Apr 29, 2021 City Commission Workshop

[1. Call to Order]

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PLANNING MEETING, CITY OF PARKLAND. >>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS CITY COMMISSION STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP MEETING TO ORDER FOR THE CITY OF PARKLAND, THURSDAY, APRIL 29, 2021, AT 1:00 P.M. PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE.

WANTED TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT TODAY'S MEETING IS INTENDED FOR.

TODAY'S MEETING IS INTENDED TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO START TO PREPARE TO BUDGET SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR OR WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR TODAY IS MORE DEFINITIVE ANSWERS, SO A YES OR NO, WE WANT TO SEE THAT IN THE BUDGET. WHAT WILL HAPPEN FROM THIS MEETING, STAFF WILL GO BACK AND PREPARE A BUDGET. ON JULY 7 THEFY MANAGER WILL DELIVER IT TO US AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC EIGHT WE'LL GO ON BREAK.

I THINK WE'RE ON BREAK FOR WHAT, THREE OR FOUR WEEKS OR WHATEVER. DURING THAT TIME THERE'LL BE A RESIDENT WORKSHOP SO THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RESIDENTS TO COMMENT ON THE BUDGET ON ANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO. THAT RESIDENT WORKSHOP WILL BE HELD ON AUGUST 11TH. THEN ON AUGUST 18TH WE'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMISSION WORKSHOP TO AGAIN DISCUSS THE BUDGET. WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH BACK IN ON ANY OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE MAY HAVE APPROVED OR NOT APPROVED, WHATEVER, SO WE'LL STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO MODIFY THE BUDGET. ON SEPTEMBER 13TH, THAT WILL BE THE FIRST PUBLIC READING OF THE BUDGET SO, AGAIN, RESIDENTS WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR FEEDBACK, BOTH AT THE AUGUST 18TH WORKSHOP AND THE SEPTEMBER 13TH HEARING AND THEN FINANCIAL ON SEPTEMBER 22ND THAT WILL BE THE LAST TIME ANY COMMENTS, ANY CHANGES, ANY ADDITIONS WILL BE ALLOWED ONCE WE APPROVE THE BUDGET ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR WITH FISCAL YEAR 2022. I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS CLEAR WITH THE PROCESS. IT'S ALL YOURS.

[4. Discussion of Vision Statement Alternative]

>> THANK, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. WE'VE GOT THREE THINGS WE WANT TO DO TODAY. WE HAVE PREPARED ALTERNATIVE VISION STATEMENTS.

WHILE GO IN THE PROCESS FOR THAT IN A MOMENT AND REVIEW THE DRAFT A REGION PLAN.

AS THE MAYOR SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF ITEMS IN HERE AND BASICALLY, YES, GO AHEAD PREPARE THE BUDGET ON IT OR NO IF THE PUBLIC THINKS WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE IT. I REALLY JUST NEED PRIMARILY YES, NO, AND WHATEVER DISCUSSION FOLLOWS, BUT TO GET GET INTO DETAILS ON THE BUDGET IN THOSE PROJECTS. LASTLY I WOULD LIKE TO COMPLETE WITH BRIEF COMMENTS ON POLICY LEADERSHIP. WE HAVE A TIME CERTAIN, 4:00, SO IF WE'RE NOT DONE BY THEN WE'LL STOP AND PICK UP. YOU SHOULD OF A A SINGLE SHEET THAT HAS A STATEMENT AND THREE ALTERNATIVES. DO YOU HAVE THAT? THESE CONVERSATIONS CAN BE BECOME PLEX AND TAKE A LONG TIME SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THIS, IF NONE OF THREE PROVIDED ANY GREAT VALUE OVER THE CURRENT ONE. [INDISCERNIBLE] IF YOU FEEL THEY DO IF YOU THINK ONE IS PREFERRED TO STATE WHY AND THEN WE'LL ASK YOU TO CHOOSE YOUR COMP TWO AND ELIMINATE THE OTHER TWO. IF THOSE TOP TWO ARE TIED, I'LL HAVE YOU BOTH. IF ONE OF THE TOP TWO AS THE MOST CHOICES THAT WILL BE YOUR STATEMENT FOR THIS PLAN. ANY COMMENTS ON THIS STATEMENT IS ADEQUATE?

YOU DON'T NEED A MODIFICATION OR YOU DO? >> ANYBODY HAVE A COMMENT ON THE

VISION STATEMENT. >> I'M GOOD WITH THE CURRENT ONE.

>> STILL READING. >> STILL READING? >> I'M ALSO GOOD WITH THE CURRENT ONE. ALTERNATIVE ONE WAS ALSO VERY WELL, VERY GOOD.

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BUT THE CURRENT ONE IS GREAT. >> I LIKE ALTERNATIVE ONE. I THINK IT CAPTURED WHAT OUR SENTIMENTS HAVE BEEN AND NOT TO SAY THE CURRENT ONE IS NOT GOOD BUT I THINK THIS IS MORE ROBUST AND GOING BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL CONVERSATION OF WHAT MAKES US UNIQU AND, YOU KNOW, I REALLY DO LIKE THE WE ARE ONE CITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO I'M SURE WE'LL GET INTO LATER ABOUT BRANDING, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MOST OF US HAVE BEEN ALIGNED WITH AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT MAKES PARKLAND UNIQUE IS DESPITE THE FACT WE ARE DIVERSE AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, DID THE COMMUNITY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES WE'RE STILL ONE CITY SO I DO LIKE

THAT. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. >> I LIKE THE ALTERNATVE ONE AS WELL.

>> I'M GOOD WITH 1 ALSO. COMMISSIONER BRIAR? >> SAME HERE.

>> SAMEYEAR. >> THIS IS ALTERNATIVE ONE FOR ANYONE WATCHING.

THIS WILL BE THE VISION SEGMENT. MOVE ON. HERE'S THE GOALS THAT THE

[5. Review of Draft Strategic Plan]

>> ANYONE WANT TO START WITH THE GOALS? >> I THINK THE GOALS ARE

PERFECTLY LAID OUT. >> THE ONLY THING THAT I MIGHT ADD IS I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO ADD IT OR TO INCLUDE IT IN, SOMETHING THAT'S CURRENTLY EXISTS BUT OPEN THIS IN TRANSPARENCY. I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT WOULD BE AS SEPARATE GOAL OR INCLUDED IN MAINTAIN THE SAFETY COMMUNITY OR.

>> I LIKE THAT IDEA IF YOU PUT IT AT THE END OF STRENGTH THIS THE CITY'S COMMUNITY CHARACTER THROUGH DIVERSIVE AND INCLUSION, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THAT STATEMENT.

>>IC WHERE YOU WERE PERTAINING MORE TO GOVERNMENT. >> YES.

>> [CROSSTALK]. >> GOVERNMENTANCE BEING OPEN AND TRANSPARENT WHICH WE HAVE

DISCUSSED BEFORE. >> IN THAT CASE IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A SEPARATE GOAL.

SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT IN CHARACTER. >> IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ON TO THE CITY'S COMMUNITY CHARACTER I THINK THAT WOULD BE PROCEDURE, YOU KNOW, TO ADD DIVERSIFY AND INCLUSION AND THEN IF WE WANTED TO ADD OPEN AND TRANSPARENT GOVERNANCE I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AS WELL.

ANYBODY ELSE? >> I AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT. >> OBJECTION.

COMMISSIONER BRIAR? >> I THINK THAT GOAL CAN BE INCORPORATED INTO THE FIRST HAVE WHICH IS CONTINUALLY TO BE FINANCIAL SOUND OR OPEN AND TRANSPARENT TO THE CITY

GOVERNMENT. WOULD THAT WORK? >> YES.

>> HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT TO INCLUDE THAT I THINK -- YES. >> OPEN AND TRANSPARENT.

>> OKAY. >> WE'LL ADD THAT IN. >> OKAY.

>> SO ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IN OUR RETREAT WAS WHAT TYPE OF DOLLARS DID WE HAVE AND HOW WOULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH CERTAIN PROBLEM, CORRECT. AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED THERE WAS $10 MILLION AVAILABLE TO PLAN FOR FUTURE PROJECTS. THEN WE HAD ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE $20 MILLION LOAN WHICH WE'LL GET INTO IN A LITTLE WHILE SO WE HAVE A TOTAL ARE 30 MILLION SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS BOX RECOUNT BELOW STAFF WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE TIMING BECAUSE THAT'S A CRITICAL FACTOR FOR US. IT'S WONDERFUL TO HAVE ALL OF THESE WONDERFUL PROJECTS BUT CAN WE ACHIEVE TO DO THEM WITHIN A SET TIME FRAME? SO WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IN YOUR FIRST COLUMN IS THE TRUE ADDITIONAL OPERATING COSTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING TO THE

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THE FIRE ASSESSMENT -- WE'LL GO INTO EACH 11 BY ONE. THIS IS THE OVERALL COST.

YOU HAVE YOUR OPERATING BUDGET AT 1.8 OF NEW DESIRED INCREASES. THEN YOU HAVE YOUR TOTAL CAPITAL AT 29.9 MILLION. AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S JUST SPREAD OVER THREE YEARS, 2022, '23 AND '24. SO YOUR PARKS, WE HAD APPROVED LEVEL TWO FOR PINE TRAILS PARK AND LEVEL TWO FOR CARE MARK PARK SO YOU CAN SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO SPREAD OUT OVER THE THREE YEARS.

THE 36-ACRE PARK, WE'RE ESTIMATING 20 MILLION. I WILL BE SO HONEST WITH YOU, WE CAN ESTIMATE 20 MILLION TODAY. WE GO A YEAR FROM NOW IT COULD BE 25 MILLION.

PRICES ARE SKYROCKETING. SO WHATEVER WE DO WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN PRICE WITH SOME OF THE FACTORS BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME UNIQUE THINGS HAPPENING IN OUR CURRENT ECONOMY THAT ARE THROWING OUR NUMBERS OFF SO I WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE BUT WHATEVER WE DO WHEN WE DECIDES TO BILLED WE CAN BUILD WITHIN OUR DOLLAR LIMIT SO THAT'S THE OTHER POSITIVE ABOUT IT.

THEN WE HAVE THE LIBERTY PARK PLAYGROUND AND THEN WE HAVE THE PARKING AND ALL THAT STUFF SO THIS IS JUST THE OVERVIEW OF THE FINANCIAL PICTURE. FOR CAPITAL, OVER THE THREE YEARS YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND CLOSE TO 30 MILLION. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT EACH ONE BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO THE MAKE SURE OUR STAFF HAS DIRECTION AND YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT TO THIS MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE AS THE MAYOR HAD MENTIONED, WE'LL BE PREPARING A BUDGET WITH ALL OF THESE ITEMS AND WELD LIKE TO PREPARE A BUDGET THAT YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH, BUT IT'S NOT SET IN STONE BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO WHATEVER WE SAY TODAY WE'LL PREPARE AND GET READY FOR YOU, BUT IT'S NOT FINAL UNTIL IT IS AND THAT'S IN SEPTEMBER.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD THAT. THE ACTION ITEMS WOULD BE TAIRRAMAR LEVEL TWO PARK MAINTENANCE, DONE OVER THREE YEARS.

>> TO GET INTO A LITTLE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE LEVEL TWO IS, THAT'S BASICALLY TWO

ADDITIONAL TURF FIELDS. >> I WILL HAVE BILL RECAP. >> PERFECT.

>> I'LL DO THAT FOR THAT PARK AND PINE TRAILS PARK. >> RIGHT.

THESE ARE ALSO THESE ITEMS ARE NOT ALSO SET IN STONE AT THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTURE.

THIS IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT FROM LEVEL TWO. >> IF I WILL ADD INTO THAT, SO EVEN IF YOU APPROVE EVERYTHING FOR LEVEL TWO FOR '22, '23, '24 YOU TECHNICALLY ARE ONLY APPROVING FOR THE BUDGET. YOU CANNOT APPROVE SOMETHING FOR FUTURE YEARS UNTIL THAT BUDGET

COMES. >> SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF WE APPROVE TURF FIELD, IF THEY'RE NOT -- IF THEY DON'T HAPPEN IN '22, THAT DOESN'T MEAN TODAY WE'RE SAYING THEY'RE GOING

TO HAVE IT. >> RIGHT. >> WE WOULD HAVE TO AGAI IN '23 MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE APPROVED IN THE BUDGET. SO WE'LL HAVE TO DO A LOT OF THESE ITEMS ARE ADDRESSED NEXT YEAR BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE FROM WHAT I CAN SEE IN '22 MOST OF THESE ITEMS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR LEVEL TWO ARE ACTUALLY IN '23.

>> RIGHT. AND THEN BILL WILL GO OVER THAT SO OUR AUDIENCE IS WELL AWARE OF

WHAT PROJECTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> PERFECT.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. SO REMEMBER LEVEL TWO AND LEVEL ONE. I'LL RUN THROUGH LEVEL ONE AND DIVE INTO LEVEL TWO.

AT TERRAMAR WE'RE GOING TO DO LANDSCAPING DESIGN AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN A NEW SCOREBOARD

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DRINKING ITEMS, NINE OF THEM. FENCE REPLACEMENT ON BASKETBALL, TENNIS COURT AND PRESERVE AREA.

THAT'S LEVEL ONE. LEVEL TWO WOULD BE ARTIFICIAL -- THIS IS IN '23, ARTIFICIAL FIELD DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION ON A AND B, THE TWO FIELDS IN THE BACK, LANDSCAPING ENHANCEMENTS FOLLOWING ALONG WITH THE DESIGN IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND THERE'S THAT 100,000 FOR UNIQUE FEATURES, WHATEVER THAT IS AND THERE'LL BE A LOT OF INPUT ON THAT.

>> OKAY. >> BILL, WE BACKED OUT OF THE TERRAMAR LEVEL TWO THE ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR THE ADDITIONAL, PICKLE COURTS? IS THAT WHAT WE BACKED OUT?

>> THERE WAS TALK AND WE BROUGHT AN ITEM TO CONSTRUCT SIX OF THOSE IN THE CURRENT OLDER PLAYGROUND AREA. THAT WAS NIXED, IF YOU WILL, AND WE TALKED AND WE WENT BACK AND WORKED ON IT, JUST RECONFIGURING THE FOUR EXISTING PICKLEBALL COURTS AT THE TENNIS COURT AREA

TO SIX. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. >> YEP.

>> OKAY. >> GO AHEAD. >> ON THE LEVEL TWO WHICH IS -- WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE BACKED OUT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO. MAYBE NEXT WE'RE WE CAN READDRESS IT BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THAT OPEN FIELD SPACE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THEM IN BUT THAT WOULD BE FOR A

FUTURE BUDGET AND FUTURE DISCUSSION. >> YES, SIR.

>> CORRECT. >> MAY I ASK A QUESTION. CAN YOU READ BACK THE LEVEL ONE? I THINK YOU HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THERE THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ON THE ORIGINAL

ACTION ITEM. >> LANDSCAPING, DESIGN. >> CORRECT.

>> RECONFIGURE THE CURRENT PICKLEBALL AND —. >> THAT'S IN THE REPLACEMENT FUND. I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE SPREADSHEET IN YOUR BOOK, IN THE

REPLACEMENT FUND. >> A LOT OF THAT STUFF THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT [CROSSTALK].

>> LEVEL ONE [CROSSTALK]. >> THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY COME TO US.

