDISCERNIBLE)
(AWAY FROM MICROPHONE). >> I DON'T KNOW FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT. I KNOW THERE IS A LARGE SWALE AREA IN THE FRONT AREA, WHERE THE ACTUAL PARKING IS FOR THE SCHOOL. WHERE THE SIGN IS.
THERE IS A LARGE GRASS BASE THAT IS THERE THAT IS NOT USED FOR PARKING. SO THERE IS ROOM THERE.
AND WHEN NANCY WAS TALKING TO ME ABOUT THIS, I WENT ON GOOGLE EARTH AND I WENT TO THE LAYOUT OF THE PROPERTY.
THERE IS A BIG SPACE IN THE BACK.'M THINKING THE KIDS ARE USING THAT FOR PLAYING BALL AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT MAYBE THERE IS SOME PART OF THAT THAT CAN ALSO BE TAKEN TO MAKE MORE TRAVEL LANES ON THE ACTUAL SCHOOL PROPERTY.
SO THAT BRINGS CARS OUT OF THE PROBATE AREA AND MAY BE HELPS
WITH EQUITY. >> THAT AREA IS A LOOP FOR THE BUS LANE.
>> COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN? >> THERE ARE MULTIPLE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON HERE. NUMBER 1, CARS AREN'T EVEN ALLOWED IN UNTIL A STORM: CERTAIN TIME PERIOD.
THAT'S WHY THEY ARE STACKED UP ON THE STREETS.
NUMBER 2 IS EVEN IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT STACKING, I STILL DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HELP. IT MAY MITIGATE A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT THE INITIAL PROCESS OF THESE CAR SITTING IN PARKING.
EVEN WHEN THEY HAD SCHOOL EVENTS, THOSE CARS ARE PERKING ALL UP AND DOWN THE STREET. IT'S AN ISSUE THAT I GO BACK AND LOOK AT, A, IS THIS A FACT? A HAZARDOUS WALKING CONDITION? IS IT SOMETHING WE COULD WORK WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD TO HELP FACILITATE SOME SORT OF FUNDING TO MITIGATE THE PROCESS? AS WELL AS I KNOW THAT (NAME) WAS DOING A STUDY THIS YEAR TO LOOK AT THE OTHER PART OF THIS PROCESS.
THE BUS LOOP OR TRANSPORTATION WAS ELIMINATED TO ABOUT 150 FAMILIES (INDISCERNIBLE) OPENED UP.
SO WHETHER OR NOT THIS GETS BACK TO TAKING A LOOK AT THE STUDY WHENEVER IT'S DONE, AND SEEING IF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TURN AROUND AND BUS ALL THOSE KIDS.
BUT I THINK SOME SORT OF WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD WILL STOP LIKE COMMISSIONER BREYER SAID, WHETHER IT'S A STAGGER DROP OFF OR SOMETHING TO HELP MITIGATE THIS.
I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD FALL ON OUR SHOULDERS.
>> WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE.
(INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE) SHE ALLOWS CARS IN EARLY, BUT SHE IS NOT ALLOWED TO OPEN THE GATE TO LET THEM OUT UNTIL 2:00. THAT'S THE SCHOOL BOARD RULE.
AND WE ARE FINDING THIS YEAR THAT ALL THE BUSES WILL HELP BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT SENDING THEIR KIDS ON BUSES.
THAT'S A CHALLENGE WE'RE HAVING THIS YEAR.
IT MIGHT NOT BE A CHALLENGE NEXT YEAR.
>> YOU HAVE TWO CHALLENGES WITH THAT.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE DON'T WANT THE KIDS TO GO ON THE BUS BECAUSE OF SCHOOL, AND THE SCHOOL BOARD DOESN'THAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
>> AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WORKING FROM HOME NOW.
WITH THE ABILITY OF BEING ON THEIR MOBILE HOME, SITTING IN THEIR CAR FOR AN HOUR, WAITING FOR THEIR KIDS TO GET OUT OF SCHOOL. WHICH THEY COULDN'T DO LAST
YEAR OR TWO YEARS AGO. >> I AGREE.