THAT'S NOT NEW [CROSSTALK]. >> YES. >> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

WE'RE GOOD WITH LEVEL TWO, I THINK? >> YES.

>> I KNOW I'M GOOD. >> THE EXTRA PICKLEBALL. >> YES.

>> MY CONCERN IS JUST CONTINUING TO MONITOR AND WE'LL DO IT AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TURF FIELDS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY PROVIDE ADDITIONAL USAGE AND AVOID MAINTENANCE COSTS BUT THEY'RE GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE, SO THE QUESTION, WE HAVE TO

MEASURE BE IF IT'S WORTH. >> THAT'S WHAT WE'LL GET TO DO WHEN THE BUDGET PROCESS COMES

THROUGH. >> THE DIRECTION TO THE MANAGER IS TO INCLUDE ITEM NO. 1.

>> YES. SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOOD MORNING GOOD ON THAT ONE.

>> BILL, LEVEL ONE AND LEVEL TWO, IF YOU CAN RUN THROUGH THAT.

>> . >> WE HAD PROGRAMMED THE ARTIFICIAL FIELDS, THE THREE FIELDS THAT ARE PROGRAMMED, ONE AT PINE TRAILS AND TWO AT TERRAMAR.

WE COULD ANDS COST SAVINGS IN THE FABRIC BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY BUY IN BULK FOR THREE RATHER

THAN ONE. >> YES. >> START IT THERE.

>> PINE TRAILS PARK, AGAIN, A DESIGN FIRM, HIRING HIM, LANDSCAPING, ALONG TRAILS END, RESODDING THE LAWN AND AMPA THEATER AND RESODDING THREE AND THEY'VE, NOT THREE, BECAUSE IT'S INCLUDED AS AN TERRITORY INITIAL FIELD, RESTRIPING THE PARKING LOT, CONCRETE ENHANCEMENT IN THE HIGHLY SHADED TRAFFIC AREAS THAT WOULD THAT WOULD CREATE A UNIQUE FEATURE THERE BUT POP AS THEY

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DRINKING FOUNTAINS, BASKETBALL COURTS, RESURFACING, FLOOR GUARD, OUT YEARS BUT THAT COMES INTO PLAY AT LEVEL ONE OF THE LEVEL TWO, ARTIFICIAL FIELD AND DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT ON THREE.

FIELD THREE. RESOD BASEBALL FIELDS A, B AND C, REMODEL THE BATHROOMS AND

LANDSCAPING ALONG PINE ITEM. >> EVERYTHING I GOT EVERYTHING IN THERE.

>> THE BIG ONE ON LEVEL ONE IS THE IRRIGATION ENHANCED IRRIGATION THROUGH THE DESIGN FORM IS IN '23. IF WE WENT THAT ROUTE FOR THE GREAT LAWN THE AMPHITHEATER AND

THE PLAYGROUND AREA WOULD BE PROGRAMMED IN AS WELL. >> AND AGAIN KEEP IN MIND

ANYTHING FOR '23 WILL BECOME BEFORE US AGAIN FOR A NEW VOTE. >> CORRECT.

>> A VOTE TODAY OR NOT THAT WE'RE EVEN VOTING, DIRECTION TODAY DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN

THAT'S DIRECTION WE'LL TAKE IN 2023. >> THE THING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ME BECAUSE AGAIN WE'LL GET INTO -- I'M GOOD WITH LEVEL TWO BUT THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS AND IT SOMETIMES THAT WE START TO PICK AND CHOOSE CHATS CHATS AND WHAT

IS NOT. >> CORRECT. >> IN THAT PROCESS IF YOU PUT DOWN, BECAUSE LIKE BILL MENTIONED THERE CERTAIN CERTAIN THINGS THAT WOULD HAPPEN OR THE INTENT JUST AS GENERAL MAINTENANCE OR AS PART OF THE CAPITAL REPLACEMENT PROJECT

PLAN. >> IF I COULD ASK YOU BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY CREATED THESE BOOKS THAT HAD ALL THE DETAILED INFORMATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT THIS MOMENT.

IF YOU COULD REFER, IF YOU BROUGHT YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING BOOK, THAT TO THE PARK MAINTENANCE ACTION ITEMS AND OPEN UP THE SPREADSHEET YOU'RE GOING TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT BILL HAS JUST RECAPPED AND ALSO GOING THROUGH WHAT IS A REPLACEMENT PLAN ITEM SO WE PLAN FOR THOSE NATURALLY THROUGH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT MAN WHICH I TALKED ABOUT NEEDING AN

ADDITIONAL 400,000. >> AGAIN, FOR TODAY'S EXERCISE WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN OVERALL THEME OF WHAT DIRECTION WE WANT OUR PARKS TO TAKE, WHETHER LEVEL ONE, TWO, OR THREE, AND TODAY WE'RE GIVING YOU DIRECTION TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT IN THE BUDGET.

>> RIGHT. >> SO UNFILL WE ACTUALLY SEE THE BUDGET.

>> ABSOLUTELY AND PHYSICALLY SEE THE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF JUST SAYING, YES, THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE THINK WE WANT TO GO AND THEN WE MIGHT COME BACK AND SAY WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE 1.3 AND IT'S 2 MILLION. NO, WE DON'T WANT TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION. OR IT'S 800,000. WE THOUGHT IT WAS 1.3.

YEAH, LET'S GET MORE OF THEM. SO THOSE ARE OPPORTUNITIES WE'LL HAVE LATER ON IN THE PROCESS.

SO I DON'T THINK TODAY WE NEED TO GET TOO -- AGAIN, WHAT LEVEL WE'RE AT, WHERE WE WANT TO GO, THIS IS THE DIRECTION AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO REFINE AND RETUNE EVERYTHING.

>> AS NANCY WAS ALLUDING TO WE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT IN RUNNING DOWN AND CHASING DOWN THOSE NUMBERS AND WORKING IT THROUGH AND HAVING IT REVERIFIED.

GRANTED, THE BUDGET SHEET THAT SHE HANDED YOU ALL ORIGINALLY THAT'S HAS EVERYTHING ON IT, WE CHANGED THAT BECAUSE WE HAD OTHER EYEBALLS TO LOOK AT IT. THE REPLACEMENT FURNISHED WORK IN THERE, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET STICKER SHOT LATER. YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS AND PROBABLY MAKE SOME SOLID DECISIONS BASED ON THAT BECAUSE THAT SPREADSHEET IS AS ACCURATE AS WE CAN MAKE IT RIGHT NOW BASED ON WE KNOW PRICES ARE ESCALATING DAILY.

>> OKAY. >> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD SO YOU UNDERSTAND OUR INTERNAL PROCESS THE BUDGETS ARE DUE ON FRIDAY SO THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT EVERYTHING TO FINANCE ON FRIDAY SO THE NUMBERS YOU'RE SEEING TODAY ARE GOING TO BE THE NUMBERS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO

SUBMIT FOR THE BUDGET. >> GREAT. COMMISSIONER CUTLER?

>> I HAD RECALLED FROM OUR LAST MEETING THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT SECURITY CAMERAS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE ON THE FACILITY WHERE THE RESTROOMS ARE, THE EXTERNAL AREA BECAUSE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE INDICATED SOME ISSUES WITH THAT AREA.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S PEOPLE TAGGING THE PEOPLE OR WHAT THE SITUATION IS.

I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAY THAT. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THERE OR NOT.

>> I'LL DO IT. WE HEARD YOU AND WE HEARD THE FEEDBACK.

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WE DIDN'T THINK THERE WOULD BE A LOT GAINED IN PUTTING YOU AN ELABORATE SYSTEM SO WE'LL UTILIZE SOMETHING TO DETOUR THE VANDALISM AND I THINK NANCY CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU ONE-ON-ONE.

>> THAT'S FINE [CROSSTALK]. >> AS LONG AS WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE RELATIVE TO THE SECURITY, I'M COOL WITH THAT. ANYBODY ELSE? ANYTHING ON THIS?

I THINK WE'RE GOOD WITH LEVEL TWO FOR PINE TREE, EVERYBODY. >> MOVE FORWARD ON LEVEL TWO.

BEFORE NANCY COMES UP, THESE ARE IN THE ORDER OF YOUR PRIORITY. [INDISCERNIBLE] STARTING WITH THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE HIGHEST PRIORITY TO YOU AND MOVING DOWN.

WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE PLANNER DISCUSSION. >> SO AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT PLANNING AND ASSESS IT AND TWO OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO HIRE A SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND SENIOR PLANNER.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH MELBOURNE AND SHE'S RETIRING.

SO OUR GAME PLAN IS TO BRING ALL OF THE PLANNING ELEMENT BACK IN HOUSE.

WE'LL KEEP MICHELLE ON RETAINER BECAUSE WE NEED SOMEONE TO HELP US WITH THAT TRANSITION.

BUT MICHELLE'S LONG-TERM GOAL IS RETIREMENT SO IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD AND TO ACHIEVE THE RESULTS THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS DESIRED AND ALSO TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPERS, I HIGHLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO MANAGE THE CITY OF WHOING FORWARD. NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW GOES FOR OCTOBER 1 BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE DO OUR BUDGET BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR APPROVAL TO START THE HUNTING FOR THE POSITIONS NOW. THESE ARE GOING TO BE VERY UNIQUE POSITIONS ESPECIALLY THE SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND I WOULD LIKE TO START TO DO THE RECRUITING NOW FOR THAT POSITION BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A COUPLE OF

MONTHS. >> YES. >> AND VISIT MAYOR?

>> SO DO WE HAVE. >> VICE MAYOR? >> DO WE HAVE MONEY IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET? LET'S SAY THREE MONTHS FROM NOW YOU FIND THE BEST PERSON OUT THERE AND JACKIE GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS AND YOU FIND A PERSON, OBVIOUSLY NEGOTIATING WHEN THEY CAN START BUT LET'S SAY THEY START SEPTEMBER 1. DO WE HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET

TO HAVE THAT PERSON START? >> YES, WE DO. >> SO IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION TO? IN OTHER WORDS, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF MAKING THE TRANSITION BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE IT SOONER THAN WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER 1.

>> YES. I JUST NEED YOU ALL TO BE AWARE THAT I MAY NEED TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO MOVE MONEY FROM ONE TO ANOTHER AND I'LL COME BACK TO YOU ALL IF I NEED TO DO THAT.

>> RIGHT. >> BUT ALSO WHENEVER YOU CHANGE YOUR BUDGETED FTE NUMBERS IT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH COMMISSION APPROVAL SO YOU'RE GOING TO KIND OF GIVE ME APPROVAL TO MOVE

FORWARD WITH THAT. >> IF I CAN JUST ASK, WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A SUSTAINABLE

DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. >> OBTAIN THE HIGH LEVEL OF EXPECTATION AND TO KEEP US WHERE OUR RESIDENTS WANT US TO BE BUT YET STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH THE GROWTH AND THE PLANNING FOR

THE FUTURE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> I'M GOOD WITH THIS. ANYBODY ELSE? EVERYBODY GOOD?

>> I THINK WE'LL HAVE -- NANCY, I IMAGINE WE'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE SCOPES OF THESE POSITIONS AND THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR?

>> THAT ISN'T SOMETHING WE WOULD GO TO COMMISSION FOR. THAT IS AN INTERNAL OPERATION

THAT WE DON'T GET THE COMMISSION INVOLVED IN. >> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENTIATE BUT WHAT WE HAVE NOW WITH MICHELLE AND HER TEAM AND THESE TWO OTHER THAN BEING ANNOUNCED?

>> THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE THAT I WOULD POINT OUT, COMMISSIONER, IS THAT THE FACT IS THAT WITH MICHELLE, SHE'S CONSIDERED PLANNING AND ZONING AND SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO HIRE A SENIOR PLANNER, TO TAKE ON MORE OF THE TECHNICAL ELEMENT BEHIND PLANNING AND ZONING.

NOW, THIS DEVELOPMENT SUSTAINABLE DDIRECTOR IS GOING E PLANNING AND ZONING, ENGINEERING, AND BUILDING. PLANNING AND ZONING. NOW, AS YOU KNOW AT LEAST HOW I

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[INDISCERNIBLE] I CAN LEAN ON THIS PERSON TO HELP US RESOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH, TO GO OUT THERE IN THE FIELD AND DEAL WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, SO THAT IS MY

MAIN FOCUS IS TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. >> SO IS THIS PERSON ALSO GOING

TO BE IN CHARGE ARE CODE ENFORCEMENT. >> NOT AT THIS TIME, NO.

>> OKAY. BUT THEY WOULD OVERSEE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> SO THEY WOULD HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, TO THE COMMISSIONER'S POINT THEY WOULD HAVE SOME JURISDICTION AS FAR AS CODE ENFORCEMENT IF THEY'RE

OVERSEEING THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. >> AS FAR AS BUILDING ENFORCEMENT BUT CODE FOR CODE VIOLATIONS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES WE'RE HAVING IN THE WEDGE WHERE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT THE BUILDERS NOT MEETING CERTAIN CODES OR NOT -- OR THE BUILDING

PERMITS GETTING APPROVED. >> SO CODE COMPLIANCE. EXACTLY.

WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND THE RESIDENTS ON SOME ISSUES AND CONCERNS AND DIVING IN DEEPER AND THEN HAVING THE AUTHORITY TO GO BACK TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL TO THE SENIOR PLANNER AND TO THE CITY ENGINEER, EMPLOYING ALL THREE DEPARTMENTS TOGETHER TO SOLVE THE ISSUES.

>> BASED ON THE CONTEMPLATED SALARIES DO WE BELIEVE THAT THAT SALARY IS CAPABLE OF OBTAINING

SOMEONE WHO IS SENIOR PERSON IN THAT ROLE? >> LET ME ASK JACKIE TO COME UP BECAUSE SHE WORKED HARD ON PULLING TOGETHER NUMBERS BECAUSE THERE'S AN ACTION ITEM IN YOUR BOOK THAT WILL RECAP THE SALARY PROJECTION THAT WE ESTIMATED FOR THIS POSITION.

NOW, I KNOW I'M ASKING FOR A VERY DIFFICULT POSITION TO FIND AND I AM WELL AWARE OF THAT AND WE'LL NEED TO PAY FOR A GOOD CANDIDATE SO KEEPING IN MIND THAT IS OUR GOAL IS TO HIRE SOMEONE WHO IS CAPABLE OF HANDLING ALL THESE TASKS. SO, JACKIE, COULD YOU PLEASE

TALK ABOUT THAT. >> HI, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND THE LIBRARY. THE SALARY RANGE THAT WILL WE DETERMINE FOR THIS POSITION IS DEFINITELY THE HIGHER END OF DIRECTOR LEVEL SALARY. WE ALSO HAVE IT FUNDED SO THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT BRINGING IN SOMEBODY TO GET THE ENTRY PART OF THAT SALARY RANGE.

WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT SOMEBODY AGAIN WITH SOME EXPERIENCE SO WE WOULD NEED TO PAY THEM SOMEWHERE CLOSER TOWARD MAYBE MIDPOINT OR A LITTLE BIT FURTHER INTO THE SALARY RANGE BUT WE DID TAKE A LOOK RESEARCHING OUR POSITIONS AND THE LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A SALARY RANGE THAT

WOULD BE COMPARABLE FOR OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. >> I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE A DIRECTOR THAT'S OVERSEEING ALL OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF OUR RESIDENT COMPLAINTS ARE COMING FROM SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY CURRENTLY A SHORTFALL SO I THINK THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION SO I DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, WILL -- VICE MAYOR?