I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MAYERSOHN AND COMMISSIONER BRIER. WE SHOULD TRY TO TALK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. BUT LET'S BE HONEST -- THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO CORRECT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
AND THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR THE CITY OF PARKLAND.
WHETHER IT'S COMING UP WITH SUGGESTIONS OR IDEAS, AND APPROACHING THE SCHOOL BOARD WITH "HERE'S WHAT WE COME UP WITH. IT'S GOING TO COST US X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS. " AND HAVE THEM HELP FUND THE PILE CT. BECAUSE THAT SOMETHING IS GOING TO TAKE -- THE TIMING FOR US -- THIS HAS BECOME A BIG ISSUE.
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AND THIS IS SOMETHING THE CITY OF PARKLAND NEEDS TO FIX.>> OTHER THAN WESTGLADES, IT'S THE ONLY SCHOOL IN THE CITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A FOUR LANE ROAD LEADING INTO IT.
WESTGLADES HAS A SINGLE LANE ROAD ON HOLMBERG, BUT IT HAS A DOUBLING LOOP WITHIN THE SCHOOL GROUNDS.
SO OTHER THAN WESTGLADES, THIS IS THE ONLY AREA WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE FOUR LANES. SO YOU DON'T HAVE AN EXTRA LANE, SO PEOPLE ARE CLOGGING UP.
THIS HAPPENS TO ALL OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
PARK TRAILS -- IT HAS THE PARKING LOT, BUT IT'S ALSO TWO LANES. SO IT CAN HAVE ONE LANE OF CARS SITTING THERE WAITING, AND IT'S NOT AN ISSUE BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN GET AROUND.
THING. YOU WILL SEE CARS LOOPING UP FROM CORAL RIDGE --.
THE WAY UP PINE TRAILS AND WALK THEIR KIDS ACROSS THE STREET.
>> MY NAME IS PAUL O'CONNELL, OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISOR.
A COUPLE OF POINTS. COMMISSIONER ISROW, THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM CREATED BY THE CITY OF PARKLAND.HIS IS A PROBLEM CREATED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD. AS CAPTAIN MENTIONED, WHEN THEY EXPANDED THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS FOR THAT SCHOOL, THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY INFRASTRUCTURE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
THAT'S ISSUE ONE. ISSUE TWO IS PARKSIDE IS TWO LANES. WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY THAT WE HAVE AT THE OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
THE SAME ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AROUND THE CORNER, WESTVIEW OR RIVERSIDE. WE DON'T HAVE A FOUR LANE LUXURY. SO I THINK GOING TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE HAVE A NEW SUPERINTENDENT, HOPEFULLY, WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE RECEPTIVE TO THE ISSUES THAT ARE PERSONAL TO US ONE, THE IDEA OF STAGGERING IF POSSIBLE. TWO, THE FIRST HALF-HOUR OF AFTERCARE IS FREE OF CHARGE. SO THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT INCENTIVIZED BY I'M GOING TO SAVE X NUMBER OF DOLLARS BY PICKING UP MY CHILD BEFORE AFTERCARE COSTS KICK IN.'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF THESE PARENTS -- WHO SIT OUT THERE FOR AN HOUR -- AN HOUR AND 1/2? QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T GET IT. DON'T GET IT.
IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME WHY A PARENT WOULD SIT OUT THERE FOR THAT LENGTH OF TIME CONTRIBUTING TO CARBON
FOOTPRINT -- AND WHY? >> BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO WAIT IN LINE FOR A LONG TIME (LAUGHING).
>> (INDISCERNIBLE). >> THEY AREN'T.
THEY ARE ACTUALLY NOT WAITING IN LINE.
THERE WAITING THERE BEFORE THE LINE STARTS! YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THIS THE RIGHT WAY!
[LAUGHTER] >> NANCY, THIS IS WHAT I SAID YOU EARLIER -- WE ARE TRYING TO FIND A LOGICAL SOLUTION TO AN ILLOGICAL PROBLEM. THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
>> IT DOESN'T. >> IT IS COVID, IT IS REMOVING THE BUSSING OF THE KIDS, IT IS PARENTS WORKING FROM HOME AND HAVING MORE FREE TIME. AND IT'S ALSO BECAUSE OF CELL PHONES. THEY CAN SIT AND BE AS RESPONSIVE WITH THEIR PERSONAL LIFE OR THEIR BUSINESS LIFE ON THEIR CELL PHONE FROM THE CAR. SO THEY FIGURE I'LL GET THERE AT 1:00 AND WAIT AN HOUR. YOU'RE RIGHT.
IT'S AN ILLOGICAL PROBLEM BUT IT'S A PROBLEM WE DEAL WITH ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO GO AWAY ANYTIME SOON. SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT.
>> OF WHAT COMMISSIONER BRIER SAID -- IT'S OUR PROBLEM THAT WE NEED TO FIX. WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. THAT'S NOT SAYING NOT INVOLVE THE SCHOOL BOARD SUPERINTENDENT, BUT REGARDLESS OF WHAT HELP WE GET FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO FIX A PROBLEM. WE ARE PROBABLY, MAYBE, EVEN MAKING IT WORSE. AND IF WE WEREN'T TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION -- AND THANKFULLY WE ARE.
TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. AND JUST BECAUSE WE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T ATTACK IT FROM THIS POINT, AND THIS POINT, AND THIS POINT AS WELL.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM FROM OUR SIDE, AS FAR AS PARKSIDE DRIVE.
>> HAVE THE PARENTS DRIVE GOLF CARTS!
>> WHY DON'T WE CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION, BECAUSE SHE
HAS SOME OPTIONS. >> SO STAGGER RELEASE.
INCREASE THE BUS AVAILABILITY -- TRANSPORTATION.
THAT'S COMPOUNDED BY THE FACT THERE ARE NO BUS DRIVERS.
AND THE FIRST HALF-HOUR OF AFTERCARE IS FREE.
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>> I'M SURE THAT IS A COUNTYWIDE THING.
AND IF YOU START CHARGING IN THAT HALF-HOUR, YOU ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTING PARENTS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY NOT AFFORD IT. I GET IT.
IT'S A GOOD IDEA. IT'S PROBABLY NOT A PARKLAND ISSUE. BUT TO ME, I CAN SEE THAT AS BEING --
>> MR. MAYOR, I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT.
THE MONEY ISN'T THE ISSUE. >> IT'S JUST PARENTS WANT TO GET THERE BECAUSE -- AND TO COMMISSIONER BRIER'S POINT.
NOW YOU CAN WORK ON YOUR PHONE. YOU CAN SIT IN YOUR CAR AND YOU
CAN STILL DO YOUR JOB. >> BUT EVEN IF WE STAGGER THE PICKUP, BECAUSE THERE IS NOWHERE FOR PARENTS TO PULL INTO THE SCHOOL, INEVITABLY THERE WILL BE STACKING.
X AND STAGGERING THE PICKUP WHEN EVERYONE IS RELEASED AT THE SAME TIME IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO DO.
BECAUSE IF I TELL YOU TO COME AT 3:15 AND SOMEBODY ELSE COME AT 3:30, AND A COME WHEN I WANT TO.
BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL NOT GOING TO RELEASE MY KID.
SO I GOT IT -- IN THEORY, THAT MIGHT MAKE SOME SENSE.
BUT NOW YOU WILL HAVE KIDS STAYING THERE LONGER.
AND THE PARENTS WILL BE LIKE WHY DOES MY KID HAVE TO WAIT 15 MINUTES? THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT OR DISCUSS IT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD.
BUT AS A PARKLAND PARENT, I GET IT.