>> I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE BUDGET AND THE FINANCING OF IT BUT SOME OF THE COSTS RECOVERY

THAT WE HAVE, CAN THAT BE TIED INTO THE COST OF THAT PERSON? >> AT THIS POINT, YES.

>> SO THAT KIND OF -- MAY KIND OF OFFSET THE INCREASE IN THE SALARY?

>> COMMISSIONER CUTLER? >> I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS AS WELL BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PERSON WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS ALSO GOING TO BE GIVING US INSIGHT INTO FUTURE PLANNING FOR THE CITY LAYOUTS AND THINGS WE'RE EXPECTING MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.

IT'S IMPORTANT WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS WITH US ALL THE TIME WHO GETS A REALLY GOOD SENSE OF THE CITY AND CAN LEAD US INTO OUR FUTURE SO THAT'S A CRITICAL COMPONENT PART FOR ME.

>> I THINK BETWEEN THAT AND THE ADDITION OF THE SENIOR PLANNER GIVES US EXACTLY THAT SO, NO, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CUTLER 100 PERCENT AND I THINK THE STRATEGY IS HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. HOPEFULLY WE'RE ABLE TO FIND THE RIGHT PEOPLE BUT WITH THOSE SALARY FIGURES, I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND

SOMEBODY. >> I WOULD THINK AND I KNOW IT WAS RAIDED AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, BUT SOME POINT WE NEED TO VISIT AND FIGURE OUT WHO THE POINT PERSON NEEDS TO

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UMBRELLA. >> JACKIE, IS THE PLAN TO USE A RECRUITER OR ARE WE DOING IT IN

HOUSE. >> IN HOUSE. >> SO WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH THIS.

>> YES. >> [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> GREAT. THIS IS ADDING THE THIRD PERSON ON THE -- AT STATION 97.

THERE'S NOT AN ENGINE IN THAT LOCATION. THERE IS A RESCUE THERE.

CHECK CHECK WORLD. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU BECAUSE IN OUR DISCUSSIONS IT WAS TO FUND THIS POSITION IN FY '22. AS WE KNOW IT'S NOT ONE POSITION.

IT'S FOUR POSITIONS. AND IT'S AROUND A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.

SO THIS WEEK I HIRED A PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISOR AS PER THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CPSM REPORT. NOW, STARTED ON MONDAY AND HE'S LOOKING THROUGH THINGS AND I ASK ASKED HIM TO DRIVE IN AND ASSESS CALL DATA. SO I WOULD LIKE TO BUT THIS ON HOLD UNTIL WE CAN AFFORD HIM THE PUSH TO ASSESS THOSE T NUMBERS FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT

AND COME BACK TO YOU ALL AND MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION. >> HOW DOES THAT CORRELATE WITH THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD FROM. [INDISCERNIBLE]

REGARDING THESE STAFFING ISSUES? ARE YOU ASKING HIM TO. >> I'M NOT SAYING YES OR NO.

I'M SAYING WE WOULD LIKE TIME TO DO OUR OWN ASSESSMENT ON CALL DATA.

>> HE'D WORK WITH THE CHIEF. >> YES. AS A MATTER OF FACT HE HAS

MEETING SCHEDULED ALREADY. >> OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED TO US IN THAT REPORT TO HAVE THIS, YOU KNOW, POSITION FILLED, YOU KNOW, AND IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE HIM, YOU KNOW, LOOK INTO THAT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HIRING THAT PERSON WHETHER IT'S FIRE OR BSO OR WHATEVER THERE TO LOOK AT THE CONTRACTS I ASSUME AND ALL THOSE

DIFFERENT THINGS. >> HE'S DIVING INTO EVERYTHING SO I'M REALLY EXCITED AND THRILLED TO HAVE HIM. HIS NAME IS PAUL O'CONNELL. HE USED TO BE OUR CAPTAIN HERE BACK IN THE EARLIER 2000S, SO HE WAS WITH BSO FOR WHITE A WHILE AND THEN BECAME THE CAPTAIN IN MILTON MANORS, AND HE RETIRED IN APRIL AND THIS WAS A GOOD TRANSITIONAL TYPE OF POSITION FOR HIM TO EASE INTO RETIREMENT SO WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO GET HIM AND ALL OF THE SKILLS HE

BRINGS. >> DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE TIMING OF HIS ANALYSIS AND

REPORTING BACK WOULD BE? >> I WISH I COULD GIVE YOU THAT BUT HE STARTED ON MONDAY AND HE'S JUST NOW TOUCHING THE SURFACE. I WOULD SAY WE WOULD NEED A GOOD

SIX MONTHS TO ASSESS THE DATA. >> MAYBE WE COULD LEAVE THIS OPEN IN THE BUDGET HAS MAYBE TO RE-EVALUATE AGAIN SIX MONTHS FROM NOW AND IF I COMES BACK AND SAYS, HEY, YOU DEFINITELY NEED ONE FOR, YOU KNOW -- YOU MIGHT NEED ONE OR COULD USE ONE, WHATEVER, WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO IN THE BUDGET.

>> OR WE COULD LOOK AT POTENTIAL MID-YEAR HIRING OR BUDGET FOR MID-YEAR PERSON TO COME IN ONCE THE DATA VALIDATES THAT THE PERSON IS NEEDED AND IF IT DOESN'T VALIDATE IT THEN WE'LL

HAVE SOME SAVINGS. >> THAT'S MY CONCERN. IT'S THE TIMING OF IT, IF WE'RE BEING TOLD BY CHIEF MCNALLY THAT THESE ARE NEEDS THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED, ARE WE ADDRESSING IT IMMEDIATELY OR OKAY TO WAIT THE SIX MONTHS FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT?

>> COMMISSIONER CONNER >> I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS OCCURRED A FEW TIMES. IT'S BEEN RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE FIRE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, TO ADD THESE PEOPLE ON BUT THE NUMBERS DON'T NECESSARILY VALIDATE AN EMERGENCY SCENARIO AND THAT'S WHY IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THIS NEW INDIVIDUAL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY DO NEED TO SPEND A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS ON HIRING PEOPLE AND SINCE SHE'S BROUGHT THAT PERSON ON I WOULD

LIKE TO HEAR FROM THAT PERSON. >> I'LL AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CUTLER ON ALL THOSE POINTS AND,

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HOLE. BUT WE SHOULD AFFORD IT. >> FIRST OF ALL, I'M HAPPY THAT CHIEF O'CONNELLS COME BACK. HE DID A GREAT JOB HERE AND I KNEW HIM AT WILTON MANOR.

THAT I'M VERY HAPPY ABOUT. I TRUST HIS JUDGMENT AND HIS I'LL CALL IT HIS ABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO WORK AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF, AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE PRUDENT FOR US TO LOOK AT IT FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF IT STEMS FROM.

IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE HOW WE ONLY PER RATE FROM A STANDPOINT OF RESCUE AND MAKING SURE THE RESIDENTS ARE SAFE BUT AGAIN BEING PRUDENT. THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE HAVE TO

LOOK AT. >> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE HE'S AWARE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A HOT TOPIC FOR US, THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT ANSWER SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE PUT THIS TO THE FOREFRON -- I'M SURE YOU WOULD DO THAT. I AGREE WITH THAT. THE ONLY THING I WAS LOOKING AT, I KNOW IN OUR BUDGET WAS ONE ITEM FOR THE OPERATING COST OF '22 BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING EXTENDING OUT SO I THINK IT'S BETTER TO BE DILIGENT NOW.

>> RIGHT. ESPECIALLY WITH POLICE AND FIRE EXPENDITURES, THEY'RE SOME OF THE HIGHEST INCREASING EXPENDITURES WE'LL EXPERIENCE SO I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND THE TIME

RESEARCHING IT AND MAKING SURE IT'S THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR US. >> AGREED.

>> IT'S WELL WORT THE MONEY WE SPEND BUT AGAIN HAVING THIS NEW PERSON THAT'S -- THIS IS WHAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO DO. HE'S SUPPOSED TO ADVISE US WHAT DIRECTION THE CITY SHOULD BE TAKING. SO IF WE'RE ALL GOOD, COMMISSIONER?

>> I THINK THAT'S FINER. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE TWO OF THEM, CHIEF O'CONNELL AND MCNALLY ARE COMMUNICATING SO THAT IF THERE'S A PRESSING NEED WE CAN ADDRESS IT.

>> CORRECT. >> I THINK NOW HOPEFULLY WE'LL LEAVE A GAP IN THERE OR WHATEVER

SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE A MOVE MID-BUDGET IF NEEDED. >> YOUR ADVISER WILL DO THAT AND

BE PREPARED FOR A MID-YEAR BUDGET, IF NEEDED? >> THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO FIX THE LEVELLIZE THE PARKING AT THE FARMERS MARKET.

BEAD LIKE TO GET THAT DONE AS SOON AS POS POSSIBLE AND IT'S WELL NEEDED.

THAT'S ONE OF THE CAPITAL ITEMS IN THE BUDGET. THE NEXT THREE ITEMS WE TALKED IN DETAIL. THIS ALL STEMS FROM OUR BRANDING, SO GIVEN THE DIRECTION FROM OUR TWO-DAY RETREAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HIRING A PROFESSIONAL FIRM TO ASSIST US IN BRANDING

AND GETTING OUR COMMUNITY INVOLVED WITH THE RESULTS. >> NANCY, IF YOU DON'T MIND CAN TODD GIVE US A RECAP LIGHT TO THE BRANDERING PLAN? THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC, IF YOU DON'T MIND? I DIDN'T SAY, "LIGHT," SORRY ABOUT THAT WILL.

I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY AND I THINK YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE US A GOOD SYNOPSIS,

YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY QUICKLY. >> I DON'T DO LIGHT VERY WELL BUT I'LL DO MY BEST.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS BRING IN A FIRM THAT DOES BRANDING AND IS GOING TO ANYONE GAUGE THE COMMUNITY IN THE PROCESS SO IN EFFECT THE RESIDENTS WILL BUILD THE BRAND AND THE FIRM WILL FACILITATE THE PROCESS. THAT'S GOING TO BE REACHING OUT TO ENFORCE THE COMMISSION, REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, HAVING GROUP SESSIONS WHERE THERE'LL ASK QUESTIONS AND DO THINGS THAT ELICIT WHAT I TERM, "SIGH LOGICAL DATA DATA" THAT WILL PRODUCE THEMES AND FIND THEIR WAY INTO COLOR SCHEMES, ELEMENTS OF A LOGO, A LOGO DESIGN ULTIMATELY AND THEY'LL BE HEARING WORDS, THAT THEY HEAR OVER AND OVER.

THAT'S THE 30,000-FOOT LEVEL WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO TO GET A FIRM THAT DOES THIS, COME IN

AND TAKE THE COMMUNITY AND US THROUGH THE PROCESS. >> I THINK IT'S GOOD.

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>> WAS THAT, "LIGHT" THERE? >> YOU LEFT OUT THE CRESCENDO. >> I'LL LEAVE THAT TO THE FIRM,

THE CRESCENDO. >> GREAT. ANYBODY?

WE'RE GOOD. >> DIRECTION FOR MOVING FORWARD ON ITEMS SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT.

THE NEXT PAGE. SPECIAL EVENTS THERE IT IS. >> THE SPECIAL EVENTS AS YOU'RE AWARE, SOME GREAT SUGGESTIONS WERE PRESENTED AND SUGGESTED. IF YOU WOULD LIKE A DETAIL OF WHAT CHRISTINE'S PLAN IS FOR '22 AND '23, OBVIOUSLY IN '23 IT'S THE 60TH ANNIVERSARY SO SHE'S

ABLE TO COME UP AND. >> OBVIOUSLY CHRISTINE YOU'RE MORE WELCOME TO COME UP BUT I THINK THE BIG THING WE TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVE GREAT EVENTS AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT.

WE JUST WANT TO TAKE THEM UP A NOTCH AND WE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF EVENTS AND HOW MUCH WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO BE INVOLVED AND HOW MUCH OUR COMMUNITY ENJOYS THE EVENTS.

WE'RE LOOKING TO STEP IT UP A NOTCH AND I THINK SHE HEARD THAT AND IS DOING A GREATER JOB WITH OUR EVENTS SO I DON'T THINK EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT AND WE'RE ALL VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE 60TH YEAR BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NOT MUCH TO TALK ABOUT THAT UNTIL THE PLANNING PROCESS STARTS. BUT WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD AND THE PARKS AND REC INVOLVED SO I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ON THIS ONE SO DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WEREN'T TO ADD? NO.

OKAY. >> GREAT. THE NEXT ITEM IS THE 36-ACRE PARK AND THAT PRIOR SPREADSHEET I HAD SHOWN ON THE SLIDE AND ALSO I HANDED OUT A HARD COPY.

IT SHOWS THE GAME PLAN ON HOW TO SPEND THE WEREN'T MILLION. SO NEXT YEAR WE WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN WITH ALL OF THE FOUNDATION WORK. THAT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT COST AS PART OF THIS PROJECT SO THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STAGES OF THAT PROJECT AND THEN WE GO INTO

>> SO AGAIN WHEN THE BUDGET PROCESS IS FINALIZED WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE VOTING ON THE FOUNDATION PART, NOT THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF WHAT THE PARK WILL LOOK LIKE.

AM I RIGHT? THAT WOULD BE MORE '23 PROCESS? RIGHT?

YEAH, IT WOULD BE BECAUSE NOTHING IS DESIGNED YET. >> RIGHT.

>> SO WHETHER THERE'S THREE OR FOUR, WHATEVER, THE FINAL DESIGN, WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY NEXT YEAR TO HAVE MORE IN-DEPTH DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT THAT [CROSSTALK].

>> WE HAVE THE PARKS MASTER PLAN THAT WE'LL BEGIN WITH SO WE'LL USE THAT AS OUR FOUNDATION.

>> NANCY, DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT BUILT FOR THREE YEARS, WE'RE SOMEWHAT IN A WAY MAKING A DECISION BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FINANCING NOW AND THAT WILL BE FOR THE NEXT THREE

YEARS. >> EXCELLENT POINT. WHEN WE GET TO THOSE SLIDES I'LL

GO OVER THAT. >> GREAT. ANYBODY ELSE?

WE'RE GOOD. >> 11 IS A REPEAT. THAT WAS A MISTAKE, SO PARDON

THAT. >> IT'S IN THERE TWICE. >> IT IS.

>> THEN WE HAVE THE LIBERTY PARK PLAYGROUND AND PARKING AREA. WE PUSHED THAT OUT AN ADDITIONAL YEAR SO WE'RE NOT IN UNDATED THE NEXT YEAR. THIS ONE IS MUCH MORE INVOLVED AS WE ALL TALKED ABOUT. WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING OUR COMMUNITY BY VERY ACTIVE IN THE GAME PLAN FOR THIS PARK BECAUSE IT ALWAYS WAS A COMMUNITY PARK, ONE THAT THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY BUILT SO WE WANT TO TRY TO INCORPORATE THOSE ELEMENTS INTO THE NEW PARK AND ALSO KEEP THAT VERY RUSTIC TREE-TYPE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE CHILDREN AND THEN THE PARKING WILL ALIGN WITH THAT ALSO. POCKET REFUGE, A NATURE AREA THAT IS COMING FROM ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT WOULD LIKE TO IMPLEMENT THIS OVER BY LIBERTY PARK.