IF MY KID IS RELEASED AT 2:05 --
>> I THINK THE STAGGERING -- THEIR ACTUAL SCHOOL DAY IS
STAGGER. >> THERE ARE SCHOOLS THAT DO THAT. AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE BUS ROUTES CROSSING OVER EACH OTHER AND YOU CAN USE THE SAME BUSES. THAT'S ONE IDEA TO PURSUE WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. A STAGGERED START.
KIDS THIRD, FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADE WOULD START AT 830 AND
I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. >> I GET YOU.
>> AND THAT'S NOT A SITUATION THAT WOULD EVEN REMOTELY HAPPEN WITHIN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS.
LET'S GO ON WITH THE PRESENTATION.
SORRY, NASI. JORDAN'S ONE WHO STARTED THE CONVERSATION FIRST!
[LAUGHTER] >> SO THE SECOND OPTION WE ARE PROPOSING IS (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE).
SIGN WITH THE SWALE IN THE SUN ON IT.
YOU CREATE A GOOD BASE WITH ROCK.
YOU PUT (INDISCERNIBLE) AS REINFORCEMENT.
THAT WAY WHEN THEY COME IN, (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE). AND SOD ON TOP OF IT.
THE PROS FOR THAT IS (INDISCERNIBLE) SWALES (INDISCERNIBLE) DRAINAGE. (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE) REQUIRE MAINTENANCE. DURING THE HEAVY USE OF SCHOOL TIME, THE SIDE PROBABLY WILL LOOK LIKE THAT IN SOME AREAS -- (INDISCERNIBLE) TIME TO GROW. THE COST IS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN ON THE FIRST ONE. BUT AGAIN, MAINTENANCE WOULD BE A LOT LESS. AND THEN, OPTION THREE, WHICH WE THINK IS A MORE VIABLE (INDISCERNIBLE).
IT'S BASICALLY, LIKE YOU SAID, MAYOR, IT'S WIDENING THE ROAD (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE).
IN THE CURB WOULD BE PROTECTING THE PEDESTRIANS AND WOULD NOT REQUIRE (INDISCERNIBLE). OPTION FOR, ON THE NORTH SIDE.
THE ISSUE THE COMMUNITY HAVING IS GETTING INTO THE SWALES AND
(INDISCERNIBLE). >> THE ONE NEGATIVE WITH THAT
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ONE IS (INDISCERNIBLE) SOMEONE HAD A FLAT TIRE, OR WHATEVER -->> OPTION THREE, WAS THAT THE WHOLE PARKSIDE DRIVE?
OR JUST THE NORTH END? >> THAT IS JUST FOR THE SOUTH
OR IS IT SOUTH OF BECKLEY. >> OPTION THREE? THE COST IS -- IT GOES FROM --
>> (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE). >> COMMISSIONER ISROW?
>> TWO THINGS. DID YOU GUYS LOOK AT GRASS CREEK? A COMBINATION OF GRASS AND PAVERS. IT ALLOWS WATER TO PERCOLATE BUT NOT FULL GRASS. SO YOU REDUCE THE SKIDDING AND
ALL OF BECKLEY. >> WE COULD ALSO HAVE AN OPTION CALLED TURF PAVERS (INDISCERNIBLE).
>> BUT THAT COST IS PROBABLY THE SAME AS --
>> IT WOULD BE A LITTLE LESS THAN THE PAVEMENT, BUT IT WOULD BE PROBABLY HIGHER TO (INDISCERNIBLE).
>> AND THE SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE MORE FOR NANCY -- BUT THIS CONSTITUTE AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT UNDER A
IPA? >> WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE TOOK THE MONEY. IT'S LOST REVENUE ANYWAY.
AND WE CAN SPEND THAT MONEY HOWEVER.
>> (INDISCERNIBLE) FROM ARPA THAT WE HADEARMARKED .
>> OKAY. WHAT ABOUT THE PETTY TAX
TRANSPORTATION? >> EVERYTHING COMES IN THE GENERAL FUND AS GENERAL REVENUE.
SO WE ALLOCATED ACCORDINGLY. >> BRIGHT.
AND IF YOU WANTED TO DO A (INDISCERNIBLE) YOU WOULD HAVE
TO APPLY FOR THAT? >> I'M JUST SAYING, WOULD BE A HEFTY COST? WE COULD GO BACK TO OPTION ONE? I KNOW WE ARE TRYING TO GET AN IMMEDIATE FIX. AND SOME OF THESE FIXES, WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT $1.2 MILLION, OUR LONG-TERM FIXES.
IS THERE A MIDDLE GROUND BETWEEN OPTION ONE AND THE CURBING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS? THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUE.
IT MAY ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE ISSUE AS WELL, BUT IT STILL KEEPS THE COST MINIMAL FOR NOW. AS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION.
RANTED IT MIGHT NOT BE THE LONG-TERM BEST IDEA.N OTHER WORDS, WE KEEP ON PUTTING THE CRUSHED ROCK THERE.
MAYBE THERE IS SOME SORT OF CURB OR SOMETHING THAT LEADS UP TO THE FENCING AND THE SIDEWALK? SO YOUDON'T HAVE THE CRUSHED ROCK GOING OVER.
YOU DON'T HAVE CARS GOING INTO THE SIDEWALK AREA ?S THAT
POSSIBLE? >> ONCE YOU PUT THE CURB (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE) IT IS POSSIBLE, BUT (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE).
SO I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO -- I MEAN, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING WE NEED TO DISCUSS MORE AT STRATEGIC
>> I THINK, PERSONALLY, I THINK WE HAVE TO DO OPTION THREE.
HEN WE HAVE TO SEE IF WE CAN AFFORD IT.
AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IN THE MEANTIME? WE CAN TRY TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
>> YET. OR IS THERE SOME PARKING WE COULD PUT ON THE SITE? BECAUSE FOR OPTION THREE, YOU ARE MAKING A FOUR LANE ROAD AND THAT LITTLE SEGMENT.
THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
>> (AWAY FROMMICROPHONE) . >> BUT IT'S AS WHITE AS A CAR
(LAUGHING). >> IT'S THERE ALREADY.
HAVE. THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS WE DISCUSSED STRATEGIC PLANNING WHICH WE NEXT TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL PARKING LOT FOR (INDISCERNIBLE).
IS THAT STILL AN OPTION ON THE TABLE? I KNOW IT'S ASTRONOMICAL IN COST, BUT IS THAT AN OPTION?
>> NO, IT'S NOT. INITIALLY THERE WAS THAT PARCEL OF LAND WITH THE POWER LINES THAT THEY WANTED US TO ACQUIRE AND MAINTAIN. AND THAT WAS THE OPENING DOOR.
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AND THEN WE LOOKED AT HOW TO DO IT FOR THE PARK AND CONNECT TO THE BACK END OF THE SCHOOL. THEN FEBRUARY 14 OF 2018 HAPPENED. AND THEY STARTED TO SECURE ALL OF THEIR SCHOOL ENTRIES. AND THEY ARE SURE NOT GOING TOALLOW A BACKCOUNTRY. >> AGAIN, DISCUSSION WISE, IF THE BACK ENTRY IN THAT PARKING AREA CREATED 20 -- 25 SPOTS TO OPEN THAT UP AND ALLOW TO USE FOR STAFF PARKING TO CREATE A LOOP? CREATE A DOUBLE LOOP INSIDE MIGHT BE A POTENTIAL RELIEF. BUT I REMEMBER THE COST WAS LIKE -- I DON'T KNOW, WAY OUT OF BOUNDS FOR THE DESK OF THE COST OF PARKING SPACES ASTRONOMICAL.
>> ADDITIONALLY, THAT LAND IS BEEN SOLD --.