THERE WOULD BE NO COST TO THE CITY AND IT WOULD JUST PROVIDE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CHILDREN TO EXPLORE SOME UNIQUE PLANTS WITH BUTTERFLIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

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>> GREAT. >> THEN THE EDUCATIONAL MENTORING OPPORTUNITIES, JACKIE HAD GONE OVER SOME VARIOUS THINGS SHE'D LIKE TO IMPLEMENT, IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO

ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THOSE, SHE'S AVAILABLE. >> ANYBODY WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING ON THAT OR ARE WE GOOD WITH WHAT JACKIE? WE'RE GOOD?

NEXT. >> THE ADA CITY ASSESSMENT PROJECT.

AS YOU KNOW WE'RE WRAPPING UP THAT ASSESSMENT AND WE HAVE TO DO PROJECTS NOW.

WE'RE PROGRAMMING IN $250,000 A YEAR UNTIL THOSE PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED.

SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT JOB I THINK FOR US TO ACCOMPLISH. NEXT ITEM IS THE REDUNDANT FIBER CONNECTION FOR THE CITY DATA CENTERS. AS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WHEN AT & T BROKE THE LINE ON UNIVERSITY DRIVE WE WENT DOWN SO THAT WAS NOT A GOOD FEELING.

WE WENT DOWN AND HAD NO INTERNET AND NO PHONES AND WE HAD PROBLEMS. SO WHAT THIS WILL DO IS IT WILL AFFORD US OUR OWN CABLE CONNECTION THAT WON'T BE LIMITED TO JUST ONE LINE AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, THE SITUATION THAT WE EXPERIENCED YOURSELVES.

>> THAT WERE INTERNALLY. >> CITY HALL. >> THE ENVIRONMENTALLY CARBON NEUTRAL. WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD CHARGING STATIONS TO THE PARKS, ADDITIONAL. THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONSHIPS ARE INVITING OTHERS TO SPEAK TO OUR COMMISSION. WE ALREADY HAVE OUR NEXT FOUR SPEAKERS LINED UP FOR YOU ALL AND ALSO DOING ADDITIONAL OUTREACH INTERNALLY TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND THEN WE ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO PARTICIPATE IN ESTABLISHING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS TOO. THOSE ARE THE ACTION ITEMS AND I BELIEVE ALL THE DATES AND EVERYTHING WAS KIND OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE HEARD FROM THE RETREAT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO PREPARE THE BUDGET WITH THOSE ITEMS. THEN YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE, AS THE MAYOR SAID, THE BUDGET MOVING FORWARD.

NOW, ACTIONS THAT I HEARD THAT I'D LIKE SOME ADDITIONAL CONFIRMATION ON.

I HEARD FOR THE SHOWER AT THE TENNIS SHOWER WAS, NO, DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

>> THAT IS STILL THE CASE. THAT IS CORRECT. YOU DIDN'T HEAR THAT BUT NOT FROM ME. JUST KIDDING.

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE SENIOR EXCEPTION. THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 25,000. I HEARD A NO ON THAT BUT I DID HEAR A YES ON LOW INCOME SENIORS

WITH LONG-TERM RESIDENCY. >> I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT, EVERYONE?

>> YES. >> YES. >> OKAY.

>> THEN ON THE FIRE ASSESSMENT, THIS IS BOB'S FIRE, THE ASSESSED VALUE AND SQUARE FOOTAGE.

I DID HEAR DIRECTION FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND UPDATE OUR CURRENT STUDY AND FOR US TO DO THAT THAT WOULD BE $30,000 BECAUSE WE WOULD UPDATE THE CURRENT METHODOLOGY.

VICE MAYOR IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE HAVE A LOOK AT ANOTHER TYPE OF METHODOLOGY, AN ADDITIONAL 45,000 TO DO THAT STUDY. MY QUESTION TO YOU, DO YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE

STUDIES? >> I PERSONALLY AM READY FOR THE FIRST ONE, NOT THE SECOND.

ANYONE ELSE? >> ON THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT, CAN SOMEBODY, WHOEVER IS DOING THE STUDY, CAN THEY INCORPORATE BOTH BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME NUMBERS?

>> NO. IT'S VERY DIFFERENT. THE OTHER STUDY IS EXTREMELY DIFFERENT AND THE METHODOLOGY IS DIFFERENT SO THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A SEPARATE REPORT FOR THAT.

>> I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THE MATTER BUT I WOULD THINK THAT IF SOMEBODY IS DOING A STUDY ON FIRE ASSESSMENT ON HOW TO ALLOCATE COSTS IS THAT THEY'LL STILL BASICALLY LOOK AT THE

NUMBERS THAT ARE THERE. >> WELL, I THINK WHAT NANCY IS SAYING, CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT WHICH WOULD BE NEEDED IN BOTH SCENARIOS WOULD BE LOOKING ATTIC LARGE HOMES AND WHAT THE ASSESSMENT COSTS, THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS.

THE NEXT ASSESSMENT WOULD BE BASICALLY STRICTLY LOOKING AT EACH PARTICULAR HOME IN

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>> IT'S WAY MORE INVOLVED BECAUSE IT'S ON AN INDIVIDUAL HOME BASIS.

>> I COULD SEE HOW IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PROCESS. >> THERE'S TWO ELEMENTS TO THE TIERED LEVEL. THERE'S THE ONE ON ASSESSED PROPERTIES WHICH TO ME IS BASED UPON HOW MANY PROPERTIES WE HAVE AND WHAT'S THE ASSESSMENT AND BREAKING IT DOWN WHICH IS PART OF OUR INITIAL STUDY ANYWAY BECAUSE WE BASED IT ON CALLS FOR SERVICE SO YOU'RE STILL LOOKING AT WHAT THE OVERALL COST IS FOR FIRE AND THEN FIGURING OUT HOW YOU CAN BREAK THAT DOWN INTO, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT POCKETS, SO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE I UNDERSTAND MAY BE A DIFFERENT ELEMENT BECAUSE YOU ARE LOOKING AT ASSESSED VALUE AND CREATING WHAT THE COST IS IN TOTALITY, BUT DETERMINING THOSE TWO THINGS, AGAIN, MAYBE I'M WRONG, I DON'T SEE WHERE IT WOULD COST AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT. I COULD SEE THE TOTAL COST AT 45,000 BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER ELEMENT BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GET THE COST OF DOING 75,000 FOR BOTH OF THEM.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO EXPLORE HOW YOU GOT THERE. WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT OUT AN RFP

OR. >> YES. I WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A

FORMAL PROCESS. >> I WOULD ASK IS THAT IF WE DID IT, IN OTHER WORDS, REQUESTING TO SAY HERE'S THE ELEMENTS WE WANT TO LOOK AT, CAN SOMEBODY BREAK THAT DOWN WITH THE ADDITIONAL COST, WHAT IT WOULD BE, AND DETERMINES THAT IT'S TOO HIGH WE REJECT IT.

>> BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE 45,000 -- THAT'S NOT REALLY A FIRE ASSESSMENT PROCESS AT ALL.

THAT'S MORE OF A SQUARE FOOTAGE PROPERTY VALUE, YOU KNOW, HOME VALUE PROCESS, SO THAT'S MORE OF ALMOST REAL ESTATE PROPERTY VALUE ASSESSMENT RATHER THAN A FIRE ASSESSMENT BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO YOU HAVE TO DO A FIRE ASSESSMENT AND AFTER THAT'S DONE YOU NEED TO EVALUATE EACH AND EVERY HOME IN PARKLAND FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE. COMMISSIONER BRIAR?

>> IT'S PART AND PARCEL FIGURING OUT HOW WE CHARGE RESIDENTS NOW AND WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE IN COMPARISON TO OTHER CITIES TO DO THAT AND ONE OF THEM MAY BE, A FACTOR, MAY BE VALUE OR SQUARE

FOOTAGE. >> I THINK WHAT WE WERE TOLD BY CHRIS WAS NOT EVERY CITY BUT 99.99 PERCENT OF THE CITIES USE OUR CURRENT ANALYTICS TO HOW THE FIRE ASSESSMENT IS CHARGED.

>> I CAN HAVE CHRIS COME UP AND TALK IN MORE DETAIL ON IT BUT DON'T FORGET TOO THAT WHEN WE'RE PAYING SOMEONE TO COME IN AND DO AN UPDATED FIRE ASSESSMENT, THEY'LL USE THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND THE CURRENT METHODOLOGY REPORT.

THEY'RE STARTING THAT PROCESS WITH THE PRIOR ONE SO WE DON'T HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE TO DO THE ASSESSED VALUE AND SQUARE FOOTAGE, SO THAT'S A COMPLETE METHODOLOGY REDO.

CHRIS? >> NANCY, CAN I ADD ONE THING BEFORE CHRIS JUMPS IN, NOTWITHSTANDING THE WAY WE DO IT NOW, IF WE DO IT THE OTHER WAY THAT BOB IS SUGGESTING THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A YEARLY ASSESSMENT TO DETERMINE WHETHER SOMEBODY IS [CROSSTALK] ON THE

HOME OR EVERY YEAR. >> YES. >> SO IT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO BE PAYING MORE FOR AN EMPLOYEE TO SPEND THE TIME OR SOMEBODY TO DO THOSE ASSESSMENTS VERSUS THE

OTHER WAY WHERE WE'RE DOING IT NOW. >> YES.

>> I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE SAME THING THAT JORDAN IS IN FAVOR OF AT THIS POINT.

>> OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO GET A CONSENSUS ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS

ONE? >> WHY DON'T YOU START. >> I'M IN CONSENSUS WITH COMMISSIONER ISRAEL AND COMMISSIONER CUTLER, I DON'T WANT TO SPEND ADDITIONAL DOLLARS

TO REALLOCATE DOLLARS TO DIFFERENT PLACES. >> RIGHT.

>> I UNDERSTAND HOW IT WOULD COST MORE TO GET YOUR INITIAL ASSESSMENT.

AS COMMISSIONER CUTLER SAID, EVERY YEAR THE NUMBERS CHANGE, THE PROPERTY VALUES UP OR DOWN AND EVERY YEAR THAT WOULD HAVE TO GET RE-EVALUATED, SO THAT SEEMS TO BE AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN AND COST FOR STAFF. I UNDERSTAND YOUR PHILOSOPHY IN TRYING TO MAKE THE TAX MORE FAIR

BUT. >> IT'S BASED UPON NOT ASSESSED VALUE BUT STRUCTURAL VALUE,

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DOLLARS MORE. >> IS THAT SOMETHING IN THE RFP PROCESS, ANTHONY?

YOU ARE BETTER EQUIPPED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. >> GET YOU HERE TO THE

MICROPHONE. DON'T BE SCARED. >> YOU'RE HELPING.

HE'S HAPPY TO HEAR WHAT YOU SAY. >> IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU WOULD LIKE THE RFP TO HAVE DIFFERENT

OPTIONS FROM PROVIDER DURING THEIR STUDY, CORRECT? >> IN THE SCOPE OF WORK YOU

WOULD SAY HERE'S WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE TO DO OUR FIRE. >> THAT COULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE

[CROSSTALK]. >> AND TRY TO HAVE AN IDEA [CROSSTALK].

>> IF SOMEBODY WERE TO PUT IT TOGETHER AND SAY TO DO THE FEE IT'S 30,000 AND TO DO ADDITIONAL

WORK [CROSSTALK]. >> SO ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT [CROSSTALK].

>> THE RFP DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING. WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT, RIGHT?

COMMISSIONER BRIAR? >> [CROSSTALK]. >> THE RFP, THE ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS AND WHAT THE COST WOULD BE. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE. >> ONE STEP AT A TIME. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ITEM 23, LIBRARY HOURS. INSTEAD OF SUNDAY SOME ADDITIONAL HOURS BEFORE OR

AFTER. >> RIGHT. >> I THINK JACKIE SAID IT WOULD BE AGAIN INITIAL TO OPEN EARLIER OR LATER. AT LEAST MY OPINION, I'LL RELY ON WHAT JACKIE -- HER INTERACTION WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT GO TO THE LIBRARY, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? NO.

WE'RE GOOD. >> DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THESE? WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR DIRECTION BUT JUST AN UPDATE THAT THE BODY OF WORK IS DOING.

>> CORRECT. THESE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC DIRECTION BUT THIS IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE FUTURE DISCUSSION SO LAND BANKING, SO WE'RE IN THE WORKS OF TRYING TO GET SOME IDEAS OF PRICING ON SOME PARCELS IN THE CITY. IF THAT DOES BECOME AVAILABLE I'LL PRESENT THAT TO YOU.

BUT AT THIS TIME WE DON'T HAVE AVAILABLE FUNDS TO PURCHASE LAND.

THEN THE STORM WATER MASTER PLAN, AS YOU KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY THE LARGE ENDEAVOR OF ASSURING ALL OF THE STORM WATER IS DONE CORRECTLY AND THOSE WILL HAVE CAPITAL COSTS. THAT STUDY IS EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED LATER IN THE YEAR.

PINE TREE ROADS. >> AN UPDATE ON THAT, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ALL AWARE BUT TO MAKE EVERYONE ELSE AWARE WE'VE HAD TWO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS. WE'VE HAD ONE MEDIATION.

THERE'S BEEN ADDITIONAL DIALOGUE WITH THE ATTORNEYS, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE ATTORNEY TO TORN TN

ATTORNEY PHASE. >> THE RANCHES, WE'LL HIT ON THAT WILL SHORTLY.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE GATOR ACRES EDUCATION WITH RECREATION. THOSE ARE STILL ON THE PLATE BUT

NO DIRECTION HAS BEEN GIVEN. >> IF I MAY. >> I THINK THE ONE ISSUE, FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE LAND BANKING STRATEGY, WE'RE STILL ENACTING OUR SEARCH AND GOING OUT AND TRYING TO IDENTIFY PARCELS AVAILABLE AND IF WE NEED A FUNDING ISSUE [CROSSTALK].

>> I'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU, ABSOLUTELY. >> SO WE ARE TAKING ACTION ON

THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE'S [CROSSTALK]. >> THERE'S NO MONEY EARMARKED IS

WHY THERE'S NO DIRECTION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE. >> VICE MAYOR?

>> HAVE WE GOTTEN -- AGAIN, PROBABLY GOING TO ASK EVERY DAY AND PROBABLY I KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, ANY DIRECTION ON THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN OF WHAT WE CAN OR CAN'T DO.

>> THAT'S COMING UP NEXT. >> ALL RIGHT. I'LL ASK IT LATER.

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>> ACTUALLY IT'S THE NEXT SLIDE. >> THERE YOU GO. >> LET ME ASK [CROSSTALK].

>> ONE THING, ONE ISSUE ON THE LAND BANKING THING. YOU ARE STILL ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR LAND BUT DO WE HAVE LIKE A DELINEATION ON THAT, MEANING WE'RE LOOKING FOR FIVE ACRES AND

MORE OR ALL LAND OR HOW? >> THAT WAS THE INITIAL OF SCOPE THAT I STARTED TO REACH OUT TO, WAS FIVE ACRES OR GREATER. THERE'S PROBABLY NUMEROUS ONE OR TWO ACRES THROUGHOUT THE CITY BUT THAT WOULD BE MORE LIKE YOUR VACANT DEVELOPMENT LAND WITHIN AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.