>> THAT LAND IS STILL OWNED BY THE LANDSCAPING COMPANY.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PARCEL OF LAND NEXT TO THE HOT BOD AND A
SPLIT --. >> THAT'S WHO WAS SOLD TO.
THE LANDSCAPING COMPANY.YAN HOLMES WAS THE OWNER.
>> BUT I THINK IT'S STILL WORTH KICKING THE TIRES ON, WITH THE LANDSCAPING COMPANY -- WHICH RIGHT NOW, THEY USE THE LAND NOT FOR THE BUSINESS OF GETTING CUSTOMERS IN AND OUT, BUT
STORING THINGS. >> IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE
BECAUSE I THINK THAT MAY BE A SOLUTION.
>> BUT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE AN ACCESS ISSUE BECAUSE YOU ARE COMING FROM THE BACK OF THE SCHOOL.
(INDISCERNIBLE). WE DID THE ANALYSIS BACK THEN.
THE REASON IT WAS SO HIGH WAS THE WORK YOU ARE DOING, YOU WERE GOING TO GET A LOT OF PARKING SPACES.
BECAUSEALSO THE WETLANDS (INDISCERNIBLE) IN THE BACK.
(AWAY FROM MICROPHONE) . >> BUT REGARDLESS TO SHOW AGAIN, (INDISCERNIBLE). THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE A PARKING PROBLEM, OR A PICKUP AND DROP-OFF PROBLEM? CLICK PICKUP AND DROP-OFF
PROBLEM. >> BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS -- AND AGAIN, I GO BACK TO CHIEF O'CONNELL, AND THAT MAY BE CHANGING THAT BEHAVIOR. WHERE PARENTS PARK.
THEY ARE NOT BLOCKING THE ROAD. YOU HAVE ANGLED PARKING.
AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S PARALLEL PARKING. SO YOU'D HAVE TO MOVE THE SIDEWALK OVER (INDISCERNIBLE). BUT HAVE ANGLED PARKING, CREATING MORE SPACE AND LETTING THE PARENTS GET OUT OF THE CAR AND PICK UP THEIR KID, AS OPPOSED TO BLOCKING THE STREET?
>> THAT'S WHAT THEY DO NOW. >> RIGHT NOW (INDISCERNIBLE).
YET PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PARK AND GET OUT.
YOU ALSO PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO GET OUT.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT ENFORCEMENT WISE --.
>> RUN THIS BY ME AGAIN? >> IF WE CREATED A PARKING AREA -- (INDISCERNIBLE) CROSS TALK]
>> ON THE WEST SIDE YOU CREATE ANGLED PARKING.
>> ON THE WEST SIDE, (INDISCERNIBLE) ROOM.
>> BUT THE OPTION TO CREATE THAT ANGLED PARKING.
>> OPTION THREE -- IN EVERYONE'S OPINION, IF WE DID OPTION THREE, AND WE CREATED THE NEW LANE, WOULD WE STILL BE HAVING THE SAME ISSUES DURING PICKUP AND DROP OFF?
>> YES. SO THIS OPTION THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS HOW FOR THE CITY TO PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY.
WE CAN REALLY NOT FIX WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE SCHOOL, (INDISCERNIBLE) THE SWALES AND HOW TO MAINTAIN (INDISCERNIBLE). (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE) WE CAN TRY TO WORK IT OUT WITH THE SCHOOL, BUT I THINK THE MAIN
THING FOR US --. >> SO WE WOULD BE SOLVING OUR ISSUE? BY DOING OPTION THREE?
>> YES. >> THAT WAS MY QUESTION.O WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF THE WAY IT LOOKS, THE SAFETY ISSUES, ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS WE HAVE FROM OUR RESIDENTS? AS FAR AS HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR YOU TO GET YOUR KID, HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR YOU TO DROP OFF YOUR KID -- THOSE ARE THINGS YOU NEED TO TALK TO THE SCHOOL ABOUT.
AND THEY NEED TO GET THAT PRESSURE.
WE NEED TO FIX THE ISSUES WE HAVE WITH OUR CITY.
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WHICH IS HOW IT LOOKS, HOW MUCH MONEY WE ARE SPENDING ON MAINTENANCE, THE DRAINAGE, WHATEVER.OPTION THREE WILL HELP WITH THE STACKING AND HELP WITH THE DROP-OFF AND PICKUP. IT WON'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
ECAUSE, IN MY OPINION, THAT PROBABLY CANNOT BESOLVED .
SO WE NEED TO FIX THE WAY IT LOOKS, THE WAY CARS ARE DOUBLE PARKED, THE SAFETY ISSUE THAT WE HAVE WITH PEOPLE DRIVING RIGHT UP TO THE SIDEWALK, MAKING U-TURNS OVER THE PSIDEWALK. MAKING SURE OUR RESIDENTS ARE PROTECTED.'M NOT 100 PERCENT SURE THAT OPTION THREE IS THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO. OPTION ONE IS A DECENT OPTION.
OR OPTION TWO. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND 350,000 AND NEXT YEAR YOU'RE GOING HAVE TO SPEND ANOTHER 250,000, IT MAKES SENSE TO ME. AT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, YOU END UP SPENDING MORE MONEY. SO THAT'S MY COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT. TALK TO RESIDENTS.
WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD OURSELVES AND TRY TO GET SOME HELP ON THEIR SIDE. BUT I THINK THIS DESERVES A MORE COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION AT STRATEGIC PLANNING.
BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE A DECISION TODAY ON A 1.2 OR
$300,000 ITEM ANYWAY. >> HOPEFULLY BY APRIL WE CAN HAVE FEEDBACK FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD.
I THINK WE ARE FIXING THE AESTHETIC PROBLEM, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AND OTHER PROBLEMS.
>> THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE RELATIVE TO THIS IS DOES IT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE FIRE STATION AND ISSUES WITH THEM GETTING OUT AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY? I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SAFETY ISSUES TO THAT AS WELL. BECAUSE THEY ARE RIGHT THERE ON
THAT CORNER. >> (INDISCERNIBLE).
GETTING OUT. IT AFFECTS (INDISCERNIBLE) NORTH.
>> THAT'S WHY THIS WILL HELP THAT.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE TRAVEL LANES.
WHICH IS WHAT WE DON'T HAVE, WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED.
WE JUST DISCUSSED BEFORE HOW EVERY OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HAS MULTIPLE TRAVEL LANES EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE.
WELL, IF EVERY OTHER SCHOOL HAS ADDITIONAL TRAVEL LANES AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING BY? AND THIS ONE DOESN'T? AND THEY ARE NOT? OBVIOUSLY, THE ISSUE (INDISCERNIBLE) THAT THIS ONE DOESN'T HAVE A TRAVELING.
>> BUT THE OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS HAVE BIG TURNING LANES.
THIS ONE DOESN'T. >> AGAIN, WE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT THE SCHOOL DOES. WE CAN CERTAINLY TRY TO PUSH THEM AND MAKE THEM DO STUFF. BUT WE CAN ONLY CONTROL WHAT THE CITY OF PARKLAND CAN CONTROL.
WE CAN FIX IT. MAKE IT BETTER.
IT'S NOT GOING TO FIX THE DROP-OFF AND PICKUP.
I GET THAT. THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE US COMMUNICATING TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.
BUT WE NEED TO FIX THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE ON PARKSIDE DRIVE.
AND THAT IS, IN MY OPINION, A NEED TOCREATE AN ADDITIONAL
TRAVELING. >> AND FOR THE FIRE STATION (INDISCERNIBLE) (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE) THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T ALLOW TRAVEL FROM THE NORTH ANYMORE.