>> BUT THOSE THINGS, AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT. THERE'S SOME PARCELS THAT WILL BE CONNECTING PIECES AND PARCELS THAT ABUT TO HENDRICKS OR OTHER AREAS THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE AND I UNDERSTAND THEY MAY FALL UNDER THE FIVE-ACRE THRESHOLD BUT THEY

MAY BE STRATEGIC TOO THE CITY. >> THANK YOU. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMISSIONER TO START TO DO RESEARCH ON THAT SO I THINK WE MAY BE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME

AREA. >> OKAY. EXCELLENT.

>> VERY GOOD. NOW, THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, WE'RE FORTUNATE AT THIS TIME TO BE A NONENTITLEMENT CITY. WE'RE EARMARKED TO RECEIVE $14.3 MILLION FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. NOW, HERE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE DOLLARS CAN BE USED FOR FOUR DIFFERENT PURPOSES.

SO THE FIRST PURPOSE IS TO REPLACE REVENUE THAT HAS BEEN LOST RELATED TO COVID.

WE COULD SUPPLEMENT THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE AS LONG AS WE HAVE PROPER DOCUMENTATION THAT THIS

REVENUE WAS LOST DUE TO COVID. >> WHICH WE DO NOT. >> WE PROBABLY COULD GET A

LITTLE BIT JUSTIFIED. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT. >> OKAY.

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS EXPENDITURES FOR ASSISTING SMALL BUSINESSES AND HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE HARD HIT. SO WITH THE CARES ACT WE IMPLEMENTED OUR OWN CITY INTERNAL, YOU KNOW, SUPPLEMENTAL GRANTS. THIS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO AGAIN. IT WASN'T THE EASIEST PROCESS AND WE GAVE OUTSIDE I THINK AROUND $68,000 BUT IT WAS A LOT OF WORK TO DO THAT BUT THAT'S AVAILABLE.

THEN WE HAVE PREMIUMS PAY FOR ESSENTIAL WORKERS THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN REIMBURSED FOR.

AGAIN, WE HAVE SOME OF THAT BUT IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM WHICH WE ALL NEED CLARIFICATION ON IS INVESTMENTS IN WATER, SEWER AND BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WAITING FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS TO BE SENT OUT FROM THE TREASURY TO PROVIDE DETAILED EXPLANATIONS OF SOME OF THESE. I WAS JUST ON THE TREASURY SITE THIS MORNING. THERE'S BEEN NOTHING PUBLISHED AS OF YET.

NOW, JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND A BIT ABOUT THE RESCUE PLAN, THE STATE MUST DISTRIBUTE THE NONENTITLEMENT GOVERNMENTS WITHIN 30 DAYS. ONCE THEY GET THE FUNDS THEY'RE REQUIRED TO GIVE IT TO US WITHIN 30 DAYS SO THAT'S GOOD. THEN THE AMOUNT THAT IS DISTRIBUTED TO THE NONENTITLEMENT CITIES, IT'S CATCHED NOT TO EXCEEDED -- CAPPED NOT TO EXCEED 75 PERCENT OF OUR BUDGET. WE'RE 14.3, SO WE'RE COVERED THERE. HERE'S THE HARD PART. THE FUNDS MUST BE USED BY 3-POINTERS 31ST OF 2024. WHAT I NEED FROM YOU ALL IS A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION BECAUSE IF THESE MONIES ARE DEPOSITED TO US WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS WHICH COULD BE VERY LIKELY, WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT OUR NEXT PLAN OF ACTION IS. SO WHAT WE HAVE TO ASK US, WHAT DOES THE CITY HAVE SHOVEL READY AND TO POTENTIAL, HYPOTHETICALLY, START WORKING ON TO MEET THE '24 DEADLINE. SO THIS INDIVIDUAL HERE IS GOING TO GO THROUGH A PLAN BUT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU IF YOU HAVE SOME OTHER SUGGESTIONS BUT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE AN ASSUMPTION THAT IF WE HAVE TO GO IN AND DO SOME WATER WORK ANY DAMAGE WE DO TO GET THAT WORK DONE COULD BE COVERED BECAUSE I HOPE THAT WOULD BE THE LOGIC THAT THE TREASURY DECIDES.

>> PERFECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, NANCY. >> BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, I WANT TO ASK ANTHONY, IS THERE NOT SOMETHING AREPUBLICAN TO REQUESTING AN AGO OPINION OR

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THIS STUFF? >> FOR SURE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A FORMAL PROCESS FOR A REQUEST BUT I CAN TELL YOU I'M AWARE THE LEAGUE OF CITIES AND COUNTIES, A NUMBER OF CITIES AND COUNTIES HAVE MADE THAT REQUEST THOUGH FAT INTERPRETATION SO I THINK -- I'M PRESUMING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND TREASURY IS WORKING ON IT AND YOU'LL HAVE GUIDANCE SOON.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WILL BE BUT SIMILAR TO THE CARES ACT, WHEN THEY PASSED THAT, THERE WAS QUESTIONS AS A RESULT OF LANGUAGE AND THEY WENT ON AND ISSUED GUIDANCE.

AND WHAT NANCY PUT ON THE JEAN IS THE EXPRESSED LANGUAGE FROM THE LEGISLATION AS TO THE AUTHORIZED USE OF THOSE FUNDS BUT OF COURSE THERE'S QUESTIONS THAT ARISE FROM EVEN THE

EXPRESSED LANGUAGE. >> FROM YOUR KNOWLEDGE ARE THERE ANY — DO WE PUSH FORWARD WITH THE PLANS WITH A PRESUMPTION IN PLACE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE IN MIDSTREAM OF A PARTICULAR PLAN AND HAVE TO PULL BACK ON IT BECAUSE THE FUNDING IS NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE.

HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GUIDE US? >> I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGE OF BEING ABLE TO GIVE GUIDANCE WITHOUT THE FORMAL GUIDANCE YET. THE SAFE BET IS TO STICK WITH PROJECTS THAT CLEARLY FALL UNDER THE GUIDELINES AND LANGUAGE THAT WAS UP ON THE SCREEN FOR NOW BUT MAYBE YOU GIVE SOME SUGGESTIONS BASED ON IF THE GUIDANCE OPENS UP, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU DO A WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, A SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, YOU'VE GOT TO GET TO THE WATER LINES EIGHT THE SEWER LINES AND SO THERE'S WORK RELATED TO ROADWAYS AND OTHER THINGS. THAT MAY EACH OF SEEM NATURAL, IF WE HAVE TO DO THE PROJECT, WE'LL RIP UP WORDS. BUT DON'T BANK ON THIS UNTIL WE

GET THE GUIDANCE AND PROCEED ACCORDINGLY. >> CAN WE REACH OUT TO OUR CONGRESSIONAL INDIVIDUALS, THE SENATORS, JUST TO ASK THE QUESTIONS WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL HAVE THE ANSWER BUT AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXPRESSING OUR CONCERNS SO WE HAVE SOMETHING CONNECTED TO US VERSUS RELYING ON THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES AND, YOU KNOW, FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND OTHER THINGS. THIS WAY THEY'RE CONNECTED TO US

AND THEN MAYBE THEY CAN WORK WITH US. >> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA BUT YOU HAVE TO THINK TO DO -- A WATER PROJECT CONSISTS OF MULTIPLE ITEMS SO YOU CAN'T GET THAT SPECIFIC TO SAY YOU CAN ONLY DO A WATER PROJECT. THE WATER PROJECT YOU HAVE TO THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ALL ENCOMPASSING OF WHAT WOULD ENTAIL TO DO A WATER PROJECT OR A SEWER PROJECT OR A BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE, FOR THEM TO PINPOINT THAT SPECIFICALLY AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO PAY FOR THE WATER PORTION, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A GAMBLE. WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT BUT I THINK WHAT THE VICE MAYOR SUGGESTED IS A GOOD IDEA. I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR US, AS OF NOW IT'S DEFINITIVE THAT THE PROJECT MUST BE COMPLETED BY DECEMBER OF '24 AND WE NEED PROJECTS READY TO GO. THAT MEANS THEY NEED TO BE DESIGNED AND HAVE ALL THAT STUFF SO BY YOU GIVING THAT INFORMATION THAT WILL CERTAINLY AT LEAST GIVE US SOME IDEAS OF

WHAT PROJECTS ARE POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'LL WALK US THROUGH THE ONE PROJECT WE HAVE THAT I BELIEVE NOT ONLY FITS WHAT'S BEING DESCRIBED HERE NOW BUT IS THE MOST SHOVEL READY PROJECT WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD.

THAT PROJECT IS THE RANCHES WATER MAIN PROJECT. I'LL EXPLAIN WHY I BELIEVE IT'S THE MOST FEASIBLE PROJECT AT THIS TIME. THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT WE ACTUALLY DESIGNED THE WATER AMERICAN AND PERMITTED IT FOR THE COMMUNITY BACK IN '16 AND '17. THAT PERMITTED PLAN WAS INSTALLATION OF AN EIGHT-INCH INSTALLATION. NOW IT'S ON LONG RANCH ROAD SO WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY IN PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT PROCESS WAS A JOINT VENTURE BETWEEN THE CITY AND NSID. WE HAD AN AGREEMENT BACK THEN AND THEY COST SHARED IN THE DESIGN COSTS WITH THE CITY BUT AS PART OF THAT RESOLUTION — AFTER THE LINES ARE CONSTRUCTED

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JUST FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE COST, WE THOUGHT IT WAS WELL-VETTED BACK THEN.

>> WHAT YEAR WAS THAT? >> THIS WAS IN '16, '17. >> OKAY.

>> BUT BACK THEN WE THOUGHT IT WAS WELL-VETTED BECAUSE NOT ONLY DID WE GET AN ENGINEER ASSESSMENT, THE CONTRACTOR ACTUALLY PUT A PRICE ON THE OVERALL PROJECT FROM A WATER MAIN STANDPOINT SO BACK THEN WE FELT COMFORTABLE WITH THE NUMBERS.

THE WATER, ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION PORTION OF IT, NOT SO CONFIDENT. WHAT WE DID BACK THEN WAS PUBLI& WORKS, THROUGH BILL AND RYAN, BROUGHT IN A FEW CONTRACTORS AND WALKED THE ENTIRE COMMIT WITH THEM AND ASKED TO GIVE A NUMBER TO DO THIS WITHOUT ANY DESIGN PLAN.

THE NUMBERS REPRESENTED FOR ROADWAY, WE DON'T HAVE A HIGH CONFIDENCE LEVEL IN THOSE NUMBERS AT THIS TIME. WHAT I DID IN THE LAST WEEK WAS I WENT AHEAD AND I KIND OF TOOK THE NUMBERS THAT I HAD, MENTIONED BEFORE, AND BASED ON THE RECENT NUMBERS WE'RE SEEING SPECIFICALLY FROM THE UNIVERSITY DRIVE AND OAK CLUB ROUNDABOUT PROJECT, AND THEY HAD AN CHEM TELL OF TWO ONES THEY BIDDED THIS YEAR AND NOT ONLY GAVE ME THEIR ENGINEERING ESTIMATE BUT ALSO BID PRICES THEY GOT FROM CONTRACT IS. SO CRUNCHING THOSE NUMBERS I WAS ABLE TO BRING OUR NUMBERS FORWARD TO '21 AND I'LL RUN THROUGH THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU.

SO THAT $7.3 MILLION PROJECT WE BROUGHT IT TO '21 NUMBERS, ABOUT 18.75 MILLION TO GO AHEAD AND INSTALL THE WATER MAIN AND RECONSTRUCT THE ROADWAY. THAT NUMBER IS BASED UPON BASICALLY A 2.6 MULTIPLIER ON THE PREVIOUS NUMBER AND THAT'S WHERE MY CONFIDENCE LEVEL IS BECAUSE THE PRICES WERE SEEING IN UNIT PRICES, THEY'RE DOUBLING AND IN SOME CASES TRIPLING.

>> 18 TO 20 MILLION. >> 18.75 MILLION FOR A TOTAL PROJECT.

>> AND THE CONNECTION, THAT COST WOULD STILL NEED TO BE. >> GRADE POINT.

THIS PROJECT ONLY INCLUDES THE INSTALLATION OF THE MAIN LINES, WHAT WE CALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE OFF THE WATER MAIN. THE RESIDENT COST FOR CONNECTION TO THOSE LINES IS BORNE BY

RESIDENTS AND IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS COST. >> NSID GETS THOSE FEES?

>> THEY GET A COST FOR THE METERS, YES, AND THE CONNECTION FEES.

>> RELATIVE TO THE PRICING ON THE PROJECT, DOES IT INCLUDE THE WATER DRAINAGE DITCHES ON THE

SITE? >> NO. THIS IS TRULY THE ROADWAY AND

WATER MAIN PROJECT. >> THIS WOULD BE A WATER MAIN PROJECT.

>> THANK YOU. A WATER MAIN PROJECT [CROSSTALK].

>> THIS WOULD BE A WATER [CROSSTALK] THIS WOULD BE A WATER MAIN PROJECT.

>> PERFECT. >> VICE MAYOR? >> HAVE WE HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH NSID ABOUT THIS? THE REASON WHY I SAY IT IS THAT IF WE WERE TO DO THE WHOLE THING, $20 MILLION. LET'S ROUND IT UP. WE ONLY GOT 14.3.

WE'VE GOT TO FIND THE MONEY SOMEWHERE AND NSID HAPPENS TO BE, I'LL CALL THEM VERY CREATIVE TO BE ABLE TO HELP FACILITATE CERTAIN COSTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ALTHOUGH OUR AGREEMENT SAYS WITH THEM FOR CONSTRUCTION MAYBE THEY'D BE WILLING TO HAVE AN ADDENDUM TO THE AGREEMENT TO HELP SUPPORT THIS ISSUE BECAUSE EVENTUALLY THEY'LL BE RECEIVING, YOU KNOW, I'LL CALL IT FUNDING

FROM THOSE THAT DECIDE TO HOOK P. >> THE CUSTOMERS, RIGHT.

>> . >> THIS WILL ADDRESS THE FIRE HYDRANT ISSUES AND SAFETY.

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>> YES. >> NOT THE DRAINERRAGE, BUT HAVING NSID POTENTIALLY BE A

PARTNER IN THIS PROCESS, SEEING THEY'RE GOING TO. >> THE BEAUTY ABOUT IT, THE RESPIRATORY RESOLUTION I REFERENCED, WE DEFINITELY HAVE A PATH TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH NSID. THEY HAVE WITH US IN THE PAST SO WHAT THEY'LL DO FOR US IS THEY'LL HELP US, IF WE SO CHOOSE, THEY'LL CONTINUE ALONG THE PATH OF HELPING WITH ANY PERMITTING DESIGN AND THEY'LL DO PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND FACILITATE THE PROJECT,

PROCUREMENT. >> WHAT WE NEED TO DECIDE TODAY IS THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO TAKE AND THEN THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO WORK WITH NSID, BRING

THE COSTS DOWN AND GET AN RFP AND ALL THAT STUFF. >> TO THAT POINT THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING TO GO.& I'D LIKE TO TAKE A STEP BACK. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAXING OUT THE 14.3 WITH THIS PROJECT AND NOW YOU'RE STILL HAVING A DEFICIT, AND I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO TWO OTHER ISSUES, THE FIRST OF WHICH IS I THINK HELPING OUR COMMUNITY.

THE REASON THIS IS CALLED AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN IS BECAUSE IT'S TRYING TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHO SUFFERED AND, YOU KNOW, ECONOMICALLY DURING THE COVID-19 CRISIS.

I'D LIKE T TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER PLAN THERE IS THERE'S SOME AMOUNT LEFT OVER FOR BOTH HOUSE HOLDING AND SMALL BUSINESSES. I WOULD HATE TO USE ALL OF IT ON SOMETHING WITHOUT ACCOUNTING FOR THAT. THAT'S MY FIRST POINT. THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE. WE WENT OVER ONE OF THE ITEMS OF HAVING REDUNDANT CONNECTION. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED UNDER THIS?

>> YES. >> IF WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT PUTTING THAT IN THE BUDGET I THINK THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY. IT'S ONLY $100,000 MEANING THERE LEAVES A GOOD AMOUNT TO PLAY

AROUND WITH. >> THOSE COSTS THAT YOU MENTIONED ARE FAIRLY LOW SO I DO

NOT SEE ANY REASON WHY WE CAN'T ALSO DO THOSE. >> WHICH COSTS?

>> THE COMMUNITY BUSINESSES AND THE 100,000 FOR THE [CROSSTALK]. >> WHEN WE SAY THE COST, HOW DO

WE KNOW THE NUMBERS? >> WE ALREADY DID IT ONCE FOR THE CARES.

>> THE LAW ITSELF DOESN'T DESCRIBE THE FUNDING? >> I'M SURE THEY'LL BE A

DETAILED LIST OF. >> IS THAT FOR US TO DETERMINE OR WITHIN THE ACTUAL STATUTE.

>> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> OKAY.

LAST TIME WE HAD WHAT, $250,000 I THINK. >> YES.

>> IN CARES MONEY. LAST TIME WE RECEIVED THAT MONEY WE RECEIVED ABOUT $250,000 AND WE WENT OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS, OUR BUSINESSES AND WE WERE ONLY ABLE TO SPEND 68,000 OF THOSE DOLLARS SO, YES, THAT NUMBER LOOKS BIG AND OBVIOUSLY WE SHOULD TRY TO GET AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO THE RESIDENTS, BUT WE DID THAT BEFORE AND WE HAD MONEY LEFT OVER.

>> GREAT. LOOK, AS LONG AS [CROSSTALK]. >> I AGREE.

YOU ARE 100 PERCENT RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DONE THIS

BEFORE, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAD A HARD TIME SPENDING $250,000. >> UNDERSTOOD.

>> VICE MAYOR? >> AGAIN, YOU'LL GET DIRECTION FROM WHEREVER, BUT CAN ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS BE RECUPERATED IN PART OF THIS? FOR EXAMPLE IF WE'RE DOING THE SMALL BUSINESS AND IT TAKES X AMOUNT OF HOURS OR SOMETHING TO DO THAT, CAN THOSE

ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS BE INCLUDED IN THIS? >> I'LL TURN THAT OVER TO THE FINANCE DIRECTOR BECAUSE THE PROCESS WAS VERY LABOR INTENSIVE.

HOWEVER, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY RECOUPED THEIR LABOR. >> WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CARES ACT WE WERE ALLOCAED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY AND WE HAD A HARD TIME SPENDING IT.

ADMINISTRATIVELY WE DID NOT GET A DIMEBACK FOR THE STAFF TIME BACK AND IT WAS VERY HIGH INTENSIVE ON ALL OF OUR PARTS. I WISH WE COULD HAVE GIVEN AWAY A HECK OF A LOT MORE MONEY BUT

WE JUST COULDN'T. >> HAVING BEEN THROUGH IT ONCE IT WILL BE EASY NEXT TIME.

BETTER IDEA, BUT I HAVE SEEN WITH GRANTS, YOU INCLUDE WHAT THE COSTS ARE?

>> SOMETIMES ESPECIALLY WITH FEMA REIMBURSEMENT THERE'S A LITTLE ALLOCATION OF ADMIN

COSTS. IT'S MINIMAL. >> RIGHT.

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>> FOR THOSE TYPES OF REIMBURSEMENTS, YES, THERE'S BEEN SOME ADMINISTERED REIMBURSE

MINUTES BUT FOR CARES ACT. >> CARES ACT, I KNOW. PROCESS PROCESS.

>> THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, AGAIN, WE'RE THE [CROSSTALK]. >> THE POINT, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS BACK OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO TAKE AN

ADVANTAGE [CROSSTALK]. >> COMMISSIONER CUTLER? >> THANK YOU.

IN MAY OF 2021, AND IN ORDER TO EFFECTUATE THE RANCHES PROJECT AND HAVE IT DONE BY '24, THAT SOMETIMES LIKE MARGINALLY VERY DIFFICULT TO DO FROM A TIME STANDPOINT SPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE TO GO OUT FOR OUR FEES AND DO ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT INCLUDING DESIGN AND ALL THE OTHER STAFF. NOTWITHSTANDING THAT YOU THINK THIS IS SHOVEL READY, DO YOU THINK THAT IF WE PUT IN FOR THIS PROJECT THIS IS THE ONE WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET DONE AMONGST

ANYTHING ELSE WE'VE GOT GOING ON IN THE CITY. >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND OF COURSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN ALL THE PROVISIONS OF THE ACT BUT JUST LOOKING AT THE BASIC TERMINOLOGY PROVIDED IN TERMS OF WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE HAVE THAT IS THE FURTHEST ALONG SO THE ENTIRETY OF THE WATER MAIN HAS BEEN DESIGNED AND NOT ONLY DESIGNED BUT HAS BEEN PERMITTED. THAT'S GOOD. GRANTED THERE'S BEEN A PERIOD OF TIME THAT HAS ELAPSED SO WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO GET THE NUMBERS.

IF WE DETERMINE THIS IS THE WAY WE WANT TO MOVE, BASED ON THE AGREEMENT WITH NSID I CAN START TO ENGAGE THE DESIGNER AGAIN THROUGH THAT AGREEMENT TO GET THE PROCESS OFF THE GROUND AND START THE PROCESS FOR DESIGNING OF THE ROADWAY EFFECTIVELY IMMEDIATELY.

>> WHAT I'M ASKING IS YOU'VE LOOKED AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF DESIGN TAKES X AMOUNT OF TIME AND THEN THE PROJECT TAKES X AMOUNT OF TIME AND IF YOU EXTRAPOLATE THAT WILL OUT TO

DECEMBER OF 2024, ARE WE GOING TO HIT OUR MARK? >> RIGHT.

THE FIRST TIME THIS WAS PRESENTED AT THE PLANNING SESSION WE HAD IT BROKEN UP INTO PHASES. BACK THEN WE HAT A 2.5 YEAR SPAN ON IT FOR COMPLETING THE ENTIRE PROJECT. WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE DESIGN UNDERWAY I KNOW WE CAN HIT THE

MARK IN TERMS OF TIMING. >> IN TERMS OF FUNDING AND THE THINGS WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE CITY IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THIS IS THE ONE AND WE NEED TO GET ON IT NOW.

>> TO ELABORATE, THROUGH THAT AGREEMENT IF YOU REMEMBER HOW WE DID RANCH ROAD, NSID HANDLED THE BULK OF THE WORK FOR US SO THEIR DESIGNSERS ARE THE SAME THAT HANDLES THE PROJECT THROUGH CONSTRUCTION. THE ONLY THING THE CITY DOES THERE IS WE'RE A CONTRACT ADMINISTRATOR SO WE'RE PAYING THE BILLS. WE VERIFY THINGS ARE BEING DONE RIGHT FROM A CONSTRUCTION PERSPECTIVE. KEEP IN MIND WE'RE DOING INSPECTIONS BUT FROM A CONTRACT-MAINTENANCE-PROJECT MANAGEMENT THEY'RE THE PROJECT

MANAGERS. >> I THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT YOU GET WITH NSID AND, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS, ARE THERE OTHER DESIGN PEOPLE AVAILABLE. DO THEY HAVE OTHER PROJECTS

THEY'RE GOING ON WITH NOW. >> I'VE ALREADY ENTERED INTO CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.

I JUST WANTED TO GET THROUGH THIS MEETING TO GET A FEEL FOR WHERE THE COMMISSION STANDS.

>> ANYBODY ELSE? VICE MAYOR? >> AS I SAID, THIS COVERS THE 14.3 MILLION. THE ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE, AND, AGAIN, THIS GETS BACK TO MOVING FORWARD FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT THAT GAP IN WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE WITH IT AND, YOU KNOW,

THAT'S. >> I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION NOW OR IF WE SHOULD NOW AS A COMMISSION SO WE ALL UNDERSTAND THERE'LL BE A SHORTFALL ON THIS PROJECT.

>> IF I CAN SUGGEST, AND THIS BEING THURSDAY, AND WE HAVE A MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, THERE'S ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY I DO COME BACK WEDNESDAY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CANCELED THE WORKSHOP OR CAN HAVE ONE OR INCLUDED IN THE MEETING, BUT KIND OF AN UPDATE ON, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATION WITH NSID, WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHAT'S GOING ON AND, YOU KNOW, PROJECTIONS AND THEN MAYBE GIVE

FINAL DIRECTION. >> WE CAN HAVE IT [CROSSTALK]. >> I DON'T KNOW IF HE'LL HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN SIX DAYS, SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE FROM YOU IS JUST TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS TO SEE IF THIS IS THE DESIRED DIRECTION AND WHAT OUR OTHER OPTIONS ARE TO COVERA.

>> AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE HAVE ANY BETTER PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO

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HONESTLY THERE'S A EFFORTFALL SO AT SOME POINT WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION TO SAY ARE THE

RESIDENTS GOING TO BE ASKED TO PICK UP THE REST. >> EVEN TO THAT POINT, MAYBE OUR SECOND MEETING THAT WE HAVE IN MAY, JUST TO COME BACK WITH A WORKSHOP AND WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION, AND MAYBE TO SAY, LOOK, WHAT ARE THE OTHER PROJECTS AND HERE'S THE COST FOR THE BROADBAND AND FOR THIS AND THAT SO WE'RE BACKING OUT WHATEVER IT IS, $500,000.

>> ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN DO THAT. >> THIS WAY, I THINK YOU'RE HEARING DIRECTION, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF GOING IN THIS DIRECTION. WE JUST NEED TO KNOW BEFORE [CROSSTALK].

>> AGAIN, WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT TODAY. WE'RE GIVING YOU DIRECTION TO START MOVING FORWARD AND AT SOME POINT IT'S GOING TO COME BEFORE US TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON IT BUT WE'LL NEED TO START HAVING DISCUSSIONS OF HOW THE SHORTFALL WILL BE MADE UP BUT WE HAVE NO

IDEA WHAT THAT IS GOING TO BE. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WE'RE GETTING AN $18.7 MILLION FOR $4 MILLION BASICALLY. IT SOUNDS LIKE A NO-BRAIN IRTO

ME. >> I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. >> PERFECT.DOING GOOD ON

TIME? >> ALL RIGHT. [BREAK].

>>> . >> SO THE NEXT ITEM THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS IS THE DEBT ISSUANCE. WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING A LOAN TO MOVE FORWARD, SO LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THAT LOAN. IT'S A TAX EXEMPT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT NEED, SERIES 2021. IT'S WITH STERLING NATIONAL BANK AND IT'S NO 20 MILLION AND THE LENGTH OF THE TERM IS MINE .5 YEARS AND THE INTEREST RATE IS 2.55 PERCENT.

NOW, IN THE TERM AGREEMENT IT CLEARLY NOTIFIES THE PROCEEDS SHALL BE USED FOR THE NEW 36-ACRE PARK TO IMPROVE EXISTING PARKS AND OTHER CITY IMPROVEMENTS.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THAT IS A VERY NICE BROAD RANGE. THIS LOAN WILL BE SECURED BY THE HALF CENT SALES TAX AND THE UTILITY SERVICE TAX SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS PLEDGE THOSE REVENUES TO THE NOTE. THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE IS 1.3 MILLION.

WE REACHED OUT TO THE BANK FROM YOUR PRIOR DIRECTION ON HOW MUCH IS A PREPAYMENT PENALTY AND THE FIRST 24 MONTHS IT WOULD BE $550,000. NOW, WITH THIS ISSUANCE, THIS WAS PLANNED AND BUILT INTO OUR FY '21 BUDGET. THERE IS NO ISSUANCE COST BESIDES PETER'S LEGAL BILL. OTHER THAN THAT THERE'S NO ISSUANCE COST.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND I COPIED THE SLIDES FROM OUR PRESENTATION LAST YEAR DURING OUR BUDGET PROCESS IS THE GENERAL FUND THAT WE HAD PLANNED FOR THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT AT 1.3 MILLION AND ALSO ON THE OTHER SLIDE WE WERE GOING TO OBVIOUSLY CONTINUE WITH THE PARKS MASTER PLAN AND AT THAT POINT WE WERE GOING TO TAKE OUT A LOAN FOR 15 MILLION BUT WE STILL HAD PLANNED AT 1.3 IN DEBT SERVICE. SO WITH THE MARKET AND THE INTEREST RATES BEING FAVORABLE WE'RE ABLE TO GET A $20 MILLION LOAN WITH THE 1.3 MILLION.

NOW, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DEBT ISSUANCE ON A GO BOND AND THIS IS THE MAIN REASON WHY I HAVE PETER ON THE LINE. IT IS A VERY COMPLICATED PROCESS.

SO LET ME GO THROUGH SOME OF THE BASICS AND ANY DETAILED QUESTIONS PETER WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP YOU WITH. SO WITH A DEALT ISSUANCE OF A GO BOND THE VOTERS DECIDE IF THEY

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WE WOULD HAVE TO HIRE BOND COUNSEL, FINANCIAL COUNSEL AND UNDERWRITERS.

WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO A RATING AGENCY AND POTENTIALLY ACQUIRE BOND INSURANCE.

THE BONDS GO TO MARKET. YOU DETERMINE THE TYPE OF SALE THAT WILL RESULT IN THE BEST OUTCOME FOR US. THE CITY BECOMES THE SPAN OF A R TERM.

BONDS ARE ABOUT 30 YEARS. THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE A NUMBER OF ONGOING OBLIGATIONS.

THERE'LL BE FILING DISCLOSURE INFORMATION, TRACKING INTEREST ISSUES OFFSET BY TRUE INTEREST COSTS TO AVOID ARBITRAGE, DETAILED INFORMATION ON HOW THE BOND PROCEEDS ARE SPENT AND OF COURSE ALL OF THE TAX COMPLIANCE. THAT'S A REAL QUICK OVERVIEW.

I KNOW PETER WILL BE AVAILABLE BUT LET ME GO THROUGH EVERYTHING AND THEN WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS.