>> MY CONCERN IS THAT'S ONLY ACCESS POINT FROM (INDISCERNIBLE) AND BEYOND. AND THAT'S THE STATION THAT DOES THOSE CALLS. SO GOD FORBID SOMETHING HAPPENED --
>> (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE). >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT. AND OF COURSE, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE TALK TO THE RESIDENCE (AWAY FROM MICROPHONE). I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THIS THOUGHT PROCESS OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO
DO. >> THEY PROBABLY WON'T BE VERY HAPPY ABOUT IT, BUT THEY WILL PROBABLY BE HAPPY HOW IT LOOKS.
RIGHT NOW, IT'S A MESS. RIGHT NOW AFTER IT RAINS -- IT LOOKS AWFUL.
ISSUES AS FAR AS MULTIPLE CARS BEING THERE WILL BE TWICE A DAY. WHICH ISN'T GREAT, BUT IT'S BETTER --. AUSMAC.
>> CYPRUS K IS ALREADY COMPLAINING ABOUT PEOPLE GOING NORTH AND MAKING A U-TURN AT THEIR ENTRANCE WAY DURING
SCHOOL TIME (INDISCERNIBLE). >> MAYBE WE COULD PUT AROUND ABOUT SOMEWHERE (LAUGHING)? SO I THINK WHAT WE ARE ALL SAYING IS WE LIKE THE SUGGESTIONS YOU HAVE THUS FAR.
IF WE CAN TRY TO COMMUNICATE -- AND WE WILL HELP ON OUR SIDE AS FAR AS TALKING TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND CONTINUE TO REACH OUT
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TO THE PRINCIPAL. IF WE CAN TRY TO INVESTIGATE OTHER OPTIONS -- OTHER SCENARIOS? AND JUST MAKE SURE THE SCHOOL UNDERSTANDS THE ISSUES WE ARE HAVING. WE CAN DO THAT ON OUR PART.WE CAN DO IT ON THE STAFF LEVEL AS WELL.
AND COME APRIL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.ERE GOING TO HAVE TO COME TO A DECISION ABOUT SOME SORT OF FUNDS BEING SPENT, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT IS GOING TO COME FROM.
>> I WOULD PUSH THIS TO THE SCHOOL BOARD -- THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. I WOULD INCLUDE THE PRINCIPLE INVOLVED IN IT, BUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
BECAUSE WHEN THEY DO THEIR EDUCATIONAL PLAN, THEY HAVE TO INVEST MONEY INTO IT. AND THAT'S GOING TO COME BEFORE THEM IN APRIL, MAY, JUNE -- THEY WILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT (INDISCERNIBLE).HIS WAY, THE POTENTIAL CONVERSATION WILL BE THERE. WHETHER OR NOT THEY FUND IT --.
>> THAT'S WHAT'S GREAT. YOU ARE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION TOGETHER THAT WE CAN PRESENT AND GET THE BALL ROLLING ON THAT SIDE. WITH SOME ESTIMATED NUMBER.
SO WE ARE IN A SPOT WHERE WE CAN START SHARING THE INFORMATION WE HAVE. SO COME APRIL -- I DOUBT -- YOU NEVER KNOW. LET'S HAVE SOME FAITH IN DR.
HART RIGHT IN THE SCHOOL BOARD. AND UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE. AND TO VICE MAYOR CUTLER'S POINT, IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE TOO. IT IS LEGITIMATE SAFETY ISSUE.
ECAUSE IF THERE IS AN ISSUE AND WE CAN GET BY, OR TAKE SOME TWO OR THREE MORE MINUTES? SOMEBODY HAD A HEART ATTACK AT THE PARK. IF THEY HAD TAKEN THREE OR FOUR MORE MINUTES, WHO KNOWS WHAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED? WE HAD A HAPPY CEREMONY A FEW WEEKS AGO.
MAYBE THAT OUTCOME IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT? UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY, I THINK WE ARE
IN A PLACE WHERE YOU GUYS HAVE ENOUGH DIRECTION, RIGHT?>> MOTION TO ADJOURN!
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