THE DEBT ISSUANCE FOR A VOTER APPROVED DEBT WE LEARNED CAN ALSO BE A LOAN SO IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE A BOND, SO THE VOTERS CAN DECIDE AGAIN ON THE DEBT SERVICE MILLAGE AND IT WILL BE A TAX INCREASE. THE LOAN WOULD CARRY A FIXED OR VARIABLE INTEREST RATE AND THE FUTURE RATES AT THIS POINT WON'T BE KNOWN AND PROBABLY THE MAXIMUM RATE WE COULD GET IF WE'RE LUCKY AGAIN IS A 20-YEAR DURATION. I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO ACQUIRE A 20 YEAR DURATION. SO WHAT DOES THE CITY WANT TO DO IF THE VOTERS FAIL TO PASS THE DEBT OFFERING AND THE PROJECT DOESN'T PROCEED BECAUSE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERY ASPECT OF IT GOING TO VOTE. WE HAVE THEM VACANT LAND THAT REMAINS UNDEVELOPED.

OUR EXISTING PARKS HAVE LIMITED SPACE AS GROWTH CONTINUES. AND ON THE OTHER HAND WE CAN ASK WHAT HAPPENS IN THE VOTERS APPROVE IT SO NOW THEY'RE APPROVING A TAX INCREASE.

WILL THAT LIMIT US ON THAT TO ANY INCREASES IN THE MILLAGE RATE IN THE TEXT COUPLE OF YEARS? MOST LIKELY. SO I WANT YOU TO THINK OF ALL THE DIFFERENT IMPLICATIONS THAT THIS COULD MEAN TO THE CITY AND ITS POTENTIAL FOR THE FUTURE.

HERE I'M LAYING OUT A TIMELINE BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN JUST LOOK LOAN TO LOAN. WE'RE LOOKING AT A TWO-YEAR SPAN BETWEEN THE TWO LOANS.

THE LOAN RIGHT NOW WE CAN GET IN MAY AND BASED ON ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO OBVIOUSLY THE BASIC, THE VOTER REFERENDUM WOULD BE IN '22 IN NOVEMBER AND THIN WHAT HAPPENS IS THEN AROUND MAY OF '23 WE WOULD ACQUIRE THE LOAN. WE WOULD AMEND THE BUDGET TO MAKE THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS. WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE THIS INFORMATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE BY JUNE 1ST SO THEY CAN ADD THE DEBT LEVY TO THE E-TRIM SYSTEM FOR THE JULY 1ST CERTIFICATION. AND THEN NOVEMBER THROUGH APRIL OF 2024 IS WHEN THAT DEBT SERVICE SHOWS UP ON THE TAX BILL AND WE'LL START RECEIVING REVENUE.

SO WE'LL HOLD THE LOAN FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS UNTIL WE RECEIVE REVENUE AND IT'S OVER TIME. THOSE WHO PAY EARLIER GET A DISCOUNT.

THOSE WHO PAY IT AFTER A CERTAIN DATE JUST PAY IT STRAIGHT OUT WITHOUT DISCOUNT.

SO ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT TO EVERYBODY IS THE PARKS AND REC'S MASTER PLAN.

WE HIRED BARRY DUNN IN '19 FOR $90,000. THEY WERE TASKED WITH DEVELOPING THE PHASES FOR A PARKS MASTER PLAN. PHASE ONE, DISCOVERY, TWO, ENGAGEMENT, THREE, ANALYSIS, FOUR, VISIONING, AND THEN OF COURSE THE FINAL PLAN.

NOW ONE OF THEIR MAIN FEATURES IN THEIR PLAN WAS ENGAGEMENT SO THEY CONDUCTED A RANDOM SURVEY OF A NEEDS ASSESSMENT. I CLIPPED THIS ONE CHART OUT OF THEIR STUDY BUT SHOWING WHAT OUR RESIDENTS WANT. SO THEY'RE WANTING THE WALKING PATHS AND SIDEWALKS, NATURAL PARK PRESERVES, LARGE COMMUNITY PARKS AND SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD PARKSAND TRAILS AND PLAYGROUNDS. THOSE ARE YOUR LARGER GROUPINGS OF THE DESIRE FROM THIS NEEDS

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THIS ONE HERE. SORRY. I APOLOGIZE.

THIS IS THE ACTUAL STUDY THAT THEY DID ON AN ANALYSIS FOR RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS BARRY DUNN. THEY SUBMITTED THE CAPITAL PROJECT FOR CONSTRUCTION ON THE RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENT FOR THE 36-ACRE PARK SO THAT WAS ANOTHER OBVIOUSLY GIGANTIC PIECE OF THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, THEIR STUDY RECOMMENDING THIS PARK BASED ON THEIR ANALYSIS.

THEN WE DID OUR CITIZENS SURVEY AND WE ASKED OUR RESIDENTS HOW IMPORTANT ARE THE SERVICES TO YOU. SO THE HIGHEST RATED MARK WE RECEIVED WAS FOR PARKS MAINTENANCE AND THEN OBVIOUSLY CONTRIBUTION TO THE SCHOOLS, SPECIAL EVENTS, AND THEN MAINTENANCE OF FACILITIES. THEN ONE MORE IS, IN THE CITIZENS SURVEY WE ASKED THEM TO PRIORITIZE WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

SO AS YOU SEE, ROADS, DEVELOPMENT, AND PARKS, FIELDS AND RECREATION CAME INTO PLAY.

THOSE ARE THE FOCUSES AND THE DIRECTION ALREADY RECEIVED FROM PRIOR STUDIES FROM CONSULTANTS AND OUR PRIOR PLAN WAS ALWAYS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A LOAN TO MAKE THE PARK HAPPEN.

SO THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU TODAY IS HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED.

NOW, PETER IS ON THE PHONE BECAUSE ONCE, AGAIN, GOING ON A BOND ISSUANCE THERE'S A LOT TO IT. DOING A LOAN IS A MUCH SIMPLER PROCESS BUT THERE'S MANY UNKNOWNS TO THE LOAN. WILL WE BE ABLE TO OBTAIN A 20-YEAR LOAN IN TWO YEARS.

WHAT TYPE OF INTEREST RATES, FIXED OR VARIABLE. NUMEROUS UNKNOWNS.

I CAN GIVE YOU A KNOWN. WHAT IT IS NOW, WHICH IS OUR NEXT MEETING AT 4:00, WOULD BE TO GET VOTER DIRECTION, OUR CONSENSUS ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THE LOAN.

SO ALL OF THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTANDING THE WORKINGS BEHIND THIS DECISION.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE TERM SHEET. I THOUGHT YOU SAID THERE WAS A PREPAYMENT OF 550,000. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TERM SHEET IT HAS A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE.

>> RIGHT. WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THEY NORMALLY DON'T ALLOW UNTIL FIVE.

WE REACHED OUT TO THEM AND ASKED STERLING BANK WHAT THEY WOULD DO, AND THEY SAID 550,000 SO WE

HAVE THAT IN WRITING. >> SO THAT'S AT ANY TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THE LOAN.

>> I HAVE IT IN WRITING FOR 24 MONTHS. >> COMMISSIONER [CROSSTALK].

>> AFTER THAT THERE'S NOTHING? >> I DON'T HAVE THE QUESTION TO THAT ANSWER.

COMMISSIONER CUTLER? >> HERE'S MY FEELING ON THIS. WE TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER THE LAST TIME WE MET ABOUT PUBLIC INPUT AND I LOOKED AT WHAT PUBLIC INPUT WE'VE HAD.

WE'VE GONE OUT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS WITH SURVEYS AND INFORMATION ON WHAT OUR RESIDENTS WANTED AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FROM US. WE HAD ALREADY DETERMINED AS A BODY AND COMMISSION TO GO FORWARD WITH THE LOAN MONEY BECAUSE OF HOW FAVORABLE THE RATES WERE AT THIS POINT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PARK BECAUSE WE REALLY DO NEED MORE FIELDS. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, NEW RESIDENTS COMING IN AS WE DEVELOP. I PERSONALLY AM IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD RELATIVE TO THE LOAN ISSUE RATHER THAN THE BOND ISSUE ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LEVELS BUT I THINK THAT WE CERTAINLY HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND GOTTEN THEIR INPUT. WE HAVE IT WELL-DOCUMENTED AND SO MY FEELING WOULD BE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LOAN AND UTILIZE THAT FOR PURPOSES OF GETTING THIS PARK BUILT.

>> COMMISSIONER BRIER? >> A COUPLE OF THINGS. I'M HAPPY TO HEAR WE'RE ABLE TO

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TWO BUT WE SHOULD. >> I CAN'T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THAT SCHEDULE I

1 PERCENT. YEAR FIVE THERE'S A- >> . >> IF WE VOTE TODAY ON GOING FOR THE LOAN AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PARK, THE PREPAYMENT IS IRRELEVANT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THE OTHER ISSUE, IF WE DO THE LOAN IT SEEMS TO BE WE'RE MAKING ALL THE MONEY NOW AND WE'RE NOT EXPENDING THOSE FUNDS UNTIL 75 PERCENT OF THEM THROUGH THREE

YEARS FROM NOW. >> RIGHT. THAT WAS THE POINT IN AN EARLIER DISCUSSION. THE AMOUNT NEEDED IS 20 MILLION I COULD USE THOSE FUNDS ON CURRENT MAINTENANCE PROJECTS AND GET THAT DONE SO I'M NOT WASTING DOLLARS AND WE'LL HAVE AVAILABLE

CASH TO SUPPLEMENT SOMETHING ELSE IN THE FUTURE FOR THE PARK. >> WE'RE PUTTING THAT MONEY TO

WORK. >> YES. EXACTLY RIGHT.

>> COME I THINK IS -- I'M WITH COMMISSIONER CUTLER. IT'S CLEAR FROM OUR RESIDENTS WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM WITH THE PARKS MASTER PLAN AND THE SURVEY.

IT'S CLEAR OUR RESIDENTS WANT MORE PARK SPACE. NOT ONLY DO THEY WANT MORE PARKS SPACE BUT WE NEED MORE PARK SPACE WHICH THE MARKS MASTER PLAN SHOWED AND CHRISTINE AND BILL EVANS WILL ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT WE DO NEED PARK SPACE AND WE'RE GROWING, SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED PARK SPACE -- WE ALREADY NEED IT SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED IT THAT MUCH MORE IN THE FUTURE, SO I BELIEVE AT THIS RATE OUR RESIDENTS ARE BEHIND US IN GETTING THIS PARK STARTED.

THIS, FOR ME, IS 100 PERCENT AWAY TO GO BECAUSE IF WE GO WITH THE BOND WE'RE GOING TO BE TWO YEARS DOWN THE LINE, SO IT'S GOING TO COST MORE MONEY, SO WE'RE WASTING -- THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO PAY MORE MONEY. THEY'LL HAVE TO PAY ADDITIONAL COST AND THE COSTS WITH THE PARK WILL GO UP AND IT WILL TAKE UP TO THREE YEARS LONGER TO GET THE PARK STARTED WHEN POTENTIALLY WE

COULD START THE PARK NEXT YEAR. >> RIGHT. THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE AT

LEAST A TWO-YEAR LAG. >> VICE MAYOR? >> I GUESS MY QUESTION IS: REGARDING THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND, I'LL CALL IT THE CORE COSTS THAT YOU SAID -- YOU SAID WE'LL HAVE BOND AND OTHER THINGS. WHAT IS THAT COST?

>> A BALLPARK, ABOUT 2 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL LOAN AMOUNT, THE STANDARD.

>> IN ADDITION TO THAT WITH THE BOND, IT BEING TWO YEARS GOWN THE LINER WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE

RATES WILL BE. >> RIGHT. [CROSSTALK].

>> EVEN IF WE GO OUT TOMORROW. >> DEPENDS ON THE TYPE. >> WHAT I WANT TO GET AT TO GO FOR A BOND IT'S GOING TO COST US ANOTHER PURE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

>> CORRECT. >> EVEN IF EVERYTHING BEING EQUAL IT'S GOING TO COST US

$400,000. >> RIGHT. RIGHT.

>> I GUESS I'LL MAKE MY ONLY COMMENT IS THAT IN OUR BUDGET, AND AGAIN, I WANT TO BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE. THIS IS A $20 MILLION LOAN. THIS IS ALMOST 100 PERCENT OF WHAT OUR I'LL CALL IT ASSESSMENTS ARE BASED UPON THE MILLAGE RATE.

NUMBER ONE, IS ANY ANTICIPATION THAT -- BECAUSE YOU SAID TAXES -- IF WE CAN STABILIZE THE MILLAGE RATE I'M EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE OF IT. WE CAN GO BACK TO THE RESIDENTS AND SAY WE'RE WORKING WITHIN OUR MEANS. WE HAD TO TAKE OUT A LOAN BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING IN OUR MEANS AND COSTS WON'T ESCALATE, THERE'S NO INCREASE IN COST.

FROM THAT STANDPOINT, IF APPROVED, AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION IS THAT WE PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE DO HAVE THIS LOAN AND HERE'S WHAT WE'RE USING IT FOR TO GIVE THE RESIDENTS THE CLARITY THAT WE'RE NOT PLAYING A SHELL GAME OR, YOU KNOW, ROBBING FROM PETER TO PAY PAUL. I THINK THAT FOR ME IS MORE OF A CONCERN.

LIKE I SAID, WITH A BOND, THE RESIDENTS WOULD PASS IT ANYWAY BUT IT WILL ESCALATE THE COSTS

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S PRUDENT TO DO FINANCIALLY. >> I CAN SPELL THAT OUT IN

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DETAIL. >> BEARING IN MIND WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY APPROVED THIS LOAN BECAUSE IT'S -- THE DEBT SERVICES IS IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET [CROSSTALK].

>> RIGHT. >> WE'RE TECHNICALLY ALREADY PAYING [CROSSTALK].

>> RESIDENTS KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE USING IT FOR AND ALLOWING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WE COULD HAVE GONE OUT FOR A REFERENDUM AND YOUR COSTS ARE $1 MILLION.

>> RIGHT. >> . >> WE HAVE NOT IN PRIOR YEARS BEEN BOND RATED OR GONE OUT FOR A BORN, IN BUILDING PINE TRAILS PARK, WE HAVE NOT DONE THIS.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. WE BELIEVE THE PHILOSOPHY OF LIVING WITHIN OUR MEANS AND WE DO OUR DARNDEST TO FUND OUR CAPITAL BY THE RESERVE CASH. I'M VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT.

WE'VE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THESE AWESOME LOW INTEREST RATES TO BENEFIT THE CITY BUT, NO, WE'VE

NEVER HAD THAT NEED. WE LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS. >> EVEN THOUGH WE'RE TAKING A LOAN WE'RE STILL LIVING WITHIN OUR MEANS. WE JUST NEED TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER BECAUSE THAT WILL ESSENTIALLY SAVE THE RESIDENTS MONEY.

>> THE WAY THE ECONOMY IS RIGHT NOW, ABSOLUTELY. >> AND CERTAINLY AT THIS RATE,

2.55. COMMISSIONER ISRAEL? >> I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.

BUT OPPORTUNITIES COSTS, THE AMOUNT WE'RE TAKING OUT HERE, AND WE HAD A DISCUSSION PREVIOUSLY IN STRATEGIC PLANNING, FIRST SESSION, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CAPITAL BUDGET REPLENISHES EVERY YEAR. SO THE QUESTION I HAVE, ASSUMING WE TAKE OUT THIS LOAN AND BUILT OUT OVER THREE YEARS, WHAT DO WE DO AS A CITY TO TRY TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR CAPITAL

EXPENDITURES ON A GOING-FORWARD BASIS? >> VARIOUS THINGS.

CONTINUING TO BUDGET CONSERVATIVELY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE BEST STRATEGY THAT WE BELIEVE IN AND THAT WILL ALLOWS YOU TO LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS. WE ARE NOT EXPENDING ALL OF OUR AVAILABLE RESERVES WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS SO HAVING A SIGNIFICANT RESERVE STILL AVAILABLE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVING A SOUND FINANCIAL BANDING.

WE ALSO KEEP 25 PERCENT OF ALL OUR OPERATING COSTS AS A RESERVE.

>> NOTHING IS GOING AWAY FROM THAT. >> ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND WE CAN USE THAT IF AN ECONOMIC DOWN-ATTORNEY CAME.

>> AND WE BUDGET FOR REPLACEMENT COSTS WHICH NOT EVERYBODY DOES. >> NO.

THESE ARE SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS T. SO IF WE WERE IN A BIND OR BINGE, WE COULD NOT FUND A REPLACEMENT PLAN THAT BUDGET CYCLE AND GET AWAY WITH SOME TYPE OF DOWN-TURN SO WE HAVE

NEAT THINGS SET UP THAT WILL PROTECT US. >> THERE'S NO QUESTION, NANCY, THE WAY YOU HANDLE THE BUDGET, YOUR CONSERVATIVE NATURE HAS KEPT PARKLAND IN FINANCIAL GOOD STANDING SO THAT'S MUCH APPRECIATED BY ALL OF US AND CERTAINLY THE RESIDENTS AS WELL

SO THAT'S GOOD STUFF. >> DOES ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE WE HAVE PETER DANE, THE BOND ATTORNEY ON? PETER, I'M SORRY. NOBODY HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT AT LEAST I'M GETTING YOU OFF THE PHONE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY HERE ANY LONGER THAN NEEDED. BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING AVAILABLE AND BEST OF LUCK.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY

TO -- IN QUESTIONS COME UP, FEEL FREE TO ASK ME AND REACH OUT. >> THANK YOU.

>> THE QUESTION ABOUT OBVIOUSLY MANAGING A BUDGET, DO WE GET MONEY FROM THE SEMINOLE COMPACT.

>> WE DO. IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT, ABOUT 20 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS A

YEAR AND THE LEGISLATURE IS LOOKING AT THAT GOING AWAY. >> I TALKED TO OUR LOBBYIST AND HE ASKED MY OPINION ON THE FUNDS AND SINCE IT WAS ONLY $20,000 I WAS NOT CONCERNED.

>> THESE ARE LITTLE POCKETS OF AREAS WHERE WE GET FUNDING FROM. IT MAY NOT BE A LOT INDIVIDUALLY BUT CUMULATIVELY SOMETIMES IT HELPS IN CERTAIN PROJECTS AND THINGS WE'RE DOING.

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>> SO ARE WE ON A CONSENSUS IT SOUNDS LIKE. COMMISSIONER BRIER?

>> WE TALKED ABOUT STRATEGIC PLANNING BUT GRANTS PERHAPS TO OFFSET THE COSTS.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> ANYBODY ELSE? WE'RE ALL GOOD.

>> WONDERFUL. WE'LL GO TO VOTE ON THAT AT 4:00.

THERE'S ONE ITEM. I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON AND THAT WAS OUR ADVISORY BOARDS AND COMMITTEES, SO IN FRONT OF YOU IS A LIST THAT WE'RE PROPOSING OF THE TASKS TO HAVE THE ADVISORY BOARDS WORK ON. OBVIOUSLY THEY'LL WORK ON WHAT THEY CAN IN THE TIME ALLOWED BUT WE FELT THAT THIS LIST WAS PRETTY INCLUSIVE OF EVERYTHING WE HEARD FROM THE COMMISSION BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES.

>> THE ONE THING I SEE IS JUST GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD ON THE

60TH YEAR ANNIVERSARY. >> I WOULD DO IT ON ALL. >> SURE.

AND THAT'S FINE. WE HAD SPOKEN ABOUT IT AT OUR LAST RETREAT ABOUT CROSS TEAM

WORK BETWEEN THEM. >> I THINK WHAT VICE MAYOR SAID IS PERFECT.

THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO HAVE EVERYBODY INVOLVED. >> YES.

>> I DID WANTED TO GET SOME INFORMATION FROM THE CITY OF HOLLYWOOD ON THEIR YOUTH

AMBASSADOR COMPANY. >> OKAY. FOR THE PLANNING AND COMMITTING BOARD, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD HAVE THEM WORKING IN THE BACKGROUND BECAUSE IF AND WHEN THE PLANNER GETS STARTED, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE GROUNDER WORK DONE, TO COMMISSIONER BRIER'S POINT, MAYBE DIG DEEPER WITH THE INFORMATION.

>> DULY NOTED. ITEM 3, REVIEW AVAILABLE LAND FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY.

>> THAT WOULD WORK. >> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER BRIER, ANYTHING?

>> NO. OTHER THAN WE'RE NOT GOING AWAY FROM THE LAND BANKING STRATEGY.

>> VICE MAYOR, ANYTHING? >> NO. I'M GOOD.

>> COMMISSIONER CUTLER? COMMISSIONER ISRAEL? >> ALL RIGHT.

>> THANK YOU. >> YOU MOVED THROUGH A LOT OF STUFF.

WE'RE FINISHING MY PORTION OF WORK WITH YOU AND I WANTED TO CONCLUDE WITH JUST A BRIEF

[6. Policy Leadership of the Strategic Plan]

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOUR CITY. YOU ARE SETTING A CULTURAL FOR NORMAL FOR HOW THEY WORK AND YOU LEAVE A LOT OF LEGACIES HERE. THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE ONES.

I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THESE, AND IF THEY ARE OF VALUE, FINE, AND IF NOT, FINE.

IT'S WHAT I'VE LEARNED OVER TIME. ONE, WHEN THERE IS A -- ON VISION AND DIRECTION, IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THAT. IT WILL REALLY DOES MATTER TO FOLKS A LOT AND WHEN YOU HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN, YOU ANSWER WHY YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING, AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING IT.

IT'S EASIER TO DISAGREE WITH STRATEGIES BUT ONCE YOU ARE ON GOALS, YOU ARE ON GOALS.

THE RESPECT, THE NEXT POINT. YOU DEMONSTRATE THAT. YOU ALL LISTEN TO EACH OTHER, ACTIVELY LISTEN. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT. I ENCOURAGE YOU NEVER TO ASSUME WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE'S MOTIVATION IS. ONE OF THE DOWNSIDES OF THESUNSHINE IS THAT YOU CAN'T — I ENCOURAGE YOU TO NOT PERSONALIZE DISAGREEMENTS.

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HE'S BEEN HERE LIKE 20 YEARS. I VOTED ON BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF ISSUES AND THE COMPLEX ONES I WAS NEVER MORE SURE THAN 53 PERCENT. THERE WAS ANOTHER SIDE AND I COULD SEE THAT SIDE, YOU KNOW, AND ON THIS COMPLEX STUFF THERE IS.

REMEMBER THAT. OBVIOUSLY AVOIDING DEROGATORY LANGUAGE.

ANOTHER ONE IS TO FOSTER CIVIL DISCUSSION. HOW YOU ALL TALK ON THIS DAIS TO EACH OTHER REALLY MATTERS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE PUBLIC THINKS WE TALK.

AND WHEN I WORKED WITH COMMISSIONS WHERE THEY'RE ATTACKS EACH OTHER ON THE DAIS, THEN PEOPLE START ATTACKING BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU DO.

THEY THINK THAT'S HOW YOU DO BUSINESS HERE AND SO JUST THAT MODELING OF BEHAVIOR IS ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO. WITH THE PUBLIC I ENCOURAGE YOU PEOPLE NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR BEHAVIOR AND THEY DON'T NEED TO ACCOUNT YOU OR ATTACK STAFF. THEY NEED TO TALK RESPECTFULLY JUST LIKE YOU DO TO THEM.

SO I ENCOURAGE THAT. DON'T ALLOW STAFF TO BE ATTACKED.

I WAS AT A COMMISSION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND THEY HAD A BRUTAL ATTACK, ATTACKING THE STAFF BRUTALLY AND THE STAFF WAS DEMORALIZED WITH THAT. THE PEOPLE WORK HARD AND TRYING TO DO THEIR BEST AND HAVE SOMEBODY COME UP AND SAY BAD THINGS IS NOT GOOD.

PROVIDING STABILITY, THIS IS A GREAT VALUE OF A STRATEGIC PLAN. SOME DON'T HAVE THAT.

STAFF ARE SCRAMBLING ALL THE TIME TRY TO KEEP UP WITH THAT. YOU CAN'T HAVE CONFLICTING PRIORITIES TO GET EVERYTHING DONE. I ENCOURAGE YOU, EVEN WE YOU'RE ON THE LOSING SIDE OF THE VOTE PUBLICLY THE BODY DECIDES THAT AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND MAKE IT WORK. EVERYBODY KNOWS YOU VOTED AGAINST IT AND YOU DON'T NEED TO REINFORCE THAT BUT SAY WE'LL MAKE THIS WORK AS A BODY. LASTLY YOU TRY TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS WITH THE LONG-TERM INTEREST OF THE CITY. IF THAT'S THE BASIS WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT, IT MAKES IT BETTER FOR EVERYBODY. THE POWER OF THE DAIS I'VE ALLUDED TO THAT EARLIER. HOW YOU BEHAVE YOU HERE IS& EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND REMEMBER YOU ONLY HAVE POWERS OF BODY. INDIVIDUALLY YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE.

[INDISCERNIBLE] THAT AS THE DECISION-MAKING AND IT MODELS AND SHAPES THE IMAGE OF THE COMMUNITY. IF YOU HAVE EVER OBSERVED A COMMUNITY WHERE THE COMMISSION IS FIGHTING A LOT, THAT STARTS TO GET A REPUTATION, AND THE PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, THAT GOES AROUND VERY FAST. I HAD ONE OF MY CLIENTS, THEY WERE CHANGING THEIR CITY MANAGER EVERY YEAR AND THEY'RE ON AN INTERIM NOW BECAUSE THEY HAD A HARD TIME GETTING A QUALITY PERSON. WHO WANTS TO COME WORK IN A PLACE LIKE THAT. CLEARLY FOSTERING PUBLIC TRUST. YOU HAVE A LOT OF MONEY BUT YOUR REAL THING IS PUBLIC TRUST SO EXPLAINING WHY COMMUNICATING REGULARLY AND PROMPTLY, HAVING STAFF BEEN THERE EXPLAINING THE WHYS, SEEKING BALANCED SOLUTIONS AND THEN ADDRESSING DIVERSITY AND CRITICISM.

CRITICISM COMES WITH THIS JOB. IT'S AN UNPAID BENEFIT AND THAT'S WHY I ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT PERSONALIZING IT. FOLKS ARE GOING TO CRITICIZE BUT DON'T PERSONALIZE IT.

I MAY NOT BE SATISFIED WITH THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FINE ME FROM AN OVERGROWN YARD BUT IF YOU'RE FINING EVERYBODY ELSE, OKAY. AND THEN I WAS WORKING WITH THE

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IF YOU MID-A YEAR AS A COUNTY MANAGER YOU WERE REALLY GOOD, AND.

[INDISCERNIBLE] OUT BY THE FBI IN HANDCUFFS. IT WAS A MISERABLE EXPERIENCE.

I'M THERE SUPPOSED TO BE SOLVING THIS STUFF AND I'M HAVING A HARD TIME FIGURING THIS OUT.

I HAD THE FBI INVESTIGATING AND WHAT DID I WALK INTO. FINALLY THEY SAID, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, THERE'S ISSUES THAT GROUPS IN THIS COMMUNITY WANT TO SETTLE MAINLY AROUND DEVELOPMENT. WHEN THAT GETS RESOLVED IT'S GOING TO BE PEACEFUL AND QUIET THERE. SURE ENOUGH, IT WAS RIGHT. THERE IS AGENDAS OUT THERE AND SOMETIMES THEY WANT COMMISSIONS TO. [INDISCERNIBLE] IT CERTAINLY OCCURS IN FLORIDA. BE AWARE OF THE AGENDA AND BE AWARE, YOU HAVE PEOPLE SPEAKING BEFORE YOU AND THAT'S GREAT. YOU WANT THEM TO COME BUT BE AWARE OF WHO IS NOT COMING.

I OFTEN SAY IF YOU WANT TO INFLUENCE CITY HALL, GET TEN PEOPLE TO PUT T-SHIRTS ON THEM AND IT LOOKS LIKE A MASS MOVEMENT BUT IT'S REALLY NOT. THAT'S WHY THE SURVEY AND BROADER OUTREACH, YOU GET A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS DOING.

THERE'S ALWAYS FOLKS WITH SPECIAL INTERESTS AND THEY SHOULD.

IF YOU WANT THEM TO EXPRESS IT, THEY SHOULD COME. TRY TO ENCOURAGE A BROAD LOOK AT THAT AND LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC. THOSE ARE MY LESSONS FROM THE NUMBER OF YEARS OF DOING THIS AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE OF VALUE TO YOU. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU AGAIN. IT'S BEEN GREAT FUN. YOU ARE A GREAT GROUP.

YOU'RE GOING TO DO WONDERFUL THINGS. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I WANT TO CHANG THANK YOU DUG THIS PROCESS. IT'S BEEN HELPFUL IN GUIDING AND

I APPRECIATE THE WORK. >> THANK YOU. >> VICE MAYOR?

>> I'LL ECHO THE SAME SENTIMENTS. IT'S A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU

AND I THINK YOU BRING OUT THE BEST IN ALL OF US. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER CUTLER?

>> I LIKE YOU AWAY YOU USE THE WORD, "Y'ALL" ALL THE TIME. >> I COULD TALK MORE SOUTHERN.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE SOUTHERN THAT CAN GO. HONESTLY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN HERE IN YEARS PAST, AND IT'S BEEN, IN THE HERB WORLD, IT'S A TRUE WORLD.

I ENJOY YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THINGS AND SEEING THIS ADVISE, YOU HAVE A LOT OF STAGE WISDOM

THAT COMES WITH YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND I APPRECIATE YOU. >> THIS IS GREAT HELPING WITH YOU. YOU DEFINITELY BRING A NICE PERSPECTIVE TO US AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY HERE. IT WAS A GREAT STA TEE JIG PLAN AND I THINK WE GOT A LOT DONE AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE BUDGET AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE YEARS TO COME.

I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU GUYS. >> IN CLOSING?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR GUIDANCE BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES NOT HAVING THE DIRECTION PUTS US IN AN AWKWARD SITUATION WANTING TO APPEASE ALL THE REQUESTS BUT HAVING A CONSENSUS AND WORK PLAN AHEAD OF US IS GOING TO MAKE FOR SUCCESS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE FOCUS ON THAT AND GIVING US THE PROPER DIRECTION FOR US TO DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, NANCY, AND ALL OF STAFF. YOU ALWAYS GIVE US MORE THAN ENOUGH INFORMATION THAT WE NEED. THAT MAKES OUR JOB MUCH EASIER, AND WE ALL APPRECIATE THAT.

WE SAY IT ALL THE TIME BUT IT'S TRUE AND THAT'S WHY WE SAY IT. BUT THANK YOU GUYS.

WE'LL ADJOURN UNT

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